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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ********************** INSTALLED: 18 DEC 84 ************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 hi my name is Theresa Morrow and I am a new user in backwash so it is hard
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21 to understand all of this information.
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22 )-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-
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23 Well, first of all, Theresa, it's BackWater, not backwash. Secondly,
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24 should do what everyone else does--lurk(read) until you get some fam-
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25 iliarty with what is going on here. Unless you have an auto-dial modem
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26 there are better places to leave messages(ie: other BBS's) since there
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27 are quite a few writers on this board, and it takes some time to enter
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28 a story. To look at the past few days' offerings, type in "DB"...
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29 "Robin"
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30 )-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-)-
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31 ______________________________________________________________________________
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32 Announcing a new Motion Picture that will make Cinematic History...
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33
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34 Breakin' II - Electric Babaloo
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35
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36 Yes! If you haven't felt it before, you better feel it this time or your
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37 dendrites must be malfunctioning! If you were dancin' in the aisles for
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38 Breakin' I, you will absolutely go wild for Breakin' II - Electric Babaloo!
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39
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40 Killer, Oxide, and Turbine, the three best breakers we know of, are back.
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41 And they are better, hotter, faster, and leaner than before! You'll thrill
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42 at the choreography! You`ll scream at the music! You'll light up at the sheer
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43 electricity these young performers have to offer! Yes! It's
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44
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45 Breakin' II - Electric Babaloo
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46
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47 Music by Ricky (get down Lucy) Ricardo. Produced by Our Gang. Special
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48 appearances by Old Blue Eyes, Buckwheat, and Paul A. Traitors.
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49
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50 A Cannon Fodder Film. Rated Breakin' XIII!
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51 _______________________________________________________________________________
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52
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53 Dune. What can one say, walking from the theater, visually stunned, but knowing
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54 deep in your heart a classic fiction book was massacred at the hands of a
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55 director known best for his phallic adolescent in Eraserhead, and a producer
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56 who knows no bounds to the word garish.
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57 A movie that tried to be all things to all people. A movie that attempted to
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58 please the millions of followers of Frank Herbert's fictional worlds, and at
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59 the same time cater to the other unenlightened millions who will truly
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60 determine whether this movie sinks or swims at the box office.
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61 In an attempt to make a comprehensible movie for those unlucky souls who have
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62 not had the privilege of experiencing Dune in print, the makers of this
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63 film have resorted to short sighted tools to move the story along at a
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64 speed not exceeding the sensory input level of its audience.
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65 Too many things were changed. Too many characters were altered. Too many
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66 scenes ended up on the cutting room floor. A book that needed no help was
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67 instead helped beyond the stage of common sense and literary decency. People
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68 familiar with Dune will cringe at the Weirding modules, the handling of Keynes,
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69 Paul's trial with the Water of Life, the complete idiocy of the Baron, and
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70 the incredibly bad characterizations of the emperor, Thufir Hawat, and
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71 the Fremen Chani.
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72 With all of its shortcomings to the loyal, the movie accomplishes many things
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73 in its 2 hour 5 minute run. The very commendable handling of The Voice; the
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74 characterizations of the Bene Gesserit witches, Jessica in particular; and
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75 the rest of the Attredies household, minor changes from the book not-
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76 withstanding; the prescience sequences; the thought processes; the sound, and
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77 the cinematography are all excellent.
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78 Readers of Dune will have to be satisfied with the imagery of the film.
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79 Decisions were made that are often beyond the control of even the most
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80 well-meaning film maker. Dune is yet another testament to the foul treatment
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81 novels are given in Hollywood. Rejoice in what is left, and perhaps, try to
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82 think of Dune as a different story from a different book. Keep those memories
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83 of the real Dune close to the heart, and never forget them.
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84 A FILM FAN
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85 ------------------------------------]
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86
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87 Go, Tammy!
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88 Go, Tammy!
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89 MORE!
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90 MORE!
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91 MORE!
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92
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93 Isn't that cute? A margin of 7! That might leaves just enough room for error
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94 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ abacab _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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95 ABACAB DEAR FELLOW. ANYONE WHO LEAVES THE MARGIN AT 7 DESERVES TO BE DELETED
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96 AS FOR GO TAMMY. YES TAKE THAT ADVICE AND GO GO GO!
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97
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98 TO Anon. It was fun, but I'll stop. Just wanted to know the limit. _-_- abacab
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99
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100 ................................................................
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101 L'homme: Hrmph! I only *ASKED* about using YOUR ROMs and see what I get...
