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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
2 ********************* REMOVED: 6 JUL 83 *****************************
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
4 ************************************************************
5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
6 THIS SYSTEM.
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
20 use the replace command to replace the line.
21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
23 ========================================
24
25 *********************************************************
26 I just read an article in The Newscientist which says that
27 I'm a parisite on the female of the sex. Woe is me...
28 Is it not enough that I am continually bandied with the
29 concept of me being nothing more then a figurehead without
30 having to hear my sex being called a parisite as well?
31 To be more specific, it is calling me a Geonomic disease
32 sort of like a virus. It's bad enough being called a disease
33 but to be put in the same catagory as the common cold! That
34 is a low blow!
35 As they put it;
36 Primitive sexuality is a contagious disease. Bacteria
37 normally reproduce asexually, by splitting in two. But when
38 Escherichia coli becomes infected with a segment of
39 parisitic DNA - a plasmoid known as the F factor - the bug
40 begins to mate (Oh great now they are calling me a bug as
41 well - tisk tisk) It grows sex pili and uses them to inject
42 the F factor and bits of its own DNA into other bacteria.
43 Parisitic DNA may have invented sexual reproduction simply
44 in order to spread itself around between lineages.
45 *** A VERY DEPRESSED CISTOP MIKEY *** 8:00PM *** 26 JUN 83 ***
46 Sorry, Mike, we all gotta come from somewhere, but lay off that parasite
47 bit; it still takes 2 to make babies. Of course, one man and a lot of
48 women (or should that be ladies?)....
49 For all you forth freeks: in the latest Creative there is a review of the
50 Jupiter Ace, the first(I do beleive) computer that comes with forth in
51 ROM, so it starts up in forth, not basic. The price is only $150. It is
52 sort of like an improved Sinclair.
53 However, for rather less money you can buy a VIC-20, and the VICFORTH
54 cartridge, get FORTH, more memory, a far better keyboard, color graphics,
55 and when you want to write a program, can unplug forth, and run BASIC.
56 We'll have to wait and see what it actually sells for, the VIC is still
57 being advertised as "less than $299", but last I saw it was nearer $85.
58 When will we have a small Pascal in ROM?
59
60 Oh, by the way Mike, why did you switch discs so soon, there is still
61 good room on DB?
62 //////////////////////////////////B.A.D.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
63 DISK DRIVES .....LOW COST...
64 DOUBLE HEADED 40 TRACK $299.95
65 15 MEGABYTE INTERNAL WINCHESTERS LESS THAN $1250.00....
66 40 TRACK MPI FLIPPY JUST $ 249.95
67 BOB MCKNIGHT 777-xxxx
68 TRS SPECIALIST REPAIRS AND MODS.LOWER CASE MOD I $40
69 COCO LOWER CASE $100.00, 64K $85 TRS-80 EXPANSION INTERFACE $350LIKE NEW 48K
70 BOB MCKNIGHT 777-xxxx IBM CLONE THE CORONA IS A FANTASTIC MACHINE...CALL
71
72 OFF
73 SAVE
74 OFF
75 ..............................................
76 TRON: What was that bit about CHR$(8) & CHR$(9)? I intercept
77 the KEYBOARD driver at the RAM vector, thus things get changed
78 BEFORE the video driver can mess them up! When would be a good
79 time to call you and exchange programs? (I'm leaving msg here
80 because CBBS is not responding to me. I get carrier and then
81 nothing......)
82 _________________________Leonard___________________________
83 p.s. the U of O has a LISP for the TRS-80!
84 ___________________________________________________________
85 \|/
86 -|-
87 / \
88 *
89 +++
90 ++
91 ++
92 ++
93 *** ***
94 ***** *****
95 **************
96 *************
97 ************
98 ************
99 *************
100 **************
101 ************
102 **********
103 *******
104 KKKKKKKBBBBBAAAAANNNNNGGGGG!!!!!!!
105 Happy fourth of July from Shibumi...
106 =======================================
107 To the person who wanted the BBS numbers on the the other
108 disk....the # to call to find a very complete BBS listing
109 is (206) 693-xxxx. That is the vancouver BBS and he has
110 a very good listing of all the BBS's around the Oregon
111 and Washington area. (and beyond) Anyway..if you have
112 not called there before, when the system asks you for a
113 users ID type "NEWUSER" and for a password type "FIRSTIME".
114 (without quotes) When you get to a system ready prompt type
115 "BBLIST" and thats all there is to it.
116 Be patient. His system operates a little slower than the
117 others but he has a very complete setup and is worth
118 checking out. Bye.
