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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2 ************************* INSTALLED: 28 MAR 85 *********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 I can't believe this, first phone line problems, and now modem problems
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21 What the heck is going on around here anyway?!!
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22 Have patients, if it doesn't answer, try again later, the modem seems
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23 to be getting hung up in an intermittent state everyonce in a while.
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24 It isn't suppose to be possible for it to do that, so I'm really shooting
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25 in the dark on this one. Also, I don't understand why it should start doing
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26 this after working flawlessly for years! It might have something to do with
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27 the phone line problems, since it started right after this last fix that
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28 the phone company did, whatever it was. But, I'm working on it, so it'll
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29 get fixed sooner or later.
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30 ****************************** CISTOP MIKEY *******************************
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31 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
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32 MICKY; HAVE YOU HEARD OF SO-CALLED "PASSIVE STUFF" ACQUIRING AI?
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33 CAT-I D : DON'T BE CRUEL, DON'T YOU KNOW THAT A REASONABLE NUMBER OF
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34 FLEAS IS GOOD FOR A CAT. THAT REMIND ME OF ONE ETHNIC WEDDING WHERE
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35 THE FLIES FLEE; AND THE FLEAS FLY.
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36 N-O-I.
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37 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
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38 *********************************ANYONE*********************************
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39 Anyone out their who's working with analog/digital conversion with PC's
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40 in relation to music reproduction and modification?
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41 ************************************************************************
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42 ATDT92301041
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43 Sort of interesting the effect this board has on people: we have
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44 numerous, un-named twits who create a sort of siege mentality; we have a
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45 few writers who write once or twice, and receive no o
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46 comments save negative ones, and we have mutual appreciation society, where
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47 old-timers continually congratulate one another on their entries. Some
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48 people take this ritual praise as truth, which leads me to advise one who
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49 is "boycotting" BW that her writing isn't quite as good as she believes.
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50 If you enjoy writing, good, but you haven't shown anything of publishable
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51 quality yet. You have potential, but you have to re-work the stories; they
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52 show serious neglect of spelling and punctutation. Proper grammar may not
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53 get you published, but lack of it will certainly throw your stories into
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54 the "slush-pile".... Advice from a pro
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55
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56 WHAT IS THAT ABOVE? THE TRUTH? OMIGOSH. SOMEONE HAS THE COURAGE
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57 TO SPEAK IT. I THOUGHT THAT NOT POSSIBLE. THE FEINT PRAISE THAT
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58 HAS BECOME THE NORM HERE OF LATE HAS MADE MANY OF THE OLD FOLKS
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59 SICK TO DEATH. PRO, YOUR ADVICE STRIKES A NERVE. IT CREATES ITS
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60 OWN SENSE OF WORTH. THE SLUSH-PILE SWIMS WITH UNTOLD NUMBERS OF
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61 SUCH WORKS. DON'T LUMP ALL OLD TIMERS TOGETHER, LEST YOU INSULT
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62 THOSE WHO DON'T TAKE PART IN THE MUTUAL BACK PATTING AND FEET
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63 KISSING THAT GOES ON HERE. TO QUOTE THAT AS-YET-NOT-FAMOUS AND
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64 CURRENT BACK WATER BOYCOTTER, "ANY THING COULD HAPPEN. AND WHY?
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65
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66 make no sense what soever. i tossed my cookies to.
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67
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68 PRO: YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!! OF THE MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY!!!
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69 OF COURSE A FOOL ALWAYS FINDS A GREATER FOOL TO ADMIRE HER AND HER COOK
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70 IES>>>>>>> BRAVO.......
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71 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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72 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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73
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74 Once we were proud. T e proudest country in t e world. We spoke of
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75 freedom, nd of ppiness; we d f it in our bility to send s ips to t e
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76 moon, to build cities under t e se . No one ever t lks bout t t kind of
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77 stuff ny more. No-one remembers but me, nd soon I too will become like
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78 t is typewriter, old nd err tic, wit oles in my memory w ere t e wind
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79 w istles t roug .
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80 For ye rs we d wondered if it could ever ppen- if t e destructive
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81 power of our nucle r we pons would ever be rele sed. I remember re ding
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82 bout town c lled iros im . T e site of t e first tom bomb. Nobody in
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83 J p n would m rry someone from iros im . No one in meric ever t lked bout
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84 it. We were too s med.
