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NUMBER OF LINES: 620
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ******************** REMOVED: 27 SEP 83 ******************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 JEEZUS!! I CAN'T STAND IT!! SAN ! ANOTHER BLANK DISK STARING AT US.
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26 IN REFERENCE TO THE THANKFULNES& ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'LL HAVE TO AGREE WITH 'DOM'. GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT EXCEPT
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27 BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE DEAD AND CRIPPLED MEN THAT HAVE FOUGHT OUR 'HOLY' WARS IN THE PAST. AFTER ALL IF IT WASN'T FOR R
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28 RELIGIEION WE WOULDNT HAVE ANY WARS! JUST LOOK BACK IN HISTORY!
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29 THE BLOODY CRUSADES, CHRISTIANITY AGAINST ISLAM ETC.
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30 WW II, HITLER AGAINST THE JEWS
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31 VIETNAM, CHRISTIANS AGAINST ATHIESTS (REDS)
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32 LEBANON, JEWS & CHRISTIANS AGAINST THE MOSLEMS ETC.
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33 SAN SALVADORE, ANOTHER VIETNAM.
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34 IF ONLY WE COULD GET RID OF ALL THE BIBLE THUMPING BIGOTS IN THIS WORLD IT MIGHT BE A HALF-WAY DECENT PLACE TO LIVE.
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35 WHEN I THINK OF ALL THE BLOOD THAT HAS BEEN SPILLED IN THE NAME OF SOME STUPID FIGMENT OF THE IMAGINATION (GOD) AND ALL THE M
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36 MONEY SPENT IN THE SAME WAY, IT'S NO WONDER WE HAVE SUCH HIGH TAXES. IF ALL THE CHURCHES PAID THERE OWN WAY, IE; TAXES;MX MI
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37 MIS&SSELS; TRIDENT SUBMARINESS; ETC. WE WOULDN'T NEED TRILLION DOLLAR DEFENSE BUDGETS!
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38 ###################C.Y.M.#######################################################
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39 CYM: You had better re-check your history. There have been wars
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40 in which religion played very little part. I suspect that while
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41 removing the "bible-thumpers" (of ALL faiths) would improve things
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42 greatly, we would still have LOTS of trouble. (by the way, Marxism
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43 as practiced in most communist countries, bears a marked resemblance
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44 to a revealed religion!)
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45
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46 BAD: I hate to tell you this, but after puberty there are only
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47 two effects from castration. 1. You are no longer fertile.
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48 2. You may have PSYCHOLOGICAL problems (impotence etc).
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49 You see, the Adrenal glands will still supply an adequate amount
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50 of testosterone. It may reduce the level, but for that Depo Provira
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51 is a much simpler (& less final) solution. I don't recall saying
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52 much about "easy" solutions, except perhaps that they usually wind
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53 up being more trouble than the original problem.
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54
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55 DOM: I hate to say this, but I GOOFED! I really wanted the square
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56 root of MINUS i (-i). Somehow, I forgot BOTH "-" signs. Sigh....
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57
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58 I once heard a "unique" solution to the drug problem suggested:
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59 Remove ALL restrictions on the sale & use of drugs by ADULTS.
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60 In a few generations, natural selection will have taken care of
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61 the problem. Anyone dumb enough to misuse drugs, or to use them
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62 improperly (antibiotics, painkillers, without knowing what they
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63 are doing) will eliminate themselves from the gene pool.
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64 I didn't say I AGREE with this, but it IS an "interesting" point
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65 of view!
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66 ___________________________Leonard__________________________
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67 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
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68 I'm not a very religious person, but I think if you examine history carefully;
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69 you'll find that most wars are based on economics rather than religion. This
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70 includes Viet Nam, WWI & WWII. A prime example would be the U.S. Civil War.
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71 On the face, it seemed to have been fought over slavery; but the real factors
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72 are economic. An agrarian South vs. a industrial North...northern control of
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73 the legislature, thus the enactment of laws and tarrifs to benefit industry and
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74 hamstring southern agriculture.