119 =======================================
120 UP 25
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122 To: Leonard From: Tron Re: Video and keyboard
123
124 Yes, that's what I meant. I meant to say that the keyboard
125 driver routine is intercepted at the KEYBOARD DCB, and same is
126 true with the Video. Okay, now the sticky stuff. Where does he
127 want it located? Below BASIC storage area? Protected in high
128 memory? Where? Also, what does he want, say character codes 9
129 and 127 to do? Does he want special characters to do special
130 things like 7 will produce a bell out the cassette port? Tell
131 me EXACTLY what he wants and I'll write it just for him. You
132 don't need to tell me EVERY code and what it does, but simply
133 what ones are different from the ones ordinarrily displayed by
134 the TRS-80.
135
136 Tron
137 ----------
138 Mikey:
139 Who cares what that magazine says? Apparently that guy has a
140 lot of nerve publishing that thing!
141 ----------
142 TO: Berney Fm: CISTOP Mikey
143 The real reason I changed the disk was that I was getting
144 Intensively bored with the goings on of late and was hopeing to
145 inject some new blood with a fresh disk. This was also my reason
146 for implanting the above article refferance in the hopes that I
147 would get a response of some sort out of it. I must say that
148 I am surprized at the ho-hum response so far. As strongly as it
149 was worded I had expected to get a much stronger reaction.
150 Hmmm, Maybe it was too strong? I do have to say that the extrapolations
151 of the ideas were mine, I was simply taking things to their logical
152 conclusion based on the presented thought pattern. The last
153 paragraph however is almost verbatim from the article with the
154 exception of my comment in (). P.S. don't take my comments or
155 ramblings too seriously, I generally inject them just to see what
156 kind of response I'll get!
157 *** CISTOP MIKEY (NOW THE TRUTH IS KNOWN!) *** 27 JUN 83 *** 2:21PM ***
158 ----------
159 Does anyone know of a straight line-draw routine for the TRS-80
160 model I computer? I'd like it so it would hold the first x,y
161 coordinate in DE and the second x,y coordinate in HL. You call
162 a routine and it would draw the line. Could anyone do this or
163 does anyone know of a routine that will? PLEASE respond. I need
164 this routine bad........
165
166
167 Tron
168 Any help would be appreciated.
169 ----------
170 TO TRON****
171 IN MY VAST LIBRARY OF "PIRATED" I MEAN DONATED..PROGRAMS I HAVE A COUPLE THAT
172 DRAW LINE SKETCHES. i'M NOT INTO ASSEMBLY SO i DON'T KNOW HOE THEY WORK.
173 ASSEMBLY LESSONS WANTED..CALL BOB MCKNIGHT ....
174
175 MODEL 1 EXPANSION INTERFACE R/S
176 WITH 32K JUST $350
177 MODEL 1 L AND W EXPANSION INTERFACE ...COMPLETE BOARD $250 BOB MCKNIGHT
178
179 WELL MICKEY, YOU TRIED, BUT IT SEEMS YOU PICKED A BAD DAY TO START A NEW SESSION
180 SEEMS CBBS IS HAVING PROBLEMS TODAY SO ALL THE NON ALIASES ARE CALLING HERE TODA
181 GUESS THAT HOW IT IS SOME TIMES.
182 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
183 To Pann, Fm Adam Trent,
184 Hi, Thanks for mentioning the meeting. Last time I tried to go to
185 the meeting (at the Aloha Computer&Things) the building was vacant.
186 Did they move or go out of business?? I'll try to make the one at Tek.
187 I like STOIC over FORTH because, as a high-level language, it offers
188 a more symetric model for handling strings and string literals. It
189 has a compile buffer which allows for more flexibility in "immediate"
190 testing of routines. Haven't used CODE word defining in STOIC (ie, I
191 haven't dropped into the STOIC assembler). It has one though. Speed
192 is definitely comparable to FIG-FORTH if you assemble STOIC with-out
193 stack boundary checking (I like stack boundary checking, tho).
194 STOIC is 75% 8080 ASM and 25% in itself. FORTH is usually 75% in
195 itself and 25% in ASM. This generally leads to pretty good
196 performance for STOIC as compared to FORTH. The STOIC vocabulary
197 stack is a more rational mechanism than the static vocabulary
198 tree of FORTH. The FORTH disk access model is more primitive and
199 thus more flexible than the CP/M file access provided with stock
200 STOIC. HOWEVER, line numbers (ala BASIC) and screen numbers
201 (ala FORTH) are absolute references and are DUMB in my opinion.
