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90766 22-NOV 03:50 System Modules (6809)
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RE: RBF (Re: Msg 90760)
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From: ISC To: RICKULAND
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> (Sorry guys, but this needs to be in the thread)
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> > or adding a super-lubing additive such as Dura-Lube.......
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> Excellent text, but one caution- bikes often use the
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> engine oil as clutch coolant! Under no circumstances should a
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> 'Slick50' type additive be used with an oil bath clutch! Doing so
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> is an invitation for repeated clutch failure until all that crap
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> finally rinses out 20 plates down the road..
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> -ricku
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> Rick Ulland CoNect
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> rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
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> "Operating System Nine"- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214
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You are correct about the caution, Rick. I have only owned an Italian 250cc -
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it's so long ago that I remember almost nothing about it. However, a
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penetrating lubricant such as the new "moleculars" would probably glaze and
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render the clutch inop. "...until all that crap finally..." wears out -
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moleculars are NOT going to rinse out - at LEAST "...20 plates down the
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road.." if that clutch uses the engine oil as clutch coolant.
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Thanks.
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90770 22-NOV 21:55 System Modules (6809)
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RE: RBF (Re: Msg 90763)
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From: DSRTFOX To: WDTV5
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Funny you should mention a GS1000G.. that's my current ride! Like it with the
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WindJammer on it! I've yet to have a serious wreck of any kind on a bike at
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all... maybe I'm just a little more respectful than some??? I really only
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started serious riding about 8 years ago... old enough to not try any of the
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dare-devil stunts, just a little "extra throttle" every now and then.... ;>
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90767 22-NOV 04:18 General Information
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RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90675)
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From: LARRYOLSON To: HAWKSOFT
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Chris,
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> No .wav support yet. But, sooooon!!! Thanks to Colin MaKay for providing
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> the WAV file format info.
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> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Is the next version still open for requests ?
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Could you add a quick record menu option ? It would work something like
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this..
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The QUICK record function would be initially disabled, until the
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frequency and length have been set for the first time, then it would be
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enabled. Clicking on the QUICK record option would use the same settings
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that were entered the last time the REGULAR record function was called.
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Just a little step saver.
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----- Larry Olson -----
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90779 24-NOV 22:22 General Information
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RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90767)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: LARRYOLSON
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> Could you add a quick record menu option ? It would work something
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> like this..
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> The QUICK record function would be initially disabled, until the
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> frequency and length have been set for the first time, then it would
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> be enabled. Clicking on the QUICK record option would use the same
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> settings that were entered the last time the REGULAR record function was
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> called. Just a little step saver.
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> ----- Larry Olson -----
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Hi Larry!
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Yeah, sounds like a good idea! I'll take a look in the source code and
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see how work-able it would be. Tho I think I might assign some defaults for
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use if the current settings aren't changed. Like 2 seconds at 1125 hertz
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(Many files I've seen use that speed).
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90814 27-NOV 13:50 General Information
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RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90779)
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From: LARRYOLSON To: HAWKSOFT
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> Tho I think I might assign some defaults for use if the current settings
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> aren't changed. Like 2 seconds at 1125 hertz
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> (Many files I've seen use that speed).
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Chris,
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Sounds good, (is that a pun?), I have been playing around with
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different things trying to get some good sound effects recorded and
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I find having to select the menu, select record, type 'y', then enter
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the same speed and time values that I have been entering for the last
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hour. Would it be possible to add another button for the quick record,
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so that you wouldn't have to go through the pull-down menu. You could
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have a record setting option in the pull-down that lets you set the
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values for quick record or the default settings, and then you would
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only need to click on the button to start recording.
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Was that 1125 hertz or 11250 hertz, I'm suprised at the low sample
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rate.
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Ok, Chris, give it some thought, I know that you are currently
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working hard on the CD read routines, and I don't want to pull you
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off that, but I also know that programmers like to get feedback on
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their programs.
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On a related subject, there was some talk about some change
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in ss_record to allow the use of memory outside of the 1 meg video
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ram, has this been done yet ? That "can't get enought memory" prompt
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is a bummer on a 9 meg machine ;-)
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Larry
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----- Larry Olson -----
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90826 27-NOV 21:41 General Information
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RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90814)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: LARRYOLSON
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Hi Larry!!
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Yeah, it was supposed to be 11025 hz!! And I'll look at waves as soon
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as I get some time <g>!
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90768 22-NOV 20:52 OSK Applications
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CD Rom Drives
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From: HAWKSOFT To: ALL
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Hi All!
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I've found a source for refurbished external CD Rom Drives (bare, so to
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speak). Using these drives (CDR25J), I would be able to sell a complete
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Plug and Play CD Rom Kit. Would anyone (everyone?) be interested???
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Kit would include:
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External NEC CD Rom Drive
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Power Supply
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Adapter Cable (from internal SCSI cable to back-plane mount DB-25. Mounts
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in printer cut-out on back of computer.)
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External Cable (from DB-25 to CD Rom Drive)
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Descriptor
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Driver
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File Manager
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Audio CD Software ( Virtual CD Player )
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Cost would run about $150 complete incuding U.S. Shipping.
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Requires OSK computer with a WD33c93 (or WD 33c93A) SCSI interface.
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If there is enough interest, I can have them available in a few weeks.
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90775 24-NOV 03:57 OSK Applications
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RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90768)
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From: EDELMAR To: HAWKSOFT
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Chris,
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I'll take one. You want a check or credit card?
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90776 24-NOV 08:41 OSK Applications
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RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90768)
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From: BILLDICKHAUS To: HAWKSOFT
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Chris,
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I'm interested.
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-Bill-
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90782 24-NOV 22:59 OSK Applications
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RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90775)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: EDELMAR
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> Chris,
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> I'll take one. You want a check or credit card?
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Hi Ed!
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That's what I like, a man of few words with money!!! Seriously, I can't
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take credit cards, so, send me a check. I'll order the drives and cables
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and adapter cable parts for a few tomorrow, and should be ready to ship in
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about 2 weeks!!!
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Send your check ($150 shipping and handling included) to:
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HAWKSoft
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244 S Randall Rd.
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Suite #172
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Elgin, Il 60123
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Thanks!!
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Chris
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90783 25-NOV 00:21 OSK Applications
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RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90782)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: HAWKSOFT
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Chris, add me to the list. Smail will go out tomorrow, unless you'd prefer
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email. :>
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Randy
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90790 25-NOV 22:04 OSK Applications
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RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90783)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: RANDYKWILSON
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> Chris, add me to the list. Smail will go out tomorrow, unless you'd
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> prefer email. :>
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> Randy
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Randy:
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See my latest message. My supplier sold out almost immediatly, so I
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won't be able to supply the CDRom drives.
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90769 22-NOV 21:51 General Information
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RE: OS9/Intel (Re: Msg 90751)
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From: DSRTFOX To: MACFADZEN (NR)
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I might add that the PowerPC version is now being shipped as a developers
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kit only, for the time being.
