textfiles/messages/ALANWESTON/1993/CIS01_23.txt

#: 17371 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Jan-93  21:21:12
Sb: #17366-#Ved/68K upgrade
Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

yep... I still live there.  I look foward to the ann., off the recored, what is
your upgrade policy? also, a suggestion(or two); make the tab key be a tab key.
and if you just hit esc. have a little menu bar with the submenus pop-up... and
make it more colorful... graphical or something... the MM/1 is sapose to be  a
bit of a graphics machine... K.E.G.



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#: 17393 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Jan-93  13:57:05
Sb: #17371-Ved/68K upgrade
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

Ken, thanks for the interest in Ved and suggestions...

1. Upgrade policy: Normally we charge a nominal 5 to 10 dollars for an upgrade.
Really just to cover the cost of media, etc. However, with a major change like
from Ved 1.x to 2.0 we do have to charge a bit more. Full details are in the
upgrade announcment in the mail to you.

2. Making tab==tab: Do remember that ALL the keybindings in Ved are user
defineable. This is made much easier with 2.0 since we now include MVEF in the
package. MVEF makes it easy to create a customized environment file with the
key laid out the way you think the should be.

3. Menus: Ved is _not_ a mm/1 editor. It is designed to work on any OSK
platform, and as such does have to assume a somewhat limited environment. The
only thing Ved _really_ needs is cursor positioning. Adding color and stuff is
really quite easy if you want to fool around with the termcap file..nothing
from stopping you from defining 'so' (standout) as red letters on yellow....

4. MM/1: We have included some support for Kwindows. Ved will read a mouse to
get cursor positioning, etc. and does a few things with the Kwindows screen
drivers.

5. A future version of Ved _may_ incorporate a front-end option. As envisioned
a front-end would be a user (or 3rd party) written program which would filter
commands (keys) before they get to Ved. This program could then do it's own
menus, etc. Or it could be a executive in an interactive c-programming
environment. The exec. could transfer control between programs, and even pass
error line numbers to Ved so that the correct line pops up after a unsuccessful
compile. This is still in the planning stage...

#: 17377 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Jan-93  09:36:21
Sb: #terminal help
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: all

I need to now if I am on the right track here. I got an old XT from work for
free and I want to set it up to use as a mail reader running SLMR. This is what
I think I need to do, please let me know if I am going in the right direction
or not.

I will run a null modem cable from the serial port on the xt to /T1 on my MM/1.
I will run a telcom program on the xt and one on the MM/1. This should allow me
to transfer program via xmodem. I would also like to login to the MM/1. Do do
this do I run tsmon for T1 or do I setup a shell on T1.

Any help would be appreated. Thanks Keith Bauer

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#: 17378 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Jan-93  14:06:08
Sb: #17377-#terminal help
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith,

You're on the right track. You could do either, I run a shell on my CoCo for
access to the CoCo from my MM/1, and I run mtsmon for dialup access to the MM/1
from work.

To run a shell, try: (shell <>>>/t1 &)

You can add any of the shell parameters, like -p=MM1, or -l to require logout
to end the shell, that way you can't accidentally shut that shell down with
ESC.

To run mtsmon, try: (mtsmon -s /t1 &)

In any case, use xmode to set proper baud rate, etc. before starting up the
shell, or mtsmon.

Using either method, you can do file transfers from a terminal program on the
XT via Kermit or Zmodem without running a terminal program on the MM/1 side.
I'm not aware of an OSK xmodem server, but there might be one floating around.
How to do this depends on the terminal program you use on the XT, I do Zmodem
transfers (Kermit too) dialed into my MM/1 from work where I use Crosstalk on a
Dell 386.

        -Bill-

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#: 17388 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jan-93  06:47:56
Sb: #17378-terminal help
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Thanks I guess I am ready to give it a try. My serial card should be in on
Tuesday. Thanks for the help. Keith

#: 17392 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jan-93  12:50:27
Sb: #17378-#terminal help
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Re: xmodem server for OSK. I have a file in my archives called xm19.ar. I
believe I got it here, but not sure if that is the filename (it probably is).
The archive contains source for an interactive xmodem server. I have never
tried it...but it should work.

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#: 17401 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Jan-93  07:45:38
Sb: #17392-#terminal help
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

I have what I think is the OS9 version of that xmodem server, its called xm,
and its version 1.8. I'll look around for the OSK version. Thanks.

        -Bill-

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#: 17405 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Jan-93  05:33:19
Sb: #17401-terminal help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,

It's in LIB 7 I think.

I grabbed it last night and it seemed to compile ok with a few minor tweaks.

You may want to look for the reference to 'pwd' and change it to 'pd'. It's
somewhere  around the 'log directory' option.



