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From: JONBOY
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: What does it?
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:50:51
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Message Number 12701
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T> what are all the rest?
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Patent Applied For - except we all know that the US patent office
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refuses to patent ANY perpetual motion machine - so I hereby donate my
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Perpetual Maytag Motion Machine concept to the public domain. You rig
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it exactly the same as the communicators with the added benefit that
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you can still use them for that purpose - and you start one up. When
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the string gets wrapped so tight that it causes it to stop the unwinding
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action will start the other one. Since we know all about the superior
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operating lifetime for these units we have in essence a perpetual motion
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machine.
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An Inventive JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Helicopters
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:55:26
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Message Number 12702
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T> most people assume any affectionate physical contact between
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T> a man and a woman is inherently sexual in nature.
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Righto! You wouldn't bel;ieve how many married women that I'm supposed
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to be having affairs with at work. My buddy Kim happens to be a very
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good-looking young blonde. We happen to like each other a lot and go
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out together for lunches, dinner, bowling, movies etc etc WITH the
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blessings of her husband Jeff. We give each other hugs a lot because
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we genuinely care a lot about each other.
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As you can imagine tho... everyone else tries to drag a beautiful
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personal relationship into the mud. Good thing we don't care.
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JonBoy
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From: SAAVIK
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 23:08:14
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Message Number 12703
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JB>Hug anyone that is dear to me and f*ck anyone that feels it isn't
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manyly.
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Amen, JB. Nothing makes ya feel better than a hug. When I meet someone
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that touches my arm when talking to me and doesn't hesitate to hug
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goodbye or hello, it makes me feel warm. So many people misinterpret it,
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though. I tend to call people "Darlin'", it's gotten me in trouble more
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than once.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Workshops
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 23:14:22
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Message Number 12704
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After reading about the "gay bob" doll, I'm sure he's laughing to hard
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to find his bayonet.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: What doesn't it
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 23:15:52
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Message Number 12705
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Ah, but what word described the guy that's in love with himself.....
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Besides a "jerk", that is?
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From: SAAVIK
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Bill Bixie Cat
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 23:20:24
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Message Number 12707
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I like it! I like it! You should add to every post..... that would drive
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c] with BUSH) yet you will talk all day
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>about your rights. Well, someone hadda die to get those rights
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>secured for you.
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Several questions for you:
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1. What does fighting for a monarchic government that has NO equiv-
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alent to our Bill of Rights (theirs was cancelled in 1985, I
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believe...) have to do with saving our rights? I've never seen a
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connection.
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2. When did I (as a person) agree to those rules? I never agreed to
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fight for the U.S, so far as I know.
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I've lived in another country, and I've spent time in many other
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countries. Not one of them has the religion of "rallying around the
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flag" that the U.S. seems to. Several may rally around a charismatic
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leader. Many are drawn into patriotism through their religion. But
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none have made the State into a religion.
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/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Freakish fears
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 10:13:21
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Message Number 12409
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>The film procedes with animated hamburgers.
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Were they sentient hamburgers?
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/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Give it a Rest
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 10:18:28
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Message Number 12410
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>Gawd! Enough of this serious stuff, already!!!
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It pops up here more than occasionally.
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I'd say it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to tell what a person's sexual pref-
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erences are from how they act. Psyche has a rather high-pitched voice
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for a male, yet he's completely hetero. There's a whole bunch of
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Spaniards who lisp (speaking Castilian), but most are hetero.
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There's a California furry who has two (I believe) black belts, and
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is bisexual. Another of my friends was a power-lifter (used to work
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moving whole kegs of beer) and was bi. You simply can't tell.
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/Dragonfly/
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Fav shows
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:06:42
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Message Number 12411
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Me neither (either, ah, back to grammar school!!). I found something in
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all of them that interested me. But there are some I can watch again and
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again, and then there's some I've had enough of. I think it's kind of
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strange that they (meaning the syndication) seem to show the same ones
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over and over. For instance, they might air one episode 3 times and
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never air another episode. Maybe that wasn't the way to put it (tongue
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tied today). What I mean to say is that they don't just air the 3 season
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consecutively. Know what I mean?
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Rule in heaven
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:14:37
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Message Number 12412
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Yeah, I liked that one too. Montebon (ah, whatever his name is) was
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excellent in that role. Good thing Shatner didn't write that script,
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though. They would have both spent the entire movie quoting and
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launching into 5 minute speeches!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:17:05
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Message Number 12413
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I truly know what you mean. It's the same with men. That's why so many
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people are still single at 30 or older. It's like people are afraid to
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be themselves. Maybe it boils down to insecurities from childhood. I
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dunno. I can't tolerate phonies either and you can usually spot them
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right away.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Same old situat
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:23:35
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Message Number 12414
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And a message, don't forget, it's actually got a message. I think
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people tend to hear the music and the beat without listening to the
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lyrics..........
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Thank you
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:26:02
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Message Number 12415
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I'd like to thank all the people who made it possible, (clearing my
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throat and launching into a 18 minute speech). What an honor!!
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From: SAAVIK
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: You can't tell
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 12:30:08
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Message Number 12416
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And next point, you shouldn't care. Am I right? I don't care if a
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friend of mine (male or female) likes girls or boys. It's none of my
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business. Sexual pref. is a private thing. I know that if I were a
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lesbian, I certainly would be afraid to admit it just because of all
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the biased people in this world. Somethings wrong here. In a time when
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honesty and self respect are needed, they're being discouraged. No
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wonder the phych. hospitals are full. "excuse my spelling, it's the
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pits".
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: *********
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:29:11
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Message Number 12417
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Actually I'm very good at Wheel of Fortune, but you've /still/ got me
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totally stumped.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: Give it a Rest
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:34:35
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Message Number 12418
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I sure hope none of your friends mind you revealing there sexual
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preferences on the board. Especially your body-builder friend.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Fav shows
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:36:23
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Message Number 12419
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SA>...For instance, they might air one episode 3 times and never air
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SA> another episode.....
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Yeah, I've noticed that too. Usually I can identify a show within about
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five to ten seconds, but occasionally I'll be stumped. Simply because
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I've seen almost all of them five or six times, while others almost have
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me convinced that I might have missed one. They should give all the
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episodes equal air time. You know what I'd like to see, a network air
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every Star Trek episode in sequential order. Whether it was
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back-to-back or over a period of months.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:43:03
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Message Number 12420
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Yep, I can shot them coming a mile away. (to steal a phrase you used)
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I'm 23, and unattached. Personally, I don't like it. As dumb as it may
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sound, when I was little I always figured I would be married by the time
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I was twenty. I've been engaged twice. Screwed over both times. I'm
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glad that didn't married either one of them. I would like to meet
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someone who's true-to-life. Do you have any suggestions as to where I
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can find this rare breed? I mean, just try to meet someone, for
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instance, in a night club. Clubs, now a days, are virtual meat-markets,
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nothing more.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Thank you
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:50:49
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Message Number 12421
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SA> I'd like to thank all the people who made it possible, (clearing my
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SA> throat and launching into a 18 minute speech). What an honor!!
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Go ahead......Just don't post it. heheheheh :)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: You can't tell
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 16:53:48
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Message Number 12422
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SA>....In a time when honesty and self respect are needed, they're being
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SA> discouraged...
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I wonder if that's why soooo many people are phony? Sounds logical to
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me.
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SA> ..No wonder the psychiatric hospitals are full.
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I hear ya, I played counselor to a lot of my friends in high school, and
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still do with some people today.
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From: RUFUS
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: Freakish fears
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 17:19:28
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Message Number 12423
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R>The film procedes with animated hamburgers.
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D> Were they sentient hamburgers?
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I really don't remember. Another fun thing about personal torture
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was when we had our 20 minute lunch break a bunch of us would go
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to the 7-11, buy loads of junk food and return. The lectures almost
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always involved half the food you saw when you looked around. "Twinkies
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are bad for you" you
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[STUPID QUOTE KEY] would hear as you sucked the creamy white
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preservatives out of the middle.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Nuke the networ
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 18:22:14
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Message Number 12425
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I agree completely about airing the shows in sequence. Not just ST but
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all the reruns. I don't understand why they can't do it. It makes sense,
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(sigh) well, heaven forbid they do anything that makes sense. I know
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what you mean about getting stumped occasionally on a St episode.
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Sometimes it takes me 10 minutes in to recognize the show, usually it's
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something like a certain phrase that tips me off (I'm into diologue).
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They haven't aired the Trouble with Tribbles lately and to me, that was
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one of the funniest ones. It beat I, Mudd all to #$%%^.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Clubs
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 18:26:43
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Message Number 12426
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Yeah, the clubs are a trip! I go just to "people watch". I have a lot
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of male friends who echo what you are saying. It seems harder and harder
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to make 'good' friends these days. And the only way to have a lasting
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relationship is to be 'best friends' with your partner...., it takes
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time. When I was younger, I used to think it was the guys who played
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all the stupid mind games, now I know better......, I've seen too
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many really nice guys get their minds worked over by their girlfriends.
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You wouldn't be interested in any of the women I know, they are either
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married, or as plastic as a barbie doll (with about as much personality)
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: 18 minute speec
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 18:31:15
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Message Number 12427
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Had ya worried? Don't...... I couldn't come up with a single intelligent
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thought that would last for 18 minutes..... but then, neither do the
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award winners at the grammies. "Yo, I'd like to thank all the little
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people who served me so well in my sprint to genius. Without them it
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would have taken me at least another month to win this. Chow, babies."
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Shrinks R Us
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 18:34:04
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Message Number 12428
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Same here. People just seem to know they can talk to me about, well,
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just about anything. It's all in the way you listen. Most people don't
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really want advise, they just want to release the pressure and bounce
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their problems off a sympathetic ear. They just need a pat on the back
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or a kick in the ass.
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From: TIBERIUS
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: "Slapped"
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 19:05:53
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Message Number 12429
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>It's all in the body language
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Yes, but languages seemed to be my worst subject. I get one idea, and
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they are saying something completely different.
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From: JONBOY
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: New Topic
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 19:59:33
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Message Number 12430
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SS> least my handle isn't identical to a fag-ish character on the Walton
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My my... ever heard of attacking the thought and not the speaker? Hmmm?
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I happen to be rather proud of ALL my nom de plumes and "handles" as
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they were given to me by people that I cared for and reciprocated. The
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fact that not only did you attack Turtle's method of scraping by in
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the world financially, now you stoop to attacking my nom de guerre.
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Pitiful. It is a shame (and I lament this daily with my peers) that
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there are people in this world that cannot defend themselves except in
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underhanded fashion. I will admit that you do seem better prepared to
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deal with those cold little numbers rather than warm-hearted people.
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Please don't bother to retaliate as I have better things to do and far
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better people to share these things with. Good day sir.
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From: JONBOY
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Slammed
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:05:37
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Message Number 12431
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SS> Sounds like a gay bar to me.
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On second thought - maybe you are a repressed homosexual in search of
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himself. You do seem to see the topic wherever you look. Maybe AJ
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can help you there - nahhh he hangs around respectable people...
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From: JONBOY
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: St
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:09:24
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Message Number 12432
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S> ('nuff said about age)
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Yah! Me too! 'Cept I don't really let it bother me. I'm really glad
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to have been semi-cognizant of the late 60's. I have wondered many
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times if ST was more a product of the era than given credit for.
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S> But above all, do not break the Prime Directive!!!!
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They were pretty loose with the concept of the Prime Directive on more
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than one show. I wish that the technology would have been good enough
|
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to allow better and more robots with an exploration of Asimov's LAws
|
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of Robotics.
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S> He often launched into poetic speeches (very shaksperian...
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Often? You mean like the conclusion of every show? (snigger) I actually
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used to LOVE those gunky speeches and really used to take them to heart.
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I guess Kirk was a real hero figure to me - there were precious few of
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them at that time with rock-n-roll stars starting to gain the position
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of adulation that has now reached silly proportions. Nope - not many
|
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heroes for kids and Nixon really polished off the idea of our leaders
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being worth emulating.
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JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Easy, dude
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:16:27
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Message Number 12433
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S> Now, boys, let's not fight here.
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<behind her back in direction of The Boy of Steel> Braaaacccckkkkkkk!
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o o
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>
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U
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(a-sometimes-rude-and-slightly-intolerant) JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: welcome
|
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:20:34
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Message Number 12434
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T> guess she wanted to share thi particular inability...grr...
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Now now - you should be honored to hold such a trusted position. I was
|
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|
just wondering - I rather liked her ability to be the supreme cold bitch
|
|||
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with some of the upstarts and showboaters. A rare talent that was
|
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by large unappreciated.
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From: JONBOY
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To: TURTLE
|
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Subject: St
|
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:23:26
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Message Number 12435
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T> Better than the new one, no. Well-acted, no.
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|
Ummmm - when I first started watching the STNG, I was appalled at the
|
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terrible acting and really weak story lines that were blatantly lifted
|
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from the old series. The captain was SO stilted and hard-assed that
|
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|
I wondered why theye didn't slit his throat and the brat was almost as
|
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|
bad. They have improved I am happy to say and now have settled into
|
|||
|
their roles where they finally act like real people. I worried the
|
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|
first year tho...
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From: JONBOY
|
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To: SAAVIK
|
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|
Subject: st
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:28:42
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Message Number 12436
|
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|
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|
S> But I like it.
|
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|
A very nice bottom line that I'll stand behind too!
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S> But you know what they say about opinions.....
|
|||
|
You will learn that you should _not_ leave yourself open like that here!
|
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|
I call them denizens with a lot of love but some reality thrown in.
|
|||
|
You really have to watch Max (he's sneaky and has a very dry bite).
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From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:33:56
|
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|
Message Number 12437
|
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|
|||
|
SS> I don't think any country ... could beat Hussien.
|
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|
|||
|
So what? This has as much oomph as "my old man can whip your old man".
|
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|
It is a childish argument and does not merit an actual battle with lives
|
|||
|
lost. We have our nose in someone else business. In my opinion, we are
|
|||
|
over there for economic reasons and thus have sunk to the state that we
|
|||
|
have finally placed a price on human life. Sorry - I ain't having no
|
|||
|
part of it. I served 8 years in the service and would die _for my
|
|||
|
country_ but I will be damned if I _sell_ my ideals on the international
|
|||
|
block of oil cartels and industrialism.
|
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|
|
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|
--==>* JonBoy *<==--
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|
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|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:38:28
|
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|
Message Number 12438
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Oh, please. Come off it.
|
|||
|
C'mon Dave - or I'll take back my nice guy award. Maybe you take my
|
|||
|
wording at some other value. Maybe I should spell out my metaphors
|
|||
|
so that you can grasp them more readily. Icing is a superficially
|
|||
|
sweet condiment that is very thin and insubstantial to the bulk of
|
|||
|
the final product. Got me so far? Or are you too busy trying to look
|
|||
|
self-righteous. The yummy cake part refers to the idea that this in
|
|||
|
fact is the bulk of the product and is what is actually the most filling
|
|||
|
ie the part that isn't readily visible and covered by a thin veneer of
|
|||
|
what we arbitrarily call "beauty". You are dead wrong about the
|
|||
|
curiosity - I would like to meet many of the people on the board so I
|
|||
|
can attach a face to a string of ASCII text representing the "soul" of
|
|||
|
that person as I have gotten to know them second hand. "What" they
|
|||
|
look like as far as a silly concept of beauty and other equally
|
|||
|
repugnant (to me) biases such as sexual persuasion - has absolutely
|
|||
|
no place in MY life. If someone is pleasing to the eye - then that
|
|||
|
really is icing on the cake if they are pleasant, respectful of others,
|
|||
|
and intelligent enough to carry on a coherent conversation.
|
|||
|
Now - hey! I can leer with the best of them under the proper circum-
|
|||
|
stances - like when it is a very impersonal thing directed towards
|
|||
|
some gal that is dressed sharp, looks great and is out to show the
|
|||
|
world. I ain't saying I'm dead and my hormones don't work. But I am
|
|||
|
saying that "looks" are not what I look at or even consider when it
|
|||
|
comes to building ANY kind of relationship. I didn't give two hoots in
|
|||
|
hades about anything when we had our dinner awhile back. I didn't have
|
|||
|
any conceptions about age, fanaticism (on several topics) or what have
|
|||
|
you. I still happen to think that fundamentally you are a nice guy
|
|||
|
but you just don't think, and you really need to open up the empathy
|
|||
|
part of your psyche a bit - in short - grow up Dave.
|
|||
|
A-long-winded- JonBoy
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 20:55:15
|
|||
|
Message Number 12439
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Well, someone hadda die to get those rights secured for you.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tell ya what Dave - you spell out what rights that we are gaining and
|
|||
|
I'll agree that it's a necessary fight. Sigghhhh pacifism is not the
|
|||
|
same as cowaridice and sometimes (sometimes!) takes more courage.
|
|||
|
Taking another human life for the simple reason that it belongs to
|
|||
|
"another side" that simply threatens supply of a certain crude
|
|||
|
mineral deposit when we have plenty here - just turns my guts Dave.
|
|||
|
I mean like makes me want to puke. As far as your heroic war of
|
|||
|
1776 goes - maybe France, Germany Denmark and all the other powers
|
|||
|
should have come to Britains aid with the rebellious little upstart.
|
|||
|
Now granted - our motives were a little different that the demented
|
|||
|
little bastard in Iraq, but the point is [MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS!]
