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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 07 14 Feb 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
| / \ | |
| /|oo \ | |
| (_| /_) | |
| _`@/_ \ _ | |
| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
| |__U__| / \// | |
| _//|| _\ / | |
| (_/(_|(____/ | |
| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
1. HEADLINES ................................................ 1
In this issue ............................................ 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
My Thoughts on Fidonet ................................... 2
First Principles, Part II ................................ 3
3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 6
Response to Jim Rysyk .................................... 6
Notice of Suit ........................................... 6
4. ARTICLES ................................................. 8
Roses .................................................... 8
5. COLUMNS .................................................. 11
This Weeks Web Page ...................................... 11
Ol'WDB: Refurbished Words of Wisdom ...................... 11
6. NET HUMOR ................................................ 13
Fido-Shortie ............................................. 13
7. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 14
More Udderly Cool Cows ................................... 14
8. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 15
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 15
9. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 20
Masthead ................................................. 20
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HEADLINES
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In this issue...
... editorial input is supplied by David Smith in Part II of his
series, this week examining how Fido would work without ZMH and
FTS0001. Darrell Salter contributes his editorial input questioning
the propriety of Policy which isn't ratified by sysops.
... letters to the editor include a succinct bitch by Fido's leading
Super-Bitch, and the threat of a lawsuit by Fido's premier whiner.
... Frank Vest continues his visits to Fido-Related Web Sites, this
week running into a language barrier. Ol'WDB contributes words of
wisdom specifically refurbished for this new millenium.
... the Fido Funnybone is still piped into Fidonews, this week with
a shortie and even more cool cows.
... finally, your editor attempts to substitute for a travelling Joe
Jared with updates to the Internet listings. One can only hope for
the return of Joe to restore structure to the listing :)
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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My Thoughts on Fidonet, 12/2/2000
by Darrell Salter
This is the third edition of "My Thoughts on Fidonet", the original
being written in 1997 when I was the NC (Network Coordinator) of Net
229. This document is originally posted on the web at
http://sparkys.dyndns.org and you can check there first for updates
to my writings. These documents have been consequently posted from
the web site to various publications like Fidonews. It seems to be
an editorial that has taken on a life of it's own because I get so
much mail and so many comments about it, both positive and negative.
Please, keep writing to me, I enjoy your comments, whether you agree
with me or not. Fidonet is, after all, an association that was built
on anarchistic principles, and is all about free and open
communication.
Yet again, a dangerous thing has been attempted (do people never
learn?). A bunch of policy-thumping sysops marched into the FN_SYSOP
echo and started spouting off about the new and improved proposed
changes to Policy document #4. Hello? Was P4 ever sysop-ratified in
the first place? It wasn't of course, and they know it. So what were
they trying to do? Some of them probably thought the proposed ideas
had merit and were genuinely trying to fix that sorry excuse for a
policy document. But I think the real reason was far more insidious.
They thought if they could get the sysops of Fidonet to approve a
few minor changes that looked good to the sysops, it would
constitute an approval for the whole document. Wrong! Nice try.
Policy 4 has never been given the seal of approval from the sysops
it is supposed to represent. What was done some 10 years ago was
that a group of sysops known as RCs (Regional Coordinators) approved
it. Why? Because P4 gave the RCs far-reaching powers to rule over
the sysops of Fidonet. It was objected to then, and it is objected
to now. If the policy thumpers want to add even more to Policy 4 and
have it approved, they must get a sysop ratification of it. I don't
care if they present the old P4, or a new one, for sysop
ratification, but it needs to be voted on by the sysops in it's
entirety.
The challenge was laid out to the policy thumpers to have a sysop
vote for their beloved document so as to settle this issue once and
for all. Their reaction was typical and three-fold. First, they
tried to claim that P4 was already ratified. Excuse me?
SYSOP-RATIFICATION PLEASE, not RC ratification, for obvious reasons.
Second, they coordinated a vicious attack of character assassination
against those of us that were putting a wrinkle in their plans. This
culminated with their arrogant proclamation, "if you don't like it,
get out of Fidonet"! Um, excuse me again, but this is not a network
belonging to the policy thumpers. They do not decide who stays and
who leaves. The sysops do, collectively. In fact, this entire
network belongs to the sysops, lock, stock, and barrel. We, the
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sysops, will decide all issues, thank you very much. Third, they
bailed out in retreat. Once exposed, the policy thumpers scurried
away in defeat to regroup. Some of them scrambled over to the Z1C
echo where they attempted to enlist the Zone One Coordinator to help
them in their crusade. Some others scrambled for the "moral
high-ground" where they sit now and extol their virtuous pasts and
stroke themselves with stories of glory days gone by when sysops
were intimidated by policy, and those that used it to berate and
belittle their fellow sysops. A few have stuck around to snipe at us
but their guns, like their arguments, are empty. The end result was
that no sysop ratification vote is being coordinated by the policy
thumpers. They know all to well that sysops simply want to be left
alone to run their systems as they see fit without some
glory-seeking mob of beaurocratic wankers telling them what they
must or must not do with their own computers, modems, phone lines
and/or Internet connections.
