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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 27 7 July 1997
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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ONE YEAR AGO THIS ISSUE! AND DRIVING ON MARS!
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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One Year Ago, this Issue! ................................ 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
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Gulp? .................................................... 2
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3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3
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FTSC Chairman retires in office? ......................... 3
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How Do I get a Node number in Hong Kong? ................. 3
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A remark concerning FSC-0093 ............................. 4
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Found it! ................................................ 5
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FTPoint in Zone 1 Wanted ................................. 6
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Where does FidoNews go in Zone 3? ........................ 7
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4. ARTICLES ................................................. 9
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FidoSpine Distribution System Pledge ..................... 9
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Observational Titbits .................................... 10
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5. TRUE STORIES OF FIDONET .................................. 11
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A True Story of FidoNet .................................. 11
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6. FIDONET HISTORY .......................................... 14
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History of Echomail - Part 1 ............................. 14
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7. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 27
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No more "Getting technical" ? ............................ 27
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8. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 35
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 185 ...... 35
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9. ECHOING .................................................. 36
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ELIST Suspended for July ................................. 36
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And more!
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 1 7 Jul 1997
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EDITORIAL
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This is the Issue number where I took over the Editorial operation of
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FidoNews last year. It's STILL fun. [grin]
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This is quite a full Issue with lots of Echomail-related stuff and
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some odds and ends that came in at the last minute.
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One of the items is a note about the resignation of the FTSC Chairman,
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David Nugent [who is also ZC3]. This was first reported in several
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Sysop Echos and is confirmed here. Nugent is indeed resigning and is
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also leaving FidoNet. Along these lines, I sent direct Netmail to each
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Zone Coordinator asking for information, comment, and publication
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permission for any replies. They will appear here or in subsequent
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Issues as they arrive and are released for publication. Nugent advises
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that he has a few unpublished Proposals to get out and list updates to
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make before his successor takes over the Chairmanship and that will be
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done in the next weeks.
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Another is a plea for assistance from a fellow in Hong Kong who can't
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seem to get a Node number over there. Somebody help him, please.
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Speaking of the Comix section, if any .CMX come in that are political
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in nature, they will be reassigned to the Guest Editorial [.GUE]
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section so as not to confuse anyone. It also puts them up front.
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I forgot to add the two new sections mentioned in 1424 to the ARTSPEC
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doc. That omission has been corrected and the updated ARTSPEC.DOC has
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been hatched into the pipeline for the FIDONEWS file echo and
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ARTSPEC.ZIP into the SDS area SOFTDIST for further distribution. The
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entire ARTSPEC.DOC will be reprinted next week [due to space
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constraints this week] for information. Look for it once a year or
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whenever updated. The two, new sections are the .TRU and .FIC sections
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for FidoNet-related true stories or fiction. Both ARTSPEC.DOC and
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ARTSPEC.ZIP can be file-requested from this system or found on the
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FidoNews webpage and many other FidoNet file sources.
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And now that we've successfully put a robot rover on the surface of
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the planet Mars, maybe someone can tell me why FidoNet still doesn't
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have an International Coordinator? [How about that MARS MISSION?!!]
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C.B.
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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/ /~~~~-, ,__. , /// __,,,,) Zone 1 Backbone__/\
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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--- Following message extracted from NET_DEV @ 1:18/14 ---
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By Christopher Baker on Fri Jul 04 19:54:57 1997
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From: Lisa Gronke
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To: Frank Ellermann
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Date: 02 Jul 97 14:18:32
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Subj: Where O Where is the FTSC_Chair?
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27-Jun-97, Frank Ellermann <2:240/5815.1> muttered to Christopher
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Baker in the NET_DEV echo:
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> BTW, you probably noticed it, 3:3/20 is not more listed, what
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> is the true FTSC now planning, elect another chair man ? Just
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> curious as always... greets, Frank
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Where O Where is the FTSC_Chair?
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I sent Internet email to David Nugent, davidn@csource.oz.au, and asked
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him.
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He said that he resigned as FTSC chair since he is leaving FidoNet at
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the end of July. His BBS is already offline due to lack of callers.
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He said he informed the other FTSC members of this fact about 3 weeks
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ago via the ftsc mailing list, but has gotten no response at all.
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He also says the ftsc web page will be disappearing at the end of July
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unless he finds a current member of the FTSC who is willing to
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maintain it.
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Origin: EastSide Data Services (1:105/61)
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Received: by yonet.org.hk (0.99.970109)
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From: any@yonet.org.hk (Chris Tang)
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Date: 06 Jul 97 12:10:17 +0800
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Subject: fidonet
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Organization: YO!Net
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To: cbaker84@digital.net
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.o[-MAiL-FRoM-AnY-BoX-Of-Chris Tang-tO-cbaker84-]o.
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cd> yes. that is what the above means. send me your story and contact
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cd> info in an email msg and i will publish it in FidoNews tomorrow.
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ok..below are the details. (my English is not good actually :> )
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btw, i hope u can give me a copy of fidonews which published
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 4 7 Jul 1997
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this event via any@writeme.com, thanx..
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Hi, i'm a sysop in Hong Kong, I met a problem of applying a
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fidonet node in Zone6 Host700.
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A few month before, I have tried to contact 6:700/0 via netmail,
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however, his system doesn't receive any netmail at all, I assumed
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that his mailer couldn't work properly.
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Later, luckily, i found his E-Mail address from fidonet nodelist
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and i sent him a E-Mail about apply a fidonet node in Z6H700 with
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my system information, he then replied within a day and told me
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that he would help me to do so. However, a few weeks later, i
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didn't get any reply from him any more. i then got a fidonet
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nodelist to see if my node had already inside or not, but it had
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no change at all in Z6H700 part of fidonet nodelist. So I tried to
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send him the second E-Mail to him about the applying of fidonet
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node, he has replied that he would do so. Again, no more reply was
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received from him.
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Luckily, i read Fidonews and find out some fidonet sysop contact
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methods from it for help.
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I wanna have a fidonet node because of the international purpose
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and the fidonet node is always required if being a bbs product
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oversea distro sites in order to prove that my system works
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properly. this is why i wanna join fidonet family. :)
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Now, i hope i can apply a fidonet node directly from ZC of Zone6
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but i can't find his e-mail address (E-Mail is the unique contact
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method for me for contacting oversea).
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Anyone can help me about this? below are my contact methods.
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Name : Chris Tang
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E-Mail: any@who.net (text email only)
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any@writeme.com (file attach support)
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ICQ : 1251490
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BBS : AnyWhere Board +852-2672-5505 [Hong Kong]
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Greetz,
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Chris Tang, any@who.net
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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
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By Christopher Baker on Wed Jul 02 22:59:44 1997
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From: Frank Ellermann @ 2:240/5815
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 5 7 Jul 1997
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To: Editor @ 1:1/23
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Date: 03 Jul 97 04:18:00
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Subj: fsc-0093.let
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A remark concerning FSC-0093
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by Frank Ellermann, 2:240/5815.1@fidonet.org
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Hello Chris...
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I don't know how this *.LET submission type is meant to work, but at
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least I try to stay within the 70 columns limit. <g> First an idea,
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how you could get more replies like this into FidoNews. Just replace
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the useless (?) publishing of pages in NEWSCHAT by posting of the
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complete articles there. Then whoever wants to answer can simply use
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the quote function of his news reader... et voila, a new article !?
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Two additions to your publishing of FSC-0093. Reduced seen-by lines
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are implemented in IMAIL version 1.85. If some users of this fine
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product weren't aware of it until today: Reduced seen-by lines are by
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far safer than tiny seen-by lines, because the vital informations to
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detect dup-rings automatically are preserved by reduced seen-by lines.