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Self-improvemen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 21:14:39
|
|||
|
Message Number 12440
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> You look forward thepain because you know ..
|
|||
|
You gotta be shitting me! I lift three times daily and I dread the
|
|||
|
pain! It _is_ necessary to a degree tho... deliberate overstressing
|
|||
|
of the muscle creates an adaptive stress response - BUT that is if
|
|||
|
you are after bulk (body building) it is also necessary to vary such
|
|||
|
activity with some sort of aerobic exercise so that the effeciency of
|
|||
|
the cells is increased. This is so that lactic acid concentrations can
|
|||
|
be avoided. If you do not build up the efficiency then weights can
|
|||
|
cause muscle deterioation from lactic acid concentrations - the cells
|
|||
|
simply can't flush themselves fast enough. Also keep in mind that as
|
|||
|
far as metabolizing fat cells - the body breaks down the tissue 50-50.
|
|||
|
You also lose muscle mass at the same time as fat so you have to make
|
|||
|
sure that you are eating properly to avoid stuff like ketosis.
|
|||
|
As far as aerobic exercise - I like raquetball - I HATE running but
|
|||
|
swimming and fast walking are excellent.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 21:29:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12441
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phonies - hmmm yup there's a bunch of them out there but since they are
|
|||
|
so easy to spot - not much of a bother. I really hate the sorriest
|
|||
|
of the lot - the "sophisticate". The ones that right off the bat ask
|
|||
|
what you drive and look at your clothes to see if they're "label". Bah!
|
|||
|
The second worst are the ones that come on as really decent humans and
|
|||
|
then after you start getting into the swing - they decide that there
|
|||
|
are things that need to be changed. I just got over one of those -
|
|||
|
she decided that I really should start liking Chinese food best and stop
|
|||
|
drinking sodas because they'll rot my guts. Sheesh! Maybe she should
|
|||
|
call up the source and custom order one next time. There are many other
|
|||
|
variations to toads and toadettes - I guess ya just have to weed them
|
|||
|
out. So far my resolve to remain a bachelor (after 2 disasters) has
|
|||
|
remained firm.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 21:39:01
|
|||
|
Message Number 12442
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> Do you have any suggestions as to where I can find this rare breed?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You ought to see the really neat gals that hang out at the tennis courts
|
|||
|
and the raquetball courts. Of course - there are a few exceptions
|
|||
|
but I have met lots of nice people.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 21:41:33
|
|||
|
Message Number 12443
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> any of the women I know, they are either married, or as plastic
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hmmm - why is that? I mean the plastic - the married I understand.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: You can't tell
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:10:15
|
|||
|
Message Number 12444
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S> And next point, you shouldn't care. Am I right?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Absolutely. The only time a person's sexual preference is important
|
|||
|
is when you're in bed with thon.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S> I know that if I were a lesbian, I certainly would be afraid to
|
|||
|
S> admit it just because of all the biased people in this world.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The thing that I've never understood: lesbians are not considered as
|
|||
|
bad as gay men, in most bigots' eyes. Imagine being male and homo-
|
|||
|
sexual in this society!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Give it a Rest
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:15:27
|
|||
|
Message Number 12445
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Actually, the body-builder friend has never been on the board, and
|
|||
|
I won't name him. (Several people on this board know him, and would be
|
|||
|
shocked... maybe.) He won't be named any further.
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:17:27
|
|||
|
Message Number 12446
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
> Do you have any suggestions as to where I can find this rare breed?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Damn. The ones I know of are all married.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
When you talk about "clubs," do you mean dancing clubs? Or do you
|
|||
|
mean "clubs" as in organizations? The latter (depending on the organ-
|
|||
|
iazation, of course) might get you to meet some interesting people.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Kind of like my meeting Wolf in the S.C.A. That woman still scares
|
|||
|
me.)
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: RUFUS
|
|||
|
Subject: Freakish fears
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:20:57
|
|||
|
Message Number 12447
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Twinkies are bad for you? Twinkies are bad for you? Hmph. Somewhere
|
|||
|
near an ant pile, put a bit of the cafeteria's mystery meat, and a
|
|||
|
bit of the Twinkie filling, and see which one the ants run towards.
|
|||
|
See? Even they know how good it is for you!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Twinkies have lots of preservatives. Just think: you can stay your
|
|||
|
current age as long as you want! Also, Twinkies make a wonderful
|
|||
|
metaphor for life: you have to dive in, and get to the heart of things
|
|||
|
before you can really enjoy it. Also like life, it's meant for big
|
|||
|
bites.
|
|||
|
Twinkies make the almost perfect post-nuclear holocaust (sp?) food:
|
|||
|
they will last for hundreds of years. (At least the fillings...)
|
|||
|
What more could you ask for? Besides, they contain one of the Four
|
|||
|
Basic College Food Groups: Sugar. (The other three are, of course,
|
|||
|
caffeine, pizza, and alcohol.)
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Motley Crude
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:42:01
|
|||
|
Message Number 12448
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>*yawn*
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>>SLAP!<< Pay attention, you.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> This from a confessed hater of heavy metal. Your prejudice is
|
|||
|
SS>showing. As far as chord structure is concerned, a lot of groups,
|
|||
|
SS>both heavy metal and other forms of music, usually have three or
|
|||
|
SS>four main chords in them.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, like, Great White, Guns 'n' Roses, Cinderella, Poison, and what's
|
|||
|
that other one who's so generic? Oh, yeah, Motely Crue. The one
|
|||
|
redeeming factor of groups like Whitesnake and Kiss is that at least
|
|||
|
they use more than one set of chords for *all* of thier songs.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>...and some damn good guitar riffs.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Any of those groups use thier riffs just to show off how fast the lead
|
|||
|
guitarist can hammer on and pull off on his guitar...not to add to the
|
|||
|
song. They may be fast and good...just not with the pariticular son
|
|||
|
that everone else is playing at the time. By the way, WINGER is an
|
|||
|
excellent example of the lead guitar playing along with the song instead
|
|||
|
of just showing off. "Headed for a Heartache" has a lead in it which is
|
|||
|
not always "ripping up the frets" but still comes off as a fantastic
|
|||
|
riff, *with* the added bonus of going with the song that's being played.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 22:54:23
|
|||
|
Message Number 12449
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF>When did I (as a person) [moot] agree to those rules>
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ok, so you are saying that you want your rights but don't feel like
|
|||
|
taking care of your responsibilities?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 23:04:33
|
|||
|
Message Number 12450
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB>[soapbox speil about the middle east...in an overacted fashion]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Oh, please...
|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/21/91 23:06:41
|
|||
|
Message Number 12451
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB>[another "long-winded" speil...] grow up, Dave.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ok, ok, no need to get defensive. I just choked on your message,
|
|||
|
that's all. Your chivalrous (spoken in Dudley Dooright tones),
|
|||
|
"Now, now, fellows, what she looks like is not important. What *is*
|
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important is that she can carry on an intelligent conversation!" line
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just stuck me as bull...just a little *too* altruistic. When I am
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certain that we all are curious what this "ideal" woman looks like.
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Savvik, if I am being offensive, I aplogise. I used the word "ideal"
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because, well, you do have a lot of qualities that people on this
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board find appealing. The first and foremost (and probably the least
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|||
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common among women) is that you are a ST fan. Next would come your
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well spoken nature and sense of humor. (No, I am not sucking up,
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|||
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which I know SS will accuse me of.)
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Keep in mind that not a whole lot of women use BBS's...much less ST
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fans! Curious...naturally!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Give Peace agin
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 23:17:37
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Message Number 12452
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JB>...but the point is [MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS!]
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Sounds like someone is still a little shell-shocked from Viet Nam...eh?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: You can't tell
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 23:20:54
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Message Number 12453
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DF>;lesbians are not considered as bad as gay men in most bigot's eyes
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uh huh.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: ALL
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Subject: Shameless Plug
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Date & Time: 02/21/91 23:24:41
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Message Number 12454
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And now, a word from our user:
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Ok, for anyone who is interested, the story board is now active on
|
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Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum. Setting is a space station,
|
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and the moderator is yours truly. (And don't worry, I am a fair
|
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moderator.) Participators-to-be should read the storyline description
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|||
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in the text files area.... FIRST!
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Clubs
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 01:52:34
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Message Number 12456
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SA> You wouldn't be interested in any of the women I know, they are
|
|||
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either married, or as plastic as a barbvie doll.
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Yeah! (sign) Sometimes I wonder if there is any hope.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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|||
|
To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Shrinks R Us
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 01:54:48
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|
Message Number 12457
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I try to give sound advice, for some reason (which I don't know) I seem
|
|||
|
to almost radiate an air of trust. A lot of people, including people I
|
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|
have only known for a few minutes, will open up to me about personal
|
|||
|
matters. Granted it's sometimes it's uncomfortable, but I try my best.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
To: JONBOY
|
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|
Subject: New Topic
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 01:59:13
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|
Message Number 12458
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Well, I will respond, not retaliate. You caught me in a bad way, the
|
|||
|
way you said I obvious didn't know the Specialist. He happens to be one
|
|||
|
of my best friends. And for some reason I got offended. So please
|
|||
|
accept my apologies. Show me that you're a better person then I thought
|
|||
|
you were by doing so. I like numbers, they are black and white, not
|
|||
|
full of inconsistencies like people are. I can't deal very well with
|
|||
|
gray areas in life. I strive to make them clear and concise. Although
|
|||
|
I do possess the ability to help others with their problem (believe it o
|
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|
or not) I have a hard time finding workable solutions to my own.
|
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|
Kind of like, "Those who can't do, teach."
|
|||
|
Again, my apologies.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
To: JONBOY
|
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|
Subject: Slammed
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:06:15
|
|||
|
Message Number 12459
|
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|
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|
In previous message I apologized to you, now I think you owe me one.
|
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|
I think you're using the same tactics you accused me of. I'm /not/
|
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|
shallow, and definitely not gay. I highly doubt the Specialist and I
|
|||
|
would be "co-habitating" if that was the case. And yes I /do/ have
|
|||
|
respectable qualitites. Just a warning, I'd like to end this
|
|||
|
misunderstanding now, before you /do/ piss me off. I was wrong initially
|
|||
|
now you're attacking me in the same way.
|
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|
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|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: St
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:12:03
|
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Message Number 12460
|
|||
|
|
|||
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JB> I guess Kirk was a real hero figure to me....
|
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|
|
|||
|
Yeah, he was to me too. I guess that's why I have a hard time finding
|
|||
|
fault with him.
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|
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|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:17:26
|
|||
|
Message Number 12461
|
|||
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|
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JB> ...you really need to open up the empathy part of your psyche a bit
|
|||
|
JB> -in short-grow up Dave.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
First of all, I don't know how long you've known the Specialist but I've
|
|||
|
known him almost as long as he's been living in Florida (just 4 months
|
|||
|
shy). But, one thing I'd never him to do is grow up. He is rather
|
|||
|
mature in a lot of ways. Yes he is set in his ways, and can be rather
|
|||
|
cold and insensitive. But telling him to grow up I think is uncalled
|
|||
|
for.
|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:25:28
|
|||
|
Message Number 12462
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Agreed, I hate those two questions, "What kinda car do you drive? "
|
|||
|
"what do you do for a living?" They're almost saying, will I be
|
|||
|
embarassed if my friends see me in your car, and do you make enough
|
|||
|
money to spoil me. As far as I'm concerned that type of women is
|
|||
|
an instant write-off.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> So far my resolve to remain a bachelor (after 2 disasters) has
|
|||
|
JB> remained firm.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Have you been married twice, or just engaged twice, like me?
|
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:29:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12463
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Where do you play raquetball? I used to play at Jessie P. Miller.
|
|||
|
I love raquetball, but, due to a back injury, I haven't been able to pla
|
|||
|
play in almost a year. I used to be pretty good.
|
|||
|
Maybe if we can solve our differnces we can get together and play
|
|||
|
sometimes!?!
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:31:39
|
|||
|
Message Number 12464
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> Hmmm - wht is that? I mean the plastic - the married I understand.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yeah, I meant to ask that same question. Are your "plastic" friends
|
|||
|
just acquitances or are they "real" with you and plastic towards men?
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:34:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12465
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As far as clubs go, I'm referring to dance clubs.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Motley Crude
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:37:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12466
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, if nothing else I appreciate the fact that you mentioned Kiss,
|
|||
|
Whitesnake, and Winger in a positive manner. (Three of my favorite
|
|||
|
groups) Also, Queensryche is one of my faves too. I do like the Crue
|
|||
|
but I wouldn't refer to them as one of my favorite groups.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 02:41:47
|
|||
|
Message Number 12467
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> (in reference to Saavik) (no, I am not sucking up, which I know SS
|
|||
|
will accuse me of.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Wrong. I'm offended. Dave,(note I'm using your real name) you should
|
|||
|
know that I know you'd never make a play for a married woman. That's
|
|||
|
just not your style. You were being complimentary in an objective
|
|||
|
manner, but you were not sucking up. Anyone can see Saavik has a goood
|
|||
|
sense of humor and can express herself well.
|
|||
|
A rather offended,
|
|||
|
(feeling accused of being shallow)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Scott Steel
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: *********
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 10:18:25
|
|||
|
Message Number 12468
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I STILL haven't any idea... can ya gimme another clue? (please?)
|
|||
|
Thanks,
|
|||
|
Knight Owl
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: 'E'
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 10:19:49
|
|||
|
Message Number 12469
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...eight cinsonants in a row!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Anything's possible...that's why I asked.
|
|||
|
Knight Owl
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: origin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 10:37:03
|
|||
|
Message Number 12470
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just outta curiousity, what is the origin of your handle?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TIBERIUS
|
|||
|
Subject: How not to
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 12:41:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12471
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Don't assume anything. Just make your observations silently and throw
|
|||
|
out little tests......, that's how not to get slapped and how to
|
|||
|
perfect reading body language. There's some people out there you can't
|
|||
|
read no matter what. THEY don't even know what they are going to do
|
|||
|
from moment to moment.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Heros
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 12:45:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12472
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Look at the hero types presented to children in that era. Superman, Bat
|
|||
|
man, no wonder Charles Manson had so many followers.... at least he was
|
|||
|
human, eh? Don't misunderstand, I am disgusted by Charles Manson and his
|
|||
|
family, I was just making the comment that all the hero's were
|
|||
|
impossible examples to follow. At least Kirk was a man, ( and a good
|
|||
|
looking one at that).
