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SOPHIST
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by Plato
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translated by Benjamin Jowett
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SOPHIST
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PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: THEODORUS; THEAETETUS; SOCRATES An ELEATIC.
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STRANGER, whom Theodorus and Theaetetus bring with them.
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The younger SOCRATES, who is a silent auditor.
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Theodorus. Here we are, Socrates, true to our agreement of
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yesterday; and we bring with us a stranger from Elea, who is a
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disciple of Parmenides and Zeno, and a true philosopher.
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Socrates. Is he not rather a god, Theodorus, who comes to us in
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the disguise of a stranger? For Homer says that all the gods, and
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especially the god of strangers, are companions of the meek and
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just, and visit the good and evil among men. And may not your
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companion be one of those higher powers, a cross-examining deity,
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who has come to spy out our weakness in argument, and to cross-examine
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us?
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Theod. Nay, Socrates, he is not one of the disputatious sort-he is
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too good for that. And, in my opinion, he is not a god at all; but
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divine he certainly is, for this is a title which I should give to all
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philosophers.
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Soc. Capital, my friend! and I may add that they are almost as
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hard to be discerned as the gods. For the true philosophers, and
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such as are not merely made up for the occasion, appear in various
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forms unrecognized by the ignorance of men, and they "hover about
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cities," as Homer declares, looking from above upon human life; and
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some think nothing of them, and others can never think enough; and
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sometimes they appear as statesmen, and sometimes as sophists; and
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then, again, to many they seem to be no better than madmen. I should
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like to ask our Eleatic friend, if he would tell us, what is thought
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about them in Italy, and to whom the terms are applied.
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Theod. What terms?
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Soc. Sophist, statesman, philosopher.
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Theod. What is your difficulty about them, and what made you ask?
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Soc. I want to know whether by his countrymen they are regarded as
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one or two; or do they, as the names are three, distinguish also three
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kinds, and assign one to each name?
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Theod. I dare say that the Stranger will not object to discuss the
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question. What do you say, Stranger?
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Stranger. I am far from objecting, Theodorus, nor have I any
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difficulty in replying that by us they are regarded as three. But to
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define precisely the nature of each of them is by no means a slight or
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easy task.
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Theod. You have happened to light, Socrates, almost on the very
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question which we were asking our friend before we came hither, and he
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excused himself to us, as he does now you; although he admitted that
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the matter had been fully discussed, and that he remembered the
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answer.
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Soc. Then do not, Stranger, deny us the first favour which we ask of
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you: I am sure that you will not, and therefore I shall only beg of
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you to say whether you like and are accustomed to make a long
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oration on a subject which you want to explain to another, or to
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proceed by the method of question and answer. I remember hearing a
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very noble discussion in which Parmenides employed the latter of the
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two methods, when I was a young man, and he was far advanced in years.
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Str. I prefer to talk with another when he responds pleasantly,
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and is light in hand; if not, I would rather have my own say.
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Soc. Any one of the present company will respond kindly to you,
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and you can choose whom you like of them; I should recommend you to
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take a young person-Theaetetus, for example-unless you have a
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preference for some one else.
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Str. I feel ashamed, Socrates, being a new comer into your
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society, instead of talking a little and hearing others talk, to be
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spinning out a long soliloquy or address, as if I wanted to show
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off. For the true answer will certainly be a very long one, a great
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deal longer than might be expected from such a short and simple
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question. At the same time, I fear that I may seem rude and ungracious
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if I refuse your courteous request, especially after what you have
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said. For I certainly cannot object to your proposal, that
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Theaetetus should respond, having already conversed with him myself,
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and being recommended by you to take him.
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Theaetetus. But are you sure, Stranger, that this will be quite so
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acceptable to the rest of the company as Socrates imagines?
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Str. You hear them applauding, Theaetetus; after that, there is
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nothing more to be said. Well then, I am to argue with you, and if you
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tire of the argument, you may complain of your friends and not of me.
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Theaet. I do not think that I shall tire, and if I do, I shall get
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my friend here, young Socrates, the namesake of the elder Socrates, to
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help; he is about my own age, and my partner at the gymnasium, and
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is constantly accustomed to work with me.
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Str. Very good; you can decide about that for yourself as we
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proceed. Meanwhile you and I will begin together and enquire into
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the nature of the Sophist, first of the three: I should like you to
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make out what he is and bring him to light in a discussion; for at
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present we are only agreed about the name, but of the thing to which
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we both apply the name possibly you have one notion and I another;
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whereas we ought always to come to an understanding about the thing
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itself in terms of a definition, and not merely about the name minus
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the definition. Now the tribe of Sophists which we are investigating
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is not easily caught or defined; and the world has long ago agreed,
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that if great subjects are to be adequately treated, they must be
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studied in the lesser and easier instances of them before we proceed
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to the greatest of all. And as I know that the tribe of Sophists is
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troublesome and hard to be caught, I should recommend that we practise
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beforehand the method which is to be applied to him on some simple and
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smaller thing, unless you can suggest a better way.
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Theaet. Indeed I cannot.
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Str. Then suppose that we work out some lesser example which will be
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a pattern of the greater?
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Theaet. Good.
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Str. What is there which is well known and not great, and is yet
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as susceptible of definition as any larger thing? Shall I say an
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angler? He is familiar to all of us, and not a very interesting or
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important person.
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Theaet. He is not.
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Str. Yet I suspect that he will furnish us with the sort of
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definition and line of enquiry which we want.
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. Let us begin by asking whether he is a man having art or not
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having art, but some other power.
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Theaet. He is clearly a man of art.
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Str. And of arts there are two kinds?
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. There is agriculture, and the tending of mortal creatures,
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and the art of constructing or moulding vessels, and there is the
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art of imitation-all these may be appropriately called by a single
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name.
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Theaet. What do you mean? And what is the name?
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Str. He who brings into existence something that did not exist
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before is said to be a producer, and that which is brought into
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existence is said to be produced.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And all the arts which were just now mentioned are
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characterized by this power of producing?
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Theaet. They are.
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Str. Then let us sum them up under the name of productive or
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creative art.
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. Next follows the whole class of learning and cognition; then
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comes trade, fighting, hunting. And since none of these produces
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anything, but is only engaged in conquering by word or deed, or in
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preventing others from conquering, things which exist and have been
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already produced-in each and all of these branches there appears to be
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an art which may be called acquisitive.
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Theaet. Yes, that is the proper name.
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Str. Seeing, then, that all arts are either acquisitive or creative,
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in which class shall we place the art of the angler?
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Theaet. Clearly in the acquisitive class.
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Str. And the acquisitive may be subdivided into two parts: there
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is exchange, which is voluntary and is effected by gifts, hire,
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purchase; and the other part of acquisitive, which takes by force of
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word or deed, may be termed conquest?
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Theaet. That is implied in what has been said.
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Str. And may not conquest be again subdivided?
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Theaet. How?
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Str. Open force may; be called fighting, and secret force may have
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the general name of hunting?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And there is no reason why the art of hunting should not be
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further divided.
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Theaet. How would you make the division?
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Str. Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey.
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Theaet. Yes, if both kinds exist.
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Str. Of course they exist; but the hunting after lifeless things
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having no special name, except some sorts of diving, and other small
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matters, may be omitted; the hunting after living things may be called
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animal hunting.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And animal hunting may be truly said to have two divisions,
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land-animal hunting, which has many kinds and names, and water-animals
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hunting, or the hunting after animals who swim?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And of swimming animals, one class lives on the wing and the
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other in the water?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Fowling is the general term under which the hunting of all
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birds is included.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. The hunting of animals who live in the water has the general
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name of fishing.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And this sort of hunting may be further divided also into two
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principal kinds?
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. There is one kind which takes them in nets, another which takes
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them by a blow.
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Theaet. What do you mean, and how do you distinguish them?
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Str. As to the first kind-all that surrounds and encloses anything
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to prevent egress, may be rightly called an enclosure.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. For which reason twig baskets, casting nets, nooses, creels,
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and the like may all be termed "enclosures"?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And therefore this first kind of capture may be called by us
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capture with enclosures, or something of that sort?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. The other kind, which is practised by a blow with hooks and
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three pronged spears, when summed up under one name, may be called
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striking, unless you, Theaetetus, can find some better name?
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Theaet. Never mind the name-what you suggest will do very well.
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Str. There is one mode of striking, which is done at night, and by
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the light of a fire, and is by the hunters themselves called firing,
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or spearing by firelight.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And the fishing by day is called by the general name of barbing
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because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
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Theaet. Yes, that is the term.
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Str. Of this barb-fishing, that which strikes the fish Who is
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below from above is called spearing, because this is the way in
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which the three-pronged spears are mostly used.
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Theaet. Yes, it is often called so.
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Str. Then now there is only one kind remaining.
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Theaet. What is that?
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Str. When a hook is used, and the fish is not struck in any chance
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part of his body-he as be is with the spear, but only about the head
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and mouth, and is then drawn out from below upwards with reeds and
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rods:-What is the right name of that mode of fish, Theaetetus?
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Theaet. I suspect that we have now discovered the object of our
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search.
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Str. Then now you and I have come to an understanding not only about
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the name of the angler's art, but about the definition of the thing
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itself. One half of all art was acquisitive-half of all the art
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acquisitive art was conquest or taking by force, half of this was
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hunting, and half of hunting was hunting animals, half of this was
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hunting water animals-of this again, the under half was fishing,
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half of fishing was striking; a part of striking was fishing with a
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barb, and one half of this again, being the kind which strikes with
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a hook and draws the fish from below upwards, is the art which we have
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been seeking, and which from the nature of the operation is denoted
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angling or drawing up (aspalienutike, anaspasthai).
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Theaet. The result has been quite satisfactorily brought out.
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Str. And now, following this pattern, let us endeavour to find out
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what a Sophist is.
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Theaet. By all means.
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Str. The first question about the angler was, whether he was a
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skilled artist or unskilled?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And shall we call our new friend unskilled, or a thorough
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master of his craft?
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Theaet. Certainly not unskilled, for his name, as, indeed, you
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imply, must surely express his nature.
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Str. Then he must be supposed to have some art.
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Theaet. What art?
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Str. By heaven, they are cousins! it never occurred to us.
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Theaet. Who are cousins?
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Str. The angler and the Sophist.
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Theaet. In what way are they related?
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Str. They both appear to me to be hunters.
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Theaet. How the Sophist? Of the other we have spoken.
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Str. You remember our division of hunting, into hunting after
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swimming animals and land animals?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And you remember that we subdivided the swimming and left the
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land animals, saying that there were many kinds of them?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Thus far, then, the Sophist and the angler, starting from the
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art of acquiring, take the same road?
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Theaet. So it would appear.
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Str. Their paths diverge when they reach the art of animal
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hunting; the one going to the seashore, and to the rivers and to the
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lakes, and angling for the animals which are in them.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. While the other goes to land and water of another sort-rivers
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of wealth and broad meadow-lands of generous youth; and he also is
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intending to take the animals which are in them.
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Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. Of hunting on land there are two principal divisions.
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. One is the hunting of tame, and the other of wild animals.
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Theaet. But are tame animals ever hunted?
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Str. Yes, if you include man under tame animals. But if you like you
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may say that there are no tame animals, or that, if there are, man
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is not among them; or you may say that man is a tame animal but is not
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hunted-you shall decide which of these alternatives you prefer.
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Theaet. I should say, Stranger, that man is a tame animal, and I
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admit that he is hunted.
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Str. Then let us divide the hunting of tame animals into two parts.
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Theaet. How shall we make the division?
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Str. Let us define piracy, man-stealing, tyranny, the whole military
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art, by one name, as hunting with violence.
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. But the art of the lawyer, of the popular orator, and the art
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of conversation may be called in one word the art of persuasion.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And of persuasion, there may be said to be two kinds?
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. One is private, and the other public.
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Theaet. Yes; each of them forms a class.
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Str. And of private hunting, one sort receives hire, and the other
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brings gifts.
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Theaet. I do not understand you.
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Str. You seem never to have observed the manner in which lovers
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hunt.
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Theaet. To what do you refer?
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Str. I mean that they lavish gifts on those whom they hunt in
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addition to other inducements.
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Theaet. Most true.
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Str. Let us admit this, then, to be the amatory art.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. But that sort of hireling whose conversation is pleasing and
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who baits his hook only with pleasure and exacts nothing but his
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maintenance in return, we should all, if I am not mistaken, describe
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as possessing flattery or an art of making things pleasant.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And that sort, which professes to form acquaintances only for
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the sake of virtue, and demands a reward in the shape of money, may be
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fairly called by another name?
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Theaet. To be sure.
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Str. And what is the name? Will you tell me?
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Theaet. It is obvious enough; for I believe that we have
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discovered the Sophist: which is, as I conceive, the proper name for
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the class described.
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Str. Then now, Theaetetus, his art may be traced as a branch of
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the appropriative, acquisitive family-which hunts
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animals,-living-land-tame animals; which hunts man,-privately-for
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hire,-taking money in exchange-having the semblance of education;
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and this is termed Sophistry, and is a hunt after young men of
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wealth and rank-such is the conclusion.
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Theaet. Just so.
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Str. Let us take another branch of his genealogy; for he is a
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professor of a great and many sided art; and if we look back at what
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has preceded we see that he presents another aspect, besides that of
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which we are speaking.