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75 Michael
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77 FT BY: LOCK BUSTER
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78 DATE POSTED: TUE MAR 23 10:13:41 PM
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79
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80 THE FOLLOWING IS FORMATTED FOR AN 80 COLUMN PRINTER
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81 USING LOCKBUSTER ][
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82 IN SAVING THE CONTENTS OF A 48K MACHINE TO DISK, SEVERAL PROBLEMS ARISE:
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83 1) IN ORDER TO GET CONTROL AWAY FROM A PROGRAM, THE RESET KEY MUST BE USED.
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84 RESET IS HIT, THO, ESSENTIAL PARTS OF MEMORY (PAGE ZERO, THE STACK, THE
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85 YBOARD BUFFER AND THE SCREEN) GET CLOBBERED.
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86 2) TYPICALLY, DOS ISN'T IN THE MACHINE AND NEEDS TO BE LOADED, AND THE
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87 ESS OF LOADING IN DOS WIPES OUT MORE PARTS OF MEMORY.
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88 ONCE DOS IS LOADED, IT WON'T ALLOW BSAVES LONGER THAN $7FFF BYTES
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89 LOCKBUSTER ][ ADDRESSES THE FIRST PROBLEM. THE CONTENTS OF PAGES 0 THRU 7
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90 CATONS $0-$7FF) ARE MOVED UP TO $800-$FFF BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS DONE.
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91 IS PRESERVES A COPY OF EVERYTHING WHICH NORMALLY GETS WIPED OUT (BUT OF
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92 OURSE DESTROYS WHATEVER WAS IN $800-$FFF).
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93 AVING THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF MEMORY (WORSE CASE!) IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS,
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94 NCE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMETHING'S GONNA GET WIPED OUT. THE PROCESS
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95 ESCRIBED HERE WILL SAVE OUT FOUR CHUNKS OF MEMORY TO THE DISK. THESE
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96 CHUNKS RESIDE IN THE FOLLOWING RANGES:
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97 $0000-$07FF
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98 $0800-$08FF
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99 $0900-$97FF
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100 $9800-$BFFF
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101
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102 ORDER TO SAVE OUT 48K, YOU'LL NEED AN OLD MONITOR ROM (NOT THE AUTOSTART
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103 ), LOCKBUSTER, AND A 48K SLAVE DISK. THE WORSECASE PROCEDURE FOR SAVING
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104 HI SUE WE ARE HAVING A BLAST WITH THE KAYPRO IF YOUWANT TO CHECK OUT THE DETAILS PLEASE CALL ME AT THE OFFICE.
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105 /////////?
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106 what the hell was that?
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107 //////////
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108 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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109 FOR SALE:
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110
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111 pH METER, Model 601A (Orion 060102) -Digital meter with
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112 1.5cm high, 7-segment LED display, readable up to 33 feet.
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113 Unit features manual and automatic temperature compensation,
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114 variable isopotential point (pH 6-8), slope indicator, Karl
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115 Fischer polarizing current, absolute and relative millivolt
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116 modes and tilt base which allows unit to be set between
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117 0-30 degrees tilt. Numerals are blanked with polarity sign
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118 for out-of-range indications. Amplifier drift is less than
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119 100 micro-volt/degree C and unit is equipped with BCD output
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120 for interfacing to printer (orig. equip.). Steel case is
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121 protected with scratch-resistant and chemical-resistant poly-
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122 ester paint. Dimensions: 33 w x 18 d x 9 cm h. Specs:
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123 range=0-13.99 pH;-1999 - +1999 mv
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124 Accuracy/Reproducibility=+/- 0.01 pH; +/- 1 mv or 1% of reading
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125 Temperature compensation=0-100 degrees C
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126 Input impedence=10 to the 13 ohms
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127 list price=$795
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128
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129 will sell to best offer recieved prior to next friday...
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130 funds going to a public access data base system here in
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131 good 'ol portland.....
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132
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133 Aaron (661-xxxx)
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134 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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135 addendum:
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136 unit includes a box of various-condition pH electrodes,a case of buffer
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137 solutions, buffer mix, manual, and electrode holder.
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138
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139 additional "for sale":
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140
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141 glassware:
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142 if you can name it; chances are good i have a case of them
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143 offer me something......
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144
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145 reagents:
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146 everything (except solvents)......most unopened..
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147
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148 filter media:
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149 lots!
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150
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151 Torsion Balance/mass set/weighing papers.....
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152 any offer excepted (even irrational!)
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153
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154 Water Purity meter:
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155 micro-mhos, good for testing purity of distilled H2O....
