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STATUS: ALL ALLOWED
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NUMBER OF LINES: 629
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ********************* REMOVED: 22 DEC 83 ****************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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25 WELL, I FILLED UP THE END OF THE LAST DISK, AND HERE I AM STARTING THE
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26 NEW ONE. OK, EVERYONE, HAVE AT IT!!
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27 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM![][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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28 That train analogy reminds me of an old joke:
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29 Adult to Kid:What if you saw two trains heading for each other at
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30 70 Mph on the same track?
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31 Kid to Adult:I'd jump, yell, scream, and wave my hands to try to
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32 get their attention so they'd stop the train.
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33 AtK:But what if that didn't work?
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34 KtA:I'd get my older brother Joe.
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35 AtK:What could he do?
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36 KtAOh, nothing, but he's always wanted to see a train
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37 wreck.
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38 ------------------------------------------------------- P. V. Jeltz --------
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39 <<-->><<-->><<-->>
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40 Greetings and salutations again. This is the real Merlyn (a.k.a.
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41 Merlyn #2, a title I hope will disappear in time). The train analogy
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42 ends at the point that you start discussing the size or direction
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43 of track. I have discovered that (believe it or not) when one drops
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44 ones need to be right about a subject, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE
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45 EVENTUAL OUTCOME CAN BE "WRONG!". Fundamental metaphysics here.
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46 Also an important point. The person that talked about "the right
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47 gauge track" or "leading to the proper destination" only elevated
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48 the problem to a new one of right vs. wrong. Right and wrong
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49 are merely an illusion... a comparison of HERE and NOW to some
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50 previously formed picture, thought, or pattern. THERE IS NOTHING
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51 BUT HERE AND NOW. Everything else is a lie, a hallucination
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52 made up by the observer to justify a particular behavior.
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53 Life wants to work... we merely stand in its way by being
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54 stuck with an old belief. Please notice that. It's true for
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55 you, for me, for all participants in the game. Nobody has
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56 a real, inherent, right way of doing things. Everything is made
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57 up from events from the past. Look! Listen! Feel it! The message
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58 has always been there. Listen to "Grand Illusion" by Styx from
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59 a while back. They had to have had a fairly accurate observation
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60 of this universe to write that song. Merlyn of old did too. He
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61 had to, to perform his miracles. Einstein was a modern Merlyn,
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62 in a sense, 'cause he had vision to see things that the rest
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63 of the world didn't yet. He saw the splendid order of the universe,
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64 and tried to bring the message back into a world of newtonian
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65 physics (definitely a hard job). My thoughts are running wild now,
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66 I'll go back to my point. Operating within a point-of-view is
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67 futile. All possible thoughts are shaped by the box in which
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68 you must think in order to maintain that point of view. In math,
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69 it's the same as solving a system of equations with one too many
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70 unknown variables... no matter how many contortions you do, the
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71 variable just keeps showing up, and the problem can never be solved.
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72 I'm here for no particular purpose at all, but to describe things
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73 that are as obvious to me as the sky above and the ground below
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74 is to you. Ask to get answers, but remember that all statements
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75 (including this one) are lies. Don't BELIEVE ANYTHING I SAY!
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76 Look for yourself, and see if what I SAY IS TRUE!
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77 Enough. Time for a viewpoint (it'll probably be on "illusions
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78 of reality").
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79 -- Merlyn (from times before, to present time, and in no time or place)
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80 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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81 >>> Hi, Alex. Long time, no hack. Just
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82 >>> here to say hello. Bill
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83 >>> Saturday, High Noon.
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84 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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85 ***************************************************************
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86 OK...THE COLLEGE KIDS HAVE HAD THEIR TURN. NOW IT'S TIME FOR
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87 SOMEONE TO SAY SOMETHING INTERESTING FOR A CHANGE.
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88 ***************************************************************
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89 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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90 Ditto. How much arrogant pomposity must one
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91 endure. Never have so many known so little
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92 yet talked so much. Enough
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93 Merylin #3
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94 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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95 So say something! Say something! Don't just complain, say something! We
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96 are waiting for your marvelous words! Or do you find it easier to complain
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97 about the work of others and not contribute anything of your own? There
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98 is a lot of space available here, so let's hear it from you. The worst
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99 form of "arrogant pomposity" is that which only detracts and never adds
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100 to the discussion. So get off your fat duffs and contribute, instead of
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101 just griping!
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102 Tired of the above Fools
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103 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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104 <<-->><<-->>
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105 For us newcomers, can some one please describe the leftover terms
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106 I noticed like "Inn" and "characters" and where BWMS got its name?
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107 Thanks.... Merlyn (the one and only, a.k.a. for now #2)
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108 By the way, I know who the other Merlyn was, so everything is cool.
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109 <<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->>
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110 MICKEY, LETS DO IT WITH THE COPYLINK (A GREAT AND DIVERSIFIED DEAL
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111 FOLKS, AND AVAILABLE FROM COMPUTER RE-MART, (I AM A DEALER FOR THIS
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112 FINE PIECE OF SOFTWARE AM I NOT CYSOP).
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113 I COULD NOT GET ON AT ALL TODAY SO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.
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114 HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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115 DON'T REMEMBER WHO ASKED, BUT DON'T HAVE ANY RELATIONS OR FRIENDS NAMED
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116 BILL, BUT HAVE A COUSIN FRED IN IOWA WHO IS MY NEAREST RELATIVE. NOT A
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117 BAD GUY BUT STILL OWES ME 20 BUCKS.