202 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$27jun83 - 1835 - Adam Trent$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
203 Ok, someone believes that men are a disease of women. Well, as
204 a member of the contagious army, I have a proposition:
205 Any women out there who want to get infected?
206 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
207 Caution:the working Heath EBH BASIC version died in a system crash; this
208 is an earlier version partly converted to Microsoft:::1 CLEAR 1000 ' THIS REPLACES DIM(I$(800)
209 2 DIM S(40),R(20),L(10),L0(10):3 DIM B$(80) 'This should be part of "clear"??:4 PRINT "BASIC-FORTH V 3":5 ?"by C.H.Ting
210 6 ?"Dr. Dobb's Journal #60,Oct 81;vol 6,iss10, pp12:20 rem N is SP,M is RP,K is IP,L is W:24 ON ERROR GOTO 29:28 GOTO 30
211 29 PRINT A$;" ?"; "ERROR ";ERR; "IN ";ERL:30 M=0:32 N=0:50 REM *** TEXT INTERPRETER ***:60 K=1:62 INPUT I$:64 L1=0
212 70 L(K)=L1:72 L0(K)=LEN(I$):74 L1=L0(K):100 IF N<0 THEN 106:101 IF XZ THEN PRINT 101:104 GOTO 110:106 PRINT "STACK EMPTY"
213 108 GOTO 30:110 L(K)=L(K)+1:112 IF L(K)>L0(K) THEN 132:114 B$=MID$(I$,L(K),1)'text was B$=MID$(L(K),L(K))
214 116 IF B$=" " THEN 110:118 A$=B$:120 L(K)=L(K)+1:121 IF L(K)>L0(K) THEN 130:122 B$=MID$(I$,L(K),1)'SEE 114
215 124 IF B$=" " THEN 130:126 A$=A$+B$'text was A$=A$,B$:128 GOTO 120:130 GOTO 200:132 IF K<2 THEN 60:134 K=K-1
216 135 I$=LEFT$(I$,L0(K))'text used I$(1,L0(K)):136 L1=L0(K):138 GOTO 110:200 '# DICTIONARY #
217 210 ' 300 TO 900 = HIGH LEVEL DEFINITOINS:300 IF A$<>"SQUARE" THEN 310:302 B$="DUP *":304 I$=I$+B$'see 135:306 K=K+1
218 308 GOTO 70:310 IF A$<>"CUBE" THEN 320:312 B$="DUP SQUARE *":314 I$=I$+B$'see 135:316 K=K+1:318 GOTO 70
219 320 IF A$<>"TEST" THEN 330:322 B$="DO PI 10 / R@ * sin . loop" 'good luck with "@" and MBASIC
220 324 I$=I$+B$ 'you may want to use something:326 K=K+1 'else:328 GOTO 70:900 '* LOW LEVEL DEFINITIONS - NUCLEUS *
221 902 IF A$<>"+" THEN 910:904 N=N-1:906 S(N)=S(N)+S(N+1):908 goto 100:910 IF A$<>"-" THEN 920:912 N=N-1
222 914 S(N)=S(N)-S(N+1):916 GOTO 100:920 IF A$<>"*" THEN 930:922 N=N-1:924 S(N)=S(N)*S(N+1):926 GOTO 100
223 930 IF A$<>"/" THEN 940:932 N=N-1:934 S(N)=S(N)/S(N+1):936 GOTO 100:940 IF A$<>"ABS" THEN 950:942 S(N)=ABS(S(N))
224 944 GOTO 100:950 IF A$<>"ATN" THEN 960:952 S(N)=ATN(S(N)):954 GOTO 100:960 IF A$<>"COS" THEN 970:962 S(N)=COS(S(N))
225 964 GOTO 100:970 IF A$<>"EXP" THEN 980:972 S(N)=EXP(S(N)):974 GOTO 100:980 IF A$<>"INT" THEN 990:982 S(N)=INT(S(N))
226 984 GOTO 100:990 IF A$<>"LOG" THEN 1000:992 S(N)=LOG(S(N)):994 GOTO 100:1000 IF A$<>"RND" THEN 1010
227 1002 S(N)=RND(1)'text was S(N)=RND(-N):1004 GOTO 100:1010 IF A$<>"SGN" THEN 1020:1012 S(N)=SGN(S(N)) '? DEF OF SGN ??