Comments: Write to me at r12c@sprk.com, or send me netmail at
1:12/0.
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First Principles
Part II in a Series examining ZMH and FTS001 Issues
David B. Smith, American Tune BBS (1:2410/104)
Have been following the should-we-or-shouldn't-we discussions about
ZMH & FTS-001 for a while, and haven't been firmly convinced by
either side. Something's missing in both arguements.
Why is ZMH important? Why is FTS-001 important?
Direct Netmail. Heavy on the "direct." If I don't follow ZMH,
and/or if I don't comply with FTS-001, you won't be able to send me
direct netmail, and with the latter, I may not be able to send you
direct netmail.
Naturally, that's always been considered important -- because in the
beginning, that's -all- Fidonet was about -- direct netmail. Tom
Jennings and his friends would send messages directly one to
another, and that was it. No echomail, no filebones, not even
routed netmail. Just Direct Netmail.
As I have pointed out elsewhere, ZMH and FTS-001 appear to me to be
focused at accomplishing the exact opposite of what's causing all
the arguments. Direct Netmail requires only one hour a day, and
only one minimal standard, so that Fidonet impacts as little as
possible on the primary objective -- the local BBS, with it's own
local discussions, local gaming groups, local character & local
color.
And they exist only to consistently allow for -one- function, the
first functionality offered by Fidonet, which is Direct Netmail.
All the arguments for these two (other than "but it's Policy") have
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been "If you don't follow those standards, I can't send you Netmail,
so the Net is broken." Well, sorta.
If you assume that sending and recieving -Direct- Netmail is
absolutely vital to Fidonet.
I don't think it is. Sure, in a "spiritual" sense, perhaps.
"Grasshopper, when you can snatch the netmail from my modem, then
it's time for you to kill the Prince, go to America and make sappy
TV programs." It is the oldest Fidonet technical function. But it
isn't the only function, and it certainly isn't the most important,
and hasn't been for years.
And no Blue Lightning flashed down from the sky and struck me dead
when I said that. <g>
The individual BBS is the most important thing. Fidonet is valuable
to the extent that those individual, unique venues also produce
content that can add value to other unique BBSes, and Fidonet gets
it there.
Direct Netmail is "necessary" in joining Fidonet to demonstrate a
successful connection to Fidonet, the ability to move mail. But I
haven't recieved any direct netmail in a long time, and I have
completely given up sending any. Can't afford to. Even my "local"
network isn't local to me, and I can't afford to call directly from
my system to theirs.
And you just recieved this message. The mail got moved anyway.
Why? Because without making a direct POTS call to the next areacode
over, I used my Internet connection to deliver it. I can probably
succeed in sending netmails to everybody in this echo, using that
same method of connection. Not direct, routed. But netmail. I'm
successfully connected to Fidonet.
The only necessity for ZMH comes from Direct Netmail. And the only
necessity for FTS-001 compliance is to insure ability for Direct
Netmail. And if you lost Direct Netmail abilities, probably nobody
would notice.
If my mailer had blown up permanently at Y2K (which almost happened)
and I'd entirely lost my ability to send or recieve Direct Netmail,
my ability to practically communicate with any other functioning
Fidonet node in the world would have been effected not one whit.
File moving? The Internet using a couple-three techniques.
Person-to-person messaging within Fidonet? Routed netmail.
Absolutely must be private messages? Internet email, which can be
encrypted, for that matter.
But what if I absolutely, positively must get a message to you
-right now-?? An LD phone call. Direct netmail, especially during
ZMH, won't get to -you- (as compared to your Board) till you wake up
in the morning.
Direct Netmail is a Real Nifty Trick. It's been around an awfully
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long while, and there's kind of a sentamental attachment to it. To
Fidonet, it's like Code requirements to be Ham, or Full Immersion
Baptism. But let us finally realize that it is not the be-all and
end-all of Fidonet.
If you can do it, great, more power to you. If you can't, you're
missing something -- but you're not missing Fidonet.
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FIDONEWS 17-07 Page 6 14 Feb 2000
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Netmail from Lesley-Dee Dylan
1:250/201
Douglas I feel a strong need to respond to Jim Rysyk's article, but
I also will understand if you refuse to print my response.
Here it is.
RESPONSE TO JIM RYSYK'S ARTICLE
FUCK OFF!