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118 TO EVERYONE WHO CARES DEPARTMENT* SOMEDAY I MAY GET INVOLVED IN YOUR
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119 MANY VARIED DEBATES, BUT I MUST TELL YOU THAT YOUR INSIGHT, CONCERN, ETC
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120 IS GREAT AND I THINK THAT IT IS GREAT THAT THERE IS A BOARD WHERE PEOPLE
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121 COMMUNICATE BEYOND THE I LOVE YOU AND FOR SALE LEVEL. (IT IS HARD NOT
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122 TO PUT A FOR SALE PLUG IN BUT REALIZE THAT IS NOT FOR THIS BOARD)
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123 MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL
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124 PPS-THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO SEEMED TO BE OFFENDED THAT I TO WAS USING THE
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125 ><><><> TYPE SIGN OFF SO I WILL STOP THAT WHEN ON THE BWMS AND CHANGE TO
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126 SOMETHING MORE APPRPRIATE
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127 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$RE-MART$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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128 $=SAVINGS
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129 ................................................................
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130 ALRIGHT. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS. I AM THE FIRST MERLYN TO USE THIS SYSTEM
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131 THE FIRST MERLYN TO USE THIS DISK IS MY TEACHER AND THE ORIGIONAL.
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132 BUT I AM THE FIRST AND WISH TO REMAIN IT. TO MERLYN #3: FIND ANOTHER ALIAS.
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133 MY GRIPE IF YOU WOULD NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T USE THIER IMAGINATIONS
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134 ENOUGH. BEING THE 3RD IN A LINE OF METAPHYSICAL MERLYNS IS HARDLY A
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135 POSSITION YOU WILL PROPHIT FROM. TO THE MERLYN WHO USED THIS DISK FIRST:
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136 IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE MERLYN TOO WE BETTER FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. WE
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137 CAN WORK ON IT SUNDAY AT THE PARTY OK? I AM NOT A HORSE!!!!!! I WILL GET YOU
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138 FOR THAT MY FRIEND. DID I TELL YOU ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL SYSTEM OF BODIES
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139 WITHOUT MINDS (NO ONE NEEDS ONE ANYWAY RIGHT?)? I THUNKS ME DID.
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140 WHO EVER SAID THE KNOW ME IS PROBABLY FULL OF IT. UNLESS THEY WERE TALKING
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141 ABOUT MY TEACHER. (CANT SAY HIS NAME) I AM UNKNOWN BY MANY BUT KNOWN
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142 RYWHERE.
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143 TO MY TEACHER (ONCE AGAIN): IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE MERLYN HOW
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144 ABOUT IF YOU MAKE A COMPROMISE SOMEWHERE. WE MAKE A COMPROMISE THAT IS. THAT
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145 IS MY REQUEST. GRANTED???
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146 ................................STILL MERLYN................................
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147 ........................................................................
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148 Leonard...button, button, who's got the button??? How is the you-know-
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149 what going? Finished yet?
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150 To Aaron...Discussion of major computer networks in this forum is a bad
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151 idea. The 'U' is a good place to meet. The lounge is good also. We can
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152 arrange times when stuff starts up again.
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153 To the person who keeps refering to 'College kids' in a derogatory manner,
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154 Why must you do things like that? Some of us 'College kids' don't appreciate
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155 such comments. I personally don't leave 150 line
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156 frech poems and such, but even if I did I don't think more space needs to
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157 be wasted with your griping about it. I could say alot more, but I don't
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158 really want to waste space on the subject, but I will use just enough to
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159 let you know how I feel.
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160 To Hrothgar...Here here on Rich's Cigar Store! I have never seen such a
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161 good selection of magazines! I too occasionally buy foreign magazines, and
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162 I totally agree with your opinion on the subject. Many things are written
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163 in those magazines that you would never see in the likes of Time, Newsweek,
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164 or shudder, the National Enquirer! Way to spread the word!
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165 ................tHE dROPPED bIT.......................................
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166 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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167 The E.P.A. today reported a new threat to the climate,
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168 called the "Whitehouse effect", which is producing
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169 overheated air masses, melting principles, and rapidly
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170 rising bilgewater levels. This is apparently caused by
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171 the uncontrolled yearning of fossil fools for higher
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172 office.
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173 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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174 ########################################################################
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175 greetings, and may your yule log burn bright!
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176 ############################ ARAFEL3 ###################################
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177 dROPPed bIT: i don't think the remark to "college kids" applied to
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178 you, he was just blown away over the little bit of imitation
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179 philosophy about the unknowable universe. Those of us who think,
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180 ore who merely read a little went through that phase too. I think i
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181 was in about 8th grade when i passed beyond it (or was it 6th??)
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182 #3, if that is where you are at, come back in about 6 months, even you
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183 may grow up. Or else validate your claim. Most of us have found out that
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184 there is a real world, and it is real, and knowable.
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185 ...................................RAY...................................
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186 !?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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187 MERLYN, THE TRAINDRIVER: YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING, NONE OF US REALLY
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188 WANT THIS TO END, BUT MOST OF US SEE THE NEED FOR CONSTRUCTIVE CHANGE. OR
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189 WOULD YOU RATHER ALL STAY SEATED, QUIETLY.
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190 !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?DEBORAH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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191 <<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->>
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192 Greetings and salutations (Unnecessary by now, I assume, but still
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193 a polite way to enter the conversation.) I DO NOT suggest that
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194 you, as interested parties in the continuance of the game simply
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195 sit by the sideline, but you may be spending more of your efforts
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196 convincing and conning the "opposing" sid than you are solving the
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197 problem. That may not be accurate either... remember that everything
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198 that I say is a lie. Some have referred to me as "#3", I dunno
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199 how I got that title. As far as I can perceive, I am only number
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200 two, and the one that "IS NOT A HORSE" is number 1, my student.
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201 I know nothing but what is immediately before me. I also know that
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202 the world will not exist as we know it today by the end of this century.