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Theaet. In what respect?
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Str. There were two sorts of acquisitive art; the one concerned with
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hunting, the other with exchange.
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Theaet. There were.
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Str. And of the art of exchange there are two divisions, the one
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of giving, and the other of selling.
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Theaet. Let us assume that.
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Str. Next, will suppose the art of selling to be divided into two
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parts.
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Theaet. How?
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Str. There is one part which is distinguished as the sale of a man's
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own productions; another, which is the exchange of the works of
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others.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And is not that part of exchange which takes place in the city,
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being about half of the whole, termed retailing?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And that which exchanges the goods of one city for those of
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another by selling and buying is the exchange of the merchant?
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Theaet. To be sure.
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Str. And you are aware that this exchange of the merchant is of
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two kinds: it is partly concerned with food for the use of the body,
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and partly with the food of the soul which is bartered and received in
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exchange for money.
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Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. You want to know what is the meaning of food for the soul;
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the other kind you surely understand.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. Take music in general and painting and marionette playing and
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many other things, which are purchased in one city, and carried away
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and sold in another-wares of the soul which are hawked about either
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for the sake of instruction or amusement;-may not he who takes them
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about and sells them be quite as truly called a merchant as he who
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sells meats and drinks?
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Theaet. To be sure he may.
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Str. And would you not call by the same name him who buys up
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knowledge and goes about from city to city exchanging his wares for
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money?
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Theaet. Certainly I should.
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Str. Of this merchandise of the soul, may not one part be fairly
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termed the art of display? And there is another part which is
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certainly not less ridiculous, but being a trade in learning must be
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called by some name germane to the matter?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. The latter should have two names,-one descriptive of the sale
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of the knowledge of virtue, and the other of the sale of other kinds
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of knowledge.
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Theaet. Of course.
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Str. The name of art-seller corresponds well enough to the latter;
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but you must try and tell me the name of the other.
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Theaet. He must be the Sophist, whom we are seeking; no other name
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can possibly be right.
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Str. No other; and so this trader in virtue again turns out to be
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our friend the Sophist, whose art may now be traced from the art of
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acquisition through exchange, trade, merchandise, to a merchandise
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of the soul which is concerned with speech and the knowledge of
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virtue.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. And there may be a third reappearance of him;-for he may have
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settled down in a city, and may fabricate as well as buy these same
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wares, intending to live by selling them, and he would still be called
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a Sophist?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Then that part of acquisitive art which exchanges, and of
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exchange which either sells a man's own productions or retails those
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of others; as the case may be, and in either way sells the knowledge
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of virtue, you would again term Sophistry?
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Theaet. I must, if I am to keep pace with the argument.
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Str. Let us consider once more whether there may not be yet
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another aspect of sophistry.
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Theaet. What is it?
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Str. In the acquisitive there was a subdivision of the combative
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or fighting art.
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Theaet. There was.
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Str. Perhaps we had better divide it.
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Theaet. What shall be the divisions?
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Str. There shall be one division of the competitive, and another
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of the pugnacious.
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. That part of the pugnacious which is contest of bodily strength
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may be properly called by some such name as violent.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And when the war is one of words, it may be termed controversy?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And controversy may be of two kinds.
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. When long speeches are answered by long speeches, and there
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is public discussion about the just and unjust, that is forensic
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controversy.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And there is a private sort of controversy, which is cut up
|
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into questions and answers, and this is commonly called disputation?
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Theaet. Yes, that is the name.
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Str. And of disputation, that sort which is only a discussion
|
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|
about contracts, and is carried on at random, and without rules-art,
|
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|
is recognized by the reasoning faculty to be a distinct class, but has
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hitherto had no distinctive name, and does not deserve to receive
|
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one from us.
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Theaet. No; for the different sorts of it are too minute and
|
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heterogeneous.
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Str. But that which proceeds by rules of art to dispute about
|
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justice and injustice in their own nature, and about things in
|
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|
general, we have been accustomed to call argumentation (Eristic)?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And of argumentation, one sort wastes money, and the other
|
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makes money.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. Suppose we try and give to each of these two classes a name.
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Theaet. Let us do so.
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Str. I should say that the habit which leads a man to neglect his
|
||
|
own affairs for the pleasure of conversation, of which the style is
|
||
|
far from being agreeable to the majority of his hearers, may be fairly
|
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|
termed loquacity: such is my opinion.
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Theaet. That is the common name for it.
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Str. But now who the other is, who makes money out of private
|
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|
disputation, it is your turn to say.
|
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|
Theaet. There is only one true answer: he is the wonderful
|
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|
Sophist, of whom we are in pursuit, and who reappears again for the
|
||
|
fourth time.
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|
Str. Yes, and with a fresh pedigree, for he is the money-making
|
||
|
species of the Eristic, disputatious, controversial. pugnacious,
|
||
|
combative, acquisitive family, as the argument has already proven.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
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|
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|
Str. How true was the observation that he was a many-sided animal,
|
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|
and not to be caught with one hand, as they say!
|
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Theaet. Then you must catch him with two.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Yes, we must, if we can. And therefore let us try, another
|
||
|
track in our pursuit of him: You are aware that there are certain
|
||
|
menial occupations which have names among servants?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, there are many such; which of them do you mean?
|
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Str. I mean such as sifting, straining, winnowing, threshing.
|
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|
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|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
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|
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|
Str. And besides these there are a great many more, such as carding,
|
||
|
spinning, adjusting the warp and the woof; and thousands of similar
|
||
|
expressions are used in the arts.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. Of what are they to be patterns, and what are we going to do
|
||
|
with them all?
|
||
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|
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|
Str. I think that in all of these there is implied a notion of
|
||
|
division.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Then if, as I was saying, there is one art which includes all
|
||
|
of them, ought not that art to have one name?
|
||
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|
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|
Theaes. And what is the name of the art?
|
||
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|
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|
Str. The art of discerning or discriminating.
|
||
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|
Theaet. Very good.
|
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|
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|
Str. Think whether you cannot divide this.
|
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|
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|
Theaet. I should have to think a long while.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. In all the previously named processes either like has been
|
||
|
separated from like or the better from the worse.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. I see now what you mean.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str, There is no name for the first kind of separation; of the
|
||
|
second, which throws away the worse and preserves the better, I do
|
||
|
know a name.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is it?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Every discernment or discrimination of that kind, as I have
|
||
|
observed, is called a purification.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, that is the usual expression.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And any one may see that purification is of two kinds.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Perhaps so, if he were allowed time to think; but I do not
|
||
|
see at this moment.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There are many purifications of bodies which may with propriety
|
||
|
be comprehended under a single name.
|
||
|
|
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|
Theaet. What are they, and what is their name?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. There is the purification of living bodies in their inward
|
||
|
and in their outward parts, of which the former is duly effected by
|
||
|
medicine and gymnastic, the latter by the not very dignified art of
|
||
|
the bath-man; and there is the purification of inanimate substances-to
|
||
|
this the arts of fulling and of furbishing in general attend in a
|
||
|
number of minute particulars, having a variety of names which are
|
||
|
thought ridiculous.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Very true.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There can be no doubt that they are thought ridiculous,
|
||
|
Theaetetus; but then the dialectical art never considers whether the
|
||
|
benefit to be derived from the purge is greater or less than that to
|
||
|
be derived from the sponge, and has not more interest in the one
|
||
|
than in the other; her endeavour is to know what is and is not kindred
|
||
|
in all arts, with a view to the acquisition of intelligence; and
|
||
|
having this in view, she honours them all alike, and when she makes
|
||
|
comparisons, she counts one of them not a whit more ridiculous than
|
||
|
another; nor does she esteem him who adduces as his example of
|
||
|
hunting, the general's art, at all more decorous than another who
|
||
|
cites that of the vermin-destroyer, but only as the greater
|
||
|
pretender of the two. And as to your question concerning the name
|
||
|
which was to comprehend all these arts of purification, whether of
|
||
|
animate or inanimate bodies, the art of dialectic is in no wise
|
||
|
particular about fine words, if she maybe only allowed to have a
|
||
|
general name for all other purifications, binding them up together and
|
||
|
separating them off from the purification of the soul or intellect.
|
||
|
For this is the purification at which she wants to arrive, and this we
|
||
|
should understand to be her aim.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, I understand; and I agree that there are two sorts of
|
||
|
purification and that one of them is concerned with the soul, and that
|
||
|
there is another which is concerned with the body.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Excellent; and now listen to what I am going to say, and try to
|
||
|
divide further the first of the two.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Whatever line of division you suggest, I will endeavour to
|
||
|
assist you.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Do we admit that virtue is distinct from vice in the soul?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And purification was to leave the good and to cast out whatever
|
||
|
is bad?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then any taking away of evil from the soul may be properly
|
||
|
called purification?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And in the soul there are two kinds of evil.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What are they?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. The one may be compared to disease in the body, the other to
|
||
|
deformity.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. I do not understand.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Perhaps you have never reflected that disease and discord are
|
||
|
the same.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. To this, again, I know not what I should reply.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Do you not conceive discord to be a dissolution of kindred
|
||
|
clements, originating in some disagreement?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Just that.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And is deformity anything but the want of measure, which is
|
||
|
always unsightly?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Exactly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And do we not see that opinion is opposed to desire, pleasure
|
||
|
to anger, reason to pain, and that all these elements are opposed to
|
||
|
one another in the souls of bad men?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And yet they must all be akin?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then we shall be right in calling vice a discord and disease of
|
||
|
the soul?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Most true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And when things having motion, an aiming at an appointed
|
||
|
mark, continually miss their aim and glance aside, shall we say that
|
||
|
this is the effect of symmetry among them, or of the want of symmetry?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Clearly of the want of symmetry.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But surely we know that no soul is voluntarily ignorant of
|
||
|
anything?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly not.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And what is ignorance but the aberration of a mind which is
|
||
|
bent on truth, and in which the process of understanding is perverted?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then we are to regard an unintelligent soul as deformed and
|
||
|
devoid of symmetry?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Very true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then there are these two kinds of evil in the soul-the one
|
||
|
which is generally called vice, and is obviously a disease of the
|
||
|
soul...
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And there is the other, which they call ignorance, and which,
|
||
|
because existing only in the soul, they will not allow to be vice.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. I certainly admit what I at first disputed-that there are
|
||
|
two kinds of vice in the soul, and that we ought to consider
|
||
|
cowardice, intemperance, and injustice to be alike forms of disease in
|
||
|
the soul, and ignorance, of which there are all sorts of varieties, to
|
||
|
be deformity.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And in the case of the body are there not two arts, which
|
||
|
have to do with the two bodily states?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What are they?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. There is gymnastic, which has to do with deformity, and
|
||
|
medicine, which has to do with disease.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And where there is insolence and injustice and cowardice, is
|
||
|
not chastisement the art which is most required?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. That certainly appears to be the opinion of mankind.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Again, of the various kinds of ignorance, may not instruction
|
||
|
be rightly said to be the remedy?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And of the art of instruction, shall we say that there is one
|
||
|
or many kinds? At any rate there are two principal ones. Think.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. I will.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. I believe that I can see how we shall soonest arrive at the
|
||
|
answer to this question.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. If we can discover a line which divides ignorance into two
|
||
|
halves. For a division of ignorance into two parts will certainly
|
||
|
imply that the art of instruction is also twofold, answering to the
|
||
|
two divisions of ignorance.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Well, and do you see what you are looking for?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I do seem to myself to see one very large and bad sort of
|
||
|
ignorance which is quite separate, and may be weighed in the scale
|
||
|
against all other sorts of ignorance put together.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is it?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. When a person supposes that he knows, and does not know this
|
||
|
appears to be the great source of all the errors of the intellect.
|
||
|
|
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And this, if I am not mistaken, is the kind of ignorance
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which specially earns the title of stupidity.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. What name, then, shall be given to the sort of instruction
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which gets rid of this?
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Theaet. The instruction which you mean, Stranger, is, I should
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imagine, not the teaching of handicraft arts, but what, thanks to
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us, has been termed education in this part the world.
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Str. Yes, Theaetetus, and by nearly all Hellenes. But we have
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still to consider whether education admits of any further division.
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Theaet. We have.
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Str. I think that there is a point at which such a division is
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possible.
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Theaet. Where?
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Str. Of education, one method appears to be rougher, and another
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smoother.
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Theaet. How are we to distinguish the two?
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Str. There is the time-honoured mode which our fathers commonly
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practised towards their sons, and which is still adopted by
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many-either of roughly reproving their errors, or of gently advising
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them; which varieties may be correctly included under the general term
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of admonition.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. But whereas some appear to have arrived at the conclusion
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that all ignorance is involuntary, and that no one who thinks
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himself wise is willing to learn any of those things in which he is
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conscious of his own cleverness, and that the admonitory sort of
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instruction gives much trouble and does little good-
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Theaet. There they are quite right.
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Str. Accordingly, they set to work to eradicate the spirit of
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conceit in another way.
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Theaet. In what way?