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Notice of Suit
email from "The Hunter" <chasers1@netzero.net>
This is notice of suit to you, JIM HENRY AND AIRPOWER BBS AND
DOUGLAS MYERS AND ROSS CASSELL AND FIDONET (AS AN UNINCORPORATED
ASSOCIATION AND IT'S ASSOCIATION MEMBERS).
Suit will instituted against you without further notice for breach
of contract, tortious interference with advantageous contractual
relationships, defamation/libel/slander as applicable and for other
counts/basis which can be developed. Subject to my further
research, this may include an action brought under the Federal
Racketeer Influenced Corrupt organizations statute.
Whereas you are all members of Fidonet, Fido and Fidonews you are
being served as such members by this notice.
---------------
Subsequent message received from the same source:
---------------
It is interesting that you moderated me AND contacted my sysop to
the point that he locked me out of his board. You moderated me
because I made "threats" of legal action without regard to the fact
that I had grounds for such legal action. Now you have me in the
situation where I cannot post to your conference, while your other
posters post about me and slam me.
Interesting how jerks like you preserve only your own freedoms and
ignore those of others. See you, your bbs and paonline in court.
---------------
Editor's Response: Your juvenile bid for attention is hereby
acknowledged; however, I cannot take seriously the legal threats
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which you make. Your deportment in your corrospondance to me and in
the FIDONEWS echo in which you've posted lead me to believe that you
are a child who does not receive the benefit of parantal supervision
in his internet or bbs activities.
Further, you have described a history of interaction with Fidonet
sysops and moderators which exhibit the same immaturity of thought
you've demonstrated to me. I believe it's a reasonable conclusion
on their part that you are a child. I don't believe that any court
of law would punish these adults for denying you access to their
bbses or confirences - you see, society expects adults to remove
children from situations in which they might get hurt... and you've
told us time and again that this experience hurts you.
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ARTICLES
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I got this from Ol'WDB, though he didn't send it in for publication.
Nonetheless, I thought it was a fitting sentiment for this
Valentine's Day edition of Fidonews :)
ROSES
Red roses were her favorites,
her name was also Rose.
And every year her husband sent them,
tied with pretty bows.
The year he died,
the roses were delivered to her door.
The card said, "Be my Valentine,"
like all the years before.
Each year he sent her roses,
and the note would always say,
"I love you even more this year,
than last year on this day.
My love for you will always grow,
with every passing year."
She knew this was the last time
that the roses would appear.
She thought, he ordered roses
in advance before this day.
Her loving husband did not know,
that he would pass away.
He always liked to do things early,
way before the time.
Then, if he got too busy,
everything would work out fine.
She trimmed the stems,
and placed them in a very special vase.
Then, sat the vase
bside the portrait of his smiling face.
She would sit for hours,
in her husband's favorite chair.
While staring at his picture,
and the roses sitting there.
A year went by,
and it was hard to live without her mate.
With loneliness and solitude,
that had become her fate.
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Then, the very hour,
as on Valentines before,
The doorbell rang, and there were roses,
sitting by her door.
She brought the roses in,
and then just looked at them in shock.
Then, went to get the telephone,
to call the florist shop.
The owner answered, and she asked him,
if he would explain,
Why would someone do this to her,
causing her such pain?
"I know your husband passed away,
more than a year ago,"
The owner said, "I knew you'd call,
and you would want to know.
The flowers you received today,
were paid for in advance.
Your husband always planned ahead,
he left nothing to chance.
There is a standing order,
that I have on file down here,
And he has paid, well in advance,
you'll get them every year.
There also is another thing,
that I think you should know,
He wrote a special little card...he did this years go.
Then, should ever I find out that he's no longer here,
That's the card...that should be sent,
to you the following year."
She thanked him and hung up the phone,
her tears now flowing hard.
Her fingers shaking,
as she slowly reached to get the card.
Inside the card, she saw
that he had written her a note.
Then, as she stared in total silence,
this is what he wrote...
"Hello my love,
I know it's been a year since I've been gone,
I hope it hasn't been too hard
for you to overcome.
I know it must be lonely,
and the pain is very real.
Or if it was the other way,
I know how I would feel.
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The love we shared made everything
so beautiful in life.
I loved you more than words can say,
you were the perfect wife.
You were my friend and lover,
you fulfilled my every need.
I know it's only been a year,
but please try not to grieve.
I want you to be happy,
even when you shed your tears.
That is why the roses will
be sent to you for years.
When you get these roses,
think of all the happiness,
That we had together,
and how both of us were blessed.
I have always loved you
and I know I always will.
But, my love, you must go on,
you have some living still.
Please...try to find happiness,
while living out your days.
I know it is not easy,
but I hope you find some ways.
The roses will come every year,
and they will only stop,
When your door's not answered,
when the florist stops to knock.
He will come five times that day,
in case you have gone out.