228 1014 GOTO 100:1020 IF A$<>"SIN" THEN 1030:1022 S(N)=SIN(S(N)):1024 GOTO 100:1030 IF A$<>"SQR" THEN 1040
229 1032 S(N)=SQR(S(N)):1034 GOTO 100:1040 IF A$<>"TAN" THEN 1050:1042 S(N)=TAN(S(N)):1044 GOTO 100:1050 IF A$<>"^" THEN 1060
230 1052 N=N-1:1054 S(N)=S(N)^S(N+1)'S(N) to power of S(N+1):1056 GOTO 100:1060 IF A$<>"S?" THEN 1070:1062 FOR I=1 TO N
231 1064 PRINT S(N-I+1):1066 NEXT I:1068 GOTO 100:1070 IF A$<>"." THEN 1080:1071 IF N<1 THEN 106:1072 PRINT S(N):1074 N=N-1
232 1076 GOTO 100:1080 IF A$<>"DUP" THEN 1090:1082 N=N+1:1084 S(N)=S(N-1):1086 GOTO 100:1090 IF A$<>"DROP" THEN 1100
233 1092 N=N-1:1094 GOTO 100:1100 IF A$<>"SWAP" THEN 1110:1102 SWAP S(N),S(N-1):1108 GOTO 100:1110 IF A$<>"OVER" THEN 1120
234 1112 N=N+1:1114 S(N)=S(N-2):1116 GOTO 100:1120 IF A$<>">R" THEN 1130:1122 M=M+1:1124 R(M)=S(N):1126 N=N-1:1128 GOTO 100
235 1130 IF A$<>"R>" THEN 1140:1132 N=N+1:1134 S(N)=R(M):1136 M=M-1:1138 GOTO 100:1140 IF A$<>"R@" THEN 1200'see 322
236 1142 N=N+1:1144 S(N)=R(M):1146 GOTO 100:1200 '* CONTROL STRUCTURES *:1202 IF A$<>"=" THEN 1210:1203 N=N-1
237 1204 IF S(N)=S(N+1) THEN 1207:1205 S(N)=0:1206 GOTO 100:1207 S(N)=1:1209 GOTO 100:1210 IF A$<>">" THEN 1220:1212 N=N-1
238 1214 IF S(N)>S(N+1) THEN 1217:1215 S(N)=0:1216 GOTO 100:1217 S(N)=1:1218 GOTO 100:1220 IF A$<>"<" THEN 1230:1222 N=N-1
239 1223 IF S(N)<S(N+1) THEN 1227:1224 S(N)=0:1225 GOTO 100:1227 S(N)=1:1228 GOTO 100:1230 IF A$<>"IF" THEN 1250:1231 N=N-1
240 1232 IF S(N+1)=0 THEN 100'DEF OF "IF"<>0 IS TRUE?;text was IF S(N+1)THEN 100:1233 FOR I=L(K) TO L0(K) -3
241 1234 B$=MID$(I$,I,4) 'text was B$=I$(I,I+3):1235 IF B$="ELSE" THEN 1240:1236 IF B$="THEN" THEN 1240:1237 NEXT I
242 1238 PRINT "IF?":1239 GOTO 30:1240 L(K)=I+4:1241 GOTO 100:1242 GOTO 100:1250 IF A$<>"ELSE" THEN 1260:1252 GOTO 1233
243 1260 IF A$<>"THEN" THEN 1270:1262 GOTO 100:1270 IF A$<>"BEGIN" THEN 1280:1272 M=M+1:1274 R(M)=L(K):1276 GOTO 100
244 1280 IF A$<>"UNTIL" THEN 1300:1282 N=N-1:1283 IF S(N+1) = 0 THEN 1288'added "=0":1284 IF S(N+1)= 0 THEN 100 ' " "
245 1286 L(K)=R(M):1287 GOTO 100:1288 M=M-1:1289 GOTO 100:1300 IF A$<>"DO" THEN 1320:1302 M=M+1:1304 R(M)=L(K):1305 M=M+1
246 1306 R(M)=S(N-1):1308 M=M+1:1309 R(M)=S(N):1310 N=N-2:1312 GOTO 100:1320 IF A$<>"LOOP" THEN 1340:1322 R(M)=R(M)+1
247 1324 IF R(M-1)>R(M) THEN 1330:1326 M=M-3:1328 GOTO 100:1330 L(K)=R(M-2):1332 GOTO 100:1340 '* CONSTANTS *
248 1500 IF A$<>"PI" THEN 1510:1502 N=N+1:1504 S(N)=3.14159:1506 GOTO 100:1510 IF A$<>"0" THEN 1520:1512 N=N+1:1514 S(N)=0
249 1516 GOTO 100:1520 IF A$<>"STOP" THEN 1600:1522 STOP:1600 '* NUMBER *:1604 N=N+1:1606 S(N)=VAL(A$):1608 GOTO 100
250 ::::2000'the end
251
252 to use the above. you must convert all colons : to your newline function, usually
253 a carriage return, line feed or both.