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So if you still use tiny seen-by lines today (and you're not by
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accident a zonegate :-), then please try reduced seen-by lines.
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Second point, it would be quite simple to extend FSC-0093 in a way
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that allows interzonal dup-ring detection. Still fully compatible with
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FSC-0074 (i.e. FTS-0004) of course, and mostly of interest for
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zonegates. Today it's almost impossible to detect multi-zone rings
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automatically, but based on the old SPTH-proposal it's possible to
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extend FSC-0093 in this direction... However, before I try it, there
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should be at least one zonegate (all those internet tunneling nodes,
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hi, that's you :-) really interested in using this method, if it's
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implemented in e.g. IMAIL or FASTECHO.
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"QOFM" to Chris, you probably know, that in practice FidoNews is the
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last working "official" glue keeping FidoNet together, don't you ?
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Tnx and bye, Frank
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Got my CRC problems solved...
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Anybody with a nodelist later than day 150 punch up
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Susana Baratta 4:851/7
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The entry for this node contains high ascii characters at the end,
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some utils probably do not allow for this, so the CRC comes out
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incorrect!
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The bad file was NODEDIFF.157 which has a grunged entry. The CRC
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calculates correctly if the data type is changed from signed 8-bit
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(char) to unsigned char for the calculation...
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Therefore the CRC error message was correct because there was a
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problem, but incorrect because the checksum on the top line is
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accurate if you allow for the high-ASCII characters.
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I've really enjoyed figuring this out for myself. I've spent a lot of
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time testing my routines for CRC calculation, and come to the
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conclusion that any nodelist utility really should check a byte at a
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time for illegal characters. It may really slow things down, but it's
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probably for the best.
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L8r,
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Brainwave
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... Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed.
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|Fidonet: Brian Wood 1:362/903@fidonet.org
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|Internet: 903!Brian.Wood@river.chattanooga.net
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| River Canyon Rd. BBS <=> Chattanooga OnLine! Gateway to the World.
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From: "Mikhail Ramendik" <mikhram@dataforce.net>
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To: "cbaker84@digital.net" <cbaker84@digital.net>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 97 21:28:35 -0300
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Reply-To: "Mikhail Ramendik" <mikhram@dataforce.net>
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Subject: For FidoNews: FTPoint in z1 wanted
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This is for Fidonews. Please put it into the appropriate section.
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I am Mikhail Ramendik of Moscow, Russia, 2:5020/768.45,
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mikhram@dataforce.net
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I have a good command of English and want to receive some echos from
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the z1 backbone. Notably HOLY_BIBLE and company, HISTORY and
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MILHISTORY . Even though some of them do get to z2, they're SLOW!!!
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And HOLY_BIBLE is NOT here AFAIK...
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What I am searching for is a Point in Zone 1 with Mail transfer via
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FTP (or if impossible - via VMODEM). I am a Point since 1993, have
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software tuned OK, will never generate dupes and annoy the bossnode.
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(Yes I have seen the commercial hub list. I wish I could use such a
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hub, but transferring the bucks from Russia is impossible)
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If anyone can help me join Z1 please email! Thanks in advance!
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Mikhail Ramendik -mikhram@dataforce.net
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FidoNet: 2:5020/768.45
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Praise be to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
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By Christopher Baker on Fri Jul 04 19:03:38 1997
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From: John Gardeniers @ 3:632/360
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To: Editor @ 1:18/14
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Date: 28 Jun 97 20:56:50
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Subj: Fidowhere.art
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Hi Editor,
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As I figure it's better in this format than none at all, and I do find
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artspec a little off-putting, I've decided to post this to you as a
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message. Do with it what you will. :-)
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regards,
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John
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Fidowhere (Where can I get Fidonews?) by John "Fuse" Gardeniers
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In FIDO1425 there was yet another comment about the unavailability of
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Fidonews, so I thought I'd share my own experiences in that regard.
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When I became a Fido point last late last year one of the things I
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looked forward to was getting a regular copy of Fidonews. This had
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always been intermittent, to say the least, on various local BBSes.
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Indeed, many BBSs around here don't even carry a single issue. :-(
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Having obtained lists of the available message and file areas I
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immediately proceeded to link to the Nodelist and Fidonews areas.
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"Great" I thought, I'll most likely get the first one within a few
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days. It was not to be. :-( After a couple of weeks I contacted my
|
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boss to try to find out why the news wasn't arriving.
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Not being a reader of it herself, my boss was a little surprised that
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Fidonews wasn't arriving at her system either. The system in question
|
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is a major mail hub, not just an end leaf. A few messages here an
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there soon revealed that Fidonews wasn't available locally, at least
|
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not via Fidonet. We did learn that it was readily available via
|
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Internet! The idea of having to use the Internet to obtain Fidonet's
|
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newsletter struck me as just a little absurd.
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Due to some persistence on the part of my boss we finally had Fidonews
|
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being delivered to these parts via Fidonet itself, as it always should
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have been. Am I the only one who finds at strange that so many sysops
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 8 7 Jul 1997
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didn't bother chasing it up? We are in the largest network in the
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state, so many systems must have been affected by the unavailability
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of the newsletter. I wonder how many sysops currently believe that
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Fidonews has ceased to exist.
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On a slightly more critical note, the fact that so little effort
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appears to be put in by so many people to get a copy at all says quite
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a lot about it's value. :-/
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=================================================================
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ARTICLES
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=================================================================
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FidoSpine Distribution System Pledge
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1. The FidoSpine Distribution System recognizes all echoes as listed
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in the Echolist for June 1, 1997 (ELIST706.*) along with their
|
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first-listed moderator as the Moderator-of-Record.
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2. The FidoSpine Distribution System will initially carry all Fidonet
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Zone one echoes that appear in the June 1997 echo listing, plus
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some that are not. The FidoSpine Distribution System will use it's
|
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own echo distribution list, FIDONET.NOW. The FidoSpine Distribution
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System does not require echo listing renewals or minimum traffic
|
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levels for any echo(s).
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3. The FidoSpine Distribution System recognizes the Moderator-of-
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Record as the "owner" of their echo. As such all moderator requests
|
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for feed cuts are honored, provided that the moderator follows the
|
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path from the 'problem' system and works backwards. Any FidoSpine
|
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Distribution System hub retains the right to not distribute any
|
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echo who's moderator's actions causes too much of a burden on their
|
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system or well being.
|
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4. The FidoSpine Distribution System recognizes the validity of
|
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|
Fidonet Policy 4.07 in determining the legality and appropriateness
|
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|
of messages carried in echomail. Since the Moderator-of-Record is
|
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the "owner" of the echo, The FidoSpine Distribution System
|
|||
|
recognizes the moderator's responsibility in maintaining the
|
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|
legality and appropriateness of message traffic in their echo(es).
|
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|
The FidoSpine Distribution System is not responsible for the
|
|||
|
content of echomail traffic.
|
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|
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|
5. The FidoSpine Distribution System will work toward establishing
|
|||
|
SuperHubs in each zone and region. The FidoSpine Distribution
|
|||
|
System does not mandate any specific routing scheme, and allows
|
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|
each zone, region, and net to adopt and use their own methods. The
|
|||
|
FidoSpine Distribution System, where netmail and other traffic is
|
|||
|
concerned, will use routing charts provided by recognized Fidonet
|
|||
|
Coordinators (as indicated in the Fidonet Nodelist).