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203 It is time for the game to take a turn. It is the ending of the
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204 current phase, and a beginning of the new one. At the end of this
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205 phase, all survivors on the planet will realize that their brother
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206 is not a separate creature, but merely an extension of themselves.
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207 People are beginning to notice this already. Hooray for the good
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208 side of the force! I come only to point the way. It is simple, and
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209 you notice it from time to time already. The question "Why am I
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210 alive?" might be a good starting place. No, I am not trying to
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211 be religious... just a little bit of observation is all I ask.
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212 What is the purpose of the game (also called "reality")? What is
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213 you and your part in it? Enough talk... I'll fill up the disk in
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214 no time.
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215 -- Merlyn (from times of old, to present time, yet still timeless)
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216 <<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->>
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217 ****************************************
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218 Cute, but pointless. Solipsism is marvelous for philosophical discussions,
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219 but the action you called for is not possible from solipsistic thought.
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220 And if everything you say is a lie, oh Zen master, why should I pay any
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221 attention to you? What is the purpose of the "game"? There is no purpose.
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222 At least, none that pre-exists your definition of reality. Any purpose is
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223 created by individuals, for their own uses. And what action could one take
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224 through this medium? None, of course. You seem to assume that none here
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225 take actions outside of this medium, and that is typical of your mode of
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226 thought, which is filled with assumptions that you have no way of knowing
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227 or proving. As was said above, grow up a little. Sometimes pragmatism is
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228 more helpful than philosophy.
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229 ************Captain America************
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230 Merlyn, Master of Philosobabble
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231 ____________________________________________________________________________
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232 I'm going to stay out of this whole conversation.
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233 ---------------------------------------------------- P.V. Jeltz ------------
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234 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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235 APOLOGY
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236 I wish to apologize for my irresponsible slur
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237 against college students. My comment was
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238 immature and unnecessary. It was inspired by
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239 an unfortunate lapse of judgement brought on
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240 through exhaustion and discouragement. I am sorry.
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241 /////////////////////////TOO-EMBARRASED-TO-MONIKER/////////////
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242 [][][][][][][][][][] 1324 12/18/83 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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243 ALL: Whew!!!! Too rich for my blood.
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244 PAM: BASBBS is down. Fried IC. Glad that you are back, though, and
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245 I missed meeting you at the Not a Pizza. I have some goodies for
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246 you, do you have a disc, or are you cassette only ?
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247 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] DJJ [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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248 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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249 YES DJJ, I DO HAVE A DISK, AS I LONG AGO GOT TIRED OF "ERROR 143".
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250 I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO BASBBS, I'VE TRIED CALLING IT A FEW TIMES
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251 RECENTLY AND GOTTEN NO RESPONSE. WELL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT ISN'T A
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252 PERMANENT THING, EVEN THOUGH HARDWARE PROBLEMS AREN'T THE BEST THINGS IN
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253 THE WORLD. AS TO THE NOT A PIZZA, I HAVE A BAD DEFECT IN THAT I'M TERRIBLY
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254 CHICKEN ABOUT MEETING PEOPLE. TOTALLY TERRIFIED! BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO
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255 SEEING YOU UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.
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256 I WON'T COMMENT ON MOST OF THE ABOVE, EXCEPT THAT I HOPE THAT EVERYONE
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257 WILL CALM DOWN A BIT AND REALIZE THAT, WHILE ALL THIS IS FUN, IT REALLY
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258 DOESN'T MATTER. NOTHING WE SAY HERE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD ONE IOTA, EXCEPT
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259 PERHAPS TO GIVE OURSELVES AND OTHERS SOME NEW INSIGHTS INTO OTHER'S VIEW-
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260 POINTS.
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261 AARON, I AM WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH (UH, BAITED BAUD RATES PERHAPS?)
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262 FOR YOUR NEW SYSTEM. COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE? DID YOU GET YOUR
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263 HARDWARE? KEEP US INFORMED!
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264 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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265 DEAR PAM: VOLKOMEMMON, AND SALUTATIONS. AGREE ON CALMING DOWN. HOWEVER,
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266 DISAGREE THAT THIS MEDIUM DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THINGS.
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267 AN EXAMPLE: THE CURRENT HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE REAGAN ADMINIS-
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268 TRATION WAS ON 'FREEMAN REPORTS' LAST NIGHT. THE SUBJECT WAS THE
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269 RELATIONSHIP OF THE PRESS AND THE GOVERNMENT. HE DENIED THAT THE PRESS
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270 WAS UNDER ATTACK BY THE ADMINISTRATION. THEN THEY GOT INTO DISCUSSING
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271 HIS RESIGNATION. HIS NEXT JOB WILL BE AT THE AMERICAN HERITAGE INSTITUTE
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272 , WHICH IS A RIGHT WING POLICY TANK IN DC THAT SPENDS IT'S TIME FIGURING
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273 OUT HOW TO SUBVERT BASIC AMERICAN FREEDOMS, AND PASSING THESE IDEAS
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274 ON TO IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT, INDUSTRY, ETC. IT'S BASICALLY THE
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275 SAME FUNCTION AS PERFORMED INTERNALLY BY THE KGB IN THE USSR, BUT IN THE
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276 U.S. THIS FUNCTION IS OFFICIALLY 'DIVORCED' FROM THE GOVERNMENT AS
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277 SUCH, AND IS FUNDED INDIRECTLY AT PLACES LIKE THE A.H.I. BY GRANTS
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278 FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS.
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279 ANYWAY, HIS NEXT JOB IS EXAMINING NEEDED POLICY ON "DIFFICULT QUESTIONS"
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280 (NEWSPEAK FOR 'WE'RE GONNA SHAFT YA BUT DON'T WANT TO SAY SO')
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281 RAISED BY THE NEED TO KEEP ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FROM PUBLISHING
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282 ANYTHING AT ALL WITHOUT PRIOR REVEIW BY SECURITY AGENCIES, NO MATTER HOW
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283 LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE RETIREMENT AND NO MATTER HOW INNOCUOUS THE SUBJECT.
