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B R I T C O M E D Y D I G E S T
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VOL. I Craig Charles cleared of all charges JUNE 1995
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No. 9 James Herriot dies at 78
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A monthly electronic newsletter on British comedies.
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What's Inside
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* Craig Charles Cleared Of Rape Charges
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* "How To Get Ahead In A Hat": Alan Davies and Dave Allen talk
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* The Day Today
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* Usenet Vox Pops
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Regular Departments
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* Mailbox
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* Britcomedy News
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* Newsquirks
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* Editorial/Opinion Page
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* net.comedy
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* Quote-o'-the-Month
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* ETC.
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Britcomedy Digest (ISSN 1077-6680) Schopenhauer Publishing Co.
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Copyright (c) 1995 by Melinda Casino. Reproduction for personal and
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non-profit use is permitted only if this copyright notice is retained. Any
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other reproduction is prohibited without permission.
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Managing Editor
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Melinda 'Bob' Casino
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Contributing Editor
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Michelle Street
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Assistant Editor
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James Kew
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Copy Editor
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Cynthia Edwards
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Contributing Writers
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Barry Cronin
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HTML logo by Nathan Gasser; HTML conversion by James Kew.
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Mailbox
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I just found Britcomedy Digest yesterday and love it! I devoured all of the
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back issues last night...well, no I didn't actually eat them...
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I am a huge fan of Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry. I would love it if someone
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could fill me in on what they've done and what they're working on now.
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I've seen Black Adder, Jeeves and Wooster, and some of the wonderful A Bit
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of Fry and Laurie and I long for more.
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Amy Troutman - Germantown, MD
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atroutman@hns.com
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EDITOR'S RESPONSE: Stephen Fry was due to be in the play Cell Mates with Rik
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Mayall, but has pulled out suddenly (see "News"). The two do commercials in
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the UK.
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Britcomedy News
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CRAIG CHARLES CLEARED OF ALL CHARGES
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Red Dwarf actor Craig Charles was cleared of rape and assault charges last
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week at Southwark Crown Court, London. It took the jury just 90 minutes to
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decide that the Charles and co-accused John Peploe were not guilty, ending
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what has been "an eight month nightmare" for the actor.
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When the "not guilty" verdicts were announced, there were cheers from the
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public gallery, and Charles hugged his fellow defendent.
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Charles and Peploe allegedly tortured and raped a woman last July. However,
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there was no forensic evidence to support the charges.
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Speaking to the press outside the courtroom, both Charles and Peploe called
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for changes in British law to protect the accused.
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AUTHOR JAMES HERRIOT DIES AT 78
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One of Britain's best-loved authors and the world's best-known veterinarian
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died of prostate cancer Thursday, February 23.
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"He had been ill for three years but he had borne his illness very patiently
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and bravely. His family were all with him when he died peacefully at home
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today," his grand-daughter Emma Page said.
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James Herriot began writing about his veterinary experiences in the
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Yorkshire Dales at age 50. He wrote 15 books which sold more than 50 million
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copies in 20 countries.
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His first two books, If Only They Could Talk and It Shouldn't Happen To A
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Vet were published as one volume in America under the title All Creatures
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Great and Small (1972). That was followed by All Things Bright and Beautiful
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and All Things Wise and Wonderful -- titles that were taken from a popular
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British hymn.
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He told the Daily Mail in 1981: "I was dumbfounded by the reaction to that
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first book...the most I had hoped for was that someone would publish it and
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a few people quite enjoy reading it."
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James Alfred Wight was born on October 13, 1916 and grew up in Glasgow. He
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trained at Glasgow Veterinary College, and arrived in Thirsk in 1940 for the
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position at Skeldale House that is now so famous.
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He was made an OBE, officer of the Order of the British Empire, in 1979.
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He is survived by his wife, Joan, their son, James (who runs the veterinary
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practice), their daughter, Rose Page, and four grandchildren.
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"I wouldn't give up being a vet if I had a million pounds. I'm too fond of
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animals." -- James "Herriot" Wight, Oct. 16 1916 - Feb. 23, 1995.
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COME BACK STEPHEN ...
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Overly stressed workaholic or overly sensitive showbiz Luvvy? Opinion is
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divided on what has caused the recent "disappearance" of comedy star Stephen
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Fry.
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After quitting the West End play Cell Mates and dropping completely out of
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sight for several days, Fry finally faxed his agent on Friday (3/24). In
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this message, Fry said that his recent actions were caused by stage fright
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and that his desire was to "slink away" rather than cause a scene in public.
