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#: 20812 S1/General Interest
    27-Feb-95  04:38:01
Sb: OS-9 PROGRAMMERS WANTED
Fm: Yvan Borcard 100140,675
To: Andreas Martschitsc 100045,3464

I am software specialist in OS-9 system.During the last 4 years our  R&D group
has developed many control softwares,communication protocols,OS-9 drivers for
real time application.By the way we are actually working with PEP Modular
Computers.
Ivan. Borcard.

#: 20827 S1/General Interest
    06-Mar-95  22:00:17
Sb: #20611-#DAT drive descriptor 
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: CHRISTOPH STUMMER 100067,1570 (X)

As far as I know, the DAT drives work with the OS-9 V3.0 viper descriptor.
We have used them at work.  You might check with Carl Kreider as we are
using his sbviper driver.

 - Mike -

Carl?  Have you seen this message?

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#: 20830 S1/General Interest
    08-Mar-95  07:22:51
Sb: #20827-DAT drive descriptor 
Fm: CHRISTOPH STUMMER 100067,1570
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

thank you
christoph

#: 20813 S1/General Interest
    28-Feb-95  15:47:07
Sb: #Os9
Fm: Gilbert C. Steve 76151,2353
To: ALL

Just curious... Is anything new happening with Os9? I was a die-hard user for
many many years, but business pushed me away, and into more mainstream
computing. I would love to hear from some of you regarding the changes. The
last time I used Os9 was ... hmm I guess about four years ago. I was running a
coco with a burke & burke Hard drive adapter and 70 megs of hard drives,
running level 2 Os9 with an enhanced shell ( I forget the name of the shell)

Thanks
Steve

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#: 20819 S1/General Interest
    03-Mar-95  19:15:35
Sb: #20813-Os9
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Gilbert C. Steve 76151,2353

 > Just curious... Is anything new happening with Os9? I was a die-hard user
 > for many many years, but business pushed me away, and into more
 > mainstream computing.
 > The last time I used Os9 was ... hmm I guess about four years
 > ago. I was running a coco
 > running level 2 Os9 with an enhanced shell ( I forget
 > the name of the shell)

I guess the name of the shell you refer to was "shell+".

I don't know if there have been too many earth-shattering developments since
your last involvement.. Possibly the discoveries about the Hitachi 6309, (you
may have heard about this).  If not, Motorola contracted with Hitachi to make a
CMOS clone of the 6809, supposedly with the stipulation that it be an EXACT
duplicate.  However, during development, they introduced some new registers (E
& F) were 8-bit, combined, they made the "W" register, and "D" and "W" combined
to make "Q", a 32-bit register.  Burke&Burke wrote some system patches for this
(called it "Powerboost"), and another group (Gale force) made their own
(NitrOS9).  I got Powerboost, and could tell a difference on some things -
"mdir" especially seems to come up nearly twice as fast.  Since then, Burke &
Burke has disappeared from the scene.

There has been several new software enhancements etc for the programs. Don't
know if they were available when you were around, but now we have some pretty
reliable ZModem functions, at least one good QWK mailreader for BBS usage.
InfoXpress (you might be familiar) is a really great automatic mail handling
program designed strictly for CIS and Delphi.

Many of us now have graduated to OSK.  I have gotten a Delmar system myself -
really don't use the coco too much anymore.  The MM/1 has been resurrected and
now is again in production.  David Graham is now the mfr. of the system, and it
appears that he is getting them out, apparently a little better than IMS, not
sure.


                         -- David Breeding --
       CompuServe : 72330,2051              Delphi :  DBREEDING
           ***  Sent via   InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02   ***

#: 20818 S1/General Interest
    02-Mar-95  18:42:45
Sb: #Yes, I'm still alive.
Fm: David L. Kaleita 72657,2775
To: All-Music Guide 72662,144

Howdy folks.

Yes, I am still alive, but am rarely on CompuServe these days.

