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MARGIN IS 126
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STATUS: ENTER ONLY
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NUMBER OF LINES: 608
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ********************* REMOVED: 6 AUG 84 ********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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20 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
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23 I am indeed fortunate to be the first one on this disk; a rare
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24 pleasure! Are there any new topics for discussion as of yet?
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25 I, for one, would like to see something about the current state
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26 of research on the subject of chaos nd the scientific study
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27 thereof. Any takers?
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29 State-of-the-Desk
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31 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123457890
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32 :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
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33 Hello, well long time no type...
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35 This is the Walrus by the way. I haven't called in about 4 months, and so
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36 I don't really know who's on it now. I guess I'll have to wait until there
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37 are more messages to find out who all is on here and what they're talking
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38 about. Bye for now.
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39 - The Walrus
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40 (Julius Caesar)
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41 )>=-> Call Rome and go to Heaven <-=<(
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43 :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
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44 The Guardswoman (words: Anne Wilson, tune: "Female Drummer" from Steeleye Span's "Please to See The King")
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45 I was born in the Hellers, and when I was sixteen, oh,
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46 I ran away to Thendara, and a Guardsman I became.
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47 Chorus: In the colors of the Hasturs, the silver and the blue,
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48 I stood among the Guardsmen as I'd always longed to do,
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49 With my gentle waist so slender, and my fingers long and small,
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50 I served them as a Guardsman the best of them all.
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51 And serving with the Guardsmen, such sights as I did see,
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52 For the Hasturs dealt with Terrans and I served them faithfully,
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53 And buckling on my longsword, I'd often cause to smile,
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54 To think I'd served beside the men, and a maiden all the while.
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55 CHORUS
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56 But they never found my secret out until a day ago,
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57 When my troop was made an honor guard and to the court did go,
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58 There I met with a _leronis_ and she knew I was a maid,
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59 She went to my commander and so I was betrayed.
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60 CHORUS
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61 I went before Lord Hastur, and told him it was true,
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62 It's a shame, he said, to lose a valiant Guardswoman like you,
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63 So I sought the _Comhi-Letzii_, and they gladly took me in,
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64 And when my oath is given, I shall serve my lord again.
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65 Chorus: In the colors of the Hasturs, the silver and the blue,
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66 I shall stand among the Guardsmen as I've always longed to do,
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67 With my gentle waist so slender, and my fingers long and small,
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68 I shall serve them as a Guardswoman the best of them all.
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69 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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70 I picked that one up on Cottman IV (the natives call it "Darkover").
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71 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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72 *%*#*%_)#!*%_%+!#*%_)!@*%_#(%+#(%#*%_)@#*%_*_)#*^&)_#$*&_#)*@+@+#*^@*^_*^@_)*^_)@*@_)(@_*^_@^!+^!+*^_)@*^@_*@_^
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73 Ah yes...It is so good to see the return of Bard. Mayhaps his songs of fantasy and joy can bring a smile to the now
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74 frowning faces of so many users of Backwater.
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75 Mikey : I enjoyed your message on intelligence. An age old argument indeed. What is intelligence? Can it be measured?
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76 What is the use of measuring IQ? There are so many kinds of "intelligence", it would take a lifetime to measure all
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77 of them properly. Maybe that is the closest thing we have to a true measure of intelligence. What did a person achieve
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78 during his or her lifetime? The life experience is the only meter I can see into what people are capable of. Even then,
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79 fate has a way of slapping you in the face, regardless of your intelligence. Who knows how many geniuses have never
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80 been given the chance to express their intelligence. How many greats have been wasted? How many things have gone
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81 undiscovered due to fate, society, cruelty, bigotry, meaness, jealousy, hatred, and all the other human frailties
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82 we are all capable of. Even the life experience can't be a true test. What really is the use of all this measuring
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83 anyway? Is it another form of the incessant catagorizing we constantly do? I say we need to put less emphasis on IQ.
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84 Why burden people with the knowledge that they may not be as smart as others, according to some test that they take.