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90771 23-NOV 00:47 General Information
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RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90746)
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From: AJMLFCO To: BOISY
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I noticed that you said you "ordered" some CD-I titles. I live
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in a smaller town and would like to find a mail order outlet for CD-I
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titles (would'nt it be neat if Columbia House or BMG started carrying
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CD-I titles.) I just picked up a Magnavox CD-I and the Digital
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video cartridge at Price-Costco.
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90773 23-NOV 23:20 General Information
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RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90771)
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From: WA2EGP To: AJMLFCO (NR)
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If Phillips is up to par with following up, you might get an ad from them.
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I received one where they offer the FMV cartridge at $250 and I would get a
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movie or music video free. I got my Maggie on the clearance table at Radio
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Shaft for about $200 (some have gotten it cheaper).
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90784 25-NOV 06:32 General Information
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RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90771)
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From: BOISY To: AJMLFCO (NR)
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> I noticed that you said you "ordered" some CD-I titles. I live
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> in a smaller town and would like to find a mail order outlet for CD-I
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> titles (would'nt it be neat if Columbia House or BMG started carrying
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> CD-I titles.) I just picked up a Magnavox CD-I and the Digital
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> video cartridge at Price-Costco.
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Hey Allen,
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Glad to hear that you picked up a CD-i player. Did you get the 550 model?
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There are several companies that have discount prices on titles. One is
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called Video F/X, but I don't have their number right now. Perhaps someone
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with an issue of CD-i Magazine can look it up and post their number?
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Philips does have an order line; however, they sell titles at full
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retail price, so it is advantageous for you to find a reseller who
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sells below retail. Here's a message that you might find interesting:
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#: 49748 S6/Philips CD-i
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Mon 31-Oct-94 17:03:54
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Sb: #CD-i Software Support
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Fm: Lucy Lediaev [Philips] 72056,1130
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To: All
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Dear Forum Members,
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I am pleased to announce that as of today, Monday, October 31, 1994, a group at
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Philips Interactive Media in Los Angeles is responsible for all support of
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Philips Media CD-i and CD-ROM software products in the United States. (Those
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outside the US should obtain support from the Philips organization in the local
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country.) The telephone number for this group is 800 340 7888; this is the
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number that will be on software packaging in the US from now on.
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This new group is comprised of experienced CD-i software support personnel, a
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PIMA product test veteran and some new employees. We are able to answer gneral
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consumer questions about CD-i, about specific titles in both CD-i and CD-ROM
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formats, about title availability, and we can take orders, and give gameplay
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hints. We can also send an information package to prospective developers.
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Phone hours for the new software support group are 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. M, T, W,
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and F; 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Thursday, and 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday, Pacific
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Time.
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Please let me know if you have any comments or questions about US phone support
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for Philips CD-i and CD-ROM titles.
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We look forward to supporting our CIS forum friends,
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Lucy Lediaev
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Director, Customer Support
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P.S. CD-I hardware and accessory support is available from Philips Consumer
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Electronics at 800 531 0039.
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Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY
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|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems
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90772 23-NOV 00:53 General Information
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RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90758)
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From: AJMLFCO To: HAWKSOFT
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Chris,
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Will your CDRom File manager be driver independent? That is,
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will it work with systems other than MM/1 such as Kix, VME, Gespac?
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90774 23-NOV 23:23 General Information
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RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90758)
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From: WA2EGP To: HAWKSOFT
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Keep an eye on email for my beat-n-bash results.
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90781 24-NOV 22:59 General Information
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RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90772)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: AJMLFCO (NR)
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> Chris,
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> Will your CDRom File manager be driver independent? That is,
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> will it work with systems other than MM/1 such as Kix, VME, Gespac?
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> Just wondering how narrow your market focus was,
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Hi Al!!
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I'm hoping that it is driver independant (in true OS9 fashion)!!
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Ed Gresik is trying it out on the System IV & V. And, Bob D der P is going
|
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to give it a go on a VME system. I've got my fingers crossed!!!!
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
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90777 24-NOV 10:17 General Information
|
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Turkey Day-CoCo3 Sale
|
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|
From: RICKMAC To: ALL
|
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Happy Thanksgiving to all! The holiday season is here again, thanx to everyone
|
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for making the "CoCo experience" very interesting and informative.
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Will be putting up a 512K/6309 CoCo3 system for sale. anyone interested?
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Will post a classified within the week. Comes with a Magnavox monitor and
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almost everything else 'cept a hard drive and a printer.
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<oops>
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||
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Also have an "F" board CoCo2 with 64K. All details will be in the classified
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||
|
ad I will post.
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Rick McNabb
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90778 24-NOV 16:47 Applications (6809)
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RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90486)
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From: GLOCKR To: AJMLFCO (NR)
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I got it in the mail about 2 weeks ago but didnt see the forum until today.
|
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Thank you very much for the app note:) BTW do you know of any company producing
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a kit based on the 6809? Thanks
|
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Glockr
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90820 27-NOV 20:01 Applications (6809)
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RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90778)
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From: DSRTFOX To: GLOCKR (NR)
|
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|
You can write Motorola and get any of their spec sheets. The only 6809 boards
|
||
|
made at this time are controller boards. I do have the address of one company
|
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who makes a board that uses simple address decoding. Marty Goodman
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(MARTYGOODMAN)
|
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has been working on converting one to nearly emulate a CoCo so that a CoCo could
|
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be used as a development system. It wouldn't be able to address all RAM though
|
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(32K max, I think).
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End of Thread.
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90780 24-NOV 22:45 General Information
|
||
|
RE: Chicago CoCo-Fest (Re: Msg 90718)
|
||
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From: THESCHU To: DISTO
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|
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|
Hello Tony.
|
||
|
YES!!! Please do make it! You my if you need to send it here that will be no
|
||
|
problem.
|
||
|
I doo want to purchase the 2meg upgrade as do others, and some of your other
|
||
|
products.
|
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|
Brian
|
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90807 26-NOV 14:51 General Information
|
||
|
RE: Chicago CoCo-Fest (Re: Msg 90780)
|
||
|
From: DISTO To: THESCHU (NR)
|
||
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|
||
|
I may not have any 2-Meg or any other things left for the show. Only single
|
||
|
digit quantities of 2-Meg left. You may want to order now in mail-order. -Tony.
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End of Thread.
