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Well, you have all heard all the stories, here is a set
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of all the text file releases i have been able to find, it isnt
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a mag or anything so dont worry about the interface, just use
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esc to go to the next file. This thing has made alot of people
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rethink their risks, and many people have left or gone down,
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including a few of my good SDA artists. I have taken
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my board down, but not becuase of this, but other reasons
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SDA/PreVueS/DWi Western HQ has moved to another board,
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splatterhouse is gone from what i have heard, and of course
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all the different USA boards, which is a shame.
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But to all that are leaving, I wish you good luck, and that
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you have a good future, and too all that are staying, [including
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me] Hope this is worth this risk. Carding is a much bigger thing
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and of course a federal offense, and i greatly discorage it
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TGR, TNSHB, any others that are going to possibly be on trial, good
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luck, alot of us are behind ya. Mike wish we could of talked to ya
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today when we called, anyways good luck all of you[leaving staying
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etc etc]
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Note: These are just a few things i put together, not any views of mine
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the above stated is just my note to all people, and not a attack on anyone.
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Shadow PhanTom UAFP
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[Unasociated Free Press]
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Well, I am sure you have all heard that I had a small legal problem today,
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and I know how stuff gets blown out of proportion, so I thought I'd
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explain the story myself. Here goes...
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I have carded a few items in the past 3 days, and I have NEVER done this
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before. The Grim Reaper got CBI accounts and placed orders, and I picked
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them up. Well, one of the places Grim ordered from was Paradise Computers,
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they knew it was a bogus order, but told us the package was shipped. Then
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they called the FEDS. Anyhow, the Feds must have been watching the pickup
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spot, then following me around till I met up with Grim to deliver his share
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of the stuff. As soon as we went to make the exchange, the Secret Service,
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FBI, state police, and local police were running at us with bulletproof
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vests and automatic guns. They handcuffed us, separated us, and took each
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of us back to our homes for them to search.
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So I haven't talked to Grim Reaper since I saw him lying next to me on
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the ground being arrested. But here's my story. About 20 agents came
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to my apartment and grabbed all computer equipment without a receipt. So
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we still have 1 modem, and this computer system. Anyhow, they grabbed\
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every piece of paper they could find. Unfortunately, I am a very
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organized person, and had "the who's who in the pirate world" written
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down for my use. So if you ever gave me your real name, number, or
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address, it is now in the hands of the Secret Service and FBI. This
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list was quite large, as it took 2 years to compile.
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These boys did their homework. They knew Enterprize was USA HQ and they
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knew my handle, and they knew I supplied the group with software. They
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weren't going for just anyone here guys, they knew they needed to bust a
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group leader. Well, they did. Got me on carding, pirating, and a ton of
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other legal terms having to do with both of these.
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I was charged with 6 different counts, each holding a 5-30 year prison
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sentence. It doesn't look good for me at all. I'll post a file as
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soon as I get arraigned and let you guys know what is going on.
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But I will say this now, and I MEAN it. I love the groups, the software,
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and the competition. But regardless of what happens to me, I am done
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forever. No more NotSoHumble Babe, no more USA. I hate to do this to
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everyone, but I really don't have a choice. And regardless of who I am
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that got busted, be strong and support what you believe in your hearts:
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piracy. Don't let them win. You guys can all go on without me. Just
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promise me you won't give up and throw in the towel. If anyone wants
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to contact me, you can leave e-mail on Enterprize for me, or call voice
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AT YOUR OWN RISK. They told me they were tapping the phone lines.
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Just got to say a few goodbyes...
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Genesis: man, this stuff is in your blood, don't allow my mistakes to
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mess up something you've loved your whole life. You Gotta Ski!
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Silencer: well, you warned me and I didn't listen. I needed to listen to
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the kid with a knowledgable mind. Sorry, the second time I left
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a group and left you hanging...
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Cool Hand: Joe, you are a really nice person to talk to, and you've got a
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wife and kids. Remember that man, is this stuff worth it?
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Line Noise: Neil, I guess you are one of the happier ones to hear of my
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bust. No THG, no USA. You will rule the world man, but be
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more careful than I was.
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The PieMan: Well, you can quit threatening to turn my board in if you ever
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get caught. My board was officially busted.
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Fab.Furlough: Deep down inside, you are a backstabber. But I still love
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you man...
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And to all I didn't say anything to, doesn't mean I don't care. I hope USA
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will continue to live and prosper. And I will do anything I can(legally)
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to help USA prosper. Goodbye...
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The NotSoHumble Babe
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date : 01-XX-92
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Time : Who knows
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Commenter : [> ANONYMOUS <]
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Of course, that was the version she wanted to play to the general
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public. The NotSoHumble Babe and The Grim Reaper were not just doing this
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for the first time, it had been a routine thing for quite a while.
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(For at least 4 months, when TGR carded his 486/33).
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I guess it would be helpful to take a few steps back, and get a look
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at the whole picture as I know it (From reliable sources, and from personal
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experiance with these two people).
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The NotSoHumble Babe was always known for her good contacts in the
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software field, that is the reason for USA's quick appearence. People
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probably wondered how she did it? I am sure she had many ways, but the one
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tactic she used which gained her the interest of the FBI was telling the
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software Co's she was a distributor. All of them believed this expept for
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one. When this one checked her Employer Identification Number, and found
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it didn't check out with her, they knew something was up. They then had
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her lines monitored, and because of this found out they had more then a
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business fraud on their hands, they found out they had a veteran Credit
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Card abuser, and the leader of a major pirate group. This then in turn
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caused a lot more investigation to take place, and in turn the interest
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of the Secret Service. Since they were being monitored, the SS knew all
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their plans. When TGR had ordered his next shipment of carded goods, the
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SS notified the company of what was going on, and set the trap. Now,
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after several months of investigation on The Grim Reaper (Mike Arnolds)
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and The NotSoHumble Babe, the case was about to come to a close, they
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had everything they needed to convict these two people in court, and whoever
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else they wanted.
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As Amy said in her text above, she and Mike were on the way to meet each
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other to split the goods they had carded. When Amy went to FedEx to pick
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up her shit, and go meet Mike, they were surrounded, and arrested.
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This took place on 1-29-92 at approximately 2:27pm.
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Mike and Amy were taken back to their houses, where all of their equipment
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was looked over. As she said, anything without a receipt was confiscated.
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Then, came the big talks from the Feds - Interrogation.
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This day totally changed Mike's and Amy's life drastically. Things would
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not be the same. And because of this, they were both pretty moved.
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Because of this insecure feeling, and because they are both unable to take
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this shit themselves, and not implicate other people, they decided to
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cooperate 100% with the authorities. Anything they didn't have on paper,
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anything the Feds found unclear, Mike and Amy are/were right there to make
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a clear picture for them. Amy failed to say this, I see. I know first hand,
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The Grim Reaper and The NotSoHumble Babe are going to drag as many as they
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can with them. A loser thing to do, but that's what they are going to do.
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Looks like it's time for us all to either call it quits for a while, or
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be very fucking careful. TGR and TNSHB are both history. They fucked up.
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And now they will pay for their mistakes. But we don't need to be party to
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their bullshit. Delete their accounts from your board, blacklist them,
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lock out newusers, change the system pw, and even go as far as deleting all
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USA affiliates if you feel it is necessary.
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What about USA? What about Genesis and BBS-A-Holic? Well, Genesis was one
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of her partners in crime. Thomas always made it a habit to get something out
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of each of her shipments, so to do this, he had to contribute somehow, nothing
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is free. He helped card about 25% of the shit they got, so I am sure he is a
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nervous mother fucker right now. The Feds are monitoring his local FedEx
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anyway, so if he goes there to pick up his last package, his ass is in jail
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too. He also was a very avid user of the 950-0511 extender, as the Feds are
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aware of, and they might pop him for this, who knows? The board? USA?
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I have heard, but not from Genesis, that USA is now officially dead.
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BBS-A-Holic is down, and no idea when it will come back up.
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But when it does again come online, I will not be a member on that system.
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Thomas is considering turning himself in, if he does this, he said he too will
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cooperate with the Feds, which means if you were his friend yesterday, and
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helped him card shit, or anything, then you might share his cell tomorrow.
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What do you know about The Grim Reaper, The Void, and Vision-x? -
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The Grim Reaper is getting popped for the second time, therefore, I think
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his ass will be in jail a few years, once he is sentenced. The Void?
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I am not sure, but I assume since he had carded all of his computer
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equipment, that it was all confiscated, along with all of his backups.
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Mike being in jail, or not, will never again run a board. As for Vision-x,
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who knows. Warlord has not made a public statement yet, so noone knows yet.
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He does live in 313 as did the other two, so if I were him I would be scared
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shitless, especially since he was supposed to receive a carded 386/25 from
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USA. Felony Net and Toxic Net are all history. Perhaps Warlord will bring
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them back, though, but I don't foresee this any time soon.
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The Grim Reaper and The NotSoHumble Babe were charged with Credit Card
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Fraud, ammounting 18,200$, and software piracy adding up to 72,000$.
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Once you add Genesis' (Thomas') part in, the credit card fraud will probably
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amount to 21,000$, but, that's just my guess, based on all this shit he told
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me about that he assisted in, and some he did on his own.
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When TNSHB says to call her board and leave her your questions, or number
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to call you back at, it is just a simple way to drag you in. Dont fall for
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it. Lives and freedom are too precious to ruin for a bitch like her.
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Just for the hell of it, here are their telephone numbers, if you want to
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verify all this shit, just call and ask them. (I advise you do this from a
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payphone a LONG way from your house, and dont identify yourself)
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The Grim Reaper (Mike) 313-981-1903/313-981-1296
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The NotSoHumble Babe (Amy) 313-442-2523
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Genesis (Thomas) 213-328-7507
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Hope this has all been helpful. If you want more history on these people,
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send a public message on OoofNet in care of [>ANONYMOUS<], and I will give
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the desired history out.