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Str. They cross-examine a man's words, when he thinks that he is
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saying something and is really saying nothing, and easily convict
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him of inconsistencies in his opinions; these they then collect by the
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dialectical process, and placing them side by side, show that they
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contradict one another about the same things, in relation to the
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same things, and in the same respect. He, seeing this, is angry with
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himself, and grows gentle towards others, and thus is entirely
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delivered from great prejudices and harsh notions, in a way which is
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most amusing to the hearer, and produces the most lasting good
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effect on the person who is the subject of the operation. For as the
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physician considers that the body will receive no benefit from
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taking food until the internal obstacles have been removed, so the
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purifier of the soul is conscious that his patient will receive no
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benefit from the application of knowledge until he is refuted, and
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from refutation learns modesty; he must be purged of his prejudices
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first and made to think that he knows only what he knows, and no more.
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Theaet. That is certainly the best and wisest state of mind.
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Str. For all these reasons, Theaetetus, we must admit that
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refutation is the greatest and chiefest of purifications, and he who
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has not been refuted, though he be the Great King himself, is in an
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awful state of impurity; he is uninstructed and deformed in those
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things in which he who would be truly blessed ought to be fairest
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and purest.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. And who are the ministers of this art?
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I am afraid to say the Sophists.
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Theaet. Why?
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Str. Lest we should assign to them too high a prerogative.
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Theaet. Yet the Sophist has a certain likeness to our minister of
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purification.
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Str. Yes, the same sort of likeness which a wolf, who is the
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fiercest of animals, has to a dog, who is the gentlest. But he who
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would not be found tripping, ought to be very careful in this matter
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of comparisons, for they are most slippery things. Nevertheless, let
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us assume that the Sophists are the men. I say this provisionally, for
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I think that the line which divides them will be marked enough if
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proper care is taken.
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Theaet. Likely enough.
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Str. Let us grant, then, that from the discerning art comes
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purification, and from purification let there be separated off a
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part which is concerned with the soul; of this mental purification
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instruction is a portion, and of instruction education, and of
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education, that refutation of vain conceit which has been discovered
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in the present argument; and let this be called by you and me the
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nobly-descended art of Sophistry.
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Theaet. Very well; and yet, considering the number of forms in which
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he has presented himself, I begin to doubt how I can with any truth or
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confidence describe the real nature of the Sophist.
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Str. You naturally feel perplexed; and yet I think that he must be
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still more perplexed in his attempt to escape us, for as the proverb
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says, when every way is blocked, there is no escape; now, then, is the
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time of all others to set upon him.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. First let us wait a moment and recover breath, and while we are
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resting, we may reckon up in how many forms he has appeared. In the
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first place, he was discovered to be a paid hunter after wealth and
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youth.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. In the second place, he was a merchant in the goods of the
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soul.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. In the third place, he has turned out to be a retailer of the
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same sort of wares.
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Theaet. Yes; and in the fourth place, he himself manufactured the
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learned wares which he sold.
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Str. Quite right; I will try and remember the fifth myself. He
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belonged to the fighting class, and was further distinguished as a
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hero of debate, who professed the eristic art.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. The sixth point was doubtful, and yet we at last agreed that he
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was a purger of souls, who cleared away notions obstructive to
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knowledge.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. Do you not see that when the professor of any art has one
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name and many kinds of knowledge, there must be something wrong? The
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multiplicity of names which is applied to him shows that the common
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principle to which all these branches of knowledge are tending, is not
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understood.
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Theaet. I should imagine this to be the case.
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Str. At any rate we will understand him, and no indolence shall
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prevent us. Let us begin again, then, and re-examine some of our
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|
statements concerning the Sophist; there was one thing which
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appeared to me especially characteristic of him.
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Theaet. To what are you referring?
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Str. We were saying of him, if I am not mistaken, that he was a
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disputer?
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Theaet. We were.
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Str. And does he not also teach others the art of disputation?
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Theaet. Certainly he does.
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Str. And about what does he profess that he teaches men to
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dispute? To begin at the beginning-Does he make them able to dispute
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about divine things, which are invisible to men in general?
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Theaet. At any rate, he is said to do so.
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Str. And what do you say of the visible things in heaven and
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|
earth, and the like?
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Theaet. Certainly he disputes, and teaches to dispute about them.
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Str. Then, again, in private conversation, when any universal
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|
assertion is made about generation and essence, we know that such
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|
persons are tremendous argufiers, and are able to impart their own
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|
skill to others.
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Theaet. Undoubtedly.
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Str. And do they not profess to make men able to dispute about law
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|
and about politics in general?
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Theaet. Why, no one would have anything to say to them, if they
|
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|
did not make these professions.
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|
Str. In all and every art, what the craftsman ought to say in answer
|
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|
to any question is written down in a popular form, and he who likes
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|
may learn.
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|
Theaet. I suppose that you are referring to the precepts of
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|
Protagoras about wrestling and the other arts?
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Str. Yes, my friend, and about a good many other things. In a
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|
word, is not the art of disputation a power of disputing about all
|
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|
things?
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Theaet. Certainly; there does not seem to be much which is left out.
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Str. But oh! my dear youth, do you suppose this possible? for
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|
perhaps your young eyes may see things which to our duller sight do
|
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|
not appear.
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|
Theaet. To what are you alluding? I do not think that I understand
|
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|
your present question.
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Str. I ask whether anybody can understand all things.
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Theaet. Happy would mankind be if such a thing were possible!
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Soc. But how can any one who is ignorant dispute in a rational
|
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|
manner against him who knows?
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Theaet. He cannot.
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|
Str. Then why has the sophistical art such a mysterious power?
|
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|
Theaet. To what do you refer?
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||
|
Str. How do the Sophists make young men believe in their supreme and
|
||
|
universal wisdom? For if they neither disputed nor were thought to
|
||
|
dispute rightly, or being thought to do so were deemed no wiser for
|
||
|
their controversial skill, then, to quote your own observation, no one
|
||
|
would give them money or be willing to learn their art.
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|
Theaet. They certainly would not.
|
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|
Str. But they are willing.
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|
Theaet. Yes, they are.
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|
Str. Yes, and the reason, as I should imagine, is that they are
|
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|
supposed to have knowledge of those things about which they dispute?
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|
Theaet. Certainly.
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|
Str. And they dispute about all things?
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|
Theaet. True.
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|
Str. And therefore, to their disciples, they appear to be all-wise?
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|
Theaet. Certainly.
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|
Str. But they are not; for that was shown to be impossible.
|
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|
Theaet. Impossible, of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then the Sophist has been shown to have a sort of conjectural
|
||
|
or apparent knowledge only of all things, which is not the truth?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Exactly; no better description of him could be given.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let us now take an illustration, which will still more
|
||
|
clearly explain his nature.
|
||
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||
|
Theaet. What is it?
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|
||
|
Str. I will tell you, and you shall answer me, giving your very
|
||
|
closest attention. Suppose that a person were to profess, not that
|
||
|
he could speak or dispute, but that he knew how to make and do all
|
||
|
things, by a single art.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. All things?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. I see that you do not understand the first word that I utter,
|
||
|
for you do not understand the meaning of "all."
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. No, I do not.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Under all things, I include you and me, and also animals and
|
||
|
trees.
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|
||
|
Theaet. What do you mean?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Suppose a person to say that he will make you and me, and all
|
||
|
creatures.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. What would he mean by "making"? He cannot be a
|
||
|
husbandman;-for you said that he is a maker of animals.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Yes; and I say that he is also the maker of the sea, and the
|
||
|
earth, and the heavens, and the gods, and of all other things; and,
|
||
|
further, that he can make them in no time, and sell them for a few
|
||
|
pence.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. That must be a jest.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And when a man says that he knows all things, and can teach
|
||
|
them to another at a small cost, and in a short time, is not that a
|
||
|
jest?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And is there any more artistic or graceful form of jest than
|
||
|
imitation?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly not; and imitation is a very comprehensive term,
|
||
|
which includes under one class the most diverse sorts of things.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. We know, of course, that he who professes by one art to make
|
||
|
all things is really a painter, and by the painter's art makes
|
||
|
resemblances of real things which have the same name with them; and he
|
||
|
can deceive the less intelligent sort of young children, to whom he
|
||
|
shows his pictures at a distance, into the belief that he has the
|
||
|
absolute power of making whatever he likes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And may there not be supposed to be an imitative art of
|
||
|
reasoning? Is it not possible to enchant the hearts of young men by
|
||
|
words poured through their ears, when they are still at a distance
|
||
|
from the truth of facts, by exhibiting to them fictitious arguments,
|
||
|
and making them think that they are true, and that the speaker is
|
||
|
the wisest of men in all things?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes; why should there not be another such art?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But as time goes on, and their hearers advance in years, and
|
||
|
come into closer contact with realities, and have learnt by sad
|
||
|
experience to see and feel the truth of things, are not the greater
|
||
|
part of them compelled to change many opinions which they formerly
|
||
|
entertained, so that the great appears small to them, and the easy
|
||
|
difficult, and all their dreamy speculations are overturned by the
|
||
|
facts of life?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. That is my view, as far as I can judge, although, at my age,
|
||
|
I may be one of those who see things at a distance only.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And the wish of all of us, who are your friends, is and
|
||
|
always will be to bring you as near to the truth as we can without the
|
||
|
sad reality. And now I should like you to tell me, whether the Sophist
|
||
|
is not visibly a magician and imitator of true being; or are we
|
||
|
still disposed to think that he may have a true knowledge of the
|
||
|
various matters about which he disputes?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. But how can he, Stranger? Is there any doubt, after what has
|
||
|
been said, that he is to be located in one of the divisions of
|
||
|
children's play?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then we must place him in the class of magicians and mimics.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly we must.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And now our business is not to let the animal out, for we
|
||
|
have got him in a sort of dialectical net, and there is one thing
|
||
|
which he decidedly will not escape.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is that?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. The inference that he is a juggler.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Precisely my own opinion of him.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, clearly, we ought as soon as possible to divide the
|
||
|
image-making art, and go down into the net, and, if the Sophist does
|
||
|
not run away from us, to seize him according to orders and deliver him
|
||
|
over to reason, who is the lord of the hunt, and proclaim the
|
||
|
capture of him; and if he creeps into the recesses of the imitative
|
||
|
art, and secretes himself in one of them, to divide again and follow
|
||
|
him up until in some sub-section of imitation he is caught. For our
|
||
|
method of tackling each and all is one which neither he nor any
|
||
|
other creature will ever escape in triumph.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Well said; and let us do as you propose.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Well, then, pursuing the same analytic method as before, I
|
||
|
think that I can discern two divisions of the imitative art, but I
|
||
|
am not as yet able to see in which of them the desired form is to be
|
||
|
found.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Will you tell me first what are two divisions of which you
|
||
|
are speaking?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. One is the art of likeness-making;-generally a likeness of
|
||
|
anything is made by producing a copy which is executed according to
|
||
|
the proportions of the original, similar in length and breadth and
|
||
|
depth, each thing receiving also its appropriate colour.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Is not this always the aim of imitation?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Not always; in works either of sculpture or of painting,
|
||
|
which are of any magnitude, there is a certain degree of deception;
|
||
|
-for artists were to give the true proportions of their fair works,
|
||
|
the upper part, which is farther off, would appear to be out of
|
||
|
proportion in comparison with the lower, which is nearer; and so
|
||
|
they give up the truth in their images and make only the proportions
|
||
|
which appear to be beautiful, disregarding the real ones.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And that which being other is also like, may we not fairly call
|
||
|
a likeness or image?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And may we not, as I did just now, call that part of the
|
||
|
imitative art which is concerned with making such images the art of
|
||
|
likeness making?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Let that be the name.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And what shall we call those resemblances of the beautiful,
|
||
|
which appear such owing to the unfavourable position of the spectator,
|
||
|
whereas if a person had the power of getting a correct view of works
|
||
|
of such magnitude, they would appear not even like that to which
|
||
|
they profess to be like? May we not call these "appearances," since
|
||
|
they appear only and are not really like?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There is a great deal of this kind of thing in painting, and in
|
||
|
all imitation.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And may we not fairly call the sort of art, which produces an
|
||
|
appearance and not an image, phantastic art?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Most fairly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. These then are the two kinds of image making-the art of
|
||
|
making likenesses, and phantastic or the art of making appearances?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
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Str. I was doubtful before in which of them I should place the
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Sophist, nor am I even now able to see clearly; verily he is a
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wonderful and inscrutable creature. And now in the cleverest manner he
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has got into an impossible place.
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Theaet. Yes, he has.
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Str. Do you speak advisedly, or are you carried away at the moment
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by the habit of assenting into giving a hasty answer?
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Theaet. May I ask to what you are referring?
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Str. My dear friend, we are engaged in a very difficult
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speculation-there can be no doubt of that; for how a thing can
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appear and seem, and not be, or how a man can say a thing which is not
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true, has always been and still remains a very perplexing question.
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Can any one say or think that falsehood really exists, and avoid being
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caught in a contradiction? Indeed, Theaetetus, the task is a difficult
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one.
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Theaet. Why?
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Str. He who says that falsehood exists has the audacity to assert
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the being of not-being; for this is implied in the possibility of
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falsehood. But, my boy, in the days when I was a boy, the great
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Parmenides protested against this doctrine, and to the end of his life
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he continued to inculcate the same lesson-always repeating both in
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verse and out of verse:
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Keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show
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that not-being is
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Such is his testimony, which is confirmed by the very expression
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when sifted a little. Would you object to begin with the consideration
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of the words themselves?
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Theaet. Never mind about me; I am only desirous that you should
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carry on the argument in the best way, and that you should take me
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with you.