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102 By the way, how are you doing with "The Practice Effect"?
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103 __________________________________Leonard__________________________________
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104
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105 How incredible! I was able to read all
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106 the way thru disk B without even one of
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107 those static bursts. I'd better write
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108 this quick before they catch up with me
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109 again....
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110
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111 Tammy: Your story is great. I can't
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112 wait to see what happens next. I hope
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113 my phone line will be nice enough to
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114 let me read it before it all slips
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115 past drive B.
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116 --------------------------------------
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117 Mad Max...
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118 ***************************************************************************
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119 And indeed strange things have happened to Leo since the recent brawl
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120 in the control room. 1. The arcing effect disrupted the controllers
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121 power over captive humans and Inmo's. 2. The yuglies are sort of disini-
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122 grated, leaving somewhat slimy puddles of yellowish fur and fats. 3. Ontho
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123 forgave Leo for being a twit. 3. Transportion was arranged for wandering
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124 and cold children and Inmo's back to friends and home's. 4. Even though
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125 the defeat of the Yuglies came by accident, Leo was rewarded with a wet
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126 kiss from the young duke and a spaceship. 5. Ontho worked with the elders
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127 to devise a box to properly house the trident and came up with a workable
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128 solution. 6. Alex (young duke) and Leo are now on their own, they have
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129 new adventures waiting on their new ship, the great Guaran. The Trident
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130 is at the bow of the ship in the new chest designed by Ontho and the Others
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131 Ontho was sitting on the head of the old woman when Leo and Alex left
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132 the lanch pad. The little Inmo was thinking of upcomming events soon to
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133 end *his* life. Just to smart for an Inmo to handle. The old woman reading
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134 Ontho's thoughts sent back a warm message of love and thanks for a job done
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135 well.
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136 *****************************kathy*****************************************
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137 hmmm I thought I had people behind me, but now that I look....
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138 ***************************************************************************
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139 The seas were calm now as Salty looked out over the water. Had been a
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140 terrible storm last night but the crew handled it like the men they were.
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141 And such good men they were. "Ship starboard" cried the lookout in the
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142 crows nest. Salty got out his scope for a look. A fine English merchant
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143 ship could be seen. Salty started to fantasize, gold, silver, guns.. who
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144 knows untill it's boarded. "Men!!!" he cried "load the cannons!!, Weve got
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145 work to do"
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146 The men were as happy to see the ship as their boss, and gleefully
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147 loaded the cannons and sharped swords, their guns were loaded and ready.
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148 steady as she goes. The men loved this part, for they had stolen their
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149 fine cannons from a Spanish galleon before they sent her to the bottom.
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150 Salty was up on the top deck looking at the faces of the men on the ship
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151 they were attacking. For they had seen the jolly rodger and were doing
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152 their best to escape. "Ha Ha" "look at them try to run" Salty was pleased
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153 ***************************kathy*******************************************
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154
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155 SO, NOW I HAVE SEEN DUNE, AND I SEEM TO BE IN THE COMPANY OF A GOOD MANY OTHER PEOPLE. FILM FAN DID, AND PROCEEDED TO WHINE
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156 ABOUT THE HISTORY OF IT'S MAKERS, AND I RECEIVED A SMALL LESSON IN ARRAKIAN SPELLING PATTERNS FOR HIS TROUBLE.
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157 I HAVE NOT READ DUNE, I TRIED BUT THE LACK OF IMAGERY THAT I RECEIVED FROM HERBERT'S WRITING STYLE MADE ME TIRE OF IT TOO
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158 QUICKLY. SADLY, I ONLY READ TO PAGE THIRTY TWO OR SO.
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159
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160 THE MOVIE DUNE RELIES A BIT MUCH ON GORE, AND DISGUST TO ENFORCE OPINIONS ON CERTAIN CHARACTERS. THE BARON HAS NO CHARACTER
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161 DEVOLOPMENT WITHOUT HIS DISGUSTING APPEARENCE, AND MANNER.
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162
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163 THE CUTTER MADE THIS AWESOME SPECTACLE OF A MOVIE, A SHAMBLES OF WHAT THE FILM WAS SHOT TO BE. NOT BECAUSE OF PARTS LEFT OUT
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164 REALLY, BUT BECAUSE THE CUTTER DID A THIRD RATE JOB. SOME SCENES WERE SO SCRATCHED UP THAT IT APPEARED ON THE AUDIO TAPE.