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284 AS WELL AS DISCUSSING AND DESIGNING POLICY FOR THIS AND OTHER MEANS
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285 OF SUPPRESSING THE TRUTH IN THE PRINTED MEDIA, HIS GROUP AT THE A.H.I.
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286 IS GOING TO BE EXAMINING THE WHOLE AREA OF DATA COMMUNICATIONS LIKE
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287 THAT WHICH WE ARE DOING HERE ESPECIALLY, I PRESUME. SO AT LEAST THIS
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288 KIND OF COMMUNICATION HAS HAD AN EFFECT IN THAT THE GOV. IS TRYING TO
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289 FIGURE OUT A WAY OF CONTROLLING US.
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290 THIS MEDIUM IS GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT FOR PROVOKING
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291 DISCUSSION AND DISSEMINATION OF THE TRUTH, I SUSPECT. ANOTHER ONE I
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292 AM INTERESTED IN IS THE XEROX MACHINE. IF YOU'RE AROUND OFFICES AT
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293 ALL OFTEN YOU'LL RUN INTO A HANDOUT EVERY WEEK ON SOME SUBJECT, OFTEN
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294 VULGAR, SOMETIMES QUITE FUNNY. OFTEN THESE HANDOUTS PRESENT THE
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295 VEIWS OF SOME GROUP ON SOCIETY. EVEN IF THIS MEDIUM (TELE) IS
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296 CONTROLLED EVENTUALLY, I SUSPECT THAT IT WILL BE HARD TO SUPPRESS THE
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297 USE OF COPY MACHINES.
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298 THIS ACCESS TO ALTERNATIVE PRESS EQUIPMENT CAN BE QUITE IMPORTANT.
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299 THE VIETNAM WAR PROVIDES US WITH A GOOD EXAMPLE. DURING ALL THE EARLY
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300 (PRE - 1971) PART OF THAT WAR THE REGULAR PAPERS AND NETWORKS GAVE
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301 OUT THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT VERSION OF THE WAR NEARLY EACH AND EVERY DAY.
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302 BUT PEOPLE WANTED THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WAR, AND SO IN NEARLY EVERY CITY
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303 A CHEAP TABLOID FORM PAPER OF SOME KIND SPRANG UP TO TELL ANOTHER SIDE
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304 OF THE WAR. THESE PAPERS WERE OFTEN QUITE BIASED AND INNACCURATE AS WELL.
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305 BUT THEY DID TELL SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE TOLD. FOR INSTANCE,
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306 THE 'LEGITIMATE' PRESS LEARNED ABOUT GOVERNMENT LIES ABOUT ENEMY TROOP
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307 STRENGTH THROUGH THE UNDERGROUND PRESS. I MYSELF, WRITING IN ONE OF
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308 THESE TABLOIDS (THE SO-CALLED UNDERGROUND PRESS WHICH WAS SOLD ON
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309 EVERY STREET CORNER) WAS THE FIRST PERSON WRITING HERE, AS FAR AS I
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310 KNOW, TO WRITE ABOUT THE COUP OF POL POT AIDED BY OUR CIA DURING
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311 PRINCE SIHANOUKS STAY IN CHINA (THE FORMER PRINCE OF CAMBODIA, A
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312 NEUTRALIST WHO TRIED TO KEEP HIS COUNTRY WHOLE AND OUT OF THE VIETNAMESE
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313 WAR, STILL LIVING IN CHINA SINCE HIS ESCAPE). POL POT AS YOU WILL RECALL,
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314 WAS THE MAN WHO PUT THOUSANDS OF HEADS UP ON STAKES AROUND THE CAPITOL
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315 AS DECORATION, AND THE REASON WHY MANY OF OUR OWN PEOPLE THINK THAT
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316 THE CAMBODIANS ARE BETTER OFF UNDER THE VIETNAMESE, AHRD AS THAT IS TO
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317 BELIEVE. THIS COUP WAS EASY TO PREDICT AS I READ THE PRESS OF
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318 OTHER COUNTRIES EVERY DAY, AND THE SIGNS WERE CLEAR.
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319 AFTER A WHILE, WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS
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320 WITH THE OFFICIAL TRUTH PUT OUT BY THE GOVT., THE 'LEGITIMATE '
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321 PRESS BEGAN TO DO GOOD REPORTING OF IT'S OWN. BY THIS TIME THE
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322 READERSHIP IF THE UNDERGROUND PRESS IN PORTLAND HAD GOTTEN TO BE OVER
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323 100,000 PER WEEK.
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324 LATER, ALL OF US "CANDY ASS LIBERALS", TO QUOTE A MARXIST AQUAINTANCE
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325 OF THE TIME, WERE OUSTED FROM THE PAPERS BY A NATIONAL COUP CARRIED OUT
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326 BY THE FAR LEFT. THATS ABOUT THE TIME 'KILL THE PIGS' GOT TO BE A BIG
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327 HEADLINE. WE COULDN'T STOP IT, CAUSE THE OFFICIAL OWNERSHIP OF THESE PAPERS
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328 WAS OFTEN IN DOUBT, AND THERE WERE MORE OF THEM, THE TAKEOVER WAS WELL
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329 CO-ORDINATED, AND SO ON. THEY LASTED ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE PEOPLE
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330 STOPPED READING THE PAPERS COMPLETELY, BECAUSE OF THE UGLY TONE THEY HAD
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331 TAKEN ON, AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAD BECOME OUT AND OUT PROPAGANDA
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332 ORGANS FOR THE FAR LEFT (WEATHERMEN, AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY, ETC)
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333 MEANWHILE, THE JOB HAD BEEN DONE. THE NATION HAD BEEN AWAKENED.