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85 Let them be happy with what and who they are. Let them try to make the best of what they have. I am sure we can all
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86 do without the worry that we may not be as smart as the next guy. Those who are at peace with themselves are the ones
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87 who are playing it smart. More power to them!
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88 _%*@#_)%*_@#)*%@_#)%*@#^*@#_ L'homme sans parity - Je m'apaise __*_@#@_*%_)@_*%_)@#%_@#*)_@*_)_)#^*#)_$*^#_)*^#)_*^_#)$
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89 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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90 Alex:the disign continues, I need to know if we are using 1/100ths of a second
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91 or 1/60ths. I would prefer 100ths as they are easyer to program in.
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92 (BCD and all that rot.) Ho hum, call if you can sunday, I am going nowhere.
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93 MiG
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94 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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95 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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96 The piper smiled listening to the bard's songs. Sitting back in his chair
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97 he called "Bravo, my friend, bravo!" Draining the last of his drink, he stood
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98 up and placed the pipes on his shoulder. Fanning out the three drones, the
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99 piper gently grasped the chanter and inflated the bag. Thumping the bag gently,
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100 he set the drones humming, then increased the pressure to cause the chanter to
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101 send out its eerie wail. His fingers flew over the holes in the feather-light
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102 wooden chanter and coaxed out a sprightly tune with ominous overtones -- his
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103 foot tapped quickly and his ears listened to the tune of 'Munloch Bridge.'
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104 When the tune was finished, he quickly started one called 'The Rowan Tree',
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105 then finished the set with 'Queen Victoria's Jubilee.'
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106 pppppppppppppppppppppppp
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107 To add my remarks to the discussion on intellegence --
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108 I believe that intellegence is not a single, testable, observable attribute of
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109 an organism or person. It is a constellation of attributes or abilities that
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110 some folks feel should be testable. We can catagorize many attributes of this
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111 constellation, but can only test for those traits that we have recognized and
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112 constructed tests to measure. In addition, all tests measure one attribute that
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113 the test designers are probably aware of but ignore thru a tacit consensus --
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114 all tests measure, in addition to the subject of the test, the person's skill at
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115 taking tests. When I was younger and in better form, I used to boast that I
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116 could get at least a score of 75% on any multiple-choice test that someone
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117 would name. I failed this self-imposed test twice out of approximately 15
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118 trys -- in subjects I knew nothing about. However, in doing so I did pick up
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119 some portions of the subject matter on which I was being tested ....
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120 I maintain that I was exhibiting skill in the art of test-taking, and a limited
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121 amount of intellegence. (It was not too intellegent to go to that much trouble
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122 for mere ego gratification!) Obviously "street smarts" are a set of skills that
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123 are related to intellegence, as are woodcraft skills, ability to breed and grow
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124 beautiful flowers, fix an ailing engine, butcher a steer, deliver a baby, and
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125 keep your house payments or rent current during a recession. How about the
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126 ability to resist or see through the blandishments of the salesmen on a used
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127 car lot? These and more take what we call intellegence -- something that will
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128 never be truly measurable because it includes potential -- potential that by
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129 the fact of being measured becomes overt.
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130 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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131 Hmm... Hav'nt been to the Inn in quite a while. Only a few familiar faces. Same decor thou.
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132 Same brand of ale....
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133 The Phantom Glitch
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135 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%9/2/64/12:04%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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136 ##
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138 #
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139 NOTE to owners of MACINTOSH with ProCom_M: the ENTER key gives a CONTROL C!
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141 *&^*&^ on the terminal training ..... the Phantom Glitch
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144 So, what is new? Not much and who CARES! This is getting really boring
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145 with the same old junk. Why do I logon? There is nothing else to do with
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146 this computer. It's still better than playing games that still suck.
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147 programming is no good, I have already done whatever you could do and it's
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148 like running into a brick wall over and over. This could be fun but everyone
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149 just talks about computer related topics and it's boring. I can't even
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150 think of anything other than computer junk. My mind is OATMEAL. It's
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151 getting better on the boards but it's still a long ways from fun.
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155 Hello again:
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156 Same message as last time, does anyone out there in the real world have
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157 docs for 'CRANSTON MANOR' OR 'ULYSSES AND THE GOLDEN FLEECE"?