|
|||
|
|
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|
6. The FidoSpine Distribution System distribution system will not
|
|||
|
interfere with any traffic in any echo, aside from eliminating
|
|||
|
duplicate messages ("dupes") and adding necessary routing
|
|||
|
information in accord with Fidonet Technical Standards.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
7. The FidoSpine Distribution System will accept input from any
|
|||
|
moderator as to a request to carry his/her echo. We will NOT
|
|||
|
require multiple requests from various NEC's and REC's to
|
|||
|
'authorize' distribution of any echo. All that is required is that
|
|||
|
the moderator have properly established an entry in the current
|
|||
|
Echolist, and make a request of the FidoSpine Distribution System
|
|||
|
to distribute his/her echo.
|
|||
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|
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|
8. The FidoSpine Distribution System may, from time to time,
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 10 7 Jul 1997
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establish, and distribute, technical criteria that messages must
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meet in order to be carried on FidoSpine. Such criteria may
|
|||
|
include, but not be limited to, definitions of character set,
|
|||
|
Origin Line length, age of messages, technical specifications of
|
|||
|
the SEEN-BY's, the PATH, the tearlines, and assorted control lines.
|
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|
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|
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Bob Seaborn, 1:140/1
|
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Ed Georgen, 1:2222/258
|
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Jerry Gause, 1:3651/9
|
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|
Jim Balcom, 1:13/25
|
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Peter Rocca, 1:2401/0
|
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|
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|
Observational Titbits
|
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|
by Lee Kindness, 2:259/7
|
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|
|
|||
|
Well, just a couple of observations...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3:3/20, the FTSC Chair alias address is no-longer in the nodelist,
|
|||
|
what gives? A number of people have been trying to form a new FTSC
|
|||
|
(without an IC) but these guys should perhaps show a bit more common-
|
|||
|
sense (use NET_DEV rather than FTSC_PUBLIC due to NET_DEV having
|
|||
|
better distribution) and a bit more 'get-up-and-go' (like contact me
|
|||
|
about all those FTSC additions/revisions I published in Fidonews a
|
|||
|
couple of weeks back). I wonder if we'll ever see an FTSC entry in the
|
|||
|
nodelist ever again... Hell, a united world-wide Fidonet is looking
|
|||
|
very shakey...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ftp.fidonet.org is now an alias for ftp.paonline.com rather than the
|
|||
|
IEEE server it used to be on. Interesting to note that only FSC
|
|||
|
documents up to fsc-0090 are on the site (up to fsc-0093 exist on
|
|||
|
ftp.blaze.net.au - the 'former' FTSC internet site) while the two
|
|||
|
'fta' documents by the would be new FTSC are present...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
>From 2:259/7, In dis-united Scotland...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--
|
|||
|
Lee Kindness shazze@on.bright.yelly.bowls.com
|
|||
|
Fidonet 2:259/7 wangi@earthling.net hufunglun
|
|||
|
http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk
|
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|
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|
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|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 11 7 Jul 1997
|
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|
|
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=================================================================
|
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|
TRUE STORIES OF FIDONET
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[This is the inaugural True Story of FidoNet. It's old but it's
|
|||
|
true. Send yours today!] Ed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[In 1989 I was injured on-the-job and had little and then no access
|
|||
|
to my FidoNet computer which was at work. The members of my Net at
|
|||
|
the time, built me a computer to use at home to operate the one at
|
|||
|
work remotely.]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--Original post:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This file is my way of expressing my gratitude to the members
|
|||
|
of my Net (FidoNet Net 1:135, SFLorida NET, Miami_FL_USA) for
|
|||
|
a holiday gift they presented me in mid-December.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Composed on 5 Jan 89.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A Holiday Ode to Net 135
|
|||
|
by Christopher Baker
|
|||
|
RC 18 / NC 135
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Twas two weeks before Christmas and all thru my house,
|
|||
|
my body was aching, I started to grouse.
|
|||
|
"If I don't dump this backache and get back to work
|
|||
|
my Users and Sysops will think I'm a jerk."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'd been laid up at home for many a week
|
|||
|
and I had no computer through which I could speak.
|
|||
|
It's tough to do business without a remote and I'm sure
|
|||
|
many NCs thought things I can't quote.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
All the while in the background quite unknown to me,
|
|||
|
the folks of my own Net were planning a spree.
|
|||
|
They talked and they chatted and gathered up parts
|
|||
|
to build me a system for home, bless their hearts.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
They Netmailed and Echoed and telephoned, too,
|
|||
|
deciding just which part was what and from who.
|
|||
|
They assembled a system that was based on a Tandy;
|
|||
|
with modem and hard drive, I mean, it's a dandy!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I was tired and cranky the night it was due
|
|||
|
and had NO idea this dream would come true.
|
|||
|
I had pains in my back and a pain in my head
|
|||
|
but my wife kept insisting I not go to bed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It didn't seem normal the way she cajoled.
|
|||
|
It wasn't till later she said, "I was told."
|
|||
|
So unknown to me I was being prepared
|
|||
|
for a real demonstration of how my Net cared.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It was close to eleven P.M. when I said,
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 12 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"I can't stay up longer. I'm going to bed."
|
|||
|
Then suddenly and very much to my shock
|
|||
|
came a tap on the door and then a loud knock.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Ho, Ho, Ho!", said a voice not too clear through the door.
|
|||
|
"Open up! I have presents for you by the score!"
|
|||
|
The door was thrown wide to allow the sprite in
|
|||
|
but he wasn't in red; not a hair on his chin.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
He was thin as a rail and no Santa was he.
|
|||
|
I recognized Peter; our own NEC.
|
|||
|
"What the heck's going on?" I exclaimed to the air.
|
|||
|
He said, "Just a token to show that we care."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
He said nothing else but went straight to his work
|
|||
|
and set up the system then he turned with a smirk.
|
|||
|
"No more excuses!", he said, "Now, get cracking!"
|
|||
|
"Your traffic's piled up and the stuff keeps on stacking!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I stood there dumbfounded, amazed and confused.
|
|||
|
My mind boggled speechless and he seemed amused.
|
|||
|
"What? How? Who and why?", I managed to say.
|
|||
|
"It's nothing", said he, "now, get back in the fray!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It wouldn't sink in that such things still take place
|
|||
|
that confirm all your faith in the rest of the race.
|
|||
|
The best I could do was to stammer my thanks
|
|||
|
and then write this poem to honor our ranks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I still can't believe it and simply must say,
|
|||
|
"All the folks in my Net, you made my whole day!"
|
|||
|
"I never can thank you enough for this gift."
|
|||
|
"Your generous act brings a permanent lift!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So, all of the rest out in FidoNet land,
|
|||
|
keep your faith that our concept continues to stand.
|
|||
|
The FidoNet concept of help and of sharing
|
|||
|
is here. Look around and you'll see people caring.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's never too late to put egos aside.
|
|||
|
Let go some bygones and take them in stride.
|
|||
|
This Network is people and people are kind.
|
|||
|
When your urge is to flame them, please keep that in mind.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To all of my Net, I say "Thank you, nth times!"
|
|||
|
To the rest of the world who are sick of my rhymes
|
|||
|
I say "I hope the New Year will bring you much joy!"