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90785 25-NOV 09:42 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90762)
|
||
|
From: DONALDS To: WDTV5
|
||
|
|
||
|
Hi Gene;
|
||
|
I have been able to do most of the blob patches but still am having trouble
|
||
|
with getting boot6_sl_63 patch to work When i try to reboot it will start
|
||
|
loading ( I start with a floppy then most of the boot is from HD- moved CC3GO)
|
||
|
then it will do alittle loading from the HD then hangup. So I am still
|
||
|
working with that.
|
||
|
I noticed in your first MYRAM file that when I install the driver then
|
||
|
do a IDENT onit where it should show 6809 obj code it shows (????) and when
|
||
|
I do a MDIR E it will show - r.?. - in the attr column. The ram disk
|
||
|
works fine but does show thise. I also wondered shouldn't there be at
|
||
|
least 1 cylinder allocated in the r0 module When I do a dmode on /r0
|
||
|
i get cyls=0 sectrk=5760 (etc).
|
||
|
I could not find your krnlutils in the data base.
|
||
|
Don
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90793 26-NOV 02:37 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785)
|
||
|
From: WDTV5 To: DONALDS
|
||
|
|
||
|
The weird ident is because ident doesn't recognise a module which is set
|
||
|
in its atrv and tyla bytes to be a native mode 6309 coded module. The
|
||
|
same comment re mdir e. I wonder what dmode you are using, its not doing
|
||
|
it the same as mine obviously. cyls should be 0 ok, but sectrk in mine
|
||
|
is 'sct' and it reports in hex insteada decimal. Thats the only variable
|
||
|
that actually counts though. As far as the krnlutils goes, I'll check the
|
||
|
database and get back to ya in a sec.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Cheers for now, Gene
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90794 26-NOV 02:40 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785)
|
||
|
From: WDTV5 To: DONALDS
|
||
|
|
||
|
Back Don, its in 'dat sys' under the handle of WOAY as the submitter.
|
||
|
I was shareing an account with Jim Martin, the CE at WOAY at that time.
|
||
|
Its about 2.5 screens down from the top of the list.
|
||
|
Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90800 26-NOV 10:05 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785)
|
||
|
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DONALDS
|
||
|
|
||
|
if you running native mode, i skipped the 6309 patch for the BOOT module
|
||
|
on my main CoCo i didn't need to BLOB proof it at all since im using
|
||
|
Sdisk 3.3-DMC for my disk driver. My Second CoCo3 was the BLOB problem
|
||
|
I just replaced the cc3disk module with the patched one. I went through
|
||
|
and changed the ty/la back to 6809 object since ident couldn't
|
||
|
identify it. I have not seen the BLOB on the second coco since then
|
||
|
|
||
|
I also noticed replacing the RBF module with edition 33 (6309, multicluster
|
||
|
and undel) i got 18 second megareads from both hard disks, where before
|
||
|
only the first hard disk would do 18 sec, go figure!
|
||
|
|
||
|
(im using a Ken-ton SCSI interface with SCSISYS 2.0)
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90825 27-NOV 21:34 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90800)
|
||
|
From: WDTV5 To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Hi Mike; I take it that rbf ed33 is working for you. I hadn't heard, which
|
||
|
I guess is good news! 18 seconds for both drives is also good, I wonder
|
||
|
what I did to make them equal speeds. Thats 13 secs on my own Maxtor 7120s
|
||
|
here, so I must come to the conclusion that the disto is quicker, unless
|
||
|
this Maxtor is. I doubt that inasmuch as the drives are all able to move
|
||
|
250+k a second when tied to an Amiga, and often in the megabyte/sec area!
|
||
|
BTW, my 'vfy' will properly identify those modules with the 'munged' atrv
|
||
|
and tyla bytes! Theres a LOT it can do if you haven't yet checked it out.
|
||
|
Glad to hear its working for someone else besides me. Have you reformatted
|
||
|
one of them for mutliple sector clusters yet, or were you already doing them
|
||
|
with ed 28?
|
||
|
Cheers, Gene
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90835 28-NOV 08:56 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90793)
|
||
|
From: DONALDS To: WDTV5 (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Thanks for the help Gene. After I sent the message to you I went to the
|
||
|
data base and searched again and found the first VFY and krnlutils. I
|
||
|
have been working with it some but keep getting a boot that I can't
|
||
|
format with.
|
||
|
Don
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90836 28-NOV 08:58 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90800)
|
||
|
From: DONALDS To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Thanks for the info. Where can I find RBF33 at ? Is it here in the data
|
||
|
base?
|
||
|
don
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90786 25-NOV 14:26 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90685)
|
||
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: MARTYGOODMAN
|
||
|
|
||
|
Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found
|
||
|
that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for!
|
||
|
I have a suspicion that an equivalently-priced inkjet would be much
|
||
|
better quallity and much more reliable.
|
||
|
|
||
|
- Tim
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90791 25-NOV 22:30 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786)
|
||
|
From: ISC To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
> Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found
|
||
|
> that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for!
|
||
|
> I have a suspicion that an equivalently-priced inkjet would be much
|
||
|
> better quallity and much more reliable.
|
||
|
>
|
||
|
> - Tim
|
||
|
>
|
||
|
I agree Tim. Epson and others have just released the new versions of their
|
||
|
inkjets which have significantly improved performance. Check them out.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Bill
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90803 26-NOV 14:03 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786)
|
||
|
From: DBREEDING To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
> Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found
|
||
|
> that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for!
|
||
|
|
||
|
I just don't know what to think. I paid $439 for an Epson LQ-870, thought
|
||
|
I'd go with the "best". It had a 2 year warranty, and would you believe?
|
||
|
2 years and ONE month the logic board went out, or so the service people
|
||
|
said. A replacement, refurbished board was about $230 installed. With
|
||
|
so much invested in the printer, I felt I almost had to try to get my
|
||
|
money's worth. I could have bought almost 3 cheaper printers for the
|
||
|
original cost and the repair cost. I've decided that it might be best
|
||
|
to just buy cheaper printers and "Timex" them when they go bad. Of course,
|
||
|
lasers might be a different story.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-- David Breeding --
|
||
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051
|
||
|
Delphi : DBREEDING
|
||
|
|
||
|
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
|
||
|
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90819 27-NOV 18:56 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786)
|
||
|
From: MARTYGOODMAN To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Tim,
|
||
|
|
||
|
I really am not familiar with what the output of the current lowest
|
||
|
priced xerographic printers looks like. HOWEVER... I can say that
|
||
|
IN GENERAL, I've never seen a decent, working xerographic printer
|
||
|
output (300 dpi standard minimum) that EVER looked worse than
|
||
|
the very BEST 300 or 360 dpi ink jet output. This because
|
||
|
the ink jet process, tho refined considerably, still produces
|
||
|
a characteristic "ink blurring". This makes print out,
|
||
|
in my opinion, always poorer than xerographic (laser or LED) printers.
|
||
|
|
||
|
---marty
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90823 27-NOV 20:17 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90819)
|
||
|
From: DSRTFOX To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Tim, the only problem with low-cost laser printers is the print speed and
|
||
|
low memory. They usually have no more than 512K and print at 4 pages per
|
||
|
minute. If you do a lot of printing, lasers are MUCH cheaper than any other
|
||
|
printer. Drawback is high initial cost and cost of new cartridges ($70 or more)
|
||
|
. Cartridges print 5,000-10,000 pages though, sometimes more. If you are using
|
||
|
the laser for text based applications, the memory is no problem. Add on
|
||
|
average $150 for an additional meg of memory if you want to do graphics from
|
||
|
an IBM compatible, or wiat a LONG time!!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Ink jets don't stand up well to lots of use. With lasers now coming closer
|
||
|
to ink-jet prices, the only consideration is space. The small lasers can't
|
||
|
be as compact as the ink-jets. The only other problem with lasers is the
|
||
|
possibility of jarring the mirrors and other parts when moving. So if you
|
||
|
move it a lot, get an LED laser printer. These use a laser LED array rather
|
||
|
than a rotating mirror and are much more robust and compact.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I work with a lot of lasers here on the USAF base. We have many old Wang
|
||
|
LBP-8 printers (old LJ II clones) that probably have millions of pages on them
|
||
|
already with no problems other than cleaning and maybe some paper feed
|
||
|
rollers. Inkjets, on the other hand, don't stand up to that kind of use.
|
||
|
Our 2 year old printer has almost 20,000 pages on it (actually about 20 months
|
||
|
old).
|
||
|
It has only gone through two $80 cartridges (this is a big 15 ppm printer!).
