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Original Message Date: 20 Apr 92 20:35:18
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From: Karen Maynor on 1:3640/5
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To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111
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Subj: distributing fidonews
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^AMSGID: 1:3640/5@FidoNet.Org 378127be
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> re: CDROMing FidoNews:
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> YOu have my permission to include FidoNews's on your
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> CD-ROM, assuming there are no restrictions put upon the users of the
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> data, ie. no copy limitations or further restrictions of any kind. Ie.
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thanks so much.. no, there aren't any restrictions.. the stuff is <20>
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shareware, so after they buy it, they can do anything they wish with the <20>
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disc..
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> Can I talk you into giving me a copy?
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of course! I would have offered one already, but I wasn't aware that you <20>
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had a cd-rom drive.. just let me know an address to send it to when it is <20>
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ready.. we're hoping to go to press within 2 weeks or so.. sure has been <20>
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much more work than I originally had anticipated on.
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> (I know what mastering CDs costs... I have friends
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> that do it all the time, for music and for data.)
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actually it isn't as expensive as one would imagine.. before we checked <20>
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into it, i assumed it would be 5000.00 or more..
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> I love to see people profit from their own work. I
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> hope you make lots of money!
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hehehe.. me too! :)
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> What I *dont* want to see is access to
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> FidoNet stuff limited, nor exploited.
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since we're in fidonet, i'm trying to promote fido as much as we can. same <20>
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with friends of mine that are shareware authors.. which reminds me, would <20>
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you have any of your work that you would like to include?
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> If you have a small datasheet or equiv. mail me a copy...
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> I'll break the news in FidoNews itself, and
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> see how much I get flamed... :-)
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ok, i'll work something up in the next couple of weeks.. i sure appreciate <20>
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your offer to say a little something about it in fidonews.. but if you <20>
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think it would get too many people 'hot' then don't do it.. i'd love the <20>
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advertisement of it, but seems theres enough 'wars' going on as it is.. <20>
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so, i'll leave that judgement call totally up to you. :)
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also, i've been having a little trouble actually finding all these old <20>
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copies.. i saw a message in an echo that thom henderson had them all, but <20>
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he's not in the nodelist.. the address that was given was 107/517.. i sent <20>
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a netmail message to this person asking them to zip them all up and i <20>
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would poll for them, but no repsonse as of yet.. could you offer a little <20>
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help in finding them? :)
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thanks so much. and if you'd like to follow up with a voice call, feel <20>
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free to call anytime (collect if you wish) myself or my husband, Mark at <20>
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(912)882-0754. we're in Georgia.
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btw, I really admired your editorial in fidonews 912. maybe i'll 'come <20>
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out' in fido one of these days. :) or maybe better yet, tell of all the <20>
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sexual harassment in fidonet. definately would be juicy. ah well.
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regards, Karen
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> of course! I would have offered one already, but I wasn't aware
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> that you had a cd-rom drive.. just let me know an address to
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> send it to when it is ready.. we're hoping to go to press within
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A friend does. I keep looking at them. One of these days now... World<6C>
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Power Systems, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107. Thanks!
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> 2 weeks or so.. sure has been much more work than I originally
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> had anticipated on.
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He he ... I've heard that one before!!! :-)
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> appreciate your offer to say a little something about it in
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> fidonews.. but if you think it would get too many people 'hot'
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> then don't do it.. i'd love the advertisement of it, but seems
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> theres enough 'wars' going on as it is.. so, i'll leave that
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> judgement call totally up to you. :)
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Will do. I'll take a look at copy of you send me such, decicde then...
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> address that was given was 107/517.. i sent a netmail message to
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> this person asking them to zip them all up and i would poll for
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> them, but no repsonse as of yet.. could you offer a little help
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> in finding them? :)
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Unfortunately, I dont know where they are. I thought Henderson had<61>
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them. They are many megabytes... I'll send a msg to someone else in<69>
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his net.
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> btw, I really admired your editorial in fidonews 912. maybe i'll
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> 'come out' in fido one of these days. :) or maybe better yet,
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Thanks! I always urge everyone to come out... its fun! Mix up your<75>
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life! (I truly cannot recall one instance where it hurt. Some<6D>
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"friends" end up not being so. No loss! Turmoil, yes...! )
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> tell of all the sexual harassment in fidonet. definately would
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> be juicy. ah well.
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Please do! If you could turn it into a parable or a non-accusatory<72>
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thing (ie. not a rant) it will work wonders... having been around<6E>
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organized and non-organized political and social stuff a long time,<2C>
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I've noticed that the "from askance" approach works best... I don't<>
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have much patience with the all-too-common whining liberal males<65>
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(usually) getting touchy about their absolute right to do absolutely<6C>
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anything they please, but practically-speaking, an askance approach<63>
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works wonders...
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I always mean to do an expiriment: call a local popular and vanilla<6C>
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BBS as "Sarah JOnes" or whatever, and enter some very straightforward<72>
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and contrived messages, and log the replies, then repeat as "John<68>
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Jones" (etc) and repeat. I think with the right set of<6F>
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messages/content I could generate an interestng article...