|
|||
|
Now, I think I'll stop here and go play with my toy! [grin]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The End
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to the wacky world of FidoNet!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Christopher Baker
|
|||
|
MetroFire, 1:135/14(0), 305-596-8611
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 13 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Miami_FL_USA
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SFLorida Net 135, Miami_FL_USA
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Roster of Net 135 Santas:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 RAM-SOFT_Archive_Library, Miami_FL, David_Gilbert & James Gilbert
|
|||
|
2 Eclectic_BBS, South_Miami_FL, Tark_Henderson
|
|||
|
3 Medical_Software_Exchange, Miami_FL, Richard_Kaplan
|
|||
|
4 The_Kendall_BBS, Miami_FL, Mike_Janke
|
|||
|
5 CAP-BBS, Miami_FL, Duane_Ellis
|
|||
|
6 Dungeons_of_Darkness_OPUS, Miami_FL, Mike_Jones
|
|||
|
7 Miami's_First_Fido, Miami_FL, Al_DelaTorre
|
|||
|
8 Coral_Gables_Medterm_BBS, Coral_Gables_FL, Mario_Diaz
|
|||
|
9 EPICS_Opus, Hialeah_FL, Sandy_Schurtz
|
|||
|
10 AMS_Support-Net_135_NEC, Miami_FL, Peter_Adenauer
|
|||
|
11 Power_Station, North_Miami_FL, Mike_Lombana
|
|||
|
12 Off-Duty_Inc._BBS, Miami_FL, Kathryn_Fanning
|
|||
|
20 FrontDoor_Headquarters, Miami_FL, Joaquim_Homrighausen
|
|||
|
24 TURBO-Soft, Homestead_FL, David_Kerley
|
|||
|
27 Bitsy's_Place, Miami_Beach_FL, Henry_VanLeer
|
|||
|
30 SMURFIT_Latin_America_Opus, North_Miami_Beach_FL, Jeff_Wolach
|
|||
|
33 Byte_Size_Bits, Homestead_FL, Jean_Prophet & Buddy Prophet
|
|||
|
34 The_Jailhouse, North_Miami_FL, Kenny_Star
|
|||
|
35 The_Sober_Way_Out, Miami_FL, Robert_Egan
|
|||
|
36 Town_Crier_Opus, Miami_Shores_FL, Orville_Bullitt
|
|||
|
38 C-Board, Miami_FL, Jack_Bowman
|
|||
|
39 The Expressions_BBS, Miami_Springs_FL, Daniel_Johnston
|
|||
|
40 The_Cable_Connection, Miami_FL, Jerry_Iovine
|
|||
|
41 BBS1-PC!, Miami_FL, John_Theed
|
|||
|
43 Key's_Paradise, Key_West_FL, Steve_Froeschke
|
|||
|
46 Bullitt_-_80_Opus, North_Miami_FL, Guy_Bullitt
|
|||
|
47 MOBS_Opus_Humor_South, North_Miami_FL, Andrew_Adler
|
|||
|
48 The_Road_Runner, Hialeah_FL, Luis_Hernandez
|
|||
|
88 Chatterbox_BBS, Miami_FL, Marc_Moyantcheff
|
|||
|
204 BerkShire_Board, Miami_FL, Bill_Kraski
|
|||
|
901 Miami's_Personal_Consultant, Miami_FL, Dave_Steinman
|
|||
|
942 wHy_bE_NoRmaL?, Miami_Fl, Tim_LaVan,
|
|||
|
990 Friends_of_Dorothy, Miami_FL, Scott_Samet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thank you all for the fabulous Tandy T1000 w/20 meg hard drive, 1200
|
|||
|
bps modem, 384K RAM, floppy drive and completely configured with DOS
|
|||
|
and programs! It is a gift I will always cherish and never forget. You
|
|||
|
ARE an amazing and generous bunch of people and Sysops!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TTFN.
|
|||
|
Chris
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[That was a long time ago but I haven't forgotten that most of the
|
|||
|
folks in our net are not rotten.] [grin] Ed.
|
|||
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|
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|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 14 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
FIDONET HISTORY
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[This an abortive chapter of FidoNet History from 1989. This is the
|
|||
|
original EchoPol that was 'ratified' and then revoked by the IC of
|
|||
|
the period {David Dodell} as non-representative. With the recent REC
|
|||
|
Echomail effort, it might be well to reflect upon that which has not
|
|||
|
been enacted for going on ten years after Policy4. It has been
|
|||
|
reformatted to 70 columns for FidoNews and the spelling and
|
|||
|
punctuation corrected where necessary. The original is available at
|
|||
|
1:18/14 for file-request as ECHOPOL.] Ed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
GENERAL ECHOMAIL POLICY 1
|
|||
|
April 22nd, 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PROLOGUE
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This document sets forth policy governing Echomail conferences and
|
|||
|
their distribution.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If any item in this policy is in conflict with any existing or
|
|||
|
subsequent General FidoNet Policy, then General FidoNet Policy will
|
|||
|
be in effect.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This Policy applies to Zone One Backbone Echomail conferences and to
|
|||
|
any other conferences for which the Moderator desires it to be
|
|||
|
applicable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Future changes to Echo Policy may be proposed by any FidoNet Sysop
|
|||
|
by submitting the proposal to their REC. The REC will then determine
|
|||
|
if the proposal should be brought before the rest of the RECs. If an
|
|||
|
REC decides not to bring a proposed change before the rest of the
|
|||
|
RECs, a message stating why must be sent. If 10% or more of the NCs
|
|||
|
and NECs in a region request that a proposal be brought before the
|
|||
|
RECs then that proposal must be brought before the RECs.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A majority vote of the Regional Echomail Coordinators is required in
|
|||
|
order for a proposal to be formally voted on. If 10% or more of the
|
|||
|
NCs and NECs in the Zone request that a proposal be formally voted
|
|||
|
on, then that proposal must be formally voted on.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Those eligible to vote on any proposals made by the REC structure
|
|||
|
will be the ZEC, RECs, NECs, NCs, RCs and ZC. Only one vote per
|
|||
|
person is allowed. Adoption of changes will require a simple
|
|||
|
majority of those voting to pass.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In this document, "a simple majority" means more than 50 percent
|
|||
|
of those voting. A good faith attempt must be made to make all
|
|||
|
potential voters aware that a vote is occurring and make available
|
|||
|
all necessary information.
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I. HISTORY
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Echomail consists of the sharing of message bases or conferences
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between various independent network addresses. The Echomail concept
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started with a series of programs by Jeff Rush. Since the original
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implementation, many authors have written programs improving on the
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original idea. In spite of worries that the flow of Echomail would
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increase Netmail traffic to the point that the Network would
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collapse under its own weight, Echomail has been a success. To
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simplify the distribution of Echomail, a national Echomail Backbone
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formed whose primary purpose is the distribution of Echomail at a
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national level. Of recent introduction to the Backbone system has
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been the generous contribution of the Echomail Stars. As a result
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of the growth of Fidonet and the increase in the volume of Echomail,
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it has become necessary to set forth a formal policy governing
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Echomail.
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II. DEFINITIONS
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1. ECHOMAIL: The process of sharing message bases between
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independent systems with unique net/node addresses.
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2. ECHOMAIL CONFERENCES: An Echomail conference is a message
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base of forum design distributed under a specified
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conference name dealing with a defined area of interest.
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Notable examples include TECH, the National Technical
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Conference and COMM, the National Telecommunications
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Conference.
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3. MODERATED CONFERENCE: A moderated conference is an Echomail
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conference for which a moderator has been appointed to
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supervise the flow and content of the conference. All
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conferences carried on the Backbone must be moderated.
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4. SYSOP-ONLY CONFERENCE: A Sysop-Only Conference is one in
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which the Moderator has decided that the conference will be
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made available only to Sysops and not to users.
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5. RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION CONFERENCES: A restricted
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distribution conference is one which is restricted only to
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eligible recipients. Notable examples include REGCON, the
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Regional Coordinators Conference, COORD, the National
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Echomail Coordinators Conference, and MAGICK, a pre-register
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Echomail Conference.
