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Public Message 
Message # 17 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Russ Magee
From    : Colin Mckay
Subject : Re: MM/1 repair
Date    : 95/03/21  19:46:00

Hi, Russ.

> Thanks, Colin! I appreciate the update.

Your message arrived just in time for another update!

Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:18:02 -36000
From: Kevin J Pease <kevin@mm1001.theporch.com>
To: Colin McKay <cmckay@northx.isis.org>

Colin it seems that the problem with the sick MM/1 is the I/O board. The 
CPU and accelerator work just fine. We are trying to determine what is 
wrong with it.

Kevin J Pease
WB0JZG Mt Juliet, TN.
mm1001.theporch.com

TTYL. Colin.


--- Maximus-CBCS v1.02
 * Origin: Micro80 Computer Club of Ottawa BBS (1:163/306)


Public Message 
Message # 18 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Steve Goldfein
From    : Colin Mckay
Subject : Re: MM/1 repair
Date    : 95/03/21  19:49:00

Hi, Steve.

> What is an MM/1 board?

An MM/1 is a brand of computer that runs OS-9/68000. Warren Hrach on this
echo can give you the full sales pitch, if you want more info.

TTYL. Colin.


--- Maximus-CBCS v1.02
 * Origin: Micro80 Computer Club of Ottawa BBS (1:163/306)


Public Message 
Message # 19 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : All
From    : Terry Finken-Bayes
Subject : OS and Port Engineering Position
Date    : 95/03/16  14:01:00

IA
From: terryfb@microware.com (Terry Finken-Bayes)
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:01:38 GMT

Operating Systems and Porting Engineering Opportunities

Microware Systems Corporation seeks qualified candidates for the
positions of Operating Systems Engineer and Ports Engineer in our
Research and Development organization located in Des Moines, Iowa.

Responsibilities for the Operating Systems Engineer will include but
are not limited to the development and enhancement of OS-9 and OS-9000
file managers, device drivers, board support packages, and real-time
operating system performance monitoring and analysis. The ideal
candidate will have a BS in Computer Science or equivalent combination
of education and experience, extensive experience with real-time OS
concepts, in-depth knowledge of OS-9 internals, OS-9 and OS-9000 file
manager or device driver experience, and experience in C and assembler
(680x0, 80386, RISC).

Responsibilities for the Ports Engineer include, but are not limited
to development and enhancement of OS-9 device drivers, boot code, and
board support packages, and real-time operating system performance
monitoring and analysis. The ideal candidate will have a BS in Computer
Science or equivalent combination of education and experience,
extensive experience with real-time OS concepts, knowledge of OS-9
internals, OS-9 file manager or device driver experience, and
experience in C and assembler (680x0, 80386, RISC).

From THE WALLSTREET to WIRED, Microware Systems Corporation is making
the headlines. From interactive television and cellular telephones to
traffic controllers and medical instrumentation, Microware real-time
system software is affecting every aspect of daily life. Microware's
OS-9 Real-Time Operating System has been deployed in millions of
high-performance devices around the world. And, Microware's DAVID has
become the standard for interactive television software. Microware is
defining the leading edge because we hire the best and brightest
people.  Microware is located in America's Heartland, Des Moines,
Iowa, where quality of life is paramount, where high school students
have the highest ACT scores in the country, where housing is
affordable, and where a drive to work takes just 10 minutes.

Now, Microware is looking for more of the best and brightest to help
us continue to define the leading edge. Microware offers a very
attractive compensation package, including a competitive salary, major
health care coverage, and a 401(k) plan. Plus, Microware offers a
stimulating, challenging, yet casual environment.

If you are a computer professional looking for an unusual challenge in
a city with a high quality of life and a low cost of living, send your
resume with salary history in writing (no e-mail applications
accepted) to:

Human Resources Administrator
Microware Systems Corporation
1900 NW 114th Street
Des Moines, IA 50325-7077

Microware Systems Corporation is an Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer.

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Public Message (Rec)
Message # 20 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Warren Hrach
From    : Charles Connolly
Subject : Re: OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/21  11:37:00

             On Friday, March 17th, 1995 - Warren Hrach wrote:
 
WH>             On Tuesday, March 14th, 1995 - Steve Goldfein wrote:
 SG> I had heard talk about this program for a while, and then found this
 SG> echo.  Is there anyone alive out there?  Anyone who uses this software
 SG> and this echo on the Atari ST?  What exactly is OS9 and what does it 
 SG> do, ect... cost?  Details!  I want details! ;)
 
Please Forward this message to Steve Goldfein.
 