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90834 28-NOV 05:43 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
RE: printers (Re: Msg 90803)
|
||
|
From: EDELMAR To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
> I just don't know what to think. I paid $439 for an Epson LQ-870, thought
|
||
|
> I'd go with the "best". It had a 2 year warranty, and would you believe?
|
||
|
> 2 years and ONE month the logic board went out, ...
|
||
|
|
||
|
Sounds to me like someone at EPSON should be fired - supposed to fail after
|
||
|
2 years and one DAY <g>.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Seriously, I've stuck with OKIDATA for dot matrix printers. I have a couple
|
||
|
that are almost 10 years old and still perform quite well - just replace
|
||
|
ribbons. They're used in the store and get pretty heavy use on a daily
|
||
|
basis.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Re Lasers - I have a TANDY 950 which I used for quite a while. Supposed
|
||
|
to be HPL2 compatible and it was, mostly. Recently, I got an HP 4+. Some
|
||
|
of the code I used wouldn't work right - found that the TANDY wasn't
|
||
|
compatible in those areas. Also had similar problems with several clients
|
||
|
that used laser printers that were supposed to be HPL(n) compatible. Not
|
||
|
all laser printers claim HP compatibility. But, I don't believe HP is the
|
||
|
standard although some laser printer manufacturers claim compatibility.
|
||
|
Don't know that there is a 'standard' for printer languages.
|
||
|
|
||
|
As to reliability, most lasers use the same engine and I haven't run into
|
||
|
problems with the engines. Paper handling is different for each manufacturer
|
||
|
and some seem to have more problems than others. But I've had no problems
|
||
|
with either the TANDY or the HP.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I think the big difference between the various manufacturers will be the
|
||
|
availability of supplies; the toner cartridge and/or drum. Several of my
|
||
|
clients have tried third party toner cartridges (so have I) and have been
|
||
|
unhappy with the results. Part of the decision regarding purchasing a
|
||
|
laser printer is to consider the availability of parts and supplies many
|
||
|
years down the pike.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Ed
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90787 25-NOV 14:29 General Information
|
||
|
RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90730)
|
||
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: HAWKSOFT
|
||
|
|
||
|
Isn't it rather odd to have `attr' claim that CD-ROM files are _writable_??
|
||
|
- Tim Kientzle ;-)
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90789 25-NOV 22:04 General Information
|
||
|
RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90787)
|
||
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
> Isn't it rather odd to have `attr' claim that CD-ROM files are
|
||
|
> _writable_?? - Tim Kientzle ;-)
|
||
|
>
|
||
|
|
||
|
Yeah, I'll probably change that. It seemed simpler for copying to the Hard
|
||
|
Drive. You didn't have to change it to DED the files.
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
Chris
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
|
||
|
|
||
|
Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
|
||
|
|
||
|
******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90788 25-NOV 19:31 OSK Applications
|
||
|
CD Rom Drives
|
||
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
SORRY All!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Due to an unforseen problem (the supplier is sold out!!) I will not be
|
||
|
able to supply the CDRom kits I was hoping to offer (see msg # 90768).
|
||
|
Tho if I can find another source, (based on your response) I'll pick up
|
||
|
a few immeadiatly!!
|
||
|
|
||
|
I can, however, still offer the software:
|
||
|
|
||
|
Descriptor, Drivers, and File Manager with the audio player (VCDP)
|
||
|
|
||
|
for $50 shipping and handling included.
|
||
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And the Adapter Cable (connects internal SCSI cable to external DB-25
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for $25 shipping and handling included.
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The External Single Speed SCSI CD Rom drives are available from smaller
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retailers (see Computer Shopper etc.) for around $100 or so.
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Sorry Again!
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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90792 26-NOV 00:24 General Information
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RE: printer cable (Re: Msg 90745)
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From: WRHAMBLEN To: WAYNETHOMPSO
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Wayne,
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Here's what came out of my Epson printer manual and "Upgrading and
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Repairing PCs":
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direction
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. 25 pin end description from PC 36 pin end
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. 1 strobe* output 1
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. 2 data 0 output 2
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. 3 data 1 output 3
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. 4 data 2 output 4
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. 5 data 3 output 5
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. 6 data 4 output 6
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. 7 data 5 output 7
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. 8 data 6 output 8
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. 9 data 7 output 9
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. 10 ack* input 10
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. 11 busy input 11
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. 12 paper out input 12
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. 13 select in input 13
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. 14 auto feed* output 14
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. 15 error* input 32
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. 16 reset* output 31
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. 17 select* output 36
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. 18-25 ground 19-30
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* means active low.
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Hope this helps. Not all these connections are required for the printer
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to print. My PT68K-4 (Delmar System IV motherboard) talks to an Espson
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printer through a cable has only data, ground, strobe and ack connected.
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Bud
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90804 26-NOV 14:08 General Information
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RE: printer cable (Re: Msg 90792)
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From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: WRHAMBLEN
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Thanks for the info!
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Thanks,
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Wayne
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End of Thread.
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90795 26-NOV 09:48 General Information
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RE: Multiboot. (Re: Msg 90687)
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From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM
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What I do is have multiple bootfiles is use the utility "Blink" to change
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boots. I usually keep three bootfiles on disk.
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90828 27-NOV 23:06 General Information
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RE: Multiboot. (Re: Msg 90795)
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From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
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Thanx Mike, I'll check it out. Charlie
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End of Thread.
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90796 26-NOV 09:50 General Information
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RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90688)
|
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From: MIKE_GUZZI To: WAYNETHOMPSO
|
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|
||
|
According to the info I have on the disto. The Disto port uses the
|
||
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address range $FF40-$FF5F. remember the disk controller (even the RS one)
|
||
|
isn't decoded properly so it ghosts several times in the map.
|
||
|
|
||
|
There is an alternative! If you want to mount the PIA inside the CoCo itself
|
||
|
with one chip you can fully decode the internal pia, and then use one of its
|
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ghost slots for a new PIA.