254 it is about 100-120 characters per line, to fit on here; the 50 or so
255 lines becomes about 250 when expanded:: it won't work unless expanded.
256 I don't promise anything; the @ especially is death to Microsoft, at
257 least in my version,& becomes a newline without ending a logical line.
258 It simply disappears. Heath basic works OK.
259 have fun fun fun fun nuf nuf nuf nuf nuf (FORTH IS BACKWARDS)
260 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
261 Oh, by the wqay Mike, when it seems you are serious, we'll all just
262 move to CBBS, the Bit Bucket, or PMS,,or??
263 ...........................................B.A.D.....I still prefer C....
264 PS IT STARTS AT LINE 1; THE HEADER GOT MIXED IN DURING THE CONDENSING.
265 ...................................................
266 .....................................................
267 ZZZZZZ SNORE
268 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28 Jun 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
269 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:49 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
270 Picture a figure with desolate stance, a wisp of a girl with face
271 upturned, who waits before a towering door of wood rough-hewn...her eyes
272 troubled & dark, she reaches for the forbidding knocker, but her hands
273 tremble as she does so, hesitant to touch the cold metal. She draws back
274 her hand, and instead rearranges her cloak to wrap her closer against the
275 unfriendly wind, listening all the while to the raucous laughter, probing
276 for a familiar voice in the crowd behind the door...
277 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
278 Welcome back, Dragon Lady (or may I call you Drag, for short). Sorry
279 you couldn't join my party. I'm sorry that my prose is rusty and
280 unimaginative, but as Mr. T said when asked if he'd do Shakespeare,
281 "I don't talk in that kind of broken english."
282 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: jb :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
283 Mike, do you have any 600:600 ohm phone line matching transformers just
284 sitting around gathering dust that I could beg, borrow, steal, or even pay a
285 little money for??????
286 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: jb ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
287 ***************************************************************
288 So I return! I apologize for making fun of Tron. He's one of
289 my friends out here in Corbett and I just liked to get him back
290 for a few things he did to me. I reamlly am sorry for making him
291 sound dumb. He really isn't if you really get to talking. Well,
292 I'd better get out of here.......
293 *********************** Darth Vader ***************************
294 **************
295
296 THIS IS YOUR EMPEROR!
297
298 YOU WILL ALL SURRENDER TO THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE AT ONCE,
299 OR YOU SHALL SUFFER A FATE WORSE THAN ANYTHING YOU HAVE EVER
300 SEEN BEFORE.
301
302
303 ----------------------------------------
304 TO: "TRON"
305
306 TEE DAWSON HAS INFORMED ME THAT YOU
307 PROGRAM IN MACHINE LANGUAGE AND ARE
308 VERY GOOD WITH MOST COMPUTERS.
309 I PROGRAM IN MACHINE CODE FOR
310 THE 6502 (1 1/2 YEARS), AND A LITTLE
311 ON THE Z-80, AS WELL AS PROGRAMMING IN
312 SEVERAL OTHER LANGUAGES.
313 TEE SUGGESTED THAT I GET IN TOUCH
314 WITH YOU. I AM INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU
315 CAN DO AND MABEY WE COULD EXCHANGE SOME
316 TECHNICAL INFORMATION.
317 I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD
318 LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR ERIK ROGERS EITHER
319 HERE OR ON THE BIT BUCKET.
320 THANKS.
321 ----------------------------------------
322 TO: JB FM: MIKE RE:TRANSFORMERS
323 SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTLY, SUGGEST YOU GO DOWN TO
324 RADAR ELECTRIC, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING MINE.
325 AS I REMEMBER, THEY ONLY CARRYED THE CENTER TAPPED VERSION
326 IN STOCK, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM, JUST DON'T HOOK ANYTHING
327 TO THE CENTER TAP.
328 *****************************************************
329 GEE, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE GOOD STUFF THAT USED
330 TO BE ON HERE AND IS A TRADITION OF THE BACKWATER BBS?
331 ======================================
332 Greetings, O Lady of Dragons! Come and be seated. Wouldst thou
333 care for some of the innkeeper's mead? No matter, if thou wish
334 anything I'm sure that thou shalt find it.
335 Now that thou art comfortable, pray tell us what thou
336 wouldst discuss. May I be so bold as to request some aid in the
337 proper conjugation of certain verbs? (I am QUITE aware that
338 "thou wish" is incorrect, but I must needs confess my ignorance
339 of the proper form.)