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334 AND THE WAR DID EVENTUALLY WIND DOWN BECAUSE OF IT. AT THE SAME TIME,
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335 THE EVIRONMENTAL AND CONSERVATIONIST, ALTERNATIVE POWER, TRUTH
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336 IN ADVERTISING, CONSUMERIST GROUPS, AND RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS GROUPS
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337 HAD ALL BEEN GIVEN A GOOD FOOTHOLD IN THE 'LEGITIMATE PRESS'
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338 THE POINT OF ALL THIS IS (YES, AT LAST), THAT IT IS NOT THE
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339 'LEGITIMATE PRESS THAT ONE SHOULD LOOK TO FOR PROTECTION. THEY ARE NOT
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340 THE 'FREE PRESS' THAT THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION WANTED TO PROTECT.
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341 THEY WERE REALLY MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING PEOPLE LIKE PAMPHLETEERS
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342 , FOR INSTANCE, THOMAS PAINE. IT IS THE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, SPEAKIN
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343 OUT IN WHATEVER MEDIUM HE OR SHE CAN GET HANDS ON, THAT PROTECTS THE TRUTH.
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344 IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF MILLION DOLLAR NEWSPAPER PRESSES AND $200 TERMINALS,
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345 THAT MEANS THE TERMINAL IS THE INSTRUMENT OF THE REAL FREE PRESS.
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346 AND PEOPLE WITH XEROX MACHINES. AND GRAFFITI SLOGANEERS WITH SPRAY CANS.
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347 WHEREVER THE PRESS IS HARD TO LOCATE, THE MACHINE HIDDEN, THE AUTHOR
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348 UNKNOWN, THAT IS WHERE THE REAL FREE PRESS EXISTS.
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349 BWMS IS A PART OF THAT. HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T DO TO US WHAT THEY DID
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350 TO HAM RADIO OPERATORS, WHO ARE EFFECTIVELY GAGGED.
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351 SOMEBODY WAS ASKING FOR EXAMPLES OF SUPPRESSION OF THE PRESS BY THE
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352 GOVERNMENT, FOR INSTANCE A PARTICULAR STORY. I OFFER THE EXAMPLE
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353 OF THE FCC AND NIXON AIDES CALLING UP NETWORK HEADS DURING THE VIETNAM
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354 ERA THREATENING TO CANCEL STATION LICENSES IF THE NETWORKS DIDN'T
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355 TOE THE LINE ON REPORTING THE WAR. REMEMBER AGNEW?
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356 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HROTHGAR, THE IMMANENT AUTHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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357 P.S. MERLYN IF YOU'RE SO ORIGINAL HOW COME THERE'S THREE OF YOU?
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358 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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359 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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360 Pam: official UNICOM status report:
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361 It appears that a multi-user version of the operating system that UNICOM
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362 was planned to run on is availiable. This OS will permit UNICOM to support
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363 more than one user on the system simultaniously (with extra phone/modem); so
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364 I have decided to write the system software under it. I should have a copy
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365 Monday. As to a BW type section, there is a distinct possibility that an
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366 extraordinarily good emulation of BW will be included. This is pending my
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367 decision of wether to use the BW hardware in UNICOM or in my private
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368 telecomunication facilities (I was originally going to incorporate it in,
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369 but looking it over It seems a little to nice to "throw away") (the BW
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370 hardware is a distinct module, and is entirely separate from the UNICOM
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371 base hardware). Other pending questions are (question was just resolved..
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372 it has to be this way..) wether to make the 256k ram look like memory or
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373 floppy or hard disk( resolution is hard disk ) (required for multi-user
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374 OS handlers..) System target date is still Jan 1. First month of opertion
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375 will be experimental; I will pay all expenses out of pocket, no montly
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376 dues will be collected until the system stabilizes. UNICOM member
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377 invitations will begin appearing on various boards solicting membership
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378 from individuals who have been responsible and creative enuf to attract
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379 my and my helpers' attention. General invatations will also be distributed
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380 soliciting intrested parties to contact me for membership evaluation; and/
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381 or user referendum (if i havn't seen enough of someone to judge their
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382 level of BB interaction, I will submit the question of their membership
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383 to the UNICOM public for vote).
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384 (note: will edit this text at earliest opportunity; I'm not in an
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385 editing mood at the present........)
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386 Aaron
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387 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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388 THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. I WONDER HOW MUCH IT
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389 STS TO START SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IF YOU HAD A WINCHESTR~ER HARD DRIVE,IT WOULD BE ALOT EASIER.
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390 HELLO I AM YOUR FRIENDLY HARD DRIVE SALESMAN. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING,
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391 GIVE ME A CALL AT 226-xxxx. THANKS
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392 ...............................................................................................................................
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393 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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394 SO. HERE IT IS FOLKS. THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF 'TOO MANY
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395 MERLYNS'. THIS IS THE FIRST MERLYN (BY THE WAY).
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396 I AM GOING TO CHANGE MY ALIAS. MY TEACHER AND I HAVE TALKED IT OVER AND SINCE HE WAS THE ONE WHO CAME UP WITH THE NAME I
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397 AGREED TO LET HIM
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398 KEEP IT. WE WERE THINKING OF ANOTHER ALIAS FOR ME AND COULD ONLY
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399 COME UP WITH 'CYNGUS'. I LIKED IT BUT AM NOT GOING TO USE IT. YOU WILL ALL SEE
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400 WHAT I COME UP WITH SOON. SOOOO, THE ORIGIONAL MERLYN IS NO LONGER MERLYN. THE SECOND MERLYN IS NOW MERLYN. THE THIRD MERLYN CA
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401 TAKE A HIKE. FIND ANOTHER ALIAS TOO WHILE YOU ARE AT IT. AND DON'T DARE USE THE
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402 SAME ONE I DO AGAIN. TO HROTHGAR: I AM ORIGIONAL. THE OTHER ONES MAY NOT BE. THEY ARE JUST CHEAP COPIES. (SORRY TEACH.).