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85 W t's left of us now? I'm sitting on t e floor of n old ouse. ctu lly,
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86 it w s t e b sement- t e m in floor w s destroyed by t e firestorms fter
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87 t e missiles fell. I pulled s eets of pl stic over t e top to m ke
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88 s elter. I live ere wit my f mily- or, t le st, t e people I c ll my
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89 f mily. Ric es to r gs, t t's t e story I ve to tell.
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90 TO BE CONTINUED
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91 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~t e vole~~~~~~~~~~
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92
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93 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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94
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95 Winter comes, its silent
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96 death
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97 That poisons sweet
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98 perfume
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99 Flowers once happy,
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100 now are crawling,
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101 Slowly to their doom.
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102
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103 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPTIMIST
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104 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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105 "After the thing was all over, when peril had ceased to loom, and
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106 happy endings had been distributed in heaping handfuls, and we were driving
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107 home with our hats on the side of our heads, having shaken the dust of
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108 Steeple Bumpleigh from our tyres, I confessed to Jeeves that there had
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109 been moments during the recent preoceedings, when Bertram Wooster, though
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110 no weakling, had come very near to despair."
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111 -P.G. Wodehouse, from "Jeeves in the Morning"
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112 Does anyone else like this stuff? I find it tremendously
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113 exhilarating, and dashed good fun.
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114 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@BERTIE@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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115 Mig: pay close attention to "t e vole"'s entry. Notice anything interesting
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116 about it?
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117 ________________________________Leonard____________________________________
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118 TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT T_WIT
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119 ON BEHALF OF SOME OF THE TWITS, THERE IS A LOT OF VERY GOOD TALAENT AT THE
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120 INN AND NOT ALL COMMENTS SHOULD BE NEGITIVE.
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121 TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIPT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT TWIT
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122 ..........................................................................
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123 Entropy in the Morning
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124
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125 tick tock
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126 tag is knocking
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127 kitten in the window wanting in
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128
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129 morning talking
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130 kitten knocking
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131 somewhere walking in my dreams
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132 .............................................Entropy.......................
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133 _______________________________________________________________________
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134
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135 I seriously like what this system is used for, and would just like to
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136 express my feelings.
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137 Of course you know, not many systems are like this, but there must
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138 be room in this world for the original too.
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139 I happen to be a reader of Issac Aismov, and enjoy his style of
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140 writing. I happen to read quite a bit of him and my writing (not so much of
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141 this as my stories and editorials) has been influenced and shaped by his.
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142 Sort of pathetic, isn't it?
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143 Someday, I must type in one of my stories. No doubts in my mind that
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144 you esteemed Editors out there shall tear it to tiny shreds of low
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145 quality, recycled snot wipe but then how does one learn??? How does one
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146 become decient??? O.k.??? Mabye even (Gasp!!) GOOD!!???? Only with
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147 extreme luck.
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148 Well, my friends, I have wasted enough of your reading time, and
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149 have probally violated many taboos you have established here without
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150 my knoweldege. My heartfelt apoliges if I have.
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151
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152 Till another time......
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153 _________________________________________________________junior____________
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154
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155 ::::::::::::O O:::::::::23:22::::::::::::::::::03/28:::::::::O O:::::::::::
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156 Leonard: I took another look at t h vole's entry. I'm not sure what you
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157 are getting at, but I noticed that his erratic As and Hs are erratic in
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158 their erraticism. (erraticity?) Most of the time the faulty keys send
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159 a space, but occasionally (usually at the beginning of a word), there is
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160 no letter And no space for it. I myself suspect a fraud. If a keyboard
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161 is missing those two letters, it would be difficult to type commands to the
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162 computer, or load a terminal program, or much of anything. Just the sort
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163 of thing anonymity allows the stranger sort to experiment with. Harumph.
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164 ::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::
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165 -------------------
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166
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167 ****youcan'tpleaseallthepeopleallthetime*****byebye****kathyd**************
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168 XXXABC
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169 166...
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170 HAMMERHAMMERHAMMERHAMMERHAMMERHAMMERTHOR
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171 As THOR sat at the INN he could hardly believe his ears. From the dark
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172 shadows came howls and hoots from unnamed critics of the people visiting
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173 the INN. They seem to feel the need to excoriate the talents that frequent
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174 the INN as if their disparagements were the absolute word of 'GOD'.
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175 THOR felt that these poltroons needs to animadvert toward decent scriveners
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176 only supported their true colors. It was so easy to castigate anonymously.