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Unfortunately the ploy didn't work. He has indeed caused a public stir as
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concerned friends, fans, and family worry about his mental state.
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The episode began soon after Fry opened alongside his longtime friend and
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colleague Rik Mayall in Simon Gray's play, Cell Mates, at London's Albery
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Theatre. Though Mayall was generally praised by critics for his performance,
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Fry was not treated so kindly. A critic from the Financial Times said: "Fry
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is the all-time facade: so damnably English on the one hand and perplexingly
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inexpressive on the other. Watching a facade, however, is not a lot of fun."
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There are those who believe that this harsh treatment from the critics is
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what caused him to quit the play after only three performances (he has been
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replaced by Simon Ward) and flee the country. His specific whereabouts
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remain a mystery but various reports have surfaced that he simply hopped the
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ferry to France just to get away from it all.
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If that is indeed the truth, the break is well-deserved and chances are good
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that he is simply suffering from battle fatigue and overwork. Looking back
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on it, his output over the last few years has been astonishing. He has done
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several seasons of A Bit of Fry and Laurie with his partner, Hugh Laurie, as
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well as played the unflappable butler Jeeves to Laurie's Wooster in the
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successful adaptation of the P.G. Wodehouse Jeeves and Wooster novels.
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As if that weren't enough, he has starred in the movie Peter's Friends,
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played Meg Ryan's fiance in I.Q., published two novels (The Liar and The
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Hippopotamus) plus a collection of essays called Paperweight. He has also
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been a tireless crusader in the fight against AIDS, being one of the main
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forces behind the "Hysteria" benefits to help the Terrence Higgins Trust
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continue their work against this dreaded disease.
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The 37-year old Fry concluded his fax by saying that his disappearance was
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caused by "not so much a nervous breakdown, more a nervous stalling. I'm a
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silly old fool and don't deserve this attention."
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His fans around the world would certainly disagree with that last statement.
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We here at Britcomedy Digest would like to add our support and best wishes.
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Come back soon, Stephen. But only when you're ready.
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PAUL MERTON AND CAROLINE QUENTIN PLAY HOUSE IN "LIVE BED SHOW"
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Paul Merton is now in the London play, Live Bed Show. And the actress who
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plays his wife? His wife, of course: Caroline Quentin.
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Merton and Quentin play "Cash" and "Maria" in this play written by new
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playwright Arthur Smith. "The Observer Review" describes the play as
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focusing on "acute and embarrassing personal observation of domestic
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tawdriness."
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Live Bed Show, Garrick Theatre, London, 0171-494 5085; through April 29th.
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HIPPOPOTAMUS RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES
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Stephen Fry's The Hippopotamus (Random House ISBN # 0-679-43879-3) has now
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hit the shelves in the US. Fry is author of The Liar, a novel, and
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Paperweight, a collection of essays. (The Hippopotamus in major bookstores
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across the U.S., $22.00 hardcover.)
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ALL WOMEN, ALL THE TIME
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The Women's Television Network was launched in Canada January 1, 1995. Its
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mandate: to show various topics from a "woman's perspective." WTN is
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currently airing a variety of Britcoms featuring -- wait for it -- women.
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This daring move includes French and Saunders, and Girls on Top in their
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scheduling.
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COMEDIANS IN DRAMATIC ROLES IN "HEROES AND VILLAINS"
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Rowan Atkinson, Jennifer Saunders, and Jim Broadbent were cast in starring
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roles in the three-part series Heroes and Villains for BBC1. The idea behind
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the series is to tell the tale of three extraordinary lives -- that of Lady
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Hester Stanhope (Saunders), an eccentric niece of William Pitt; Sir Henry
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"Tim" Birkin (Atkinson), a dashing aristocrat who was a race car driver in
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the 1920s and early '30s; and Colonel Alfred Wintle (Broadbent), who took
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part in both world wars and described the period in between them as one of
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"intense boredom."
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Atkinson is a well-known car enthusiast and has written occasional articles
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for the British Car Magazine. No wonder, then, that he chose a dramatic role
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about a man whose obesession with cars leads to his alienation from his
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father and wife. Atkinson does some of the stunts, which consisted of
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driving vintage Bentleys "not much more than 70 or 80 mph," he said.
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According to Mark Chapman, director of two of the films in the series, the
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BBC "gave us the thinnest budgets you could imagine." Could that be why
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comedians were cast in roles for which dramatic "heavy" actors would've
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demanded a high salary for?
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THE SECOND HARDEST WORKING MAN IN SHOWBUSINESS ...