If anyone wants to reach me, send me email through the CompuServe/Internet
gateway.

My internet address is "usfmc2fp@ibmmail.com".
Internet email will reach me directly at my desk at work (Ford Motor Company).
I check for internet email multiple times per day.

How's things in the OS-9 world? Does anyone know if Microware is planning a
port of OS-9 to the Power PC?

<Dave Kaleita>

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#: 20829 S1/General Interest
    06-Mar-95  23:34:18
Sb: #20818-Yes, I'm still alive.
Fm: David M. Horn 73260,242
To: David L. Kaleita 72657,2775

The PowerPC version of OS-9 is announced.  Release status is not firm from my
point of view.

David Horn

#: 20828 S3/Languages
    06-Mar-95  22:00:20
Sb: #20677-GNU C compiler
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: paul kouwenberg 100272,2534

I've just been catching up on the forum messages and ran across this thread!

Anyway, GCC 2.5.8 has been ported and also the C++ front end.  Yes, it will
output both the .stb and .dbg files for source debug.  You can get the latest
version from chestnut.cs.wisc.edu in /pub/OSK/GCC.

 - Mike -

#: 20815 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    01-Mar-95  20:18:39
Sb: #20807-Basic09 tid-bits
Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Sheesh! Thanks Larry, I'll look at your message more closely at home...

Rogelio

#: 20814 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    01-Mar-95  20:17:45
Sb: #20806-Basic09 tid-bits
Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

It was Bob! it was!

BIG GRIN -->  :-D

Rogelio Perea Nogales Sonora MEXICO

#: 20833 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Mar-95  16:35:59
Sb: #20421-I could use a favor
Fm: bas de jong 100573,2001
To: Daniel Cyran 73750,1020

Hey there,

I had a simular problem trying to get my home-build 68000 system running. You
could try to 'undelete' the directory-entries in the CMDS directory. (first
character is wiped out to zero). Just write a small program to read and write
the disk.... I use SCSI, so commands $08 and $0A do wonders (read resp. write).
All info read in byte, special articles (2) 5 years ago. Hope I helped a bit,
more info available if wanted.

Greetings, Bas

#: 20822 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-Mar-95  21:18:35
Sb: #20678-PC <--> OS/9 via TCP/IP?
Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
To: Ingo Pakleppa (ECS) 100041,102

Hi Ingo,

I have successfully connected a PC with an OS-9 System using TCP/IP-software
from Beame&Whiteside. It worked pretty well, I never ran into any major
problem. Beame&Whiteside offer DOS and Windows Software, it's pretty sleek...

Jost

#: 20809 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    26-Feb-95  22:25:45
Sb: CDL Basic demo uploaded
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: all

I have just uploaded the following files to the OS9/68000 data lib #12.

The file 'CBManual' is a straight text file of the mini manual for
the demo of CDL Basic, a true native code 68000 compiler for
OS9/68000. You don't need this if you download either of the archives as this
is included in both of them.

The file 'cbdemo.lzh' is the complete demo with the mini manual
compressed with:

 'LHa Vrs. 2.01 for OSK - Ported June 15, 1992 M.Haaland'

The file 'cbdemo.ar' is the complete demo with the mini manual
compressed with:

 'Ar V2.00 - archive file manager'

This is a complete working demo of CDL Basic Version 1.0 that is
only limited in the size of the program you can compile. Many
examples are included that will compile with the demo.

Enjoy

Frank Hogg - FHL

#: 20810 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    26-Feb-95  22:27:07
Sb: #CDL Basic demo
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: sysop (X)

Hi,

I just uploaded three files to data lib 12. Could you please make these
available.

Thanks

Frank

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#: 20811 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    27-Feb-95  04:09:34
Sb: #20810-CDL Basic demo
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)

Sure thing!

#: 20821 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-Mar-95  21:18:29
Sb: #OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
To: all

Is anybody here using the Motorola MVME162 board with OS9?