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90805 26-NOV 14:23 General Information
|
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|
RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90796)
|
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From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: MIKE_GUZZI
|
||
|
|
||
|
Mike,
|
||
|
The information I have in my SC2 manual says that the MEB (mini expansion bus)
|
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|
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|
is 8 bytes mapped into $FF50 to $FF57, which is not normally available due to
|
||
|
the ghosting. The SC2 properly decodes this area.
|
||
|
Your alternative sounds intrigueing! I have heard of such a mod, ie
|
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|
piggybacking
|
||
|
a PIA on the coco motherboard but I haven't had the addresse for the internal
|
||
|
PIA's and where they ghost to. Since eventually I am going to upgrade an old
|
||
|
style RS controller to do high density, I was going to build both parallel
|
||
|
port cards, one to mount in the SC2 and one thats plugs into the MPI for when
|
||
|
I finally do the HD hack. (Your PIA file has been very instructional and was
|
||
|
the inspiration for building the PIA card for my SC2!) Could you give me some
|
||
|
more
|
||
|
info on the internal PIA? Thanks for your help!
|
||
|
Thanks,
|
||
|
Wayne
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
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||
|
90809 26-NOV 23:17 General Information
|
||
|
RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90805)
|
||
|
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: WAYNETHOMPSO
|
||
|
|
||
|
Well its slightly different for a CoCo1 vs CoCo3. The CoCo3 isn't as bad
|
||
|
with ghosting. The CoCo3 ghosts go like this
|
||
|
|
||
|
$FF00 pia ghosts to $FF04,$FF08,$FF0C
|
||
|
$FF20 pia ghosts to $FF24,$FF28,$FF2C
|
||
|
|
||
|
this means the A2,A3 lines need to be accounted for. the internal PIA's
|
||
|
don't use CS1, its tied high, so cut the trace out of CS1 then take a
|
||
|
NOR gate and feed A2,A3 into the inputs, the output goes to CS1.
|
||
|
That fully decodes the PIA. Then is pretty simple to piggyback a new
|
||
|
PIA into the old ghost slots.
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90812 27-NOV 12:48 General Information
|
||
|
RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90809)
|
||
|
From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Mike,
|
||
|
Just to make sure I understand, after I fully decode the Internal PIA,
|
||
|
The ghost locations are then free? Looking back in what little information
|
||
|
I have about the piggyback PIA, didn't someone come up with a file describing
|
||
|
this modification in detail? I seem to remember someone talking about it on
|
||
|
FIDO
|
||
|
but I can't remember their name. Do you know where I could get that file.
|
||
|
z Thanks,
|
||
|
Wayne
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90831 28-NOV 03:10 General Information
|
||
|
RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90796)
|
||
|
From: COCOKIWI To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
The DISTO is ported at $FF50-FF5F.....$FF40-$FF4F is the Controller!
|
||
|
The FF50 is located in the Mini Port....it decodes ALL the plugin,,s that
|
||
|
Disto offered at one time! The CoCo-3 is decoded a little better than it was!
|
||
|
-FF03 -FF04-FF1F PIA - 0 MIRRORED
|
||
|
FF20-23 -FF24-FF3F PIA - 1 -----
|
||
|
FF40-5F -FF60-FF7F
|
||
|
NOTE: IF MC2 IS SET TO 0
|
||
|
SCS IS NOW SET TO FF50-5F
|
||
|
FF40-4F IS NOW INTERNAL......<SPARE pin on 138 chip>
|
||
|
TANDY could have come out with a box with the Disk system in the case!
|
||
|
mc2 is bit 2 FF90 1=STD MODE SCS 0= EXTERNAL scs now FF50-5F
|
||
|
|
||
|
Just thought I,d add some here!<grin> Mike!
|
||
|
chears!Hic..dennis
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90832 28-NOV 03:20 General Information
|
||
|
RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90805)
|
||
|
From: COCOKIWI To: WAYNETHOMPSO (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
read my Note I tagged on to Mikes message!<Grin>
|
||
|
The CoCo-3 believe it or not has a built in decoder for the Disk area...
|
||
|
When BIT 2 FF90 is changed to a low the output SCS line is now setup as
|
||
|
FF50-5F......the other FF40-4F is off a spare pin on the 138...internal!
|
||
|
I built a disk system into my old coco 1 way back..ORG controller with an
|
||
|
extra board attached with switched EPROM...Sound port...Serial port...I
|
||
|
decoded the FF40-5f to FF40-4F and opened up the FF50 - 5F area using the
|
||
|
FF40 scs line......SO! I am VERY knowlagble in this area!<grin>having done it.
|
||
|
regards Dennis
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90797 26-NOV 09:54 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90722)
|
||
|
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: 01GEN40
|
||
|
|
||
|
try this
|
||
|
|
||
|
display 5 21 1b 21 >/w7
|
||
|
|
||
|
that will re-enable the cursor and do a window select
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90798 26-NOV 09:56 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90724)
|
||
|
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DBREEDING
|
||
|
|
||
|
The "C" designation IE 63C09 means it can run up to 3mhz. the B means
|
||
|
2mhz part, and no letter means 1 mhz part.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Basically the same for our parts: 6821 vs 68B21, 6809 vs 68B09. same part
|
||
|
just tells you how fast it can go.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Mike
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90801 26-NOV 12:23 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90735)
|
||
|
From: DBREEDING To: AJMLFCO (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
> If Hatachi followed the same numbering system their chips would
|
||
|
> be as follows:
|
||
|
>
|
||
|
> 63A09 = 1.0 Mhz
|
||
|
> 63B09 = 2.0 Mhz
|
||
|
> 63C09 = 3.0 Mhz
|
||
|
>
|
||
|
> I guess I can't prove any of this since I have long
|
||
|
> since disposed of all of my 8-bit Motorola books.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Apparently you're right, judging from all the other replies to the
|
||
|
post.
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
-- David Breeding --
|
||
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051
|
||
|
Delphi : DBREEDING
|
||
|
|
||
|
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
|
||
|
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90813 27-NOV 13:34 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90732)
|
||
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Hi David,
|
||
|
Thanks for the reply. I am not too worried about the amount of time
|
||
|
I spend on-line. I average about 12-13 hours a month. I am on the
|
||
|
20/20 Plan and have figured that I would spend more if I were on the
|
||
|
4/10 Plan. I like to go "net surfing" alot. As for the modem, I have
|
||
|
not had a chance to check into it. I will try the command you have
|
||
|
suggested though. Well, gotta go. See ya.
|
||
|
|
||
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
||
|
|
||
|
-= 01GEN40 =-
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90815 27-NOV 13:54 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90761)
|
||
|
From: 01GEN40 To: RICKULAND
|
||
|
|
||
|
Hi Rick,
|
||
|
Let me go to another window and list my file and check... I sure like
|
||
|
this OS-9 and my CoCo. Using the command "display" codes are sent to
|
||
|
the following palette registers, I think. In this order: 4,5,6,8,b,0,9,
|
||
|
1 and a. I do not use this command much at all, so I am figuring a
|
||
|
command such as "display 1b 31 4 1" means to make palette register
|
||
|
#4 the value of 1, right? A friend worked on this and gave it to me as
|
||
|
well. He figured I would like it, and I do. It keeps the various parts
|
||
|
of OSTerm in darker colors. I hope this will be of some help.
|
||
|
Hey! I just noticed, in your tagline, that you live in Milwaukee. I
|
||
|
used to live there back when I was 5 or 6 years old. I am almost 43
|
||
|
now. Could not tell you what part, too far back for me to remember. If
|
||
|
only I had had a CoCo back then! Anyway, gotta go. See ya.
