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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 11 15 March 1999
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
Nodus Operandi - an application of Cole's Law ............ 2
3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4
In response to Rob Echler's recent submission: ........... 4
4. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
NAB & Z1B Echo Diff ...................................... 5
The Fido/IP project: Fidonet's future - Successful and ... 5
InterMail/InterEcho Has a New Owner! ..................... 7
North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb] ........... 7
Another sad article? ..................................... 8
Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb] ....................... 9
5. NOTICES .................................................. 11
6. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 12
Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 12
7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17
8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 1 15 Mar 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
Will those readers who submit articles, please note, that when
submitting such articles please ensure you send them in standard
ASCII format. No HTML, thank you.
My Internet address system, is a plain Linux system. ;-)
Will some kind sole, please send something for the readers out
there in explaining what has been happening with the breakup of the
Z1 backbone? But please, do apply KISS. Thanks. <g>
I've had a few questions about it, but not residing in Z1, I cannot
clearly provide the correct or any answer. Thanks again. <g>
Does it not makes you cry, reading all those sad stories about how
good FidoNet was and why they, the authors, are leaving? ;-)
Hey, we know it's good, it always was good and always will be good,
provided, we get rid of P4. Common, do we really need P4? Take
some of those characters, they not sure how to read, nevermind P4. ;-)
Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 2 15 Mar 1999
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Nodus Operandi - an application of Cole's Law
Nodus Operandi
An Application of Cole's Law
Douglas Myers, 1:279/720, doug@mdtnbbs.com
Regular readers of the Zone 1 echoes realize that Fidonet is
governed by two great documents: the organizational writings of
Policy 4 and the thinly sliced cabbage of Cole's Law. Tom Cole, the
author of the latter living document, revealed yet another subtlety
of interpersonal communication last week in a new section of his
policy entitled Nodus Operandi.
Nodus Operandi basically allows for multiple personality
identification based on node number. This is not a new treatment
for schizophrenia, but rather a method of distinguishing between a
person as the sysop or as the coordinator. Simply put,
coordinators must post from their /0 node number when they wish to
speak as coordinator, or from their "real" node number when posting
as a sysop.
This bit of administrative legerdemain was in response to the
prospect of a Policy Complaint being filed against Tom. Tom
contends that the aggrieved party would have to file the complaint
with Tom /0 rather than the RC because Tom's posts were made using
his "real" node number. Many have complained about the prospect of
Tom the NC sitting in judgement of Tom the sysop, but few recognize
that Mr. Cole may just be onto something here.
Why not have administrative node numbers for special purposes? For
example, when David Hallford is engaged in pizza acquisition, I (for
one) would like to know. Martin Blecke recently refused to divulge
his personal opinion on how the Z1C should be selected on the basis
that folks would interpret it as his official opinion (the official
position presumably being based on his region's input). If he would
just post using his "real" node number, then there would be no
ambiguity.
I, personally, would be willing to switch the AKA matching software
off in my mailer and BBS to gain the many benefits of posting from
special node numbers. I could maintain one node number when I'm
posting as an Ace Fidonews Reporter and another when I'm posting in
the chat echoes as a Lounge Lizard. That way, when I strike out, it
wouldn't impugn on the good name of Fidonews... and when I post a
dry, uninteresting Fidonews article, I could flirt in the SUPERBITCH
echo.
One should not be afraid to examine the runes in the cabbage leaves
for a good idea. After all, ancient cultures examined entrails for
enlightenment.
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 3 15 Mar 1999
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FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 4 15 Mar 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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I have been in associated with Fidonet since 1990. While that may not
be as long as some, but it's longer than others. When I first joined
Fidonet I was amazed at the vast amount of information being spread
around. There was an echo for just about anyone. I was sold. I
learned much of what I know in several areas today due to Fidonet and
the geat poeple associated with it. Their names are too many to list.
Infact I owe much of my currently career in the Infomation Technology
industry to Fidonet.
We are in new times. Many don't even know what a BBS or Fidonet is
anymore. We are not main stream. However, the amount of information
being disseminated is still amzing. I recently devloped a intrest in
getting my kids involved in precision shooting and learning how to
hand load ammunition. I post messages in a couple relevant echoes.
Because of these posts and the subsequent replies my kids and I were
able to attend a local course on high power shooting. They really
liked it. We met some really great people, most of whom are not
associated with Fidonet, over the course of the past two weekends.
I have received a vast amount of help and information in regards to
hand loading. It has enabled to to learn from the mistakes of others
and avoid making the same mistakes myself.
The only complaint I have ever had with Fidonet is the well earned
stigma of it really being "Fight-O-Net". I really wish the powers
that be within the Fidonet infastructure would learn to live in
harmony. I know that years ago in my own net we were stuck in the
muck of "back room politics" and ego's clashing. We worked to get
out of this and we did. We lost some nodes. But we are a much better
group now.