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6. ZONE ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR (ZEC): This individual is
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responsible for coordination of Echomail on a FidoNet Zone
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level.
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7. REGIONAL ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR (REC): This individual is
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responsible for coordination of Echomail within his region.
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8. NET ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR (NEC): This individual is
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responsible for coordination of Echomail at the Local Net
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level.
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9. ECHOMAIL Backbone: The Echomail Backbone consists of
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voluntary members who provide services to enhance the
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national distribution of Echomail. The Backbone consists of
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nodes which handle a high volume of Echomail traffic and are
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responsible for distribution of Echomail down to the
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regional level.
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10. NATIONAL ECHOMAIL LIST: The National Echomail List
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identifies the available national conferences, the
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conference moderator and requirements of the specified
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conference. The ZEC will appoint the keeper of the National
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Echomail List.
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11. AUTOMATED CENSORSHIP: The term Automated Censorship refers
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to programs which cause messages to be removed from the
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intended conference or have their content altered.
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12. FIDONET POLICY: The document which governs Fidonet as
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adopted by Fidonet. The document as of this writing is
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Policy3 and is subject to change. This policy is intended
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to become a part of general Fidonet policy. Until it is
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incorporated into General Fidonet policy, this document
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shall serve to define policy violations occurring in
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Echomail.
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13. OPEN ACCESS CONFERENCE: This is a non-restricted conference
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open to all users who are willing to follow the posted
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conference rules.
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14. TERMINAL NODE: A system which does not process echomail for
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pickup by another system.
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III. DUTIES OF ECHOMAIL COORDINATORS
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1. GENERAL: It is the duty of the *ECs to make available to
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any Fidonet Sysop, any conference which the Sysop is not
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prohibited from receiving by not meeting requirements as
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mandated by the conference moderator. If for any reason the
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*EC does not have access via recognized distribution
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channels to a specific conference, they can not be expected
|
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to pass it on. If a *EC fails to make available any
|
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conference to qualified lower distribution levels, this
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shall be deemed to have violated the outlined duties of the
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position held. Such violation is cause for the removal as
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provided by this document. Nothing in this provision
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requires that a *EC must import any conference to the extent
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of adverse economic impact. It is recommended that cost
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sharing arrangements be employed. Where financially
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feasible for the supplier any conference on the Backbone
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must be made available (other than restricted conferences)
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when requested.
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An exception is when a *EC cuts a link to end unauthorized
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distribution of a conference. In this case, some otherwise
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authorized nodes may temporarily lose their link.
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A *EC shall do everything in their power to insure that:
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1. All downstream links are educated as to this
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policy.
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2. Downstream links know how to properly link into
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conferences.
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3. Acceptable and unacceptable behavior in echomail
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conferences is explained.
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4. Downstream links are not engaging in topologies
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that increase the risk of duplicate messages.
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2. DUTIES OF ZONE ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: It is the duty of the
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ZEC to coordinate the connections between the Echomail
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|
Backbone on both an inter-Zone and intra-Zone level as well
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as coordination of inter-regional connections. The ZEC will
|
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coordinate transmission of Echomail and to provide for
|
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|
routing in a manner that will avoid the transmission of
|
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|
duplicate messages within the same conference. It is also
|
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|
the duty of the ZEC to monitor compliance with this policy
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|
on both a national and international basis.
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3. DUTIES OF REGIONAL ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: It is the duty of
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the REC to provide for regional Echomail distribution. In
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addition, the REC will coordinate any inter-regional cross-
|
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linking of conference feeds with the REC of the
|
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|
participating region with the direct knowledge of the ZEC.
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The REC will provide for transmission and routing of
|
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|
Echomail within his/her region in a manner to avoid creation
|
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|
of duplicate messages within the same conference. It is the
|
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|
duty of the REC to monitor compliance with this policy at a
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regional level.
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4. DUTIES OF NET ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: It is the duty of the
|
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NEC to coordinate the intra-net Echomail and to cooperate
|
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|
with the REC and NECs of other nets to arrange for the
|
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|
inter-net transmittal of echomail. The REC may require the
|
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NEC to provide links for independent (regional) nodes. The
|
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|
NEC shall maintain a list of available Echomail Conferences
|
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|
within the net as well as the requirements of each
|
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|
Conference area as supplied by the conference moderator
|
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|
(Echolist). The NEC shall also monitor compliance with this
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|
policy at a net level.
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|
5. DUTIES OF ECHOLIST COORDINATOR: It is the duty of the
|
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|
Echolist Coordinator to compile and make available a listing
|
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|
of national and international Echomail conferences and,
|
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|
optionally, conferences at various local levels. The
|
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|
content and format of the Echomail listing shall be at the
|
|||
|
sole discretion of the Echolist Coordinator, but shall
|
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|
include the conference name and moderator for each
|
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|
conference. The Echolist Coordinator shall also maintain a
|
|||
|
list of requirements applicable to each listed conference.
|
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6. DUTIES OF ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE MODERATOR: It shall be the
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|
duty of the Echomail Conference Moderator to make in good
|
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|
faith every reasonable effort to insure that the moderated
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 18 7 Jul 1997
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conference does not distribute or promote illegal activities
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or information as defined below in Section V Paragraph 2.
|
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|
The Moderator shall be responsible for insuring that
|
|||
|
messages contained in the conference corresponds to the
|
|||
|
conference theme. The Moderator shall report any violations
|
|||
|
of this policy to the proper Echomail coordinators and lodge
|
|||
|
any appropriate policy complaints as provided for in policy
|
|||
|
documents adopted by Fidonet. The Moderator shall post the
|
|||
|
conference rules in the conference at least once a month.
|
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|
The Moderator is to authorize the disconnection of the
|
|||
|
conference feed. Any Sysop the moderator believes is
|
|||
|
violating policy shall be reported to the offending node's
|
|||
|
nearest local echomail coordinator (may be a NEC, REC or in
|
|||
|
extreme situations, a ZEC); and the moderator shall formally
|
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|
authorize the feed to the offending node to be severed. The
|
|||
|
conference moderator is the sole judge - subject to review
|
|||
|
only by the ZEC (or his delegates) if a complaint is filed
|
|||
|
by the banished party. The Moderator may request in direct
|
|||
|
written form (netmail) that the *ECs disconnect a node from
|
|||
|
the conference when that node refuses to follow the
|
|||
|
published conference rules after at least 3 warnings.
|
|||
|
Knowingly feeding a conference to a node that has been
|
|||
|
severed by the Moderator is considered a violation of this
|
|||
|
echomail policy and is subject to suspension. The length of
|
|||
|
this suspension will be determined by a joint decision of
|
|||
|
the conference moderator and the nearest local echo
|
|||
|
coordinator of the node illegally feeding the conference to
|
|||
|
the original offending node or point.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Echo conference complaints from a Sysop should be filed at
|
|||
|
the net level (NEC) or if the complaining party is an
|
|||
|
independent node then with their REC. The NEC or REC
|
|||
|
receiving such a complaint must take action in accordance
|
|||
|
with the provisions of this echomail policy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For severe or chronic infractions, the NEC, REC, or ZEC may
|
|||
|
file a complaint under general Fidonet policy for
|
|||
|
excessively annoying behavior.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
IV. APPOINTMENT AND ELECTION OF ECHOMAIL COORDINATORS AND
|
|||
|
MODERATORS.