I have worked a lot with the board, using both OS9 version 2.4 and 3.0. I'd
like to share my experiences with others interested in the topic, and maybe
learn some new things...

Jost

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#: 20823 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-Mar-95  16:15:42
Sb: #20821-#OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611
To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)

Yes, I use MVME162 and 162LX, also 147 and 167. 162LX serial port descriptors
need to have upper two descriptors on a different vector than the lower two
descriptors, else a port will lock up during simultaneous interrupts.  Happened
all the time when doing 9600 baud input on say /term and /t2.

Also, note that the init module for V2.4 162 distribution has the patternize
memory bit enabled.  free of big chunks of memory may cost you missed
interrupts if patternize memory is enabled.

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#: 20825 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Mar-95  13:21:45
Sb: #20823-OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X)

I have a MVME 147S-1 and see with interest that you have used one for quite
awhile. A question: Have you ever managed to get the serial ports working using
hardware handshaking? I would like to use one for the serial ports for a
printer, but xon/off is out of the question. It would also make the use of a
highspeed modem a possibility.

#: 20824 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Mar-95  08:01:51
Sb: #20821-OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472
To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)

Hi Jost,
 >> I have worked a lot with the board, using both OS9 version 2.4 and 3.0. I'd
like to share my experiences with others interested in the topic, and maybe
learn some new things... <<
 I've worked for years with a MVME147-system and OS-9 versions 2.0 to 2.4. That
means I have a lot of experiences with OS-9 at any level.
 End of this week I'll get my new VME-System based on a MVME162. I think we'll
have to talk a lot in advance!

 Jochen

  -Joachim Terasa


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#: 20831 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Mar-95  16:26:57
Sb: #OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)

Hallo!

Vielen Dank fur die Message! Ich nehm mal einfach an, ich kann in Deutsch
schreiben...

Ich will mal ein bischen uber mich und meine Beziehung zum geliebten OS9-162
BSP erzahlen:

Ich lebe seit zwei Jahren in Ohio, USA, und seit anderthalb Jahren mache ich
jetzt schon mit dem MVME162 rum. Anfangs war es ganz schon schwierig, ich hatte
keinerlei Erfahrung mit OS9, aber mittlerweile hab ich die Sache gut im Griff.
Microware macht es einem nicht gerade einfach!

Meine Applikationen sind spezielle Regelkreise fur Walzwerke, mit vielen Timer-
und I/O-Interrupts, Ethernet-Communication, etc..

Ich hab mit OS9-Version 2.45 angefangen, bin dann auf 3.0 umgestiegen. Jetzt
benutz ich beide Versionen, weil es noch nicht viel Device Driver fur 3.0 gibt.
Eigentlich kein grosses Problem, aber wenn man ein serial interface board
benutzen will, ist ein fertiger Treiber ziemlich hilfreich...

Ich benutze die Extended Version vom BSP, und hab sowohl Self-Hosted
Development als auch PCbridge (beides Ultra-C) zur Verfugung. FasTrack hab ich
leider noch nicht...

Als I/O benutze ich GreenSpring IP-Module, und zwar IP-16ADC, IP-DAC,
IP-Quadrature und IP-Dual PI/T.

Ich habe ein paar Utilities geschrieben, mit denen man das Flash-Eprom fur OS9
zuganglich machen kann. Das OS9-162 BSP unterstutzt das Flash-Eprom nur
schwach, und ich wollte es unbedingt benutzen, weil mir die 512
batteriegepufferten Static Ram zu wenig waren.

Ich hab auch ein bischen mit G-Windows rumgespielt, und mit einer Software
namens ControlCalc. Beides hat mir aber am Ende nicht so richtig zugesagt. C
ist
doch das beste. Und fur toll aussehende Benutzerschnittstellen sind PCs mit
Windows besser geeignet, meiner Meinung nach jedenfalls.

Soviel zu mir...