In my opinon we have people here that need to try and make Fidonet not
so complicated and work together to keep this great communications
medium alive and healthy. As with everything else we need to evolve
or die out. I honestly feel that if Fidonet's people do not get their
acts together we might fade away into the dark of night. We need to
get back to the basics. This is a amateur mail/message network. Do
we really need all of these extra groups and commitees that are still
point fingers, making accusations, and squabbling over basically the
same things they have been for years?
If Fidonet continues to thrive it's to our benefit an credit. If
Fidonet dies out it's all our fault too. What do we want?
Rgds,
Don Waybright
internet email: don@net264.org
Fidonet 1:264 : http://www.net264.org
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FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 5 15 Mar 1999
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ARTICLES
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NAB & Z1B Echo Diff
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at
the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution
systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the
Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology.
The (new) NAB echo list is backbone.na. ELISTed echos will be
added to backbone.na by the NAB at the moderator's request (no
REC requests needed). Echos are removed from backbone.na at the
moderator's request. Echo removal by the NAB for other reasons
(low traffic or expired ELIST entry) is not currently implemented,
but is being discussed.
The Z1B list of echos is called backbone.z1b. Echo addition and
deletion procedures are similar to those used by the NAB in the
past, and are described in the document SLA9903.Z1B. Briefly, the
moderator of a wannabe echo needs to request addition to the Z1B
and two Hubs or RECs need to request that the echo be added. Echos
are removed from backbone.z1b at the moderators request. Echos may
also be removed from backbone.z1b by the Z1B because of low traffic
or no current ELIST entry.
diff backbone.na (07-Mar-99) backbone.z1b (07-Mar-99) [edited]
Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B
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EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites
OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion
PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE
WIN2000 Discussions of potential convergence of Win95
WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software
Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB
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None
The NAB list, backbone.na (07-Mar-99) has 749 echos.
The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (07-Mar-99) has 743 echos.
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By David Moufarrege, 1:2613/404.0
Over the past few years I have come accustomed to reading the snooze
each week as it finds itself into my mailbox. It seems that a gloom
and doom article are appearing in the snooze at least monthly.
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 6 15 Mar 1999
Usually it is a departing node or a former node trying to get in a
parting shot, telling the rest of us how bad it is.
Well, I have some news... It's not that bad!
Fidonet is going through changes, just as every other aspect of
Information Technology.
Why would we be any different? Why would we expect not to have to
change along with the currents of technology? We cannot expect to hold
onto the past without embracing the future. A future that has
unlimited opportunities if we approach it with the same sense of
camaraderie and pioneering that this network was founded on in the
first place - a future that seeks out new frontiers.
The new frontier these days is Fido/IP integration, making Fidonet
systems available on the Internet. It's the only way to let new
generations of computer users experience what we already know. It is
also a way of reaching those that have "migrated".
Meet the Fido/IP project:
The Fido/IP project is based on the premise that Fidonet has to
embrace new technologies and philosophies while continuing to support
its traditional membership. The goal is to create a coherent network
that contains both POTS and IP nodes alike.
The notion to use the Internet as a transport medium is not new.
George Peace was the pioneer in utilizing FTP as a means to
inexpensively and quickly move mail and files over great distances.
Then came VModem and the idea to use Telnet as a "carrier" for
standard protocols to connect via the Internet. Now we have BinkP -
a protocol designed to work directly over the Internet, socket to
socket. As a matter of fact, BinkP is the first protocol that was
designed as a Fido/IP protocol, and it is the first protocol to then
be adapted to a Fido POTS protocol in its Niagara incarnation.
To make a long story short: Today there is a growing number of
Fido/IP systems. Zone 1 and Zone 2 have implemented the I-suite of
flags proposed by Lothar Behet. Zone 3 is reportedly close to doing
the same. More and more mailer programs and bbs systems are natively
IP-capable.
Fidonet's structures and ways of interacting are changing as a result
of it. New nodes are joining Fidonet and former nodes are coming back.
It's a slow process, but it is a growing trend. We will see more of it
as time goes on.
If you want to embrace this new era, check out the following programs:
Argus - A Win/32 native GUI POTS & Fido/IP mailer. Supports BinkP,
IFCICO, Telnet, VModem - www.ritlabs.com/argus/
BinkD - The original BinkP mailer. Compiled for *NIX, WinNT, Win9x,
OS/2, and others
BeeMail - 16 and 32bit POTS & Fido/IP mailer. Win 3.1, Win9x and WinNT
- www.beemail.com
BBBS - BBS system which includes "BackDoor", a telnet capable
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 7 15 Mar 1999
Fidonet mailer for many platforms - www.bbbs.net
EleBBS - A Remote Access compatible BBS which includes a native
Telnet server.
