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Xref: ivgate sci.crypt:304 comp.org.eff.talk:9668
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Path: ivgate!uunet!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!nagle
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From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
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Subject: Re: Prof. D. Denning's trust in the FBI
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Message-ID: <nagleC4L3tv.8y8@netcom.com>
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Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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References: <1oo160$41k@transfer.stratus.com> <1993Mar25.151709.4797@eff.org>
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 05:41:55 GMT
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Dave Banisar <Banisar@washofc.cpsr.org> writes:
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>In article <nagleC4DMnG.1wz@netcom.com> John Nagle, nagle@netcom.com
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>writes:
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>> None of what commentators? The 1976 Congressional study on
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>>wiretapping has a sizable list of known abuses. I should have generated
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>>a reply to her paper, but I assumed the EFF or CPSR would cover this issue,
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>>since I know that Mike Godwin and Mark Rotenberg are well aware of the
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>>literature on wiretapping abuse.
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>Actually Dorothy was factually incorrect on that point. Marc specifically
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>mentioned abuses by the govt going into the 70s. Dorothy either didnt see
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>it or chose to ignore it.
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And here are the references, which I have also sent to Denning as mail:
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Following are the citations for the 1976 study. Any depository
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library should have these materials on microfiche. Check fiche
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Y 3.W 74/2:2 H 35/v.1-2.
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You can find further materials on this subject by using the
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CD-ROM database available at all depository libraries. Just try
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"WIRETAPPING" as a keyword. Ten minutes should give you the references
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here plus others.
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There is an Office of Technology Assessment study dated 1985 which
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you might find of interest, since you have been complaining that the
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1976 study is too old. This is "Surveilance - historical policy review
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(Technical proposal US 84-10/12)" by Herman Schwartz, U.S. Congress,
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Office of Technology Assessment, 1985. Again, this can be found in any
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depository library, at fiche Y 3.T 22/2:2 Su 7/3. Pages 89-90 cite
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illegal wiretapping by law enforcement organizations including the NYPD,
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the Houston police (testimony by Carrol Lynn, Chief of Police, Houston TX,
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hearings on wiretapping, before Subcommitee on Courts, Civil Liberties,
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of House Judiciary Committee, 94th Cong., 1st sess., at 406 (1975))
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the Chicago police, the Pensylvania State Police, the New Haven police,
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(NYT, Jan 25, 1977, p. 37) and the Williamsport (PA) police. More detailed
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citations are available in the report. And these are only the ones that
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surfaced in press reports or Congressional testimony.
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Bear in mind that criminal activity by law enforcement tends not to
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be talked about. Yet we do see considerable evidence that such illegal
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wiretapping does go on.
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John Nagle
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The citations below are from the Stanford library catalog system.
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Heading 19) Title: Supporting Materials for the Report of the ... (4 citations)
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Citation 19.1 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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TITLE: Commission studies.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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xii, 240 p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH ACR LLu
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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OTHER: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Consists of studies prepared for the National Commission for the
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Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance.
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Bibliography: p. 213-215.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7499 (Books) AJG9050 (NOTIS)
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Citation 19.2 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Commission hearings.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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2 v. (xiv, 1664 p.) : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDc
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Transcriptions of hearings conducted by the Commission and held Sept.
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16, 1974-June 27, 1975 in Washington.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7442 (Books) AJG8994 (NOTIS)
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Citation 19.3 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Staff studies and surveys.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print Off., 1976.
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xiv, 552 p. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDs
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7439 (Books) AJG8991 (NOTIS)
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Citation 19.4 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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TITLE: Law Enforcement Effectiveness Conference, Washington, D.C., 1974.
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Law Enforcement Effectiveness Conference.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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xv, 97 p. : diagr. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH ALG AHm
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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OTHER: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States--Congresses.
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Eavesdropping--United States--Congresses.
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Electronic surveillance--United States--Congresses.
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NOTES: Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7277 (Books) AJG8829 (NOTIS)
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Heading 20) Title: Electronic Surveillance Report of the Nation... (1 citation)
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Citation 20.1 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Electronic surveillance : report of the National Commission for the
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Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance.
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IMPRINT: Washington : The Commission, 1976.
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xix, 272 p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDg
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TOPICS: Eavesdropping--United States.
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Wire-tapping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Includes bibliographical references.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7440 (Books) AJG8992 (NOTIS)
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Heading 21) Author: United States National Commission for the ... (5 citations)
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Citation 21.1 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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TITLE: Commission studies.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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xii, 240 p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH ACR LLu
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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OTHER: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Consists of studies prepared for the National Commission for the
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Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance.
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Bibliography: p. 213-215.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7499 (Books) AJG9050 (NOTIS)
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Citation 21.2 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Commission hearings.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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2 v. (xiv, 1664 p.) : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDc
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Transcriptions of hearings conducted by the Commission and held Sept.
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16, 1974-June 27, 1975 in Washington.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7442 (Books) AJG8994 (NOTIS)
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Citation 21.3 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Electronic surveillance : report of the National Commission for the
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Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance.
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IMPRINT: Washington : The Commission, 1976.
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xix, 272 p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDg
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TOPICS: Eavesdropping--United States.
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Wire-tapping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Includes bibliographical references.
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Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7440 (Books) AJG8992 (NOTIS)
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Citation 21.4 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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AUTHOR: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TITLE: Staff studies and surveys.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print Off., 1976.
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xiv, 552 p. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH AUS XDs
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States.
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Eavesdropping--United States.
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Electronic surveillance--United States.
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NOTES: Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7439 (Books) AJG8991 (NOTIS)
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Citation 21.5 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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TITLE: Law Enforcement Effectiveness Conference, Washington, D.C., 1974.
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Law Enforcement Effectiveness Conference.
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IMPRINT: Washington : National Commission for the Review of Federal and State
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Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance : for sale
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by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1976.
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xv, 97 p. : diagr. ; 26 cm.
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LOCATION: Law BH ALG AHm
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SERIES: Supporting materials for the Report of the National Commission for
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the Review of Federal and State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and
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Electronic Surveillance
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OTHER: United States. National Commission for the Review of Federal and
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State Laws Relating to Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance.
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TOPICS: Wire-tapping--United States--Congresses.
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Eavesdropping--United States--Congresses.
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Electronic surveillance--United States--Congresses.
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NOTES: Language: English Year: 1976
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Item CSUL89-B7277 (Books) AJG8829 (NOTIS)
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