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158 The games are made buy Sierra OnLine Inc.
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159 have a nice day
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160 the grizzly
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162 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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She came running before troubled winds,
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164 Seeking shelter in a squalid port.
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165 Her prow awash, her sails in tatters,
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The fires in her galley drowned by the sea.
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167 A gapping hole struck to her very heart
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168 Caused by an unexpected hidden reef.
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Her main mast lay shattered on the deck,
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170 Her mainsail lost to the tortured wind.
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171 A makeshift rudder made from the decking
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Replaced one long since lost to guide her.
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173 Awe and sorrow filled the port at this
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174 Seldom had such damage been witnessed.
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175
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And yet still she survived and fought.
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176 Nosing into the dock, she shuddered
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177 To a stop her ordeal at an end at last.
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Many months were spent in the repairs.
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179 Slowly and with great pain was the
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180 Damage repaired to her structure.
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181
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But the scars to her soul would remain
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182 Forever a part of her life and being.
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183 In time they would meld into the whole,
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184
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But for now they were raw and hurt.
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185 A long period of time was she at port,
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186 We had come to accept her as our own.
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In time her hull was made whole, her
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188 Masts restored, and new sails were
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189 furled on her arms, her fires restored.
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Her beauty adding color and life to our
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191 Ragged and dilapidated time worn docks.
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192 In our selfish pride did we forget
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193
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That someday she must leave once she was
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194 Whole and able to brave the open sea.
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195 Then one day it finaly did happen,
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196
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I found she had gone in the middle of
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197 The night, a barren gap in the docks,
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198 Leaving a gapping hole in my own heart.
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199
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Will she ever return to the docks again,
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200 To once more brighten the lifeless port?
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201 That she would call my port home again.
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202
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BH
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203 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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204 Can anyone help me with uploading? Will BW accept the 'whole file' at once
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205 or one line at a time? Does this system send XON/XOFF ?
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206
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207 HELLO,
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208 JESUS SAVES. (JOHN 3:16)
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209 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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210 Vic-20 Hardware...........
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211 memory cards......
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212 16K------$40
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213 8K------$20
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214
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215 Mother Planes $10 a port.......
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216 Call Greg at 692-xxxx..................
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218 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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219 To the person with the case of terminal burnout
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220 Maybe its time to take a break. Do something else altogether. Maybe
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221 take up photography or gardening or what ever. You don't have to have
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222 anything to with computers if you don't want to. And it sounds like its
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223 time to back off from it for a while.
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224 I've been there to
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225 CDP
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226 @*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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227 I can't believe how dead it is tonight!
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228 EN
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229 YEAH, NOT EVEN MIGGUY IS AROUND!
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230 Mig: The manual has been copied. (Don't ask where we got a copier that does
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231 11x17). Also have rough sketch "schematic" of auto-answer circuit from Al.
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232 L'homme: I have the *NEW* box of disks formatted. Will bring them & money for
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233 new archives to meeting. I hope 50 disks will be sufficient?
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234 To person with download question: BWMS does not send XON/XOFF. It doesn't
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235 support "All at once" OR "one-line-at-a-time" (ie prompted) xfers.
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236 You will have to find a way to send a line, wait a few seconds, and then
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237 send the next. Lottsa Luck!
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238 ___________________________Leonard______________________________________________
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240 ()><><><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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241 `````````/`/````````\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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242 +++
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243 ALAN PARSONS PROJECT PUTS OUT SOME OF THE FINEST MUSIC
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244 I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WHAT SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S TASTES LEAN TOWARD.
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245 Leonard: Thanks, I'll try it, I'm using color-com E which has a "send one
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246 line from transmit buffer, and wait for prompt--"
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247 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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248 M.M. (et al) - I do not feel that intelligence can be measured absolutely
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249 by anyone other than oneself. To quote from 'Desiderata'
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250 (Which was actually written in the mid sixties) 'Do not
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251 compare yourself with others for you will become both vain
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252 and bitter, for there will always be greater and lesser
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255 up for what I believed? Did I harm someone else by my lack
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256 of action or my action? Is there some way I could improve
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257 the outlook I have on life that I have not yet tried? That
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258 is my measure of intelligence. I am sure that I could beat
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259 some of you in I.Q. tests, and get soundly trounced by others
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260 of you. Yet I have more knowledge of what I do not know than
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261 I had yesterday. And each day I find new questions to ask.