 Atari ST OS-9 is available from:
          Cumana Ltd.
          Pines Trading Estate, Broad Street
          Guildford, Surrey, GU3 3BH
          Telephone (0483)503121
ask for   Yvonne Kavanaugh (Sales)
 
    Package contains OS9/68k V2.3 - Sculptor - DynaCalc - Stylograph
                                  - Basic    - uMACS    - C and
                                    Assembler, Debugger & Linker.
 
    This source is in the U.K. and costs 99 pounds.
 
    Finally If he gets Atari ST OS9 he should keep an ear to
    the ground for K-Windows as I have heared through 68'micros
    that It may be released soon.
 
.Charles.
 
--- RiBBS v2.10
 * Origin: Toronto Color Computer Club BBS (Ont)  (416) 757 8903 (1:250/404)


Public Message 
Message # 21 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Charles Connolly
From    : Warren Hrach
Subject : Re: OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/24 12:29:32

Charles,
     Thanks for posting that info on OS9 for the Atari ST.
Warren
 
--- RiBBS v2.11 (Beta) 
 * Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)


Public Message 
Message # 23 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Charles Connolly
From    : Steve Goldfein
Subject : Re: OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/23  08:47:00

CC>Please Forward this message to Steve Goldfein.
CC>
CC> Atari ST OS-9 is available from:
CC>          Cumana Ltd.
CC>          Pines Trading Estate, Broad Street
CC>          Guildford, Surrey, GU3 3BH
CC>          Telephone (0483)503121
CC>ask for   Yvonne Kavanaugh (Sales)
CC>
CC>    Package contains OS9/68k V2.3 - Sculptor - DynaCalc - Stylograph
CC>                                  - Basic    - uMACS    - C and
CC>                                    Assembler, Debugger & Linker.
CC>
CC>    This source is in the U.K. and costs 99 pounds.
CC>
CC>    Finally If he gets Atari ST OS9 he should keep an ear to
CC>    the ground for K-Windows as I have heared through 68'micros
CC>    that It may be released soon.
CC>
Ok, now, that kind of explains some things.  Like what comes with it and
all, btw...whats the cost in American dollars?  Is there a demo?  Will
it run existing programs written for Atari GEM/TOS?  Do I have to buy
all new programs to make use of this OS?  Do my hard drives have to be
reformatted?  :)  I am interested and curious, so....

Please enlighten me.

--- DBSMail V1.25j [A808B798]
 * Origin: Afterlife (916) 344-0625 Sacramento CA (1:203/6969.0)


Public Message 
Message # 24 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Colin Mckay
From    : Russ Magee
Subject : Re: MM/1 repair
Date    : 95/03/22  20:05:00

  My I/O board is the cause eh? Hmm, the plot thickens.
 
  You know, I totally forgot about this until today, but I don't ever remember
hearing a 'beep' out of the internal speaker on my machine, either. (Although
that's the main CPU board, not the I/O.)   
 ttyl,
 -Russ

--- Maximus/2 2.02
 * Origin: The MM/1 Keyboard [Calgary, AB 403-246-6943 HST/DS] (1:134/67)


Public Message 
Message # 25 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : All
From    : Warren Hrach
Subject : RiBBS_OSK
Date    : 95/03/27 13:01:26

       Calvin Dodge has done it again,  Now RiBBS_OSK can do the Fido
part between my CoCo Fido BBS and Calvins.  I also tested between my own
MM/1 and this bbs and the send/receive is working very well.  Still need
some polishing and minor bug fixes but all in all it is getting close to
a public release.  Should be ready for the Chicago Fest !
Warren Hrach, RiBBS/RiBBS_OSK beta sysop.
 
--- RiBBS v2.11 (Beta) 
 * Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)


Public Message 
Message # 84 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Charles Connolly
From    : Dennis Mott
Subject : Re: OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/28  16:32:00

           On Tuesday, March 21st, 1995 - Charles Connolly wrote:
 
CC>  Atari ST OS-9 is available from:
CC>           Cumana Ltd.
CC>           Pines Trading Estate, Broad Street
CC>           Guildford, Surrey, GU3 3BH
CC>           Telephone (0483)503121
CC> ask for   Yvonne Kavanaugh (Sales)
CC>     This source is in the U.K. and costs 99 pounds.
CC>     Finally If he gets Atari ST OS9 he should keep an ear to
CC>     the ground for K-Windows as I have heared through 68'micros
CC>     that It may be released soon.
 
 I wanted to post this message to thank you for this information.
 I was also going to ask how much, but when I read the bottom of your
message, I noticed it said source is in the U.K and costs 99 pounds.
I take this to mean that it has to be ordered from Britain/Europe
and it costs $99 English Pounds?  Any US distributors?
 