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Very cute
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 12:48:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12473
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What, do you sit up nights coming up with these things...... very cute,
|
|||
|
Jonboy.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Weeding
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 12:54:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12474
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Weed them out, I like that. But you know, almost everyone has something
|
|||
|
good about them...... Even the plastics and the phonies, it just takes
|
|||
|
a little longer to get past the bullshit and down to the real person.
|
|||
|
Persistence and patience sometimes do pay off, but it's a gamble.
|
|||
|
Plastics usually have false expectations from life and relationships and
|
|||
|
they don't have the patience or fortitude to "get to know" anyone past
|
|||
|
"like you said" what year Beamer they drive or what boutique they shop
|
|||
|
in. This goes for relationships in general, not just man-woman. I'd
|
|||
|
rather have 1 good friend than 20 plastic friends. But I must admit,
|
|||
|
I considered some of my friends plastic when I first met them (but
|
|||
|
they melted)
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: plastic
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 12:59:51
|
|||
|
Message Number 12475
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, they aren't plastic to me anymore but I've seen them around men,
|
|||
|
especially when they first meet them. It's sickening. They put on this
|
|||
|
phoney facade of sophistication and seduction...... I mean, I like to
|
|||
|
flirt as much as the next woman but these chicks, they build a guy up
|
|||
|
to think that he's getting some kind of rich, nymphmaniac, wonder woman
|
|||
|
and THEN, two weeks after the first date, BLAM!!!! Reality sinks in.
|
|||
|
They just don't know how to be themselves and "talk". It's all BS
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:03:40
|
|||
|
Message Number 12476
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Men don't think "Lesbian" when they think of two women together. They
|
|||
|
think "Hey, ladies, room for one more???". Like it's all some kind of
|
|||
|
warm up to "the real thing". There's no way you could turn that around
|
|||
|
for men. Two guys together, I don't know a single woman who'd like
|
|||
|
sloppy seconds on that one. (sorry for the rude remark).
|
|||
|
I don't think men are offended by bi-sexual women at all. "After all,
|
|||
|
she ain't been anywhere I ain't been before." Says Macho man.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:10:05
|
|||
|
Message Number 12477
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And I am as curious as you guys are. Posting and replying on the boards
|
|||
|
is like getting to know someone over the phone before you meet them. (
|
|||
|
(exactly the same thing). People are more apt to be themselves and speak
|
|||
|
out (even if they are painfully shy in public) over the phone or on a
|
|||
|
BBS. I regret more women don't post on the BBS's, they would gain a
|
|||
|
great insight into the true mind of men and themselves as well.
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: co plug
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:13:54
|
|||
|
Message Number 12478
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Co-plug..... I read the first parts...... "Good reading... Check it out
|
|||
|
y'all!!!"
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Hope
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:15:01
|
|||
|
Message Number 12479
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Never give up hope.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Shrink R Us
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:15:49
|
|||
|
Message Number 12480
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sometimes it's hard to keep a straight face...... But I'd never insult
|
|||
|
anyone by laughing at them. It's just that to some people, the smallest
|
|||
|
annoyance is a BIG problem. "Back to those plastic people again."
|
|||
|
No matter how small the problem seems to me, I'll still listen, I guess
|
|||
|
that's why they keep coming....., eh?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:19:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12481
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> Are they real with you and plastic towards men?
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Yes. Exactly. Although I think they use me sometimes just to get close
|
|||
|
to my male friends. I have a lot of male friends, left over from my
|
|||
|
rock n roll band days. These girls will be talking to me like a normal
|
|||
|
human being and if one of the guys walk up..... BOOM they shift into
|
|||
|
this sickening mascarade (sp?). It makes me want to shake them and yell
|
|||
|
"GROW UP". And they wonder why their relationships don't last.....No one
|
|||
|
can put on an act forever and eventually they began to resent the poor
|
|||
|
guy because they feel they have to "be all things to all men"......
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Thank you
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 13:25:29
|
|||
|
Message Number 12482
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thank you, Scott. It's easy to have a sence of humor in this "Alter
|
|||
|
Reality". Difficult concept, eh?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Weeding
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 17:21:12
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|
Message Number 12484
|
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|
|
|||
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SA> I'd rather have 1 good friend than 20 plastic friends.
|
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|
|
|||
|
Here, here. I only have a few friends, which is of my own choosing.
|
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|
I only allow a few people to get close to me. Most people I don't
|
|||
|
find worthy(that's not a very good word but I can't think of another)
|
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of my friendship.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Hope
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 17:26:56
|
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|
Message Number 12485
|
|||
|
|
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|
Well, like I wrote earlier, I've been engaged twice and screwed over
|
|||
|
hard. Do you want to hear this? It is a long story. I've just found it
|
|||
|
virtually impossible to get to really know most women. Not that I have
|
|||
|
a hard time communicating with women, but they just won't open up. They
|
|||
|
play their games and dance around questions. Arrrrghh, honesty do you
|
|||
|
really want to hear this?
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Worthy?
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 18:34:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12487
|
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|
|
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|
SS> Most people I don't find worty of my friendship.
|
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|
.
|
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|
That sounded pretty concieted but I knew what you meant. True friends
|
|||
|
are usually easy to be with. Those "plastic" people are a strain on
|
|||
|
your patience. I find myself constantly trying to educate them on
|
|||
|
being "real". But (sigh), who am I to tell them how to lead their lives.
|
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|
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Do I wanna....
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 18:37:46
|
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|
Message Number 12488
|
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|
|
|||
|
SS> Do you really want to hear this?
|
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|
.
|
|||
|
Yeah, I do. I like hearing a man's point of view. I used to think it
|
|||
|
was the men who played all the games, but now that I'm "all grown up",
|
|||
|
and not in the game anymore, I can see who's screwing with who's mind.
|
|||
|
The women are definately doing the F*ckovers out there. Not to say
|
|||
|
that all men are just innocent bystanders being plodded on by "mean
|
|||
|
evil" women.
|
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: BEATLE
|
|||
|
Subject: ST movies
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:18:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12489
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>BTW, did anybody see the TNG episode called "Devil's Due"? Very anti-
|
|||
|
>religious (evil grin)...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I saw it, and got it on tape. I didn't find it anti-religious at all;
|
|||
|
just anti-con-artist.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: BEATLE
|
|||
|
Subject: ST stuff
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:19:24
|
|||
|
Message Number 12490
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't know how many Original Trek episodes he has left. He has "The
|
|||
|
Menagerie" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before;" I think he may have
|
|||
|
sold the rest. He still has the movies, though.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:21:18
|
|||
|
Message Number 12491
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Okay, so maybe Max is not a yellow belly coward...But I doubt it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Of course you doubt it; otherwise you wouldn't have called him a coward
|
|||
|
in the first place. I'm not debating with you, since once you have your
|
|||
|
mind set on something it doesn't change and I suspect you'd still call
|
|||
|
Max a coward even if you saw him in the front seat of a tank. My point
|
|||
|
was not to argue about it, I simply state that you are wrong.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As to who I'd rather have in Kuwait, certainly not Hussein. It still
|
|||
|
doesn't take 200,000 troops to kill one man. This is simple stuff,
|
|||
|
fingers-and-toes arithmetic, you know? "But that would leave his
|
|||
|
army intact." So? It's not like squashing it is going to keep Hussein's
|
|||
|
successor from building military power, and it's not like Hussein's
|
|||
|
successor is gonna use it like Hussein did to begin with. Squashing
|
|||
|
Hussein would have caused his occupation of Kuwait to fall apart over-
|
|||
|
night. So far, squashing his army hasn't.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Deal!
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:26:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12492
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>All fags do not act alike, but a great many of them have traits in
|
|||
|
>common.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I know, and I still think it's a sure thing...none of the people Max
|
|||
|
was referring to have any of the traits one would normally associate
|
|||
|
with gays. Okay, so maybe it's a stacked deck...no tipoffs, no limp
|
|||
|
wrists. You really sure you want to give it a shot? If you're looking
|
|||
|
for common traits, you're gonna be in trouble...
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give it a Rest
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:28:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12493
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I say they [Motley Crue] lack the ability to write music because a
|
|||
|
>good 80% of their songs use the same chords in the same fashion...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Only 80%? There are good Motley Crue songs, but I'd say they comprise
|
|||
|
far less than 20% of that group's works to date...and most of the Crue
|
|||
|
stuff I like isn't terribly popular. My opinion: 80% of their stuff is
|
|||
|
crap, 15% is tolerable at low volumes in controlled doses, and 5% is
|
|||
|
worth listening to. Of that latter 5%, about half of it is actually
|
|||
|
good.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Opinions
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:31:27
|
|||
|
Message Number 12494
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Ok, ok, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. There, are
|
|||
|
>you happy????
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ecstatic. Elated. Jump in air, clap paws together, squeal with glee.
|
|||
|
(Do animals without fur have paws? I'm not sure...I have opposing
|
|||
|
thumbs, though...)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>No offence intended, Darlin'.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Darlin'"?????
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I would really like to see a Post-It fish.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, get a fish and some Post-It adhesive...
|
|||
|
:)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Motley Crue
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:35:06
|
|||
|
Message Number 12495
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Motley Crue ain't all bad. Beats Lawrence Welk. But then again,
|
|||
|
>what doesn't it?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What doesn't it what? Do (like, say, emit coherent light, or open cans
|
|||
|
of tuna)? Beat (like, say, Metallica or an inside strait)? Or are
|
|||
|
we talking about what doesn't beat Lawrence Welk (an appendectomy with
|
|||
|
a chainsaw, Mike Tyson)? Enquiring minds want to know!
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Fav Shows
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:38:13
|
|||
|
Message Number 12496
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>But, all in all I really don't dislike any of the show.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not even the hippie episode? That's amazing!
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: st
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:44:02
|
|||
|
Message Number 12497
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> No, what DO they say about opinions?
|
|||
|
SS>Not necessarily factual, but only perspective.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I like Saavik's better.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:46:58
|
|||
|
Message Number 12498
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It seems that so many people have given up hope on real relation-
|
|||
|
>ships, and have substituted cheap thrills.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes and no. Yes, that is true; no, it's nothing new. Human beings,
|
|||
|
the rational beings they are, will make rational decisions about almost
|
|||
|
every aspect of their lives EXCEPT THE MOST IMPORTANT, which has
|
|||
|
always been something that utterly baffles me. When it comes to
|
|||
|
dealings and interactions with other people, especially the intimate
|
|||
|
kind, people in general switch off the ol' forebrain and run on
|
|||
|
instinct...let knee-jerk reactions like jealousy or posession or
|
|||
|
security or territory or simple fear make their decisions for them.
|
|||
|
Go figure.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
Subject: protocols
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:51:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12499
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ANSI is a cursor-positioning standard (baserd on the DEC VT-102
|
|||
|
terminal standard) that has nothing to do with graphics. A lot of
|
|||
|
people confuse ANSI cursor positioning with IBM graphics characters
|
|||
|
and if you want one you get both. A terminal which emulates ANSI
|
|||
|
(like mine) still will not be able to produce IBM graphics characters
|
|||
|
unless your computer has an IBM character generator or a software driver
|
|||
|
of some sort. Your best bet is just to leave it turned off, since
|
|||
|
ANSI is as slow as frozen molasses in zero gee anyway. There are BBS
|
|||
|
packages (Telegard comes to mind) that let you switch ANSI and
|
|||
|
IBM Graphics on and off independantly, but most BBSes don't (I suspect
|
|||
|
because most IBM programmers don't know that ANSI and IBM graphics are
|
|||
|
not the same thing).
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: ST stuff
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:55:16
|
|||
|
Message Number 12500
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's still available. Tell Raven to get in touch with me and I'll see
|
|||
|
about getting him the ferret from Tampa. I think it's about a year
|
|||
|
old; it's litter-trained already and very tame (and it's not the albino
|
|||
|
variety).
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give War agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:56:33
|
|||
|
Message Number 12501
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I think you've hit the nail on the head, so to speak; The Specialist
|
|||
|
claims to despise religion, but damned if his attitude toward his
|
|||
|
country doesn't look, functionally, like a religion. If it walks like
|
|||
|
a duck...
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give it a Rest
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 20:58:11
|
|||
|
Message Number 12502
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I'd say it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to tell what a person's sexual pref-
|
|||
|
>erences are from how they act.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Much as I loathe to say it, once again I find myself in The
|
|||
|
Specialist's camp on this one. If there were no reasonably consistent
|
|||
|
behavioral traits, there would be no stereotype associated with "gay
|
|||
|
behavior;" after all, stereotypes are based, however loosely, on fact.
|
|||
|
There ARE traits that some gays exhibit which identify their sexual
|
|||
|
preference; if you deny this I invite you to look around campus some-
|
|||
|
time. I don't believe these traits are as common among gays as The
|
|||
|
Specialist seems to believe; they certainly aren't universal, nor are
|
|||
|
they always accurate. They do undeniably exist, though.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:01:47
|
|||
|
Message Number 12503
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It's like people are afraid to be themselves.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ding.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Maybe it boils down to insecurities...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ding.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>...from childhood.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Or anywhere else. There are other factors involved, but basic insecurity
|
|||
|
is a big one.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Same old situat
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:03:31
|
|||
|
Message Number 12504
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I think people tend to hear the music and the beat without listening
|
|||
|
>to the lyrics...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not this person. Lyrics are the most important part of a song, although
|
|||
|
by themselves they can't make up for truly atrocious music. I don't like
|
|||
|
the sledgehammer approach to lyrical writing that most people seem to
|
|||
|
employ, though; you know, the "If ya got something to say it say it
|
|||
|
directly" philosophy. Subtlety is a good thing; for example, I wonder
|
|||
|
how many people know the Don Henley song "All She Wants To Do Is
|
|||
|
Dance" is about the U.S. involvement in Central and South America?
|
|||
|
Good lyrics.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: You can't tell
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:06:13
|
|||
|
Message Number 12505
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I don't care if a friend of mine...likes girls or boys.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Men or women, surely you mean. Just a minor quibble, but I have an
|
|||
|
attitude toward people who molest children that makes The Specialist's
|
|||
|
reaction to gays seem downright loving.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Somethings wrong here.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ding.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:08:40
|
|||
|
Message Number 12506
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I mean, just try to meet someone, for instance, in a night club.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey! I resent that...one of my closest friends (and a former roommate)
|
|||
|
used to /work/ in a night club, as a dancer. While I see your point,
|
|||
|
it is possible to meet "real people" /anywhere/. You just have to know
|
|||
|
what you're looking for, know how to recognize it when you see it, and
|
|||
|
know what to do when you recognize it...and in this sort of situation,
|
|||
|
"he who hesitates is lost" holds true more often than "look before you
|
|||
|
leap," at least as far as being willing to reveal enough of yourself to
|
|||
|
begin a real intimate (as opposed to physically intimate, which is easy)
|
|||
|
relationship is concerned. Nothing to it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Nothing to defusing land mines either: ya just gotta know how to spot
|
|||
|
'em, how to dig 'em up without setting 'em off, and how to get the
|
|||
|
detonator out in one piece...)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:15:51
|
|||
|
Message Number 12507
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It seems harder and harder to make 'good' friends these days.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
is it really getting harder these days, or is it as you grow more
|
|||
|
experienced you can recognize more easily when what you have isn't it?
|
|||
|
I hardly think it's the state of the society that's changing; after
|
|||
|
all, we are still coming down off the "me" 70's and the "ego trip"
|
|||
|
80's.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: St
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:19:42
|
|||
|
Message Number 12508
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The New Generation's first season is rather like the old Trek's third--
|
|||
|
nine-month-long ghastly mistakes. I'm glad the Next Generation finally
|
|||
|
settled into something that's consistently wirth watching...I refused to
|
|||
|
watch most of the first season. By and large, I prefer the new Trek to
|
|||
|
the old, although the old still had a few amazing episodes that really
|
|||
|
shine (and still haven't been matched in the new), and the old has
|
|||
|
the new's first season beat cold.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:25:15
|
|||
|
Message Number 12509
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>The second worst are the ones that come on like decent human
|
|||
|
>beings [and]...decide there are things that need to be changed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'd put them at number 3. Number two are the people who come on like
|
|||
|
decent human beings until the magical instant you start having a
|
|||
|
Relationship, at which time you become part and parcel of their
|
|||
|
property...they suddenly feel they have the right to control
|
|||
|
who you see, where you go, what you do and when, etc. I've known a
|
|||
|
couple of people like that, although never had to deal with any on
|
|||
|
any sort of a "going-out" relationship. Speaking of which: I never
|
|||
|
could grok the distinction a lot of people see between relationships
|
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|
(ie, close friendships) and Relationships; to me they seem to be on
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a contimuum, but a lot of people I've talked to seem to see them as
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qualitatively different. Ditto for attitudes like "I love you; I'm just
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not 'in love' with you," as though emotional intimacy comes in different
|
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flavors. Manifest Bullshit if ever I saw it.