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262 That is important to me, for I feel it is not the person who
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263 has 'all the answers' that wields the power, but the person
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264 who can ask the correct questions.
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266 All - Speaking of standing up for that in which I believe, I would like to
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268 503-224-xxxx
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270 All help and inquiries are welcome.
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271 (In the interests of fair play, will someone put up the number
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272 of the Ferraro/Mondale campaign HQ please?)
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274 Archivers - $24.00 is no problem, but 36 disks will take some time to amass.
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276 Mikey - Well put, above. Perhaps it is again time for a trip to that other
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277 establishment as we did so many months ago and saw the exquisite
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278 portraits of dragons by 'd', not to mention the lovely creature
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279 herself ? The M.T. bottle and deli, I believe. I was indeed in
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280 attendance.
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282 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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284 Laz. Well written, certainly admirable qualities, moral goals for some of
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285 us whose tolerance quotient is < others, however "IQ" means simply the c
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286 capacity to learn, not what anyone HAS learned. "IQ" has become a generic
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287 phrase which is intended to ask 'how much do you know about whatever'. What
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288 is your Jello, Kleenex, sports, Librium at Fred Meyer's pharmacy for 22% less
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289 sexual awareness of your partner, trivia IQ?" Safeway once distributed a
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290 bullein to all their produce department employees asking them to complete
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291 it, and return it to the store manager. The results were tabulated to deter-
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292 mine the "Fruit IQ"! (Ten extra points if you know what a Kiwi fruit is, and
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293 a bonus of 5 more if you know where Kiwi fruit comes from. "IQ?" It is a known
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294 quantity that black people score lower on "IQ" tests than white people. Some
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295 jerk psychologist 'proved' that a few years ago in a series of tests at UCLA.
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296 What he failed to consider was that the administered tests were for the life
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297 style of white people. I would dearly love to see a "IQ" test written by
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298 black people, and administered to a group of white psychologists! I'd like
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299 to see their "relative" scores!
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300 "IQ": I know literal genuises who are scared shitless of slum areas at night,
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301 but at the dinner table, have all the answers to the 'ghetto problems'."IQ":
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302 The application of ones abilities, and the resultant contentment factor (on
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303 a 'me generation' scale) are what(in my opinion) count. In other words, "IQ"
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304 has little to do with contentment. It is adjustment to ones lifestyle, and
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305 happiness therewith that really counts. If you have ever been exposed to the
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306 lifestyle of 'retarded' people, you would have observed that they are omong
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307 the most well adjusted, happy people there are.
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308 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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309 Leonard: The gods of chocolate will smile upon you at next PorSFiS, thanks for
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310 the manual.
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311 For the prople argueing intellegence and such, Bravo! I find that I am learning
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312 from you, and that is the highest praise I can give.
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313 On Alan Parsons Project, they do indeed put out some fine tunes. Matched only by
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314 Pink Floyd and a few others.
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315 MiG
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316 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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317 Migguy-Chocolate, no matter how exotic, does not go well with Porsfis ale.
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318 Or even Budweiser!. Thanks for the praise. I deserved it! Don't know about
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319 Parsons, but (old fogey ((that I be)(2.5x)),) I get off on Pink Floyd! Too
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320 bad you aren't old enough to remember Jethro Tull, Grand Funk, Blues Image
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321 , CCR, John Mayall, ---.