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177 Like some braying cow whose only recourse is to make noise because it does
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178 not have the intelligence to speak. At least a cow will show itself. What
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179 manner of mestizo could say such an impiety. Could it be jealousy,
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180 false ego, covetousness, or maybe just an inability to give praise for at
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181 least the attempts made. As THOR knew that the patrons at the INN were
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182 not emolumented for their efforts
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183 then who could critisize whenthem when the critics were not giving
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184 'quid pro quo'. If their stories were not of some peoples taste then there
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185 was no need to 'obiter dictum' unless it was their intent to be a
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186 'persona non grata'.
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187 THOR was glad that they hid in the shadows for he knew that it would be
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188 difficult for him to control the monster that he had put away inside a
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189 dark hole in his heart. 'CAVE CANEM', these words meant a lot to THOR and
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190 he best not allow its release. For certainly it was an animal that could
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191 not be controlled. THOR enjoyed the hostelry and its known and good patrons
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192 and he hoped that for their sake that he did not discover who the nameless
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193 ones were, only that their attacks ceased.
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194 THORTHOR-'AVE ATQUE VALE'-THORTHORTHOR
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195
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196 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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197 Thor -- please, I believe you owe my milk cow, Lassie, an apology. Lassie
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198 only moos when she wants to be fed a treat (whenever my truck pulls up) or
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199 when she has come into heat. Being compared to self-styled critics whose
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200 pathetic attempts at acid wit result in a ph of 7, would surely curdle her milk.
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201 Experience has shown that the most effective way of dealing with most of
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202 these socially retarded folks is to simply consider the source when seeing
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203 the messages and tune them out. The mentality is not unlike that of the
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204 vandal who chops down a tree in order to deny shad to anyone else. Typically
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205 those who indulge in gratuitous verbal attacks on others with whom they have
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206 very little contact are displaying how little they value themselves. The
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207 attacks are really displays of their own feelings about who and what they
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208 feel they really are. The person who is attacked is "standing in" for the
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209 inner self of the person doing the attacking. For example, one who accuses
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210 another of lewd or immoral behaviour, on this board usually does not personally
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211 know the person accused. This attack from anonymity usually is a tip-off
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212 that the attacker feels that he/she is really the type of person who whould
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213 indulge (if courage were sufficient) in the behaviour that he/she condemns.
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214 Thus one who attacks anothers intellegence reveals his feeling about the
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215 lack in his own intellegence, another who questions the worth of others
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216 thus shows that he feels of little personal worth himself.
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217 It's easier to ignore these infantile outbursts when you remember that they
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218 are the sniffles of children who have not even graduated to the stage of
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219 being able to express self-pity. Sometimes these folks realize what they
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220 are doing and mature into valued persons, others simply lose interest when
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221 ignored long enough. Either way, responding to them simply encourages
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222 more of the same. However, don't mistake honest constructive criticism
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223 for those cries of self-pity. It's in sadly short supply in the world, and
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224 when offered, well worth taking.
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225 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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226 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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227 Piper: Your advice above is good, pity I am going to deny it.
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228 Assassins: Please excuse, it was my fault that people think Kathyd is
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229 "boycotting" the Inn. It is my fault that people think that she thinks she
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230 is high and above you all. She does not. Apparently, through some misunder-
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231 standing, I passed on this inaccurate impression I received. I will admit this
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232 impression was of thought they became twisted around in my head, it was not
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233 any misspeach on her part. However, if she were to honestly be "boycotting" the
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234 Inn, who could blame her? I am truely suprised she steps near. (Yes, that was
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235 the point, right?) I would like to return to that "be nice to everyone month".
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236 I must say I do not like you, and you do not like me either. But, it looks like
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237 were stuck with each other. To my knowledge, Kathyd (or I) have done nothing to
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238 step on you toes. I honestly can not see why you just don't leave her be.
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239 Boredom, right? Well, those long critical words you gave her made me think
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240 twice. You can write. Can you not put that to more constructive work? Remember,
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241 when something goes liked, it is not always commented on. If I commented on
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242 every piece here I liked, that's all I would do. (I know, better that way,
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243 huh?) Of late, I have not noticed the "old-timers" giving compliments to
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244 only the "old-timers". Sure, they do. But, not only. Is it? (Gosh, maybe you
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245 are right...) Anyways, please stop. It would be nice. People don't like getting
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246 their feelings hurt, I am sure Kathyd is of no exception. I wish I could
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247 persued (sp! yes, I know) you to write things that we would enjoy reading.