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403 TO MERLYN (SINCE I HAVE RETIRED THE NAME): HAD FUN AFTER WE GOT OUT OF THE HAUNTED HOUSE. BUT LETS NOT EVER DO IT AGAIN OKAY??
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404 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NO ONE YET<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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405 TO ABOVE: TYPE "OFF" NEXT TIME, OR YOU MAY FIND PART OF YOUR MESSAGE LOST.
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406 SAME TO EVERYONE ELSE. PLEASE TYPE "OFF" WHEN YOU ARE THROUGH ENTERING, OR
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407 THE FILE IS NOT CLOSED AND YOUR LAST FEW LINES MAY DISSAPEAR FOREVER.
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408 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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409 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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410 I DID TYPE 'OFF'.
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411 ALSO TO HELP DILUTE SOME OF THE CONFUSION TO WHICH MERLYN IS WHICH....
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412 THE ONE WHO UNCLAIMED THE TITLE IS THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN HERE AT THE INN
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413 LONGEST OUT OF THE THREE.
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414 :::::::::::::::::::::STILL DON'T KNOW WHO I AM::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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415 !*!*!*!*!*! Pithy, Deb, pithy. I suspect Merlyn is only one. !*!*!*!*!*!
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416 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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417 HI! I'M NEW! CAN I PLAY? HOPE THIS BORDER DOSN'T OFFEND ANYONE, DOES IT?
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418 BOBBY.
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419 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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420 Hrothgar:I agree regarding usefulness of outside viewpoints (even biased
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421 ones!). I was in high school at "height" of 'Nam. Every day in "Humanities
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422 we would compare rough "transcripts" of network news with similarly rough
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423 "transcripts" made by some of us who could listen to Radio Hanoi, Radio
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424 Moscow, Radio Peking, etc. We realized that the instructors were sticking
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425 their necks out by encouraging this, so we tried not to be TOO critical of
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426 "our" side's news at school. But we still had a few instances of "where did
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427 get that DUMB idea".
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428 Would you (or anyone else) know where I could pick up or better yet,
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429 subscribe to, the English language edition of "Pravda"? The only line I've
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430 been able to get so far is on the Russian edition. Since I don't really feel
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431 like learning Russian, this isn't much help. (I wonder if CIS could be
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432 persuaded to put the TASS newswire on-line. Nah, It'd be too EXPENSIVE.....)
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433 Merlyn:re your "once you quit worrying about 'right & wrong' you will
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434 find you aren't wrong." I disagree, with the exception of moral questions
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435 right & wrong should be defined operationally. In other words, it is right
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436 if it works, if it doesn't work it is wrong. (& if it has no effect on the
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437 job or problem then it is irrelevant & superfluous).
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438 You have fallen afoul of the tendency of most languages to assign many
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439 widely variant meanings to the same word. Oh, and by the way, your "all my
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440 statements, including this one, are lies" is dealt with in most logic texts.
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441 Try "Symbolic Logic" by Irving M. Copi for instance. Basicly, you are
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442 confusing the object language & the meta-language.
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443 _____________________________________Leonard________________________________
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444 HROTHGAR: AN INTERESTING RANT IF I DO SAY SO. YOU HAVE EXPLAINED BETTER
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445 THEN I HAVE SEEN BEFORE THE TRUE CONCEPT OF BWMS. I WONDER IF ANYONE
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446 KNOWS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LAST FRIDAY? I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT, IT HAD TO
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447 DO WITH A CERTAIN PARTY IN BOSTON A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. ANYWAY, AS
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448 YOU SAID HROTHGAR, THE CREATERS OF THE CONSTITUTION (AND BILL OF RIGHTS)
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449 DID INDEED INTEND TO PROTECT THE LITTLE GUY. LEAST WE FORGET THAT THEY
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450 HAD BEEN IN THAT EXACT SAME POSITION THEMSELVES, AND WERE PAINFULLY
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451 AWARE OF ITS NEED. THE SANCTIONED PRESS WILL NORMALLY TOW THE LINE
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452 SIMPLY BECUSE THEY HAVE A LOT TO PROTECT, SO THEY DON'T WANT TO JEPORDIZE
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453 IT BY SAYING NASTY THINGS ABOUT UNCLE SAM OR WHATEVER. BECAUSE THOUGH WE
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454 DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE PRESS HERE, UNCLE ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO
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455 HARASS THEM IN ALL SORTS OF WAYS. I SUBSCRIBE TO WORLD PRESS IN REVIEW
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456 MYSELF, WHILE I FIND THE STORIES VERY INTERESTING, I FIND A GREAT DEAL
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457 OF INTEREST IN THE POLITICAL CARTOONS. YOU CAN TELL AN AWFULL LOT ABOUT
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458 WHAT THE FEELINGS OF THE COUNTRY ARE BY A SIMPLE DRAWING. (NOTE: THAT I
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459 SAY THE COUNTRIES FEELINGS, AND NOT THE PEOPLE. - TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
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460 ENTIRLY -) I ALSO SUBSCRIBE TO A NUMBER OF OTHER RAGS AS WELL, INCLUDING
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461 NEW SCIENTIST. WHICH IS A BRITISH SCIENCE WEEKLY THAT GIVES AN INTERESTING
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462 VIEWPOINT FROM THE BRITISH DIRECTION. I ALSO SUBSCRIBE TO REASON MAG
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463 WHICH THOUGH A BIT OUTLANDISH AT TIMES SOME REAL JEWELS CAN BE FOUND IN
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464 IT. THEY DELIGHT IN DIGGING UP NASTY LITTLE HIDDEN THINGS THAT THE
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465 GOVERNMENT WOULD JUST AS SOON BE LEFT HIDDEN. THE MAIN INPORTANCE HERE
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466 IS THAT REASON SPENDS AS MUCH TIME ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS THEY DO
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467 ON THE FEDS. THERE IS JUST AS MUCH (IF NOT MORE) LOCAL NASTIES AS THERE
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468 ARE NATIONALY. IN CONCLUSION, THERE IS ONE PHRASE COMING FROM A POLITICIANS
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469 MOUTH THAT FRIGHTENS ME MORE THEN ANY OTHER (FOR THAT MATTER OUT OF
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470 ANYONES MOUTH) "THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD." HOW WOULD THEY KNOW, THEY ARE
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471 NOT IN MY SHOES. BESIDES I HAVE FOUND THAT 90% OF THE TIME THEY ARE AFTER
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472 SOME THING FOR THEMSELVES AND COULD CARE LESS ABOUT MY WELFARE. (THE OTHER
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473 10% IS JUST MISGUIDED FOOLISHNESS.) THIS THINKING HAS LEAD TO AMONG OTHER
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474 THINGS THE HIGHEST TAX RATE IN OUR NATIONS HISTORY. (I WONDER HOW FAST
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475 OUR FOREFATHERS ARE SPINING?) (OH LORD I'M BEGINING TO SOUND LIKE ANON!
