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                         UFO's. Alien or Man Made
                                    By
                                 Al Pinto


       First, I  would  like to introduce myself. I am not an airplane
    pilot. I am not an astronaut, physicist, scientist, pscychologist,
    or any other so called "accepted" authority on UFO's. I am however
    an ex-Navy Petty  Officer  with   a  good  amount  of  observation
    experience. I am  also  someone  who  is  very interested  in  the
    phenomenon. I have researched this subject for quite a while
    now, because of  what  it  might  mean to us if the "truth" leaked
    out. Let me tell you that there  is  a  lot more to UFO's than you
    may think.

       The governments of the world have been covering  up  everything
    that has to do with UFO's. Why? It may be they feel that the sheer
    thought of an  "alien"  culture infiltrating our world would cause
    mass hysteria.

       When I was a teenager living in North Bergen, NJ (a town across
    the Hudson River, directly across from NYC) hundreds of people saw
    what appeared to be a flying disk  land  in  what  was then called
    Hudson County Park  (now  named  Braddock  Park  after   James  J.
    Braddock, the boxer).  It  was said to have blown out windows in a
    high rise named the "Stonehenge".  The only thing ever heard about
    it was a small blurb in the local newspaper called the Dispatch.

       I have  been  interested  in  the  phenomenon ever  since.  The
    authorities must have  had  one  hell  of  a time suppressing that
    sighting but, apparently were very succesful.  Again I ask, why?

       Maybe these craft are some secret  government project. There is
    a lot of evidence indicating this which dates back to WWII.  There
    is a report   by   Marshall  Yarrow,  then  the  Reuters   special
    correspondant to Supreme H.Q. in liberated Paris. This article was
    published in the  South  Wales  Argus  on  December  13,  1944. It
    stated,

            "The Germans have produced  a  'secret'  weapon in keeping
             with the  Christmas  season.  The  new device,  which  is
             apparently an air defense weapon, and resembles the glass
             balls that  adorn  Christmas  trees.  They have been seen
             hanging in  the  air  over   German   territory,sometimes
             singly, sometimes  in clusters. They are  colored  silver
             and are appaently transparent."

    Another article regarding  the  German's secret craft was released
    by the Associated  Press in the  New  York  Herald  Tribune  dated
    January 2, 1945. It said:





            "Now, it  seems,  the Nazis have thrown something new into
             the night skies over Germany. It is the weird, mysterious
             'Foo Fighter' balls which  race  alongside  the  wings of
             fighters flying intruder missions over Germany.

             Pilots have been encountering this eerie  eapon  for more
             than a  month  in  their night flights. No one apparently
             knows what this sky weapon  is.  The balls of fire appear
             suddenly and accompany the planes for miles. They seem to
             be radio   controlled  from  the  ground,   so   official
             intelligence reports reveal..."

       I recently  read a paper by Dr. Renato Vesco in which he claims
    that the "Foo Fighter" actually existed.  It was originally called
    the "Feurball" and  that  it  was first built at  an  aeronautical
    establishment in Weiner  Neustatt,  with  the help of the Flugfunk
    Forschungsanstalt of Oberpfaffenhoffen (FFO).  According to Vesco,
    the craft was  a  flat, circular  flying  machine,  powered  by  a
    special turbojet engine, which was used by the Germans  during the
    end of the war.

       Vesco also  claims  that the basic principles of the "Feurball"
    were later applied to a much larger  craft called the "Kugelblitz"
    or Ball Lightning Fighter. This craft, which was  rummored to be a
    revolutionary kind of   supersonic   aircraft   -  was  sucesfully
    conducted over the underground complex  of  Kahla,  in  Thuringia,
    sometime during February of 1945.

       By 1975,  Luftfhardt  International  was stating  that  a  WWII
    Flugkapitan Rudolph Schriever  had died and found among his papers
    were the incomplete notes for a large  flying  saucer, a series of
    rough sketches of the machine, and several newspaper  clippings of
    himself and his alleged flying saucer.  Luftfahrt also pointed out
    that Schriever, up until his death, had been convinced that the
    UFO sightings since  the  end  of  the  war  were  proof  that his
    original ideas had been taken further with succesful results.

       Again I wonder. Is there something  more  to  this?   Where did
    this technology go?