|
|||
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|
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|
1. GRANDFATHER CLAUSE: Those Zone, Regional, and Net Echomail
|
|||
|
Coordinators and Echomail Coordinators currently holding
|
|||
|
these positions as of the date of acceptance of this
|
|||
|
Echomail Policy shall continue to service in said capacity
|
|||
|
until resignation or replacement under this policy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. ELECTION OF ZONE ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: The ZEC shall be
|
|||
|
elected as follows:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) upon resignation or replacement of the existing ZEC,
|
|||
|
the FidoNet Zone Coordinator (ZC) shall nominate at
|
|||
|
least five individuals to be voted upon.
|
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|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 19 7 Jul 1997
|
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|||
|
|
|||
|
b) 10 days after the nominees are selected, an election
|
|||
|
shall be held. The ZEC will be elected by a simple
|
|||
|
majority of IC, ZC, RCs, NCs, RECs, and NECs in their
|
|||
|
Fidonet zone. An individual holding more than one
|
|||
|
position can only cast one vote. That is, if an
|
|||
|
individual is both a NC and a NEC, they may cast only
|
|||
|
one vote.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. ELECTION OF REGIONAL ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: The REC shall be
|
|||
|
elected as follows:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) upon resignation or replacement of an existing REC,
|
|||
|
the ZEC shall nominate at least 3 individuals for
|
|||
|
election.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
b) 10 days after the nominees are selected, an election
|
|||
|
shall be held. The REC will be elected by a simple
|
|||
|
majority of the RC, NCs, and NECs in their FidoNet
|
|||
|
Region. An individual holding more than one position
|
|||
|
may only cast one vote.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4. NET ECHOMAIL COORDINATOR: The NEC shall be appointed by the
|
|||
|
FidoNet Net Coordinator (NC) or in such alternative manner
|
|||
|
as determined by the NC. If a NEC is not appointed within
|
|||
|
30 days, the REC will appoint the NEC.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
5. REMOVAL OF A *EC: A *EC may be removed from their position
|
|||
|
by a simple majority of those allowed to vote for their
|
|||
|
successor. For a NEC, the members of the Net may vote by
|
|||
|
simple majority to remove the NEC. The position directly
|
|||
|
above (in the *EC structure) will oversee the recall
|
|||
|
election in the same manner as prescribed for electing
|
|||
|
successors.
|
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|
|||
|
A *EC may only be subject to recall for failure to properly
|
|||
|
carry out their duties described above, or if they are no
|
|||
|
longer a member of Fidonet. A promise of 'free' echomail
|
|||
|
delivery from another source is *not* considered an
|
|||
|
acceptable reason for recall.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A *EC maybe removed by the level above for continued
|
|||
|
violations of policy or for gross misconduct.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
6. RECOGNITION OF CONFERENCES: The *EC corresponding to the
|
|||
|
appropriate level recognizes a conference at his level.
|
|||
|
Examples: The NEC recognizes a conference as local. The REC
|
|||
|
recognizes a conference to be regional. A ZEC recognizes a
|
|||
|
conference to be zonal.
|
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|
|
|||
|
7. REMOVAL OF AN ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE MODERATOR: An Echomail
|
|||
|
Conference Moderator may be removed from their position by a
|
|||
|
three fourths (3/4) vote of the *EC structure voting. This
|
|||
|
vote must be carried out in a fair and decent manner while
|
|||
|
giving at least ten (10) days notice to the entire *EC
|
|||
|
structure of the upcoming vote. The ZEC shall notify the
|
|||
|
RECs who in turn shall notify the NECs in their region of
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 20 7 Jul 1997
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|
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|
any upcoming vote. Notice must be given via NetMail.
|
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|
Additional postings in such conferences as COORD and
|
|||
|
regional conferences are encouraged.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
An Echomail Conference Moderator may only be subject to
|
|||
|
recall for failure to properly carry out their duties
|
|||
|
described above or continued pre-meditated violation of this
|
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|
documents section V. Statement of Policies as seen below.
|
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|
Failing to perform the above duties of a conference
|
|||
|
moderator for a period of 3 or more months and/or failing to
|
|||
|
designate a proxy in his absence shall be in violation of
|
|||
|
this policy and be subject to recall. A vote may only be
|
|||
|
callable by the ZEC (or his delegate). This delegate should
|
|||
|
not be from the region or net of the affected conference
|
|||
|
moderator.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Membership in Fidonet need not be a paramount issue, but is
|
|||
|
highly recommended.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
V. STATEMENT OF POLICIES
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. BASIC ECHOMAIL POLICY: The basic policy of Echomail is to
|
|||
|
promote communication in Echomail Conferences in a lawful,
|
|||
|
friendly manner consistent with the general principles of
|
|||
|
FidoNet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. PROHIBITION ON ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES: Any Node which knowingly
|
|||
|
distributes or allows to be entered into echomail
|
|||
|
conferences any messages containing or promoting illegal
|
|||
|
activities or information shall be deemed to have violated
|
|||
|
general FidoNet policy as being excessively annoying. As
|
|||
|
used in this paragraph, "illegal activities" includes
|
|||
|
activities which are a violation of civil law as well as
|
|||
|
activities which would result in criminal prosecution.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. AUTOMATED CENSORSHIP: The use of Automated Censorship in
|
|||
|
the passing or distribution of echomail will be considered a
|
|||
|
violation of this policy and will not be tolerated.
|
|||
|
Disciplinary action will be as referred to in General
|
|||
|
Fidonet policy as being excessively annoying.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
An exception to this provision shall be the deletion and not
|
|||
|
censorship of messages by any Sysop which may lead to legal
|
|||
|
action against that Sysop.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
No echomail shall be modified in any manner which could
|
|||
|
potentially cause duplicates.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4. INTER-NETWORK CONFERENCES: Inter-Net conferences shall
|
|||
|
conform to general Fidonet policy as well as the provisions
|
|||
|
of this policy document in addition to any foreign network's
|
|||
|
provisions. Conferences which originate outside of FidoNet
|
|||
|
must be designated as such in the list of conferences kept
|
|||
|
by the Echolist Coordinator.
|
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|
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
5. CHARGING FOR DISTRIBUTION: Any entity which makes a profit
|
|||
|
from the distribution (passing from system to system) of
|
|||
|
echomail shall be deemed to be excessively annoying and in
|
|||
|
violation of Fidonet policy subject to enforcement under
|
|||
|
existing Fidonet policy. Profit as defined in this
|
|||
|
paragraph is the charging for echomail distribution that
|
|||
|
exceeds actual cost to obtain and distribute the Echomail
|
|||
|
over a sustained period. The cost of the equipment used to
|
|||
|
obtain and distribute echomail may only be recovered on a
|
|||
|
strictly voluntary basis. A Sysop that charges users for
|
|||
|
access to their BBS shall NOT be in violation of this
|
|||
|
paragraph.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Implementation of cost recovery plans may vary greatly. In
|
|||
|
general cost recovery plans should not be overly
|
|||
|
restrictive.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
6. RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION CONFERENCES: Participating Nodes
|
|||
|
shall honor and support the restrictions placed upon
|
|||
|
restricted distribution conferences. Violation of this
|
|||
|
restriction by individual nodes and points shall be a
|
|||
|
violation of this echomail policy and result in suspension
|
|||
|
of the violated echo in accordance with the above paragraph
|
|||
|
in Section III Duties of the Echomail Conference Moderators.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A SYSOP only conference shall be made available only to the
|
|||
|
Sysops or Co-Sysops of Fidonet or other nets with which
|
|||
|
inter-net conferences exist.