|
||
|
|
||
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
||
|
|
||
|
-= 01GEN40 =-
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90816 27-NOV 13:56 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90797)
|
||
|
From: 01GEN40 To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
OK, I will. Thanks for the tip, Mike. See ya.
|
||
|
|
||
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
||
|
|
||
|
-= 01GEN40 =-
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90817 27-NOV 14:20 General Information
|
||
|
RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90816)
|
||
|
From: 01GEN40 To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
Ok, now that we all know the difference between the 63b09 and 63c09,
|
||
|
has anyone got a clue as to where to find a 63c09 and what other modi-
|
||
|
fications need be done. Obviously, a crystal change is in order. I
|
||
|
do have a 32Mhz crystal. Will it work? Is there going to be any kind
|
||
|
of tweeking to be done to say, the monitor? What about the MPI? At
|
||
|
the time that I swapped my 6809 for the 6309, I knew, from all that I
|
||
|
had read, that it was an even swap. I had no problem with that. I
|
||
|
mounted a socket and dropped in the 6309, and away I flew. Well,
|
||
|
I think that might be enough questions for now. See ya.
|
||
|
|
||
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
||
|
|
||
|
-= 01GEN40 =-
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90799 26-NOV 09:58 General Information
|
||
|
RE: MVCanvas (Re: Msg 90741)
|
||
|
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DONALDS
|
||
|
|
||
|
Far as I know, MVcanvas only has version 2.0 I never knew of any
|
||
|
update from then.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
90802 26-NOV 14:02 Programmers Den
|
||
|
RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90753)
|
||
|
From: DBREEDING To: PAGAN
|
||
|
|
||
|
> You need to zero out the path options. Under 3.2 you will use _gs_opt()
|
||
|
> twice (one to change and one to save), zero out everything but the baud
|
||
|
> rate and use _ss_opt to set the new options.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Thanks, Stephen, I got feedback from Bob Van Der Poel and Pete Lyall over
|
||
|
on CIS, saying the same.. well, actually, all I did was zero out EKO..
|
||
|
Learned something there.. didn't realize that the EKO would cause the system
|
||
|
to echo back to the modem, in this case.. I thought it would send it to the
|
||
|
screen, or whatever was path 1.
|
||
|
|
||
|
What I was trying to do was get an external autodialer up and running.. Got
|
||
|
it to get the connect, but now find out that there are already autodialers
|
||
|
available, but apparently have been put in archives or something.. There
|
||
|
are some for OS9 but I couldn't find any for OSK.
|
||
|
|
||
|
> Since switching to UCC for
|
||
|
> all dvelopment most of my old 3.2 code was put onto floppies so I dn't
|
||
|
> have anything I can conveniently send you.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Well, I think I'm on the right track now, if I continue, may just wait and
|
||
|
see what's available. No use re-inventing the wheel <G>
|
||
|
|
||
|
How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with
|
||
|
3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done
|
||
|
much programming yet.
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
-- David Breeding --
|
||
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051
|
||
|
Delphi : DBREEDING
|
||
|
|
||
|
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
|
||
|
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90810 27-NOV 00:25 Programmers Den
|
||
|
RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802)
|
||
|
From: PAGAN To: DBREEDING
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
>Thanks, Stephen, I got feedback from Bob Van Der Poel and Pete Lyall over on
|
||
|
>CIS, saying the same.. well, actually, all I did was zero out EKO.. Learned
|
||
|
>something there.. didn't reaaaze that the EKO would cause the system to echo
|
||
|
>back to the modem, in this casren, or whatever was path 1.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I'm not sure exactly what has to be zeroed in the scf path descriptor and
|
||
|
waht makes no difference - I just set everything to zero. I'm open to being
|
||
|
educated.
|
||
|
|
||
|
>How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with
|
||
|
>3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done
|
||
|
>much programming yet.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I think it great. A bit slower to compile than 3.2. If I turn off
|
||
|
optimization (-x=aoio) it take about 10% to 20% longer than 3.2 to compile
|
||
|
the same program after porting for UCC mode. With the optimization set to
|
||
|
default it take 1 1/2 to 2 times as long. Small price to pay for the
|
||
|
greater flexiblity and the finished code runs noticeably faster.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Once you get used to the differences, porting applications over to OS9000 is
|
||
|
much easier too. So far, I've found that the I$Sleep and I$Create calls are
|
||
|
different and the scf path structures are different. Oh yea, the global
|
||
|
pointer void *_glob_data isn't documented :-)
|
||
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From now on, just about everything I post will be compiled with UCC. I'm
|
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porting most of my G-Windows stuff for recompilation to OS9000.
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Stephen
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90811 27-NOV 09:04 Programmers Den
|
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RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802)
|
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From: JEJONES To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
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|
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> How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems
|
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> with 3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't
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> done much programming yet.
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Well...as time goes on, more and more code is going to be written assuming
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an ANSI/ISO C compiler. Either GCC or Ultra C will help in that regard.
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They both generate better code than the 3.2 compiler, though of course,
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doing so does take CPU time and memory.
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I don't know what the people distributing GCC are doing for libraries.
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Initially, I think the OS-9/68000 version was set up to use the 3.2
|
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compiler's libraries, though that wouldn't suffice for ANSI conformance,
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since ANSI adds a lot of library functions and adds bells and whistles to
|
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the commonly-found functions.
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If you intend to develop a commercial product and are thinking of using
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GCC, IMHO you had better read the GPL VERY carefully.
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Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
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Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside
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90824 27-NOV 20:36 Programmers Den
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RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90811)
|
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|
From: NIMITZ To: JEJONES
|
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|
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|
RE the GPL - from what I can see, the GNU folks have learned a little,
|
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|
and the developer now has little to worry about using GCC to develope
|
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commecial software. The last GCC library contained mods to make it much more
|
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ANSI compatible, and the library is
|
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growing more powerful over time. Of course, the GCLIB code is available
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for those needing functions not included with the compiler yet.
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|
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David
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-*-
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90827 27-NOV 22:13 Programmers Den
|
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|
RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90824)
|
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|
From: EDELMAR To: NIMITZ (NR)
|
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|
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|
David,
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> RE the GPL - from what I can see, the GNU folks have learned a little,
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> and the developer now has little to worry about using GCC to develope
|
||
|
> commecial software. ...