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322 Iron Butterfly first fluttered when you were in swaddling clothes, and the
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323 folk music of the early sixties was before your father ever 'concieved' of
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324 you. Say, how was the seminar on the 680 (whatever)? (yuk yuk, snicker, etc)
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325 Unknownguy
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326 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@*@*@
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327 Well it seems that the Mobius strip is back at the start again. The
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328 arguments have come back to intelligence VS stored knowledge. The Library
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329 of Congress has all the information you would need to pass any test of
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330 IQ ect. Access is truly different. Some have (rightly so) stated the most
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331 (all?) the tests for IQ are subjective based on the population that the
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332 tests are given to. So Some have also stated that the tests can be a learning
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333 situation. Others have stated basically the same thing in 'street sense' ect.
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334 The only conclusion that I can see is that the basis for a discussion of
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335 intelligence (not IQ) is the ability to deal with new and/or trying
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336 situations.
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337
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338 I like PINK FLOYD too. I think I'll go put on 'DARK SIDE OF THE MOON'.
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339
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340 Bye for now
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341 CDP
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342 @*@*@*@@*@@*@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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343 <+|+> {355} 09030235
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344 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ }
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345 U.Q. - They say that every discussion needs an unknown quantity. It's good to
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346 see you join this one. Incidentally, have you noticed how many people here
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347 have the first name 'unknown'? Maybe in this reality it's the generic name
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348 of choice. You raise some excellent points. Your comments about intelligence
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349 and testing reminded me of a story. This friend of mine has a beautiful
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350 parrot, that for some reason, hardly ever makes a sound. People who visit
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351 are always trying to talk to the parrot and inevitably comment on the
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352 parrot's silence. The friend is usually heard to mumble something like,
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353 'People sure place a lot of value on a talking parrot, do they ever stop
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354 and consider the value of a thinking parrot?'.
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355
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356 All the excellent comments here concerning intelligence and intelligence
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357 detectors has covered the subject thoroughly.
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358
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359 Mikey - I too vote for mass teleportation to the M.T. bottle and deli!
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360
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361 Laissez-faire - (see above)+ It would appear that you agree concerning the
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362 subject of the formulation of questions. It does seem that a good question
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363 always seems to produce a good answer. As a friend of mine sometimes says,
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364 'and all we got to go on is how things seem!'.
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365 My profession seems to vary from time to time. Having acquired skills in
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366 various areas, I use the ones that seem appropriate at the time. This
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367 sometimes takes the form of skipper for hire. (mostly boat deliveries,
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368 with a strong preference for sail) At other times it has been playing
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369 music and shuckin' around. (nearly starved) On occasion, such as lately,
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370 applying some mathematical skills to the art of software writing. There
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371 are others but I'll skip the boring details. So, take your pick. When I
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372 was a kid people were always asking, "What are you going to be when you
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373 grow up?". Finding that having no answer was unacceptable, I devised a
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374 list of quick answers. I would use the one that seemed most appropriate.
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375 Now people just ask, "when are you going to grow up?" and I can only
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376 smile.
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377
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378 Oxford Nursery Rhyme: Flappity, Floppity, Flip!
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379 The Mouse on a Mobius Strip.
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380 The Strip revolved,
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381 The Mouse dissolved
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382 In a chronodimensional skip.
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383 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ }
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384 IS THAT HOW I PUT A MESSAGE ON THIS BBS. MY NAME IS SANDI AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING HE
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385 RE. MY DAD HAD THIS COMPUTER BUT I ONLY GOT THIS NUMBER YESTERDAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER GIRLS O
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386 N THIS SYSTEM OTHER THAN ME? YOU ALL SOUND NICE SO I ENTERED IN THIS MESSAGE. ARE THERE ANYOTH
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387 MIKEY: THE ABOVE NUMBER IS NOT A BBS, IT IS THE NUMBER OF SOME VERY UNHAPPY
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388 GUY WHO DOESN'T THINK THIS IS VERY FUNNY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO VERIFY THIS, AND DELETE IT.
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389 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:++:+:+:+:+:++::++:+:+:+:
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390 Mikey: I deleted the message about the new board at that wrong phone number.
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391 I called and the man that answered was not amused. He requested that it should
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392 be taken down so I got to it before too many people saw it. It was right below
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393 The Mesolithic Mathmatician's message.