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248 True, people may not say "wow! that's really great", but often times we think
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249 it. (Or I do, anyways). Can I get I hurt child's look on my face and stare up
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250 at you with pleading eyes? Okay, I know this probabley will not sway your
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251 actions, I wish would. But, at least you will get a laugh out of it, no? This
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252 is just that sappy kind of stuff you, right? Well, I would rather you quite
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253 being mean and start writing some other stuff (even if nobody comments), but
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254 if you decide to continue being mean, go ahead laugh. It would be sort of fun,
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255 no? I think it is anyway, pretty sappy. But has a point. -Tanya please...
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256 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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257 I just re-read. Please excuse all grammatical error. Enter only... . . . .
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258 *******************************************************************
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259 Thor: In response to you comment on what is now drive B, huh?
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260 I have not left any messages addressed to you. Perhaps you mistook
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261 someone elses message as mine? Please note that a number of people
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262 use the '*' boarder, which is perfectly fine by me, but you should
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263 be more observant, I ALWAYS sign the bottom line with CISTOP MIKEY.
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264 If it isn't there, it isn't me. Plain and simple.
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265 *****************
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266 I'm sorry to see the lastest rash of name calling and general
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267 childish actions going on here. I would have thought better of you all.
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268 The one calling himself (herself?) a pro obviously isn't, else they
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269 would be more aware of the world and how it works. Certainly some of
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270 the writing here is not exactly top grade, but then remember that
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271 it is typically writen in one sitting, to be put on a system in which
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272 it will only see the light of day for maybe 2 or 3 days at the most,
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273 and then is relagated to the dusty musty archives never to be seen
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274 by mortal eyes again. Many writers here have never done that sort
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275 of thing before, and they are flexing their writting musles, seeing
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276 if they have the ability, or learning to do better. Some use it
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277 simply as a means to exercise and try new concepts. Several of the
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278 so called old timers here actually ARE writers, they make a living at it.
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279 BW is more like night club like Second City, or the Improv where
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280 people can try out and see if they have what it takes, and 'old timers'
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281 can try out new material, or spiff up older material and style.
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282 As far as bad grammer or spelling, or other misc rude comments, certainly
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283 there is a lot of it, how else do you learn whether it is or not.
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284 Take the above writting I just did, if is riff with typos, spelling errors,
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285 horid grammer, ect.. And yet, I have written awhile myself, and most
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286 importantly I made money at it, (the true telltale sign of a professional)
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287 The LAST thing I check for is spelling and grammer, and if I'm just
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288 putting down an idea for someone to check out, I don't worry about it,
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289 because I got the idea across, and that is what counts. If I'm trying
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290 to write a finished product, I run it thru a spell checker, a fog checker,
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291 have someone else read it for content, ect. but even then it is never
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292 perfect, I am a writer not a copyreader. That is why the profession
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293 exists, so that writers and editors can spend the time needed to insure
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294 that the content is good. This doesn't mean that bad grammer or spelling
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295 has no affect, but it is not of prime importance. Just because you don't
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296 have the worlds most gramatically correct story doesn't mean it will
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297 be thrown in the corner box with all the other yucko manuscripts. It can
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298 make a marginal story get thown away, but it will only marginaly affect
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299 a great story. That is why editors are willing to sift thru all that
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300 garbage, in the hopes of finding a diamond studed needle in the middle
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301 of the haystack. All to often they must settle for a plain uninteresting
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302 ordinary needle, so when it is bent, they just look for another one, but
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303 if it looks good enough, there is always time and willingness to straighten
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304 it out. Sure rejection is hard to take, but one thing I have always done
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305 is try to get the editor to tell me why it was rejected, how can I make it
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306 better? Sometimes I get an answer, and those I treasure for the jewles of
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307 advice that they are. (Doesn't mean I always follow the bastards advice!)
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308 So anyway, people have to learn someplace, we aren't born with perfect
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309 writting talent, it is a skill like any other that takes time and exposure
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310 to the elements to perfect. (or at least improve)
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311 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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312 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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313 Hmmm.... I came here all primed to spout off, but it seems our beloved
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314 Cistop has said it all. To that I'll add: Amen!
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315 Val
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316 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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318 I signed my letter "advice from a pro" because I do indeed earn some small part
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319 of my income as a writer, and wished to differentiate between myself and those
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320 who are known as assassins, vandals, etc. While I will concede your point,
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321 Cistop Mikey, that much of the writing here is expository, I am afraid that I
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322 can not agree that that is good. The first skill a writer must learn is the
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323 ability to rewrite his own words. Without analysis--by oneself or by others--
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324 a writer cannot grow, cannot progress beyond the expository stage. You can tellme that the people who make their entries
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325 hunched over a glowing screen late at night do download their story and edit it,
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326 but I don't really believe that. As far as spelling and punctuation are
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327 concerned, errors distract the reader afrom the essentials of what the writer is
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328 saying. In modern America, there are so many words spouring out of typewriters
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329 and word-processors that the reader cannot keep up with them. Have you tried
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330 reading the Oregonian cover-to-cover lately? How about trying to read every
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331 one of the computer magazines published each month? Faced with this, this
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332 overwhelming onslaught of verbiage, it is the writer's job to make things
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333 easier for the poor reader. If you choose not to revise and rework, that is
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334 certainly your privilege, but don't expect your writing to improve and don't
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335 expect to get published.