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[> ANONYMOUS <]
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Message : 74 of 99 Posted : 02/03/92 at 7:38 am
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Subject : bust To : Everyone
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From : Cool Hand User Note: INC Vice Pres.
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Ok I will let everyone right now know what is happening with TNSHB TGR and I
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dont want to hear no stories that have been handed down 5 times, here it
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goes...
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also Why should My word be taken here well it is because I talked to TNSHB &
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TGR several times a day since this happened and I had both of them in coference
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yesterday so I know what is going on and This may concern a lot of you so read
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it!
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Now yes TNSHB (The Not so Humble Babe) & TGR (The Grim Reaper) were busted last
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week.. TNSHB got it for Carding, Phreaking, Forgery, and Piracy and maybe some
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other charges1 TGR got it for Carding.. Yes they are in big trouble.. ok.. The
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letter TNSHB put out see did while she was depressed and feeling bad.. and that
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is how she saw it at the time she may want to recant a few things now but maybe
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not... The second file The Truth.zip well thats the last thing it is.. Anyomous
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who did that was sought after how do I know Well he called me 3:00am after the
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bustat work and was dying to know what happened.. See he could not find out
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anything cause everybody's bbs was down or it was to late to call.. So I filled
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him in... In that letter he did he put an opion of mine in there that only him
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and I knew about so I know it was him... Now the truth file may have some truth
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in it but for the most part it is 3rd hand Info so dont beleive it.. Now with
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that out of the way.. This does effect all of us in the pirateing community..
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see first this net and most bbs's either have feds on them or soon will have
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them here... They know who we are and what we are doing they are compiling a
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lot of data.. and TNSHB kept tape recordings of those who called her and very
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organized note which the feds have now... They did not get much from TGR...
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also TNSHB and TGR are cooperating with FEDS in what they want.. They have to
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cause they are looking at a lot of time in Prison.. What would you do in thier
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shoes.. Now the big question is what are the feds going to do about the piracy
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situation.. I quess it is two soon to tell.. It is ashame that carding and the
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other stuff gets releated to our hobby.. I tried to call kenneth welch and
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peter beruk friday at the SPA and see if they would tell me anything but alls
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they wanted was my phone number what a bunch of dick heads.. It is obvious they
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dont want us to know what they are doing they dont want to help they just want
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to bust people because they are laten Homsexuals with nothing better to do in
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thier lives.. I am sure if they told me They were comming I would sell my pc
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and find a new hobby and I am sure most of you would follow... if you all have
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any questions I will answer them or ask TNSHB & TGR to get your answers..
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Vision will still carry on and we will start netting Monday also USA is not
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dead but will suffer from this and probaly not be the contender it once was
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time will tell.. Sysops close your systems to new users and delete dead wait
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and those you do not know.. voice validate everyone. Later
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Cool Hand
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<20> MidNite Oil BBS <20> Burnin' The MidNite Oil!
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<20> CelerityNet 1.4 <20> Posted 02/02/92 @ 7:16 am
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02/03/92
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'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
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By THE GRIM REAPER
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This was originally going to be an article for iNSANITY Magazine #4
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called 'Lamer Pirate Mags, Etc' to straighten out the complete bullshit
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and lies in Badnews #7, but seeing as there are so many rumours floating
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around, and the future of iNSANITY is undecided I decided to just put
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out this textfile to explain what is really going on, less a few lamers out
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there spread all kinds of bullshit and lies, as they seem to do so often.
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Pretty much everything in Badnews #7 was a complete lie, as most of
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you already know by now. There didn't have any backdoors to ViSiON-X, and
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there aren't and weren't any that allowed someone to get the user list. What
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happened on Showdown was the Sysop PW was given out to the wrong person,
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and they used it. So again, nothing but BS and hype on their end. While
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I think the FiRM overhyped themselves, they didn't deserve the ragging they
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got by BaD, and Bad having failed in their own attempt at a Pirate Group
|
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have no right to criticize ANYONE until they've accomplished the same.
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Perhaps a few of the other groups could have said something to them (and
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many talked about it) but they didn't deserve the 3rd Degree from a lamer
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mag.
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The main reason for this article was that while many found the
|
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BaD Mag to be so completely full of shit to the point it was hilarious, some
|
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got to thinking that down the line someone might actually believe some of
|
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the BS. They claimed to be the group that caused the downfall of THG, PE and
|
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others, which was a complete joke... They had absolutley nothing to do with
|
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any of that. USA had killed of THG, etc... What else was there to straighten
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up?
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02/03/92
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'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
|
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By THE GRIM REAPER (Cont'd)
|
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'Did they shoot your Dog????'
|
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- Anonymous Lamer
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So what's up? Well, to make it short and blunt, The Not So Humble
|
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|
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Babe and I were involved in a carding incident. She most likely was being
|
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watched by certain people since she had been using false corporations and
|
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fake Tax ID Numbers to order games, and for suppliers for USA. The Secret
|
|||
|
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Service either stumbled across us that way, from one of the orders gone
|
|||
|
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bad, or from the illegal cash and hardware coming in to Enterprize. The
|
|||
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NSH Babe (Amy) had a cash flow from Dist Sites and other hot hardware from
|
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|
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USA Sites totalling about $3500-5000 a month. She had sent one of her hot
|
|||
|
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laptops she gets every month to Optical Illusion in Canada, and asked him to
|
|||
|
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sell it for her. He wanted to be nice, and tried to sell it. A local from his
|
|||
|
|
416 area wanted to buy the laptop. He went to sell it, and was busted by a
|
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|
|
plainclothes police officer for possesion of stolen property over a $1000.
|
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|
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I found some CC #'s, she had alot of experience with UPS and FedEx from
|
|||
|
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ordering games, and she thought of a way to pick up the packages. We both
|
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|
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placed orders (I placed about 2/3rds since she was picking up, and she placed
|
|||
|
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about a 1/3rd). Most of the stuff wasn't for myself, and was meant for other
|
|||
|
|
people (Trying to be nice, Eh?). In any case, we shouldn't have done it.
|
|||
|
|
TNSH Babe wanted to order a ALOT of stuff, becuz over time she owed people
|
|||
|
|
in USA alot of hardware they had paid her for, and she had never sent to
|
|||
|
|
them. We ordered a bit too much, more than I thought we should have.
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
'They had Bulletproof Vests and Grenades??'
|
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|
|
- Nother |<-Rad D00D!!
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
So then what? Well they found out the packages were coming, and
|
|||
|
|
were waiting for TNSH Babe to pick them up. They went back to her place
|
|||
|
|
and she gave them permission to come in and search. (Dunno what happened in
|
|||
|
|
between then), she talked to them, and they wanted to have her give some of
|
|||
|
|
the stuff she got to me when we were supposed to meet for the first time at a
|
|||
|
|
Meijers parking lot. There were some weird things going on at the time, and
|
|||
|
|
an alarm was flashing in the back of my mind, but I decided to ignore it.
|
|||
|
|
Anyhow, she handed me a hard drive or something, then basically they moved in.
|
|||
|
|
I saw a car pulling up, and figured what was going on. One guy said, 'Secret
|
|||
|
|
Service' (Bout 6 people), and it kinda went downhill from there. But
|
|||
|
|
seriously, they weren't that bad and I cooperated with them.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
They wanted to go back to my house and look around, and wanted permission.
|
|||
|
|
They said they would have gotten a search warrant, and it was in my best
|
|||
|
|
interest to cooperate, so I let them come in. Basically there wasn't anything
|
|||
|
|
in the house, I always throw everything out when I am done with it. As
|
|||
|
|
far as the computer went, I didn't even have anything Unzipped on the Hard
|
|||
|
|
Drive that I hadn't paid for. They wanted to look further on the computer
|
|||
|
|
and in the end did take it, but gave me a receipt. I paid for my entire system,
|
|||
|
|
so don't listen to some of the lamer textfiles floating around. There wasn't
|
|||
|
|
anything on my system, so I might get lucky and they'll give it back. They
|
|||
|
|
also took 3 or 4 computers from Amy's place, but left Static with his. This
|
|||
|
|
was the first time either of us had done anything like this. There had been a
|
|||
|
|
few attempts in the past, but nothing that had ever been followed thru, or had
|
|||
|
|
worked. No no, I've never been busted for this before (more lies), or
|
|||
|
|
anything. I've never been arrested for anything before.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
02/03/92
|
|||
|
|
'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
|
|||
|
|
By THE GRIM REAPER (Cont'd)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
'I formatted my Hard Drive 3 Times!!'
|
|||
|
|
- Local 313 Sysop
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I don't know if it was overreacting, but our dumb situation seemed
|
|||
|
|
to affect alot of other people. The locals over here went apeshit, and
|
|||
|
|
many of them formatted there drives and deleted files (20+), and took
|
|||
|
|
their boards down temporarily. Many of the major Pirate boards decided
|
|||
|
|
to power down for a while. Unfortunatley many of the truly good boards
|
|||
|
|
in the world have gone down, possibly forever. BBS-A-Holic has gone down,
|
|||
|
|
Enterprize is now PD Only, many INC boards, LSD2 possibly for related
|
|||
|
|
reasons, The VOID of course, and many others. Many big namers are
|
|||
|
|
considering quitting the pirate scene because they think it's not worth it,
|
|||
|
|
and they're right. Some of the boards may come back. BBS-A-Holic was
|
|||
|
|
one of my favorites. Many considered The VOID one of the Top 10 Boards
|
|||
|
|
in the world as far as Quality went, and I appreciate the users and the
|
|||
|
|
support, I worked hard to try to make it the best, and put my heart into
|
|||
|
|
it. As are many others, Black Spyrit might be retiring, so I don't know
|
|||
|
|
if another iNSANITY Issue will be coming out. It was truly a great Mag if
|
|||
|
|
you never saw it. The best.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
'I heard they were thrown in jail, and fined $72 Million Dollars!!'