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Rowan Atkinson plans to shoot two new Mr. Bean shows this year before he
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begins production on a full-length movie about this eccentric (and that's
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putting it mildly) boy/man.
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The movie will have Mr. Bean visit America. "... There will have to be other
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actors to fill in the plots and develop the character," Atkinson said.
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Newsquirks
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---------- Pixels in the press...
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TORVILL AND... BEAN?
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Jayne Torvill and "Mr. Bean" (Rowan Atkinson) are ice-skating together on
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the front cover of this week's Radio Times for "Comic Relief Red Nose Day"
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(March 17).
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There's a web site for Comic Relief
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(http://www.worldserver.pipex.com/comic.relief/), a charity event held every
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two years in the UK.
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LEAVE BRITAIN'S CHOO-CHOOS ALONE!
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Prime Minister John Major recently held a press conference on improving the
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British Railway service. He stated, "I am not content with the service we
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have had from British Rail. I want to remove them for good from the stand-up
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comedian's joke book and turn them into the envy of the world." David
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Davies, editor of Deadpan magazine, commented, "Railway jokes are old hat.
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The stand-up comics are doing so well that all their jokes are now about air
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travel."
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Editorial/Opinion Page
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We received lots of email about Alison Siegel's editorial, "The Myth of
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Cultural Quality" (vol. 1, no. 8). Here are some of the rebuttals.
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Chris Wallis, sandman@u.washington.edu:
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I just want to point out that the author fails to take into
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consideration the idea that those who claim higher quality for
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British shows because they have six episodes might be referring to
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production values, not just writing. For example, if the budget of
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Red Dwarf was spread out over 23 episodes instead of six, it would
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look incredibly shabby. Therefore there is a higher standard of
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quality of production in British shows, in the sense that quality
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is not being sacrificed for quantity.
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Responding to another point in the editorial, I don't think the
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teams of writers on American shows enable them to make more and
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better episodes. Whenever you have teams of writers, you're
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usually actively diluting the original creator's vision of what he
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or she wanted to do with the show -- a very common occurrence in
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America, where creators are nearly always forced into subservience
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by business. Can you imagine Black Adder or Red Dwarf as written
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by a BBC appointed "team"? It would probably be almost as bad as
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an American show!
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Paul Rhodes, PAULR@msmail04.liffe.com:
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OK, it's bait and I'm falling for it -- but Alison Siegel, whilst
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correctly rebutting the "British TV is better because it is"
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argument, seems to have totally missed the point as regards the
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issue of series length. She begins by questioning the "magic
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number" 6; there's nothing magical about the number 6. Indeed,
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there are historical reasons why series are usually 6 or 7
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episodes rather than 5 or 8 or 10, but this has nothing to do with
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the "quality" of the programmes.
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Alison then goes on to say, "the entertainment industry in the US
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is much stronger" without justifying the statement or even
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explaining its relevance, but I'll let that one pass as it at
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least leads her on to the real issue: that of team writing.
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Nobody is suggesting that writers' talent "dries up" after 6
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episodes a year: simply that it takes far longer to write a show
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than to watch it. The only way to have long, US-style seasons is
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to have a lot of writers working on them (I'm sure there are
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exceptions to this: some writers work faster than others!).
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Alison's contention is that a large team of writers ensures
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"consistent quality and interesting and new plots." This is on the
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face of it a reasonable point of view, and there are certainly
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examples of US comedies which have benefited from this approach
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(Cheers and M*A*S*H spring to mind), but I suggest that more
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commonly the team approach leads to formulaic writing, where each
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show becomes a gag production line. This is not the same as
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suggesting that most episodes are "fillers," although that may be
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the case on some shows.
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The unique variety and experimentation within British comedy
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arises because creative writers are allowed to do their own thing,
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developing their own ideas, rather than just thinking up funny
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lines for somebody else's characters to say. One reason this is
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possible is that the seasons are sufficiently short so that the
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broadcasters can take risks on new writers and formats. Another
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reason is that British television has a strong public service
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ethos; as opposed to the commercial domination of US TV. It is
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easy to imagine an American network making 30 episodes of
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"Blackadders" a year until the audience disappeared.
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So here's my take on the question: Firstly, they are short because
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British television is constantly experimenting with new formats
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and new talent; since this will not always pay off it makes sense
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for each experiment to be short to minimize the risk of ending up
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with a long commitment to a turkey. Secondly, they are short
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because they are generally written by individuals or small writing
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teams: this is partly a result of the experimental nature of the
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genre in the UK.