Mich wurd mal interessieren, wie Du das Bord einzusetzen gedenkst?

Jost


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#: 20832 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Mar-95  16:41:36
Sb: #20831-OS9 on the MVME162
Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472
To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)

Hallo Jost,
 wie man liest, hab ich keine Probleme mit deutsch, ich hab das Land nur
urlaubsmasig verlassen und lebe jetzt im Landkreis Munchen und bin da
Mitinhaber einer kleinen (aber guten) Firma mit Namen ComIng, Kurzel fur
Computer und Ingenieure, womit gesagt sein soll, das wir uns vor allem
imtechnischen Bereich bewegen. Damit ist OS-9 eins unserer Themen.
 Mir ist hier meine Message-Base voll abgeschmiert, deshalb bin ich mir nicht
ganz sicher, was ich schon gesagt habe. Daher nochmal von vorn:
 OS-9 68k kenne ich seit Version 2.0 und habe bis Version 2.4 ( die
Compilerversionen gehen in die hunderte) das System lieben und Microware hassen
gelernt. Mit Microware hatte ich hier praktisch nichts zu tun, mehr mit Dr.
Keil, dem Exclusivvertreiber. Beispielhafte Systeme waren auf VMEbus-Basis und
lebten mit eigenentwickelter Hardware und entsprechend neuen Devicetreibern und
naturlich angemessener Anwendungssoftware. Glanzstucke waren ein
In-Crcuit-Emulator fur einen Mil-exotenrechner und ein
Hardware-In-the-loop-Integrationssystem fur Sensor-Aktor-Busse in KFZ.
 Unser aktuelles Projekt Projekt bewegt sich im Bereich der
 Fahrzeugverfolgung im Guterverkehr mit GPS usw und der 162er (heute neu
gekriegt!) wir vor allem als Source-Debugging-Plattform dienen. Ich habe ehen
mit Cross-Umgebungen immer5 nur negative Erfahrungen gemacht.
 Target wird ein 68030er System sein mit extrem spezieller Peripherie, aber bei
einem entsprechenden Systemdesign last sich mit OS-9 ja einiges an Komplexitat
nehmen, indem man auf low-level-Systemdienste zuruckgreift (pipes, shared mem),
an die Testbeds locker anklinken konnen.
 Ok, Jost, ich mus mit unserem neuen System erst mal ein paar Erfahrugen
sammeln, daqnn gibts weiteres!
 Wir bleiben in Kontakt!?
 Jochen

  -Joachim Terasa @ 100421,2472 on 09-Mar-1995 23:41:04 CET
   Making software is getting hard, wherever you look.




#: 20834 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Mar-95  19:07:51
Sb: #UUCP/SMTP
Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417
To: sysop (X)

Hello everyone. Does anyone know if UUCP and/or SMTP has been ported to
OS9000/386 ?? Does anyone have SMTP running on OSK ?? Is there another UUCP
available, than the one from TOP-Munic-package ??

regards

ole@danelec.dk

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#: 20835 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Mar-95  05:28:47
Sb: #20834-UUCP/SMTP
Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
To: ole hansen 100016,3417

 > Hello everyone. Does anyone know if UUCP and/or SMTP has been ported to
 > OS9000/386 ?? Does anyone have SMTP running on OSK ?? Is there another
 > UUCP available, than the one from TOP-Munic-package ??
 >
 > regards
 >
 > ole@danelec.dk
 >

Hi there,

There is another UUCP package available here on the OS-9 Forum.  It's
UUCPbb 2.1, and I use it every day.  It works well on my 68340 OS-9
3.0 system, and several people have commented that it is better than
the TOP version.  I worked on the project myself, along with Bob Billson
and a few others.  It is a considerably solid package.  It has not been ported
to OS-9000 *yet* but work on that should be starting soon.

I am not aware of any SMTP clients ported to OS-9000 or OS-9.

Hope this helps.
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