340
341 Welcome and well-met,
342 _____________________________the apprentice_____________________
343 --------------
344
345 THIS IS EMPEROR PALLPATINE.
346
347 NONE OF YOU HAS SURRENDERED TO THE DARK SIDE. NOW FOR YOU LACK
348 YOU WILL DIE!!!!!
349
350
351
352 THERE YOUR EARS SHOULD BE WELL FRIED BY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
353 ----------
354 HOW DOES ONE GET CP/M TO COME UP ON THIS THING????
355
356
357 ---------
358 Emporer,
359 You can't make me do anything! I am not going to surrender to
360 the dark side of the Force because the dark side sucks! Fortunatley
361 for me, my terminal doesn't have a built in bell. So, face on
362 you buddy!
363
364 Tron
365 P.S. Never mess with Tron...........
366 ---------
367 ************************************j***************************************
368 This is an attempt to test a modem 1 on a TRS-80 Model 4
369 *************************************************************************.**
370 WELL, IS SURE SEEMS TO WORK.
371
372 ---------------------
373 HEY EMPORER,
374 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT
375 FEELS TO HAVE THE ELECTRON SPRAY IN
376 YOUR CRT PAINT YOUR FACE?
378
379 BIT BYTER
380 ----------------------
381 If you do a "CC N" when you sign on, you will avoid the bell anyway!!
382 __________Max Grody____________________________________________
383 Hey, little lizard, is your tongue sharp enough to do battle with
384 _________Max Grody____?????????????????????????????????????????
385 Apprentice, if you try "thou wilst", you are in the ballpark, I seem to
386 remember that was common a few years back, somewhere, somewhen,
387 or thereabouts.
388 In the new Newsweek there is an article on supercomputers, and the "race
389 with Japan, Inc. to produce one. It seems there is some fear that the
390 about $1 billion planned to be spent in the US isn't enough to offset
391 the $200 million that Japan is about to spend. They took over the
392 pocket calculator market, the elecrtonic watch market, and now
393 supercomputers? They haven't even made a dent in the microcomputer market
394 yet. (Except for printers) And this is because they haven't been able to
395 get into the software. Yet. We won't say anything about the fact that
396 the US firms that are trying to beat out Japan are afraid of being sued
397 for doing the very thing that Japan is doing. (Neither IBM nor AT&T
398 would join, because of the legal problems.) Right we (US) own the market,
399 all 76 machines of it. I believe the person who wrote the article was
400 severely overstating the importance of this huge market; the very fact
401 that IBM is not counted among the makers of supercomputers says a little
402 about their view of the value of such, or the market possibilites of the
403 things. (To a company that sells about half the big computers in the world,
404 and about 1/5 the small ones, (( a million or so)) the possibility of
405 selling another dozen isn't worth the cost.) Will a few billion bucks
406 really be enough? After all, most of the present super c's are made by
407 Cray, and designed by one person (Cray himself), who also laid the basis
408 for much of the competion's (CDC's).
409 The interesting thing is the comments on what is "just around the corner"
410 in the field of artificial intelligence: computers who talk, and can be
411 talked to, or ones that seem truly "intelligent" (ie, in an open discussion,
412 can seem aware of what is happening, and react or answer in a sensible
413 manner). Why is this so especially noteworthy? Because I have a book
414 written in the mid 1950's ( 30 years ago) that said that the same things
415 were JUST AROUND THE CORNER! Machine translation from one language to
416 another seemed closer then than it does today, because it has been tried,
417 and fell on it's butt. Truly, we are a lot closer to artificial
418 intelligence today (by about 30 years) but God alone knows how long more
419 we must wait. My guess is that when such a machine is built, we won't know
420 it, because it will take abut 20 years to program it. In other words,
421 about as long as it takes to program it's competion, the human brain.
422 If something that operates about a million times slower is a more powerful
423 computer, just maybe they are looking in the wrong direction?? How
424 about parallel processing? Use 10 million neurons to replace one IC,
425 try holographic encodeing in 100 million for a memory, with majority
426 logic for error correction, feed it sugar and ATP, in water, call it
427 a brain, house it in a self replicating, self repairing, self programming
428 body, and call it a person. It isn't obsolete yet.
429 //////////////////////////////////B.A.D.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
430 -----
431 Once the program for the "intelligent" computer was finished, however, you
432 could have it build more "intelligent" computers or just copy its program
433 to another computer.