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From: TURTLE
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: You can't tell
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:29:54
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Message Number 12510
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>The thing I've never understood: Lesbians are not considered as bad
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>as [male gays]...
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An observation I made a long time ago. It's a male-dominated society,
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still, and if you're male the thought of two women sleeping together
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is not likely to have the same gut-churning impact as the thought of
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two men sleeping together. Pick up any 'Penthouse Forum' type magazine
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and you'll see all sorts of two-girls-making-it stories, but never, ever
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a two-guys-making-it incident. I even know some rather...opinionated
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anti-gay bigots who are actively turned on by the prospect of two
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women sleeping together. Go figure.
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From: TURTLE
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To: DRAGONFLY
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Subject: Lupine people
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:33:12
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Message Number 12511
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>(Kind of like my meeting Wolf in the S.C.A. That woman still scares
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>me.)
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Wolf? She's mostly harmless. I've known /real/ scary women...hell, I've
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lived with really scary women. Wolf isn't scary.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Motley Crude
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:35:58
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Message Number 12512
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>Any of those groups use thier riffs just to show off how fast the
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>lead guitarist can hammer on and pull off on his guitar...not to add
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>to the song.
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You know, it's really starting to bother me that I am agreeing with
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you on matters of taste now. Sadly, there it is: I agree. hat's
|
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why, on the whole, I'd rather have my tongue sandpapered off than listen
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to, say, Poison... On the other hand, that assessment isn't as
|
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universally true as I think you thnk it is, so maybe there's some hope.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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|
Subject: Give Peace agin
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:39:20
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Message Number 12513
|
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|
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>Sounds like someone is still a little shell-shocked from Viet Nam...eh?
|
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Oh, give it a rest. You and I both know that if the people who founded
|
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this country saw what we are doing they'd vomit...and I'd be standing in
|
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line to use the toilet right behind them. Supporting a war to re-
|
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|
establish a dictator in a brutal, repressive country...silliest damn
|
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|
idea I ever heard of. Making it sound like fighting for this tyrant is
|
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|
the most patriotic thing any American citizen who values freedom and
|
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liberty could ever do...pathetic.
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From: TURTLE
|
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To: SAAVIK
|
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Subject: How not to
|
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:44:18
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Message Number 12514
|
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|
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>There's some people out there you can't read no matter what. THEY
|
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>don't even know what they are going to do from moment to moment.
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|
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|
Yes, there are people whose body language you can't read, but no, that's
|
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|
not usually why. Lots of different things can make someone's body
|
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|
language unreadable...anything from time in jail to martial arts
|
|||
|
training to simple closedness and emotional defensiveness. I've seen
|
|||
|
people who have taken unreadability to an art form.
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From: TURTLE
|
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To: SAAVIK
|
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|
Subject: Amen
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:47:55
|
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|
Message Number 12515
|
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|
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>I don't think men are offended by bi-sexual women at all.
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|
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|
Depends on the man. I know of at least one who is...
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From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 21:48:39
|
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Message Number 12516
|
|||
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|
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|
>I regret more women don't post on the BBS's, ...
|
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|
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|
Ever hear of the phrase "board rape"? I know very well why more women
|
|||
|
don't post on BBS's...I've seen more than one be driven away from
|
|||
|
BBS's in general because of unpleasant experiences on one or two
|
|||
|
systems. Everything from endless E-mail to harassment in the message
|
|||
|
bases and even harassment from the sysop. It's surprising how common it
|
|||
|
is.
|
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|
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|
|
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Opinions
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:09:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12517
|
|||
|
|
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|
T> Darlin'????
|
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|
.
|
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|
Don't take it personal. I call everyone Darlin'. It's just how I talk.
|
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|
T> Get a fish and some Post it adhesive.
|
|||
|
.
|
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|
Last time I checked, the only thing that sticks to fish is slime.
|
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|
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|
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From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:12:14
|
|||
|
Message Number 12518
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I meant to say, Beats Lawrence Welk, but then again, what doesn't (beat
|
|||
|
Lawrence Welk). Hey, what can I say??? Are enquiring minds satisfied?
|
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|
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|
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Hippie show
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:14:19
|
|||
|
Message Number 12519
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"I'm going to Eden, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally stupid. As a hard core
|
|||
|
ST fan, MY intelligence was insulted by that one. It was an appeal to
|
|||
|
the drug culture.... Peace, baby.
|
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:17:42
|
|||
|
Message Number 12520
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
When it comes to dealings... with other people, esspecially the intimate
|
|||
|
kind, people in general swith off the (condensed) brain and run on
|
|||
|
instinct .... go figure.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Go figure, indeed. When you sit down in front of your computer, you
|
|||
|
usually know what to expect. You know how it works and why.., but when
|
|||
|
it comes to relationships (both intimate and casual), you never really
|
|||
|
know what's going on in the noble head of the other person. Instict is
|
|||
|
all ya' got.
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:23:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12521
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> There are other factors involved......
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Do you think a person who has had a sound childhood and made it past the
|
|||
|
adolesent BS with flying colors can become insecure as an adult. Most
|
|||
|
of the people I knew in High school who were considered "winners" are
|
|||
|
still just that. Barring something totally traumatic happening to you
|
|||
|
as an adult, I think if you have it together through your teens, you've
|
|||
|
got a good chance at being a "real person". Plastic people generally
|
|||
|
lacked sincere love and affections as children and teens. Agree?
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Same old situat
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:28:45
|
|||
|
Message Number 12522
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I didn't know that....., hmmm, I'll have to listen to that song again.
|
|||
|
I'm into lyrics myself. If the music's good but the lyrics suck, the
|
|||
|
song doesn't interest me. That's why I hated DISCO (both the lyrics and
|
|||
|
the music stunk).
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: You can't tell
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:30:58
|
|||
|
Message Number 12523
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>Men or women, surely you mean.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Surely I did. (quibble, quibble) And as for child molesters, "BOOM",
|
|||
|
I can't believe they keep turning them loose. (they, meaning the law).
|
|||
|
My son was molested when he was three years old, and the son of a $%^&
|
|||
|
tried his best to pull a THREE YEAR OLD child on the witness stand. It
|
|||
|
was a tactic by the defence to weaken the case. I'm happy (happy?) to
|
|||
|
say, the son of a bitch got 30 years from a plea bargain.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Land mines
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:36:50
|
|||
|
Message Number 12524
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nice comparison. But this day and age, he who hesitates may be lost but
|
|||
|
he's not gonna die of AIDS.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:38:27
|
|||
|
Message Number 12525
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> As you grow more experienced you can recognize more easily when what
|
|||
|
you have, isn't it....(good friends).
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
I concede. The world isn't changing, I am. If the 70's were the ME age,
|
|||
|
and the 80's were the "EGO TRIP", what do you predict for the 90's?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:41:56
|
|||
|
Message Number 12526
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> "I love you; I'm just not 'in love' with you," as though emotional
|
|||
|
T> intimacy comes in different flavors. Bullshit?
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
No, there is a difference. I love you means (or should mean) I accept
|
|||
|
you and I want to be with you and only you. I love you; I'm just not
|
|||
|
in love with you means I care for you, I don't want to lose you're
|
|||
|
friendship but you just ain't doing it for me. It's the last thing a guy
|
|||
|
says before he never calls you again (unless it's to get your sisters
|
|||
|
phone number). Not actually true. Haven't you ever had a intimate
|
|||
|
relationship with someone that wasn't going well for one reason or the
|
|||
|
other but you didn't want to lose them???? You loved them, but you
|
|||
|
knew that this wasn't "it".
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: How not to
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:50:21
|
|||
|
Message Number 12527
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I've seen people who have taken unreadability to an art form.
|
|||
|
Yes, that's true. I've met people who were very cold at first impression
|
|||
|
but they usually turn out to be very nice people once you get past the
|
|||
|
defence shields. Most people won't make the effort to melt the ice,
|
|||
|
however. It's the same with shy people, they're branded as snobs because
|
|||
|
they don't leap into conversations or look people in the eye.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:53:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12528
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>Men aren't offended by bi-sexual women
|
|||
|
T>I know of at least one who is....
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Would his name happen to be Turtle?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 22:55:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12529
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It's surprising how common it is.(board rape, harrassment)
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
I haven't come across it yet. I haven't been posting all that long,
|
|||
|
though. I suppose there are "jerks" every where. I have this habit of
|
|||
|
calling people (both male and female) Darlin' and Babe. I suppose I
|
|||
|
should refrain on the boards so I won't encourage the "jerks". I'm
|
|||
|
basically a open person and I like to post like I talk. Thanks for
|
|||
|
the warning.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: New Topic
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:16:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12530
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> Again - my aplogies
|
|||
|
Accepted
|
|||
|
A-most-benign- JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:18:00
|
|||
|
Message Number 12531
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> I was wrong initially
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yup - you sure were - see how it spread into further misunderstandings?
|
|||
|
I agree let's drop it as I really was out of line in suggesting that
|
|||
|
you were hiding in the closet - I also did not intend on any allusions
|
|||
|
between you and Dave - although I CAN see where you two would be
|
|||
|
best friends - mutual bigot society and all that. Anyway - Dave can
|
|||
|
attest that I really am a nice guy and we really should try to get the
|
|||
|
whole gang together sometime.
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:21:52
|
|||
|
Message Number 12532
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> I think is uncalled for -
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well - I don't just as Dave can bash gays - I can bash bigots and
|
|||
|
even trounce a few chauvanists in my time. If you want to live
|
|||
|
by the sword figuratively speaking you should be prepared to answer
|
|||
|
for your remarks. I happen to feel that bigotry is a sign of an
|
|||
|
immature mind.
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:24:31
|
|||
|
Message Number 12533
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I hate to admit that I was actually lured into marriage twice by
|
|||
|
unscrupulus females. (beat me hurt me!)
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:26:04
|
|||
|
Message Number 12534
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> Solve our diffewrences -
|
|||
|
Well I have never ever let something silly like a minor disagreement
|
|||
|
get in the way of getting to know someone. I go all the time to
|
|||
|
Jesse P. Miller as it is the only free one left in Bradenton.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:27:40
|
|||
|
Message Number 12535
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> real towards you and plastic towards men?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Exactly!
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
Subject: origin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:29:21
|
|||
|
Message Number 12536
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's very simple - my name is Jon and my friends and his kids started
|
|||
|
just calling me that ages ago and it has stuck.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Very cute
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:31:37
|
|||
|
Message Number 12537
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> very cute
|
|||
|
Thank you - nahhhh after awhile they just come to you - I did
|
|||
|
spend a lot of time on my Bill the Cat Bixie (what the ascii doo-dads
|
|||
|
aree called) I might send it if ya ask nice.
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:34:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12538
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> ... sloppy seconds ...
|
|||
|
well after a few seconds of gasping for air between giggles we have
|
|||
|
to admit that you ARE in rare form tonite - I love outspoken people.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:36:55
|
|||
|
Message Number 12539
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> rock-n-roll band days...
|
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Screeeetttcchhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Now ya got my attention (Dave's too!)
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From: JONBOY
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: curious
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Date & Time: 02/22/91 23:50:18
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Message Number 12540
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Exactly why I made the comment that I did. SAAVIk made a comment that
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indicated that she was a little hesitant and here comes the comments
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on looks --- I get kind of tired of remarks like tese that reinforce the
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idea that that is all they are worth.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Motley Crude
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:03:36
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Message Number 12541
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SS> Kiss, Whitesnake, and Winger
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SS> I do like the Crue but I wouldn't refer to them as one of my
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SS> fav groups.
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Well, I could class Winger as one of my favs...but the only stuff
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that I like from Kiss is thier old stuff...and Whitesnake...eh...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Amen
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:07:57
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Message Number 12542
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S>[remarks on men don't think "lesbian" about two women...but two men
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S>turn women off...]
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Actually, I do think "lesbian"; actualy, the word that comes to mind
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is "dyke".
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I think that the reason men don't feel so bad towards woman-woman
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is that they don't think that both women can be as homely as mud
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covered fences. Most men think beautiful woman with a beautiful
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woman, and this appeals to them--because if one beautiful woman is
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a pleasure to watch, then two is twice the pleasure!
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Now with this in mind, take a look at the stereotype there--a
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beautiful woman is a pleasure to behold.
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On the flip side of the coin, a woman (or most women, excuse me if
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I am dead wrong but figger the odds) looks for masculinity in a man.
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So one man who is masculine is a pleasure to behold (to a woman). Two
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men together...well, it kinda blows that masculinity away. (Excuse the
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pun.) So, naturally a woman wouldn't be interested in non-masculine
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men. (And you CAN'T tell ME that a man who does sexual acts with
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another man is in ANY way shape or form masculine. He may have the
|
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physique of Adonis but if he sucks dick (pardon) he is NOT masculine.)
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As for myself...I am against homosexuality anyway....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: curious
|
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:17:15
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Message Number 12543
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Y'know, if everyone is so curious, there is a great way to meet. About
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once a month, Charles Dittel (the sysop of Suncoast City BBS 9535505 or
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something like that) holds a breakfast/lunch get together (commonly
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called the Suncoast City Picknick--yes, spelled like that). You should
|
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make plans to come to the next one. Bring yer hubby, too.
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Great idea! Or, come to the next RufusCon.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Do I wanna....
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:21:42
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Message Number 12544
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SS>Do you really want to hear this?
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S> Yeah, I do.
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Ahrhg! Don't encourage him!!!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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|
Subject: Give Peace agin
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|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:23:12
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Message Number 12545
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I don't think squashing Hussien would be that easy. Assassination
|
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|
is very tricky. Besides, this needs to be a joint effort...to show
|
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|
the world that the UN is "United" Nations...not just United States.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
|
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To: TURTLE
|
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|
Subject: Fine.
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:25:21
|
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Message Number 12546
|
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|
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T>You really sure you want to give it a shot?
|
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|
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|
Yes, but let's do it via E-Mail. I don't wanna offend anyone
|
|||
|
without a good reason. You list the people, I'll put down the odds.
|
|||
|
(Like a percentage of how sure I am.) How much money do you want to
|
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|
put on it?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Give it a Rest
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:27:13
|
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|
Message Number 12547
|
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|
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|
T>...80% of thier stuff is crap, 15% is tolerable at low volumes in
|
|||
|
T>controlled doses, and 5% is worth listening to. Of that latter 5%,
|
|||
|
T>about half of it is actually good.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Sounds pretty accurate, but I wouldn't use the word "good", I'd say
|
|||
|
adequate.
|
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|
|
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|
Looks like we're agreeing again...hell with it. I agree.
|
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|
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|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:30:49
|
|||
|
Message Number 12548
|
|||
|
|
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|
T>...EXCEPT THE MOST IMPORTANT...let knee-jerk reactions...make thier
|
|||
|
T>decisions for them.
|
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|
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|
Thank you Turtle for that analytical assessment. Predictable.
|
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|
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|
|
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|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Give War agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:33:29
|
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|
Message Number 12549
|
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|
|
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|
I never claimed to despise religion...I simply agree with someo fo
|
|||
|
your viewpoints. Actually, some of the things you find in religion
|
|||
|
(stripped of thier Godliness) are pretty good guidelines for life.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>If it walks like a duck...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Then investigate it, and make sure that you don't make any asinine
|
|||
|
assumtions.
|
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|
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|
|
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|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:41:47
|
|||
|
Message Number 12550
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>Supporting a war to re-establish a dictator in a brutal, repressvie
|
|||
|
T>country
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Irrelevant. We are fighting to restore a government, irreguardless of
|
|||
|
what that government is like. That dictatorship is the *proper*
|
|||
|
government of that country, and we are fighting to restore the govnt,
|
|||
|
not the brutality or repressiveness (not intentionally, anyway.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Oh, and by the way, you don't seem to understand that the brutality
|
|||
|
or repressivness is *part* of that government, and just because *you*
|
|||
|
percieve it doesn't mean that they do. It's the way they run thier
|
|||
|
country and if that's the way they want to run it, that's thier
|
|||
|
business. Or do you want to wish our way of running things on every
|
|||
|
one else, too?
|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:48:24
|
|||
|
Message Number 12551
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>I don't think men are offended by bi-sexual women at all.
|
|||
|
T>Depends on the man. I know of at least one who is...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And who would that be?