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165 THE END IS SO... ANTICLIMACTIC THAT ANY TREMENDOUS WELLING OF PRIDE AFTER THE MOVIE IS SILENCED BY ONE SHOT THAT WAS HANDLED
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166 HIDEOUSLY.
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167
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168 PERHAPS THIS WAS SIMPLY AT MY THEATER, BUT MY SHOWING SEEMED TO PORTRAY AN AWESOME SPECTACLE RUINED BY A HIRRENDOUS CUTTING
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169 JOB. WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE OUGHT TO BE FIRED AT LEAST, AND PROBABLY SHAMED PROFESSIONALLY.
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170
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171 OVERALL, WITH HIDEOUS CUTTING JOB ASIDE, DUNE SUCCEEDED IN BEING ENTHRALLING AND INTERESTING IN THE EXTREME. ALL OF THE SETS
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172 AND PROPS, EVEN THE SPECIAL EFFECTS WERE HANDLED PERFECTLY FOR MY TASTES, AS I HAD NOT FORMED IRRESISTABLE IDEAS ON WHAT
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173 PEOPLE AND PROPS AND SPECIAL EFFECTS WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AND SOUND LIKE. ANY CRITICISM ON THAT POINT SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT
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174 FOR THAT PREJUDICE.
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175
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176 DUNE WAS A GREAT SAMPLER FOR THE READING OF DUNE. I AM ENTHRALLED... EVERY PART HAD SUCH PROMISE THAT I AM SURE I WILL ENJOY
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177 THE READING OF DUNE.
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178
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180
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181 Does anyone know what the processor speed on the Intel 8088 is? I plan on getting a clone sooN, one month, and am curious
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182 to see just how fast it is.
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183
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184 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (a real big 'oops')
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185 If any of you out there saw the last show of DUNE Tues, my deepest apologies.
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186 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->the missing Guardian 19 Dec 84 0228 Hrs
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187
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188 ****************************************************************************
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189 I had made no plans to see "DUNE" because I suspected violence to be
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190 the key attracting feature. After reading the reviews I believe I made the
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191 correct choice. I'll keep my 5 bucks thank-you.
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192 **********************************************kathy************************
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193
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194 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (no fivers here!)
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195 I believe that someone -did- mention gore, but it only related to certain
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196 characters- such as, of course, the flying fat man, the Baron.
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197 As to the fiver, hmmm... Ah, I see it now! A pass with Ms. kathy's
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198 name on it! Now then, how will she get it? (puzzled look on my face)
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199 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->the 'H.P.' Guardian 0335 Hrs 19 Dec 84
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200 (now where did that thing go?)
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201
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202 *****************************************************************************
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203 Salty was pleased... His fine ship was currently in the process of
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204 bombarding the English vessel. Taking a couple of hits but nothing to fret
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205 about. Salty ordered the boarding and swung aboard himself knife in his
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206 teeth to fight with his men. Ah this is the life, plundering and looting,
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207 shooting and killing, taking of treasures, trading old ships for new. Who
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208 could ask for anymore? Ah yes I am a lucky man, said Salty to himself as he
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209 knifed a english man who wasn't thrilled to death with Salty's idea's.
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210 They rounded up about 15 men and 2 cabin boys, tied them up untill they
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211 had their way with them. Salty and his first mate, Salty calls him nosebleed,
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212 were opening up the hold. Nosebleed held a lamp and climbed down in.
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213 ************yo ho ho and a bottle of rum*****kathy*****************************
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214 .......................................
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215 kathy: I presume Salty and his motley
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216 crew overcame their foe by holding
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217 High Mass until they were bored to
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218 death. What else could be done using
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219 a loaded canon?
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220 ... an amused observer.................
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221 ********************************************************************************
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222 thank-you for pointing out my spelling errors, I have corrected the one
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223 you brought up. But watchout landlubber, I might find yee in the hold and
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224 then yee will be keel hauled. chortle, snicker.
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225 ******************************kathy**********************************************
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226 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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227 The piper, growing weaker from the loss of blood, slowly realized from where
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228 the blood was running. A deep fear gripped him, as the feel of a second slash
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229 tore across the same side, followed by another torrent of blood. Unable to
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230 staunch a wound that had no source on his physical body, the piper staggered
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231 from the path, heart aflame with fear for the pegasus, leaving his bloody
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232 shirt marking his point of entry. Not knowing where he was, not knowing where
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233 he was heading, he stumbled blindly down the side of a small canyon, tearing
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234 a thin, tall tree that had partly fallen over, out of the ground. Grasping at
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235 it to slow his fall, he felt the world dissolve from around him.