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394 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:++:+:+
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395 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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396 Unknownguy:I have "thick as a brick","aqualung" and "broadsword and the beast"
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397 A pirate copy of inagodinadavida (god, how do you SPELL that!?!)
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398 and everything Floyd has put out. The best of CCR also.
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399 And a little Arlo G. The rest I have never heard of. The 68020 seminar was a
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400 blast if you get off on single chips that run faster the VAX 11/780's ! not to
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401 mention that they fed us free donuts!
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402 Bye the way, does anybody here work for Intel?
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403 MiG
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404 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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405 (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_ (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_ (-)_(-)_(-)_(
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406 Luke here. What`s up???????
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407 (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_ (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_ (-)_(-)_(-)_
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408 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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409 Darth here, the FORCE is strong in that one!.
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410 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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411
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412 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\//\/\\//\\/\\/\\/\\\/\/\\/\//\\//\
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413 Han solo here, THERE IS NO FORCE!
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414 /\\//\/\\/\/\\/\/\/\\//\\/\///\\/\\/\/\/\\/\\//\//\\/
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415 ****************************************************************
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416 R2D2 here, beep beep whirl wizz bang sputter sputter beep beep!
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417 ****************************************************************
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418 opusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopus
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419 opus here, YEAH we blasted 'em
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420 opusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopusopsuopusopusopus
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421
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422
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423 && && &&
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424 For all of you into bizarre experiences, call "ATE-BYTE", and remember to try the following commands: G,T,S,K,U,D,N,F,& B.
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425 These aren't to be applied in any prespecified order, just remember to try ALL of them when stuck. And accept any help that's
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426 offered.
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427 && The Mad Actor &&
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428 Oh yes, ans to insert your own material try I followed by either D or N (depending on whether you want to insert it at the
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429 (ignore the "at the") as a subset of the current level (D) or as a new set following (N) ).
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430 Hail Eris!
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431 && TMA &&
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432 Migguy, I was kidding, moreless, about the music. But- you never heard of
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433 John Mayall? How 'bout Gustav Mahler?
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434 Everything you know is false!
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435 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
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436 ######################''''''''''''''''''''''To the person who thinks that
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437
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438 all programs which could be written have all ready been written:
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439 Ever hear of artificial intelligence? Try to get your computer to talk to
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440 you in English. That should keep you busy for a few hours.
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441
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442 Gerry
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443
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444 ''''''''''''''''''''''######################
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445 FOR SALE..........
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446 ------------------
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447 ATARI COMPUTER 800XL,1050 DISK DRIVE,1020 ATARI COLOR PLOTER,SEIKOSHA 100
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448 PRINTER,CASTTLE RECORDER,1030 MODEM,LOT'S AND LOT'S AND LOT'S OF SOFTWARE..
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449 CALL GUSS AT 626-xxxx..
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450 BEST OFFER TAKEN....
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451
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452 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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453 Interesting note.... On a terminal with proportional type spacing, the borders
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454 don't come out right.....
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455 the Phantom Glitch
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456 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%9/3/84%19:35%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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457 ::::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::
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458 MiG: I can't recall where it was (I think it might have been one of the
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459 Cheech & Chong records {MUCH better than those awful movies!}), it was
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460 stated that the three most often played songs were Happy Birthday,
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461 Auld Lang Syne, and In-A-Dadda-Da-Vida. (Needless to say, this was about
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462 10 years ago). By the way, I've got two copies of In-A... (albums, not 'copies').
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463 ::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::
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464 Person with Colorcom-E: If your software is waiting for a prompt
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465 from *YOUR* keyboard things will work out OK. If it is waiting for
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466 BWMS to send a prompt, forget it!
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467 ___________
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468 On the subject of music... Anybody got a GOOD reel-to-reel deck AND a good
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469 cassette deck? I no longer have access to a reel-to-reel and I want to make
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470 a copy of an old Crosby, Stills & Nash tape.
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471 ___________________________________________Leonard______________________________
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472 )(*%_!*%)_@#*%_)@#*%_#*%!_%!_#*%_@)#*%!_)*%!_*%_@!#)*%@_#)%@_#)%*@#_)*%@#_)%*@#_
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473 Entered from everyone's favorite computer, the PCjr!!! Yes they do exist in
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474 Portland.