|
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|
|
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|
A violation of the restrictions placed on a RESTRICTED
|
|||
|
DISTRIBUTION CONFERENCE will be a violation of this policy
|
|||
|
if and only if the moderator has posted and specified the
|
|||
|
restrictions governing the conference.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
7. PATHLINE OPTION: The PATHline (as defined in FTS-0004),
|
|||
|
originally implemented by SEA in the MGM package, is
|
|||
|
recommended for all nodes. If your current Echomail
|
|||
|
scanner supports the pathline you should enable it. While
|
|||
|
the pathline does not eliminate duplicate messages, it can
|
|||
|
be a very useful tool in determining where a topology
|
|||
|
problem exists.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Systems operating as Echomail Stars, Backbone nodes, or
|
|||
|
Echomail Hubs must implement the PATHline option (as defined
|
|||
|
in FTS-0004 within 30 days of adoption of this policy.
|
|||
|
Since these system are operating beyond the scope of the
|
|||
|
typical FidoNet system, they are required to implement
|
|||
|
features that are otherwise optional.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
8. SEEN-BY LINE: Under the current technology and topology
|
|||
|
(the routing structure of echomail), SEEN-BY lines play an
|
|||
|
important part in reducing duplicate messages. Tiny SEEN-
|
|||
|
BYs will not be allowed until the respective ZECs feel
|
|||
|
topology will allow their use. Nor will the stripping of
|
|||
|
SEEN-BYs (except Zone-Gates and Inter-Network EchoGates) be
|
|||
|
allowed unless approved by the ZEC.
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 22 7 Jul 1997
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Violation of the above shall be excessively annoying
|
|||
|
behavior enforceable under general Fidonet policy. Zone-
|
|||
|
Gates and Inter-Network EchoGates SHOULD strip the SEEN-BYs
|
|||
|
of the exporting Zone or Network to reduce addressing
|
|||
|
conflicts.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
9. COUNTERFEIT MESSAGES: Entering or knowingly distributing
|
|||
|
counterfeit messages shall be considered excessively
|
|||
|
annoying and a violation of Fidonet policy enforceable under
|
|||
|
the terms of Fidonet policy. As used in this paragraph, a
|
|||
|
counterfeit message is defined as any message entered using
|
|||
|
another person's name, handle or node address with the
|
|||
|
intent of deceiving others about the true author of the
|
|||
|
message. No handles shall be used to enter messages to
|
|||
|
knowingly provoke, inflame, or upset participants in a
|
|||
|
conference with the purpose of deceiving others about the
|
|||
|
true identity of the author.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
10. SYSOP'S RESPONSIBILITY: It is the responsibility of each
|
|||
|
Sysop to make every reasonable effort to assure that the
|
|||
|
users on his board conform to the provisions of this policy
|
|||
|
document. A Sysop may be held responsible for the acts of
|
|||
|
his users unless the Sysop can show that a reasonable
|
|||
|
attempt was made to conform to this policy document.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
11. ECHOMAIL SOFTWARE: Echomail software which does not conform
|
|||
|
to the minimum acceptable standards as defined by the
|
|||
|
Fidonet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC) shall lead to
|
|||
|
disciplinary action as described previously in this
|
|||
|
document.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
12. HOST ROUTING OF ECHOMAIL: Host routing of Echomail without
|
|||
|
the prior consent of both the Sending and Receiving Hosts
|
|||
|
shall lead to disciplinary action as described previously in
|
|||
|
this document. See Section III.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
13. INTER-NETWORK CONFERENCES: It is the general policy of
|
|||
|
Fidonet to encourage the development of INTER-NETWORK
|
|||
|
CONFERENCES. It shall be the duty of those providing the
|
|||
|
INTER-NETWORK CONFERENCE links to remove foreign net
|
|||
|
distribution identifiers which will adversely effect the
|
|||
|
distribution of the Echomail Conference while in Fidonet.
|
|||
|
The INTER-NETWORK CONFERENCE links maintained in Fidonet
|
|||
|
shall be operated in a manner not to interfere with the
|
|||
|
foreign network's distribution of Echomail. INTER-NETWORK
|
|||
|
CONFERENCE links maintained in FidoNet must also conform to
|
|||
|
General FidoNet Policy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
14. DEFAMATORY POSTING: The posting of any DEFAMATORY MESSAGE
|
|||
|
other than in conferences dedicated to this purpose (i.e.
|
|||
|
FLAME) shall lead to disciplinary action as described
|
|||
|
previously in this document. See Section III. The posting
|
|||
|
of substantiated facts shall not be considered a violation
|
|||
|
under this section.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
15. ADDING OR REMOVING CONFERENCES FROM THE Backbone: A
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 23 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
conference may be added to the Backbone only at the request
|
|||
|
of the RECOGNIZED Conference Moderator. A conference must
|
|||
|
be registered with the Echolist Coordinator before it can be
|
|||
|
added to the Backbone.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A conference may be removed from the Backbone by lack of
|
|||
|
traffic. A committee composed of the ZEC and 4 RECs shall
|
|||
|
review the status of backbone echos every 3 months. At
|
|||
|
which time those echos which have not maintained a minimum
|
|||
|
10 messages a week over the preceding 3 months will be noted
|
|||
|
and their Conference moderators will be contacted. These
|
|||
|
conferences will be given 1 months to improve their traffic
|
|||
|
or be withdrawn from Fidonet backbone distribution. The
|
|||
|
recognized conference moderator may request removal of their
|
|||
|
conference from the Fidonet backbone distribution at their
|
|||
|
discretion.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
16. TOPOLOGY and DUPLICATE MESSAGES: Cross Regional links should
|
|||
|
be avoided as they increase the risk of improper linking and
|
|||
|
generation of duplicate messages. Cross Regional links may
|
|||
|
only be established with the knowledge of the REC in both
|
|||
|
regions. The REC must be notified prior to or at the time
|
|||
|
of the link being established. If an REC determines that a
|
|||
|
cross regional link is contributing to the creation of
|
|||
|
duplicate messages, the REC may request that the link be
|
|||
|
terminated.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The use of the PATHline option is required for all out of
|
|||
|
region links.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If a sysop has a prior history of creating duplicate
|
|||
|
messages because of out of region links, the REC may require
|
|||
|
prior notification and approval before an out of region link
|
|||
|
can be established.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Cross Regional links are permitted without notification if
|
|||
|
one of those systems is a dead-end. Should the status of
|
|||
|
this link change, then notification is required.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Each REC will do their best to make available high speed
|
|||
|
hubs, out of state hubs, PC Pursuit hubs, etc., to
|
|||
|
facilitate the low cost, efficient movement of mail within
|
|||
|
their respective Region.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Any Sysop who willfully and knowingly establishes links that
|
|||
|
either create duplicate loops (topology that creates
|
|||
|
circular feeds) or who refuses to break such links upon
|
|||
|
request by their NEC, REC, or ZEC shall be subject to
|
|||
|
disciplinary action as described previously in this
|
|||
|
document. See Section III.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
17. MESSAGE STANDARDS: Until the adoption of a superseding
|
|||
|
standard by the Fidonet Technical Standards Committee, the
|
|||
|
following Echomail message standards are recommended:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) Eight-bit characters (ASCII 128-255) and non-
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 24 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
printing low-order codes (ASCII 2-31) are prohibited,
|
|||
|
except the use of 8Dh (soft <CR> character) per FTS-
|
|||
|
0004. This is not intended to discourage participation
|
|||
|
of foreign zones or networks, which may permit said
|
|||
|
characters. Any echomail processor should pass
|
|||
|
information exactly as it was received, without
|
|||
|
stripping any non-standard characters.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
b) Origin lines should be limited to 79 characters
|
|||
|
including the required ending of a proper network
|
|||
|
address (i.e. Zone:Net/Node.Point with zone and point
|
|||
|
being optional).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
c) Tear lines should be limited to 35 characters
|
|||
|
including the required "---" lead-in. These should
|
|||
|
only contain packer or editor program identification.