       In May of 1978, at Stand 111 in a scientific exhibition  in the
    Hanover Messe Hall,  some  people were giving out a paper entitled
    the "Brisant".  The  paper  contained   two   seemingly  unrelated
    articles:

          1. The scientific future of the Antartic.
          2. Germany's WWII flying saucers The flying saucer spoke
             of the  information I alredy had presented  to  you.  The
             article also included detailed drawings of a typical WWII
             flying disk,  did  not  mention  the designer's name, and
             claimed that the drawing  was  altered by the West German
             gov't to render it "safe" for publication.

    According to the  article,  at  the end of the war,  some  of  the
    patents for this  craft  disapeared into secret Russian, American,
    and British files.  The remainder  of  the  files and most likely,
    the most important ones, went with the "missing" German scientists
    and S.S. men.  By  1956,  Captain  Ed Ruppelt, then  head  of  the
    U.S.A.F.'s Project Blue Book, wrote,

            "When WWII ended, the Germans had several radical types of




             aircraft and   guided   missles  under  development.  The
             majority of these were  in  the  most preliminary states,
             but they  were  the  only  known  craft that  could  even
             approach the  performances of the objects reported by UFO
             observers."

       The article also states that  in  1938,  Hitler,  anxious for a
    foothold in the Antartic, sent an expediition commanded by Captain
    Alfred Richter to  the  coast  due  south  of  South  Africa.  Two
    seaplanes were launched    from   the   deck   of   the   carrier,
    Schwabenland, daily for three weeks.  They  had orders to fly back
    and forth across the territory which Norwegian explorers had named
    Queen Maud Land.  The  Germans had then made a far  more  thorough
    study of these region, finding vast areas that were free of ice.

       They renamed  the area "Neuschwabenland" and claimed it as part
    of the Third Reich.  German ships and U-boats continued to operate
    in the South Atlantic Ocean, particularly between South Africa and
    the Antartic, throughout WWII. Then,  in  March  1945, just before
    the end of the war, two German U-boats, U-530 and U-977, left from
    a port on the Baltic Sea.

       Alegedly, they  took  with  them members of the  flying  saucer
    research teams, the  last of the most vital saucer components, the
    notes and drawings for the saucer,  and  the  designs for gigantic
    underground complexes and  living  accomodations   based   on  the
    underground factories of Nordhausen in the Harz mountains.

       The U-boats  allegedly unloaded all of this in Antartica. Then,
    two months after the war, they mysteriously surfaced off the coast
    of Argentina where the crews were  handed  over  to  the  American
    authorities, who interrogated them at length and  then  flew  them
    all back to  the United States and questioned the Captains of both
    U-boats for almost a year.

       About a year after their capture,  the  United  States launched
    the biggest operation  ever  known  regarding  the  Antartic.  The
    purpose was to

            "circumnavigate the  16,000  mile  continent  and  map  it
             thoroughly.."

       "Brisant" felt  it  odd that  Operation  Highjump,  as  it  was
    called, under the  command  of Adm. Richard E. Byrd,  included  13
    ships, 2 seaplane  tenders,  an aircraft carrier, 6 two engine R4D
    transports, 6 Martin  PBM  flying   boats,  6  helicopters  and  a
    staggering 4000 men. That expedition became somewhat of a mystery.

       It docked near the German claimed Neuschwabenland  and split up
    into three separate  task  forces.  Some  reports  claim  that the
    mission was an enormous success.  Other,  mainly  foreign, reports
    say that it was a complete disaster: that many of  Byrd's men were
    lost on the  first  day,  that  at least four of his airplanes had
    disappeared, and that while the  expedition  had  gone provisioned
    for 6 to 8 months, they had returned only after a few weeks.

       According to "Brisant" Admiral Byrd told a reporter that it was

            "necessary for  the USA to take defensive  actions  aginst
             enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions"

    and that in case of a new war the USA would be





            "attacked by  fighters  that are able to fly from one pole
             to the other with incredible speed."

       Admiral Byrd  was  then  ordered  to  undergo  a  secret  cross
    examination and the  US withdrew from the Antartic  for  almost  a
    decade.

       Yes, I  have  to  ask  again.  Why are the governments of Earth
    covering up on this UFO phenomenon? It may be because they have no
    choice right now.  They are up against a much more technologically
    advanced society that might very  well  be a product of the Nazi's
    and they can't do a thing about it.