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:52:38
|
|||
|
Message Number 12552
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>Men aren't offended by bi-sexual women
|
|||
|
T>I know of at least one who is....
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
S>Would his name happen to be Turtle?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HEHAHAHHEHAHEHAHEHAHEHAEHEHAEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! NO WAY!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Chortle...chuckle...thanks for the laugh...heheh.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:54:56
|
|||
|
Message Number 12553
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB>Anyway- Dave can attest that I really am a nice guy and we really
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Er...yeah, I guess that he's ok. Got a nasty left hook, though. Don't
|
|||
|
irritate him and discuss things with him in an intelligent manner and
|
|||
|
he's pretty docile.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:56:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12554
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB>I happen to feel that bigotry is a sign of an immature mind.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Either that or we know something that you haven't found out yet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Think about it....
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 00:57:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12555
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB>...lured into marriage twice... (beat me hurt me!)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Make me write bad checks!
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SAVVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Band
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 01:05:35
|
|||
|
Message Number 12556
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S> rock-n-roll band days...
|
|||
|
JB>[Screetch!] Now you got my attention (and Dave's)! Fill us in...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, please do...I wonder how that message got past me...?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Worthy?
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:10:59
|
|||
|
Message Number 12557
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mt sentiments exactly.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Fav Shows
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:16:15
|
|||
|
Message Number 12558
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Honetsly I can't remember much about the hippie episode. Please provide
|
|||
|
me with some details, then I can give a more informed opinion.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: st
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:17:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12559
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I think Saavik's definition of opinions is more suited for today's world
|
|||
|
But I think mine is more Vulcan sounding, and that's good enough for me.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:29:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12560
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Plastic people generally lacked sincere love and affections as
|
|||
|
children and teens. Agree? (quote from Saavik, forgot S>)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
No, I don't agree. I was brought up in a home where threats of divorce
|
|||
|
were a bi-weekly thing. As well as endless mind games, and power
|
|||
|
trips. But I survived, and didn't resort to becoming plastic.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: You can't tell
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:32:54
|
|||
|
Message Number 12561
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sorry to hear about your son. They should fry the bastard, and all
|
|||
|
like him after they get gang-raped in prison. No mercy. NONE! Period.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Is your son okay?
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:37:12
|
|||
|
Message Number 12562
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> altough I can see where you two would be best friends - mutual
|
|||
|
JB> bigot society and all that.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm NOT a bigot. Actually I flirt with some of my /close/ male friends.
|
|||
|
We both know that we're both straight but we do joke around.
|
|||
|
Additionally, I have had several gay friends, as well as a close
|
|||
|
relative who had homosexual tendencies. I also wear boots,(you know
|
|||
|
that Black Sabbath song, "Fairies Wear Boots"?) and have three earrings
|
|||
|
in my left ear. Yes, I have laughed at by girls and recieved cat-call
|
|||
|
implying that I was gay. But I'm mine own person and if people can't
|
|||
|
expect me for me than f*ck 'em. The Specialist wouldn't have his ear
|
|||
|
pierce because I believe he feels that someone might mistake him for
|
|||
|
being gay. Me, I don't care if someone thinks that of me. Like I said
|
|||
|
I'm not a bigot. I believe that homosexuality is wrong I'm not going to
|
|||
|
try to tell someone how to live, and kill them if they won't go straight
|
|||
|
And yes, the Specialist and I have had several talks about homosexuality
|
|||
|
and we simply have agreed to disagree. Because he knows he won't chang
|
|||
|
e me, and I know it's hopeless to change his mind set about anything.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:47:21
|
|||
|
Message Number 12563
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> I happen to feel tht bigotry is a sign of an immature mind.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well then I guess my mind isn't immature, because, like I already said
|
|||
|
I'm not a bigot.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:48:52
|
|||
|
Message Number 12564
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, let me know when you want to get together and play. I'm avialable
|
|||
|
the weekend, you big stud you. (I'm not a bigot.) heheheh :)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Do I wanna....
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:53:17
|
|||
|
Message Number 12565
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> Do you really want to hear this?
|
|||
|
S> Yeah, I do.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Ahrhg! Don't encourage him!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Don't worry I'll post in E-mail. Since it would be addressed to Saavik
|
|||
|
and more importantly I know better than to let loose with /that/ kind
|
|||
|
of stuff in front of this bunch. Besides, I hate to see you suffer.
|
|||
|
heheh:)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 04:57:28
|
|||
|
Message Number 12566
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Don't irritate hime and discuss things with him in an intelligent
|
|||
|
TS> manner and he's pretty docile.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Whoa, there. Watch it, pal(?) If you trying to piss me off, you just
|
|||
|
succeeded.
|
|||
|
Let me guess.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Good.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Predictable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Have a day.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 05:00:17
|
|||
|
Message Number 12567
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Either that or we know something that you haven't found out yet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Jonboy was refering to you and I as bigots. You know that I'm not a
|
|||
|
bigot.
|
|||
|
And where do you get this "we" shit? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TIBERIUS
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: How not to
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 09:20:25
|
|||
|
Message Number 12568
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'll have to get back into the swing of reading body language. I know it
|
|||
|
will take some time, but it should pay off in the long run, eh? Thanks
|
|||
|
for the tips.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: protocols
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 12:04:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12570
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To the best of my knowledge, the terminal also includes IBM ascii.
|
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I'll tinker with it some more just for fun.
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Yes, I agree, IBM color menus are really slow, I was surprisd when I saw
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it.
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SEE YA!
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A non-ANSI
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Knight Owl
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From: KNIGHT OWL
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To: JONBOY
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|
Subject: origin
|
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 12:22:14
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Message Number 12571
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|
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The origin of my handle comes from staying up all night. Then there was
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another Night Owl from the Tampa area who calls Venice periodically, so
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I had to make a change.
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Well, having survived some hard times recently I thought that Knight Owl
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was suitable.
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SEE YA!
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From: KNIGHT OWL
|
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To: SCOTT STEEL
|
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 12:30:59
|
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|
Message Number 12572
|
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|
|
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|
I agree with you, I come from an alcoholic family and I don't have to
|
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fake anything.
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|
Coming from a dysfunctional family can be a source of strength because
|
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|
when you survive the early times, you can survive anything life brings
|
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|
you.
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|
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|
Without honesty and reality, people are nothing but paper tigers in the
|
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wind.
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SEE YA!
|
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|
a 100% real
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Knight Owl
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From: TURTLE
|
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|
To: SAAVIK
|
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|
Subject: Opinions
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 13:52:22
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Message Number 12573
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|
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>Last time I checked, the only thing that sticks to fish is slime.
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|
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|
That's because you're still thinking of fish, not Post-It fish. Post-It
|
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|
fish will stick to any smooth, nonporous substance, and peel off without
|
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|
leaving any adhesive residue.
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From: TURTLE
|
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To: SAAVIK
|
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|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 13:53:33
|
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Message Number 12574
|
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|
|
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>...but then again, what doesn't (beat Lawrence Welk).
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|
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|
Dying in a tragic combination bus/train/avocado/airplane accident.
|
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|
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|
>Are enquiring minds satisfied?
|
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|
|
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|
No. Now they want to know every possible use for two washers and
|
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|
six feet of string.
|
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|
From: TURTLE
|
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|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 13:55:10
|
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|
Message Number 12575
|
|||
|
|
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|
>...when it comes to relationships (both intimate and casual), you
|
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|
>never really know what's going on in the noble head of the other
|
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|
>person.
|
|||
|
|
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|
True.
|
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|
|
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|
>Instinct is all ya' got.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Not true. The fact that you can't predict the other person's thoughts
|
|||
|
or actions is no excuse for allowing instinctive and irrational
|
|||
|
reactions like jealousy or posessiveness to interfere with good old
|
|||
|
fashioned understanding and communication, ya know? jealousy is
|
|||
|
an evil, destructive force that has no place in any relationship
|
|||
|
between any reasonable people and has no more redeeming merits than
|
|||
|
bigotry, selfishness, or any of the other petty little concerns that
|
|||
|
more appropriatley belong with lizards than with any being posessing a
|
|||
|
central nervous system more sophisticated than a brainstem. Leave the
|
|||
|
instinct to snakes and skinks; they get along just fine with nothing
|
|||
|
else. I won't model my relationships on their example, though.
|
|||
|
|
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|
@(SetTirade Off)
|
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:01:30
|
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|
Message Number 12576
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Do you think a person who had a sound childhood and made it past
|
|||
|
>the adolescent BS with flying colors can become insecure as an adult.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes. I also think that people with a traumatic childhood who learned
|
|||
|
no social skills whatsoever during adolescence can become secure,
|
|||
|
well-adjusted adults. insecurity has more than one sorce, and a bad
|
|||
|
childhood is not necessarily an irreversible condemnation.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Land mines
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:03:38
|
|||
|
Message Number 12577
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>But this day and age, he who hesitates may be lost but he's not gonna
|
|||
|
>die of AIDS.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I thought we were talking about "real" intimacy here. Physical intimacy
|
|||
|
is easy, but that's not what /I/ was discussing. In any event, AIDS is
|
|||
|
a controllable threat, and throughout all of human history there has
|
|||
|
only been a span of about twenty years (between the discovery of
|
|||
|
antibiotics and the appearance of antibiotic-resistent strains of
|
|||
|
social diseases) where you did NOT have to worry about a sexual
|
|||
|
liason killing you. That's something I think a lot of people have
|
|||
|
forgotten; everyone is almost outraged that the race is faced with a
|
|||
|
fatal, incurable social disease, totally forgetting that that is
|
|||
|
simply business as normal. In, say, 1852, syphillis was almost
|
|||
|
invariably fatal, and it takes years and years to kill ITS victims,
|
|||
|
too.
|
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|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:07:14
|
|||
|
Message Number 12578
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>If the 70's were the ME age, and the 80's were the "EGO TRIP",
|
|||
|
>what do you predict for the 90's?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Beats me; I never claimed to be in the fortunetelling industry. I might
|
|||
|
hazard a guess and call the 90's the age of fascist liberalism, though.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:08:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12579
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>I love you means...I love and accept you and I want to be with you
|
|||
|
>and only you.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You seem to be basing that assumption on the idea that you can only
|
|||
|
be "in love" with one person at a time. I catagorically deny that
|
|||
|
assumption.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Didn't you ever have a relationship with someone that wasn't going
|
|||
|
>well...but you didn't want to lose them?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, but I don't see your point. I still love those people. I do not
|
|||
|
"leave" a relationship. The nature of the relationship may change, but
|
|||
|
that does not mean I no longer love that person or am no longer "in love
|
|||
|
with" that person or whatever catch phrase you want to use. It sounds to
|
|||
|
me a whole lot like you are using the word "love" to mean "affection"
|
|||
|
and the phrase "in love with" to be "involved with a monogamous
|
|||
|
sexual relationship with," and if that is the case I still say the
|
|||
|
distinction between the two is Manifest Bullshit. You can still be "in
|
|||
|
love with" someone you're not sleeping with, you can be "in love with"
|
|||
|
more than one person at a time, and you can be "in love with" someone
|
|||
|
you aren't even living with. I can make these statements with absolute
|
|||
|
certainty; I know them for a /fact./
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:13:39
|
|||
|
Message Number 12580
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Would his name happen to be Turtle?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Bite your tongue HARD! You are unlikely to find a person who is LESS
|
|||
|
offended by bi-sexual women than Turtle. I think the person I refer
|
|||
|
to will make himself known shortly, though.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:17:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12581
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Speaking of the next RufusCon, I've been giving some thought lately
|
|||
|
toward holding another furry party in the not-too-distant future.
|
|||
|
(Not as big as the last RufusCon, I hope; forty people in this apartment
|
|||
|
gets kind of crowded after a while.) Anyone got any ideas about
|
|||
|
acceptable times and whatnot? I'm thinking about a month down the road,
|
|||
|
on a weekend...possibly on March 23, as it's my birthday and I can
|
|||
|
massacre a number of birds with one stone that way. 'Twill also mean
|
|||
|
the Tampa contingent (Pablo, Dirty Wrat, and Bart Fox) will be likely
|
|||
|
to attend as well.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:20:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12582
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Thank you Turtle for that analytical assessment. Predictable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Now what the hell was that all about? Oooooh...you wouldn't be thinking
|
|||
|
I was obliquely referring to you, were you? Stop being so paranoid; that
|
|||
|
isn't what I ment.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give God agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:21:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12583
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Actually, some of the things you find in religion (stripped of their
|
|||
|
>Godliness) are pretty good guidelines for life.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What, pray tell, might those things be? I have my own views (a guideline
|
|||
|
I respect a whole lot comes from Wicca, "As it harms none, do as thou
|
|||
|
wilt), but I'd be interested to see what you would call a "good
|
|||
|
guideline" that comes out of religion.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:23:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12584
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Irrlelvant. We are fighting to restore a government, irregardless [sic]
|
|||
|
>of what that government is like. Dictatorship is the *proper* govern-
|
|||
|
>ment for that country, ...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Come again??? What happened to "fighting for liberty" and your supposed
|
|||
|
respect for freedom and human rights you were talking about? You sayin'
|
|||
|
people only got rights if they live in the right country and that it's
|
|||
|
"proper" for people to be tortured and murdered by their government
|
|||
|
as long as it's the "proper" government? Pardon me while I go throw
|
|||
|
up. You need a crash course in what the American Revolution was all
|
|||
|
about.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:27:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12585
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>NO WAY!!
|
|||
|
>Chortle...chuckle...thanks for the laugh...heheh.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Um...thanks for the vote of confidence, I think.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Fav Shows
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 14:28:31
|
|||
|
Message Number 12586
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The hippie episode is called "The Way to Eden." The Enterprise picks up
|
|||
|
a band of hippies who are searching for Eden; these hippies play an
|
|||
|
impromptu concert in the ship (with Spock on some weird triangular
|
|||
|
stringed instrument) and then suddenly decide that Eden is located in
|
|||
|
the Romulan Neutral Zone, hijack the ship by means of a device which
|
|||
|
produces a nasty, obnoxious sound that renders the crew inert, and
|
|||
|
head off for parts unknown. They steal a shuttlecraft, land on a planet,
|
|||
|
discover that all the vegetation in the lush garden they have discovered
|
|||
|
is toxic, and are majorly bummed out, dude.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: RUFUS
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 15:51:23
|
|||
|
Message Number 12587
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>No. Now they want to know every possible use for two washers and
|
|||
|
>six feet of string.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What kind of washers? The little ones you use on bolts, the kind you
|
|||
|
stick your dirty shirts in so they come out clean, or the female type
|
|||
|
standing by the river beating a shirt with some large object in an
|
|||
|
attempt to get it clean (often found in late night barbarian movies)?
|
|||
|
If it's the last one mentioned... :)
|
|||
|
[Your a bad influence on me...]
