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These messages were captured from Telenet PC-Pursuit NET-EXCHANGE BBS...
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Msg # 6028 Dated 02-27-88 21:48:34
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From: MICHAEL MURRAY
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To: ALL
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Re: LOOKS LIKE A HACKER
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I've encountered a certain situation twice in the past week that leaves
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me with a few questions. Upon connecting to my Telenet indial node, in
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between attempts to connect to either a Telenet service or outdial
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modem, I've gotten the following message:
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CONNECTION FROM 301 18A
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The first time this happened, whoever was on the other end began typing
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several obscenities. Tonight when this happened, the person attempted
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to generate a false "@" prompt. Whoever was doing this was trying to
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lure me into typing in my PCP acct and password. Sure enough, when I fed
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the prompt a made-up acct, hit return...I got back what I know was a
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misleading prompt.
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I don't think my acct/pw got to him/her, but it scares me that someone
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can make such a connection. I called up the Telenet service number to
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report this, but all I was told is that nothing can be done except to
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change the password, at MY expense. Anybody else have this happen to
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them?
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Mike
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Msg # 6057 Dated 02-28-88 09:47:49
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From: IMA HACKER-
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To: ALL
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Re: IMPORTANT
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The *PCP HACKERS* are working to show PCP what we think of their awful
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service and policies. We have been STEALING PCP IDs and PWs and using
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them. We can HACK into TELENET and connect to your indial modem without
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you even knowing it. Then we watch you hammer at a distant modem with
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those dialing scripts and it fills our screen with your pw and id. You
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don't see your pw but *WE DO* and we have hundreds of PCP IDs and PWs.
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Your TELENET *CONTRACT* makes YOU responsible for all charges to your
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ID, and PCP just sent out bills from back in September! We want more
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outdial modems and less BUSY. We want responsive Customer Service. We
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want a realistic CONTRACT, 300 and 2400 baud. SCREW PCP until then!!!
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Msg # 6062 Dated 02-28-88 12:59:42
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From: TONY WADDELL
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To: IMA HACKER-
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Re: (R)IMPORTANT
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I don't know if message #6057 is for real or not ( I find some of the
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claims hard to believe ), but perhaps PC-Pursuit should make it just a
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little easier for users to change their passwords. I understand it's
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quite a nose bleed to get one changed.
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Msg # 6072 Dated 02-27-88 15:45:04
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From: LEE RIMAR
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To: TOM WADDELL
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Re: PASSWORD CHANGES
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TW> I don't know if message #6057 is for real or not (I find some of
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TW> the claims hard to believe) . . .
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(regarding a message on "hacking" PC-Pursuit)
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.
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I just called Customer Service and expressed concern about it.
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Unfortunately, they say it's entirely possible. And that they're
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working on the problem.
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TW> Perhaps PC-Pursuit should make it just a little easier for users
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TW> to change their passwords. I understand it's quite a nose bleed
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TW> to get one changed.
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.
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That was not my experience. I changed mine last Monday. Took
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less than 10 minutes on the phone (the 1-800-TELENET number), and
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the new id/password was in effect immediately.
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.LDR
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Msg # 6073 Dated 02-27-88 15:46:13
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From: LEE RIMAR
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To: IMA HACKER
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Re: YOUR INTENTIONS
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You claim your aim is to get better customer service from Telenet,
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more modems, et al. Has it ever occured to you that your "screw the
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system" attitude may be causing more trouble than it solves? Screwing
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up Telenet's ability to provide service seems unlikely to result in
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better service.
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That's always struck me as an argument against violent revolts;
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from socialist to anarchist. Patterned after my comment above:
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Blowing up a rich man's house does not put a roof over a poor man's
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head. See you in the Issues area if you care to debate it.
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.LDR
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Msg # 6074 Dated 02-27-88 16:04:02
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From: JAMES NORTH
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To: ALL
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Re: ID PASSWORD SNACTCHING
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If password pirates are able to steal PC Pursuit ids and passwords,then
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it is possible for them to steal the ids and passwords of business
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users that use the Telenet network. Such stolen ids and passwords would
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enable such pirates to make illegal international data calls at someone
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else's expense. THE ENTIRE TELENET PACKET SWITCHING NETWORK MAY BE IN
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DANGER! If this is true, hopefully there is someway that Telenet can
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correct this security problem. We could see the termination of the PC
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Pursuit service because of this!
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Msg # 6076 Dated 02-27-88 16:21:29
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From: BOB FREED
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To: TONY WADDELL
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Re: (R)IMPORTANT
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Re: 6057, 6062
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It's for real. I've gotten a new user id and two new passwords in the
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past two weeks because of this situation. It's not true that these
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jokers can intercept your session completely undetected, though. If
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you see a message such as "CONNECTION FROM xxx yyy", disconnect
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immediately or contact customer service on a second line.
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Msg # 6077 Dated 02-27-88 16:28:08
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From: BOB FREED
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To: IMA HACKER-
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Re: (R)IMPORTANT
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Re: 6057
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As I see it, the only thing you're accomplishing is to destroy this
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system completely. I'm sure we won't see any of the things you
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mentioned (more outdial modems, less BUSY, responsive service, better
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contract, 300 and 2400 bps) any sooner if Telenet has to spend
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considerable time and effort plugging leaks in their security. In fact,
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we may never see them at all. Here's hoping they catch you soon....
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