*- Steve -*



#: 17379 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Jan-93  14:42:38
Sb: BGFX
Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372
To: kevin darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin, I am a new purchaser of an MM1. I am told you have BGFX for this machine
for sale. I would like to purchase a copy but do not know where to send the
money! Could you contact me here or:
  Ted Jaeger
  1809 Haddley Lee
  Fulton, MO   65251
  1-314-642-4308

 Thanks,
   Ted
  72467,372

#: 17380 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Jan-93  14:47:20
Sb: signal handler
Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372
To: kevin darling 76703,4227 (X)

I am trying to write a signal handler using BASIC and syscalls for my mouse.
Have a signal for the mouse to return and the process asleep but cannot manage
F$Icpt and writing the signal to a known memory location. I assume that the
mouse signal is received in one register of the 68070 but which one? And then,
what 68000 assembly language instruction would write that signal value to
memory? I believe if I knew these two things I could accomplish the signal
handler so I am wondering if you know? Really, I am just trying to clone Dale
Puckett's trick that was in Rainbow several years back.
  Thanks,
   TedJaeger
   72467,372

#: 17381 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Jan-93  14:51:23
Sb: KWindows buttons
Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372
To: all

Using KWindows, I have created buttons with shell "display 1e 28 ....". I find
that if the button encroaches on the bottom line of a Type 0 screen on my MM1
the normal gray face of the button takes on the background color of the screen
and its 3d movement is lost. This a bug or am I doing something wrong? Also, I
find that these buttons automatically depress when clicked on with the mouse,
provided that the process is not asleep and the mouse has no signal to return.
Under the latter conditions, no button movement. Again, am I doing something
wrong here?
  Thanks,
   TedJaeger
   72467,372

#: 17382 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Jan-93  15:00:53
Sb: #QUANTUM
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: All

HELP....does anyone have a phone number for Quantum. My HD just stopped
working. It will not format since it can't seem to read LSN1 or 2. This drive
has been getting flakier and flakier as time goes on.

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#: 17407 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    19-Jan-93  09:29:07
Sb: #17382-QUANTUM
Fm: Jay Truesdale [JBM] 71174,3442
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Quantum: (408) 432-1100 in CA.

Tech Support (800) 367-1984.




#: 17386 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Jan-93  00:28:32
Sb: OS9 Programmer Avail.
Fm: steve mann 71310,1742
To: All

OS-9/68K Programmer Available. I have three years experience with OS9 in
firmware development and firmware group supervision.  I have ported OS-9 to our
68000-based proprietary processor board, written device drivers and product
related control modules.  Overall I have 13 years experience with various
microprocessors, but I like the 68K and OS-9 the best. I am interested in a
permanent position only; no contract jobs. If you are a hiring manager or know
of one who would be interested in my full resume, I can be reached by
Internet:smann$peck.com, or by CIS, 71310,1742.

Or, by US Snail, Steve Mann, 124-h Blossom Hill Road, Suite 324, San Jose, CA
95123.



#: 17394 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Jan-93  14:17:13
Sb: archives
Fm: John Raymond 74250,3214
To: os  9 users

 Need help with .ar files. They download ok, but how to unarchive?

#: 17397 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Jan-93  16:09:45
Sb: #CoCoFest
Fm: Howard Luckey 74746,3207
To: ALL

The Glenside Color Computer Club of Ill. announces the Seconde Annual "Last"
CoCoFEST, on May 1st and 2nd, 1993 at the Holiday Inn Elgin (A holidome
recreation center.).  The address is 345 W. River Road, Elgin IL.  The
overnight room rates are $52.00 plus 10% tax.  Call 1-708-695-5000 or
1-800-holiday for reservations, and be sure to ask for the "Glenside" or
"CoCoFest!" rate. Admission is $10.00 at the door for a two day pass (no one
day passes). Advanced ticket prices are $8.00 and to buy them send the $8.00
with a SASE or the $8.00 pluse $.50 for shipping and handling to George
Schneeweiss, Tresurer, Glenside Color Computer Club, RR#2 Box 67, Forrest, Il
61741-9629. For further information, general or exhibitor contact: Tony
Podraza, President GCCCI at 708-428-3576 (voice) or 708-428-0436 (BBS); or Carl
Boll, Vice President, GCCCI, at 312-735-6087 (voice) or 312-735-3355 (BBS).




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#: 17399 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Jan-93  21:23:25
Sb: #17397-#CoCoFest
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207

Sounds interesting...

Pretty quick on the heels of the Mid America CoCo-Fest in Des Moines on March
27th and 28th.

It would be nice if we'd get a little coordination on these fests.