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Str. Very good; and now say, do we venture to utter the forbidden
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word "not-being"?
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Theaet. Certainly we do.
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Str. Let us be serious then, and consider the question neither in
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strife nor play: suppose that one of the hearers of Parmenides was
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asked, "To is the term 'not-being' to be applied?"-do you know what
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sort of object he would single out in reply, and what answer he
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would make to the enquirer?
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Theaet. That is a difficult question, and one not to be answered
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at all by a person like myself.
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Str. There is at any rate no difficulty in seeing that the predicate
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"not-being" is not applicable to any being.
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Theaet. None, certainly.
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Str. And if not to being, then not to something.
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Theaet. Of course not.
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Str. It is also plain, that in speaking of something we speak of
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being, for to speak of an abstract something naked and isolated from
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all being is impossible.
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Theaet. Impossible.
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Str. You mean by assenting to imply that he who says something
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must say some one thing?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. Some in the singular (ti) you would say is the sign of one,
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some in the dual (tine) of two, some in the plural (tines) of many?
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Theaet. Exactly.
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Str. Then he who says "not something" must say absolutely nothing.
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Theaet. Most assuredly.
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Str. And as we cannot admit that a man speaks and says nothing, he
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who says "not-being" does not speak at all.
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Theaet. The difficulty of the argument can no further go.
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Str. Not yet, my friend, is the time for such a word; for there
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still remains of all perplexities the first and greatest, touching the
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very foundation of the matter.
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Theaet. What do you mean? Do not be afraid to speak.
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Str. To that which is, may be attributed some other thing which is?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. But can anything which is, be attributed to that which is not?
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Theaet. Impossible.
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Str. And all number is to be reckoned among things which are?
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Theaet. Yes, surely number, if anything, has a real existence.
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Str. Then we must not attempt to attribute to not-being number
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either in the singular or plural?
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Theaet. The argument implies that we should be wrong in doing so.
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Str. But how can a man either express in words or even conceive in
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thought things which are not or a thing which is not without number?
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Theaet. How indeed?
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Str. When we speak of things which are not attributing plurality
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to not-being?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. But, on the other hand, when we say "what is not," do we not
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attribute unity?
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Theaet. Manifestly.
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Str. Nevertheless, we maintain that you may not and ought not to
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attribute being to not-being?
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Theaet. Most true.
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Str. Do you see, then, that not-being in itself can neither be
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spoken, uttered, or thought, but that it is unthinkable,
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unutterable, unspeakable, indescribable?
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. But, if so, I was wrong in telling you just now that the
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difficulty which was coming is the greatest of all.
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Theaet. What! is there a greater still behind?
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Str. Well, I am surprised, after what has been said already, that
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you do not see the difficulty in which he who would refute the
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notion of not-being is involved. For he is compelled to contradict
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himself as soon as he makes the attempt.
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Theaet. What do you mean? Speak more clearly.
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Str. Do not expect clearness from me. For I, who maintain that
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not-being has no part either in the one or many, just now spoke and am
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|
still speaking of not-being as one; for I say "not-being." Do you
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understand?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And a little while ago I said that not-being is unutterable,
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unspeakable, indescribable: do you follow?
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Theaet. I do after a fashion.
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Str. When I introduced the word "is," did I not contradict what I
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said before?
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Theaet. Clearly.
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Str. And in using the singular verb, did I not speak of not-being as
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one?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And when I spoke of not-being as indescribable and
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unspeakable and unutterable, in using each of these words in the
|
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singular, did I not refer to not-being as one?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And yet we say that, strictly speaking, it should not be
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defined as one or many, and should not even be called "it," for the
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|
use of the word "it" would imply a form of unity.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. How, then, can any one put any faith in me? For now, as always,
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I am unequal to the refutation of not-being. And therefore, as I was
|
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|
saying, do not look to me for the right way of speaking about
|
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|
not-being; but come, let us try the experiment with you.
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|
Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. Make a noble effort, as becomes youth, and endeavour with all
|
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|
your might to speak of not-being in a right manner, without
|
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|
introducing into it either existence or unity or plurality.
|
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|
Theaet. It would be a strange boldness in me which would attempt the
|
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|
task when I see you thus discomfited.
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|
Str. Say no more of ourselves; but until we find some one or other
|
||
|
who can speak of not-being without number, we must acknowledge that
|
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|
the Sophist is a clever rogue who will not be got out of his hole.
|
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|
Theaet. Most true.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. And if we say to him that he professes an art of making
|
||
|
appearances, he will grapple with us and retort our argument upon
|
||
|
ourselves; and when we call him an image-maker he will say, "Pray what
|
||
|
do you mean at all by an image?" -and I should like to know,
|
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|
Theaetetus, how we can possibly answer the younker's question?
|
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||
|
Theaet. We shall doubtless tell him of the images which are
|
||
|
reflected in water or in mirrors; also of sculptures, pictures, and
|
||
|
other duplicates.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. I see, Theaetetus, that you have never made the acquaintance of
|
||
|
the Sophist.
|
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|
|
||
|
Theaet. Why do you think so?
|
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|
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|
Str. He will make believe to have his eyes shut, or to have none.
|
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|
||
|
Theaet. What do you mean?
|
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|
||
|
Str. When you tell him of something existing in a mirror, or in
|
||
|
sculpture, and address him as though he had eyes, he will laugh you to
|
||
|
scorn, and will pretend that he knows nothing of mirrors and
|
||
|
streams, or of sight at all; he will say that he is asking about an
|
||
|
idea.
|
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|
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|
Theaet. What can he mean?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. The common notion pervading all these objects, which you
|
||
|
speak of as many, and yet call by the single name of image, as
|
||
|
though it were the unity under which they were all included. How
|
||
|
will you maintain your ground against him?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How. Stranger, can I describe an image except as something
|
||
|
fashioned in the likeness of the true?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And do you mean this something to be some other true thing,
|
||
|
or what do you mean?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly not another true thing, but only a resemblance.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And you mean by true that which really is?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And the not true is that which is the opposite of the true?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Exactly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. A resemblance, then, is not really real, if, as you say, not
|
||
|
true?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Nay, but it is in a certain sense.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. You mean to say, not in a true sense?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes; it is in reality only an image.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then what we call an image is in reality really unreal.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. In what a strange complication of being and not-being we are
|
||
|
involved!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Strange! I should think so. See how, by his reciprocation of
|
||
|
opposites, the many-headed Sophist has compelled us, quite against our
|
||
|
will, to admit the existence of not-being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, indeed, I see.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. The difficulty is how to define his art without falling into
|
||
|
a contradiction.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How do you mean? And where does the danger lie?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. When we say that he deceives us with an illusion, and that
|
||
|
his art is illusory, do we mean that our soul is led by his art to
|
||
|
think falsely, or what do we mean?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. There is nothing else to be said.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Again, false opinion is that form of opinion which thinks the
|
||
|
opposite of the truth:-You would assent?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. You mean to say that false opinion thinks what is not?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Does false opinion think that things which are not are not,
|
||
|
or that in a certain sense they are?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Things that are not must be imagined to exist in a certain
|
||
|
sense, if any degree of falsehood is to be possible.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And does not false opinion also think that things which most
|
||
|
certainly exist do not exist at all?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And here, again, is falsehood?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Falsehood-yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And in like manner, a false proposition will be deemed to be
|
||
|
one which are, the nonexistence of things which are, and the existence
|
||
|
of things which are not.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. There is no other way in which a false proposition can
|
||
|
arise.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. There is not; but the Sophist will deny these statements. And
|
||
|
indeed how can any rational man assent to them, when the very
|
||
|
expressions which we have just used were before acknowledged by us
|
||
|
to be unutterable, unspeakable, indescribable, unthinkable? Do you see
|
||
|
his point, Theaetetus?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course he will say that we are contradicting ourselves
|
||
|
when we hazard the assertion, that falsehood exists in opinion and
|
||
|
in words; for in maintaining this, we are compelled over and over
|
||
|
again to assert being of not-being, which we admitted just now to be
|
||
|
an utter impossibility.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. How well you remember! And now it is high time to hold a
|
||
|
consultation as to what we ought to do about the Sophist; for if we
|
||
|
persist in looking for him in the class of false workers and
|
||
|
magicians, you see that the handles for objection and the difficulties
|
||
|
which will arise are very numerous and obvious.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. They are indeed.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. We have gone through but a very small portion of them, and they
|
||
|
are really infinite.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. If that is the case, we cannot possibly catch the Sophist.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Shall we then be so faint-hearted as to give him up?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly not, I should say, if we can get the slightest
|
||
|
hold upon him.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Will you then forgive me, and, as your words imply, not be
|
||
|
altogether displeased if I flinch a little from the grasp of such a
|
||
|
sturdy argument?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. To be sure I will.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I have a yet more urgent request to make.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Which is-?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. That you will promise not to regard me as a parricide.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. And why?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Because, in self-defence, I must test the philosophy of my
|
||
|
father Parmenides, and try to prove by main force, that in a certain
|
||
|
sense not-being is, and that being, on the other hand, is not.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Some attempt of the kind is clearly needed.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Yes, a blind man, as they say, might see that, and, unless
|
||
|
these questions are decided in one way or another, no one when he
|
||
|
speaks false words, or false opinion, or idols, or images or
|
||
|
imitations or appearances, or about the arts which are concerned
|
||
|
with them; can avoid falling into ridiculous contradictions.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Most true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And therefore I must venture to lay hands on my father's
|
||
|
argument; for if I am to be over-scrupulous, I shall have to give
|
||
|
the matter up.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Nothing in the world should ever induce us to do so.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I have a third little request which I wish to make.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is it?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. You heard me-say what-I have always felt and still feel-that
|
||
|
I have no heart for this argument?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. I did.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I tremble at the thought of what I have said, and expect that
|
||
|
you will deem me mad, when you hear of my sudden changes and
|
||
|
shiftings; let me therefore observe, that I am examining the
|
||
|
question entirely out of regard for you.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. There is no reason for you to fear that I shall impute any
|
||
|
impropriety to you, if you attempt this refutation and proof; take
|
||
|
heart, therefore, and proceed.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And where shall I begin the perilous enterprise? I think that
|
||
|
the road which I must take is-
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Which?-Let me hear.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I think that we had better, first of all, consider the points
|
||
|
which at present are regard as self-evident, lest we may have fallen
|
||
|
into some confusion, and be too ready to assent to one another,
|
||
|
fancying that we are quite clear about them.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Say more distinctly what you mean.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I think that Parmenides, and all ever yet undertook to
|
||
|
determine the number and nature of existences, talked to us in
|
||
|
rather a light and easy strain.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. As if we had been children, to whom they repeated each his
|
||
|
own mythus or story;-one said that there were three principles, and
|
||
|
that at one time there was war between certain of them; and then again
|
||
|
there was peace, and they were married and begat children, and brought
|
||
|
them up; and another spoke of two principles,-a moist and a dry, or
|
||
|
a hot and a cold, and made them marry and cohabit. The Eleatics,
|
||
|
however, in our part of the world, say that things are many in name,
|
||
|
but in nature one; this is their mythus, which goes back to
|
||
|
Xenophanes, and is even older. Then there are Ionian, and in more
|
||
|
recent times Sicilian muses, who have arrived at the conclusion that
|
||
|
to unite the two principles is safer, and to say that being is one and
|
||
|
many, and that these are held together by enmity and friendship,
|
||
|
ever parting, ever meeting, as the-severer Muses assert, while the
|
||
|
gentler ones do not insist on the perpetual strife and peace, but
|
||
|
admit a relaxation and alternation of them; peace and unity
|
||
|
sometimes prevailing under the sway of Aphrodite, and then again
|
||
|
plurality and war, by reason of a principle of strife. Whether any
|
||
|
of them spoke the truth in all this is hard to determine; besides,
|
||
|
antiquity and famous men should have reverence, and not be liable to
|
||
|
accusations; so serious; Yet one thing may be said of them without
|
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offence-
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Theaet. What thing?
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Str. That they went on their several ways disdaining to notice
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people like ourselves; they did not care whether they took us with
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them, or left us behind them.
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Theaet. How do you mean?
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Str. I mean to say, that when they talk of one, two, or more
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elements, which are or have become or are becoming, or again of heat
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mingling with cold, assuming in some other part of their works
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separations and mixtures,-tell me, Theaetetus, do you understand
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what they mean by these expressions? When I was a younger man, I
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used to fancy that I understood quite well what was meant by the
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term "not-being," which is our present subject of dispute; and now you
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see in what a fix we are about it.
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Theaet. I see.
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Str. And very likely we have been getting into the same perplexity
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about "being," and yet may fancy that when anybody utters the word, we
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understand him quite easily, although we do not know about
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not-being. But we may be; equally ignorant of both.
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Theaet. I dare say.
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Str. And the same may be said of all the terms just mentioned.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. The consideration of most of them may be deferred; but we had
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better now discuss the chief captain and leader of them.
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Theaet. Of what are you speaking? You clearly think that we must
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first investigate what people mean by the word "being."