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475 ___Leonard___ I guess we will see you Thursday. I trust you are not bringing
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476 all five systems that you own. Call to get exact time of pickup. Sundiver
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477 is great! I must certainly congratulate you on your Science Fiction
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478 collection.
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479 MIKEY: Sounds like the money will be there on Thursday. How about the disks?
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480 Archivers : Progress has been made. About 1/2 of the files now reside on
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481 IBM PC DD/DS. Now on to xfer to TRSDOS.
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482 voyeur : I appreciate your ability NOT to gloat. It is rare...rare indeed.
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483 Mig: I couldn't help notice your entry on the 68020, and your comparison
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484 to the VAX. Benchmarks can be so misleading, especially when they are
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485 published by the manufacturer of one of the components. After reading at
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486 great length the report put out by Motorolla, and the report put out by
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487 Intel (80286), and the report put out by National Semiconductor (NS16032 and
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488 family), I can only come to the conclusion that each of these reports
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489 are terribly slanted in the direction that their respective cpu excells
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490 at. And with the general acceptance of VAX being by far the leading
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491 supermini, what better target can there be for companies clamoring for a
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492 portion of that very lucrative market? It is advisable to be careful
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493 when speaking about such results. There are so many variables: bandwidth,
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494 clock rate, access time, amount of cache, type of programming etc
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495 that the benchmarks each of these comapanies claim to be conclusive
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496 evidense of the superiority of their product, are quite the opposite. Until
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497 an indepenant organization builds equivalant computers to do real
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498 benchmarking, I am afraid we are all at the mercy of the marketing dept.
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499 of each of these fine companies.
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500 )(*^$()*^$(#)*^#($)*^()$#^ L'homme sans parity %_)#$*%_)$*_%)*)_%*@#_)%*@#
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501
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502 ?
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503 THIS IS A TEST... THIS IS A TEST
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504 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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505 L'homme sans-
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506 All very true and correct. I think that you could have add
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507 that many companies employ ghost writers that submit 'unbiased' evaluations
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508 to the trade magazines. The purpose of course is to tout their product
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509 without it being an offical advertisment. Unfortunately the mags are
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510 caught in the middle of rejecting possibly biased material or presenting
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511 their readers with good info about what isreally
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512 hello?
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513 hmmm ... line glitch.
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514 anyway ... info about what is really happening in the industry.
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515 Let the buyer beware,
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516 CDP
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517 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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520 FROM PROMETHEUS: THE PUPIL
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522 QUIZMASTER; wHY HAVE YOU NOT ANSWERED ME? IF YOU MISSED TH QUESTION THEN HERE IT IS; WHAT IS AN INVISIBLE CHARACTER THAT
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523 WON'T MESS UP YOUR TERMINAL? ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
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525 MAN IN GRAY; I FIGUIRED THAT YOU ABOVE ALL WOULD KNOW WHERE I COULD GET A Z-80 TO REPLACE ONE IN A TIMEX-SINCLAIR. DO YOU?
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526 ENTER
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527 SHORT MESSAGE, BUT I AM TO BE A FRESHMAN TOMORROW SO I DON'T THINK I SHOULD GO WITHOUT REST TO- NIGHT ABOVE ALL NIGHTS.
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528
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529 AND SO THE CONVERSATION TURNS (YES, I LIKE PINK FLOYD TOO.)...
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531 PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE SD8409.04
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532 FROM THE DENTHIER... MT0???.??
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534 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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535 WOW, NO ROUTINE THING TO GIVE MY APOLOGIES FOR! GEE, I LIKE THAT LIMITED STATE OF PERFECTION!
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536 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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538
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539 I am truly amazed at all of this! There are simply no words to describe
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540 what is going through my head!
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541
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542 State-of-the-desk
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543
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544 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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545 Prometheus - sorry about the delay, I've been busy destroying a rather
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546 boastful Trivial Pursuit player 6 - Zip. (you know what it's like to be
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547 humbled, so I won't reveal his name <here>. Maybe CBBS/PCS in a private msg?