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236 The timid woodland creatures were treated to an amazing sight that afternoon.
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237 The spectacle of a large and clumsy two-legs who had previously suffered some
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238 terrible wound, blundering down the side of the small, steeply-sloped canyon.
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239 Not too terribly remarkable? Ah, but the way he fell... twisting and turning,
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240 yet not down the slope -- he seemed to fall in a completely different direction.
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241 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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242 ***********************************
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243 piper: excellent!!
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244
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245 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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246 KATHY DO YOU MEAN TO SAY THESE PIRATES ARE GAY? THEY HAD THEIR WAY WITH THEM
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247 EH? ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ON A SHIP LOAD OF MEN MEN MEN THE SEXUAL
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248 EXPRESSION OF THESE MEN MEN MEN WOULD BE WITH EACH OTHER. MAKES ME WONDER
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249 WHAT WOULD DRIVE A YOUNG BOY TO SUCH A DASTERDLY JOB AS BEING A CABIN
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250 BOY. EVERYONE KNOWS THERE ARE BETTER FIELDS TO TOIL IN, SUCH AS BEING A
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251 CONGRESSIONAL PAGE. OH FRANK, WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE NEED YOUR INSIGHTFUL
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252 INPUT TO SUCH GOINGS ON.
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253 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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254
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255 ---------------------------------------
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256 To the anonymous person complaining about 'cutting' as you so ignorantly called it. Your message demonstrates a real
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257 lack of knowledge about how movies are made. How could you think for one moment one person was responsible for the
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258 entire editing job on a film the scale of Dune? Do you think this is some simpleton procedure done in a hurry? Do you
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259 think after spending millions of dollars on the making of a film, the makers would be unwilling to spend the same kind
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260 of money to have the film edited properly. You mentioned something about the theater you watched the film at possibly
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261 having something to do with the look of the film. This is highly unlikely, since films are distributed in a very orderly
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262 manner, and prints, except for the differences between 70mm dolby and standard, are very much alike. Perhaps your frame
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263 of mind had something to do with the unsatisfactory quality you felt your viewing of the film had? Nevertheless, Dune
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264 was a technical achievement of the highest degree. I don't think there can be any quarrel with the quality of the
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265 'film'. You may argue, as FILM FAN has done (whining as you so call it) with the content of the film. You may dislike
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266 what was chosen to remain in the film, and what was left out, but to complain about the look of the film, seems pointles
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267 s at best. You state your dislike of Herbert's writing style at the beginning of your message, then you do a quick change
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268 at the end. What gives? If you can't even keep one coherent line of reasoning through a short message, can we really
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269 believe or trust anything you say?
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270 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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271 $%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%
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272 TO THE ANONYMOUS DUNE CRITIC: The correct term is film editor,
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273 not cutter. How do you know the editor did such a lousy job
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274 without having seen the unedited material he worked from? You
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275 can't just assume he threw away the good stuff. Maybe he could
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276 only save the best of the terrible.
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277
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278 In trying to make yourself appear more sophisticated than you
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279 really are you only managed to make yourself look foolish. At
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280 least you had the good sense not to sign your name.
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281
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282 Kathy: Your cabin boy is a lucky lad. Where can I sign up for
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283 your crew.
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284
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285 Frank
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286 $%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$
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287 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}
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288 Sorry no story today, i'm still working on it. I don't know if I should
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289 start another one or continue with the one I have. Well, i'll try to get it
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290 on tomarrow. The Inn is so busy all the time.
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291 Kathy: I like your story, neet!
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292
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293 Mike: I'm sliding, I was feeling great for a while and now it's just about
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294 as bad. I don't know what it is, I walk around town buying presents for people
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295 and I see... I feel great when I am talking to that one person but it's like
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296 I need to call him every hour just to stay on my feet. Writing these stories
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297 has helped, maybe if Milo can be happy then I might be happy too? Well, I
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298 almost did something really stupid to myself a day ago, but (he) talked to me
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299 and got my thinking again. I'm sorry if I am bothering you with my problems,
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300 it's easier to type than talk, sorry.
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301
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302 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{tammy}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{sorry}{c}{c}
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303
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304 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (I know)
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305 Claiming ignorance to a good many facets of human emotions and wisdoms, I say
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306 these things. I am not one to go 'Ho Ho Ho', for I do not *feel* it. Words
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307 of praise and emotion do not easily come from my lips, and because of this,
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308 much of how some people 'read' my actions (unless they *really* know me) can
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309 easily be mis-inetrpreted (sp!) Oh, I try, but something has happened...