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Str. You follow close at heels, Theaetetus. For the right method,
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I conceive, will be to call into our presence the dualistic
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philosophers and to interrogate them. "Come," we will say, "Ye, who
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affirm that hot and cold or any other two principles are the universe,
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what is this term which you apply to both of them, and what do you
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mean when you say that both and each of them 'are'? How are we to
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understand the word 'are'? Upon your view, are we to suppose that
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there is a third principle over and above the other two-three in
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all, and not two? For clearly you cannot say that one of the two
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principles is being, and yet attribute being equally to both of
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them; for, if you did, whichever of the two is identified with
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being, will comprehend the other; and so they will be one and not
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two."
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. But perhaps you mean to give the name of "being" to both of
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them together?
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Theaet. Quite likely.
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Str. "Then, friends," we shall reply to them, "the answer is plainly
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that the two will still be resolved into one."
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Theaet. Most true.
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Str. "Since then, we are in a difficulty, please to tell us what you
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mean, when you speak of being; for there can be no doubt that you
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always from the first understood your own meaning, whereas we once
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thought that we understood you, but now we are in a great strait.
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Please to begin by explaining this matter to us, and let us no
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longer fancy that we understand you, when we entirely misunderstand
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you." There will be no impropriety in our demanding an answer to
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this question, either of the dualists or of the pluralists?
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Theaet. Certainly not.
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Str. And what about the assertors of the oneness of the all-must
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we not endeavour to ascertain from them what they mean by "being"?
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Theaet. By all means.
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Str. Then let them answer this question: One, you say, alone is?
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"Yes," they will reply.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And there is something which you call "being"?
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Theaet. "Yes."
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Str. And is being the same as one, and do you apply two names to the
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same thing?
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Theaet. What will be their answer, Stranger?
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Str. It is clear, Theaetetus, that he who asserts the unity of being
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will find a difficulty in answering this or any other question.
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Theaet. Why so?
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Str. To admit of two names, and to affirm that there is nothing
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but unity, is surely ridiculous?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And equally irrational to admit that a name is anything?
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Theaet. How so?
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Str. To distinguish the name from the thing, implies duality.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And yet he who identifies the name with the thing will be
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compelled to say that it is the name of nothing, or if he says that it
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is the name of something, even then the name will only be the name
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of a name, and of nothing else.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And the one will turn out to be only one of one, and being
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absolute unity, will represent a mere name.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And would they say that the whole is other than the one that
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is, or the same with it?
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Theaet. To be sure they would, and they actually say so.
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Str. If being is a whole, as Parmenides sings,-
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Every way like unto the fullness of a well-rounded sphere,
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Evenly balanced from the centre on every side,
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And must needs be neither greater nor less in any way,
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Neither on this side nor on that-
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then being has a centre and extremes, and, having these, must also
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have parts.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. Yet that which has parts may have the attribute of unity in all
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the parts, and in this way being all and a whole, may be one?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. But that of which this is the condition cannot be absolute
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unity?
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Theaet. Why not?
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Str. Because, according to right reason, that which is truly one
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must be affirmed to be absolutely indivisible.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. But this indivisible, if made up of many parts, will contradict
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reason.
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Theaet. I understand.
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Str. Shall we say that being is one and a whole, because it has
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the attribute of unity? Or shall we say that being is not a whole at
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all?
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Theaet. That is a hard alternative to offer.
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Str. Most true; for being, having in a certain sense the attribute
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of one, is yet proved not to be the same as one, and the all is
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therefore more than one.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And yet if being be not a whole, through having the attribute
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of unity, and there be such a thing as an absolute whole, being
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lacks something of its own nature?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Upon this view, again, being, having a defect of being, will
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|
become not-being?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And, again, the all becomes more than one, for being and the
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whole will each have their separate nature.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. But if the whole does not exist at all, all the previous
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difficulties remain the same, and there will be the further
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difficulty, that besides having no being, being can never have come
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into being.
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Theaet. Why so?
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Str. Because that which comes into being always comes into being
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as a whole, so that he who does not give whole a place among beings,
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|
cannot speak either of essence or generation as existing.
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Theaet. Yes, that certainly appears to be true.
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Str. Again; how can that which is not a whole have any quantity? For
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that which is of a certain quantity must necessarily be the whole of
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|
that quantity.
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Theaet. Exactly.
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Str. And there will be innumerable other points, each of them
|
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|
causing infinite trouble to him who says that being is either, one
|
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|
or two.
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Theaet. The difficulties which are dawning upon us prove this; for
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one objection connects with another, and they are always involving
|
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|
what has preceded in a greater and worse perplexity.
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Str. We are far from having exhausted the more exact thinkers who
|
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|
treat of being and not-being. But let us be content to leave them, and
|
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|
proceed to view those who speak less precisely; and we shall find as
|
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|
the result of all, that the nature of being is quite as difficult to
|
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|
comprehend as that of not-being.
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Theaet. Then now we will go to the others.
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Str. There appears to be a sort of war of Giants and Gods going on
|
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|
amongst them; they are fighting with one another about the nature of
|
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|
essence.
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|
Theaet. How is that?
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Str. Some of them are dragging down all things from heaven and
|
||
|
from the unseen to earth, and they literally grasp in their hands
|
||
|
rocks and oaks; of these they lay hold, and obstinately maintain, that
|
||
|
the things only which can be touched or handled have being or essence,
|
||
|
because they define being and body as one, and if any one else says
|
||
|
that what is not a body exists they altogether despise him, and will
|
||
|
hear of nothing but body.
|
||
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|
Theaet. I have often met with such men, and terrible fellows they
|
||
|
are.
|
||
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|
Str. And that is the reason why their opponents cautiously defend
|
||
|
themselves from above, out of an unseen world, mightily contending
|
||
|
that true essence consists of certain intelligible and incorporeal
|
||
|
ideas; the bodies of the materialists, which by them are maintained to
|
||
|
be the very truth, they break up into little bits by their
|
||
|
arguments, and affirm them to be, not essence, but generation and
|
||
|
motion. Between the two armies, Theaetetus, there is always an endless
|
||
|
conflict raging concerning these matters.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Let us ask each party in turn, to give an account of that which
|
||
|
they call essence.
|
||
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|
Theaet. How shall we get it out of them?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. With those who make being to consist in ideas, there will be
|
||
|
less difficulty, for they are civil people enough; but there will be
|
||
|
very great difficulty, or rather an absolute impossibility, in getting
|
||
|
an opinion out of those who drag everything down to matter. Shall I
|
||
|
tell you what we must do?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let us, if we can, really improve them; but if this is not
|
||
|
possible, let us imagine them to be better than they are, and more
|
||
|
willing to answer in accordance with the rules of argument, and then
|
||
|
their opinion will be more worth having; for that which better men
|
||
|
acknowledge has more weight than that which is acknowledged by
|
||
|
inferior men. Moreover we are no respecters of persons, but seekers
|
||
|
after time.
|
||
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||
|
Theaet. Very good.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then now, on the supposition that they are improved, let us ask
|
||
|
them to state their views, and do you interpret them.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Agreed.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let them say whether they would admit that there is such a
|
||
|
thing as a mortal animal.
|
||
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|
Theaet. Of course they would.
|
||
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|
Str. And do they not acknowledge this to be a body having a soul?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly they do.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Meaning to say the soul is something which exists?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And do they not say that one soul is just, and another
|
||
|
unjust, and that one soul is wise, and another foolish?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And that the just and wise soul becomes just and wise by the
|
||
|
possession of justice and wisdom, and the opposite under opposite
|
||
|
circumstances?
|
||
|
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||
|
Theaet. Yes, they do.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. But surely that which may be present or may be absent will be
|
||
|
admitted by them to exist?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And, allowing that justice, wisdom, the other virtues, and
|
||
|
their opposites exist, as well as a soul in which they inhere, do they
|
||
|
affirm any of them to be visible and tangible, or are they all
|
||
|
invisible?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. They would say that hardly any of them are visible.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. And would they say that they are corporeal?
|
||
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|
Theaet. They would distinguish: the soul would be said by them to
|
||
|
have a body; but as to the other qualities of justice, wisdom, and the
|
||
|
like, about which you asked, they would not venture either to deny
|
||
|
their existence, or to maintain that they were all corporeal.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Verily, Theaetetus, I perceive a great improvement in them; the
|
||
|
real aborigines, children of the dragon's teeth, would have been
|
||
|
deterred by no shame at all, but would have obstinately asserted
|
||
|
that nothing is which they are not able to squeeze in their hands.
|
||
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|
Theaet. That is pretty much their notion.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let us push the question; for if they will admit that any, even
|
||
|
the smallest particle of being, is incorporeal, it is enough; they
|
||
|
must then say what that nature is which is common to both the
|
||
|
corporeal and incorporeal, and which they have in their mind's eye
|
||
|
when they say of both of them that they "are." Perhaps they may be
|
||
|
in a difficulty; and if this is the case, there is a possibility
|
||
|
that they may accept a notion of ours respecting the nature of
|
||
|
being, having nothing of their own to offer.
|
||
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|
Theaet. What is the notion? Tell me, and we shall soon see.
|
||
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|
Str. My notion would be, that anything which possesses any sort of
|
||
|
power to affect another, or to be affected by another, if only for a
|
||
|
single moment, however trifling the cause and however slight the
|
||
|
effect, has real existence; and I hold that the definition of being is
|
||
|
simply power of
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||
|
Theaet. They accept your suggestion, having nothing better of
|
||
|
their own to offer.
|
||
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||
|
Str. Very good; perhaps we, as well as they, may one day change
|
||
|
our minds; but, for the present, this may be regarded as the
|
||
|
understanding which is established with them.
|
||
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|
Theaet. Agreed.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let us now go to the friends of ideas; of their opinions,
|
||
|
too, you shall be the interpreter.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. I will.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. To them we say-You would distinguish essence from generation?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. "Yes," they reply.
|
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||
|
Str. And you would allow that we participate in generation, with the
|
||
|
body, and through perception, but we participate with the soul through
|
||
|
in true essence; and essence you would affirm to be always the same
|
||
|
and immutable, whereas generation or becoming varies?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes; that is what we should affirm.
|
||
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||
|
Str. Well, fair sirs, we say to them, what is this participation,
|
||
|
which you assert of both? Do you agree with our recent definition?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. What definition?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. We said that being was an active or passive energy, arising out
|
||
|
of a certain power which proceeds from elements meeting with one
|
||
|
another. Perhaps your cars, Theaetetus, may fail to catch their
|
||
|
answer, which I recognize because I have been accustomed to hear it.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. And what is their answer?
|
||
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|
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|
Str. They deny the truth of what we were just now, saying to the
|
||
|
aborigines about existence.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. What was that?
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Any power of doing or suffering in a degree however slight
|
||
|
was held by us to be a sufficient definition of being?
|
||
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||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. They deny this, and say that the power of doing or suffering is
|
||
|
confined to becoming, and that neither power is applicable to being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. And is there not some truth in what they say?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Yes; but our reply will be that we want to ascertain from
|
||
|
them more distinctly, whether they further admit that the soul
|
||
|
knows, and that being or essence is known.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. There can be no doubt that they say so.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And is knowing and being known, doing or suffering, or both, or
|
||
|
is the one doing and the other suffering, or has neither any share
|
||
|
in either?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Clearly, neither has any share in either; for if they say
|
||
|
anything else, they will contradict themselves.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. I understand; but they will allow that if to know is active,
|
||
|
then, of course, to be known is passive. And on this view being, in so
|
||
|
far as it is known, is acted upon by knowledge, and is therefore in
|
||
|
motion; for that which is in a state of rest cannot be acted upon,
|
||
|
as we affirm.
|
||
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|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. And, O heavens, can we ever be made to believe that motion
|
||
|
and life and soul and mind are not present with perfect being? Can
|
||
|
we imagine that, being is devoid of life and mind, and exists in awful
|
||
|
unmeaningness an everlasting fixture?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. That would be a dreadful thing to admit, Stranger.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But shall we say that has mind and not life?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. How is that possible?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Or shall we say that both inhere in perfect being, but that
|
||
|
it has no soul which contains them?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. And in what other way can it contain them?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Or that being has mind and life and soul, but although
|
||
|
endowed with soul remains absolutely unmoved?
|
||
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|
Theaet. All three suppositions appear to me to be irrational.
|
||
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Str. Under being, then, we must include motion, and that which is
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moved.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Then, Theaetetus, our inference is, that if there is no motion,
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neither is there any mind anywhere, or about anything or belonging
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to any one.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. And yet this equally follows, if we grant that all things are
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in motion-upon this view too mind has no existence.
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Theaet. How so?
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Str. Do you think that sameness of condition and mode and subject
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could ever exist without a principle of rest?
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Theaet. Certainly not.
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Str. Can you see how without them mind could exist, or come into
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existence anywhere?
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Theaet. No.
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Str. And surely contend we must in every possible way against him
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who would annihilate knowledge and reason and mind, and yet ventures
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to speak confidently about anything.
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Theaet. Yes, with all our might.
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Str. Then the philosopher, who has the truest reverence for these
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qualities, cannot possibly accept the notion of those who say that the
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whole is at rest, either as unity or in many forms: and he will be
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utterly deaf to those who assert universal motion. As children say
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entreatingly "Give us both." so he will include both the moveable
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and immoveable in his definition of being and all.
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Theaet. Most true.
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Str. And now, do we seem to have gained a fair notion of being?
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Theaet. Yes truly.
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Str. Alas, Theaetetus, methinks that we are now only beginning to
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see the real difficulty of the enquiry into the nature of it.