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336 As far as the "kathyd" situation, I was not attempting to injure her, and
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337 I am sorry it was taken in that vein. My apologies to her if I seemed overly
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338 harsh. I'm afraid thaat I feel the bulk of my argument stands: you have some
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339 skill, but you must practice, practice, practice! Just as no one can sit down
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340 and write the Brandenburg Concertos without practice, so you cannot write (fill
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341 in the favorite novel of your choice) without exercising your "writing muscle."
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342 Why do I remain anonymous? I value my privacy just as much as any of
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343 you, and probably more than most. I have no wish to be solicited for the name
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344 of my agent or to critique someone else's autobiography. Also, may I point
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345 out, YOU are just as nameless--to me, anyway.
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346 One last point: there is a famous quote (my Bartlett's doesn't have the
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347 quote, so I can't credit the originator) to the effect "That if engineers
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348 built bridges the way programmers write code, civilization would be destroyed
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349 by the first woodpecker to come along." If you will grant me that point, then
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350 perhaps you will grant me this one: if all writers wrote with as little regard
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351 for the reader as some do here, wno one would read anything anymore. You may
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352 not be able to write brilliantly, but you can attempt to write properly, so
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353 that you will be understood and (hopefully) appreciated... "Pro"
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354 } xx xx xx xx xx
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356 FRAME Tank Moon War...2024...DVProductions...from a dream... Structure: Frame-
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357 Tank - These "tanks" are small, one-man, atomic-powered, and fast.k They weigh
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358 about 300 lbs. They have the appearance of being only frames because they use a
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359 super plexiglass power field that is clear, but so strong nearly anything
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360 bounces off; gives great visability. The Driver sits in a swivel chair that
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361 also turns the powerful turret-gun. Controls are simply 2 dials that control
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362 the gun and tank direction/motion and two buttons controlling speed and firing.
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363 The turret fires small, jet-propelled shells (like long bullets) that streak the
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364 vacuum sky and explode with green violence on the moon surface.
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365 xx xx xx xx xx
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366 It is very dark. My frame-tank is surrounded by five others , but something
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367 has disabled all our tanks -- perhaps a solar flare? I get out quickly to fight
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368 hand-to-hand. The disturbance ( a nuclear explosion) must have wiped out
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369 everything electronic, because my homing-gun doesn't work. By the numbers... I
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370 rush back and pull the 10 lunar-pound atomic generator plank from my tank. It
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371 is rather like a blunt, clumsy sword -- long and rectangular. I hold, as a
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372 handle, the actual generator end of it, which is much more rounded. As the five
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373 foes charge at me, waving their own sharp-edged makeshift swords, I blast them
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374 with the pure energy meant to power my wheels. Whatever the beam touches, it
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375 displaces, literally melting my adversaries. My oxygen is low. I fight my way
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376 to the nearest ground airlock, and take off my pressure suit in the comfort of
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377 warm air. FRAME-Tank War... 2024... DVProductions ... xx xx
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380 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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381 I was really upset when I got on last, a couple of days ago, and found
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382 that I couldn't make heads or tales of what the computer was spouting at me.
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383 I was even more upset when I couldn't get on at all. Now that I have, how-
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384 ever, I found that I haven't missed anything at all.
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385 For the people that don't recognize me of my border, I am a lowly
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386 student from OSU that occasionally steals her brother's computer and reads
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387 the stuff contained herein. I don't get down to Rose City from Moo U too
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388 often, but I've gotten pretty good at picking up stories in the middle and
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389 ENJOYING WHAT I READ. And this is what I want to sermonize on...
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390 I just so happen to be an English major. I also just so happen to have
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391 a talent for proofreading. I have been performing that service for friends
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392 and family for as long as I've had any mastery of my native tongue. I know
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393 good grammar, etc., when I see it, and I also know a good storyline or idea
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394 when I see that. The reason that the "Old-timers" don't remember seeing a
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395 story from me is that I know that I'm not up to snuff yet.