|
|||
|
|
- Another neverending Lamer
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
No matter what or who the issue, this never stops eh? I wouldn't
|
|||
|
|
believe any of the bullshit textfiles, mostly from jealous people and the
|
|||
|
|
few enemies you get when you end up getting towards the top. Especially
|
|||
|
|
the Anonymous (surprise) textfile taken off of OOFNet (Surprise again, huh?
|
|||
|
|
Heh) are as always complete BS.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Try not to be a lamer. There are too many of 'em, and they do nothing for
|
|||
|
|
the Pirate world. If you are going to do anything, do SOMETHING. Organize
|
|||
|
|
a group of some type, Coordinate Couriers, do some VGA or ANSi work, or get
|
|||
|
|
in a group, but don't be a Lamer. Call LD, and establish a Rep, and see what
|
|||
|
|
you are missing. All Locals aren't Lamers, but 90% are.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
A Lamer - A person who calls only Local boards, does nothing but leech files,
|
|||
|
|
and doesn't contribute to groups in any ways.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Neither BaD, any locals, or Socrates had anything to do with us getting
|
|||
|
|
into trouble in any way.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
'Don't try this at home kids.'
|
|||
|
|
- Grim '92
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All things considered, I wish it wouldn't have ended this way.
|
|||
|
|
I don't think any of this was good for anyone in the pirate or BBS world.
|
|||
|
|
USA is now pretty much a dead group. Many of the best boards have gone down,
|
|||
|
|
and others are considering calling it quits becuz it just isn't worth it.
|
|||
|
|
INC never was a for profit group, and had no illegitimate cash flow unlike
|
|||
|
|
USA.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Adieu's
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-=INC=- '92 - The Conferences sure were a blast, you guys really cracked me
|
|||
|
|
up at times and kept it from getting boring. I have alot of
|
|||
|
|
good memories. Sorry if I let you guys down. Call me sometime.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Cool Hand - Dumb, eh?
|
|||
|
|
You were loyal, and a great organiser.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lestat - A good friend, and a killer accent. Call me.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Bloody Butcher - Your Dad still carrying around with that axe?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Optical - Hmmm, we shoulda known better...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Drew - Hard to get ahold of, hey.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<ACiD> Artists - You guys where always great Manufacturer, Tracer, The Eel,
|
|||
|
|
and Black SpyriT ofcourse. Ed, give me a call anytime.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Socrates (A local 313 Lamer) - You are a true coward, and a true Lamer.
|
|||
|
|
How you live with yourself is beyond me.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
OOFNet - Dead pirate groups, Lamers, no ANSi, and Telegard boards... What
|
|||
|
|
more to say?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Sought After - Give it up already. I heard you wrote one of those bullshit
|
|||
|
|
textfiles, eh?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
P.S. This article is meant for iNSANiTY Magazine #4. Please make sure it
|
|||
|
|
makes it in there. (Black SpyriT)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
' The Scene, as I see it, and a warning to all
|
|||
|
|
my modem acquaintences '
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
By: Sought After
|
|||
|
|
T/Date: 11:47pm Feb 3 1992
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
After seeing what has happened to The Grim Reaper, and TNSHB, their
|
|||
|
|
boards, their groups, all that has happened since their bust, and the
|
|||
|
|
reaction everyone is showing, I got pretty shook up about it.
|
|||
|
|
(Yes, I got shook up)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Everything seemed normal, as far as police procedure, but after
|
|||
|
|
talking to TGR and hearing that he and TNSHB were not charged with anything,
|
|||
|
|
after all of the things they (Mostly her) were involved in, I became
|
|||
|
|
suspicious as to what was really happening. I mean, people don't just get
|
|||
|
|
busted by the S.S., State, and Local authorities for the hell of it. And when
|
|||
|
|
they are busted, they are BUSTED. They are taken downtown, and they are
|
|||
|
|
charged with the crime(s) they committed, etc. From what I know, they were
|
|||
|
|
not charged with anything. Enterprise was the Courier HQ for USA, a board
|
|||
|
|
containing MANY warez, a board that had a HD loaded with shit the Feds would
|
|||
|
|
take an intertest in. Now, why did the Feds take 3 of her other computers,
|
|||
|
|
and not take the Enterprise as well? Reguardless if she could prove she owned
|
|||
|
|
that computer/modem, etc by receipt of purchase, it would still contain
|
|||
|
|
stuff that is illegal to have, therefore it would need to be confiscated,
|
|||
|
|
and the data looked over by the authorities, then the computer would be
|
|||
|
|
returned to the owner AFTER the trial, and they had been sentenced in a
|
|||
|
|
court of law, IF the Judge saw fit to return it, and not until then.
|
|||
|
|
Now, this is totally opposite of procedure normally taken by the Feds.
|
|||
|
|
They should have been charged with numerous Federal charges, they should
|
|||
|
|
have been in jail until a Michigan State Judge decided bail, or to release
|
|||
|
|
them, and ALL of her equipment should have been confiscated, not just some.
|
|||
|
|
This is the first time I have seen anything like this happen, this is why I
|
|||
|
|
have decided to do what I am doing.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I called THE GRIM REAPER up voice last night, and asked him how things
|
|||
|
|
were going. I wanted to get his side of the story. We discussed various
|
|||
|
|
things concerning this 'bust', and I noticed a lot of what is floating around
|
|||
|
|
has been exagerated, but not really. (Something is being hidden from all of
|
|||
|
|
us by TGR/TNSHB, this I am sure of, that is why I am writing this file, that
|
|||
|
|
is why I made so many phone calls to see what the hell is going on)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I program for a living, mostly Telecommunications Security type programs,
|
|||
|
|
to keep 'hackers' out of corporate databases. Since I do this, I do make
|
|||
|
|
friends with government agents, bell security, etc, and can find out what
|
|||
|
|
is going on. (No, I have NOTHING to do with ANY type of investigation on
|
|||
|
|
ANYONE ever at ANY time. I am not one of them, I just use my knowledge gained
|
|||
|
|
through years of hacking to keep hackers out, but I do meet people who are
|
|||
|
|
interested in what I can do, and they do have lose tongues, that is all.
|
|||
|
|
I am not in any way, shape, or form involved with any law enforcement agency,
|
|||
|
|
wheather National, State, County, or Local. Nor any software company, nor any
|
|||
|
|
phone company. I am not a payed informant for any of the above. <Had to say
|
|||
|
|
that, it is a good formality, especially in times such as these, so forgive
|
|||
|
|
the nerdiness of that comment> I would never go as low as busting ANYONE,
|
|||
|
|
that is one reason I am telling you guys what is going on, SO, now you know
|
|||
|
|
where I get my info, so don't go making any uneducated assumptions, ok?
|
|||
|
|
Thanks)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There has been an investigation conducted by the FBI for the last 1.5
|
|||
|
|
years. This investigation was to be done differently from any in the past.
|
|||
|
|
Normally in the past, just one or two people would be arrested for whatever
|
|||
|
|
they were doing, but the rest of the people in the 'scene' were not really
|
|||
|
|
touched. This only put a bit of fear in a minority of the 'scene' for a
|
|||
|
|
short period of time, and before long whatever it was that was being done
|
|||
|
|
(Carding, Phreaking, Pirating, whatever) was back into action full speed.
|
|||
|
|
What does this mean? This means the Feds were having a very small success
|
|||
|
|
rate, and basically waisting government time, money, their time, and it all
|
|||
|
|
ammounting to a lot of paper work, and the amount of frauds increasing.
|
|||
|
|
Software companies lose an estimated $2 Billion a year, IEC's (LD Companies)
|
|||
|
|
usually lose about $5 Billion a year, and who knows how much Credit Card
|
|||
|
|
companies lose a year. These large corporations can only take so much, and
|
|||
|
|
since all this shit is either a Federal thing, or is done over state lines,
|
|||
|
|
the FBI are the guys who handle it. Now the FBI know what is going on out
|
|||
|
|
there. They know that they are not doing any good, so that is why they
|
|||
|
|
decided to conduct this extensive 'open file' investigation of the whole
|
|||
|
|
scene. When they make a bust, the new tactic has been to find out as much
|
|||
|
|
information about the "bustee's" friends in the scene as possible. Who
|
|||
|
|
his friends are, what they are known to do, who they know, etc. They then
|
|||
|
|
let this person off that gave them the info.(I only assume they let them off,
|
|||
|
|
by the way TGR and TNSHB's case has been handled, and what a DA told me)
|
|||
|
|
This type of busting can best be visualized by the term you find in most
|
|||
|
|
BBS softwares, "Read messages by threads?". Do you understand now? The busts
|
|||
|
|
are being/going-to-be conducted by threads. People who were close friends,
|
|||
|
|
associates-in-fraud, closely associated will be taken down in threads. The
|
|||
|
|
whole group of people. The first major bust done like this is TNSHB and
|
|||
|
|
THE GRIM REAPER. What next? If Cool Hand goes (Just hypothetical, my friend),
|
|||
|
|
then who with him? The Cracksmith, and their buddies?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Right now I am pretty positive that THE GRIM REAPER and The Not So Humble
|
|||
|
|
Babe are doing the same thing other people have been doing with the Feds,
|
|||
|
|
and that is giving the Feds everything they know about everyone. I am talking
|
|||
|
|
detailed shit. Why? Because the more the Feds know, the better they know how
|
|||
|
|
to handle each group of people. A lot of people are in danger right now.