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These are generalisations, of course: there are auteurs in US TV;
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there are "production line" shows on UK TV. By their very nature,
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experimental shows do not always succeed; and by their very
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nature, team efforts will sometimes produce high-quality polished
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laughter machines.
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Brian Gunning, bgunning@cix.compulink.co.uk:
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I seem to recall an argument from the TV production side.
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This was based on the concept of TV "seasons," particularly spring
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and autumn, during which schedulers can select a series to fill a
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particular slot. Spring and autumn seem the most important as
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Christmas gets disturbed with specials, films, etc., and summer
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always seems a hodgepodge with sport appearing at the oddest
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times.
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Another factor that has to be remembered is that Britain still
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effectively only has four terrestrial TV channels (BBC 1, BBC 2,
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ITV, and Channel 4). I don't think many of the managers are
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confident enough to invest in 20 or so episodes of a series unless
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it's a soap (and even there Eldorado showed the pitfalls). If you
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release a six-part series and it proves a dog you've only lost six
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weeks to the competition (and if it's really bad you can pull it
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after three).
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If you take the view that BBC 1 and ITV are battling for the mass
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audience, they'll both continue to put out the same mixture of
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light entertainment, sport, films, soaps, drama and sitcoms which
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satisfy the "typical" TV audience that will turn the box on at
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5:30 and have it running until 11:30 PM. Almost all the innovative
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stuff starts on BBC 2 and Channel 4, both of which have much
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smaller audiences, and consequently much smaller budgets, and
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couldn't run to 20 shows anyway.
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Finally, and this is a purely subjective and personal view, I
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think the British public can be very fickle and easily bored.
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There aren't many shows that have managed to retain public
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interest over four series (remember I'm not including sitcoms)
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even with six months or more between series.
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Joy Day, JDAY@UTCVM.UTC.EDU:
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I really must object to the use in the last editorial of May to
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December as an example of a failed Britcom. The principals of May
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to December obviously care about each other without becoming
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maudlin, the humor is just risque enough to make me snigger
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without being so beyond that my 11-year-old can't view it with me,
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the characters are believable -- what's not to love?
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Britcomedy Digest welcomes contrasting views. Mail rebuttals and editorials
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to melinda@cathouse.org with the subject "EDITORIAL".
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"How To Get Ahead In A Hat"
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From the Review section of "The Observer," December 18, 1994.
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Copyright 1994 The Observer. Reprinted with permission.
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Rising comic star Alan Davies grew up watching Dave Allen on television. Now
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Dave tells Alan about hats, cuffs, shags and gags.
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Comedian Dave Allen was 29 years old in 1966 when comedian Alan Davies was
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born. An established and an upcoming comic; both admire each other's work.
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As Alan Davies says: "He is the only comedian I can remember from my
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childhood; there was no one else." Dave and Alan met for the first time at
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this summer's Edinburgh Festival. On Monday they met again at Dave Allen's
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Kensington home.
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Alan Davies (AD): It was a big thrill when you came to see me in Edinburgh.
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Dave Allen (DA): It was a smashing evening, your show was wonderful: very
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gentle, very funny and very real.
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AD: I used to do a lot more muttering to myself before I started doing
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stand-up comedy. I used to be more uptight and intense. I'm 28 so I do lots
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of routines that are for people in their twenties or early thirties. There
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are a lot of comics my age doing routines about being a small child, because
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they can still remember it pretty well, and most of the audience can too.
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What were you talking about when you were 28?
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DA: The politics of the world were fairly strong at the time -- Khrushchev,
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and Kennedy's assassination. People were more aware of world leaders, or
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maybe the world leaders weren't so grey. There was a great fear of nuclear
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war. There were little gags about weapons and money being spent on rockets
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and armies, invasions and spies, and there's the Philby thing.
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I worked in Australia with a woman called Helen Traubel, who was a very
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famous Wagnerian soprano. We used to sit around, gag and talk and chat. She
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was one of the funniest women I've ever met. I'd be talking about Ireland,
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my childhood, my education, the schools, the priests, the nuns, climbing
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trees, all the kinds of things I did as a kid, and she said to me one night,
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"Why are you out there saying the sharp, spiky one-liners, attacking the
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world? Why don't you just go out there and reminisce?"
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AD: I had a similar problem. I've been doing it six years now, but in the
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first couple of years there was pressure on comics on the London circuit to
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have news-based material, topical material, to have an opinion -- always
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left of centre. I ended up making jokes about Nigel Lawson's hair or
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something. But after a while I found it was just more fun to talk, as you
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say, to reminisce, talk about personal experiences.