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310 I assume that most of the 'downers' at this time of year are holiday
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311 related and can be overcome by time, but time sure does have a way of slowing
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312 down in these matters, doesn't it? I think so.
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313 Tammy, although the following answer doesn't really give a clear solution
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314 your dilema with your great writing, allow me to give you this... If you have
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315 another idea for a story, and it may not quite fit, save it or start another
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316 story. If you would like to stop at where you are with Milo, at least it will
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317 serve as a good background for his character in another story... or change
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318 the situation and keep the cahacter you have already deveoped.
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319 Keep this in mind... 'There are many alternative paths for you to choose.'
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320 (Ever heard of Pascal's triangle?) Right now I'm at a slow point because
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321 I'm probably trying to develop to much out of my writing...
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322 All's well that ends well...
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323 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->the Guardin 1822 Hrs 19 Dec 84
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324
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325 Suddenly, the INN grows quiet. All eyes turn toward a stranger, whom none recognize.
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326 "My name is Starpath." the explains in a depp, mysterious voice. "I had feared this place would
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327 be closed upon my return."
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328 "It is likely that none of you recognize me, for I have been gone a long time, and my
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329 previous visit was brief.
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330 "While I was here my steed became ill, and I had to go find someone to help her, as she is
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331 a good mount, and I have no other.
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332 "Though ever so often I gazed into my StarGem and saw you all, I have been seperated from
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333 the Inn for a very long time."
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334 He sits down and waits for a reply.
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335
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336 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)STARPATH(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
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337
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338 To Luingin:
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339 The proper term is Trekkie, not Trekker
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340
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341 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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342 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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343
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344 kathy: I use my "fine English merchant chip" to trade commodities with;
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345 what do you use yours for? I still haven't figured out how they
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346 crammed the poor bugger into ROM...
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347
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348 The Gardin(huh? Nobody could spell Sondergaard? (oh yeah-(sp?))): The
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349 IBM 8088 chip runs at 4.77 MHZ. There are several other compatibles
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350 on the market(Leading Edge PC, Compaq Deskpro, Eagle Turbo(I think),
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351 and the Sperry(I think) that have a switch that enables them to run
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352 twice as fast to speed up spreadsheets, etc., or to run at 4.77,
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353 thereby maintaining compatibility with timing-dependent programs. Do
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354 you like Stargate? Running twice as fast?(assuming it would run, and
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355 wouldn't simply crash...)
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356 The Crimson Blues
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357 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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358 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (corrections)
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359 Luingin: Nevermind the uninformed, *WE* know that the group has OFFICIALLY
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360 changed their name to 'Trekkers'
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361 The Crimson Blues: I metamorphisized my name of Sondagaard (one '0'
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362 the rest are 'A's) which not many could spell, to 'the Guardin'.
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363 Thanks for the information, but it wasn't I who had asked for it.
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364 It was enter before before my border ^^^^^^^ Thanks anyway...
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365 PromeTHEUS: Drop a parcell or dial a number...
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366 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->the Guardian 2024 Hrs 19 Dec 84
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367
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368 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\/
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369 TO THE UNINFORMED: IT'S L U I N G I L ! (more tomorrow)...
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370 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/Guess
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371 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/Who? Bah Humbug!/\/\/\/\/
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372 L'homme: It has ocurred to me that we may have a misunderstanding here. I was
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373 asking if there was a reason why you could not (or did not want to) use your
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374 ROMs for a TEST! I did not expect you to give up YOUR ROMs to fix HIS machine.
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375 OK?
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376 ______________________________________Leonard__________________________________
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377 I HAD MY FIRST PREMONITION THAT DUNE WOULD BE BUTCHERED WHEN I SAW DINO
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378 DE LAURENTIS NAME ON IT. (I HAVE A BAD MEMORY FOR MOVIE TRIVIA - COULD
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379 L'HOMME PERHAPS, OR SOMEONE ELSE REMIND ME OF WHAT DDL HAS EVER DONE RIGHT?)
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380 THE SECOND SHOT OF FOREBODING HIT ME WHEN I GOT FOUR PEOPLE INTO DUNE FOR
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381 6 BUCKS AND TWO FUN PACK COUPONS ON THE THIRD DAY AFTER THE PORTLAND OPENING.