       It then becomes more apparent why they do not  want us to know.
    The masses would  not  only  panic  but  would  quite  probably go
    berserk!  There are still many people  alive today who experienced
    the terror of Nazi Germany. Imagine how they would  feel  if  they
    found out that not only is Naziism still alive but, they command
    power that no government can stop.

       There is  still other information that I've come across which I
    am in the process of researching  at  this  point.  It regards the
    science of Cybornetics.   I became interested in  this because the
    Nazi's did many   "experiments"   with   humans.   Many  of  these
    experiments are deemed  to  be highly  unethical  by  the  medical
    profession. So strange in fact that results of these  tests cannot
    be released or even used for a good purpose because of the way the
    tests were conducted.  More  on this some other time but it may be
    possible that these "little people" are cyborgs. Don't laugh. What
    I have read so far just might support this theory.

       There are a few problems with  all  of  this.  What  about  the
    sightings that took  place before WWII? What about  Lear's  report
    that we are  dealing  with  Aliens, Extraterrestrials from another
    world? Why bother  with  the Space  Shuttle  and  rockets  if  the
    technology exists to build saucers? None of it truly  makes sense.
    That is the problem. We have only questions and not enough answers
    but, somebody knows. Do you?


                                                         Al Pinto

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    Vangard Note

        Mr. Peter Kelly informed us of a book entitled "Genesis" which
    has been "removed" from circulation.

                Written by W. A. Harbinson and published by
                         Dell Publishing Co., Inc.
                         1 Dag Hammarskjold Plaza
                            New York, NY 10017

                copyright 1980 and 1982 by W. A. Harbinson.

                           ISBN : 0-440-12832-3

    Another slightly different  version  of  the book was published in
    Great Britain by Corgi Books.

    It is apparent  from  Mr. Pinto's  paper  that  he  is  using  and




    possibly researching "Genesis"   for   his  primary  source.   The
    Cyborgs mentioned in his article  are  most  notably  mentioned in
    "Genesis" in addition  to the abduction of a tribe  of  Paraguayan
    Indians from the  Ache  tribe who have many of the characteristics
    found in UFO contact cases.

    Through the efforts of Chuck Henderson, Vangard Secretary, we have
    managed to secure a copy of the book.

    The intriguing point is that the  book  is  based on certain facts
    which have come to light since WWII.

    Points of interest as taken from Mr. Harbinsons bibliography (in a
    science fiction novel???) included the following:

      1)  A   highly   technical   but   little-known    book   called
          "Intercettateli Senza Sparare" claims that the "Foo Fighter"
          actually existed,   that   it   was  originally  called  the
          Feurball, and  that  it  was   first   constructed   at  the
          aeronautical establishment at Wiener Neustadt.   Used by the
          Germans during  the  closing  stages  of  the War both as an
          anti-radar device and as a  "psychological"  weapon  against
          Allied pilots.

          Vesco says "The fiery halo around the Feurball perimeter was
          caused by  a  very  rich  fuel  mixture in addition  to  the
          chemical additives  that interrupted the flow of electricity
          by over-ionizing  the atmosphere  in  the  vicinity  of  the
          plane, generally  around  the  wing tips or  tail  surfaces,
          subjecting the  H2S  radar  on  the  plane  to the action of
          powerful electrostatic fields and electromagnetic impulses."

      2)  Robert Ley, Minister for  Labor  in  Nazi  Germany  in April
          1945, excitedly told Albert Speer that German scientists had
          invented a "death ray" (possibly a laser weapon).

          Captain Heinze  Schaeffer,  captain  of the U-977  submarine
          (suspected taking   Hitler   and   and   Martin  Bormann  to
          Patagonia, then on to a secret  Nazi  base in the Antartic),
          stated in his book "U-boat 977" that in April  1945  an S.S.
          associate had  offered  him  a  demonstration of a so-called
          "death ray".  Schaeffer had to decline the offer in order to
          make his  famous  last  voyage   before   the  final  German
          downfall.

    We recommend that you do your best to acquire a copy  of "Genesis"
    to get a  better  handle  on  this  topic.   Try half-price or old
    bookstores.  If you find a stash, we would be interested in buying
    some copies to  freely  distribute   to  various  parties  of  our
    acquaintance who might further expand our collective  knowledge on
    this subject.

               Thank you for you interest and contributions.