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156
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157 no; federal agents arn't coming after my home drug labratory,
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158 this equipment was just for hobby use......most unoppened and new..
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159 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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160 Oh, C.Y.M: I think you are about to receive a particularly scathing message
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161 vis-a-vis the beating of drums and of Bibles! Head for the hills.
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162 Go easy on the poor soul, little one: charity befits you. Dave
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163 +++++++++++============================++++++++++++++++========+++++++++++++
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164 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23 Sep 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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165 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23:23 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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166 So, so wrong, Dave...though it is good to hear the chuckle in your
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167 voice, and I can just picture you sitting back with bright, dancing
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168 eyes, ready for the wild fight you think is coming...
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169
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Aaron, long-lost traveler! How wonderful to finally hear your
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170 exuberant greeting above the hubbub; and how astonished was I at the
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171 warmness of your tone...religion, a 'middle ground' say you?! Ach,
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172 Aaron, you chose the wildest controversy of them all--! But I will
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173 not shrink back from this controversy, for the Bible happens to be one
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174 of the few subjects I know thoroughly. (It happens to have a great
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175 deal to say about Life, the Universe, and Everything, not just sad
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176 tales of heros, or flourished poetry about shepherds...)
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177
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Religion (as a whole--both Christian and pagan) happens to be
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178 described in the Bible as a despicable prostitute, entirely unfit to
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179 represent God, as follows: "Come, I will show you the judgment upon
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180 the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the
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181 earth [governments of today] committed fornication, whereas those who
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182 inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication...
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183 upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: 'Babylon the Great,
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184 the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.'
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185 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones
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186 and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
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So you, CYM, are quite
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187 justified in condemning the hypocrisy of religion that claims to teach
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188 peace and yet is the cause of so much anguish via so-called 'just wars'!
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Nevertheless, God is not watching this scenario benignly; in fact,
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190 The angry sentiment you expressed regarding these hypocrites; i.e. "if
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191 only we could get rid of all the Bible thumping bigots in the world..."
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192 is actually a fulfillment of prophecy, for the governments are even now
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193 growing weary of the power religion wields, and that is Precisely what
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194 they are going to do! "And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild
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195 beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and
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196 naked, and will eat up her fleshly parts and will completely burn her
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197 with fire...because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong."
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198
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Why don't you pull out that dusty volume in your own library, CYM, and
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199 enjoy the description of religion's "shameless luxury" and her foretold
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200 destruction, in Revelations chapters 17 and 18?
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201
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202 ################################################################################
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203 TO;: > D <
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204 I HARDLY NEED TO GET OUT THAT VOLUME OF FICTION TO KNOW OF WHAT I SAY. THE BOOK
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205 YOU REFER TO IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE IMAGINATION OF MANY GONE BERZERK UNDER THE
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206 INFLUENCE OF THE UNKNOWN AND SOMEONE PROFES&ING TO KNOW ALL.
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207 I STAND BY MY STATEMENT ABOVE THAT ALL, I REPEAT ALL!! WARS ARE OF A RELIGIOUS
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208 CAUSE! TRUE THAT THERE ARE FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS TOO BUT THEN NEVER ENOUGH TO
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209 DESTROY THE 'CHURCH'.
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210
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211 ################C.Y.M.##########################################################
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212 In the beginning, God created Man. And Man, being a gentleman, returned the
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213 favor.
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214 ****************************************
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215
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216 OK, then, a revised comment:
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217 Thank God (if you exist and will just stop making wars, that is if it is
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218 you making them and not those that worship you) for the Native Americans
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219 and the Afro Americans and those that died in wars and all those dead and
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220 crippled men and bigots (with or without Bibles) that have made America
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221 so great!!!!!
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222 Oh, by the way, what do you do when you punish someone for a crime in a
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223 totally irreversable way (such as cutting off their hand)?
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224 Why, you say "Gee, fella, sorry about that! Let me shake your stub!"
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225
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226 ************Captain America*************
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227
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228 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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229
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230 Captain America: I would certainly like to know what you think is so
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231 "great" about USA (I presume thats what you are referring to as "America").
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232 Could it be the anemic economy? Or maybe its the corrupt government
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233 or the practice of military expansionism. How about the freedom of
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234 religion (as long as its Christianity).