|
|||
|
|
Especially people who were in close and consistent communication with
|
|||
|
|
TGR and TNSHB. Sucks, eh? No joke. Well, what to do to make it safe for
|
|||
|
|
yourself? QUIT THE SCENE NOW! NOT TOMORROW! The sooner the better. And, when
|
|||
|
|
you quit publically announce it, as myself, and as The Eel has done. Why
|
|||
|
|
publically? Because then the little 'informants' will get the word to the
|
|||
|
|
Feds, and then you will be marked off their list. If you quit now, then
|
|||
|
|
the Feds most likely will not have a chance to bust you for anything.
|
|||
|
|
You won't have a Pirate board to bust, you won't be phreaking, you won't be
|
|||
|
|
talking to people who are, you won't be uploading and downloading the latest
|
|||
|
|
wares, you won't be keeping that high-profile which draws so much attention,
|
|||
|
|
therefore you are not a target. Just because someone implicates you as a
|
|||
|
|
major guy to bust because of <Fill in the blank>, doesn't mean you are going
|
|||
|
|
to be busted. They have to find SOME proof to back up the statement. Quit now,
|
|||
|
|
and they have no proof. How do you guys like your freedom? I kinda like to be
|
|||
|
|
able to wake up in the morning, at any hour I like, eat my own food, take
|
|||
|
|
showers whenever I want, go wherever I want, do whatever I want, have no
|
|||
|
|
limitations upon myself, have some pussy, live life, go places. What is all
|
|||
|
|
that called? It's called freedom. Freedom is what makes life liveable.
|
|||
|
|
Not all the people who get busted will get to be the Fed's tutors in who
|
|||
|
|
we are, what we do, who we know, etc. Only a very few. I think the rest of
|
|||
|
|
the guys who get busted, most likely only 2-5 people will get as lucky as
|
|||
|
|
that, if you want to call losing your computer lucky, wheather they were
|
|||
|
|
charged or not. Some of you are pretty damn established in the modem world,
|
|||
|
|
as was I, and don't want to give it up. You might want to risk staying in.
|
|||
|
|
But it's not worth it. Don't take chances. Look, I am not a religious person
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at all, but I am a person who would rather be safe then sorry. About 5 years
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ago I went to a Christian Church, learned their teachings, and did what I
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needed to become one of them, so that in the end, according to their
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teachings, I would go to Heaven. I don't really believe in a Heaven or Hell,
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or in going to Church, but I did that ONLY in case it was true. I mean, what
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would I lose? I did it, it's over, if it was all true I do go to 'heaven' when
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I die, and if I had otherwise not done it, I would have gone to 'hell', and if
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it turns out untrue, then it was at least an educational experiance, and no
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loss to me. If you only dropped the scene for a few months and watched what
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happens to those who stay, perhaps that will even do. I don't plan on ever
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comming back to the scene, but for those who really are unsure about giving
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up, just quit and see what happens in the next few month. When you see
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what happens to those who do stay, you will be glad you didn't take that
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chance. Look, all of you guys in the scene are VERY talented. Some more then
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others, but at the very least you can operate a computer. That is a required
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skill these days. But for those of you who can crack, code, those of you
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who are artist, those of you who organize, you can utilize your skills in
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the real world, and make a HELL of a lot of money. Just gotta call the
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right people. I would guess there are only about 500 of you guys that I can
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think of, maybe 1,500 in the whole country. Not many out of a country that
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has 250 Million in it, is it? That means that all of you could find a job
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utilizing your knowledge learned from the computer, your abilities (Cracking,
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coding, artists, organizers, etc) in a way that is productive in the long-run,
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earn money from it, and feel good that you accomplished something that counts.
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Do you guys realize how much socializing is done on the boards? It is all
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politics, diplomacy, socialization, communciation, and having skill in each
|
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of those is really helpful. Yuo know that you all have most likely learned
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that you can read someone's personality by the way they organize their
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thoughts on paper? Neat I think. Anyway, you guys have the chance to pull
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out of the scene now, and put your skills to good use. Otherwise, some Fed
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could knock at your door the next morning, arrest you, take your computer,
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and take you to Court. After court you most likely will pay a very large
|
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fine for any pirated wares, restitutional charges for any phreaking/Credit
|
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Card theft, and fines for Carding, etc. This goes on your permanent criminal
|
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|
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record, and scars you for life. Then, it would be like 90% harder to get that
|
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|
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good paying computer-related job, or anywhere you wanted to work. Pull out
|
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|
|
now, guys. It is the only wise decision. Don't let the feds have a reason
|
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|
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to bust you. Yes, getting busted for software piracy does suck, and I
|
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|
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personally don't think it should be illegal, but don't take the cance of
|
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|
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getting a criminal record for having the newest K-Kewl warez, and the fine
|
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|
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that comes with it. At LEAST wait for this shit to die over. I am
|
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|
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leaving the scene most likely forever because I want to leave it all behind.
|
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|
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I have had a good 'career' here. Was -=INC=- Secretary, was -=IUD=- President,
|
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|
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was in iCE and ACiD, was in FelonyNET, ran Crewel Lye, got recognition, did my
|
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|
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job effitiently, I have gotten all I can get out of it, it is time to move
|
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|
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on. I am not going to lose all I have because I stayed around too long.
|
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I hope I have gotten the point accross. I am not blowing shit up
|
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|
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anyone's ass. I am telling you guys this because you have a future ahead
|
|||
|
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of you, even people as old as Cracker Jack ;), and you don't need to go
|
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|
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through the crap the Feds can give you. I like you all, even though some
|
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|
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people I had disagreements with, they were still good people, and not
|
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disserving of a bust.
|
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I am going to finish this now, I don't know what else to say.
|
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|
|
Already 12k long, pretty fucking big. heh. Well, I will close out by
|
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sending my last greets to all I can think of.
|
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Line Noise - Hey guy, was great being in INC. The people were great,
|
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|
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the atmosphere was great, and the group had moral it seemed (Till the end).
|
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|
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Also, I do applaud you for running your group w/out drug money, and hot
|
|||
|
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hardware to support the cashflow for software. You are a very intelligent
|
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|
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person, and I know you will succede in life. Take it safe, and easy man,
|
|||
|
|
and no hard feelings. You did what you thought was right.
|
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|
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Cool Hand - Really enjoyed talking to you as much as I did. You are
|
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|
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a great person, even though we were incompatable in the end. I think we were
|
|||
|
|
both a little unreasonable, but hey, no hard feelings. You were a great
|
|||
|
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person to work under, and I enjoyed your 'care-free' personality. You remind
|
|||
|
|
me of that character from the movie Total Recall, Cohagen. As the people were
|
|||
|
|
giving out of air in Venusville, Cohagen said, "Fuck 'em". That is a phrase
|
|||
|
|
you often used, and I found it quite humorous. As TNSHB said, you have two
|
|||
|
|
kids and a wife, 3 very good reasons to be careful now. I would give the
|
|||
|
|
scene up, at least temporarily, don't leave them w/out a husband man, they
|
|||
|
|
need you. Take care.
|
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|
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|
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Bloody ButCher - You were a true friend, and the most loyal of people I
|
|||
|
|
have ever met, thanks. I will miss our 'About that time again' conversations.
|
|||
|
|
But, I will always know that Mai gno Lam! heh. Take it easy man, and Ace
|
|||
|
|
your classes!
|
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|
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|
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The Grim Reaper - Looks like they got you man, and you were one of the
|
|||
|
|
luckier ones, eh? Well, hope it all works out for you. I did enjoy all our
|
|||
|
|
conversations, and will miss them. Hey Cool Hand, this was a loyal fucker,
|
|||
|
|
too. He and Bloody make your group shine. (As much as I hate to admit that ;)
|
|||
|
|
Now I guess I am off to Rio for some sun, as you suggested. Take care!
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
The Triton - Haven't seen you ANYWHERE? Anyway, enjoyed the chats we had.
|
|||
|
|
You are an interesting character. Still going to shove your "Big Philipeno
|
|||
|
|
dick up Vigilante's ass"? Would be good, someone should dispose of that loser.
|
|||
|
|
Take it easy man, perhaps I will come see you sometime? We live near enough.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
The Cracksmith - You were one of the fairest people I met in the scene
|
|||
|
|
man, thanks for trying to smooth things out for me before I left INC.
|
|||
|
|
Anyway, good luck to you.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Warlord - Selfish pig. Get your mind off yourself and think of others for
|
|||
|
|
once, and perhaps then you might get something besides an XT. Greed gets you
|
|||
|
|
know where.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Genesis - Shit, what happened to you man? After Amy's demise, never
|
|||
|
|
saw you again? Oh well. I enjoyed all of our talks we had months back.
|
|||
|
|
You were another of the most unique people I met in the scene. Hope things
|
|||
|
|
all work out for you, take it easy.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Striker - A most dedicated Courier indeed! One that INC doesn't
|
|||
|
|
realize is so good. Good luck guy.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Warlock - Another dedicated personality, sorry I never got to make you
|
|||
|
|
a real Courier in the group, you sure as hell earned it. Take care.