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396 But I admire the people that write on this board for their hutspa(sp?),
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397 and I very much enjoy what I find here. For, my dear PRO, it is not the
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398 spelling and the grammer that I dial this board up for; it is the stories
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399 them selves that I enjoy. If you can't enjoy a good story installment
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400 because one of the words is misspelled, then I think you should go back to
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401 whatever you were doing before you found this board. I happen to be a lousy typist myself, so I can sympathise with the
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402 misspelled words; and if the grammar isn't so hot, then I can rephrase it in
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403 my head...but I refuse to listen to anyone telling these terrific writers
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404 that because of these mistakes, their stories aren't any good. It is content
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405 that makes a good story, not mechanics: any total twit can put mechanically \
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406 perfect words on paper(and maybe even get it published), but that does not a
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407 good story make.
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408 In short: to all the writers on this board,old and new:KEEP UP THE GOOD
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409 WORK, and ignore the cranks. Like bad weather, they can't hold out forever.
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410 THORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHOR
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411 To the writer above, THANK YOU!!!
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412 I wish that I had caught your moniker or handle for I would leave you a message
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413 on a more personal basis.
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414 To exemplify your words, take the dictionary or encyclopedia.
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415 Both are perfect in their grammar and their spelling but who finds their
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416 writing exciting, interesting or imaginative? Maybe "pro" but I can think of
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417 no other. They are both sets of books that merely give words and information
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418 and show no talent of thought only structured investigatory prints. Is this
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419 professional writing then? Is this what we are all striving to become?
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420 Text writers? No I do not think so. A story by a New Guinea savage is still
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421 interesting to many who hear his tale.
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422 No matter if his writing is grammically incorrect or his diction imperfect.
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423 Writers are judged are their ability to paint a picture, touch a heart or
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424 pierce a soul. There are many professional writers today that do not write
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425 a single word. They dictate their thoughts and storylines into a tape recorder
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426 and another associate edits those thoughts and idea into a finished product.
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427 Usually those associates are doing their job as they do not have the talent
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428 of the person that they edit. So it appears to THOR, as 'PRO' considers his
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429 or herself a professional because of income benefitted through its effort.
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430 THOR has benefitted for his writings also but those writings could not be
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431 judged imaginative nor inspirational.
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432 No indeed, not unless the teaching of the operations of deadly weapons could
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433 be construed to be authoritic. No 'PRO'
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434 I do not forsee your being an asset for the INN. It is obvious from the heated
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435 response that has shown its ugly head concerning the merits of your arguments
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436 only shows that constructive critism is what the users want on this board.
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437 Irritants can sometimes get a rise of a few for a short time but usually they
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438 are ignored and they disappear. You must
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439 derive some pleasure from this board or else you wouldn't keep coming back.
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440 If it is not up to your standards then I can get you the number for Compuserve
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441 ry of congress where you can browse your hearts content on professional
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442 quality materials.
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443 Or is it perhaps you desire attention, be it even negative attention
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444 in order to get some kind of recognition for your existence. I used to have
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445 the same problem with my baby girls before they grew up a little. They too
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446 suffered recognition as they thought because their mother and father did not
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447 love each other anymore than perhaps it spread over to them.
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448 Is this it 'pro' are you looking for someone to show you some love or
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449 effection? There are plenty of people here at the INN that can give that
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450 to you. Please try to excersise your efforts toward a positive attention
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451 rather than a negative one. Why not leave us a sample of your writings so
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452 that we can enjoy your material too? You may find some critics because of
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453 the prejudiced attitude that you have set up but if you take the chance maybe
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454 you might even get some praise. After all, isn't that what you are looking for?
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455 Come on now, give us a try, THOR hasn't maimed anyone since 1968 so I'm
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456 out of practice anyway.
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457 THORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHOR
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458 My God Guardian, stop me when I get so damn philosophical.......THOR
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459 **************************************
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460 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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461 Thank you, THOR!! Long time no positive strokes!!
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462 As I seem to have forgotten it last time, this particular lowly college
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463 student's name is
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464 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/Luingil/\/\/\/\/\/(Pleasetakeakkthisasconstructive)/\/\/\
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465 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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466 Luingil: I was right behind Thor all the way as he applauded you. I was
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467 honestly considering sleep teaching myself into being a good speller. I knew
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468 I would never be able to handle the grammer thing, so I decided that I would
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469 just have to quit these stories and right only poetry. (No rules). Really,
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470 thanks. It was sort of weird to look around the Inn and see vicious faces.