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235 How about the astronomical crime rate or the prevalence of bigotry.
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236 Yes, we certainly have much to be thankful for; and CYM is right; we owe
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237 all of the above to God and Christianity.
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238 Although I do not contest many of the moral values professed by Christianity,
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239 It has never been my "pleasure" to meet a Christian who has gone beyond
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240 professing and has actually practiced these values. Perhaps the greatest
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241 attraction to Christianity for most, is the belief (or pretence) that
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242 immoral (sinful in Christianese) behavior is readily forgiven by God
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243 through prayer. This affords them the ability to commit any transgression
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244 they desire and still have the opportunity to be forgiven (in God's
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245 eyes) and thereby released from guilt.
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246 Though I have many thoughts to relate on this subject, I am becoming increas-
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247 ingly aware that my present semiconcious state is somewhat inadequate
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248 for the formulation of a logical (and grammatical) argument, so......
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249 To be continued when I'm fully awake.
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250
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251 Dirty Ol' Man
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252
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253 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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254 Altho I have several translations of the Bible, and have studied all
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255 of them extensively, I will not pretend to be able to interpret it
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256 fully, and anyone who professes to know what Revelations is all about
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257 is either lying of crazy. I will say, though, that religion is rarely
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258 a cause of war; many other reasons exist & since most differing factions
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259 have a different brand of religion it is a convenient label for them.
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260 If economicss and the desire for power aren't enough, the desire for
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261 freedom is. The wars of the recent past haven't even referred to it.
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262 Hitler didn't make war on the Jews (who were a race, not a religion to
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263 him), he tried to exterminate them, as he did to the rare blacks in the
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264 country (and all non "Aryans"). Most religions profess a desire for peace,
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265 unfortunately the humans who must carry out this desire have the same
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266 failings as the rest of us & don't know how to make peace.
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267 I see a suggestion that making drugs (of all kinds) freely available
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268 would eventually reduce the problem. No way. The misuse of antibiotics
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269 (and overuse) has already hurt all of us, by reducing there value. Even
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270 if it only hurt the abuser, it would not help because evolution is slow,
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271 and killing a few off could only affect evolution if these few were the
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272 only ones who carried a gene that caused them to misuse the stuff, and
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273 none of the rest of us did. This is very unlikely. Next if it is freely
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274 available to "adults", how do you keep it from the children? Of course
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275 you might want to poison these, as they will die more easily. The abuse
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276 of mind affecting drugs already is the major cause of traffic fatalities,
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277 and these aren't just the drivers being killed. But then killing
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278 everybody off would eliminate drug abuse.
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279
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280 May I ask a few questions about religion?
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281 1. which Bible do you read, and why?
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282 2. who decided this version is Truth, and no other is
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283 3. have you read the "one true book" of any other religion?
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284 4. who wrote it?
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285 5. has it remained pure to the original?
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286
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287 If you say "It doesn't matter, God speaks to me through it, why do you
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288 read an English version at all? I have a Hebrew version, and it doesn't
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289 say anything to me at all, nor does the Vulgate.
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290 Yes, Religion is a good subject, it can keep us calling each other dirty
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291 names for ever. Before you start accusing religion of starting wars, may
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292 I ask you to suggest a way to end wars?
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293 /////////////////////////////////////BAD\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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294 Thank you, I think, for the smile, d. Dave
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295 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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296 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 Sep 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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297 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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298 Ah, even in the wee hours of the morn the controversy has begun
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299 to rage! May I offer a cheerful good morning to all my antagonists,
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300 (and I'll have you know that I was stranded at work last night because
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301 of paying no mind to the stealthy hands of the clock)...Whew! Many are
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302 the issues to confront, and I hope that I will be around to witness the
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303 ripple of outrage and surprise spread through the Inn!
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304 Well, DOM, I've finally spoken thoughts outrageous enough to
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305 merit your attention, eh? Your observation about why many seek out
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306 'Christianity'--because they think they can do anything as long as
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307 they go through the ritual of 'prayer' and be forgiven--is a commonly-
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308 held misconception about God's attitude.
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309 "a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-
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310 kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning
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311 error and transgression and sin," yet those 'Christians' you speak of
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312 overlook the second half of Exodus 34:6,7 "but by no means will he
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313 give exemption from punishment."