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
Honus Wagner - A gifted artist and true friend.
|
|||
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|
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|
|
Black SpyriT - A gifted artist and one I would consider a friend.
|
|||
|
|
Remember, "Moan, groan, hold on a sec, Dave".hahah. My ghod, he was a
|
|||
|
|
humourous person sometimes wasn't he? And, I love your initials - BS.
|
|||
|
|
Every time I see them I think the opposite of what I should.
|
|||
|
|
BTW, your magazine was truly the best out there.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Centurion - We never met for lunch? Still want to? (As long as we don't
|
|||
|
|
discuss group politics).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
RaD MaN - Another gifted artist. Appreciate the membership in the
|
|||
|
|
finest ANSi/VGA group, I am honored. Take care, and use your skill in a
|
|||
|
|
profitable way, and get off the damn phone, your bill is too high ;)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
JED - The most talented of artist, I thank you for the ANSi's you made
|
|||
|
|
for my members, I hope to see more of your art someday, eh? Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Eel - You are a truly great person, and have foresight, and plan
|
|||
|
|
for the future. Let us hope the rest do the same. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Dark Knight - Thanks for having faith in me, sorry to let you down.
|
|||
|
|
You too are one of the few who seem so loyal. I consider you also a true
|
|||
|
|
friend. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Optical Ilusion - A True loser you are. I hope the bbs world is
|
|||
|
|
rid of you forever.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Navajo - Another truly talented artist, I appreciate the VGA you did.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Cyberpunk - A dedicated person again. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lestat - I remember when I made you a Trial Courier in INC, one of the
|
|||
|
|
first as I recall. I see you made it quite far in there, glad for you man.
|
|||
|
|
You are a really cool person, and allow me to quote TGR, 'You have a killer
|
|||
|
|
accent'. No joke, a genuine accent indeed. Take care man.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SCi-Fi - You Couriered for me for a while. And greeted me in a WARES
|
|||
|
|
release, Norton Commander 4.0, I believe. Greets in return. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Dark Spyre - A backstabber and loser of the highest order. I am sure
|
|||
|
|
others will see that in time. You have earned the rep you have.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Guardian - Was a short stay for you. Good luck my friend.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The PieMaN - You are a cool person, hope things stay well for you.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Axiom Codex - Another true friend out there. Gee, there were more of
|
|||
|
|
you then I thought. That's nice to know. I won't abandon you guys. I will
|
|||
|
|
vacation for a while, then call you. No law against talking to you guys.
|
|||
|
|
Take it safe man.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Tank - Thanks for the ANSi's man, they were your last, I shall remember
|
|||
|
|
them as commemratives.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The NotSoHumble Babe - Everyone gets what they deserve, especially when
|
|||
|
|
they are as stupid as you. Oh well, losers are losers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Shadowalker - Or was it ShadowLord? (grin)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lord Blix - Life is so short. (Where are the rest of the Heart
|
|||
|
|
Breakers?)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Marshall Law - Another talented artist, and I never got my ANSi from
|
|||
|
|
you. What happened? Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
AfterMath - Good luck with V-X man, it's a GREAT software. But be wise,
|
|||
|
|
and don't engauge in such foolish things as did the previous admin. You
|
|||
|
|
are a great guy. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryec - Good luck with V-X man. I hope to see it continue to thrive, and
|
|||
|
|
win everyone's respect. It is a truly awesome software. And I know it will
|
|||
|
|
get into production now that someone dedicated is in charge.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Zodact - Sorry things didn't work out w/INC. Is Razor dead now too?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That's all the people I can think of. To those I forgot, may you take it
|
|||
|
|
easy, and learn from all this shit. I will quote someone, "You may very
|
|||
|
|
well be witnessing the end of the pirate world". It's no shit. Uncool
|
|||
|
|
thought, but neat to witness it, eh? I hope you all take the message in this
|
|||
|
|
letter seriously. It is no joke man, life is very serious. Good luck to all.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Black SpyriT - Put this in iNSANiTY #4 along with Mike's, will you? I always
|
|||
|
|
promised you an article, here it is ;) Take care
|
|||
|
|
' The Scene, as I see it, and a warning to all
|
|||
|
|
my modem acquaintences '
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
By: Sought After
|
|||
|
|
T/Date: 11:47pm Feb 3 1992
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
After seeing what has happened to The Grim Reaper, and TNSHB, their
|
|||
|
|
boards, their groups, all that has happened since their bust, and the
|
|||
|
|
reaction everyone is showing, I got pretty shook up about it.
|
|||
|
|
(Yes, I got shook up)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Everything seemed normal, as far as police procedure, but after
|
|||
|
|
talking to TGR and hearing that he and TNSHB were not charged with anything,
|
|||
|
|
after all of the things they (Mostly her) were involved in, I became
|
|||
|
|
suspicious as to what was really happening. I mean, people don't just get
|
|||
|
|
busted by the S.S., State, and Local authorities for the hell of it. And when
|
|||
|
|
they are busted, they are BUSTED. They are taken downtown, and they are
|
|||
|
|
charged with the crime(s) they committed, etc. From what I know, they were
|
|||
|
|
not charged with anything. Enterprise was the Courier HQ for USA, a board
|
|||
|
|
containing MANY warez, a board that had a HD loaded with shit the Feds would
|
|||
|
|
take an intertest in. Now, why did the Feds take 3 of her other computers,
|
|||
|
|
and not take the Enterprise as well? Reguardless if she could prove she owned
|
|||
|
|
that computer/modem, etc by receipt of purchase, it would still contain
|
|||
|
|
stuff that is illegal to have, therefore it would need to be confiscated,
|
|||
|
|
and the data looked over by the authorities, then the computer would be
|
|||
|
|
returned to the owner AFTER the trial, and they had been sentenced in a
|
|||
|
|
court of law, IF the Judge saw fit to return it, and not until then.
|
|||
|
|
Now, this is totally opposite of procedure normally taken by the Feds.
|
|||
|
|
They should have been charged with numerous Federal charges, they should
|
|||
|
|
have been in jail until a Michigan State Judge decided bail, or to release
|
|||
|
|
them, and ALL of her equipment should have been confiscated, not just some.
|
|||
|
|
This is the first time I have seen anything like this happen, this is why I
|
|||
|
|
have decided to do what I am doing.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I called THE GRIM REAPER up voice last night, and asked him how things
|
|||
|
|
were going. I wanted to get his side of the story. We discussed various
|
|||
|
|
things concerning this 'bust', and I noticed a lot of what is floating around
|
|||
|
|
has been exagerated, but not really. (Something is being hidden from all of
|
|||
|
|
us by TGR/TNSHB, this I am sure of, that is why I am writing this file, that
|
|||
|
|
is why I made so many phone calls to see what the hell is going on)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I program for a living, mostly Telecommunications Security type programs,
|
|||
|
|
to keep 'hackers' out of corporate databases. Since I do this, I do make
|
|||
|
|
friends with government agents, bell security, etc, and can find out what
|
|||
|
|
is going on. (No, I have NOTHING to do with ANY type of investigation on
|
|||
|
|
ANYONE ever at ANY time. I am not one of them, I just use my knowledge gained
|
|||
|
|
through years of hacking to keep hackers out, but I do meet people who are
|
|||
|
|
interested in what I can do, and they do have lose tongues, that is all.
|
|||
|
|
I am not in any way, shape, or form involved with any law enforcement agency,
|
|||
|
|
wheather National, State, County, or Local. Nor any software company, nor any
|
|||
|
|
phone company. I am not a payed informant for any of the above. <Had to say
|
|||
|
|
that, it is a good formality, especially in times such as these, so forgive
|
|||
|
|
the nerdiness of that comment> I would never go as low as busting ANYONE,
|
|||
|
|
that is one reason I am telling you guys what is going on, SO, now you know
|
|||
|
|
where I get my info, so don't go making any uneducated assumptions, ok?
|
|||
|
|
Thanks)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There has been an investigation conducted by the FBI for the last 1.5
|
|||
|
|
years. This investigation was to be done differently from any in the past.
|
|||
|
|
Normally in the past, just one or two people would be arrested for whatever
|
|||
|
|
they were doing, but the rest of the people in the 'scene' were not really
|
|||
|
|
touched. This only put a bit of fear in a minority of the 'scene' for a
|
|||
|
|
short period of time, and before long whatever it was that was being done
|
|||
|
|
(Carding, Phreaking, Pirating, whatever) was back into action full speed.
|
|||
|
|
What does this mean? This means the Feds were having a very small success
|
|||
|
|
rate, and basically waisting government time, money, their time, and it all
|
|||
|
|
ammounting to a lot of paper work, and the amount of frauds increasing.
|
|||
|
|
Software companies lose an estimated $2 Billion a year, IEC's (LD Companies)
|
|||
|
|
usually lose about $5 Billion a year, and who knows how much Credit Card
|
|||
|
|
companies lose a year. These large corporations can only take so much, and
|
|||
|
|
since all this shit is either a Federal thing, or is done over state lines,
|
|||
|
|
the FBI are the guys who handle it. Now the FBI know what is going on out
|
|||
|
|
there. They know that they are not doing any good, so that is why they
|
|||
|
|
decided to conduct this extensive 'open file' investigation of the whole
|
|||
|
|
scene. When they make a bust, the new tactic has been to find out as much
|
|||
|
|
information about the "bustee's" friends in the scene as possible. Who
|
|||
|
|
his friends are, what they are known to do, who they know, etc. They then
|
|||
|
|
let this person off that gave them the info.(I only assume they let them off,
|
|||
|
|
by the way TGR and TNSHB's case has been handled, and what a DA told me)
|
|||
|
|
This type of busting can best be visualized by the term you find in most
|
|||
|
|
BBS softwares, "Read messages by threads?". Do you understand now? The busts
|
|||
|
|
are being/going-to-be conducted by threads. People who were close friends,
|
|||
|
|
associates-in-fraud, closely associated will be taken down in threads. The
|
|||
|
|
whole group of people. The first major bust done like this is TNSHB and
|
|||
|
|
THE GRIM REAPER. What next? If Cool Hand goes (Just hypothetical, my friend),
|
|||
|
|
then who with him? The Cracksmith, and their buddies?
|
|||
|
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Right now I am pretty positive that THE GRIM REAPER and The Not So Humble
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Babe are doing the same thing other people have been doing with the Feds,
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and that is giving the Feds everything they know about everyone. I am talking
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detailed shit. Why? Because the more the Feds know, the better they know how
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to handle each group of people. A lot of people are in danger right now.
|
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Especially people who were in close and consistent communication with
|
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TGR and TNSHB. Sucks, eh? No joke. Well, what to do to make it safe for
|
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yourself? QUIT THE SCENE NOW! NOT TOMORROW! The sooner the better. And, when
|
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you quit publically announce it, as myself, and as The Eel has done. Why
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publically? Because then the little 'informants' will get the word to the
|
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Feds, and then you will be marked off their list. If you quit now, then
|
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the Feds most likely will not have a chance to bust you for anything.