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Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. O my friend, do you not see that nothing can exceed out
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ignorance, and yet we fancy that we are saying something good?
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Theaet. I certainly thought that we were; and I do not at all
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understand how we never found out our desperate case.
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Str. Reflect: after having made, these admissions, may we not be
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justly asked, the same questions which we ourselves were asking of
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those who said that all was hot and cold?
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Theaet. What were they? Will you recall them to my mind?
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Str. To be sure, I will remind you of them, by putting the same
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questions, to you which I did to them, and then we shall get on.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. Would you not say that rest and motion are in the most entire
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opposition to one another?
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Theaet. Of course.
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Str. And yet you would say that both and either of them equally are?
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Theaet. I should.
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Str. And when you admit that both or either of them are, do you mean
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to say that both or either, of them are in motion?
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Theaet. Certainly not.
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Str. Or do you wish to imply that they are both at rest, when you
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say that they are?
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Theaet. Of course not.
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Str. Then you conceive of being as some third and distinct nature,
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under which rest and motion are alike included; and, observing that
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they both participate in being, you declare that they are.
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Theaet. Truly we seem to have an intimation that being is some third
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thing, when we say that rest and motion are.
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Str. Then being is not the combination of rest and motion, but
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something different from them.
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Theaet. So it would appear.
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Str. Being, then, according to its own nature, is neither in
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motion nor at rest.
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Theaet. That is very much the truth.
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Str. Where, then, is a man to look for help who would have any clear
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or fixed notion of being in his mind?
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Theaet. Where, indeed?
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Str. I scarcely think that he can look anywhere; for that which is
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not in motion must be at rest, and again, that which is not at rest
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must be in motion; but being is placed outside of both these
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classes. Is this possible?
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Theaet. Utterly impossible.
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Str. Here, then, is another thing which we ought to bear in mind.
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Theaet. What?
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Str. When we were asked to what we were to assign the appellation of
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not-being, we were in the greatest difficulty:-do you remember?
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Theaet. To be sure.
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Str. And are we not now in as a difficulty about being?
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Theaes. I should say, Stranger, that we are in one which is, if
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possible, even greater.
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Str. Then let us acknowledge the difficulty; and as being and
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not-being are involved in the same perplexity, there is hope that when
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the one appears more or less distinctly, the other will equally
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appear; and if we are able to see neither there may still be a
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chance of steering our way in between them, without any great
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discredit.
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. Let us enquire, then, how we come to predicate many names of
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the same thing.
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Theaet. Give an example.
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Str. I mean that we speak of man, for example, under many names-that
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we attribute to him colours and forms and magnitudes and virtues and
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vices, in all of which instances and in ten thousand others we not
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only speak of him as a man, but also as good, and having number-less
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|
other attributes, and in the same way anything else which we
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originally supposed to be one is described by us as many, and under
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many names.
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Theaet. That is true.
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Str. And thus we provide a rich feast for tyros, whether young or
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old; for there is nothing easier than to argue that the one cannot
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be many, or the many one; and great is their delight in denying that a
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|
man is good; for man, they insist, is man and good is good. I dare say
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|
that you have met with persons who take-an interest in such
|
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|
matters-they are often elderly men, whose meagre sense is thrown
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into amazement by these discoveries of theirs, which they believe to
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be the height of wisdom.
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Theaet. Certainly, I have.
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Str. Then, not to exclude any one who has ever speculated at all
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upon the nature of being, let us put our questions to them as well
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as to our former friends.
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Theaet. What questions?
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Str. Shall we refuse to attribute being to motion and rest, or
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|
anything to anything, and assume that they do not mingle, and are
|
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|
incapable of participating in one another? Or shall we gather all into
|
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|
one class of things communicable with one another? Or are some
|
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|
things communicable and others not?-Which of these alternatives,
|
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Theaetetus, will they prefer?
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Theaet. I have nothing to answer on their behalf. Suppose that you
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take all these hypotheses in turn, and see what are the consequences
|
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|
which follow from each of them.
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Str. Very good, and first let us assume them to say that nothing
|
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|
is capable of participating in anything else in any respect; in that
|
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case rest and motion cannot participate in being at all.
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Theaet. They cannot.
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Str. But would either of them be if not participating in being?
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Theaet. No.
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Str. Then by this admission everything is instantly overturned, as
|
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|
well the doctrine of universal motion as of universal rest, and also
|
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|
the doctrine of those who distribute being into immutable and
|
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|
everlasting kinds; for all these add on a notion of being, some
|
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|
affirming that things "are" truly in motion, and others that they
|
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|
"are" truly at rest.
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Theaes. Just so.
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Str. Again, those who would at one time compound, and at another
|
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|
resolve all things, whether making them into one and out of one
|
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|
creating infinity, or dividing them into finite clements, and
|
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|
forming compounds out of these; whether they suppose the processes
|
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|
of creation to be successive or continuous, would be talking
|
||
|
nonsense in all this if there were no admixture.
|
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|
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|
Theaet. True.
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|
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|
Str. Most ridiculous of all will the men themselves be who want to
|
||
|
carry out the argument and yet forbid us to call anything, because
|
||
|
participating in some affection from another, by the name of that
|
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|
other.
|
||
|
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|
Theaet. Why so?
|
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|
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|
Str. Why, because they are compelled to use the words "to be,"
|
||
|
"apart," "from others. "in itself," and ten thousand more, which
|
||
|
they cannot give up, but must make the connecting links of
|
||
|
discourse; and therefore they do not require to be refuted by
|
||
|
others, but their enemy, as the saying is, inhabits the same house
|
||
|
with them; they are always carrying about with them an adversary, like
|
||
|
the wonderful ventriloquist, Eurycles, who out of their own bellies
|
||
|
audibly contradicts them.
|
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|
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|
Theaet. Precisely so; a very true and exact illustration.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And now, if we suppose that all things have the power of
|
||
|
communion with one another -what will follow?
|
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|
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|
Theaet. Even I can solve that riddle.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. How?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Why, because motion itself would be at rest, and rest
|
||
|
again in motion, if they could be attributed to one another.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. But this is utterly impossible.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then only the third hypothesis remains.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. For, surely, either all things have communion with all; or
|
||
|
nothing with any other thing; or some things communicate with some
|
||
|
things and others not.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And two out of these three suppositions have been found to be
|
||
|
impossible.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Every one then, who desires to answer truly, will adopt the
|
||
|
third and remaining hypothesis of the communion of some with some.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. This communion of some with some may be illustrated by the case
|
||
|
of letters; for some letters do not fit each other, while others do.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And the vowels, especially, are a sort of bond which pervades
|
||
|
all the other letters, so that without a vowel one consonant cannot be
|
||
|
joined to another.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But does every one know what letters will unite with what? Or
|
||
|
is art required in order to do so?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. What is required.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. What art?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. The art of grammar.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And is not this also true of sounds high and low?-Is not he who
|
||
|
has the art to know what sounds mingle, a musician, and he who is
|
||
|
ignorant, not a musician?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And we shall find this to be generally true of art or the
|
||
|
absence of art.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And as classes are admitted by us in like manner to be some
|
||
|
of them capable and others incapable of intermixture, must not he
|
||
|
who would rightly show what kinds will unite and what will not,
|
||
|
proceed by the help of science in the path of argument? And will he
|
||
|
not ask if the connecting links are universal, and so capable of
|
||
|
intermixture with all things; and again, in divisions, whether there
|
||
|
are not other universal classes, which make them possible?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. To be sure he will require science, and, if I am not
|
||
|
mistaken, the very greatest of all sciences.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. How are we to call it? By Zeus, have we not lighted unwittingly
|
||
|
upon our free and noble science, and in looking for the Sophist have
|
||
|
we not entertained the philosopher unawares?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What do you mean?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Should we not say that the division according to classes, which
|
||
|
neither makes the same other, nor makes other the same, is the
|
||
|
business of the dialectical science?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. That is what we should say.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, surely, he who can divide rightly is able to see
|
||
|
clearly one form pervading a scattered multitude, and many different
|
||
|
forms contained under one higher form; and again, one form knit
|
||
|
together into a single whole and pervading many such wholes, and
|
||
|
many forms, existing only in separation and isolation. This is the
|
||
|
knowledge of classes which determines where they can have communion
|
||
|
with one another and where not.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And the art of dialectic would be attributed by you only to the
|
||
|
philosopher pure and true?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Who but he can be worthy?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. In this region we shall always discover the philosopher, if
|
||
|
we look for him; like the Sophist, he is not easily discovered, but
|
||
|
for a different reason.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. For what reason?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Because the Sophist runs away into the darkness of not-being,
|
||
|
in which he has learned by habit to feel about, and cannot be
|
||
|
discovered because of the darkness of the place. is not that true?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. It seems to be so.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And the philosopher, always holding converse through reason
|
||
|
with the idea of being, is also dark from excess of light; for the
|
||
|
souls of the many have no eye which can endure the vision of the
|
||
|
divine.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes; that seems to be quite as true as the other.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Well, the philosopher may hereafter be more fully considered by
|
||
|
us, if we are disposed; but the Sophist must clearly not be allowed to
|
||
|
escape until we have had a good look at him.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Very good.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Since, then, we are agreed that some classes have a communion
|
||
|
with one another, and others not, and some have communion with a few
|
||
|
and others with many, and that there is no reason why some should
|
||
|
not have universal communion with all, let us now pursue the
|
||
|
enquiry, as the argument suggests, not in relation to all ideas,
|
||
|
lest the multitude of them should confuse us, but let us select a
|
||
|
few of those which are reckoned to be the principal ones, and consider
|
||
|
their several natures and their capacity of communion with one
|
||
|
another, in order that if we are not able to apprehend with perfect
|
||
|
clearness the notions of being and not-being, we may at least not fall
|
||
|
short in the consideration of them, so far as they come within the
|
||
|
scope of the present enquiry, if peradventure we may be allowed to
|
||
|
assert the reality of not-being, and yet escape unscathed.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. We must do so.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. The most important of all the genera are those which we were
|
||
|
just now mentioning-being and rest and motion.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, by far.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And two of these are, as we affirm, incapable of communion with
|
||
|
one another.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Quite incapable.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Whereas being surely has communion with both of them, for
|
||
|
both of them are?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. That makes up three of them.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. To be sure.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And each of them is other than the remaining two, but the
|
||
|
same with itself.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But then, what is the meaning of these two words, "same" and
|
||
|
"other"? Are they two new kinds other than the three, and yet always
|
||
|
of necessity intermingling with them, and are we to have five kinds
|
||
|
instead of three; or when we speak of the same and other, are we
|
||
|
unconsciously speaking of one of the three first kinds?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Very likely we are.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But, surely, motion and rest are neither the other nor the
|
||
|
same.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How is that?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Whatever we attribute to motion and rest in common, cannot be
|
||
|
either of them.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Why not?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Because motion would be at rest and rest in motion, for
|
||
|
either of them, being predicated of both, will compel the other to
|
||
|
change into the opposite of its own nature, because partaking of its
|
||
|
opposite.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Yet they surely both partake of the same and of the other?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then we must not assert that motion, any more than rest, is
|
||
|
either the same or the other.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. No; we must not.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But are we to conceive that being and the same are identical?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Possibly.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. But if they are identical, then again in saying that motion and
|
||
|
rest have being, we should also be saying that they are the same.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Which surely cannot be.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Then being and same cannot be one.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. Scarcely.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then we may suppose the same to be a fourth class, which is now
|
||
|
to be added to the three others.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And shall we call the other a fifth class? Or should we
|
||
|
consider being and other to be two names of the same class?
|
||
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|
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Theaet. Very likely.
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Str. But you would agree, if I am not mistaken, that existences
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are relative as well as absolute?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And the other is always relative to other?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. But this would not be the case unless being and the other
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entirely differed; for, if the other, like being, were absolute as
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well as relative, then there would have been a kind of other which was
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not other than other. And now we find that what is other must of
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necessity be what it is in relation to some other.
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Theaet. That is the true state of the case.
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Str. Then we must admit the other as the fifth of our selected
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classes.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And the fifth class pervades all classes, for they all differ
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from one another, not by reason of their own nature, but because
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they partake of the idea of the other.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. Then let us now put the case with reference to each of the
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five.
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Theaet. How?
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Str. First there is motion, which we affirm to be absolutely "other"
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than rest: what else can we say?
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Theaet. It is so.
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Str. And therefore is not rest.
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Theaet. Certainly not.
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Str. And yet is, because partaking of being.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. Again, motion is other than the same?
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Theaet. Just so.
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Str. And is therefore not the same.
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Theaet. It is not.
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Str. Yet, surely, motion is the same, because all things partake
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of the same.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. Then we must admit, and not object to say, that motion is the
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same and is not the same, for we do not apply the terms "same" and
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"not the same," in the same sense; but we call it the "same," in
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relation to itself, because partaking of the same; and not the same,
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because having communion with the other, it is thereby severed from
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the same, and has become not that but other, and is therefore
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rightly spoken of as "not the same."
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Theaet. To be sure.
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Str. And if absolute motion in any point of view partook of rest,
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there would be no absurdity in calling motion stationary.
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Theaet. Quite right, -that is, on the supposition that some
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classes mingle with one another, and others not.