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314 about who was qualified to judge their fellow in the matter of crime-
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315 not-yet-done; who better than one capable of discerning ALL motives?
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316 The Bible describes the heart as being the "seat of motivation" and
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317 the examiner as: "I, Jehovah, am searching the heart, examining the
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318 kidneys, even to give to each one according to his ways, according to
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319 the fruitage of his dealings." (Jeremiah 17:10)
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320 in his famous Sermon on the Mount (found in Matthew 7:21-23) warned
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321 against those who pose as serving him: "Not everyone saying to me,
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322 'Lord, Lord' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one
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323 doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will
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324 say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
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325 and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in
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326 your name?' And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you!
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327 Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness."
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328
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BAD, God does not 'speak to me', nor am I presuming to interpret
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329 Revelations--or any of the Bible--myself. Matthew 11:25 and the first
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330 letter of the Corinthians 2:10 may be eye-openers regarding where the
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331 understanding of the scriptures comes from. Nonetheless, a prophet is
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332 proved by his prophecy (whether it comes true or not)...
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As for your
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333 questions, any translation is still God's word, and a comparison of
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334 any of the literally-translated Bibles will show the parallel of the
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335 ideas. (The paraphrased ones can be misleading sometimes because of
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336 the inherent bias of the person who interprets according to his own
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337 beliefs, not staying strictly to the original Hebrew & Greek text.)
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338
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The other questions require extensive proof to back my replies, which
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339 I will supply in time, but I'm distracted by your last question, for
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340 it is the most pertinent to the threads of conversation that have been
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341 winding through the Backwater Inn: how can all wars be stopped?
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342
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343 whether economic, territorial, struggle for power, or religious, they
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344 basicly stem from attitudes of self-exhaltation and rivalry. (Thats a
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345 generalization, I know; but identifying the cause of war is essential
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346 to removing it.)
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Some idealistically say, 'why, if everyone just
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347 changed their attitudes, there wouldn't be any more wars!' Sure,
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348 thats an important step, but not everyone WILL change their attitudes;
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349 you realists among the crowd realize that. More is needed; perhaps
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350 a central world government whose authority all recognize and obey?
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351
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352 certainly no government today! Though not pointed out by the
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353 churches, the Bible DOES contain the answer. BAD, you've studied
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354 the Bible quite a bit; have you discovered the Bible's theme?
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355 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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356 One day several of the killer tomatoe street gang went out for a walk.
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357 Cows moo for the big Babo.
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358 I like food and food likes me.
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359
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360 ############################################################################
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361
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362 WHATS ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT: THE BIBLE IS JUST ANOTHER BOOK OF FICTION.
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363 THE PERSON ABOVE QUOTING FROM HIS VERSION JUST PROVES THAT THIER THOUGHTS
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364 ARE CONTROLLED BY A MYTH AND THEY CANNOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT QUOTIN
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365 FROM THE LONGEST RUNNING SOAP/OPERA ON RECORD.
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366
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367 ##################C.Y.M.####################################################
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368 Thank God I am still an Atheist.
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369 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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370 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
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371 Aaron:
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372 Some time ago on PMS, you gave me a quick tutorial on how to use this
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373 system. Perhaps you could do so again on the Backwater. I'm having
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374 a heck of a time getting on, and I think some people just don't know
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375 how to use this system quickly and efficiently. Thanks
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376 Michael
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377 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
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378 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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379 this is all availiable under "HELP", also......
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380
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381 positioning commands..........
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382
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383 LN 24 moves you to the first line after system messages...
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384 BO moves you to LAST LINE ENTERED on system....
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385 UP moves you ONE line UP
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386 DO moves you ONE line DOWN
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387 DA or DB moves you onto the old disk (B) or the current (A)
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388 HERE DISPLAYS current line you are at
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389 note: UP and DO may be generalized to the form of
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390 CO xxx
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391
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392 where CO is eithier "UP" or "DO" and xxx is the number of lines
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393 to go UP or DOWN......xxx,if left out, defaults to 1
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394
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395 LN xxx
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396
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397 will move you to the XXXth line of the system...line 24 is the
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398 first AVAILIABLE line (it is the first line after system messages)
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399 text viewing commands.........
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400
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401 LIST dumps WHOLE disk to you...