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You won't have a Pirate board to bust, you won't be phreaking, you won't be
|
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talking to people who are, you won't be uploading and downloading the latest
|
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wares, you won't be keeping that high-profile which draws so much attention,
|
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therefore you are not a target. Just because someone implicates you as a
|
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major guy to bust because of <Fill in the blank>, doesn't mean you are going
|
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to be busted. They have to find SOME proof to back up the statement. Quit now,
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and they have no proof. How do you guys like your freedom? I kinda like to be
|
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able to wake up in the morning, at any hour I like, eat my own food, take
|
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showers whenever I want, go wherever I want, do whatever I want, have no
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limitations upon myself, have some pussy, live life, go places. What is all
|
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that called? It's called freedom. Freedom is what makes life liveable.
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Not all the people who get busted will get to be the Fed's tutors in who
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we are, what we do, who we know, etc. Only a very few. I think the rest of
|
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the guys who get busted, most likely only 2-5 people will get as lucky as
|
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that, if you want to call losing your computer lucky, wheather they were
|
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charged or not. Some of you are pretty damn established in the modem world,
|
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as was I, and don't want to give it up. You might want to risk staying in.
|
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But it's not worth it. Don't take chances. Look, I am not a religious person
|
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at all, but I am a person who would rather be safe then sorry. About 5 years
|
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|
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ago I went to a Christian Church, learned their teachings, and did what I
|
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needed to become one of them, so that in the end, according to their
|
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teachings, I would go to Heaven. I don't really believe in a Heaven or Hell,
|
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|
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or in going to Church, but I did that ONLY in case it was true. I mean, what
|
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|
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would I lose? I did it, it's over, if it was all true I do go to 'heaven' when
|
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I die, and if I had otherwise not done it, I would have gone to 'hell', and if
|
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it turns out untrue, then it was at least an educational experiance, and no
|
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|
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loss to me. If you only dropped the scene for a few months and watched what
|
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|
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happens to those who stay, perhaps that will even do. I don't plan on ever
|
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|
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comming back to the scene, but for those who really are unsure about giving
|
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|
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up, just quit and see what happens in the next few month. When you see
|
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|
|
what happens to those who do stay, you will be glad you didn't take that
|
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|
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chance. Look, all of you guys in the scene are VERY talented. Some more then
|
|||
|
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others, but at the very least you can operate a computer. That is a required
|
|||
|
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skill these days. But for those of you who can crack, code, those of you
|
|||
|
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who are artist, those of you who organize, you can utilize your skills in
|
|||
|
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the real world, and make a HELL of a lot of money. Just gotta call the
|
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|
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right people. I would guess there are only about 500 of you guys that I can
|
|||
|
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think of, maybe 1,500 in the whole country. Not many out of a country that
|
|||
|
|
has 250 Million in it, is it? That means that all of you could find a job
|
|||
|
|
utilizing your knowledge learned from the computer, your abilities (Cracking,
|
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|
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coding, artists, organizers, etc) in a way that is productive in the long-run,
|
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|
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earn money from it, and feel good that you accomplished something that counts.
|
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|
|
Do you guys realize how much socializing is done on the boards? It is all
|
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|
|
politics, diplomacy, socialization, communciation, and having skill in each
|
|||
|
|
of those is really helpful. Yuo know that you all have most likely learned
|
|||
|
|
that you can read someone's personality by the way they organize their
|
|||
|
|
thoughts on paper? Neat I think. Anyway, you guys have the chance to pull
|
|||
|
|
out of the scene now, and put your skills to good use. Otherwise, some Fed
|
|||
|
|
could knock at your door the next morning, arrest you, take your computer,
|
|||
|
|
and take you to Court. After court you most likely will pay a very large
|
|||
|
|
fine for any pirated wares, restitutional charges for any phreaking/Credit
|
|||
|
|
Card theft, and fines for Carding, etc. This goes on your permanent criminal
|
|||
|
|
record, and scars you for life. Then, it would be like 90% harder to get that
|
|||
|
|
good paying computer-related job, or anywhere you wanted to work. Pull out
|
|||
|
|
now, guys. It is the only wise decision. Don't let the feds have a reason
|
|||
|
|
to bust you. Yes, getting busted for software piracy does suck, and I
|
|||
|
|
personally don't think it should be illegal, but don't take the cance of
|
|||
|
|
getting a criminal record for having the newest K-Kewl warez, and the fine
|
|||
|
|
that comes with it. At LEAST wait for this shit to die over. I am
|
|||
|
|
leaving the scene most likely forever because I want to leave it all behind.
|
|||
|
|
I have had a good 'career' here. Was -=INC=- Secretary, was -=IUD=- President,
|
|||
|
|
was in iCE and ACiD, was in FelonyNET, ran Crewel Lye, got recognition, did my
|
|||
|
|
job effitiently, I have gotten all I can get out of it, it is time to move
|
|||
|
|
on. I am not going to lose all I have because I stayed around too long.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
I hope I have gotten the point accross. I am not blowing shit up
|
|||
|
|
anyone's ass. I am telling you guys this because you have a future ahead
|
|||
|
|
of you, even people as old as Cracker Jack ;), and you don't need to go
|
|||
|
|
through the crap the Feds can give you. I like you all, even though some
|
|||
|
|
people I had disagreements with, they were still good people, and not
|
|||
|
|
disserving of a bust.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I am going to finish this now, I don't know what else to say.
|
|||
|
|
Already 12k long, pretty fucking big. heh. Well, I will close out by
|
|||
|
|
sending my last greets to all I can think of.
|
|||
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|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Line Noise - Hey guy, was great being in INC. The people were great,
|
|||
|
|
the atmosphere was great, and the group had moral it seemed (Till the end).
|
|||
|
|
Also, I do applaud you for running your group w/out drug money, and hot
|
|||
|
|
hardware to support the cashflow for software. You are a very intelligent
|
|||
|
|
person, and I know you will succede in life. Take it safe, and easy man,
|
|||
|
|
and no hard feelings. You did what you thought was right.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Cool Hand - Really enjoyed talking to you as much as I did. You are
|
|||
|
|
a great person, even though we were incompatable in the end. I think we were
|
|||
|
|
both a little unreasonable, but hey, no hard feelings. You were a great
|
|||
|
|
person to work under, and I enjoyed your 'care-free' personality. You remind
|
|||
|
|
me of that character from the movie Total Recall, Cohagen. As the people were
|
|||
|
|
giving out of air in Venusville, Cohagen said, "Fuck 'em". That is a phrase
|
|||
|
|
you often used, and I found it quite humorous. As TNSHB said, you have two
|
|||
|
|
kids and a wife, 3 very good reasons to be careful now. I would give the
|
|||
|
|
scene up, at least temporarily, don't leave them w/out a husband man, they
|
|||
|
|
need you. Take care.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Bloody ButCher - You were a true friend, and the most loyal of people I
|
|||
|
|
have ever met, thanks. I will miss our 'About that time again' conversations.
|
|||
|
|
But, I will always know that Mai gno Lam! heh. Take it easy man, and Ace
|
|||
|
|
your classes!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Grim Reaper - Looks like they got you man, and you were one of the
|
|||
|
|
luckier ones, eh? Well, hope it all works out for you. I did enjoy all our
|
|||
|
|
conversations, and will miss them. Hey Cool Hand, this was a loyal fucker,
|
|||
|
|
too. He and Bloody make your group shine. (As much as I hate to admit that ;)
|
|||
|
|
Now I guess I am off to Rio for some sun, as you suggested. Take care!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Triton - Haven't seen you ANYWHERE? Anyway, enjoyed the chats we had.
|
|||
|
|
You are an interesting character. Still going to shove your "Big Philipeno
|
|||
|
|
dick up Vigilante's ass"? Would be good, someone should dispose of that loser.
|
|||
|
|
Take it easy man, perhaps I will come see you sometime? We live near enough.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Cracksmith - You were one of the fairest people I met in the scene
|
|||
|
|
man, thanks for trying to smooth things out for me before I left INC.
|
|||
|
|
Anyway, good luck to you.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Warlord - Selfish pig. Get your mind off yourself and think of others for
|
|||
|
|
once, and perhaps then you might get something besides an XT. Greed gets you
|
|||
|
|
know where.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Genesis - Shit, what happened to you man? After Amy's demise, never
|
|||
|
|
saw you again? Oh well. I enjoyed all of our talks we had months back.
|
|||
|
|
You were another of the most unique people I met in the scene. Hope things
|
|||
|
|
all work out for you, take it easy.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Striker - A most dedicated Courier indeed! One that INC doesn't
|
|||
|
|
realize is so good. Good luck guy.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Warlock - Another dedicated personality, sorry I never got to make you
|
|||
|
|
a real Courier in the group, you sure as hell earned it. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Honus Wagner - A gifted artist and true friend.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Black SpyriT - A gifted artist and one I would consider a friend.