Various platforms. - www.pcmicro.com
NetModem- Win95 Telnet server for DOS based BBS systems.
- www.concentric.net/~Drip
WC!5 - WildCat!5 AKA WinServer. - www.santronics.com
VModem - Part of SIO, a driver for OS/2. - www.gwinn.com
Also, subscribe to the INODELST and I-OTHER file echos for the latest
nodelist extracts of IP capable Fidonet nodes and Fido/IP utilities.
Available from all FileGate systems.
For more information about Fido/IP contact David Moufarrege,
1:2613/404.0, in Zone 1. In Zone 2 contact Lothar Behet, 2:2446/301.0
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InterMail Products Sold
by Dale Barnes, dbarnes@ifido.com
In the Month of February, Further Development, Inc., sold
its products InterMail, InterEcho and InterPCB to Majik.Net,
Inc. of Sugar Land, TX.
Majik.Net, Inc., a Internet Service Provider and developer
of custom Delphi applications purchased InterMail to use for
special needs of some if its customers and to keep the product
advancing for the current install base of InterMail customers.
Majik.Net, Inc. has already started working on the next version of
InterMail to add new features and make sure it is Y2K compliant. In
the works now are a Win9x/NT version with a OS/2 version is a real
possibility.
If you would like to have some input on the direction that InterMail
and InterEcho takes in the future and to stay up to date with
InterMail and InterEcho. Visit the new web site at www.ifido.com
or send email to sales@ifido.com.
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of NAB echo changes during Jan & Feb.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at
the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution
systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 8 15 Mar 1999
Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology.
The (new) NAB adds echos at the moderator's request. The wannabe
echo must have an ELIST entry, but there are no other requirements.
Echos are removed from the NAB at the moderator's request. The NAB
is still discussing how they will handle echos with an expired ELIST
entry.
diff backbone.na 03-Jan-99 backbone.na 07-Mar-99 [edited].
Added to the NAB list of echos
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> ALABAMA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALABAMA
> EMS-FR Emergency Medical Services -First Responder
> FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
> FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference
> FILEGATE IFDC FileGate Project(sm) International Echo
> F_I_D_O_E_R_R_O_R_S fIDO ERRORS
> HCW_ECHO Fantasy Wrestling Echo
> LS_ARRL Bulletins from the ARRL
> MICHIGAN GENERAL CHAT FOR MICHIGAN
> OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion
> PEN_PALS Where Friends Meet!
> ROLLER_JAM ROLLER JAM Discussion Conference
> TEXAS GENERAL CHAT FOR TEXAS
> WIN2000 Discussions of potential convergence of Win95
> WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software
> XENA:WP Gathering place for fans of the hit show Xena
> Z1BACKBONE Z1B discussion
Removed from the NAB list of echos
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None
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o There are 749 echos in backbone.na [07-Mar-98] (up 17)
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After reading Rob Echlers Fidonet obituary (Volume 14, #10), I have
decided to pen my own.
I bought my first 300 baud modem in 1981 and started my first BBS a
few years later, joining Fidonet in 1984. Many thousands of hours of
my life was spent in echomail and netmail, and most of my lifelong
friends were met through Fidonet or BBSing. I have no regrets about
this time spent in my youth, as I learnt much about sociology and
human relationships from this time.
Now I'm a I.T. consultant and Project Manager, and owe much of my
success to my experience in Fidonet.
In fact, I suspect that many people now in their 30s who got into
Fidonet in their teens have had much success in their lives due to the
unique experiences that Fidonet offered. What better way to learn how
to manage people than to become a echomail moderator, or to gain
technical proess by running Multiple BBS and mail sessions
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 9 15 Mar 1999
concurrently under desqview!
A few weeks ago, I found an old 80MB Hard Drive lying around and
plugged it in to discover my BBS, Front Door, Fmail and echo areas
that I thought had been long lost. I had a great laugh reading all the
OS/2 will destroy Windows flames, (where are all the OS/2 bigots
now?), and wondered if there was anything resembling a shell of
Fidonet left. In a sudden burst of nostalgia, I tried to get
everything running again and maybe even join Fidonet again to see out
its last, but alas I was too late. I compiled my ancient nodelist (it
makes you realise how fast computer have become when it took 10
seconds instead of 2-3 minutes!) and tried to File Request an up to
date nodelist, but not one system was left to poll from, and I
couldn't even find a single BBS to connect to. In the end I gave up,
so this message will have to do as my goodbye.
It is a very slow and painful death that Fidonet is going through, and
I believe it would be a great idea to go out on a high note and pull
the plug formally at the end of this year - to mark Fidonet as a 20th
Icon as a precursor to the Internet. However, the reality is that the
threads of cohesion are too weak now for any cohesive decisions to be
reached at any level within Fidonet.