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402 PRINT dumps all text AFTER the line YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON
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403 PR xx same as "PRINT", but only dumps xx lines...
|
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404 note that both "control-c" and "BREAK" will stop text output,
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405 and leave you positioned at THE LINE YOU INTERRUPTED AT
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406
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407 while "control-s" will temporarily pause the system output, to
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408 resume listing text, strike any key.....
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409
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410 text entering/editing..........
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411
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412 ENTER places system in "ENTER" mode,ALL text typed will
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413 appear on the system including "OFF" "HELP" "EXIT"
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414 "BYE" or other things we see to offen....to exit
|
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415 enter mode gracefully (leaving no garbage); advance
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416 the system ONE (1) line by hitting "RETURN" key,
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417 and then send a "control-C" (note that in "ENTER"
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418 mode a "control-C" will DELETE your current line,
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419 and return you to "COMMAND" mode....hence the
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420 "RETURN" BEFORE the "control-C")
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421
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422 MA 76 enter this command in "COMMAND" mode ("COMMAND"
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423 mode can be distingushed from "ENTER" mode by
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424 the prompt of ">" at the beginning of a line)
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425 TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH ALL TERMAINAL USERS!!
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426
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427 why 76?? many terminals do not support text beyond
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428 column 80; any text left there is truncated to the
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429 80 th column.......why use "MA 76" and not "MA 80"?
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430 in the "NU Y" mode the system uses columns 1-4 for
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431 LINE NUMBERS...."76" enables users to read text in
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432 this mode,also....
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433
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434 REPLACE system will print line YOU ARE AT; query if you
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435 really wnat to; and the proceed to place you in
|
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436 "ENTER" mode for ONE LINE...line entered will
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437 replace old line.............
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438
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439 CH /old text/new text/
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440
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441 a "character substitution" editor......
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442
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443 example:
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444
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445 you entered:
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446 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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447 How I love thee ;
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448 let me count your fingers,
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449 i can not live without you...
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450
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451
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452 first thing to do is to position youself at the line WITH THE ERROR!
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453 (in this case "let me count your fingers")
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454 sooo.....
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455
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456 >UP 1
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457 let me count your fingers, << system prints the line you are at>>
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458
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459 >ch /your fingers,/the ways../
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460 let me count the ways.. << system prints CORRECTED line >>
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461 >up 2
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462 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << system moves up 2 lines,prints line at >>
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463 >PRI << print rest >>
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464 How I love thee ;
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465 let me count the ways..
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466 i can not live without you...
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467 > << text looks OK, and system prompts for
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468 another command, note that both PRINT
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469 and PR xx leave you AT the last line
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470 printed >>
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471
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472
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473 HINTS/MISC.........
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474
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475 NU Y and NU N
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476
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477 NU Y will cause system to number all lines
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478 PRINTED with their POSITION on the disk (1-629)
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479
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480 NU N will suppress this output....note that
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481 NUmbering does not affect message entry....
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482
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483 if, prior to leaving the system you do this:
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484
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485 >NU Y
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486
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487 >BOTTOM << BO will suffice...>>
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488
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489 206 and I think you guys have slug #$%# in your ears.......
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490
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491 when you get back onto the system type:
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492
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493 >LN 206 << moves you to place you left off (save # from last time!)
|
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494
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495 and I think you guys have slug #$%# in your ears.....
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496
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497 >PRINT << will print REST of text >>
|
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498 blah...
|
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499 dlah...
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500 more blah (unless d has been on)
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501
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502 > << system prompts for new COMMAND >>
|
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503
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504 note: most COMMANDS can be abbreviated to 2 letters..eg.REPLACE
|
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505 becomes RE,PRINT becomes PRI (yes! thats 3! ),BOTTOM = BO,etc....
|
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506 did i forget anything?????
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507 Aaron
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508 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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509 yes, i know i didn't mention crufty things like FA,FI,XT etc..
|
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510 but i didnt think they were "necessary".........
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511 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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512 Well I would still look over my shoulder!!!!!
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513 ****************************************************************************
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514 To: Sysop
|
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515 From: BACH
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516
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517 Thank you for the explanation of the text editing procedures for this
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518 system. I, too, have had some trouble.
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519 Keep up the good work!