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471 (I, much to my dismay, include myself). I admit, your face is not much known
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472 to me, but it was if I saw my only friend standing as you did. Thanks!
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473 Pro: I am very wishy-washy. I can understand (sort of) what you were saying
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474 but I got the impression you were shouting in our ears. Not a pleasant sound,
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475 even if given in good faith. Yes, we all need practice. But, maybe if we are
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476 so bad grammatically, we would have somebody correct our work. The thing is,
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477 I really did not expect to find any professinals out there looking over my
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478 words saying "gee, she has a problem with run-on sentences and commas". I know
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479 that I have that problem. But, that is the way I THINK. I also think backwards
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480 in varies other ways, too. Most of which I translate into common English or
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481 else it really would not make any sense. With my terminal I have not the
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482 ability to download (as far as I know) nor do I have a machine that will spell-
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483 check my work. I honestly have trouble with dictionaries even though I can
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484 recite the alphebet very well (better than spell it). So I do not have all
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485 these options to make my stuff perfect before I set it here. (Not that I could
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486 make it "perfect"). You have received alot of attacks. Sorry. But, maybe
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487 you do not understand how you appear. "I am the pro, I know what's what. All
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488 you guys are so much less than me. You can't even spell!" etc. I do not think
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489 this is what you mean. (I hope not). But, it took alot of thinking to draw
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490 this conclusion. I think almost everyone that writes here feels personally
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491 insulted. Alot of what you said was very true, in my opinion. But, it was your
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492 words that sounded harsh, making it seem like an attack. Anyways, I would
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493 greatly enjoy reading some of your stuff. Please do write here. (Although I
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494 suggest you throw in a few spelling errors, grammar problems, just so we won't
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495 suspect who it is. You got everyone at your throa, see. It was good to keep
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496 identity covered. Besides, if you didn't people might figure out who you was
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497 and say "he/she ain't no pro! Sure, that makes sense but..." No, really,
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498 please do share. Excuse the space I consumed. My thoughts ran away. -Tanya
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499 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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502 SDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSD
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503 I would like to inform you people that Alternate World is back up...(finally)
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504 And that it has a B-Board which can store 1570 lines and an E-mail secwhich
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505 can store 166 messages.
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506 Also, to all of you who have read my Doctor Where and Bucaroo (sp) Banzai stories on Tanis and have disliked them
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507 because you think they deface Doctor Who...I would like to say that I don't mean to...in fact in like Doctor Who.
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508 Thanks for your attention...
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509 The Silver Dragon...
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511 SDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSD
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512 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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513 To all -- as an "ol'timer" let me throw in a few thoughts. The inn goes t
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514 through cycles ... stories, arguments, anger, love. Let's not stand in the
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515 way and let the pendulum swing on, try to keep the criticism constructive, and
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516 remember the feelings of those you speak of and to. As long as we're human,
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517 we'll misunderstand one another, get angry and say (or write) things we will
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518 later regret. It's ephemeral here as cistop mikey says. Barkeep, a round
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519 for the house, and I'll try to continue my story.
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520 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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521 (what has gone before) The piper out for a midnight ride upon the pegasus
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522 has wandered into a land of solidified clouds. He has entered a public
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523 house of some kind and been welcomed by Koom Youlus, a large hearty man
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524 and Rainbow, a most attractive lady. While the inn has been undergoing
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525 a spate of incivility, the piper has become acquainted with his new friends...
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527 The process by which we become acquainted is like a formal dance -- the
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528 participants move forward and back, exposing and concealing in a rather
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529 specialized ritual. There are undercurrents of concealed hostility, lust,
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530 the urge to dominate one over another. The participants assume different
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531 roles, trying to weave a social fabric that allows the development of a
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532 genuine affection and liking for each other. Each tugs at the developing
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533 garment that enfolds the group, easing his or her own fit, until the breaking-in
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534 period has produced a comfortable fit.
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535 The roles the small party soon assumed were preordained by the long
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536 acquaintanship that all but the piper had with one another. Koom played the
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537 bluff, hearty host -- the father figure to whom all the others deferred.
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538 The others (the piper never did get all the names straight) played out their
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539 own roles Alt the lofty intellect, Seris (or was it Nimbus?) the wayward
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540 daughter. The names did not matter, the roles were there.
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541 In new aquaintanships there are also electric moments. Part of the pleasure
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542 to be had from people is the pleasure of the unexpected. Another is the
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543 sharp exitement of chemistry that seems to fall into synchronization.