So for a time the ghosts will continue to haunt what once was Fidonet.
These are the outsiders, most of them running linux or OS/2, but never
Windows with outlook for e-mail and newsreader. People who once
dreamed and begged to become a "hub", can now become their own NCs and
even ZCs if they wish!
One request - Please keep any old echomail (esp Sysop areas) archives
that you have stored. I know that one day soon, Fidonet will be
preserved and remembered in much the same way as my TRS-80 model 1,
with a virtual emulator. On the Internet you will be able to connect
to a virtual BBS and browse through the past with records of echomail,
doors and games from a bygone era. I can imagine a Java nodelist
compiler emulator, and emulated copies of everything from Opus to
Frontdoor, allowing you to install a virtual BBS on the Net and even
emulate the connections to other virtual systems to enable Netmail to
flow again, but this time, just for the sake of fun and remembering
the good old days. I look forward to this new project kicking off, and
hope that there are many ex Sysops out there with an archive of their
systems that can contribute to the virtual Fidonet archives.
So on this positive note, I bid goodbye and farwell.
Tim Epstein ex 3:635/526, ex3:634/304,
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Z1 Backbone Echo Changes
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jan & Feb.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at
the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution
systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 10 15 Mar 1999
Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology.
The Z1B "grandfathered" existing NAB echos as of 28-Feb-99, but
sent mail to all moderators advising them that they could remove
their echos from the Z1B. Unlike the (new) NAB, the Z1B requires
two Hub or REC requests before a new Z1B wannabe echo will be added
to the list of Z1B echos (backbone.z1b). Also unlike the (new) NAB,
the Z1B is expected to purge echos that do not meet minimum traffic
requirements or whose ELIST entry expires. For these reasons, the
Z1B list (backbone.z1b) is expected to diverge from the NAB list
(backbone.na) over time, and may be temporarily out-of-sync for a
week or two on new echos that are requesting addition to both
backbones.
What I have done here is a "two month diff" between the last NAB
list that I reported and the current Z1B list. This means that
most of the echos in the "Added to the Z1B list of echos" were
actually added to the NAB before the divorce.
diff backbone.na 03-Jan-99 backbone.z1b 07-Mar-99 [edited].
Added to the Z1B list of echos
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ALABAMA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALABAMA
EMS-FR Emergency Medical Services -First Responder
FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference
FILEGATE IFDC FileGate Project(sm) International Echo
F_I_D_O_E_R_R_O_R_S fIDO ERRORS
HCW_ECHO Fantasy Wrestling Echo
LS_ARRL Bulletins from the ARRL
MICHIGAN GENERAL CHAT FOR MICHIGAN
PEN_PALS Where Friends Meet!
ROLLER_JAM ROLLER JAM Discussion Conference
TEXAS GENERAL CHAT FOR TEXAS
XENA:WP Gathering place for fans of the hit show Xena
Z1BACKBONE Z1B discussion
Removed from the Z1B list of echos
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EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites
PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE
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o There are 743 echos in backbone.z1b [07-Mar-98]
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FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 11 15 Mar 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
12 May 1999
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
9 Jun 1999
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 12 15 Mar 1999
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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
=================================================================
Latest Greatest Software Versions
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158
Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come
back. Guess I just did. <grin>
Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch
up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me.
There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail
addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version
of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in.
Please note the new contact info:
Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
fido@popovich.net
http://www.popovich.net/fido
Peter Popovich
-=- Snip -=-
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
OS Platform :
Software package name :
Version :
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
Author / Support staff contact name :
Author / Support staff contact node :
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
Internet e-mail address :
Web page :
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
-=- Snip -=-
MS-DOS:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 13 15 Mar 1999
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
Silver Xpress
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO
TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
OS/2:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
Windows (16-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
Windows (32-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I
Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
Unix:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
Amiga:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL
CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS
Atari:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA
Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
be listed by the first match.
Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
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X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
FidoNet:
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
============
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13:
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
Not sure where the following should be placed:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html
============
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ZEC2:
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
============
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
============
Zone 4:
Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
============
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
============
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
============
Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
-----------oOo-------------
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $5/$15mo.
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP,VMoT | 64k | $5/mo.
1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr.
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr.
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr.
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
2:335/535 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
[I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
available.]
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Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
Editor: Henk Wolsink
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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FidoNet 5:5/23
BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34
more addresses:
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(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 12325
Port Elizabeth,
6006
South Africa
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
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FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSGnn.ZIP] for a
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [9], i.e., FNWSJAN9.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 99.
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Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
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** http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
** ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
And in non-English formats via:
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and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
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respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
http://www.fidonews.org
and http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm
and in the FIDONEWS echo.
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
=*=*=*=
The current week's FidoNews are now also available almost immediately
after publication on the FidoNews Editor homepage on the World Wide
Web at:
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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