Lee



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#: 17404 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Jan-93  21:53:12
Sb: #17399-#CoCoFest
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

Dear Lee: I agree, hopefully I can make it to both, definately Glensides'.
--Br. Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 17422 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Jan-93  09:53:46
Sb: #17404-CoCoFest
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142

Dear Bro.:  Fortunately for you, anyway, you're some what in the region for
both fests.  I'd be looking at two 700+ mile trips roughly a month apart. It'll
be tough for me to make it to both.

Lee

p.s. Having a CoCoFest in Des Moines, isn't that the OS-9ers answer to Mecca?
Don't the OS-9 faithful have to go on a pilgrimage at least once to the holy
city?

Lee

#: 17403 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Jan-93  21:50:38
Sb: #17397-CoCoFest
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207

I'll be there. --Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 17412 S1/General Interest
    20-Jan-93  22:00:43
Sb: #my account
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: all

Those of you who also are members of Delphi will find this announcement as no
surprise.  But to the rest of you.....

As some of you know already, I have been 'sharing' a Delphi Account with Alan
Sheltra, Editor and Publisher of the OS9 Underground Magazine.

Well, Alan and I made a decision a few nights ago (based on all the GOOD THINGS
that I had to say about everyone here on CIS), and that is that we would dump
our Delphi Account, and concentrate on using CIS instead.

So, if you ever need to reach me and my company - Sirius Software & Hardware  
OR   if you ever need to reach Alan Sheltra regarding the OS9 Underground
Magazine or Animajik Productions.....

then, by all means, leave private email to....

70673,1754

All messages will be replied to....

Take care, guys.....it's good to be back full-time on this excellent service!!

jim Sutemeier

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#: 17413 S1/General Interest
    20-Jan-93  22:59:35
Sb: #17412-#my account
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)

Welcome back, Jim!

  Wayne

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#: 17418 S1/General Interest
    22-Jan-93  20:15:05
Sb: #17413-my account
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Wayne Day 76703,376

Thank you very much, Wayne, it's good to be back here on a 'full time' basis. 
Glad to see you're still SysOp here (gads, how many years has it been for you??
I remember back in 84 you were here!!)

Take care.

jim

#: 17416 S1/General Interest
    21-Jan-93  18:18:39
Sb: #17412-#my account
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)

Well done, Jim!  Glad of the change.  Regards, Ches.

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#: 17419 S1/General Interest
    22-Jan-93  20:15:40
Sb: #17416-my account
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Thanks for the well wishes....see you online here!!

jim

#: 17414 S15/Hot Topics
    21-Jan-93  05:04:17
Sb: New Product Announcement
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All

Announcing a new product for all MM/1 owners.

The Dirt Cheap Computer Stuff Company, DccS, (me), is pleased to offer a
Floptical Disk Drive.  These drives use 3.5 inch optical disks to read and
write up to 21 Megabytes of data on one disk, while still being able to read
and write standard 1.44 Meg and 720K floppies.

The drives are mounted as a normal 3.5 inch floppy disk drive and connected
using your SCSI cable.  A special device driver and descriptor (/f0) allows you
to access all disk types (21 Meg, 1.44 Meg, 720k) through the same descriptor. 
The drive automatically detects the different types. All disk types are
formatted using special descriptors that can be loaded when needed or included
in your boot file.

Read/write speeds for the 21 Meg disks are much faster than standard floppy
disks.  Measured transfer rates for reading are 124 Kbytes a second and 74
Kbytes a second for writing.  This compares to 15 Kbytes reading and 1.8 Kbytes
writing for a 1.44 meg floppy on the MM/1.  Seek times for the 21 Meg drives
were measured at 137ms average (at the application).

The price for a complete system including the drive, software drivers and
descriptors and documentation for installing and using the drive is $350.00. 
This drive and the software drivers are offered exclusively by DccS.  For more
information, or to place and order contact DccS either by e-mail to me, or
calling or writing the following:

        Mark Griffith
        DccS
        1368 Old Hwy 50 East
        Union, MO 63084

        (314) 583-1168  (leave a message, I'll call back)

                    /*----------- /\/\ark -----------*/

#: 17420 S5/OS9 Users Group
    23-Jan-93  03:09:21
Sb: Good to See It!
Fm: Todd Cooper 76526,2751
To: Wayne

Wayne - This is great!  Last year I was told you guys didn't have any real
(i.e., used often enough so it's not a pain) way of exchanging EMail. Tell
whoever is responsible that it is appreciated!

Toddly

#: 17421 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    23-Jan-93  09:48:40
Sb: send 6309 disks
Fm: maarten amj van wamelen 100115,2205
To: kevin darling

to kevin darling please send reply about the disks i send you answer please

#: 17423 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Jan-93  09:56:48
Sb: ar thanks
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: John Raymond 74250,3214

Glad you're on track.

Of course, you can always use the -? parameter (AR -?) to dump out some
reminder notes.  Their pretty good as a quick reminder.

Lee



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