434 -----
435 So, you say, the supercomputer can outdo its human rival: real, live cloning
436 ! Or will that take 9 months, too. 'Course, it now takes a human babe
437 'bout 20 years to gain a bit of judgment, right?
438 *&**&*&**&*&**&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&**&*&*&***&*&**&*&*&**&***&***&
439 Apprentice: Learn these things: Honor thy teachers, but be ye wary lest ye
440 grasp the wrong lessons. 'Tis ill-formed to speak with the contractive
441 tongue; 'tis worse to pen it. Refrain ye from words like "conjugate", lest
442 ye raise yon hairy crop upon the backs of your fingers. Ol' Master
443 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
444 The problem with computer translation of languages isn't the
445 computer's fault. If you want proof, consider the following:
446 Ask someone what "yeah" means. They will probably say something
447 like "it means yes, or indicates agreement". To this you respond
448 "Oh yeah?"
449 Try running that thru a computer! My point is that the REAL
450 problem is that while you can tell a computer how to do ANYTHING
451 we usually get upset when it does what it was told to. We really
452 DON'T know what the rules for various human languages are and
453 we certainly have no idea what "intelligence" IS. When we figure
454 out what it is, we will probably find that we COULD have done it
455 with present day machines.
456 __________________________Leonard_______________________________
457 To: Bob McKnight From: Tron Re: Assembly lessons
458
459
460 Bob, I called you a few days ago concerning assembly language.
461 I think I may have contacted your son or a kid in the house but
462 I'll teach you assembly language if you are willing to learn.
463 Give me a call at 695-xxxx Mondays through Mondays from 10:00am
464 to 8:30pm.
465
466 Tron
467 _____________
468 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
469
470 THIS IS THE EMPEROR....YOU ARE ALL MY SLAVES......PUT DOWN YOUR
471 LIGHTSABERS AND COME TO ME ON YOUR KNEES.....GIVE UP YOUR APPLES
472 AND TURN THEM IN FOR IBM'S...IF YOU DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'LL
473 GET........SOME OF THIS....
474
475 GOT IT....GOOD....EVERYTHING HAS GONE ACCORDING TO MY PLANS...
476
477 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
478 TO:CISYOP MIKEY FM:THE EMPEROR
479 SJ:CP/M
480
481 MIKEY,
482 HOW DOES I GET CP/M TO COME UP...YOU CHANGE THE PASSWORD???
483
484 P.S. DON'T FOOL WITH ME..!!
485 TO:ANYONE INTERESTED. FROM:THE BRUISER
486 THERE IS A BBS IN CAL. THAT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF!!! CALL 408-253-xxxx
487 I HAVE AN ATARI 800. BUT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS AND GAMES YOU CAN
488
489 GET.
490
491 BY THE WAY, DO YOU THINK THAT DARTH VADER GOODSIDE COMING OUT IN THE RETURN
492 OF THE JEDI COINCIDES WITH THE REBIRTH OF PORTLAND'S MEANEST,FOULEST,DIRTIEST
493 WRESTLER, I.E. PLAYBOY BUDDY ROSE.(YEAH, WE WANT BUDDY). MAYBE THERES HOPE
494 FOR REAGAN.(HEY,HEY,HES NO GOOD. SEND HIM BACK TO HOLLYWOOD.)
495 ==========
496 Someone above said that it takes 20 years for someone to develop
497 judgement. Well, in the case of some who use this system, I suspect it
498 will take a lot longer.
499 ==========
500 From the looks of things, it may be never for most of the inhabitants.
501 Also, the existence of intelligence is more probable in computers
502 than among the present generation!!!!!!
503 _________Max Grody_________________________________________________
504 DOES ANYWON WITH A BERANE USE THIS SISTEM???? IF SOO, DROP ME
505 ----------------------------------------------------------------
506 CPM NO LONGER EXISTS ON THIS SYSTEM... SORRY
507 ******* CISTOP MIKEY ****** 30 JUN 83 *************************
508 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
509 THERE MAY YET BE SOME INTELLIGENT LIFE
510 FORMS DRIFTING AMONG US, BUT THEY
511 REMAIN TO BE FOUND!
512
513 <<BIT BYTER>>
514 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
515
516 NEW SHIPMENT OF DISK DRIVES JUST ARRIVED BOB MCKNIGHT 777-2555
517 JUST WANTED TO SEE IF A NEW MODEM WORKS. NOW I WONDER IF
518 I CAN READ THIS BACK?
519 ============================
520 YEP. THE MURA 100 WORKS FINE.
521 =============GRIZ=============
522 Tron, I got back from work at about 11 pm and it was too
523 late to call ya. I'll try to call tomorrow from work, but I'll
524 probably be back around the same time so I won't call from home.