|
|||
|
|
Remember, "Moan, groan, hold on a sec, Dave".hahah. My ghod, he was a
|
|||
|
|
humourous person sometimes wasn't he? And, I love your initials - BS.
|
|||
|
|
Every time I see them I think the opposite of what I should.
|
|||
|
|
BTW, your magazine was truly the best out there.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Centurion - We never met for lunch? Still want to? (As long as we don't
|
|||
|
|
discuss group politics).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
RaD MaN - Another gifted artist. Appreciate the membership in the
|
|||
|
|
finest ANSi/VGA group, I am honored. Take care, and use your skill in a
|
|||
|
|
profitable way, and get off the damn phone, your bill is too high ;)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
JED - The most talented of artist, I thank you for the ANSi's you made
|
|||
|
|
for my members, I hope to see more of your art someday, eh? Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Eel - You are a truly great person, and have foresight, and plan
|
|||
|
|
for the future. Let us hope the rest do the same. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Dark Knight - Thanks for having faith in me, sorry to let you down.
|
|||
|
|
You too are one of the few who seem so loyal. I consider you also a true
|
|||
|
|
friend. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Optical Ilusion - A True loser you are. I hope the bbs world is
|
|||
|
|
rid of you forever.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Navajo - Another truly talented artist, I appreciate the VGA you did.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Cyberpunk - A dedicated person again. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lestat - I remember when I made you a Trial Courier in INC, one of the
|
|||
|
|
first as I recall. I see you made it quite far in there, glad for you man.
|
|||
|
|
You are a really cool person, and allow me to quote TGR, 'You have a killer
|
|||
|
|
accent'. No joke, a genuine accent indeed. Take care man.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SCi-Fi - You Couriered for me for a while. And greeted me in a WARES
|
|||
|
|
release, Norton Commander 4.0, I believe. Greets in return. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Dark Spyre - A backstabber and loser of the highest order. I am sure
|
|||
|
|
others will see that in time. You have earned the rep you have.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Guardian - Was a short stay for you. Good luck my friend.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The PieMaN - You are a cool person, hope things stay well for you.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Axiom Codex - Another true friend out there. Gee, there were more of
|
|||
|
|
you then I thought. That's nice to know. I won't abandon you guys. I will
|
|||
|
|
vacation for a while, then call you. No law against talking to you guys.
|
|||
|
|
Take it safe man.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Tank - Thanks for the ANSi's man, they were your last, I shall remember
|
|||
|
|
them as commemratives.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The NotSoHumble Babe - Everyone gets what they deserve, especially when
|
|||
|
|
they are as stupid as you. Oh well, losers are losers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Shadowalker - Or was it ShadowLord? (grin)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lord Blix - Life is so short. (Where are the rest of the Heart
|
|||
|
|
Breakers?)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Marshall Law - Another talented artist, and I never got my ANSi from
|
|||
|
|
you. What happened? Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
AfterMath - Good luck with V-X man, it's a GREAT software. But be wise,
|
|||
|
|
and don't engauge in such foolish things as did the previous admin. You
|
|||
|
|
are a great guy. Take care.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryec - Good luck with V-X man. I hope to see it continue to thrive, and
|
|||
|
|
win everyone's respect. It is a truly awesome software. And I know it will
|
|||
|
|
get into production now that someone dedicated is in charge.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Zodact - Sorry things didn't work out w/INC. Is Razor dead now too?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That's all the people I can think of. To those I forgot, may you take it
|
|||
|
|
easy, and learn from all this shit. I will quote someone, "You may very
|
|||
|
|
well be witnessing the end of the pirate world". It's no shit. Uncool
|
|||
|
|
thought, but neat to witness it, eh? I hope you all take the message in this
|
|||
|
|
letter seriously. It is no joke man, life is very serious. Good luck to all.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Black SpyriT - Put this in iNSANiTY #4 along with Mike's, will you? I always
|
|||
|
|
promised you an article, here it is ;) Take care After toying with the idea of staying around a bit longer, just to
|
|||
|
|
see what happened, I have decided it is just not worth it. I was probably
|
|||
|
|
one of the most honest "pirates" around and prided myself on that, but
|
|||
|
|
have often gotten myself mixed up with many not-so wholesome people in
|
|||
|
|
the scene. For this reason I am leaving the modeming world (at least in
|
|||
|
|
the sense that we know it) for an indefinate period of time. After taking
|
|||
|
|
the advice of Sought After, to publically announce my departure, I decided
|
|||
|
|
to jump on the bandwagon and release my little farewell. The past year
|
|||
|
|
has been undoubtably the most interesting, if not the most enjoyable of
|
|||
|
|
my life. I will always have something to tell my children and grandchildren
|
|||
|
|
at the dinner table.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I have personally been involved with many great groups, and have
|
|||
|
|
had the oppurtunity to meet some great people in the scene. For those of
|
|||
|
|
you reading this who don't know me, I will let you know a little about my
|
|||
|
|
career in the modeming world.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It all started back in late spring of 1991... I had always considered
|
|||
|
|
myself a decent artist (or so I had been told) and had dabbled with computer
|
|||
|
|
artwork off and on through my recent past. After seeing iCENEWS#1, calling
|
|||
|
|
for new VGA artists, I applied and luckily got it. I quickly became friends
|
|||
|
|
with Frozen Tormentor (then president and founder of Insane Creators
|
|||
|
|
Enterprises, the ansi/vga group) and continued to do VGA, and one or two
|
|||
|
|
ansi pictures. Eventually I became VP of the group, and after FT decided
|
|||
|
|
to leave the scene, I became president. It was during this time I broke
|
|||
|
|
away from the "who the hell is this guy" to the "hey I know who that is."
|
|||
|
|
My board had become quite successful, as Spyrit's Crypt a Celerity board,
|
|||
|
|
and I was always looking for ways to improve it, so I hunted for a cracking
|
|||
|
|
group, and found a fledgling (on the PC) group, Razor 1911. I ended up
|
|||
|
|
being a site and it all took off from there. From then I became great
|
|||
|
|
friends with the Razor guys, and stuck with them through the good and the
|
|||
|
|
bad times... Up until now, I have been involved with many projects and groups
|
|||
|
|
including: iCE, ACiD, Insanity, INC (for a few days at least), Razor 1911
|
|||
|
|
and numerous side deals along the way...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Many people have befriended me throughout my days in the scene, and
|
|||
|
|
many have given me chances that I am very greatful for... I will now take
|
|||
|
|
a little time to thank all those that made this past year something to
|
|||
|
|
remember.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- All the callers, uploaders, posters and supporters of Spyrit's Crypt
|
|||
|
|
who helped make it one of the best boards around, I thank you and wish
|
|||
|
|
all of you the best of luck.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Zodact: My friend my son, you have been there for me too many times to
|
|||
|
|
count, late nights, early mornings, it was the best. Razor 1911 will
|
|||
|
|
remain a legacy in my mind forever, and I only hope we can continue it
|
|||
|
|
together sometime down the road in the real world. Take care, thanks for
|
|||
|
|
giving me the chance you did, I have and always will think of you as a
|
|||
|
|
great friend.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Kingpin: You have always been a cool guy to talk with, and an excellent
|
|||
|
|
artist... I may not like Iron Maiden, but I guess it goes to show you that
|
|||
|
|
tastes don't have to get in the way of a friendship...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Frozen Tormentor: I never really had much of a chance to talk with you
|
|||
|
|
one on one, too bad you seemed like a cool guy and iCE will undoubtably
|
|||
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live forever. Lastly however, I am not a backstabber as you have pictured
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me and just want to say... at least talk to someone before you decide what
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their intentions are.
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- Rad Man: Ansi... not much to fall back on into the real world, during
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the chats we had however, you have been a cool guy. ACiD was probably the
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best thing to happen to ANSI and I'm glad I had a part in it...
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- The Cracksmith: I didn't get to know you very well, but what I did get
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to know was a very cool person. Too bad we werent on the same side for
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more than a few days, it could have been fun...
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- Cool Hand: Can't say that I had much of a relationship with you either,
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but from the times we did converse, I'd say you were an alright guy.
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From all the people in the scene, I must say you were always dedicated,
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(perhaps a bit too much) and I respect you for that...
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- Sought After: The heartbreakers eh? what a lovely name... We had some
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fun times, and all in all you are quite a cool guy... I better not say
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anything bad or I might have a different phone number tommorow right? right?
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Hah... I am taking your advice though as you can see...
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- Hyperion: You were one of the nicest guys that I knew. That pretty much
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sums it up... You were there for us all the times we needed someone and
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I thank you for that, I wish I had gotten to know you even more than I have,
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Razor 1911, Insanity, you did a great job on both...
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- The Byter: Celerity, a legacy in the BBS world for sure. You always have
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had the best and newest features first, and I am glad I had the oppurtunity
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to run such a well crafted program.
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- The Rengegade Chemist: I only wish you were in Razor during it's prime
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last year, you were a devoted member, and a nice guy to chat with. I'm
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sure I will talk to you in the future...
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- Genesis: Well even thought I only got one article out of ya, all that time
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I appreciate any effort you were able to give... You were another one of
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those "devoted" people, and were quite a humerous individual.
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- Darwin: What can I say? A great friend, I only wish I had more time to
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work with you on projects. You are a great programmer and should never
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let that talent go to waste... We are only an ocean apart, lets get together
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some time and chat over tea...
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- Lord of Peasants: You were the key behind making Insanity as great as it
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was, you are a great programmer, and I hope you never lose sight of that.
|
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Thank you for devoting the time you did to making the magazine so special.
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- The Grim Reaper, Line Noise, Paladin, The Eel, TomKat, Doctor No,
|
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Force Ten, Golden One, Kublai Khan, All the iCE and ACiD artists,
|
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|
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Bryn Rogers, Night Ranger, Gnarly Beast, Sector9, Uriel, All the
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Razor 1911 members, couriers and supporters.