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Str. That such a communion of kinds is according to nature, we had
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already proved before we arrived at this part of our discussion.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Let us proceed, then. we not say that motion is other than
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the other, having been also proved by us to be other than the same and
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other than rest?
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Theaet. That is certain.
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Str. Then, according to this view, motion is other and also not
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other?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. What is the next step? Shall we say that motion is other than
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the three and not other than the fourth-for we agreed that there are
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five classes about and in the sphere of which we proposed to make
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enquiry?
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Theaet. Surely we cannot admit that the number is less than it
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appeared to be just now.
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Str. Then we may without fear contend that motion is other than
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being?
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Theaet. Without the least fear.
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Str. The plain result is that motion, since it partakes of being,
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really is and also is not?
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Theaet. Nothing can be plainer.
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Str. Then not-being necessarily exists in the case of motion and
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of every class; for the nature of the other entering into them all,
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makes each of them other than being, and so non-existent; and
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therefore of all of them, in like manner, we may truly say that they
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are not-and again, inasmuch as they partake of being, that they are
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and are existent.
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Theaet. So we may assume.
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Str. Every class, then, has plurality of being and infinity of
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not-being.
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Theaet. So we must infer.
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Str. And being itself may be said to be other than the other kinds.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. Then we may infer that being is not, in respect of as many
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other things as there are; for not-being these it is itself one, and
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is: not the other things, which are infinite in number.
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Theaet. That is not far from the truth.
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Str. And we must not quarrel with this result, since it is of the
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nature of classes to have communion with one another; and if any one
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denies our present statement [viz., that being is not, etc.], let
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him first argue with our former conclusion [i.e., respecting the
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communion of ideas], and then he may proceed to argue with what
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follows.
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Theaet. Nothing can be fairer.
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Str. Let me ask you to consider a further question.
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Theaet. What question?
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Str. When we speak of not-being, we speak, I suppose, not of
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something opposed to being, but only different.
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Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. When we speak of something as not great, does the expression
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seem to you to imply what is little any more than what is equal?
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Theaet. Certainly not.
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Str. The negative particles, ou and me, when prefixed to words, do
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not imply opposition, but only difference from the words, or more
|
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correctly from the things represented by the words, which follow them.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. There is another point to be considered, if you do not object.
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Theaet. What is it?
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Str. The nature of the other appears to me to be divided into
|
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fractions like knowledge.
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Theaet. How so?
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Str. Knowledge, like the other, is one; and yet the various parts of
|
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|
knowledge have each of them their own particular name, and hence there
|
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|
are many arts and kinds of knowledge.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. And is not the case the same with the parts of the other, which
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is also one?
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Theaet. Very likely; but will you tell me how?
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Str. There is some part of the other which is opposed to the
|
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|
beautiful?
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Theaet. There is.
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Str. Shall we say that this has or has not a name?
|
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Theaet. It has; for whatever we call not beautiful is other than the
|
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|
beautiful, not than something else.
|
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Str. And now tell me another thing.
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|
Theaet. What?
|
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|
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|
Str. Is the not-beautiful anything but this-an existence parted
|
||
|
off from a certain kind of existence, and again from another point
|
||
|
of view opposed to an existing something?
|
||
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|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. Then the not-beautiful turns out to be the opposition of
|
||
|
being to being?
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. Very true.
|
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|
Str. But upon this view, is the beautiful a more real and the
|
||
|
not-beautiful a less real existence?
|
||
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|
Theaet. Not at all.
|
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|
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|
Str. And the not-great may be said to exist, equally with the great?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And, in the same way, the just must be placed in the same
|
||
|
category with the not-just the one cannot be said to have any more
|
||
|
existence than the other.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. The same may be said of other things; seeing that the nature of
|
||
|
the other has a real existence, the parts of this nature must
|
||
|
equally be supposed to exist.
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||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Of course.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then, as would appear, the opposition of a part of the other,
|
||
|
and of a part of being, to one another, is, if I may venture to say
|
||
|
so, as truly essence as being itself, and implies not the opposite
|
||
|
of being, but only what is other than being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Beyond question.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. What then shall we call it?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Clearly, not-being; and this is the very nature for which
|
||
|
the Sophist compelled us to search.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And has not this, as you were saying, as real an existence as
|
||
|
any other class? May I not say with confidence that not-being has an
|
||
|
assured existence, and a nature of its own? just as the great was
|
||
|
found to be great and the beautiful beautiful, and the not-great
|
||
|
not-great, and the not-beautiful not-beautiful, in the same manner
|
||
|
not-being has been found to be and is not-being, and is to be reckoned
|
||
|
one among the many classes of being. Do you, Theaetetus, still feel
|
||
|
any doubt of this?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. None whatever.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Do you observe that our scepticism has carried us beyond the
|
||
|
range of Parmenides' prohibition?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. In what?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. We have advanced to a further point, and shown him more than he
|
||
|
for bad us to investigate.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How is that?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Why, because he says-
|
||
|
|
||
|
Not-being never is, and do thou keep thy thoughts from this way
|
||
|
of enquiry.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, he says so.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Whereas, we have not only proved that things which are not are,
|
||
|
but we have shown what form of being not-being is; for we have shown
|
||
|
that the nature of the other is, and is distributed over all things in
|
||
|
their relations to one another, and whatever part of the other is
|
||
|
contrasted with being, this is precisely what we have ventured to call
|
||
|
not-being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. And surely, Stranger, we were quite right.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Let not any one say, then, that while affirming the
|
||
|
opposition of not-being to being, we still assert the being of
|
||
|
not-being; for as to whether there is an opposite of being, to that
|
||
|
enquiry we have long said good-bye-it may or may not be, and may or
|
||
|
may not be capable of definition. But as touching our present
|
||
|
account of not-being, let a man either convince us of error, or, so
|
||
|
long as he cannot, he too must say, as we are saying, that there is
|
||
|
a communion of classes, and that being, and difference or other,
|
||
|
traverse all things and mutually interpenetrate, so that the other
|
||
|
partakes of being, and by reason of this participation is, and yet
|
||
|
is not that of which it partakes, but other, and being other than
|
||
|
being, it is clearly a necessity that not-being should be. again,
|
||
|
being, through partaking of the other, becomes a class other than
|
||
|
the remaining classes, and being other than all of them, is not each
|
||
|
one of them, and is not all the rest, so that undoubtedly there are
|
||
|
thousands upon thousands of cases in which being is not, and all other
|
||
|
things, whether regarded individually or collectively, in many
|
||
|
respects are, and in many respects are not.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And he who is sceptical of this contradiction, must think how
|
||
|
he can find something better to say; or if. he sees a puzzle, and
|
||
|
his pleasure is to drag words this way and that, the argument will
|
||
|
prove to him, that he is not making a worthy use of his faculties; for
|
||
|
there is no charm in such puzzles, and there is no difficulty in
|
||
|
detecting them; but we can tell him of something else the pursuit of
|
||
|
which is noble and also difficult.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is it?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. A thing of which I have already spoken;-letting alone these
|
||
|
puzzles as involving no difficulty, he should be able to follow, and
|
||
|
criticize in detail every argument, and when a man says that the
|
||
|
same is in a manner other, or that other is the same, to understand
|
||
|
and refute him from his own point of view, and in the same respect
|
||
|
in which he asserts either of these affections. But to show that
|
||
|
somehow and in some sense the same is other, or the other same, or the
|
||
|
great small, or the like unlike; and to delight in always bringing
|
||
|
forward such contradictions, is no real refutation, but is clearly the
|
||
|
new-born babe of some one who is only beginning to approach the
|
||
|
problem of being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. To be sure.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. For certainly, my friend, the attempt to separate all
|
||
|
existences from one another is a barbarism and utterly unworthy of
|
||
|
an educated or philosophical mind.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Why so?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. The attempt at universal separation is the final annihilation
|
||
|
of all reasoning; for only by the union of conceptions with one
|
||
|
another do we attain to discourse of reason.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And, observe that we were only just in time in making a
|
||
|
resistance to such separatists, and compelling them to admit that
|
||
|
one thing mingles with another.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Why so?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Why, that we might be able to assert discourse to be a kind
|
||
|
of being; for if we could not, the worst of all consequences would
|
||
|
follow; we should have no philosophy. Moreover, the necessity for
|
||
|
determining the nature of discourse presses upon us at this moment; if
|
||
|
utterly deprived of it, we could no more hold discourse; and
|
||
|
deprived of it we should be if we admitted that there was no admixture
|
||
|
of natures at all.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Very true. But I do not understand why at this moment we
|
||
|
must determine the nature of discourse.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Perhaps you will see more clearly by the help of the
|
||
|
following explanation.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What explanation?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Not-being has been acknowledged by us to be one among many
|
||
|
classes diffused over all being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And thence arises the question, whether not-being mingles
|
||
|
with opinion and language.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How so?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. If not-being has no part in the proposition, then all things
|
||
|
must be true; but if not-being has a part, then false opinion and
|
||
|
false speech are possible, for. think or to say what is not-is
|
||
|
falsehood, which thus arises in the region of thought and in speech.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. That is quite true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And where there is falsehood surely there must be deceit.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And if there is deceit, then all things must be full of idols
|
||
|
and images and fancies.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. To be sure.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Into that region the Sophist, as we said, made his escape, and,
|
||
|
when he had got there, denied the very possibility of falsehood; no
|
||
|
one, he argued, either conceived or uttered falsehood, inasmuch as
|
||
|
not-being did not in any way partake of being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And now, not-being has been shown to partake of being, and
|
||
|
therefore he will not continue fighting in this direction, but he will
|
||
|
probably say that some ideas partake of not-being, and some not, and
|
||
|
that language and opinion are of the non-partaking class; and he
|
||
|
will still fight to the death against the existence of the
|
||
|
image-making and phantastic art, in which we have placed him, because,
|
||
|
as he will say, opinion and language do not partake of not-being,
|
||
|
and unless this participation exists, there can be no such thing as
|
||
|
falsehood. And, with the view of meeting this evasion, we must begin
|
||
|
by enquiring into the nature of language, opinion, and imagination, in
|
||
|
order that when we find them we may find also that they have communion
|
||
|
with not-being, and, having made out the connection of them, may
|
||
|
thus prove that falsehood exists; and therein we will imprison the
|
||
|
Sophist, if he deserves it, or, if not, we will let him go again and
|
||
|
look for him in another class.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Certainly, Stranger, there appears to be truth in what was
|
||
|
said about the Sophist at first, that he was of a class not easily
|
||
|
caught, for he seems to have abundance of defences, which he throws
|
||
|
up, and which must every one of them be stormed before we can reach
|
||
|
the man himself. And even now, we have with difficulty got through his
|
||
|
first defence, which is the not-being of not-being, and lo! here is
|
||
|
another; for we have still to show that falsehood exists in the sphere
|
||
|
of language and opinion, and there will be another and another line of
|
||
|
defence without end.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Any one, Theaetetus, who is able to advance even a little ought
|
||
|
to be of good cheer, for what would he who is dispirited at a little
|
||
|
progress do, if he were making none at all, or even undergoing a
|
||
|
repulse? Such a faint heart, as the proverb says, will never take a
|
||
|
city: but now that we have succeeded thus far, the citadel is ours,
|
||
|
and what remains is easier.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Very true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, as I was saying, let us first of all obtain a
|
||
|
conception of language and opinion, in order that we may have
|
||
|
clearer grounds for determining, whether not-being has any concern
|
||
|
with them, or whether they are both always true, and neither of them
|
||
|
ever false.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, now, let us speak of names, as before we were speaking of
|
||
|
ideas and letters; for that is the direction in which the answer may
|
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be expected.
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Theaet. And what is the question at issue about names?
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Str. The question at issue is whether all names may be connected
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with one another, or none, or only some of them.
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Theaet. Clearly the last is true.
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Str. I understand you to say that words which have a meaning when in
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sequence may be connected, but that words which have no meaning when
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in sequence cannot be connected?
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Theaet. What are you saying?
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Str. What I thought that you intended when you gave your assent; for
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there are two sorts of intimation of being which are given by the
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voice.
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Theaet. What are they?
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Str. One of them is called nouns, and the other verbs.
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Theaet. Describe them.
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Str. That which denotes action we call a verb.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And the other, which is an articulate mark set on those who
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do the actions, we call a noun.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. A succession of nouns only is not a sentence any more than of
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verbs without nouns.
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Theaet. I do not understand you.
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Str. I see that when you gave your assent you had something else
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in your mind. But what I intended to say was, that a mere succession
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of nouns or of verbs is not discourse.
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Theaet. What do you mean?
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Str. I mean that words like "walks," "runs," "sleeps," or any
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other words which denote action, however many of them you string
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together, do not make discourse.
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Theaet. How can they?
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Str. Or, again, when you say "lion," "stag," "horse," or any other
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words which denote agents -neither in this way of stringing words
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together do you attain to discourse; for there is no expression of
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action or inaction, or of the existence of existence or
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non-existence indicated by the sounds, until verbs are mingled with
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nouns; then the words fit, and the smallest combination of them
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forms language, and is the simplest and least form of discourse.
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Theaet. Again I ask, What do you mean?
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Str. When any one says "A man learns," should you not call this
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the simplest and least of sentences?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. Yes, for he now arrives at the point of giving an intimation
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about something which is, or is becoming, or has become, or will be.