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520 ****************************************************************************
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521 "The Babel fish," said the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, "is small,
|
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522 yellow and leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the universe. It feeds
|
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523 on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it.
|
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524 It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to
|
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525 nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic
|
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526 matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals
|
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527 picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The
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528 practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you
|
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529 can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The
|
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530 speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed
|
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531 into your mind by your Babel fish."
|
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532 "Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-
|
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533 bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have
|
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534 chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existance of God.
|
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535 "The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,'
|
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536 says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
|
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537 " 'But,' says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It
|
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538 could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by
|
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539 your own argument, you don't. QED'
|
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540 " 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in
|
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541 a puff of logic.
|
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542 " 'Oh, that as easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black
|
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543 is white and gets himself killed on the next pedestrian crossing.
|
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544 "Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's
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545 kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he
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546 used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That about Wraps
|
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547 It Up for God.
|
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548 "Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to
|
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549 communications between different races and cultures, has caused more and
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550 bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation."
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551 **************************************************** P. V. Jeltz **************
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553 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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555 CYM: It has rarely been my pleasure to meet persons with ideas regarding
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556 religion so closely parelleling my own. Throughout history there have
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557 been authors of ficticious material whose intent is to entertain or to
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558 misinform the public. Added to these are the philosophical writers whose
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559 works are largely, if not wholly, of a speculative nature. Why have Christians
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560 chosen to accept this collection of unsbstantiated works as fact, especially
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561 consid***** pause the system output, to
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563 Wizard of OZ.
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565 d: Aside from a multitude of quotations from your story book, do you have
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566 any other "evidence" that my explanation for Christian disregard for
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567 morality is, in fact, a misconception? During my childhood, I was, for seven
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568 years a reluctant church-goer. Though I have never been a Christian, I am
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569 very familiar with that which Christians profess, that which they practice
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570 and the lack of correspondance between these. If my idea is misconcieved,
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571 how do you account for the discrepancy? Upon presenting this question
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572 to Christians on previous occaissions, the reply was that weakness is the
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573 nature of Man and "sin" (rough translation: moral transgression)
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574 inherant and inevitable in all men (persons); and redemption may be
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575 realized only through repentance. If so, I'm afraid myself and a substantial
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576 number of non-Christians I am familiar with have been excluded from the Human
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577 race. I maintain, therefore, that weakness is the nature of Christians
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578 and that "sin" is inevitable only for those who fear not retribution nor
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582 of Christianity often relate a story of their quite amoral past. Most of
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583 these persons claim (probably truthfully) to have been at one time
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584 theives, rapists, murderers or whatever. This indicates to me that moral
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585 weakness is engraved into their character and that they now find comfort
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586 in their newfound "licence" to remain weak.
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587 As for the belief in a supreme intellegence, this is easily explainable
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588 by analogy. Recall your childhood. While riding in a car at night, did
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589 you not look out the window and believe you saw the stars moving?
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590 Although the visual sensation of motion is actually due to the viewers
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591 motion, it is most often attributed by children to that of the stars themselves.
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592 If you attribute intellegence to god perhaps you are merely viewing the
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593 universe through the eyes of your own "intellegence."
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595 More (much more) Later,
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596 Dirty Ol' Man
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600 LEONARD: Sorry, there is no objective evidence in the medical literature
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601 that Depo-Provera is effective in the application you suggest. The
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602 issue is now being hotly debated in committee down Salem-way. Let us
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603 hope reason, and empiricism, prevail.
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605 ALL: Atheism is never having to say you're Lutheran.
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606
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607 ` Dr. Dick
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608 *************************************************************************
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609 If God created the universe, who created God? Please don't give me that same
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610 old story that he always has been and always will be, since we can use that
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611 same argument about anything else, such as the universe itself. Thus if the
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612 universe has always existed, and always will there is no need for a God to
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613 create it is there? &&&&&&&&&&&&& Watermark &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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614 ***********************************************************************
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615 About the above message in regard to operating the system.
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616 While I would like to indeed claim that I provided it, I must remind
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617 you that it was Aaron who did so, and I think that it was very well
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618 written at that. In fact I will probably be keeping it around for
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619 later reprinting upon need. Thanks Aaron, it was an excelent tutorial.
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620 ******** CISTOP MIKEY ********* 25 SEPT 83 ************************
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