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The Following is an interview with Barbra Becker conducted on Nov. 18, 1989
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Geest: I welcome Barb Becker, one of the Founders and Directors of the UFO
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Research Network...My first question: Barb: Why did you start your
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organization?
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Becker: We saw a need for a real investigative organization here in Missouri
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and the St. Louis area in particular.
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Geest: Do you think that there is a lack of "true" investigative work being
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done in the field of UFOlogy?
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Becker: Yes. I think the organizations have sold out. I think that they are
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not doing the field work that needs to be done and are concentrating on
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sensational cases. Instead of collecting data, they seem more intent on
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"getting the BIG one" and writing a book.
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Geest: Understand. How will UFORN differ from say MUFON or UFOSLG?
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Becker: Well for one thing we aren't afraid to leave the area. We want to
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be able to mobilize at any time from anywhere, thus a concentration on getting
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people all over Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois, etc. involved. We are trying to
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build a REAL network of interested people.
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Geest: Does your group plan to publish anykind of newsletter?
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Becker: Eventually, but as it stands right now that is a future activity.
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Geest: To change the subject for a moment, Recently Whitley Strieber's
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movie Communion was realesed to local theaters. What are your comments on
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the entire Strieber "Phenomenon?"
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Becker: As an investigator I look at Strieber as a thorn in my side. It was
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hard enough before Strieber to sort out abduction cases now it's impossible.
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I think people should be aware but he has sensationalized it too much. I
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haven't seen the movie yet...actually I may not see it, I haven't decided yet.
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Geest: I also agree. Within the last 2 or 3 years the entire MJ-12 matter
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keeps comming up over and over again. We have the Lear files, Cooper, Moore,
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O.H. Krill and a host of others stating that the US government is behind a
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giantic coverup of UFO's..Do you have any comments on the MJ-12 material?
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Becker: I think it is highly probable that the U.S. Government is involved
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in a mega cover-up regarding UFOs. I think that the Roswell information, the
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slipped up press releases, the witnesses etc. attest to a cover-up. MJ-12?
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I think that Moore was getting very close to something in his work on the
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Roswell incident and "they" threw him the MJ-12 stuff as a diversion.
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If as he says he was playing both ends against the middle, then it seems
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likely that the info in MJ-12 was verbally fed to him. He then transcribed it
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photographed it, and delivered it to Shandera. He was looking for the "BIG
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ONE" too. Maybe he got a little too big!
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Geest: Interesting. At the recent "MUFON Show Me Conferance" here in the St.
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Louis area, wasn't Moore suppose to be one of the speakers...
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Becker: As far as I know he was. He was billed as a "Mystery Guest", but he
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didn't show up. We had a problem with him in 1985 at the MUFON Symposium held
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here. As I recall we weren't sure if he would show then. The mystery to me
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is why he keeps getting invited to speak.
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Geest: Moore does seem to be somewhat "elusive" after the UFO Coverup program.
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Next question. Recently in the news, The Soviet press reported a landing.
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Since this was carried by one of "the offical" USSR newspapers do you think
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that this means that the USSR government has acknowledged the existance of
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UFO's or this is just a result of the Soviet easing restrictions on their
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publications...Some Western journalists have hinted that since the reforms
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Gorbachev has institued along with that comes the "Tabloids"...in other
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words..What do you think about the Russian report?
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Becker: Well, it seems incredible but the Russians have always been more
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open to the paranormal than the US government. They have been conducting
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parapsychological research on an ongoing basis for years. That they should
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be less inhibited regarding the recent report does not surprise me.
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Unfortunately, I think they have been made a laughing stock by the world
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political community. One thing I find particularily interesting is the
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lack of interest within the UFOlogical community regarding the emblem drawn
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by the young witness on the side of the craft. Anyone familiar with UFOlogy
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should have picked up that the emblem seems to be identical to the emblem
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reported in the UMMO PAPERS by, I believe, Antonio Ribera. For years it
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has been belived that this was a hoax, at best the figment of Ribera's mind
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but how do we account for the same symbol appearing on the ship reported
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seen by the Russian boy???
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Geest: For those readers who are not familiar can you describe the emblem?
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Becker: Maybe I can draw it. ]+[ That's basaically it.
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Geest: With the recent changes within the Eastern Block of nations, do you
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anticapate more information on UFO's from a source which was previsouly very
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closed mouthed....?
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Becker: No. I think they will succumb to US government pressure to keep it
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quiet.
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Geest: If I understand you, you think that the US government will put pressure
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on either the Soviet Union, or various Eastern countries to supress
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information...is that correct?
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Becker: Yes.
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Geest: interesting...Next question, back to UFORN. Does your group plan any
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specific events such as sky watching, or trips to various portions of the US
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such as the 4-corners area to follow up on research that has shown these areas
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for what ever reason seem to have a lot of UFO activity?
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Becker: We will definately have skywatches...they are a nice unifying
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experience. As for doing anything out of state we will have to see how things
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go.
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Geest: Barb: Have you yourself ever seen a UFO?
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Becker: Yes. More than once. I basically got involved through investigating
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the cattle mutilations in Elsberry, Missouri in 1978. At that time I saw what
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I would consider to be a "typical" UFO..."flying saucer".
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Geest: I recall the Elsberry case. If I recall correctly, didn't the local
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authorites pass it off as a "Satinic Cult" of some type. And Secondly, what
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did your investigation turn up?
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Becker: The investigation turned up 8 to 10 mutilations within a half mile
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radius from April to August. I personally saw, as I said before, what I
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consider to be a UFO within that half mile. I watched as others skirted
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treetops, appeared to descend and then rise. I have no idea what they were
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doing or why I was allowed to watch.
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Geest: Recently Dave Rapp a MUFON investigator conducted an investigation on
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cattle Mutations in Missouri, he reported that the incissions were very
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precise, I do not wish to dwell on this subject but for the sack of information
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in your investigation did you find simular markings?
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Becker: I was never lucky enough to get in immediately following a
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mutilation they were always decomposed. So you ask, how do I know they were
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mutilations? Well, I don't. What I have to go on is the testimony of the
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people of Elsberry, the farmers who have been on the land for generations,
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when they tell me that the cattle deaths were "unnatural" I believe them...
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who better to know? Also, Nocturnal Lights were seen in all the areas of the
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mutilations and one Daylight Disc as well...that places the UFOs in the
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vicinity of the mutilations for the specified time period. Circumstantial,
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but sometimes that is all have. I also took slides of the NLs.
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Geest: Next question, this again relates to UFORN. Do you percieve your group
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as a grass roots organization or an organization which will try to unite the
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various groups within the UFO community?
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Becker: I can walk on water...but I can't do that. It would be nice if the
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various groups could forget their differences and begin to work together but I
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don't see us as dedicating any time to the effort. I have been corresponding
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with Fran Ridge, MUFON State Director for Indiana, and we are exchanging
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information. This is what I hope to get from the BBS...all the sighting
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reports Ridge collects from all over the country. If UFORN is affiliated
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with any group it would be CUFOS.
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Geest: Barb: How can one get in contact with your group?
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Becker: Well, they can of course E-Mail us here or they can write:
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UFO Research Network
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P.O. Box 19744
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St. Louis, Mo. 63144
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314-862-2009
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Geest: Barb Becker's network address is 161@3466. I wish to thank Barb for
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taking time out to discuss the various topics we have presented.
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Any comments may be addressed to 1@3466 or 161@3466...
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ng restrictions on their
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publications...Some Western journalists have hinted that since the reform
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