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: RUFUS
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 15:56:00
|
|||
|
Message Number 12588
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A month down the road sounds good to me? What about t-shirts? Has
|
|||
|
New College aqquired the equipment for making screens and shirts yet?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Oh, Please!
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:07:45
|
|||
|
Message Number 12589
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> I might send it if ya ask nice.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Oh, please, please. (batting eyelashing).
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Rare form
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:09:37
|
|||
|
Message Number 12590
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> I love outspoken people.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
It's easy to be outspoken when you are basically anonomous (sp?).
|
|||
|
But I think talking (typing) on the BBS about your opinions DO make
|
|||
|
you more outspoken in public. (I will NEVER, however, carry a soap box
|
|||
|
around with me.)
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Rock & Roll daz
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:12:01
|
|||
|
Message Number 12591
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I used to sing in a band called "Concept". They are no longer in
|
|||
|
existance. Some of the guys are with "Savanah" and "Voyage", and still
|
|||
|
others are playing with themselves....er, I mean, well, you know what
|
|||
|
I mean!!!!
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:16:21
|
|||
|
Message Number 12592
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Your are against homosexuality as a life style for yourself, that's
|
|||
|
fine. But you can't stop nor should you want to interfere with what
|
|||
|
someone else chooses to do. About the "dykes", I know a few Lesbian
|
|||
|
women. They are, with one execption, bitter towards men but in their
|
|||
|
very behavior, they are men. The one exception is a very sexy, attractiv
|
|||
|
woman......, I believe she is bi-sexual but I am not sure. She dates
|
|||
|
men occasionally but she prefers women as lovers. She is very out-
|
|||
|
spoken about it.
|
|||
|
I agree that women do not find 2 men "doing the nasty" arousing.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:21:19
|
|||
|
Message Number 12593
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
breakfast/lunch get together.....Rufuscom.
|
|||
|
Details please! I would like to go.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:24:59
|
|||
|
Message Number 12594
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> Beat me, hurt me.
|
|||
|
TS>Make me write bad checks
|
|||
|
She might get out her nightstick, and hurt me real, real bad, on the
|
|||
|
roadside....... SHE GOT ME UNDER PRESSURE (guitar rif)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
Subject: *********
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:53:18
|
|||
|
Message Number 12595
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
> I still haven't any idea... can ya give me another clue?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ok: how about this for a clue. The word looks something like this:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
CCCVCCCCC, where 'C' is a consonant, and 'V' is a vowel.
|
|||
|
The vowel is 'e', and the last letter is 's'.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Second new clue: the first letter is 's.'
|
|||
|
Third new clue: I've used the word in a message to you, recently.
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 17:58:31
|
|||
|
Message Number 12596
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S> Men don't think "Lesbian" when they think of two women together.
|
|||
|
S> They think "Hey, ladies, room for one more???" Like it's all some
|
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|
S> kind of warm up to "the real thing".
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Bingo. Most "macho" men can't imagine why any woman wouldn't want to
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|||
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sleep with them. (Dripping with sarcasm)
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From: DRAGONFLY
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To: TURTLE
|
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Subject: Give Peace agin
|
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 18:04:18
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Message Number 12597
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|
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But... but that would go against U.S. law! (completely fake shock)
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|
|
|||
|
One of the better analyses I've seen about the war says that we're
|
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|
not in Iraq, really, for either Kuwait or oil. The fact is: the U.S.
|
|||
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has been losing its "edge" over the rest of the world economically,
|
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|
and the only way we have of keeping control is through our military.
|
|||
|
(Which is still the largest in the world.)
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/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
|
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|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
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Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 18:23:18
|
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|
Message Number 12598
|
|||
|
|
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Ding.
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|
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>I never could grok the distinction a lot of people see between
|
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>relationships (ie. close friendships) and Relationships; to me they
|
|||
|
>seem to be on a continuum, but a lot of people I've talked to seem
|
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>to see them as qualitatively different.
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|
|
|||
|
the only distinctions ('flavors') I've ever made in my relationships
|
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was how close, physically, I've wanted to come to that woman, and how
|
|||
|
closely I felt I could come to her (or, for that sake, him) mentally.
|
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|
I've known many women who I've been very close to, mentally and emot-
|
|||
|
ionally, but had no sexual interest in. I've also known many women who
|
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|
I was extremely attracted to, but thought their brains were tapioca.
|
|||
|
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Lupine people
|
|||
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 18:28:25
|
|||
|
Message Number 12599
|
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|
|
|||
|
T> I've known /real/ scary women... Wolf isn't scary.
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|
|
|||
|
Scary as in deadly? Not really.
|
|||
|
Scary as in a personality taken to extremes? Yes... In many ways, I
|
|||
|
/like/ Wolf, and appreciate her very physical nature, and her strong
|
|||
|
opinions. Her extreme determination, and her, well... going to extremes
|
|||
|
in everything scares me.
|
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|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
|
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|
If you don't know who Wolf is, please ignore this message. If you do,
|
|||
|
please don't mention it to her.
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|
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|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 18:35:24
|
|||
|
Message Number 12600
|
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|
|
|||
|
>What do you predict for the 90's?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'd say it'll be a slower decade than the last two, with more people
|
|||
|
trying to settle down. Why? The Baby Boom is getting older, yet. They're
|
|||
|
slowing down, so the rest of the U.S. should, right?
|
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|
/Dragonfly/
|
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|
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|
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|
From: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 18:41:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12601
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Now, you've left me confused. Can I try to sum up your message #12542?
|
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|
|
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|
One 'feminine' woman + One 'feminine' woman = Twice the 'femininity.'
|
|||
|
One 'masculine' guy + One 'masculine' guy = No masculinity.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Do I have that straight? (Pardon my pun)
|
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|
/Dragonfly/
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|||
|
|
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: st
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:08:50
|
|||
|
Message Number 12602
|
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|
|
|||
|
SS>Mine is more vulcan sounding.
|
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|
.
|
|||
|
Touche! But remember, Saavik came from the hostile world of Hellgaurd
|
|||
|
is part Romulan.......
|
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|
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|
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|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:10:26
|
|||
|
Message Number 12603
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>U survived, and didn't resort to becoming plastic.
|
|||
|
You were lucky. So was I. My parents had a horrible relationship with
|
|||
|
each other, but my Mother was my "best friend". I also had and still
|
|||
|
do have good relationships with my sisters. I still say a child deprived
|
|||
|
of love, will be an adult who doesn't know how to love. Just because
|
|||
|
parents don't get along with each other, doesn't mean they don't get
|
|||
|
along with their children. But it does make it difficult to teach a
|
|||
|
child about love and respect, when you don't have either for your
|
|||
|
spouse.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: You can't tell
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:14:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12604
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
My son is doing fine now. It was rough going for a while. After the
|
|||
|
incident (for lack of a better word), he had counceling from Matt
|
|||
|
Donavon's family unit (I can't remember the name, but it's connected to
|
|||
|
HRS). They made video tapes of his sessions for the trial but the
|
|||
|
defence attorney tried to get the tapes ruled inadmissable. Months
|
|||
|
passed, and then my Son was subuenaed (sp? you know what I mean) for
|
|||
|
deposition. So that dragged the whole thing up in his mind again. Then
|
|||
|
months later as the trial drew close, the defence tried the trick with
|
|||
|
the video tape and wanted to call my son to the stand. I said "NO WAY".
|
|||
|
The asst. state's atty. Bob Lee (at the time) fought them tooth and
|
|||
|
nail. Luckily, we won that battle and the tape was ruled admissable
|
|||
|
evidence. The day of the trial (in fact it was during jury selection),
|
|||
|
the defence realized (by the responces of the prospective jurors) that
|
|||
|
they didn't have a snowballs chance in hell. He plea bargained and
|
|||
|
accepted 30 years on a lesser charge. If he had been convicted of
|
|||
|
Sexual Battery, the mandantory sentence is LIFE. Well, at least he's
|
|||
|
off the streets, eh??
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:22:59
|
|||
|
Message Number 12605
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>Where do you get this "we" shit? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Maybe he's pregnant.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TIBERIUS
|
|||
|
Subject: How not to
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:24:43
|
|||
|
Message Number 12606
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> I'll have to get back in the swing of body language....
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
Don't get "slapped" for staring......
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:26:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12607
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
KO> Without honesy and reality, people are just paper tigers in the wind
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
I like it!!! And I must agree. I was incorrect in saying that people
|
|||
|
from stable families, ect, grow up to be "real people". Maybe they
|
|||
|
have a better shot at it, but you are right in saying that people who
|
|||
|
have survived rough childhoods are usually stronger and more adapted
|
|||
|
to battle life's everyday trials. I sit corrected.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: fish
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:29:53
|
|||
|
Message Number 12608
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ok, I admit ignorance. I still don't know what you're talking about.
|
|||
|
The only kind of fish I know swim. Duh! What do you do with "these"
|
|||
|
fish, if I may ask?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:32:24
|
|||
|
Message Number 12609
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I can't take this being wrong stuff. When I
|
|||
|
say instinct, I'm talking about "gut" feelings. Intuition. How many
|
|||
|
times have you relied on that?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:35:03
|
|||
|
Message Number 12610
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
But the person from a traumatic childhood would have to learn their
|
|||
|
social skills from someone. Where would they start? Teachers? What if
|
|||
|
they were from the getto and had no substancial role models?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Land mines
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:37:48
|
|||
|
Message Number 12611
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You make a good point on the sexually transmitted diesize (sp?) issue.
|
|||
|
And I was orginally talking about intimate relationships and not one
|
|||
|
nighters. However, in your post about "jumping in", I thought you were
|
|||
|
referring to "picking up" people at bars and going from there.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Clubs
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:40:16
|
|||
|
Message Number 12612
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The 90's......, or a new age of war mongers......
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:41:55
|
|||
|
Message Number 12613
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I agree to a point. I am "in love" with my best friend, and I am "in
|
|||
|
love" with my husband. I could be "in love" with all my friends. But I
|
|||
|
wasn't discussing me. I was referring to what someone might mean when
|
|||
|
they made the statement, "I love you, but I am not "in love" with you."
|
|||
|
It's a cop out. It means that you want out of the sexual, monogomous
|
|||
|
relationship but you don't want to lose the friendship. Usually the
|
|||
|
person on the other end of the conversation is hurt and I think it's
|
|||
|
just a statement meant to soften the blow. At any rate, it doens't
|
|||
|
work.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Fav Shows
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:47:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12614
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
But Doc Sevrin (was that his name?) died with a smile on his lips,
|
|||
|
didn't he? I'm going to Eden....yeah, yeah.....
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:51:19
|
|||
|
Message Number 12615
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF> most macho men can't imagine why a woman wouldn't want to sleep
|
|||
|
with them
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
I know the type. "Oh, baby, I got something for you......" (Puffing
|
|||
|
out his chest and sly glances at his friends) Barf!!!!!! A guy told
|
|||
|
me one time he was a giant erection. I replied. "Yeah, you look like
|
|||
|
a big dick to me."
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: 90's
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:54:56
|
|||
|
Message Number 12616
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You think people are slowing down? I hope so, but from what I see, the
|
|||
|
y are going 90 miles an hour. I'm talking the 30 to 40 year olds.
|
|||
|
Scratching and clawing to buy that new Beamer. I'm a working parent, I
|
|||
|
don't know what slow is anymore. But maybe the youngers are slowing
|
|||
|
down..... again, I hope so.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 19:58:08
|
|||
|
Message Number 12617
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You forgot one.
|
|||
|
One "masculine" woman + one "masculine" woman = Puking man.
|
|||
|
If the two women look like Barbara Dare then it's a turn on. But what
|
|||
|
if it's Roseann Barr and Bett Midler. Ug!
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 21:54:35
|
|||
|
Message Number 12618
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> squashing Hussien would be that easy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Actually - it's my thought that killing Hussein was never a goal of our
|
|||
|
military planning. 1) it would make the jerk a martyr 2) They want to
|
|||
|
humble the man publicly so that it will discourage similar actions in
|
|||
|
the future. Also it would discredit his remarks and support of
|
|||
|
a free Palestein and defuse any aid from that quarter ever again.
|
|||
|
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Fine.
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 21:57:26
|
|||
|
Message Number 12619
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> I don't wanna offend anyone
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
WHOOOP WHOOP WHOOOP!!!!! THe Mainifest Bullshit alarm just detected
|
|||
|
a real whopper. C'mon Dave. Stick to your guns. You stated for the
|
|||
|
record that you were infallible. It is well known that you hate gays.
|
|||
|
Now... if you are infallible then there is no one to worry about
|
|||
|
insulting as you would be correct. If you really hate gays then you
|
|||
|
shouldn't worry about it anyway as you have already offended them and
|
|||
|
can hardly worsen the stance that you have already taken.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A skeptical JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:02:56
|
|||
|
Message Number 12620
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> We are fighting to restore a government, irreguardless of
|
|||
|
TS> what that government is like.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Oh... so we really wanted Castro in power and the free Republic of China
|
|||
|
(based in Taiwan) will get help from us to overthrow the communist
|
|||
|
bastards that chased them out. Right? You mean we didn't help the
|
|||
|
loyal Afghanistanis chase the Russians out of their country? C'mon
|
|||
|
Dave - we have a piss-poor record of being upholders of justice.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> and if that's the way they want to run it, that's thier
|
|||
|
TS> business. Or do you want to wish our way of running things on every
|
|||
|
TS> one else, too?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Good point - kind of makes you wonder whay we don't go the extra inch
|
|||
|
and mind our own business - wouldn't you say? One might also say that
|
|||
|
these people have been trading property via warfare since Abraham 4,000
|
|||
|
years ago and that to them it may be just doing business as usual.
|
|||
|
Again - is it OUR business to tell them how to behave?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:09:40
|
|||
|
Message Number 12621
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Er...yeah, I guess that he's ok.
|
|||
|
Heheheheh - you really are a warm hearted bastard too!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:11:07
|
|||
|
Message Number 12622
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Either that or we know something that you haven't found out yet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I guess that once the concrete sets - it really does tend to make
|
|||
|
change and acceptance of different ideas that much more difficult.
|
|||
|
Too bad the wrong stuff was molded on before the stuff cured.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:13:01
|
|||
|
Message Number 12623
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Make me write bad checks!
|
|||
|
Ok - (sotte voce) Dave! Psssst! Yeah you.... now listen vewy vewy
|
|||
|
carefully. You will awake in the morning. You will feel great.
|
|||
|
You will attribute it all to the wonderful warm glow you got from
|
|||
|
accepting the Way of the Aardvark and have a deep appreciation of the
|
|||
|
message that JonBoy gave you (even though the exact words slip away).
|
|||
|
So grateful in fact that you will pick up your checkbook, pick up a pen
|
|||
|
and donate $1,000 as a research grant to JonBoy and the
|
|||
|
Way of the Aardvark Foundation.
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:17:52
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Message Number 12624
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SS> But I survived, and didn't resort to becoming plastic.
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Well, against my better judgement (yes a real oxymoron!) here's a little
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blurb that is paraphrased from a workshop that one of profs organized
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in years gone by in dealing with dysfunctional families.
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Typical of children raised in a hostile environment is the feeling that
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they are merely a pawn in a game of who's right with each parent trying
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to get points by having more players on their side. The struggle for
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dominance is so intense that the children suffer in their sense of
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self-worth because they percieve that they have no worth outside of
|
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the power struggle framework. These people in turn become dysfunctional
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as they attempt to gain a feeling of worth by attaching themselves
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to someone that will dominate them as this is what they have been
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conditioned to associate as "love".
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Now I'm not trying to say anything about you personally because I don't
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know you. I do know that you have remarked on several failed relation-
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ships and this may or may not relate to those. A typical remark from
|
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a girl that backed out of a realtionship may be that you were "hanging"
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on her all the time. Enough of the Pop-Psychobabble - What I guess I
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would really like to say is that there are many workshops that are
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organized to help people that come from dysfunctional families and they
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can help you understand how to cope with your feelings about it and
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yourself. I would recommend that you investigate and it may turn out
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that you will benefit in ways you never imagined. Good luck bud.