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382 ONE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE LITTLE VOICES, BUT I BADLY WANTED THE MOVIE
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383 TO SUCCEED, BECAUSE I LOVED THE BOOK (FIFTEEN YEARS AGO).
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384 ANYHOW, SINCE MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE FELT THE SAME WAY (SO I INTERPRET
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385 THESE APOLOGISTS REMARKS), I WISH TO ADD A FEW EXPLANATIONS FOR THE DISATER MYSLF.
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386 1. PRESSURE TO FIT THE FILM INTO UNDER 2 1/2 HOUR FORMAT SO AS TO SELL IT TO
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387 T.V. THIS WAS A *BIG* BOOK. THUS THE EXTREME EDITING (OR CUTTING, AS THE SLANG
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388 USED TO BE) THAT KEPT US FLITTING FROM ONE SCENE TO ANOTHER, BARELY TOUCHING
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389 ON ANY. HOWEVER A VERY MEDIOCRE DIRECTOR COULD HAVE HAD THE SAME EFFECT. I
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390 WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPIER WITH THIS BOOK SPLIT IN TWO OR THREE PARTS.
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391 2. I DIDN'T THINK THE SPECIAL EFFECTS WERE ALL THAT GREAT. THE SCENES WITH THE
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392 FREMEN RIDING THE GIANT WORMS REMINDED ME OF THOSE PHONY LOOKING DINOSAUR FILMS
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393 OF THE FIFTYS. THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT STUFF IN THERE TOO, NO DOUBT, BUT IT O
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394 ONLY TAKES ONE BLOWN SPECIAL EFFECTS SHOT TO RUIN THE 'WILLINGNESS TO SUSPEND
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395 DISBELIEF. I THINK ABOUT 95% OF THESE WERE GREAT - AND THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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396
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397 3. HOW ABOUT LOSING DUNCAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE FILM?
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398 4. HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? LIKE MAYBE IN PLACE OF THOSE MARTIA
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399 MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING SCENES THAT REMINDED ME OF BRUCE LEE MOVIES - THE EARLY ON
|
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400 ONES?
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401 5. JOSE FERRER AS AN EMPORER? HOW ABOUT LASSIE AS THE QUEEN MOTHER, THEN?
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402 -----BATPOOP, THE MAGNIFICENT, PORTLANDS ANSWER TO SISKEL AND EBERT ----------
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403 Batpoop - a good DDL? CONAN. (the first, not that miserable The Destroyer).
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404 _innocent bysitter_
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405 WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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406 Whenever a book is made into a movie, even if the book is followed faithfully,
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407 it is an entirely different THING: different characters, different setting,
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408 different action-from the book because most of that stuff is brought to the
|
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409 book-experience by the reader. I am always startled by movie versions of books,
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410 especially books I care about, and am usually disappointed. The thing on the
|
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411 screen, no matter how well done, is not the thing that is dear to me. I did
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412 like "French Lieutenant's Woman" where they did a severe modification of the
|
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413 story line in the book (which had some severe modifications of its own) which
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414 announced forthrightly "This is different; this is a movie, not the book you
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415 read." The emotional flavor of the author came across better in this not-so-
|
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416 literal version.
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417 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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418 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~not the bard~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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419 TO THE ANONYMOUS DUNE CRITIC: Since everyone else ragged on you I think
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420 that I will not. Lucky you.
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421
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422 Sorry to here about Tammy having problems, but I do agree with the cheer
|
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423 for her, or whoevers name it is. Go Tammy!, Go Tammy!.
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424 smile a little, it can't hurt.
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425
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426 What's this about Cabin boys? Sounds kinky.
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427
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PromeTHEUS: Please take the quarter out of your pocket and dial. All I
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428 hear is PromeTHEUS this or PromeTHEUS that.
|
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429
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Lucky new user THERESA was at the top and noone bothered to mention it
|
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430 to her. Sham Sham. THERESA, being the first user of line 19 is
|
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431 an ice cream cone on a very hot day. (ie. N-E-A-T) and much sout after
|
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432
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I was woundering about that SNODERGAARD guy and where he went, no wounder
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433 I didn't find many references - The First Regeneration is at hand (I think
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434 really I missed it). I do wish he would wake up and rejoin the real world.
|
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435
|
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That of course is our real world, and not the one he thinks he's in. ha
|
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436
|
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Merry Christmas <<<<<
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437 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PaPa Smurf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
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438 *****************************************************************************
|
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439 Nosebleed shouts from below. "Hey, thars people down har, women!"