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DA: When I began, comics used to wear hats. I suppose it was because
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theatres were very cold.
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AD: I was talking to Jo Brand a few weeks ago, and she said that her dad
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doesn't know much about what she does, and he said to her, "What sort of
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shows do you do, and what do you wear?" And she said, "Well, I just wear
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what I normally wear." And he said, "Do you wear a hat?" which she thought
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was the funniest thing...
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DA: Hancock wore a hat. Charlie Chester wore a hat, Max Miller wore a hat. I
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suppose there was a slight break after the war, in the early Fifties, the
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younger comedians, then weren't wearing hats.
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AD: And were the younger comics doing different kinds of material from the
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older guys, or were they still doing some of the old gags?
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DA: I think younger comics at first have to hide behind something that they
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know will probably get a laugh, rather than experiment themselves, or with
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their own material.
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AD: You can go along for ages doing the same routines and not really
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improving, and then one day you'll find some other additional element that
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makes you more relaxed. It's being more relaxed, that is the key...
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DA: And being honest, too. The audiences have changed. Audiences were
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indoctrinated for years that there were certain subjects which you couldn't
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laugh at, you couldn't talk about -- and I'm not just talking about sex.
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There was a kind of protective veil that came down over things like the
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professions. You couldn't talk about the church, and you really couldn't --
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especially on television -- talk about politicians, or the judiciary. Then
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gradually there was a breakdown: in the Sixties people began to attack
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politicians who they thought were arseholes. The word satire came into
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being, much as alternative came in, in the late Eighties.
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AD: A similar feeling of a new movement.
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DA: They're only words for the same thing. It's comedy basically, whatever
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it is. But it had more edge. Gradually people began to open up on more
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subjects, and you could talk to an audience in much more realistic terms.
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AD: Did the old comics in the hats resent that?
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DA: The old comedians used to wear their acts on their cuff. ...That was the
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rap -- off the cuff.
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AD: With everything written on it.
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DA: And they used to look at the other comedians, and if one of the
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comedians was doing one of these gags, they'd take it off the cuff. I've
|
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|
heard of comedians who had eight sets of cuffs.
|
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AD: I have a notebook in my back pocket. And it always just has headings on.
|
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|
People say to me, "Do you write your material down? Do you write it down
|
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|
word for word?" And I show them a page which'll have ten words on or
|
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|
something and say there's an hour on there. "Well how can you remember it?"
|
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|
Because I made it all up myself. And half of it's true stories anyway.
|
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DA: Well, that's what it's about. I've got bits of envelopes...
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AD: Scraps of paper.
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DA: Sometimes you haven't got anything to write on.
|
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|
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AD: It strikes me that if I try to think of other comics in their fifties,
|
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|
none of them are like you. You could bunch groups together -- gag tellers or
|
||
|
northern-club-type comics or game-show hosts. But you've never done, as far
|
||
|
as I know, a TV game show. You've never been a gag merchant.
|
||
|
|
||
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DA: I actually prefer to work on my own. I have great times with other
|
||
|
people but, for what I would call the real work, it's me and the audience.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: Do you ever wish there was an audience who didn't know who you were?
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: Yeah. I talked to Jack Benny about that years ago, when I was a young
|
||
|
comedian coming into the business. He said his ambition would be to work an
|
||
|
audience that knew nothing about him, and to see whether it was him, his
|
||
|
delivery, or his material.
|
||
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|
||
|
AD: Sometimes when you do new material it's quite surprising where the
|
||
|
laughs come.
|
||
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|
||
|
DA: This is where the audience is teaching you. Working to an audience for
|
||
|
long periods of time is like rehearsing.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: The show that you came to see in Edinburgh, that was routines I'd been
|
||
|
working on for a couple of years. One I'd thought of three or four years
|
||
|
before and then I'd done it a few times and then nothing had happened, and
|
||
|
then going through scraps of paper, like you were talking about earlier,
|
||
|
came across it, and went back to it, and found a little twist, and it became
|
||
|
one of the most popular parts of the show.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: So you're creating pictures all the time. If you only get one chance to
|
||
|
tell a story, that's the end of it. But we're lucky in that.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: It interests me with what's going through your head when you're doing
|
||
|
one of your routines, because for me, I'm always picturing... It's a bit
|
||
|
like driving a car, when you're looking 50 yards ahead all the time. I'll be
|
||
|
in the middle of a routine but quite often picturing the one that's going to
|
||
|
be next and the one that's coming after that.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: Well I used to have a mental thing in my head. I had a structure of this
|
||
|
skeleton, and I would say, right, tonight I'm going to start on the left
|
||
|
hand, and I'm going to work up, and I'll go across the shoulder, and I can
|
||
|
either go to the head or move over to the right shoulder and down to the
|
||
|
right arm. I just had a kind of structure that I could wander around inside.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: When you were developing that anecdotal style, there weren't many comics
|
||
|
doing that kind of work.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: No, there were mostly, what do you call them, gag tellers.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: How did you develop that? I've just spent the weekend in Dublin and a
|
||
|
couple of friends of mine are comics there and they were talking about how
|
||
|
there isn't a great tradition in Ireland of stand-up comedy, of gags --
|
||
|
there's more a tradition of conversation. Is that where it comes from?