525 Got a bunch of new games from Steve... there is a set of term-
526 inating resistors in my interface that make the computer think
527 the joystick is pushed every way at once (they pull the data
528 lines to ground) so I've had to go through most of the games
529 and zap the joystick routines. It's easy though; just search
530 the disk file for a DB 00 (IN A,(0)) and change it to a
531 3E FF (LD A,0FFH). Once you get started it's almost automatic.
532 Hey, I should build a DO file to do all the busywork for me...
533 Anyway, call ya later.
534 --------------------------------ag-------------------------
535 **************************************************************.*
536
537 TO: ADAM TRENT FM: MIKE DAY RE: AMODEM
538
539 I have found a bug which may have been giving you problems,
540 in the routine that waits for the SOH from the sender,
541 change the following:
542
543 RCVSOHE PUSH B
544 MVI B,1
545 CALL RECV
546 POP B
547 JNC RCVSOHE
548
549 LDA RSENDBF
550 CALL SEND
551
552 To look like this:
553
554 RCVSOHE LDA RSENDBF
555 CALL SEND
556
557 This eliminates the garbage collection at this point which
558 was gobbling up the SOH so that the receiver never saw it.
559 It has a side benifit of boosting local high speed transfers
560 by at least 4 to 1! The disavantage is that if the sender
561 times out and resends the sector again you will get a buch
562 of garbage but it seems to recover nicely anyway.
563 The above routine occurs in the AMODEMR.ASM file.
564
565 **************************************************************
566 Andy,
567 When are you going to be free one of these days? Maybe we can
568 swap some games over the modem. Whaddya think? Talk to ya later.
569
570 Tron
571 ----------
572 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
573 Who will take this challenge? Please don't divulge the answers.....
574 " My darlin' Lil,
575 You just got to get me out of this jail tonight. Bring my horse and
576 tie his reins to the back window; have him pull them bars right off.
577 But don't make a sound 'til then.
578 Trouble is, I don't know which cell I'm in! But here's what I do know
579 about the layout of the jail:
580 There's six cells back here, all in a row, and each one has a high window
581 facin' the back alley. I'm in a cell next to a feller name of Buck. He's
582 on my right as I stand facin' the door of my cell. Don't know if there's
583 anybody in the cell on my other side--that cell's either empty or the
584 feller in there's real quiet-like.
585 Buck's a regular here. He's been fussin' on account of he didn't get his
586 usual corner cell, which is empty right now. He says there's two other
587 fellers in here with us: Jake and Bart.
588 I hear tell this Jake is a real famous desperado. They got him off by
589 himself--nobody next to him. Haven't heard a peep from him the whole time.
590 That other feller, Bart, is a real noisy one, always singin' cowboy
591 songs.
592 They just come to take Jake off to Abilene to stand trial. I leaned my
593 head against the bars and looked down the hall to my right, and caught a
594 glimpse of him. Real mean-lookin'.
595 Please come and get me tonight. Love, Dan"
596 ????? Which of the windows is Dan's? ???????
597 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DAVE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
598 None of them, he doesn't own the jail.
599 :::::::::::::::::::
600 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
601 GIVE IT TO 'EM' BRUISER. LET EM KNOW WHO AND WHAT
602 IS REAL CLEAN FUN.......
603 +}+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
604 DAN IS IN THE 4TH CELL FROM THE LEFT, AS YOU FACE THE WINDOWS
605 FROM THE OUTSIDE.
606 ======================GRIZ======================-===========
607 try the 2nd cell from the left as you face the windows from the outside
608 _________Grey ghost_____________________________________
609 HELP
610
611
612 
613 2
614 8
615 HELP
616 Dan is in the left corner cell as you face the windows. He didn't
617 realize that there is no cell on his left.
618 ########################### Buck Rogers, 21st Century Kid ############
619 Anyone for nasty comments? This is the typical
620 'puzzle freaks delight', but is unfortunately full of holes: there are
621 several possible answers, as not enough data is given, but a lot is
622 assumed. The cells are in a line, but is the line straight? not said.
623 Did you ASSUME that the corner cell that Buck isn't in means he isn't
624 in a corner cell? There may be 2 corners. Or more cells around the corner.
625 But let's not quibble, the story line won't cut anyway, no horse can
626 pull out jail bars with his reins.
627 .... well, got back on. Did Ma Bell pull a sneaky?
628 How many other answers are coming in? I think there are several.
629 One line left?? how can we answer in one line??????bad, very B.A.D.....