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476 I BETTER SHUT UP AND GO TO WORK.)
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477 ************* CISTOP MIKEY RANTING AGAIN *****************************
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478 P.S. THANKS FOR GETTING THE BALL ROLLING AGAIN PAM. THINGS WERE TO QUITE!
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479 ***************************************************************************
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480 <<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->>
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481 Greetings and salutations: 'tis I, Merlyn (now the one and only).
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482 People like to categorize my philosophy (if one exists) in many
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483 ways. Solopsism is *not* entirely accurate. All philosophies
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484 and religious knowledge systems FAIL if one approaches them as
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485 the answer to the way in which one knows. Only questions are
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486 powerful. But of course, questions are not what the Western
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487 thinker wants. Hence, the paradox. All your thinking is held
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488 within a box... you cannot even recreate my point-of-view within
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489 your current box. You attempt to label that which I project
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490 with terms that fit your current understanding. What I speak
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491 cannot be understood, only known (but not before it really IS
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492 known). My student (once known as Merlyn #1) will choose a new
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493 name. I will be around, as I always have been. Pragmatism
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494 is the ONLY answer. Merely notice what works and what doesn't
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495 work. Do not be fooled into believing that what you have
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496 figured out that MUST work will necessarily work. Only
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497 that which produces results, produces results. Be aware, be
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498 concious, but mostly be able to ride the horse in the direction
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499 it is going. In a you vs. the universe struggle, the victor
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500 is obvious. Think about it, but don't think about it.
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501 -- Merlyn (creator of enlightened bullshit, to confront the masses)
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502 <<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->><<-->>
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503 ###############################################################
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504 THIS IS PRETTY PRAGMATIC STUFF, MERYLN,
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505 WHERE'S THE IMAGINATION YOU PROMISED?
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506 Walt Disney
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507 ###############################################################
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508 Oh sure, I know all you cynics out there will say Walt Disney
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509 is dead. Well so what. Alot of nice people are dead and
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510 it doesn't make them any less nice. I think we should be
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511 thankful that Walt took the time to join us today.
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512 ###############################################################
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513 As for me.....give me poetry, or give me a good ol' Tea Pahty. PRevere
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514 oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo
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515 .........................................................................
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516 Aaron...regarding Unicom, it sounds like your system is moving right along.
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517 I imagine you, as a person who knows something about getting on other
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518 computers, are trying to incorporate as much protection as you can into
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519 the system. Another point...awhile back you mentioned you were NOT going
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520 to monitor the system(ala BWMS) as far as message content goes, except
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521 for the usual deletion of 4-letter messages and such. With some of the
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522 recent rulings and new laws in certain states regarding computer
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523 operators(sysops) responsibility for what information is presented on their
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524 system, are you thinking of modifying your policy? Also, in registering
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525 next term for the `U', what does your schedule look like so far? Like
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526 I said before, meeting there sounds like a good idea to me.
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527 To Hrothgar...You certainly do have an interesting past! Since I was merely
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528 a tyke in the days of vietnam, about the only thing I remember clearly
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529 about the media's reporting of the war was the body counts given at the
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530 end of the 6:00 news every night. Where they would show a little blue man
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531 and he represented the Americains, and a little red man, and he represented
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532 the enemy. War reduced to nothing more than statisitcs, given in monotone.
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533 A sad state of affairs indeed.
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534 To PAM. Another person glad to see you back too. Regarding your comment
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535 about the uselessness of our debate: If even one person gets a little
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536 better understanding of the world around him through the messages on BWMS,
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537 then I think the discussions here have changed something. Maybe nothing
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538 major, but something. To me, BWMS has evolved beyond a simple medium to leav
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539 messages, it has become something I use to expand my horizon. Several
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540 times I have printed or captured text for later perusal. Sometimes I
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541 have brought some of the better compositions to work for me fellow
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542 workers. It may be small, but BWMS does serve a useful purpose, as I am
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543 sure you will agree. thanks
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544 ...............tHE dROPPED bIT...........................................