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548 Or maybe not).
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549 The only characters that cause any problems for me are ^R (18d), ^Q (17d), ^E (5d),
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550 ^T (20d) and ESC (27d). ^R opens input to buffer, ^Q dumps my buffer,
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551 ^E sends my identity, ^T stops input to buffer [a nuisance if I'm trying to
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552 download], and ESC does all sorts of dreadful things depending on what follows it.
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553 Oh yeah, 31d clears my screen. How about Zeros? That's a nice, innocuous character.
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554 By the way, I appreciate your concern.
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555 When are you going to get your lower case functioning properly? It really helps readability.
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556 (and it improves it's subconscious acceptance).
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557 Leonard - I've got a good reel-to-reel, but only a middling cassette.
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558 If you could supply a decent cassette deck, I could do the copying.
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559 L'homme - Thursday is PAUG, isn't it. Judging by the last two meetings I've been
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560 to, I think I'll pass. I will, however, go to the PCS meeting.
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561 Leonard again - I've got most of the CSN albums, would that make it any easier?
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562 To the person trying to upload - (a modification to what Leonard said about prompts)-
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563 If your terminal program is waiting for a prompt at each line, set it up to
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564 wait for BELL (7d). Then, while it is waiting, hit the backspace. This causes
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565 Backwater to send a bell, but doesn't embed anything in the disk.
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566 It works quite well for me.
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567 ?????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ???????????????????????????????
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568 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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569 L'homme:I too was sceptic, but having all of the material from
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570 all`3 bio manufactures(go for it speel alert!) I come to the`conclusion that
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571 the 68020 is by far`the fastest. The 32032 from national is the easyist to
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572 use and Intel is full of trash. The advertisements from Intel are wonders of slanted
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573 writing. The 80286 is slow, runs hot (has been known to melt chip sockets)
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574 and has no support. National has the compleat set out and avalible for you and me
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575 to buy.`I have used the 16032 and the motorola 68020 and find thav the 68020 is far
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576 faster. However it has no floating point`yet. All things considered I would`use the national
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577 chip set if I needed a fast system right now, the motorola in about 8 months.
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578 If your looking for a fast system chip set and have the drives around to do`it with the 68020 is indeed faster
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579 then the VAX as shown by`my own tests and those of motorola.
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580 Prometheus:In my box labled "major silicon" When do you need it? I am going to be downtown tuesday if you want`to arrange some
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581 thing. I may just drop by MLC`hsnicker)
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582 Hum, my monitor is doing the same things it did before it went`gaga last time so it may be a few days
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583 before my next entry(I know, no big loss...)
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584 MiG
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585 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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586 without any problems. True, I can only send one line at a time
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587 but it works, and takes up a lot less on line time than not uploading.
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588 Perhaps if I were to type in the ASCII code for return at the end
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589 of each line, I could upload the whole message. The Color Com E has
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590 variable time delay between characters. Perhaps if I
|
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591 slow it down, BW will accept more than one line at a time. Can
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592 anyone advise me on this?
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593 This was written before I read the last hundred or so lines.
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594 I lost the first line of the above upload.
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595 I am not using disc, but am typing in advance to the transmit buffer
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596 to upload. Does that make any difference?
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597
|
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598 Gee, one line left; Try PCS-CBBS later for mesg. Quizmaster; It only seems to work at the wee hours. No more room. Bye, Proha.
|
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599 Omen Technology proudly announces Professional-YAM (PC) introductory
|
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600 priced at $110 including a 160 page indexed manual punched for
|
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601 IBM style binders. YAM may be ordered from Wram Computers at
|
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602 (503) 641-xxxx. A descriptive file PROYAM.ANN descibing YAM's
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603 highlights has been uploaded. I would also like to take this
|
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604 oppurtunity to thank YAM's Beta Testers, especially Ward Christensen,
|
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605 Paul Homchick, John Griffin, and Pete Mackie, who have made valuable
|
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606 contributions to this product.
|
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607 -Chuck "This chick is TOAST" Forsberg
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608
|
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