--- RiBBS v2.10
 * Origin: Data Warehouse, Spokane, WA     509-325-6787 (1:346/9)


Public Message 
Message # 86 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Steve Goldfein
From    : James Jones
Subject : Re: OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/31 03:50:13

OS-9 is a Unix-like multitasking operating system that is used a lot in
"real time" applications, e.g. robot submarines, CD-i players, ATMs,
airport luggage handling systems (*not* the one in Denver :-).  It
started out in life on the 6809, moved to the 68xxx family, and in a more 
portable version exists on the 80x86 (x >= 3) and the PowerPC.
 
Let's see...Microware sells (or sold; I'm not sure about current
availability) OS-9 for the Atari ST, and an English company called Cumana 
Ltd. sells (or sold) a port of OS-9 for the ST as well.
 
--- RiBBS v2.11 (Beta) 
 * Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)


Public Message 
Message # 212 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Steve Goldfein
From    : Charles Connolly
Subject : OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/28  11:25:00

I don't know the answer to most of your questions except that

  1. - The Price Is In Pounds Not U.S. Dollars so will varry with the
  exchange rate. But 99 Pounds was aprox.     is aproximaa couple of
  months ago, any Bank will be able to give you the exact rate.ely $160

  I don't think that  you can run ATARI TOS programs under OS-9/68K
  However If K-Windows gets ported to the ATARI you will be able to run MOST
  MM/1 compatable programs and be able to easly port most COCO Basic09
  programs that you have the code for. Most TEXT only applications will
  run unaltered.

  I do not have ATARI OSK however 2 people In the local computer club
  I am a member of do have it on there systems they will be able to tell
  you If you need to repartition your hard disk or not, return me a Message
  with your complete FIDO NET address and I will see If either Mike or
  Paul would like to give you more details.

  Also I am not sure If they have Cummen OSK or another one so ask,
  from what I have heared Cummen OSK is the best deal. But If money
  is no Object the MACINTOSH version of OSK will run allmost all
  standatd Mac Apps under it but it costs $1200 U.S.

  - Charles.

--- GEcho 1.11+/RA 2.02+
 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Toronto - (416)601-0085 - v.32bis (1:250/436)


Public Message (Rec)
Message # 213 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Warren Hrach
From    : Charles Connolly
Subject : OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/28  11:34:00

The Information came from an Article called Nine Flavors of OS-9 by F.G.
Swygert and was the cover story of the Nov. 1994 Issue of 68'micros
This article is 2 1/3 pages and covers. If anybody is interested in geting
the magazine contact dsrtfox@delphi.com or FARNA SYSTEMS / PO BOX 321 /
Warner Robbins G.A. / 31099-0321

.Charles.

--- GEcho 1.11+/RA 2.02+
 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Toronto - (416)601-0085 - v.32bis (1:250/436)


Public Message 
Message # 234 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Dennis Mott
From    : Charles Connolly
Subject : OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/03/31  09:14:00

DM> and it costs $99 English Pounds?
                 ^Error Not $ Pounds
    Most Banks will sell you Money Orders Denominated In Forign Currency
    99 Pounds will probably cost you 150 to 160 US $.

DM> Any US distributors?

    No I Don't Think So, Although I have heared that Black Hawk
    Enterprises will be distributing the K-Windows Package When
    (? if ?) it comes out.

DM> I take this to mean that it has to be ordered from
DM> Britain/Europe

    Yes.

    I Personally know 2 people who have the package so If you have
    any Indepth questions I will put you in touch with them.

-Charles.

--- GEcho 1.11+/RA 2.02+
 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Toronto - (416)601-0085 - v.32bis (1:250/436)


Public Message 
Message # 239 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Warren Harch
From    : John A Donaldson
Subject : Mushroom
Date    : 95/03/29  19:33:00

From the Mushroom site.
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From: IN%"stg@indy.net" 28-MAR-1995 03:38:03.65
To: IN%"warren@ocnbeach.jd.com"  "Warren Hrach"
CC: IN%"mushroom@indy.net"
Subj: RE: DEVELOPERS LIST

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From: stg@indy.net (Scott Griepentrog)
Subject: Re: DEVELOPERS LIST
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>On 12 Mar 95 16:09:57 EST, WW2150@ACSPR1.acs. wrote:
>>      As David Graham pointed out, this is supposed to be a "Private"
>> Developer's List.  A few days ago Warren Hrach posted to the CoCo
>> Listserv the address and subscribing format for all to view.
>> 
>>     We need to keep these sort of things from happening.
>> 
>>     Bill
>
>Bill,
>     This was originally true but I believe it was changed in order
>to let those interested persons to get the list so they would know
>that the MM/1 was not a vapor(hard)ware product.  With this in mind
>Scott G. posted the info on subscribing on the CoCoList.