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545 PS TO RAY...You are right, but I unfortunatly find a lot of prejudice
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546 toward young people, and I sometimes get a little carried away defending
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547 my age too. Sorry.
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549 HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED HOW THEY OVER-USE THE WORDS 'THICK AND RICH ON TV?
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550 IT REALY BUGS ME. HAS ANYBODY EBER~~~VER TASTED SHAMPOO TO SEE IF IT IS
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551 THICK AND RICK~H? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
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552 OH WELL I WILL BE BACK LATER WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ANNOY ME.
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553 Andy Roony
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554 RTLKMDFS
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555 *************************************************************
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556 PAM -- a breath of sweet reason amidst the gnashing of bits.
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557 Of course, everything we say is important to each of us who
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558 says it, but what most fail to realis
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559 PAM -- a breath of sweet reason amidst the gnashing of bits.
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560 Of course, everything we say is important to each of us says
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561 it, but what most people fail to recognize is that often
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562 nobody is really listening.
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563 LEONARD -- I don't know where you can pick up an English
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564 language edition of Pravda locally, but even the cheapest
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565 short wave receiver will pick up Radio Moscow, which has a
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566 particularly strong signal here on the west coast. I think
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567 you'd find it pretty dreary listening though.
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568 - POPS
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569 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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570 P.S. -- sorry for the repeat on the PAM message; with
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571 call waiting feature on phone it disconnencts modem
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572 every time somebody calls; another great Ma Bell service.
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573 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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574 WELL NOW!
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575 DEAR LEONARD : DO'T KNOW ABOUT PRAVDA. I'VE ALWAYS FOUND IT A PRETTY
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576 SLOW READ, MYSELF. IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I SAW IT AROUND PORTLAND,
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577 ANYWAY. MIGHT TRY U OF O BOOKSTORE OR REED COLLEGE. REED MIGHT BE THE BEST
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578 BET, IN FACT. I AM ASHAMED TO ADMIT THAT I AM NOT READING ANYTHING
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579 FROM THE EAST BLOCK REGULARLY RIGHT NOW. READ 'KRUSCHEV REMEMBERS',
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580 HIS UNDERGROUND MEMOIRS, RECENTLY THOUGH, AND FOUND IT QUITE INTERESTING.
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581 THE FACT THAT BREZNEW AND THE NEO-STALINISTS LET HIM LIVE AFTER
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582 TAKING POWER IS REALLY A MILESTONE I CAN APPRECIATE NOW FOR THE FIRST
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583 TIME.
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584
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585 MIKEY : WHERE CAN YOU PICK UP A COPY OF 'REASON' MAGAZINE?
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586 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HROTHGAR (BREVITY INCARNATE)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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587 P.S. THAT MEANS I HAVE TO EAT NOW - MUNCH OVER MIND
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588 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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589 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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590 hi;; my name is Kathryn, this is my first time, how do you like me so
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591 far?! I really wish that everyone could see Yentl it is a really though
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592 t provoking movie, Barbra Striesand did a very good job, what do you t
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593 hink ?
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594 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ KAD @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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595 Howdey, thes har iz batter tha" th" C"m B'm. B. Cata" (BILLY)
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596 !@#!@#!@#!@#!@#!@#!@#!@#!@#!@@#!@#!@#$%^#$%@#$@@
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597 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$
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598 I am totally appalled at the ignorance and unconformation of this "year
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599 mochine and of speclly that there blilly whats his name. see yall around
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600 the pool hall.........8 ball in the corner pocket.............,hyuk hyuk.
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601 WDPT
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602 ____________---____-----__________----------______--------!
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603 TSK TSK PAM, YOUR SLIPPING! YOU MISSED FILLING THE LAST TWO LINES
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604 OF THE LAST DB. (I DO ADMIT THAT I HAD BEEN PLAYING AROUND WITH IT
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605 THOUGH). IT USE TO BE FULL. OH WELL....
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606 ************** CISTOP MIKEY **************************************
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607 <>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
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608 Go to the devil Grand Dragon Master. How dare you reveal our governments secret plans for infiltrating the United States!
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609 You and your capitalist dog friends will soon feel the hot steel of syrian swords in your gullet. Up until now, we have had
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610 total sucess fooling you idiot americans into believing we were one of your kind. How silly you are, trying to protect those
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611 horrible jews in Isreal. Do you really think you can fight a war of attrition from 5000 miles away. We know the middle east
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612 as if it were our backyard. You are the outsiders, ans you will soon pay for your transgressions. Infidel! Die Die Die!!!!!!
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613
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614 your friend, Abdoul Muhasiam Addaba
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615 <>><>><>><>><>><>><>><>><>><>><>><<>><><><>>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><
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616 PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO? PAM? HELLO?
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618
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619 MIKEY, I THOUGHT I DID FILL THAT DISK UP. IN FACT, I KNOW I DID! THE
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620 BW SENT ME THE "* ONE LINE LEFT *" AND "* FILE FULL *" MESSAGES AS I
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621 FINISHED, SO I DID INDEED FILL IT UP. OH WELL, UNLESS PART OF MY MESSAGE
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622 WAS ERASED, IT PROBABLY WAS YOUR PLAYING AROUND WITH THE DISK THAT CAUSED
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623 THE PROBLEM. WOULD THE "COMPRESS" COMMAND THAT YOU HAVE CRYPTICALLY MEN-
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624 TIONED CAUSE THIS? OR IS IT ALL IN MY IMAGINATION?
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625 YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY, I HAVEN'T DISSAPEARED AGAIN, BUT MY HOURS HAVE
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626 BEEN SUCH RECENTLY AS TO ALLOW ME TO ACCESS THE BW DURING IT'S PEAK HOURS,
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627 AND SO I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH LUCK GETTING ON. BUT I DID TODAY!
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628
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629 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM![][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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