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- And all the people I am to tired to remember, sorry if I forgot you,
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its been a real tough day, but you all know how thankful I am already
|
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for sure...
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Farewell from:
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Black Spyrit: Razor 1911, ACiD, Insanity
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Spyrit's Crypt: Razor 1911 World Headquarters
|
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ACiD Eastern Agora
|
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Rescue Raider Eastern Headquarters
|
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Insanity Magazine Home
|
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"To my friends in the scene, and those I don't even know"
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Well, I know that the header looks cheesy, but what the fuck.
|
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|
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Anyway. I am sure that all of you have read all the little
|
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|
|
text files floating around from Black SpyriT, Sought After, The
|
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Eel, and others. Well, here is one to add to the collection.
|
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I, "The Renegade Chemist" resign from the scene NOW. I have
|
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had a real blast in the 4 or 5 years that I have been messing
|
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|
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around with computers and modems. And I have learned a lot, and
|
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|
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met a lot of great people. But I think that it is high time to
|
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"hang it up" for reality.
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I know it may sound really lame, but I am scared. I am not
|
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|
|
even as big a figure as TNSHB or TGR or SI or BS, but I am really
|
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|
|
truly afraid of getting caught in this game. Sure, I have enjoyed
|
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|
|
it, starting from a lamer with the handle "Fletch Lives", moving
|
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|
|
up towards a higher status in ModemLand. A lot of people have
|
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|
|
helped me / hurt me on my way up, but all in all I appreciate all
|
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|
|
of the criticisms, constructive and destructive.
|
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|
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|
|
Anyhow, I am cutting this short and to the point to save your
|
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|
|
sanity ( after reading that 20k one from Sought After, hehe) ).
|
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|
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|
|
Black Light - Hey man, we had fun, didn't we? Let's hang out
|
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sometime ( like we wouldn't, hehe ).
|
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|
|
Chairman - Sorry that things are not going to work out with APeX.
|
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|
|
I really would like to help, but things are getting too hot
|
|||
|
|
for me. I suggest that you go back to the way Suburbia was,
|
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|
|
and not worry about it either. I am sure I will see you soon.
|
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|
|
Zodact - Funny how we met again after all those years ( well,
|
|||
|
|
one or two anyway ). I wish that it could have been on
|
|||
|
|
better circimstances for Razor at the time, but hey, life's
|
|||
|
|
a bitch ( and the scene even moreso ). I know that we
|
|||
|
|
will still talk alot and maybe I will even see you in college.
|
|||
|
|
Maybe you can come down here for Spring Break, who knows.
|
|||
|
|
Anyway, Razor 1911 ( at least the cracking part! ) was fun
|
|||
|
|
while it lasted. Hopefully we can continue the tradition
|
|||
|
|
in the real world.
|
|||
|
|
Black SpyriT - Well man.. its been great working with you in
|
|||
|
|
the past weeks, and hopefully we can continue in the future.
|
|||
|
|
Need I say more?
|
|||
|
|
Tarl Cabot - I feel like I owe you a lot, man. Out of nowhere
|
|||
|
|
you showed up to help us out w/a courier system, and set it
|
|||
|
|
up in record time. I appreciate all the hard work you put
|
|||
|
|
in to make it work, and if you ever need a favor, just ask.
|
|||
|
|
The task you are taking on yourself of organizing ( hmm.. )
|
|||
|
|
right now is a great one, but not impossible. I wish you
|
|||
|
|
luck, but one thing - be careful, my friend. It's really
|
|||
|
|
not worth it. Talk to you soon.
|
|||
|
|
Force Ten - Well, SDA has been good to me, and I appreciate all
|
|||
|
|
of the work that you and the top members have put into it.
|
|||
|
|
Also, TCSNet is and will always be the best pirate network
|
|||
|
|
( in my eyes... ). Good luck with Revelation. Also, if you
|
|||
|
|
see an ANSi done by me that says "SDA" on it every now and
|
|||
|
|
then, well, I don't want to get bored.
|
|||
|
|
The Master - Well dude. What to say. You were there in CWF
|
|||
|
|
from the beginning, and I appreciate that. You're a good
|
|||
|
|
guy, and I hope that you and Rick can get it together with
|
|||
|
|
Revelation and TCSNet. Sorry being a Razor 1911 courier
|
|||
|
|
did not work out for you, but I think that you took a bet-
|
|||
|
|
ter path anyway. Good luck.
|
|||
|
|
Prizm - Yeah, Yeah. Even you. I know that we had a falling
|
|||
|
|
out not that far back, and I am sincerely sorry for anything
|
|||
|
|
that I said or did to piss you off. I know that some of the
|
|||
|
|
things I said were totally unnecessary and uncool, but you
|
|||
|
|
still have a short fuse. Take it easy, man.
|
|||
|
|
Sicko ( NOT of The BoG! ) - Well man. I know that you probab-
|
|||
|
|
ly think that I dicked you over, and that's fine. I really
|
|||
|
|
did not intend to, but that is the way that it worked out
|
|||
|
|
in the end. The pirate world is a brutal place, no? Anyhow,
|
|||
|
|
wish you luck with your wife and hope there will be lots
|
|||
|
|
of little Sickos running around real soon.
|
|||
|
|
Intrepid - Bastard with Rush tickets. Oh well. Keep up your
|
|||
|
|
programming, you really have talent. Don't forget that.
|
|||
|
|
Chat w/ya sometime soon.
|
|||
|
|
LL Cool J - Hey dude. You have been a good friend for months
|
|||
|
|
now, and I appreciate you letting me leech megs and megs
|
|||
|
|
'o shit off of ABC to satisfy my wares-hunger ( especially
|
|||
|
|
at 2400 baud for a while! hehe ). I am sure I will still
|
|||
|
|
talk to you. Take it easy.
|
|||
|
|
X-Terminator - Hey, didn't talk to you very much, but you
|
|||
|
|
seemed a cool guy. Don't get busted doing anything dumb,
|
|||
|
|
and get plenty of pussy. Later man.
|
|||
|
|
CrackSmith - Well Drew. I only talked to you a few times, and
|
|||
|
|
me and Freddy and you all chowed down at that Chinese place.
|
|||
|
|
Hey, pretty good food. We should go again sometime. While
|
|||
|
|
I know that we did not really get along real well in the
|
|||
|
|
scene, it doesn't have to be that way outside of it.
|
|||
|
|
Cool Hand - We had a lot of our differences out on the boards,
|
|||
|
|
and I relished all of the exchanges that took place. It was
|
|||
|
|
a lot of fun, but that's all it was, so don't take any of
|
|||
|
|
that crap personally. Later man, and remember you have a
|
|||
|
|
family to worry about.
|
|||
|
|
The Unknown - Traitor ( hehe ). Good luck as the best INC
|
|||
|
|
courier around. But don't do it after you get a license and
|
|||
|
|
a car. Women are better.
|
|||
|
|
Merlin - You and I were once good friends, and recently I
|
|||
|
|
tried to open my mind and once again become your friend.
|
|||
|
|
However, it seems my first judgement was right - you are
|
|||
|
|
nothing but a spoiled and immature brat, and will never be
|
|||
|
|
any more until someone slaps you in the face and wakes you
|
|||
|
|
up.
|
|||
|
|
Stiletto - Hey man, sorry that your status as a Razor courier
|
|||
|
|
didn't last too long. But I am sure that I will have a
|
|||
|
|
chance to talk to you about that sometime. Later, man.
|
|||
|
|
Mad Hatter ( of iCE-TNO ) - Heh. Thanks for that informative
|
|||
|
|
email the other day. Have a good one, man.
|
|||
|
|
Old CWF crew - Well guys. Sorry to have let you down back
|
|||
|
|
then, and best of luck in the future.
|
|||
|
|
Hyperion - Didn't talk to you a whole lot, but from when I
|
|||
|
|
did, you seemed like a great guy. I am sorry about what
|
|||
|
|
happened, and I sincerely hope that you are better off in
|
|||
|
|
the future. Good luck.
|
|||
|
|
The Elemental - We have had our differences in the past, but
|
|||
|
|
Cypher really is great software. Good luck.
|
|||
|
|
The Weeze - Hehe. Kinda funny that this should happen right
|
|||
|
|
after I drop you my voice number and such so that we could
|
|||
|
|
work together on some pics. Anyway, keep up the good work
|
|||
|
|
and take it easy man. If you are still interested, gimme
|
|||
|
|
a ring.
|
|||
|
|
Freddy Krueger - Well Sean, we had our good times and our bad
|
|||
|
|
times, and I'm sorry I didn't grab that drive from you. Per-
|
|||
|
|
haps some other unknowing soul will be taken for it :).
|
|||
|
|
Spread - Met ya on Revelation, and you run a great board. You
|
|||
|
|
will probably still find me leeching on there every now and
|
|||
|
|
then. Take it easy, man.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All the old Razor team, friends in the scene that I may have
|
|||
|
|
forgotten, and hell with it even people I don't know -
|
|||
|
|
Take it easy dudes, and remember that the scene is a big
|
|||
|
|
game. To quote Zodact, "The scene is a game, but when the
|
|||
|
|
game gets to the point that you either win on a release or
|
|||
|
|
get thrown in jail, it gets too risky." Also remember
|
|||
|
|
that these computers were not originally designed for what
|
|||
|
|
we use them for a lot of the time - learn something useful,
|
|||
|
|
make this expensive hardware worth the money you shelled
|
|||
|
|
out for it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Goodbye, all!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Renegade Chemist
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
[Razor 1911 Member]
|
|||
|
|
[SDA Artist]
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|