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|
|
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|
Suggest you enlist the services of a good legal beagle experienced in
|
||
|
copyright law as it applies to software. The last word I've received is
|
||
|
that you still cannot charge for programs using their libraries and you
|
||
|
must make the source code available to anyone requesting it. Also, you
|
||
|
are placing at risk customers that purchase software using the GNU libraries.
|
||
|
Of course, you can get a license (for cash money) from the GNU people
|
||
|
negating these risks and requirements.
|
||
|
|
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|
GCC has not been ported to OS9000/386. UCC has and it isn't a major task
|
||
|
porting stuff written in UCC from OS-9 to OS9000. Further, when the PowerPCs
|
||
|
become available, MW will have OS9000 and Ultra C ready to go. So far as I
|
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|
know, the only C-Compiler will be UCC - at least for a while.
|
||
|
|
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|
All of the above aside. One of the complaints members of this community
|
||
|
have made is that MW isn't providing adequate support. Don't you think these
|
||
|
complaints would have more merit if members of this community supported MW?
|
||
|
Maybe MW would support the personal market better if the personal market
|
||
|
supported them - just a thought.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Ed
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
|
||
|
90833 28-NOV 05:42 Programmers Den
|
||
|
RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802)
|
||
|
From: EDELMAR To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
David,
|
||
|
|
||
|
> What I was trying to do was get an external autodialer up and running.. Got
|
||
|
> it to get the connect, but now find out that there are already autodialers
|
||
|
> available, but apparently have been put in archives or something.. There
|
||
|
> are some for OS9 but I couldn't find any for OSK.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Don't know of a stand alone dialer but there are several comm packages that
|
||
|
include dialers. Check out 'aterm' - dialer in there works well but is
|
||
|
written in assembler. Also, check the new UUCPb port. It includes code for
|
||
|
dialing and auto-logon. Works quite well.
|
||
|
|
||
|
> How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with
|
||
|
> 3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done
|
||
|
> much programming yet.
|
||
|
|
||
|
PAGAN, in message #90810, covered the advantages of UCC pretty well. I had
|
||
|
looked at using the GNU compiler several years ago from a legal viewpoint.
|
||
|
According to the legal beagles, you may not sell software compiled by GNU
|
||
|
if you use the GNU libraries. And you are required to either provide, or make
|
||
|
available at no charge, the source code. (You are permitted a nominal charge
|
||
|
to cover copying and shipping costs.) I'm not aware of a port of the GNU C
|
||
|
Compiler to OS9000 - something I consider essential today. If you are
|
||
|
considering the PowerPC as a platform in the future, then UCC is the way to
|
||
|
go. IMO, I don't believe MW will port 3.2 and whether someone will do a GNU
|
||
|
port is unknown. One other thing and for what it's worth to you, MW is
|
||
|
working on making UCC Posix compatible.
|
||
|
|
||
|
To elaborate on PAGAN's comments re speed. The ports I did of G-WINDOWS
|
||
|
for the SYSTEM's IV and V were done using 3.2. Replacing certain functions
|
||
|
with assembler resulted in speed increases between 2 and 3 times. Under
|
||
|
OS9000, I've had similar speed improvements re UCC vs 3.2. The driver was
|
||
|
compiled under UCC giving no weight to size and maximum weight to speed.
|
||
|
I don't know if I could improve performance using assembler - the assembler
|
||
|
listings (under UCC) looked pretty good. On the other hand, I'm not very
|
||
|
experienced with Intel assembler code.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Support may be another factor. MW has done a pretty good job of supporting
|
||
|
Ultra-C. If you don't have a maintenance contract, they won't be cooperative
|
||
|
after 90 days for phone support but they have been responding to e-mail. I'm
|
||
|
not aware of any support (except from other users) for the GNU C Compiler.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Ed
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90806 26-NOV 14:48 OSK Applications
|
||
|
MM/1 monitor compatibility
|
||
|
From: MMCCLELLAND To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
Can somebody tell me if the MM/1 works properly with monitors that can
|
||
|
only sync down to a horizontal frequency of 31.5 KHz? I will be buying a
|
||
|
monitor in the near future, and I need one which will be MM/1 compatible. I
|
||
|
have heard that the MM/1 is switchable between 15.75 and 31.5 KHz, but that
|
||
|
the current drivers cannot support the latter frequency.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-=Mark=-
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90808 26-NOV 15:31 OSK Applications
|
||
|
RE: MM/1 monitor compatibility (Re: Msg 90806)
|
||
|
From: BOISY To: MMCCLELLAND (NR)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Hi there,
|
||
|
|
||
|
The MM/1 needs a monitor that can sync at 15.75 KHz. Any monitor that
|
||
|
won't sync that low will not work. If you're looking for a good monitor
|
||
|
that works on the MM/1, CoCo 3 and a PC compatible, you might want to
|
||
|
check out the SONY CDP-1302. Mine is 14", .25 dot pitch, 800x600 res.,
|
||
|
and works absolutely great with my MM/1. In fact, I can bring in the picture
|
||
|
and see the entire overscan screen. David Graham (NIMITZ) can give
|
||
|
you information on the SONY monitors that he is selling. I highly recommend
|
||
|
it. You will not find a sharper picture on an MM/1 or CoCo 3, plus it's
|
||
|
switchable between analog and digital RGB.
|
||
|
|
||
|
True, the VSC in the MM/1 can do 31.5 KHz, but the trade off is that the
|
||
|
horizontal resolution is halved. And K-Windows does not support the 31.5
|
||
|
KHz mode, so you're stuck with having to buy a monitor that syncs down
|
||
|
to 15.75 KHz
|
||
|
|
||
|
Good luck.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
End of Thread.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90818 27-NOV 17:58 General Information
|
||
|
CoCo3 System For Sale
|
||
|
From: RICKMAC To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
512K CoCo III System for Sale
|
||
|
---------------------------------------------
|
||
|
|
||
|
> HARDWARE <
|
||
|
512K CoCo III w/6309 PowerBoost installed, spare 6809s.
|
||
|
(Practical Peripherals 512K Board)
|
||
|
64K CoCo II "F" Board Design
|
||
|
Magnavox 8CM515 RGB/comp. Monitor
|
||
|
FD-500 Disk Drive Case & Controller
|
||
|
w/two TEAC FD-55BR drives installed (720K DS)
|
||
|
CoCo III upgraded MultiPak
|
||
|
Commplus 2400 BPS Modem
|
||
|
RS-232 Pak w/socketted 6551A chip.
|
||
|
ORCH-90 Stereo Music Pak
|
||
|
CCR-81 Cassette Recorder
|
||
|
Blue Streak Serial to Parallel Printer Interface
|
||
|
2 ea. Deluxe Joysticks (two button)
|
||
|
2 ea Regular Joysticks (one button)
|
||
|
Two button mouse.
|
||
|
One button mouse
|
||
|
|
||
|
> SOFTWARE <
|
||
|
OS-9 Level Two MultiVue Deskmate 3
|
||
|
Home Publisher
|
||
|
Dynacalc for OS-9 C Compiler For OS-9 Basic09
|
||
|
Disk Editor Assembler
|
||
|
Phantomgraph Bio-Sphere Rogue
|
||
|
Rescue on Fractulus
|
||
|
Koronis Rift Microscopic Mission Sub Battle
|
||
|
Robot Odyssey I
|
||
|
Carmen SanDiego Kings Quest III CoCo Max III
|
||
|
Crystal City
|
||
|
Telewriter-64 Telepatch Gwana-Bwana
|
||
|
Micro-Ilustrator
|
||
|
InterBank Incident PitStop II Shamus
|
||
|
Bugs
|
||
|
Galagon Buzzard Bait Cubix
|
||
|
The King
|
||
|
Zeus Bedlam Raaka-Tu
|
||
|
The Third Rainbow Book of Adventures
|
||
|
|
||
|
> ROM PAKS <
|
||
|
Rampage Predator Rad Warrior
|
||
|
Robocop
|
||
|
Malcolm Mortar Mind-Roll Super Pitfall
|
||
|
Football II
|
||
|
Castle of Tharoggad Silpheed StarBlaze
|
||
|
Project Nebula
|
||
|
Microbes Poltergiest
|
||
|
|
||
|
> BOOKS, MANUALS, ETC. <
|
||
|
Technical Reference Manual for CoCo II
|
||
|
Technical Reference Manual for CoCo III
|
||
|
The Complete Rainbow Guide to OS-9
|
||
|
Assembly Language Graphics - Don Inman & Kurt Inman
|
||
|
6809 Assembly Language Programing - Lance Leventhal
|
||
|
Disk BASIC Unravelled
|
||
|
Extended Color BASIC Unravelled
|
||
|
Super Color BASIC Unravelled
|
||
|
|
||
|
100+ Public Domain Programs for RSDOS & OS-9
|
||
|
|
||
|
NOTES:
|
||
|
All equipment and software is in COMPLETE working condition and
|
||
|
the system was working reliably last time used.