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Original Message Date: 15 Apr 92 23:08:44
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From: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111
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To: Karen Maynor on 1:3640/5
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Subj: re: distributing fidonews
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^AINTL 1:3640/5 1:125/111
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re: CDROMing FidoNews:
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YOu have my permission to include FidoNews's on your CD-ROM, assuming
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there are no restrictions put upon the users of the data, ie. no copy
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limitations or further restrictions of any kind. Ie. if I get the
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CD-ROM, I am free (within existing copyrights, etc that already exist)
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to copy those files further. (The rest I dont care about... :-)
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Can I talk you into giving me a copy?
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(I know what mastering CDs costs... I have friends that do it all the
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time, for music and for data.)
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I love to see people profit from their own work. I hope you make lots
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of money! What I *dont* want to see is access to FidoNet stuff limited,
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nor exploited. The flip side is access on readily available media.
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Each decision is hard. If you have a small datasheet or equiv. mail me
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a copy... I'll break the news in FidoNews itself, and see how much I
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get flamed... :-)
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Original Message Date: 14 Apr 92 02:48:22
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From: Karen Maynor on 1:3640/5
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To: Tom Jennings on 1:1/1
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Subj: distributing fidonews
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^APID: FM 2.02
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> Well, I wish you had given me more notice... most
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Well, I thought of adding fidonews kinda at the last minute.. :) but <20>
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theres really still time.. if it means waiting to get permission to add <20>
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fidonews, I will wait.
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> If you can get me soemthing, in writing, that
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> describes the project,including howe much you will charge (remember <20>
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FidoNet
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> is quite thoroughly non-commercial), I'll look it over, give
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Well, lets see.. theres so much to it.. first, its gonna be called SDN <20>
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International On CD-ROM. We have permission from Ray Kaliss of The SDN <20>
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Project to use the SDN name/logo and security archiver Pak from NoGate. We <20>
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also have written permission from Nogate.
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The layout of the disc will mainly be focused on the SDN's different <20>
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areas. IE: Utils, database, communications, business, misc, word <20>
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processing, etc etc.. These will all be archived with an extension of SDN. <20>
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The idea is author-direct shareware. Since a cd-rom can hold up to 680mb <20>
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or so, and the SDN hasn't passed that much, we will be making SDN archives <20>
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from floppies that authors have sent us.
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Also included will be the latest sysop type utilities. James Smith owner <20>
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of TpBoard has written in direct support for our disc, and also has given <20>
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us permission to put FrontDoor on our disc. FD is not normally allowed to <20>
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be put on cd-rom media.
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Boardwatch Magazine has given us permission to include all their back <20>
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issues on the disc also.
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We have a custom 'door' written for our disc, called MegaDoor.. Very nice <20>
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door... :)
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> with paper followup. Otherwise, don't include FidoNews
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> without written permission from me.
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As you can see from above, we're getting permission from the major players <20>
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to include their materials on the disc.. I wouldn't put fnews on our disc <20>
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without your authorization - even though I am fairly certain I have seen <20>
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copies of it on another shareware cd out there..
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> FidoNet's non-commercial nature pretty much limits
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> tings to not-for-profit, ie. charging not much more than yuor
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> producti no costs.
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well, we're not 100% certain on the discs exact cost as of yet... Most of <20>
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the discs out there run from $80.00 to over $250.00 for a PC-SIG disc... <20>
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To produce a cd-rom disc can run in the 3000-5000 dollar range.. Most of <20>
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the discs I've seen have been a BBS that has backed up their hard drive <20>
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and had it pressed into a disc.. Thats not what we're doing.. We're trying <20>
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to get as many 'authorized' things as possible as we can on the disc.. <20>
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Plus, add to the fact of the many many hours we've been spending scanning <20>
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and re-archiving files into SDNs (and creating SDA's for them - yuck). <20>
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Even though we'll probably spend a helluva lot more time than your average <20>
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person on this project, it will most likely be in the 49.00 dollar range.. <20>
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Yeah, we'll make a little money, but not any killing by no means. :)
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And you might wonder why I'd like to add fidonews to the disc... Well, I <20>
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haven't been in fido all that long.. Only about a year and half.. But in <20>
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that time I've formed a net, became a moderator of a pretty large echo, <20>
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and made soooo many close friends thru fido... Fidonews can be our main <20>
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way of communicating... Its a constant... My first NC gave me a copy of <20>
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fnews with policy4 when we wanted to join... Not every node gets the same <20>
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sysop
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echo, but we all can get fidonews.. Since I've only been in fido for a <20>
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short period of time, I personally would love to read back thru all the <20>
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old issues.. What history it would be.. Kinda like opening up a time <20>
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capsule.. :) It would give me such pleasure to be able to distribute <20>
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fidonews to such a large volume of people... When I moved here, no one had <20>
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even heard of fidonet (including the local sysops).. What a shame.. And <20>
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I'm sure theres many other little towns that haven't either.. Perhaps if <20>
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someone downloaded a copy of fnews from the disc, they might get <20>
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interested enough to join... So, its kinda a personal thing... :)
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Hope to hear from you soon.
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Thanks so much, Karen
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