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: I think so. I haven't lived in Dublin for years but conversation was
|
||
|
very important: dinner conversation, conversations in bars, or striking up
|
||
|
strange conversations with somebody at Lansdowne Road -- then you're off
|
||
|
into all sorts of rambling discourse, which needn't be hysterically funny,
|
||
|
but can be interesting and amusing.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: Are Irish people more prone to that, to following up conversations?
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: I think so. The language is different, too -- though it's the same
|
||
|
language, it's vastly different.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: There's all these little redundant bits of conversation that link the
|
||
|
sentences together -- the Irish seem to have a hundred phrases for beginning
|
||
|
and ending conversations.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: The in word at the moment with comedians over here, young comedians, is
|
||
|
"shag." Shag is very much a Dublin word. In a sense it was a substitute for
|
||
|
"fuck," but you couldn't say fuck so you'd say shag. And it was, "I shagged
|
||
|
her in the river," or, "Shag off," or, "Go and shag yourself." That was a
|
||
|
part of Dublin conversation. Now it seems people don't hump any more or fuck
|
||
|
any more or screw any more, they shag.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: It's better than "bonk."
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: "Bonk" is like a terrible machine sound, isn't it? Machines bonking in
|
||
|
the corner of a pub. Bonk is like a tennis ball hitting something.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: So do you want to do live gigs?
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: Oh yes. But what I never do is two things at the same time. If I'm
|
||
|
working on this [his Christmas TV show], I'll work on this. When I've
|
||
|
finished then I'll think about something else. It's a bit like everybody can
|
||
|
remember yesterday, and they're always talking about tomorrow, but in some
|
||
|
cases they actually miss that section that they're living through.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I want to paint or I want to go to sleep or I want to work a bit. Luckily
|
||
|
I'm in a position now I can do what I want. What I don't want to do is
|
||
|
something that's boring, because I don't have the time any more. When you're
|
||
|
30 you can be bored witless, but when you're 58 or 59 you won't have fucking
|
||
|
years to be bored, so it's very important to me to do what I want to do. I'm
|
||
|
not talking in a selfish manner, I mean regarding work.
|
||
|
|
||
|
One of the things I would say to any younger comedians, I'd say, "Face it.
|
||
|
Don't run... Don't go for everything." People become workaholics very
|
||
|
quickly, they're doing radio, they're doing television, they're doing
|
||
|
interviews, they're traveling, they're doing live shows -- Jesus Christ,
|
||
|
they're coming up everywhere.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: You find as soon as you get a little bit of a reputation -- it's just
|
||
|
starting to happen for me now, and then suddenly they are pushing you to do
|
||
|
a hundred things.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: Don't. Do what you feel. Do what you want to do.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: I mean you'll be in danger of becoming this year's thing and then in the
|
||
|
following year you're last year's thing.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: If you're a pro, you're good at what you do, you're going to be around
|
||
|
for years. This is not a pop-star profession.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: They're trying to make it a pop-star profession, though.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: Well, that's not the people who are doing it. It's all these other
|
||
|
people outside pushing other people in the directions, but they're not
|
||
|
necessarily for your benefit.
|
||
|
|
||
|
AD: Make some quick money.
|
||
|
|
||
|
DA: I say, if you can only eat one meal a day, eat a good one. Enjoy the
|
||
|
sunsets, enjoy the days. A terrible pressure is put on people to be ahead of
|
||
|
themselves, on top of themselves, churning stuff out.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Thanks to Vincent Golden for obtaining permission to reprint this article.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
"The Day Today" -- What makes this show work?