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JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: Slammed
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:30:06
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Message Number 12625
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SS> I'm NOT a bigot. ... I believe that homosexuality is wrong I'm not
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SS> going to try to tell someone how to live, and kill them if they won'
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SS> go straight .
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Well, I admire what you are trying to say if you acknowledge that gay
|
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people are in fact PEOPLE and deserve to be treated as such. I don't
|
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really know what to make of the staement that you beleive it is "wrong"
|
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as that is usually associated with a moral judgement of sorts.
|
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The message that I replied to came across as strong as most I have
|
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seen from Dave and so I (maybe wrongly) assumed that you were in the
|
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same camp. Consistency counts for a lot when making a stand on
|
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what you believe.
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From: JONBOY
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To: KNIGHT OWL
|
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Subject: Plastic people
|
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:36:23
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Message Number 12626
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KO>
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KO> I come from an alcoholic familily...
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Then you are aware of course of an organization called "Adult Children
|
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of Alcoholics" which is a subchapter of AA? A very good organization.
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One of my friends in Utah attended regularly as he came from an
|
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alcoholic family and he was finally learning to love his parents instead
|
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of hating them. Incidently, he also was alcoholic and attended AA also.
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KO> Coming from a dysfunctional family can be a source of strength
|
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Coming from a dysfunctional family is a life-crippling event and should
|
|||
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be treated as such. You may not even be aware of all the mental
|
|||
|
damage that you have sustained.
|
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:) JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
|
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To: TURTLE
|
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|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
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Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:41:41
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Message Number 12627
|
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|
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T> every possible use for two washers and six feet of string.
|
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I got one! I got one! You drill a hole through the back of each washer
|
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|
pass the string through the holes a tie a knot inside tthe drums. Then
|
|||
|
you move them apart until the string is taut and guess what! If
|
|||
|
someone yells inside one washer - the string will carry the vibration
|
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|
to the other washer and if someone has their head inside, he'll be
|
|||
|
able to hear the other person yelling! Wow! Your own nifty Maytag
|
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|
Communicators! You really should practise makking the "ChrkChrkChrk"
|
|||
|
sound of a real Star Trek communicator for realism.
|
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|
A helpful JonBoy
|
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|
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From: JONBOY
|
|||
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To: TURTLE
|
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|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:48:39
|
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|
Message Number 12628
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>I can make these statements with absolute certainty; I know them for
|
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|
T> a /fact./
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not a valid sylogism and you know it. I agree with what you say tho..
|
|||
|
you did leave out a very important one that is responsible for an
|
|||
|
awful lot
|
|||
|
of hangups. It is possible to go to bed with someone without being in
|
|||
|
love with them. Recreational sex if you will. You realize of course
|
|||
|
that you are walking on really shaky ground in American culture. I
|
|||
|
don't know why, but so many people confuse the word "love" with anything
|
|||
|
but. My best friend gets so uncomfortable when I tell him that I love
|
|||
|
him and his wife and kids. He can accept the kids and his wife, but he
|
|||
|
has a real problem with himself. I can see it on his face. Lest this
|
|||
|
statement cause any misunderstandings (not that it /should/ matter), I
|
|||
|
am not either gay or bi - I'm as hetero as they come (or a die-hard
|
|||
|
breeder as my gay friend puts it). The word "love" has unfortunately
|
|||
|
become tangled with the concept of sexual relationships and most
|
|||
|
people don't know how to handle that on a social basis very well.
|
|||
|
The greeks had three different words to describe the varying degrees
|
|||
|
of the concept. I wish we had delineations along those lines.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Oh, Please!
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/23/91 22:59:33
|
|||
|
Message Number 12629
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> Oh, please, please. (batting eyelashing).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Such beahavior from a married woman - I'm scandalized! :)
|
|||
|
Lemme dig in my bag of trix...
|
|||
|
hmmm I couldn't find it real quick - sorry I'll look for it.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Fav Shows
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:14:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12630
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sorry your input from "The Way to Eden" doesn't help. May /there/ a
|
|||
|
episode I haven't seen. I've still photographs in the credits of other
|
|||
|
shows, perhaps that why I thought I've seen it.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: *********
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:20:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12631
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Forget it, I can't get it. I'm sure I be kicking myself for it, but I
|
|||
|
give. BTW, Turtle what was the word you came up with.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:22:18
|
|||
|
Message Number 12632
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I take it you consider yourself not to be "macho" or are you just
|
|||
|
"studly"? :)
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:25:02
|
|||
|
Message Number 12633
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF> The fact is: ths U.S. has been losing its "ege" over the rest of the
|
|||
|
world economically......
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Wrong, we have been spending millions of dollars on this war, which
|
|||
|
it not helping our economy. If riase our status as a "wealthy" country
|
|||
|
then, following your logic, we should stay out of the war, and let the
|
|||
|
other countries spent /their/ money on this war.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:36:20
|
|||
|
Message Number 12634
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> Barf...Yeah, you look like a big dick to me."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hehehehe...hhahahahahaha...breathe......
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
God that was funny, I'd to have been the asshole who said that to you.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:39:17
|
|||
|
Message Number 12635
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ummm...where do you know Barbara Dare from? (perverted smile)
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 02:51:21
|
|||
|
Message Number 12637
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That's see if I can proper ly clairfy my stance on homosexuality.
|
|||
|
I think homosexuality is wrong morally. But I believe homosexuals are
|
|||
|
also human none the less. Human's are prone to mistakes. The err is
|
|||
|
human.... I don't approve of discrimination as far as jobs and rights
|
|||
|
are concerned. At the same time, I don't approve of homos adopting,
|
|||
|
being able to marry. Again, because of my moral standards. But, agai,
|
|||
|
just as much human. I don't discriminate against them. Like I said,
|
|||
|
I have had gay friends and gay co-workers. As long as they respect me
|
|||
|
and my sexual preference I have not problem with them. One guy I
|
|||
|
worked with really pissed me off, he was always hitting on me. He was
|
|||
|
a fairly new employee and needed direction. I told him to go help
|
|||
|
some other employee because I would be done before him. So he needed
|
|||
|
to assist him so that the work would get done approximately at the same
|
|||
|
time. His response was' "yeah, and the next thing you're going to
|
|||
|
want me to do is, bend over and grab my ankles." Sick. sick. Sick.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:00:23
|
|||
|
Message Number 12638
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
KO> Coming from a dysfunctional family can be a source of stength.
|
|||
|
JB> Coming from a dysfunctional faily is a life-crippling event and
|
|||
|
shoukd treated as such.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, I think you're both right, to an extent. KO is correct in the
|
|||
|
sense that some, not all but some, people can become stronger people.
|
|||
|
But on the other hand, JB is also correct in saying that that kind of
|
|||
|
situation can also have some damaging affects on the children as well.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:10:58
|
|||
|
Message Number 12639
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>and where do you get this "we" shit? DO you have a mouse in
|
|||
|
SS>your pocket?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey, shut up. I was referring to me and other bigots (who hate fags).
|
|||
|
I wouldn't include you in with us anyway.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:13:45
|
|||
|
Message Number 12640
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>has no more redeeming merits than bigotry, selfishness, or any of the
|
|||
|
T>other petty little concerns that more appropriately belong with
|
|||
|
T>lizards...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Graaaak!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- A bigoted, sauran Specialist
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:17:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12641
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS>Thank you Turtle for that analytical assessment. Predictable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>Now what the hell was that all about?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just that they were discussing things from an emotional standpoint,
|
|||
|
you jumped in with a logical assessment...which was predictable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>Oooh...you wouldn't be thinking I was obliquely referrng to you, were
|
|||
|
T>you? Stop being so paranoid; that isn't what I meant.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Though I am not currently involved in any relationship with anyone,
|
|||
|
I'm certain that if I was, I would not be *that* paranoid.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Give God agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:19:54
|
|||
|
Message Number 12642
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>"as it harms none, do as thou wilt"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sound an awful lot like "Do unto others...". Which pretty much is
|
|||
|
what I meant. Take the 10 Commandments, for instance. Don't steal,
|
|||
|
don't bear false witness, don't kill, don't covet they neighbors wife,
|
|||
|
things like that are pretty good guidelines and fairly easy to live
|
|||
|
by....
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
After all, I don't remember the last time I killed someone anyway....
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:22:32
|
|||
|
Message Number 12643
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Forget it. You are not worth the effort of trying to convince anymore.
|
|||
|
You or John. You are wrong, that's simple enough. Trying to get you
|
|||
|
to understand it is like pulling teeth from a chicken...or trying to
|
|||
|
reason with a brick wall.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It doesn't matter anyway. In a few short months, we'll have re-instated
|
|||
|
the proper govnt anyway. Just drop it.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:24:27
|
|||
|
Message Number 12644
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS>Chuckle, snort guffaw!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T>Thanks for the vote of confidence, i think.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Welcome.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Rare form
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:26:35
|
|||
|
Message Number 12645
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>But I think talking on a BBs about your opinions DO make your more
|
|||
|
S>outspoken in public.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I will say anytime...I hate fags. And everyone knows it. But overall,
|
|||
|
I agree with that statement.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:28:32
|
|||
|
Message Number 12646
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>You are against homosexuality as a lifestyle for yourself, that's
|
|||
|
S>fine. But you can't stop nor should you want to interfere with
|
|||
|
S>what someone else chooses to do.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I can't stop it, that's for certain. And I don't want to interfere
|
|||
|
per se, actually, I don't want anything to do with thon's lifestyle.
|
|||
|
I simply am of the opinion that that particular person is sick, and
|
|||
|
needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth. Simple, yes?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:31:38
|
|||
|
Message Number 12647
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>...She got me under pressure (riff0
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ah, ZZ-TOPS! All of thier old stuff is excellent (riff!), dude! But
|
|||
|
their more recent stuff is not as good...I guess I'm just not turned
|
|||
|
on by blues.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:33:52
|
|||
|
Message Number 12648
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF>the US has been losing its "edge" over the rest of the world
|
|||
|
DF>economically, and the only way we have of keeping control is through
|
|||
|
DF>our military. (Which is still the largest in the world.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Wrong...on both counts. Unit for unit, piece for piece, the Russian
|
|||
|
military outnumbers ours. (Except in subs.) Whoever gave you those
|
|||
|
facts was hopelessly mistaken.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:37:14
|
|||
|
Message Number 12649
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF>Now you've got me confused. Can I try to sum up your msg?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF>One "Femme" + one "Femme" = Twice the "femme"
|
|||
|
DF>one "Masc" + one "Masc" = No masc?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DF> Do I have that straight?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not exactly...let me further clarify.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
One masculine *looking* guy + one masculine *looking* guy is not
|
|||
|
masculine at all. What the hell is masculine about a pair of jucks
|
|||
|
up each others chutes?
|
|||
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|
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One beautiful *looking* femme + one beautiful *looking& femme is
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or looks twice as nice. But two uglys with each other is twice as
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ugly...and repulsive to boot.
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Did I help your muddled mind at all?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: welcome
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:42:48
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Message Number 12650
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SS>Where do you get this "we" shit? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
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S> Maybe he's pregnant.
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Maybe someone made an assumption and made an ass out of himself. (But
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not out of me, I hadda set him straight.)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Give Peace agin
|
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:46:15
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Message Number 12651
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|
Oh, right, my point exactly.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
|
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Subject: Fine.
|
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:46:46
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Message Number 12652
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You better repair your MB alarm; apparently it is in dire need of
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maintainence. I never stated that I was infallible. And it is well
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known that I hate FAGGOTS. And if I were infallible, then there is
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|
or would be no one to insult, because I would be correct...but this
|
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is based on your ASSUMPTION that I think that I am infallible. But
|
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|
there are people out there who act like gays and are not....
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Though, what you say is true. If I say that someone acts gay and they
|
|||
|
are as "open minded" as you and Turtle, then they shouldn't be offended
|
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at being compared to someone who likes to stick his dick in "Outgoing
|
|||
|
Only" places.... Or to some cocksucker.
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|||
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Am I being offensive yet? Oh, so sorry.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:51:37
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Message Number 12653
|
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|
|
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|
Usesless. Simply useless. It's quite clear that you simply can't
|
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|
be convinced of the error of your way of thinking. I refer you to
|
|||
|
the message I wrote Turtle.
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Have a nice day.
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|
|
|||
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From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:52:39
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Message Number 12654
|
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|
|||
|
JB> Hehehe - you really are a warm hearted bastard too!
|
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|
|||
|
Oh, I have always had good things to say about you, John...no matter
|
|||
|
how misinformed you are or however many incorrect conclusions you draw.
|
|||
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I've always said, yeah, that JB...he's a real SOB.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
But SOB can stand for Swell ol' Boy, too.
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|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:54:34
|
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|
Message Number 12655
|
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|
|
|||
|
TS> Either that or we know something that you haven't found out yet.
|
|||
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|
|||
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JB>...once the concrete sets -...[blah, blah]. Too bad the wrong stuff
|
|||
|
JB>was molded on before the stuff cured.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Save your sympathy for yourself, JB. I should be the one sympathising
|
|||
|
for your misguided person.
|
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From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 03:57:06
|
|||
|
Message Number 12656
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
No, no...you don't get it! It's part of an expression...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hurt me, beat me, make me write bad chekcs!
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|
|
|||
|
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Homos in the WP
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 04:02:10
|
|||
|
Message Number 12657
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>"the next thing you're gont to want me to do is to bend over and
|
|||
|
SS>grab my ankles. " SIck, sick, sick.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I couldn't have said it better than that. Except I might have added
|
|||
|
how I proceded to grab the nearest single weapon and beat the man
|
|||
|
senseless. (Whatever came to hand.) I swear to God if it were in
|
|||
|
my power I would have. I swear to GOD.
|
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Workshops
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:34:07
|
|||
|
Message Number 12658
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Good post. (about the workshops for children from dysfunctional families
|
|||
|
Many people don't realize how affected they were by their family
|
|||
|
problems until they start talking about it. Posting on this BBS is good
|
|||
|
therapy, too.
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:37:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12659
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JB> (using Maytag communicator) You really should practise making the
|
|||
|
"ChrkChrkChrk" sound of a real Star Trek Communicator....
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
It would bring a whole new meaning to "Beam me up, Scotty."
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:40:07
|
|||
|
Message Number 12660
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What three words did the Greeks have to describe the different
|
|||
|
variations of love. -----A Curious Saavik
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Scandalized
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:41:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12661
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey, JB. I'm married, I'm not dead. I still know how to bat my eyelashes
|
|||
|
It's a skill we women NEVER forget.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: The way to Eden
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:43:07
|
|||
|
Message Number 12662
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You must have seen it......, remember, one of the women in the "hippie"
|
|||
|
group was an old flame of Chekov's? The "hippie" group was running
|
|||
|
around the Enterprise trying to "corrupt" the crew into following them.
|
|||
|
It was one of the earlier T.V. shows that addressed "Cults"..... There
|
|||
|
have been many since but not ST. Dr. Sevrin was the "hippie" leader.
|
|||
|
A brilliant but insane man. (evil genius). Sevrin had a deadly
|
|||
|
diseise that threatened anyone who wasn't immune to it. Spock took
|
|||
|
over the search for Eden. The last scene of the episode showed Dr.
|
|||
|
Sevrin hanging dead in a tree after taking a bite of a toxic fruit.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:51:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12663
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It didn't phase him a bit. He just smiled and started advertising free
|
|||
|
pap smears to all the women at the party. You just can't insult some
|
|||
|
people........
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:52:39
|
|||
|
Message Number 12664
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS>Where do you know Barbara Dare from? (perverted smile)
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
No comment..... (batting eyelashes again)
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 08:54:18
|
|||
|
Message Number 12665
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In reference to the gay employee..... there are extremists everywhere.
|
|||
|
Just as their are "flaming" gays, their are women who constantly make
|
|||
|
suggestive remarks..., It doens't mean that they actually MEAN them.
|
|||
|
I worked with a guy that kept hitting on me and I know for a fact that
|
|||
|
if I had taken him seriously, he would have run for the hills.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Amen
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 09:00:03
|
|||
|
Message Number 12666
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> Simple, yes?