|
||
|
Everything except a few items has the original packaging.
|
||
|
Am asking $350 for this "bundled" sale. Includes the shipping.
|
||
|
Everything sold "as-is". No warranties implied or intended.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Rick McNabb
|
||
|
|
||
|
Contact me at the following addresses:
|
||
|
DELPHI - RICKMAC
|
||
|
Compuserve - 76675,3612
|
||
|
Internet - RICKMAC@DELPHI.COM
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90821 27-NOV 20:08 General Information
|
||
|
OS-9 Late Night:Reminder
|
||
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
OS-9 Late Night
|
||
|
Monday November 28, 1994 at 10:00 PM(EST)
|
||
|
Topic:Open Forum
|
||
|
|
||
|
As usual, come one,come all! There is quite a bit going on in
|
||
|
our little 'Cult Society'<grin> as of late. Boisy Pitre has a new
|
||
|
terminal program for the MM/1, CD-I is really going over well,
|
||
|
and I'm gonna have a TON of Basic09 questions, so please be
|
||
|
there! :-)
|
||
|
|
||
|
By the way, I should hopefully have the schedual for BOTH
|
||
|
December and January shortly after this Monday's conference, so
|
||
|
do keep your eyes open for that.
|
||
|
|
||
|
See Ya!
|
||
|
>Chris<
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90822 27-NOV 20:17 System Modules (6809)
|
||
|
boots
|
||
|
From: RICKULAND To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
Well, I haven't had this much fun in years. Anybody else
|
||
|
want to play? The givens- a 1 meg 6809 and disto drive. Needed a
|
||
|
new boot badly. trot out all the old favorites.....
|
||
|
Results- after remembering the attr thing, a deblob (just
|
||
|
repositioned) to get the floppies writing, looks ok, except std*
|
||
|
won't merge to /w, and I cannot install term_win. Term_vdg works
|
||
|
fine, extra windows look ok, MVue even starts (without fonts).
|
||
|
Ezgen term_win in - boot failed way back in the OS9 BOOT
|
||
|
stage. Tried 3 windints, 2 scf, and serveral term,w,etc descripts
|
||
|
So I'm quite stuck. Anybody?
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
-ricku
|
||
|
|
||
|
Rick Ulland CoNect
|
||
|
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
|
||
|
"Operating System Nine"- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90829 27-NOV 23:24 General Information
|
||
|
Zip/Unzip 5.0 C source
|
||
|
From: BOISY To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
I have the source to the latest version of zip/unzip (5.0). If anyone
|
||
|
would like to port it to OSK, please let me know and I'll send you the
|
||
|
source.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I would do it, but am involved in too many things as it is. It sure
|
||
|
would be nice to have this latest version ported over.
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90830 28-NOV 02:13 General Information
|
||
|
CoCo 3 Emulator
|
||
|
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
There has been qpuite a flurry of messages about theh release of Jeff's
|
||
|
CC3 Emulator. Most of it (but only most) true. But little has
|
||
|
upght up in a firpestoem
|
||
|
of others ideas. Some pure speculation! It is NOT PD, and SHOULD NOT
|
||
|
BE in downloads anywhere!
|
||
|
Jr
|
||
|
Jeff has written a heck of a program,, give him a day to think things through
|
||
|
and there will be a fair chance for everyone.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90837 28-NOV 13:27 General Information
|
||
|
OS9 running on an HP200
|
||
|
From: CSLEWIS To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
P95 (these are Hewlett Packard palmtops)
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
90838 28-NOV 19:53 General Information
|
||
|
IMPORTANT! FROM: JEFF
|
||
|
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
|
||
|
|
||
|
28-NOV-1994 02:50:07.30
|
||
|
From: IN%"jeffv@PHYSICS.UBC.CA" "Jeff Vavasour"
|
||
|
Subj: CoCo 3 Emulator, IMPORTANT
|
||
|
|
||
|
Well, with others putting out notices about the CoCo 3 emulator,
|
||
|
there are a few things I feel I should post to clear up:
|
||
|
1. The CoCo 3 emulator is available only by registration.
|
||
|
|
||
|
2. Registration info is found in the *new* ver 1.40 release of
|
||
|
the CoCo 2 emulator, which should appear on SimTel FTP mirror
|
||
|
sites shortly. The file is coco2-14.zip (*not* coco2-13.zip).
|
||
|
One SimTel site is oak.oakland.edu, the directory is
|
||
|
pub/msdos/emulator.
|
||
|
|
||
|
3. Those who contributed to Rick Cooper's CoCo Emulator Bounty
|
||
|
Escrow Fund will receive credit up to the full value of the
|
||
|
registration fee, $25. (I'm taking the monthly report in CFDM's
|
||
|
Forum as authoritative on who contributed, and how much. Please
|
||
|
contact Rick if there is any error in your entry in this report.)
|
||
|
|
||
|
4. Those who contributed in excess of the $25 to the Fund will
|
||
|
receive a typeset printed version of the manual with their copy.
|
||
|
(This is a bounus available *only* to those who contributed to the
|
||
|
Fund in excess of $25.)
|
||
|
|
||
|
5. Those who did not contribute to the Fund may obtain a copy of
|
||
|
the emulator for $25 by following the instructions in Section 8 of
|
||
|
the CoCo 2 emulator's documentation.
|
||
|
(The file is COCO.DOC in coco2-14.zip.)
|
||
|
|
||
|
6. Please take time to follow verify that you have the correct
|
||
|
system requirements by reading the COCO.DOC file and following the
|
||
|
test procedure for your VGA card and disk drives.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Please feel free to repost this message anywhere you can. There
|
||
|
appear to be rumours and speculation circulating already, which
|
||
|
I'd like to clear up.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Again, the CoCo 3 emulator is not in itself shareware. The CoCo
|
||
|
2 emulator is shareware in that, if you register it, you get the
|
||
|
CoCo 3 emulator. The CoCo 3 emulator is only available to those
|
||
|
who register, and is not freely distributable.
|
||
|
|
||
|
- Jeff
|
||
|
|
||
|
-*-
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
|
FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>
|