I *never* posted the subscribe method anywhere but to mushroom.  Someone
else copied my message over there.

>     The use of a list for private comm can be done using E-Mail
>in UUCP and addressing to multiple parties in the 'To' and the
>'CC' fields.  In fact the RiBBS_OSK beta team has this set up
>now.

Yes, but some one still has to maintain the list.  The easiest way to do
this is with a listserv.  This list *IS* Private!  Only those who David
allows are added.  The "subscribe method" is simply a convenience - requests
are mailed directly to David.

>     After all David Graham has the final say on who gets added and
>if someone starts flames or uses bad language or becomes a pest the
>list keeper can delete his access.  Additionally what have you to hide !

There is nothing to hide.  However, it is not always a good idea (from a
sales point of view) to let your potential customers know what you are up to
until it's ready for sale.  The intent of this echo is as a PRIVATE area for
MM1 developers to help each other.  I.E. if you ain't a programmer, you're
not invited... at least, that's my understanding.  I think it has gotten a
little out of hand.  Messages posted here have traveled a little farther
than they should have.

>     As a beta sysop for RiBBS OS9 for over 8 years I participated
>in the forming of the Fido RIBBS echo. We never had any abuse of the
>echo except for one go around I had with a local OS9 user that
>insisted he post off-topic msgs on it. And that was when it started
>as a private echo.  Soon after that we made it public.
>     This my understanding of what the mushroom list is now for and
>opinions stated in this msg. are my own based on years of experiance.
>Warren
>

___-------------------------------------------------
Scott Griepentrog (e-mail/finger: stg@indy.net)
IndyNet Staff & Independant Consultant


  
___
 X ATP/OSK 1.40 X A MM/1 Proud Owner

--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: THE GOLDEN COCO other's COMPUTER (1:106/941)


Public Message 
Message # 400 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : Charles Connolly
From    : William Hamblen
Subject : OS9 for the Atari ST
Date    : 95/04/01  01:09:00

  Charles Connolly,
  In a message on 31 March, to Dennis Mott, wrote :

CC> DM> and it costs $99 English Pounds?
CC>                  ^Error Not $ Pounds
CC>     Most Banks will sell you Money Orders Denominated In Forign Currency
CC>     99 Pounds will probably cost you 150 to 160 US $.

By far the easiest way to order stuff from overseas is to use the right
credit card.  Ask the seller.
...
 * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Oh, pardon me, was that *your* culture? So sorry.


--- TSX-BBS (Multi-line 32-bit BBS)
 * Origin: The Nashville Exchange BBS 615-383-0727 (1:116/19)


Public Message 
Message # 450 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To      : All
From    : Terry Finken-Bayes
Subject : Network Engineer Positions, Micr
Date    : 95/03/20  16:00:00

From: terryfb@microware.com (Terry Finken-Bayes)
Date: 20 Mar 1995 22:00:05 GMT

Microware Systems Corporation seeks qualified candidates for the position of
Senior Software Engineer in our Research and Development department located
in Des Moines, IA.  This position reports to the Manager of Network Systems
group.  We are looking for a highly motivated self-starter who can join our
small, close knit group of engineers to produce and develop state-of-the art
network systems software.

Responsibilities will include, but are not limited to design and development
of network systems software for our real-time operating systems for
Motorola 680x0, Intel 80x86, Motorola/IBM PowerPC and other RISC processors.

Qualifications include a BS in Computer Science with at least two years of
network systems experience or a MS with strong emphasis on networking, 
excellent C language programming skills, and strong knowledge of the TCP/IP
protocol suite.  Experience writing device drivers and an understanding of
real-time operating systems would be a plus.

Microware's OS-9 Real-Time Operating System has been deployed in millions of
high performance devices around the world, from interactive television and
cellular telephones to traffic controllers and medical instrumentation.
Microware offers a very attractive compensation package, including a com-
petitive salary, major health care coverage, and a 401(k) plan.  In addition,
Microware offers a stimulating, challenging, yet casual environment.  If you
are computer professional looking for an unusual challenge, send your
resume with salary history in writing (no e-mail applications accepted) to:

Human Resources Administrator
Microware Systems Corporation
1900 NW 114th Street
Des Moines, IA  50325-7077

Microware Systems Corporation is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity
Employer

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