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And he not only names, but he does something, by connecting verbs with
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nouns; and therefore we say that he discourses, and to this connection
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of words we give the name of discourse.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And as there are some things which fit one another, and other
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things which do not fit, so there are some vocal signs which do, and
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others which do not, combine and form discourse.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. There is another small matter.
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Theaet. What is it?
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Str. A sentence must and cannot help having a subject.
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And must be of a certain quality.
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And now let us mind what we are about.
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Theaet. We must do so.
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Str. I will repeat a sentence to you in which a thing and an
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action are combined, by the help of a noun and a verb; and you shall
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tell me of whom the sentence speaks.
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Theaet. I will, to the best my power.
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Str. "Theaetetus sits"-not a very long sentence.
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Theaet. Not very.
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Str. Of whom does the sentence speak, and who is the subject that is
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what you have to tell.
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Theaet. Of me; I am the subject.
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Str. Or this sentence, again-
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Theaet. What sentence?
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Str. "Theaetetus, with whom I am now speaking, is flying."
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Theaet. That also is a sentence which will be admitted by every
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one to speak of me, and to apply to me.
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Str. We agreed that every sentence must necessarily have a certain
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quality.
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And what is the quality of each of these two sentences?
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Theaet. The one, as I imagine, is false, and the other true.
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Str. The true says what is true about you?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And the false says what is other than true?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. And therefore speaks of things which are not as if they were?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And say that things are real of you which are not; for, as we
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were saying, in regard to each thing or person, there is much that
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is and much that is not.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. The second of the two sentences which related to you was
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first of all an example of the shortest form consistent with our
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definition.
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Theaet. Yes, this was implied in recent admission.
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Str. And, in the second place, it related to a subject?
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Theaet. Yes.
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Str. Who must be you, and can be nobody else?
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Theaet. Unquestionably.
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Str. And it would be no sentence at all if there were no subject,
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for, as we proved, a sentence which has no subject is impossible.
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. When other, then, is asserted of you as the same, and not-being
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as being, such a combination of nouns and verbs is really and truly
|
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false discourse.
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Theaet. Most true.
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Str. And therefore thought, opinion, and imagination are now
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proved to exist in our minds both as true and false.
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Theaet. How so?
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Str. You will know better if you first gain a knowledge of what they
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are, and in what they severally differ from one another.
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Theaet. Give me the knowledge which you would wish me to gain.
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Str. Are not thought and speech the same, with this exception,
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that what is called thought is the unuttered conversation of the
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soul with herself?
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Theaet. Quite true.
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Str. But the stream of thought which flows through the lips and is
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audible is called speech?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. And we know that there exists in speech...
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Theaet. What exists?
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Str. Affirmation.
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Theaet. Yes, we know it.
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Str. When the affirmation or denial takes Place in silence and in
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the mind only, have you any other name by which to call it but
|
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|
opinion?
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Theaet. There can be no other name.
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Str. And when opinion is presented, not simply, but in some form
|
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|
of sense, would you not call it imagination?
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Theaet. Certainly.
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Str. And seeing that language is true and false, and that thought is
|
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|
the conversation of the soul with herself, and opinion is the end of
|
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|
thinking, and imagination or phantasy is the union of sense and
|
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|
opinion, the inference is that some of them, since they are akin to
|
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|
language, should have an element of falsehood as well as of truth?
|
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Theaet. Certainly.
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|
Str. Do you perceive, then, that false opinion and speech have
|
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|
been discovered sooner than we expected?-For just now we seemed to
|
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|
be undertaking a task which would never be accomplished.
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Theaet. I perceive.
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Str. Then let us not be discouraged about the future; but now having
|
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|
made this discovery, let us go back to our previous classification.
|
||
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|
Theaet. What classification?
|
||
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Str. We divided image-making into two sorts; the one
|
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|
likeness-making, the other imaginative or phantastic.
|
||
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|
Theaet. True.
|
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Str. And we said that we were uncertain in which we should place the
|
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|
Sophist.
|
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Theaet. We did say so.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. And our heads began to go round more and more when it was
|
||
|
asserted that there is no such thing as an image or idol or
|
||
|
appearance, because in no manner or time or place can there ever be
|
||
|
such a thing as falsehood.
|
||
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|
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|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
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|
Str. And now, since there has been shown to be false speech and
|
||
|
false opinion, there may be imitations of real existences, and out
|
||
|
of this condition of the mind an art of deception may arise.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Quite possible.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And we have: already admitted, in what preceded, that the
|
||
|
Sophist was lurking in one of the divisions of the likeness-making
|
||
|
art?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Let us, then, renew the attempt, and in dividing any class,
|
||
|
always take the part to the right, holding fast to that which holds
|
||
|
the Sophist, until we have stripped him of all his common
|
||
|
properties, and reached his difference or peculiar. Then we may
|
||
|
exhibit him in his true nature, first to ourselves and then to kindred
|
||
|
dialectical spirits.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Very good.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. You may remember that all art was originally divided by us into
|
||
|
creative and acquisitive.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And the Sophist was flitting before us in the acquisitive
|
||
|
class, in the subdivisions of hunting, contests, merchandise, and
|
||
|
the like.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Very true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. But now that the imitative art has enclosed him, it is clear
|
||
|
that we must begin by dividing the art of creation; for imitation is a
|
||
|
kind of creation of images, however, as we affirm, and not of real
|
||
|
things.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. In the first place, there are two kinds of creation.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What are they?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. One of them is human and the other divine.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. I do not follow.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Every power, as you may remember our saying originally, which
|
||
|
causes things to exist, not previously existing, was defined by us
|
||
|
as creative.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. I remember.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Looking, now, at the world and all the animals and plants, at
|
||
|
things which grow upon the earth from seeds and roots, as well as at
|
||
|
inanimate substances which are formed within the earth, fusile or
|
||
|
non-fusile, shall we say that they come into existence-not having
|
||
|
existed previously-by the creation of God, or shall we agree with
|
||
|
vulgar opinion about them?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What is it?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. The opinion that nature brings them into being from some
|
||
|
spontaneous and unintelligent cause. Or shall we say that they are
|
||
|
created by a divine reason and a knowledge which comes from God?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. I dare say that, owing to my youth, I may often waver in
|
||
|
my view, but now when I look at you and see that you incline to
|
||
|
refer them to God, I defer to your authority.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Nobly said, Theaetetus, and if I thought that you were one of
|
||
|
those who would hereafter change your mind, I would have gently argued
|
||
|
with you, and forced you to assent; but as I perceive that you will
|
||
|
come of yourself and without any argument of mine, to that belief
|
||
|
which, as you say, attracts you, I will not forestall the work of
|
||
|
time. Let me suppose then, that things which are said to be made by
|
||
|
nature are the work of divine art, and that things which are made by
|
||
|
man out of these are work of human art. And so there are two kinds
|
||
|
of making and production, the one human and the other divine.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, now, subdivide each of the two sections which we have
|
||
|
already.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. How do you mean?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I mean to say that you should make a vertical division of
|
||
|
production or invention, as you have already made a lateral one.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. I have done so.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. Then, now, there are in all four parts or segments-two of
|
||
|
them have reference to us and are human, and two of them have
|
||
|
reference to the gods and are divine.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And, again, in the division which was supposed to be made in
|
||
|
the other way, one part in each subdivision is the making of the
|
||
|
things themselves, but the two remaining parts may be called the
|
||
|
making of likenesses; and so the productive art is again divided
|
||
|
into two parts.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Tell me the divisions once more.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. I suppose that we, and the other animals, and the elements
|
||
|
out of which things are made-fire, water, and the like-are known by us
|
||
|
to be each and all the creation and work of God.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And there are images of them, which are not them, but which
|
||
|
correspond to them; and these are also the creation of a wonderful
|
||
|
skill.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. What are they?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. The appearances which spring up of themselves in sleep or by
|
||
|
day, such as a shadow when darkness arises in a fire, or the
|
||
|
reflection which is produced when the light in bright and smooth
|
||
|
objects meets on their surface with an external light, and creates a
|
||
|
perception the opposite of our ordinary sight.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes; and the images as well as the creation are equally
|
||
|
the work of a divine hand.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And what shall we say of human art? Do we not make one house by
|
||
|
the art of building, and another by the art of drawing, which is a
|
||
|
sort of dream created by man for those who are awake?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Quite true.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And other products of human creation are twofold and go in
|
||
|
pairs; there is the thing, with which the art of making the thing is
|
||
|
concerned, and the image, with which imitation is concerned.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Now I begin to understand, and am ready to acknowledge
|
||
|
that there are two kinds of production, and each of them two fold;
|
||
|
in the lateral division there is both a divine and a human production;
|
||
|
in the vertical there are realities and a creation of a kind of
|
||
|
similitudes.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And let us not forget that of the imitative class the one
|
||
|
part to have been likeness making, and the other phantastic, if it
|
||
|
could be shown that falsehood is a reality and belongs to the class of
|
||
|
real being.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Str. And this appeared to be the case; and therefore now, without
|
||
|
hesitation, we shall number the different kinds as two.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. True.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Then, now, let us again divide the phantastic art.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Where shall we make the division?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There is one kind which is produced by an instrument, and
|
||
|
another in which the creator of the appearance is himself the
|
||
|
instrument.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. What do you mean?
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. When any one makes himself appear like another in his figure or
|
||
|
his voice, imitation is the name for this part of the phantastic art.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Let this, then, be named the art of mimicry, and this the
|
||
|
province assigned to it; as for the other division, we are weary and
|
||
|
will give that up, leaving to some one else the duty of making the
|
||
|
class and giving it a suitable name.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Let us do as you say-assign a sphere to the one and leave
|
||
|
the other.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There is a further distinction, Theaetetus, which is worthy
|
||
|
of our consideration, and for a reason which I will tell you.
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Let me hear.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. There are some who imitate, knowing what they imitate, and some
|
||
|
who do not know. And what line of distinction can there possibly be
|
||
|
greater than that which divides ignorance from knowledge?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. There can be no greater.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Was not the sort of imitation of which we spoke just now the
|
||
|
imitation of those who know? For he who would imitate you would surely
|
||
|
know you and your figure?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. Naturally.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And what would you say of the figure or form of justice or of
|
||
|
virtue in general? Are we not well aware that many, having no
|
||
|
knowledge of either, but only a sort of opinion, do their best to show
|
||
|
that this opinion is really entertained by them, by expressing it,
|
||
|
as far as they can, in word and deed?
|
||
|
|
||
|
Theaet. Yes, that is very common.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. And do they always fail in their attempt to be thought just,
|
||
|
when they are not? Or is not the very opposite true?
|
||
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|
||
|
Theaet. The very opposite.
|
||
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|
||
|
Str. Such a one, then, should be described as an imitator-to be
|
||
|
distinguished from the other, as he who is ignorant is distinguished
|
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from him who knows?
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Theaet. True.
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Str. Can we find a suitable name for each of them? This is clearly
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not an easy task; for among the ancients there was some confusion of
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ideas, which prevented them from attempting to divide genera into
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species; wherefore there is no great abundance of names. Yet, for
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the sake of distinctness, I will make bold to call the imitation which
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coexists with opinion, the imitation of appearance-that which coexists
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with science, a scientific or learned imitation.
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Theaet. Granted.
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Str. The former is our present concern, for the Sophist was
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classed with imitators indeed, but not among those who have knowledge.
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Theaet. Very true.
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Str. Let us, then, examine our imitator of appearance, and see
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whether he is sound, like a piece of iron, or whether there is still
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some crack in him.
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Theaet. Let us examine him.
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Str. Indeed there is a very considerable crack; for if you look, you
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find that one of the two classes of imitators is a simple creature,
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who thinks that he knows that which he only fancies; the other sort
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has knocked about among arguments, until he suspects and fears that he
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is ignorant of that which to the many he pretends to know.
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Theaet. There are certainly the two kinds which you describe.
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Str. Shall we regard one as the simple imitator-the other as the
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dissembling or ironical imitator?
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Theaet. Very good.
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Str. And shall we further speak of this latter class as having one
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or two divisions?
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Theaet. Answer yourself.
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Str. Upon consideration, then, there appear to me to be two; there
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is the dissembler, who harangues a multitude in public in a long
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speech, and the dissembler, who in private and in short speeches
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compels the person who is conversing with him to contradict himself.
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Theaet. What you say is most true.
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Str. And who is the maker of the longer speeches? Is he the
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statesman or the popular orator?
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Theaet. The latter.
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Str. And what shall we call the other? Is he the philosopher or
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the Sophist?
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Theaet. The philosopher he cannot be, for upon our view he is
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ignorant; but since he is an imitator of the wise he will have a
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name which is formed by an adaptation of the word sothos. What shall
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we name him? I am pretty sure that I cannot be mistaken in terming him
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the true and very Sophist.
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Str. Shall we bind up his name as we did before, making a chain from
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one end of his genealogy to the other?
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Theaet. By all means.
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Str. He, then, who traces the pedigree of his art as follows-who,
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belonging to the conscious or dissembling section of the art of
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causing self-contradiction, is an imitator of appearance, and is
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separated from the class of phantastic which is a branch of
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image-making into that further division of creation, the juggling of
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words, a creation human, and not divine-any one who affirms the real
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Sophist to be of this blood and lineage will say the very truth.
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Theaet. Undoubtedly.
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-THE END-
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