|
||
|
=============================================
|
||
|
by Barry Cronin
|
||
|
|
||
|
Usually a spoof programme will poke fun at television shows by imitating the
|
||
|
presenters or by going over the top when copying the various logos and
|
||
|
symbols attributed to that programme. The Day Today takes a more subtle
|
||
|
approach by spoofing every news programme as one.
|
||
|
|
||
|
One of the characteristics that gives the viewer that The Day Today is a
|
||
|
real news programme is the superb array of "news-type" graphics. Secondly,
|
||
|
when the headlines are read (and here is the real gem), actual footage is
|
||
|
run from real events and of real people. For instance, in one episode it
|
||
|
showed an actual headmaster going into a school surrounded by real
|
||
|
presspeople, and cameras flashing. The newscaster says: "School teacher
|
||
|
accused of using big-faced child as satellite dish." And of course, it isn't
|
||
|
read but nearly shouted, as is the craze now among newscasters.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Television loves to think it is intellectually superior to its viewers, and
|
||
|
can be very patronising when attempting to explain "complex" issues such as
|
||
|
the economy, like ITN who recently used an "inflation dragon" in one of
|
||
|
their newscasts with fire spouting forth from the dragon's mouth. This
|
||
|
ridiculous graphic was to illustrate the state of the economy in some way
|
||
|
and facilitate the viewer's understanding of the economy. It is this sort of
|
||
|
rubbish that The Day Today just pounces on and ridicules with relish to the
|
||
|
last. (The graphics they have used in the past include "inflation kidneys"
|
||
|
and the "financial cat," which really have to be seen to be believed.) As
|
||
|
newscasts are competing so much now, what with 24-hour rolling news services
|
||
|
and so-called investigative programmes, they begin to scramble over each
|
||
|
other in a bid to get viewers, with pathetic metaphors and over-the-top
|
||
|
reconstructions; again this is where The Day Today comes into its own; their
|
||
|
reporters using some of the following metaphors in their reports:
|
||
|
|
||
|
* "Night fell like a big dark thing."
|
||
|
* The sports presenter Alan Partridge describing a cyclists' race from a
|
||
|
helicopter: "and the cyclists below me look like cattle, in a mad
|
||
|
way..."
|
||
|
* Commentary given when a runner named Elliot fell on the track; "Oh no,
|
||
|
Elliot has fallen, Elliot there, no relation of course to the late
|
||
|
Denholm Elliot."
|
||
|
|
||
|
Every week features a new ident to The Day Today--some more examples:
|
||
|
|
||
|
* The Day Today - Ultra News
|
||
|
* The Day Today - games warden to the events rhino
|
||
|
* The Day Today - because fact into doubt won't go
|
||
|
* The Day Today - bringing food to the truth banquet
|
||
|
|
||
|
This programme is currently being re-broadcast here in the UK and is
|
||
|
enjoying good success. Long may it continue.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
Usenet Vox Pops
|
||
|
===============
|
||
|
Subject: Re: American AbFab rip-off
|
||
|
From: dfowler@random.ucs.mun.ca (D. Stuart Fowler)
|
||
|
|
||
|
>This Roseanne-bashing is getting really BORING!
|
||
|
|
||
|
[snip]
|
||
|
|
||
|
I agree. I have really enjoyed the 12 "Absolutely Fabulous" episodes aired
|
||
|
thus far, and greatly anticipate seeing the six new shows.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Having a US version should in no way detract from the enjoyment of the
|
||
|
original. In fact, I firmly believe that Roseanne is capable of presenting
|
||
|
an equally controversial American version of this show.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I think the main point to be made is that most people like to revere British
|
||
|
comedy in an elitist fashion. And what could destroy this facade quicker
|
||
|
than the tabloid persona of Roseanne? But see, that's it in a nutshell,
|
||
|
people chalk Roseanne up as the National Enquirer cover girl and rarely give
|
||
|
her the credit she deserves as an artist.
|
||
|
|
||
|
I am quite comfortable having Roseanne control the reigns of the American
|
||
|
"AbFab." It won't necessarily be the same show, but I have faith that it
|
||
|
will chart new ground in American comedy.
|
||
|
|
||
|
These are my opinions and I shall stick by them.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Subject: Re: First Goodies experience
|
||
|
From: Frances M. Robinson <intm5@unix.york.ac.uk>
|
||
|
|
||
|
I first discovered "The Goodies" when we were on holiday in Derbyshire. We
|
||
|
came across a village fair and on the Women's Institute stall, I came across
|
||
|
"The Goodies File" and "The Goodies' Book of Criminal Records." My parents
|
||
|
said, "Oh you'll like them, we did," so I bought the books. They are both
|
||
|
hysterically funny. One contains the music to the theme song as scribbled
|
||
|
over by them all. It really has to be read to be believed. I got a video for
|
||
|
Xmas; "The End" is great. Tim and Graeme are on "I'm Sorry, I Haven't a
|
||
|
Clue;" no series on at the moment, but it's every bit as good!