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544 During the banter and exchange, the piper had become acutely aware of
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545 Rainbow's presence. The soft warmth against his arm set his pulse racing
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546 when she reached across the table for a refill of her ale, the pressure of
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547 her leg along his kept him unacustomedly still. The human body, however,
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548 has certain physical limitations build in -- after a certain amount of liquid
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549 has been consumed, room must be made should one wish to consume more.
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550 The piper, after delicately indicating this to Koom, his host, was quite
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551 startled when that worthy gentleman called out in a rather loud voice,
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552 "All right everybody -- let's go unload!"
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553 Trailing behind the noisy party, the piper stifled his startlement, and
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554 after a few moments followed the group into a large communal rest room.
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555 After a brief bout of shyness, the piper following the lead of the other male
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556 members of the party stood up to a large silver-lined trough used for a
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557 urinal. Glancing across the room, he was just in time to notice Rainbow
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558 hoisting her skirts over what appeared to be a solid gold commode. The
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559 thought flashed through his brain before he could suppress it...
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560 "I've often heard of the pot of gold....."
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561 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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562 Bravo, Piper.! Responses to others (Tanya, Luingil, and Thor are being
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563
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564 transferred to paper, and I will enter them later. I would be quite happy
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565 to transfer this to another board, but as I mentioned earlier, I don't know
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566 who you are, and therefore cannot send messages to you. (pretend that there
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567 is a closed parentheses after Thor, please) Pro
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568 #$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$#
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569 Near the bottom... and so much discussion above. Perhaps I'll enter something
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570 substantial tomorrow, when there's more elbow room. Personally, I don't mind
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571 incorrect spelling (much), improper grammer, etc. What I call here for is to
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572 read the stories. That's it. As long as it's interesting, and mostly legible,
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573 it's okay by me.
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574 #$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$# Farley #$##$##$# 21:52 - 03/29/85 #$##$#
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575 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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576 All: I've read some information about a writing contest held by Avon/Flare
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577 books, and I think that I will participate. I have until August to complete
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578 it, and it must be about teenagers and written for teenagers. Does anyone mind
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579 if I enter sections of it here for review? Perhaps I can make use of that
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580 constructive criticism shown here.
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581 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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583 Voyeur : I'll most likely pay dearly for staying up and waiting for the attack dialer to get me on here,
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584 but I did, and here I am, and here is my marker, and you can start from now on, until I say stop. Thank
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585 you very much...
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586 Milch : Ok buddy, but no teen-romance stories ok? heh heh... You know what I mean. Go for it. We await
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587 the creations from your own personal Word Starlett.
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588 Farley : I'll be bringing back some spare parts for Fred (snicker guffaw) so prepare thyself.
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589 Petrov : I am disapointed we didn't hear more from you during this too short vacation. But now with ALL
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590 of your own equipment, you won't need your friends anymore, and another sheepish entry could come at any
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591 time, without warning. Here and gone, the only trace being that peculiar smell in the air, and a sales
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592 slip from Fredricks of Falklands...
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593 *^)_$#*^_$)^*#_)^*#_)*^)_#!$*^)_@#*^ L'homme sans Parity %*#@)_%*@#)_%*@_)#*%!)_*%)_*%@^&#$)_*^)_#$*^)_#$*^#_)^*@_)^*
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594 Farley - by all means enter your teen-aimed stories. As things stand, it
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595 will raise the average intellectual level of BW. Hopefully your excerps will
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596 not be too erudite for the mainstream lurker.
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597 _innocent bysitter_
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598 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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599 There seems to be a great deal of argument concerning critical entries
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600 created by "unnamed individuals." I happen to be one of these individuals.
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601 Because most of the attacking and defending statements on this system are
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602 quite vague, I'm uncertain whether any of the defensive comments were actually
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603 directed towards me.
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604 Though my opinion stands, I would like to apologize--it was in questionable
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605 tast for me to put down other writer's entries.
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606 It's interesting to see that most of the outcry against critical entries
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607 appear in the form of a vow never to comment on critical entries. I'd also
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608 like to point out that the writers who condemn negative comments have
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609 developed the annoying habit of psychoanalyzing the ones who made the
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610 comments. It's completely irresponsible to attempt to understand a person's
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611 inner thoughts and feelings based on a single entry. It's obviously true that
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612 a person who makes destructive statements has character flaws, but I would
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613 advise you to be less hasty in your judgments...a tendency which is also
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614 extremely destructive.
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615 Well, enough soap-boxing. It's time to get back to writing (fiction) which
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616 I will do as soon as Mikey switches disks, moving my formerly mentioned
|
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617 negative comments to drive C.
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