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440 On deck Salty groans, "gawd, that's all we need is a bunch of silly
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441 women, well bring them up." Salty's crew has mixed emotions about
|
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442 the cargo, some like salty think it's time to dump garbage into the
|
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443 sea to attract sharks. In preparation for the joy of plank walking.
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444 The pirate with the most kills gets to do the final pushing. Such fun!
|
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445 On the other hand, or hook soom of the men have different idea's
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446 about the lassies. (they are not all MEN MEN MEN)
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447
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448 One by one the women climbed up on deck, a total of 8. These gals
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449 were all wearing black clothing and crosses (gasp!!! nuns!!!).
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450
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451 Salty ordered the retreat!!! Ieeeee Let's get out of here!! His
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452 men were off the english ship faster than you can say pokeacabinboy.
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453 (they did manage to hire on one young spud.) And they were on their
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454 way, sighing in relief. too close for comfort that one. "Full sail"
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455 could be heard as the Jolly Rodger fled like a dog with it's tail
|
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456 between it's legs. And such good men they were. ( not the end...)
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457 ************kathy*************************************gotya,ha,ha******
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458 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/lurk mode/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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459 Ride, captain, ride, upon your mystry ship. On your way to a world others
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460 might have missed.
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461 Frank: Your justification is showing!
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462 Tammy:the name you use on PCS/CBBS, is it your real last name? Do you intend
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463 to keep using it?
|
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464 Speaking of names... WHERE are they people? How the heck am I to reply to
|
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465 people who have no name?
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466 8088 person:The 8088 is SLOW, no matter how you look at it. Go for a nice
|
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467 fast 68000 system, or, if you must go MS-DOS
|
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468 look at an 8086-186 system. Showing a little bias, the Tandy 2000 is a nice
|
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469 little machine...
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470 Papa Smurf:C.W.??
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471 Theus:Strange, last time I used the phone at your locker, there was no
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472 quuarter slot. Have I missed a recent addition?
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473 CRYP-TAC/TIC:Well, when doesith I getith mein first assignment eh? Or d
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474 do I get to start?
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475 ALL:How adverse are you to having the BW archives on a public BBS system?
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476 Mikey:How would YOU feel aboout having the arhives on a public BBS system,
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477 your opinion has a bit more weight!
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478 There I go, messing up my sentence strugture again, better sign off...
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479 Halucenigenicly yours...
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480 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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481 DUNE I was VERY disappointed. My critizism is aimed at the
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482 director. His poor choice of actors (Paul from Yakima) and his
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483 inability to develop characters has made this a CLASS C movie.
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484 Good acting and dialouge was replaced with dry and lifeless
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485 thoughts (telling the audiance the story). A good movie brings
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486 characters alive, special effects enhance the scene, proper
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487 editing gives continuity. DUNE is a good sci-fi novel because
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488 the characters are WELL developed and several novel ideas are
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489 introduced ie... the scaricity of water. The movie isn't good
|
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490 because of bad acting, bad casting, bad script, mediocre special effects, and poor directing. Movie
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491 goers expect (and deserve) better quality.
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492
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493 Roger
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494 ................................................................
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495 ....................................................................
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496 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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497 Color surrounded the piper as he floated -- gold shining around him in an
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498 infinite sphere, black streaking and spiraling through the gold, red shimmering
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499 in a flat spiral from a nucleus of white, orange, and more black. Slowly these
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500 shapes took on solidity until, with an almost audible snap, he recognized them.
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501 Fighting for her life, surrounded by a haze of blood, the pegasus had been
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502 wounded twice on one side. The tiger-like winged carnivore had not gone
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503 unscathed. The hooves and wings of the pegasus had taken their toll, and
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504 catlike in the extreme, had increased the determination of the carnivore.
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505 The pegasus' wingspan was a liability here. The carnivore, with a much shorter wingspan was
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506 more manuverable. Only extreme care, and lashing hooves had kept the pegasus
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507 in the fight this long. The piper waited helplessly, unable to move, still
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508 holding the dead tree that he had plucked out of the ground as he fell.
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509 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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510 ***********************************************************************
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511 to the more vocal observer: I'm a writer of short stories and I'm just
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512 having fun. I don't give a rip about details. comeon lighten up and enjoy.
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513 ******************yo,ho,ho and a bottle of rum*******kathy******************
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514 hi how are you
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515 ctrl/s pause
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516 ctrl
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517 Merry Christmas
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518 I SAID MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!