|
||
|
|
||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
|
||
|
Quote-o'-the-Month
|
||
|
==================
|
||
|
BILL: "You know, there's surprisingly little to do in this stomach..."
|
||
|
|
||
|
SHOW: The Goodies; EPISODE: The Archaeologists
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
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|
||
|
net.comedy
|
||
|
==========
|
||
|
This month, net.comedy focuses on one of the best-loved Britcoms today,
|
||
|
Black Adder.
|
||
|
|
||
|
The newsgroup alt.comedy.british.blackadder is always abuzz with Adderish
|
||
|
discussion; and for those without Usenet access there's a Black Adder
|
||
|
mailing-list. To join, send email to listserv@psuvm.psu.edu containing the
|
||
|
single line:
|
||
|
|
||
|
SUBSCRIBE BLKADR-L
|
||
|
|
||
|
First, though, check out the Black Adder FAQ, maintained by Gwen Brophy,
|
||
|
gbrophy@telerama.lm.com. Here you'll find answers to all those niggling
|
||
|
questions -- including the perennial, "Will there be a Black Adder Five?"
|
||
|
It's posted once a month to alt.comedy.british.blackadder and you can also
|
||
|
find it here:
|
||
|
|
||
|
* ftp://cathouse.org/pub/cathouse/television/black.adder/misc/FAQ
|
||
|
* http://cathouse.org/BritishComedy/Blackadder/FAQ.html
|
||
|
|
||
|
If you're dying to use one of Edmund's put-downs but can't quite remember
|
||
|
the phrasing, you have only to turn to the cathouse.org archives. This ftp
|
||
|
site contains a wealth of Black Adder information, including transcripts of
|
||
|
all the episodes and specials, an episode guide, the FAQ, and fanfiction:
|
||
|
|
||
|
* ftp://cathouse.org/pub/cathouse/television/black.adder/
|
||
|
|
||
|
Some of this material is also up on the Web at the cathouse.org British
|
||
|
Comedy Pages:
|
||
|
|
||
|
* http://cathouse.org/BritishComedy/Blackadder/
|
||
|
|
||
|
Mail news and views on "net.comedy" to James Kew, j.kew@ic.ac.uk.
|
||
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
||
|
ETC.
|
||
|
===
|
||
|
Brenda Sharpe, aj471@freenet.carleton.ca maintains the "RUMPOLE OF THE
|
||
|
BAILEY FAQ" for those die-hard fans who subscribe to alt.fan.rumpole.
|
||
|
|
||
|
* http://www.cs.umbc.edu/~schott/rumpole/
|
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* ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/media/tv/collections/tardis/uk/drama/RumpoleOfTheBailey/RumpoleOfTheBailey-FAQ
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* http://cathouse.org/BritishComedy/CarryOnFilms/FAQ.html
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Jeffrey Rice, jrice@pomona.edu, has created an "ARE YOU BEING SERVED?" Home
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Page. He needs a fellow fan to produce a .gif of the "Grace Brothers" logo
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to make it complete. Please email him if you can help.
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* http://humphries.pomona.claremont.edu/comedy.html
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The editor wishes to shamelessly plug "BOOKS FOR THE AVID BRITCOMEDY FAN,"
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posted monthly to alt.comedy.british. Also at:
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* http://cathouse.org/BritishComedy/Info/Booklist.html
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There's a new P.G. Wodehouse FAQ -- "The Junior Ganymede Club Book,"
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maintained by Susan Collicott, susan@pmel.noaa.gov. Posted to
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alt.fan.wodehouse. Also available via anonymous FTP:
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* ftp://ickenham.isu.edu/pub/PGW-FAQ
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Spam, spam, spam, spam -- Tired of reading spams on the net? Take a look at
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Axel Boldt's "BLACKLIST OF INTERNET ADVERTISERS." The "fan mail" he receives
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is quite amusing. Posted to news.answers.
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* http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html
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monthly to alt.comedy.british and rec.arts.tv.uk.
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DELPHI
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"UK-American Connexion" forum, cf171
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GENIE
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* ftp://ftp.etext.org/pub/Zines/BritComedy
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