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
OH, yes. Very simple......
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 09:00:52
|
|||
|
Message Number 12667
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't prefer ZZ tops new stuff either. I really like the older tunes
|
|||
|
like Tush, Heard it on the..., you know what I mean??? I also am
|
|||
|
astonished that the Doobie Brothers managed to sell that last album.
|
|||
|
Talk about ripping on old songs by putting new lyrics....., Arg.
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Rock & Roll daz
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 09:49:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12668
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
S>... and still others are playing with themselves...er, I mean, well,
|
|||
|
you know what I mean!!!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I got a good laugh outta that!
|
|||
|
I beleive the word that escaped you was 'solo'.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SEE YA!
|
|||
|
Knight Owl
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
|||
|
Subject: Rock & Roll daz
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 12:43:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12669
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yeah, absolutely, solo was what I meant. They are playing and singing to
|
|||
|
the walls...... Ah, they'll be back in bands before long.., it gets in
|
|||
|
your blood. "It's like bad medicine."
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: RUFUS
|
|||
|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:06:53
|
|||
|
Message Number 12670
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>What kind of washers?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The kind you stick a golf ball in and move the handle thing up and down,
|
|||
|
of course. What else?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>[Your a bad influence on me...]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't hang out with the wrong kind of people, I AM the wrong kind of
|
|||
|
people! :)
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: RUFUS
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:08:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12671
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>A month down the road sounds good to me?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Okay, I'll plan it then? Assuming it's cool with everyone else?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Has New College aqquired the equipment for making screens and shirts
|
|||
|
>yet?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't know. It's possible that Nick can do it, though...I should look
|
|||
|
into it. *Sigh*
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: curious
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:12:22
|
|||
|
Message Number 12672
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Details please!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Suncoast City Joint Indoor Monthly Picnick occurrs about once a
|
|||
|
month, usually at ten AM, in some relatively obscure and inexpensive
|
|||
|
restaraunt (lately Chef Paul's has been a favorite, but they've
|
|||
|
also taken place in the hospital cafeteria, at the now-defunct Le
|
|||
|
Croissant, and other bizzare places). RufusCon is a very large annual
|
|||
|
convention in honor of our very own Rufus that takes place in my
|
|||
|
apartment. The last RufusCon (RufusCon '90) attracted more than
|
|||
|
forty people, and a live band...I kid you not.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:15:44
|
|||
|
Message Number 12673
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>...the only way we have of keeping control is through our military.
|
|||
|
>(Which is still the largest in the world.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Begging your pardon, but our military is NOT the largest in the world
|
|||
|
and isn't even close. It is the best-trained, best-equipped military
|
|||
|
force in the world, and it's one of the very few left that's still all-
|
|||
|
volunteer, but it is far from the largest. China and the Soviet Union
|
|||
|
both have about /twice as many/ active military personnel...
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: DRAGONFLY
|
|||
|
Subject: Lupine people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:18:30
|
|||
|
Message Number 12674
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>If you don't know who Wolf is, please ignore this message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Get serious. I'm very familiar with the lady in question. Yes, she gets
|
|||
|
carried away with just about everything she does, but I don't find that
|
|||
|
"scary" at all...simply mildly annoying.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: fish
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:21:32
|
|||
|
Message Number 12675
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Post-It fish also swim, but if they don't swim in pairs (stuck
|
|||
|
together) they tend to get stuck to other things, like rocks and
|
|||
|
boats and other fish. At least they peel off easily, though.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:22:34
|
|||
|
Message Number 12676
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>When I say instinct, I'm talking about "gut" feelings. Intuition.
|
|||
|
>How many times have you relied on that?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I always /listen to/ my gut feelings, but I try not to /rely/ on them
|
|||
|
at all.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:23:43
|
|||
|
Message Number 12677
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
People can find role models anywhere--friends, teachers, etc, etc.
|
|||
|
You learn by doing, and that goes with social skills as much as with
|
|||
|
anything else. It's more difficult if your family is an unhappy one,
|
|||
|
but it isn't impossible.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Wax paper
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:25:38
|
|||
|
Message Number 12678
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It ["I love you, but I'm not 'in love' with you] is a cop out.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ding.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>It means you want out of the sexual, monogamous relationship but you
|
|||
|
>don't want to lose the friendship.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...therefore implying that the statement "I love you" means "I am
|
|||
|
emotionally intimate with you" and "I am in love with you" means "I'm
|
|||
|
sexually attracted to you." You wouldn't think it'd be that easy to
|
|||
|
confuse love and lust.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:31:18
|
|||
|
Message Number 12679
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>...donate $1,000 as a research grant to JonBoy and the Way of the
|
|||
|
>Aardvark Foundation.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey! The Way of the Aardvark, as all /true/ disciples know, is the
|
|||
|
way to spiritual enlightenment, not financial gain! You shall be
|
|||
|
condemned to a world without Mountain Dew if you continue this false
|
|||
|
teaching, you know...
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: What does it?
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:34:36
|
|||
|
Message Number 12680
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>Wow! Your own nifty Maytag Communicators!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, I must admit that was one I didn't think of...what are all the
|
|||
|
rest?
|
|||
|
===========
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: TURTLE
|
|||
|
To: JONBOY
|
|||
|
Subject: Helicopters
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:35:38
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Message Number 12681
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>Not a valid syllogism and you know it.
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It wasn't a syllogism at all. I was not trying to imply that it's true
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because I know it to be so; I know it's true because I have seen it
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firsthand, on several occasions.
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>...love has become entangled with the concept of sexual relations and
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>most people don't know how to handle that on a social basis very well.
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Ding. Same goes for physical affection--most people assume any
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affectionate physical contact between a man and a woman is inherently
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sexual in nature. Silliest damn idea I ever heard of.
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From: TURTLE
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: *********
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:38:29
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Message Number 12682
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>BTW Turtle, what was the word you came up with.
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"Strengths." Adjective form "strong"; spelled completely differently.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: "Slapped"
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:43:10
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Message Number 12683
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>Just that they were discussing things from an emotional standpoint,
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>you jumped in with a logical assessment...which was predictable.
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Naturally I'm the sort of person with a computer for a brain who makes
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Mr. Spock look downright warm and friendly, huh? Hardly--I was just
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pointing out that if you base your relationships strictly on emotional
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reactions and never bother to think about what you're doing, you become
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a statistic (of the "three quarters of all couples who married in the
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eighties will end up divorced" variety [Omni, March 1991]).
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Give God agin
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 13:46:24
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Message Number 12684
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>Sounds an awful lot like "Do unto others..."
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No, the Wiccan idea is much more sophisticated than the Golden Rule.
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The Golden Rule applies ONLY to the way you interact with other people;
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for example, if you are burying toxic waste outside some town somewhere,
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it can be argued that you aren't doing anything to anyone else (at least
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not directly), where the Wiccan idea would very clearly consider this
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behavior immoral. Ditto for cutting down rainforests. The Wiccan ideal
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is both broader and better able to guide interpersonal interactions.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: curious
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 16:15:40
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Message Number 12685
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Will Rufuscon 90 be by invitation only? Will this auspicious occasion
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be posted??? A live band beats a dead band, you know......
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: fish
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 16:17:37
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Message Number 12686
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Post it fish sound flat as a flounder to me. I prefer bass. But they
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get stuck on things too. Weeds, underwater trees, and of course, our
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friends, the alligator.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: "Slapped"
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 16:18:53
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Message Number 12687
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It is wise not to rely on "gut feeling" alone. But have you found that
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as you grow older, your "gut feelings" grow wiser?
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 16:20:09
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Message Number 12688
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True, there are role models everywhere but they are not always good ones
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People from love deprived childhoods are apt to choose the wrong role
|
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models. (I may regret saying that). It just seems to me, that many of
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the people trying to influence the youth of today, are not that great
|
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of role models....
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
|
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Subject: Wax paper
|
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Date & Time: 02/24/91 16:22:08
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Message Number 12689
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T> You wouldn't think it'd be that easy to confuse love and lust
|
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(speaking of plastic people and I love you I am not in love with you)
|
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.
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Ding...back at ya.
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I hate using this term again and again, but "plastic people" are usually
|
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self centered. Love is great, but it can get pretty boring compared to
|
|||
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the "newness" of infactuation. I think thats why certain individuals
|
|||
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might coin that phrase "I love you but....". Love is a bond that grows
|
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with time and doesn't fade because somebody "better" comes along. Lust
|
|||
|
is a flash in the pan, once it's satisfied and everyday reality seeps
|
|||
|
in, it's too cold to hang around.
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From: JONBOY
|
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To: SCOTT STEEL
|
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|
Subject: Give Peace agin
|
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|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 20:53:27
|
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Message Number 12691
|
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|
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SS> Wrong, we have been spending millions of dollars on this war, which
|
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SS> it not helping our economy.
|
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|
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|
Actually - a major war should be very good for the economy as it
|
|||
|
stimulates R&D and gets rid of the weapons stockpile which will need
|
|||
|
to be replentished and also the major surge in services purchased by
|
|||
|
the govt in support of the war effort. sad to say war makes money.
|
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|
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From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Slammed
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 20:56:57
|
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|
Message Number 12692
|
|||
|
|
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|
SS> His response was' "yeah, and the next thing you're going to
|
|||
|
SS> want me to do is, bend over and grab my ankles." Sick. sick. Sick.
|
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|
|
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|
Actually - the analogy of "getting bent over" is quite common in the
|
|||
|
workplace with the corresponding "getting the shaft", "grease it up
|
|||
|
before you go in" etc etc. Mayhaps you misunderstood. I have only had
|
|||
|
one gay "hit" on me and it was only because he felt comfortable enough
|
|||
|
with me to know that I would not be offended.
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|
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|
|
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|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:00:46
|
|||
|
Message Number 12693
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SS> some, not all but some, people can become stronger people.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Is that strength merely a hard shell to keep the world out? The word
|
|||
|
strength carries a lot of connotations and unfortunately in our
|
|||
|
society the male is expected to be the "strong silent type". I would
|
|||
|
that men in this country could learn to hug as a good start. Americans
|
|||
|
are considered to be a very cold impersonal people by the erst of the
|
|||
|
world. American men have a personal space of about 18" for friends
|
|||
|
and about 25" to 36" for strangers. Europeans reduce that amount by
|
|||
|
half for interpersonal communication and Arabs get right in each others
|
|||
|
face. They say that they need to "share breath" as a sign of friend-
|
|||
|
liness. Arab men also hold hands with their friends which has caused
|
|||
|
more than one misunderstanding with Americans. Heck with it. My
|
|||
|
personal campaign is to hug anyone that is dear to me and f*ck anyone
|
|||
|
that feels it isn't manly.
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: "Slapped"
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:08:16
|
|||
|
Message Number 12694
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> TS> Graaaak! - A bigoted, sauran Specialist
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I love it Dave! Y'know I actually have a book dealing with
|
|||
|
interpersonal relationships on the job called "Dinosaur Brains" and
|
|||
|
the authors premise is that most people problems are in fact caused
|
|||
|
by our remnant of our dinosaur brain taking control before the cortex
|
|||
|
can get ahold of it. He refers to it as Lizard Logic and says that
|
|||
|
all things can be expressed as variations of these ancient drives:
|
|||
|
Get it Now - (impatience)
|
|||
|
Fight, Flight or Fright
|
|||
|
Pecking Order (it's lonely at the top)
|
|||
|
The Captain Kirk Management Style (the actual chapter heading!)
|
|||
|
Mating Urges
|
|||
|
etc etc.
|
|||
|
Best book I ever bought on the subject and it is actually fun to read
|
|||
|
and he offers very good realistic coping strategies.
|
|||
|
BOOK: Dinosaur Brains
|
|||
|
(or how to deal with/Those/ impossible people at work)
|
|||
|
Albert J. Bernstein John Wiley publications
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
|||
|
Subject: welcome
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:20:59
|
|||
|
Message Number 12695
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TS> I should be the one sympathising for your misguided person.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ok - you have my permission. I will leave my thoughts clear and wait
|
|||
|
for that warm wave of sympathy to come rolling in and wash me in your
|
|||
|
infinite compassion and understanding.
|
|||
|
C'mon Dave - quit being so damned snotty. You used to be able to
|
|||
|
disagree without getting personal and/or obnoxious. I have even
|
|||
|
defended your right to bigotry because it IS your right. Let's
|
|||
|
lay off the personal attacks. I'm sorry if the snide comments about
|
|||
|
concrete sting. I intend them to. I try very hard to make them
|
|||
|
slightly indirect and funny so that you can tell that I don't mean
|
|||
|
them in a hateful derogatory fashion. We can disagree and call each
|
|||
|
other jerks but still remain gentlemen - ok?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Workshops
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:29:25
|
|||
|
Message Number 12696
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA>Posting on this BBS is good therapy, too.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I dunno - I have visions of The Specialist taking a bayonet to his
|
|||
|
personal "Gay Bob" doll after he logs off here. It may cause a lot
|
|||
|
of stress for some people.
|
|||
|
:) JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: What doesn't it
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:31:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12697
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> It would bring a whole new meaning to "Beam me up, Scotty."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yeah - I got it! we change it from a string to a vacuum hose and
|
|||
|
rig a cuisinart inside the drum. You climb in, turn it on and after
|
|||
|
it has blended you the hose sucks you to the other end. Ummmm the
|
|||
|
technology on the other end needs work though...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A sick JonBoy
|
|||
|
(at least Wratt sez so)
|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Plastic people
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:33:23
|
|||
|
Message Number 12698
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> What three words did the Greeks have to describe the different
|
|||
|
SA> variations of love. -----A Curious Saavik
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Umm jeez put me on the spot! My memory is going with advanced age and
|
|||
|
the senility don't help...
|
|||
|
AGAPE' - transcendent love used to describe the type of love that God
|
|||
|
has for man or man for his fellow man.
|
|||
|
THELO' - love ascribed to things - like women love shoes, the fella
|
|||
|
that is in love with his new corvette etc.
|
|||
|
Phileo - Love between friends, family, acquaintences.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It is helpful anytime (if you read the Bible) you see the word "love"
|
|||
|
to look up in a good concordance exactly what type of love is being
|
|||
|
referred to.
|
|||
|
JonBoy
|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: SAAVIK
|
|||
|
Subject: Scandalized
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:40:08
|
|||
|
Message Number 12699
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SA> Hey, JB. I'm married, I'm not dead. I still know how to bat my
|
|||
|
SA> eyelashes It's a skill we women NEVER forget.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Lest you get out of practice hey? (heheh) anyway I did keep my promise
|
|||
|
and dug it out. Here is my (semi) famous Bill Bixie Cat. Please note
|
|||
|
that the leftmost reverse comma SHOULD be a back-slash but this BBS
|
|||
|
software thinks that's end of line. Her tis.
|
|||
|
+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
|
|||
|
_ /| ]
|
|||
|
` o O' ]
|
|||
|
=(_v_)= ]
|
|||
|
/ U ]
|
|||
|
Ack! Phht! ]
|
|||
|
--* JonBoy *-- ]
|
|||
|
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
|
|||
|
Ummm - please adjust your set - may have had tabs in it. The ears and
|
|||
|
oops excuse - the whiskers and cheeks need to be moved left one characte
|
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|
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|
|||
|
From: JONBOY
|
|||
|
To: TURTLE
|
|||
|
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
|||
|
Date & Time: 02/24/91 21:48:09
|
|||
|
Message Number 12700
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
T> condemned to a world without Mountain Dew if you continue this
|
|||
|
T>false teaching, you know...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tis written (wherever that tome may be) that there will be many false
|
|||
|
teachers of The One True Way. Errrr I'm trying to flush them out!
|
|||
|
Honest!
|
|||
|
An underground disciple JonBoy
|
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