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Pliny the Younger (62-114 A.D.) wrte letters to Tarjan in 112 A.D. and
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these are sometimes used to prove Jesus's exsistance. In a letter to
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the Emperor Tarjan in 112 A.D. asking for instructions about how to deal
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with the Christians in the area of the Roman Empire that had been
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goverened, he describes the then current ceremonies and practices.
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Problems: No one debates the fact that Christians worshipped back
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then and that they had elaborate ceremonies and such so
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it is useless in discussing the historicity of Jesus
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because it does not talk of his EXSISTANCE. This letter
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cannot be used to prove Jesus's Exsistance.
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Thallus works are lost but Julius Africanus in the 3rd century quotes
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Thallus's works and in his works Jesus's death is accompanied by an
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Earthquake and an unusual darkness that Thallus, according to Africanus,
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wrongly attributes to an eclipse of the sun. However, we have no clear
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idea when Thallus wrote his history or how accurate Africanus's account
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is.
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Problems: No indication on this man Thallus other than he wrote as
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late as the 2nd century. His works could EASILY have
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been copied by others. Scholars widely accept this as
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useless data when concerning Jesus's Historicity.
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Flavius Josephus who wrote "The Antiquites of the Jews" wrote a passage
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that is by far the most quoted to PROVE that Jesus actually exsisted.
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It talkes of Jesus as such:
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"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
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call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works - a teacher of such
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men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many
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of the Jews and many of the gentiles. He was the Christ; and when
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Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
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him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
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for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
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prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
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concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
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extinct at this day."
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Problems: This passage is almost entirely accepted as a forgery
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because of several things. First of all, Josephus was a
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Jew and he would have NEVER referred to this man as the
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"Christ". Next is that when this passage is taken IN
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CONTEXT with the chapter it does not fit. It looks
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perfectly like an insert. And lastly, Josephus would not
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have talked about Jesus in such a way because orthodox
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Jews (which he was) would not believe what he wrote and
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neither would he.
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The Talmund which was written primarily in the 1st to 2nd centuries A.D.
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is also another source which is quoted to prove that Jesus exsisted.
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The Talmund mentions a man named "Yeshu the Nazerene" who practiced
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Magic and commited heresy in the reigh of Alexander Jannaeus. Some of
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his 'disciples' that are listed with him are also party correlary with
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the disciples of Jesus.
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Problems: Yeshu the Nazerene lived during the reign of Alexander
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Jannaeus who lived during 104-78 B.C. There is no way
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this could have been Jesus that is talked of in the
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bible.
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The Bible is another source that is quoted to prove that Jesus exsisted
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for it has a few details of dates and times and possibly can be used as
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a historical source.
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Problems: The 4 accounts of Jesus's life are so framentary and
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in-correct that they cannot possible have any useful
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(** Cont **)
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