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519 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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520 ......Another long night draws to a close.....One of many in the last
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521 few weeks. The malady...integer insomnia, digital depression or the
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522 all too familiar " Numeric based multiple substitution Blues "....maybe ?
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523 ..At least it keeps pointing that way...Arrrgggggg!!
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524 CRYP/TAC/TIC/TOC ???...I have not been following it....sounds diversionary...
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525 whats the game thats "afoot" ??
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526 Riskers,
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527 Any chance of MAD before Jan 4 ??
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529 kathy,
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530 Detail in, nomenclature, period idiom and fact provide an author a
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531 means to give life to an illusion. To dismiss these details is to deprive
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532 a story of another dimension it would otherwise have. Just a thought..
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537 Batpoop is back.
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538 Hmmmm.... Do I see the storm clouds of a debate gathering over the
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539 Southern mountains?
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540 Pam; I have a bone to pick with you.
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541 Dr. Frankenstupe
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542 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
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543 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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544
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564 Alex:Good to hear from you again. I would be willing to lob a nuke or three
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565 in mine enemy's general direction at any date before the 4th. I don't have to
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566 return to school until the evening of the 7th.
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567 BATPOOP:DDL did the job on Flash Gordon and King Kong. I would have to agree
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568 with Inn. bysitter regarding Conan. I have never been a big fan of that
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569 genre, but I did enjoy Conan, and James Earl Jones (I am your father Luke &
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570 The competition was good, so we had to be better, etc) makes a great villain.
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571 Leonard:Let's move this conversation over to CBBS/NW.
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572 Kathy:Have you given up on your challenge? And we were waiting with such
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573 excitement for 'The Wrath of Kath.' (sorry!)
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574 %*_)#*%)_@#*%_)@#*%_)@#*%_)@#*%_@)# L'homme sans Parity *_)%*@#)_*%_)@*_@)%*@_
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575 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}
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577 Milo started to walk away towards the nearest town. The town where
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578 he must show that he is able to take care of himself, he had something
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579 comming to him and he wasn't going to let anyone take that away ,
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580 no matter how old he was. He had to show them for one last time and then
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581 that would be the end of it. Milo walked along, eating a little and
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582 admiring his new weapons.
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584 Behind Milo, back on the edge of the forest there stood a tremendous
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585 winged being. Riding it was a pitch black figure, a shadow against the
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586 white snow on the branches of the trees. The being waited, never moving,
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587 not even a twitch, just waited there watching milo as he walked along.
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588 The men, after picking themselves up and collecting the dogs, saw the huge
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589 being sitting there. They found thier rope and walked up behind it. They
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590 were going to get this creature, it must have helped that little guy escape.
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591 They let out a battle cry and rushed up behind the dark rider. They were
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592 running up when the fire hit, both men were ablaze. They rolled in the snow
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593 and tried to put out the flames but within seconds they were burnt to the
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594 bone.
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596 The figure returned it's gaze to milo, who was almost out of sight. It
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597 gave the being a small command, the great wings opened wide with such
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598 strength the branches on the trees were swaying back and forth loosing the
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599 snow that had weighted them down. The huge being rose off the ground and
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600 into the air and was suddenly gone along with the flurry of the wind. The
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601 snow was then back on the branches just like before and the tracks were
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602 just as easily erased.
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605 The story goes on, oh well. what kind of trouble will Milo get himself
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606 into next? I'll have to think of something.
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607 It's snowing! I love it. I wish I could go outside and stay there and
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608 just watch the snow fall. Too bad I would freeze by bippy off! Burrrrr.
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609 Well, I'll go now.
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610 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{tammy}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{snow fight!}{c}
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612 *************************************************************************
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613 lhomme: Mikey makes the rules here and I am responsible enough to abide.
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614 and besides the continuation of my challenge whould put me in a
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615 company with MiG and Mad Max, who don't seem to write much but
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616 are so quizative about who people are. You know how picky I
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617 I am about my privacy, I'll give everyone else the same
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618 respect.
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619 **********************************************************kathy*******
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620 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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621 Kathy: Everybody knows who MiG is, thats why I write using other names. To say
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622 that I do not write much is somewhat wrong. Max on the other hand, I don't know.
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623 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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624 L'homme: ok, but dthat means that I can't guarantee responses from Sun-Wed!
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625 ___________________________________Leonard_________________________________
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626 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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627 Sigh. Not much room on the end of a disk. At last, vacation has come.
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628 ++++++++++++++
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629 ++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 09:42 on 12/21/84 +++++
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