But after his last visit,
he will know without a doubt,
To take the roses to the place,
where I've instructed him.
And place the roses where we are,
together once again.
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COLUMNS
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This Weeks Web Page
By Frank Vest
Name: Welcome to NiNoNet
Where: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/
What's it got?:
Never let it be said I don't like a page because I can't read it. :)
This ia a Russian page for Net5015 in Zone2. First, it's not all in
Russian. The header is in english. There are options for DOS KOI-8
WIN MAC towards the bottom of the page. I love the dog. It's a
floppy eared "hound" looking dog lying on the top edge of a 3.5
floppy. :)
The page is mainly a header page to offer options mentioned above
for operating systems. I'll assume these are for the fonts connected
with different operating systems to display the Russian properly.
Once you've chosen the operating system, you're taken to a page
that, other than the dog and a strip on the left side of the page
with the Zone and Net, is unreadable to me. What can I say, my
language is limited.
If you're Russian, this would be a great page to look at. Even if
you're not Russian, check it out. The dog is worth a look. :)
Side note. I wish someone from these countries would review some of
these pages and write articles about them. Being able to translate
these pages would add much to the reviews.
Till next time. :)
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Refurbished Words of Wisdom
Ol'WDB
1. Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of
me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just
leave me the hell alone.
2. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt
and a leaky tire.
3. It's always darkest before dawn. So, if you're going to steal the
neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
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4. It's a small world. So you gotta use your elbows a lot.
5. Sex is like air; it's not important unless you're not getting
any.
6. We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.
7. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to
fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
8. I don't have a license to kill. I have a learner's permit.
9. Taxation WITH representation isn't so hot either!
10. If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
11. Some days you are the bug, and some days you are the windshield.
12. Don't worry. It's only seems kinky the first time.
13. If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
14. Don't squat with spurs on.
15. Never ask a barber if you need a haircut.
16. Good judgment comes from bad experience and a lot of that comes
from bad judgment.
17. Never miss a chance to shut up.
18. Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is
moving.
19. Anything worth taking seriously is worth making fun of.
20. Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their
shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and
you have their shoes.
21. Experience is something you don't get until just after you need
it.
22. Hey! You can't tell me experience... I'll get it the hard way!
23. The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.
24. If you don't feel close to God anymore, guess who moved.
25. A real friend is one who walks in when the rest of the world
walks out.
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NET HUMOR
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Humor
Fido-Shortie
Ol'wdb
A Chicago salesman on a business trip to Boston had a few hours to
kill before catching a plane home. Remembering an old friend's
advice to try some broiled scrod,,... a favorite fish in Boston, he
hopped into a cab and asked the driver, "Say, do you know where I
could get scrod around here?"
The driver replied, "Pal, I've heard that question a thousand
times, but this is the first time in the passive pluperfect
subjunctive."
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COMIX IN ASCII
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____________________________
(__) / \
(oo) ( More Udderly Cool Cows! )
/-------\/ --'\____________________________/
/ | ||
* ||----||
^^ ^^
Cow
\ /
\_____________/
/\___________/\
---------- Cow in / /\_________/\ \
|\ \ trouble / / /\_______/\ \ \
| ---------- / / / / (__) /\ \ \ \
| | (__) | ___/_/_/_/_ (oo) \_\_\_\_\___
\ | (oo) | \ \ \ \ \ \/ / / / / /
\ | \/ | \ \ \ \/_____\/ / / /
---------- \ \ \/_______\/ / /
Ice Cowbe \ \/_________\/ /
\/___________\/
/ \
/ \
o _____________
/\ / \
[__] ( take off, eh! )
__ | \ / (oo) ----'\_____________/
\/----///\ /-------\/
*/\______(xx) / | ||__|
( ) * ||----| U
^^ ^
Pro-democracy cow Canadian Cow
from Beijing
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INTERNET INFO
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! = New entries this week
? = not responding
?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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Last update: Feb 13, 2000
FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
List server:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: <Vacant>
Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
FIDONEWS 17-07 Page 16 14 Feb 2000
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29 : http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ (Dutch)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
FIDONEWS 17-07 Page 17 14 Feb 2000
v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP,BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | DS-3,5| $5/$15 mo
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Fidonet oriented news servers
news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.isonline.com
irc.killaz-r-us.com
irc.korombos.org
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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Pending additions to the Fidonet by Internet hubs*:
2:292/624 | Steven Leeman | Tranx | 64k | N/C
tranx: skynetbbs@softhome.net
2:292/620 | Eddy Missoul | Telnet, tranx | Adsl 64k |N/C
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telnet: bbs.cabdrivers.com
tranx: tranx@cabdrivers.com
*Joe is travelling this week, so I attempted corrections. However,
I'm not sure how he integrates Transx nor Telenat, so here's the
information raw, pending Joe's magic touch :)
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