|
|||
|
Tear lines for message editors are discouraged. If an
|
|||
|
editor adds a tear line, it should also add an origin
|
|||
|
line to avoid multiple tear lines.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
d) "Extra" origin lines (ZoneGating) are limited to
|
|||
|
essential information only. This consists of the
|
|||
|
required lead-in plus the network name "Gateway" and
|
|||
|
optionally the software ID followed by a Zone:Net/Node
|
|||
|
address.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Example:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
" * Origin: FidoNet Gateway (TComm 88:372/666)"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
e) SEEN-BY addresses should be in sorted order.
|
|||
|
Multiple AKA's are not allowed in SEEN-BY lines unless
|
|||
|
you have more than one address which processes mail.
|
|||
|
Or for one month during change of an existing address
|
|||
|
(to avoid duplicates to the previous address). Node 0
|
|||
|
addresses should not be used for echomail distribution.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
f) All current FTSC specifications must be followed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
VI. ENFORCEMENT
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Enforcement of this policy document shall be under the
|
|||
|
provisions of General FidoNet policy. Complaints concerning
|
|||
|
Echomail violations defined under this policy may be filed
|
|||
|
by the aggrieved individual, the conference moderator or by
|
|||
|
any level of Echomail Coordinator to the appropriate *C
|
|||
|
level. All complaints made pursuant to this policy must be
|
|||
|
made within 60 days of the date of occurrence or discovery.
|
|||
|
Complaints shall be filed under the provisions of General
|
|||
|
Fidonet Policy, with a copy to the respective *EC.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Enforcement is immediate, with any currently existing
|
|||
|
software allowed 60 days to conform (from the date EchoPol1
|
|||
|
goes into effect). A 30-day extension may be granted solely
|
|||
|
at the discretion of the ZEC if efforts to bring about
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 25 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
compliance are clear. Continued use of aberrant software
|
|||
|
after this period shall be deemed excessively annoying.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
VII. ADOPTION OF POLICY
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. ADOPTION: This policy shall become effective upon
|
|||
|
ratification by a simple majority of those voting. Those
|
|||
|
eligible to vote shall be the IC, ZCs, RCs, NCs, ZECs, RECs,
|
|||
|
and NECs. Those individuals holding more than one position
|
|||
|
can cast only one vote.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. GRANDFATHER CLAUSE: Within 60 days of adoption of this
|
|||
|
policy, moderators shall be appointed for all existing
|
|||
|
Echomail Conferences which do not now have a moderator.
|
|||
|
Moderators shall be appointed by the ZEC from those
|
|||
|
volunteering as moderator or if no volunteer is available
|
|||
|
then the ZEC shall request and appoint a moderator for the
|
|||
|
conference. In the case where more than one individual
|
|||
|
claims to be the conference moderator and no agreement can
|
|||
|
be reached, the ZEC may order the conference retired and ban
|
|||
|
the further use of the specific conference name. Failure of
|
|||
|
the individuals to retire the conference name shall be
|
|||
|
deemed excessively annoying behavior.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
VI. BACKBONE STRUCTURE
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This section is for information purposes only. It gives a
|
|||
|
plain English description of the current structure and
|
|||
|
operation of the Backbone. The ZEC may change this
|
|||
|
structure without amending this document.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
At the top of the Echomail distribution network, there are
|
|||
|
systems commonly called Stars. These systems are usually
|
|||
|
dedicated to passing Echomail. The stars operate at the
|
|||
|
discretion and direction of the ZEC. At the time of this
|
|||
|
writing there are 3 stars, each has a backup system/plan in
|
|||
|
the event of a failure. In general, the Stars link to one
|
|||
|
another and feed the RECs.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The RECs are then responsible for distribution of the
|
|||
|
echomail within their Region. Normally, the REC will feed
|
|||
|
the NECs in that region.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The NEC is responsible for distribution of Echomail to the
|
|||
|
individual Sysops within a net.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Note that the RECs and NECs can appoint Hubs to help in the
|
|||
|
distribution of Echomail. That is, they do not have to
|
|||
|
directly feed the lower level.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is the distribution GOAL. Because of less expensive
|
|||
|
phone rates and other reasons, this distribution method is
|
|||
|
not followed exactly. Any change to the above requires
|
|||
|
agreement of the *EC's involved. All *ECs will use all the
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 26 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
tools at their disposal, such as hubs, high speed modems,
|
|||
|
ROA, Wide Area Calling plans, PC Pursuit, corporate
|
|||
|
sponsorship, etc., to provide fast, efficient, and cost
|
|||
|
effective movement of echomail.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Echopol Committee
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mike Ratledge
|
|||
|
Norm Henke
|
|||
|
Rick McWilliams
|
|||
|
Barry Shatswell
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[This may give the clamoring newbies and Echomail weenies an idea
|
|||
|
where some of the wacky ideas concerning Echomail came from. With
|
|||
|
something to compare it to, let's see them come up with one that
|
|||
|
makes sense in 1997.] [fnord]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[And, folks, when you write these things, PLEASE DON'T right justify
|
|||
|
them. All that white space is a real pain to remove. And chip in
|
|||
|
for a spell-checker.] Ed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 27 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
GETTING TECHNICAL
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
No more "Getting technical" ?
|
|||
|
by Frank Ellermann, 2:240/5815.1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I hate the idea, that now after all old FTSC documents the "Getting
|
|||
|
technical" corner could vanish from FidoNews. And there are lots of
|
|||
|
other interesting technical documents, which should be part of the
|
|||
|
FTSC library. So when my time allows it, I'll submit some texts I'm
|
|||
|
aware of. The first one is easy, a FSC proposal lost somewhere in
|
|||
|
cyber space between David Nugent and me... Fortunately, because here
|
|||
|
is the newest third edition: Z2C approved X2C and X2S as user flags in
|
|||
|
zone 2... :-)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Document: FSC-????
|
|||
|
| Version: 003
|
|||
|
| Date: 03 July, 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Zone 2 nodelist flags
|
|||
|
Frank Ellermann, 2:240/5815.1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Introduction
|
|||
|
------------
|
|||
|
This document informs about known differences of FidoNet zone 2
|
|||
|
nodelist flags from FTS-0005.003. The ultimate sources for these
|
|||
|
informations are the current zone 2 nodelist epilog and the setup
|
|||
|
for flag corrections at Z2C, but it may be difficult to get these
|
|||
|
sources for readers in other zones.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FTS-0005 flags
|
|||
|
--------------
|
|||
|
The following flags are used as specified in FTS-0005.003:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
CM Node accepts mail 24 hours a day
|
|||
|
MO Node does not accept human callers
|
|||
|
LO Node accepts calls only from valid listed node numbers
|
|||
|
in the current FidoNet nodelist
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
V21 ITU-T V21 300 bps full duplex
|
|||
|
V22 ITU-T V22 1200 bps full duplex
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In zone 2 a value of 1200 in the former "baud rate" field implies
|
|||
|
V22. Today only two nodes not supporting at least V22bis or ISDN
|
|||
|
still exist in the zone 2 segment, therefore the flags V21 and V22
|
|||
|
are obsolescent. Both flags should be dropped from FTS-0005.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
V29 ITU-T V29 9600 bps half duplex
|
|||
|
V33 ITU-T V33
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
V33 cannot be used in connecting Fido nodes over public dial-up
|
|||
|
lines and is most probably a historical error in FTS-0005. This
|
|||
|
flag should be removed from FTS-0005 a.s.a.p. A similar argument
|
|||
|
is applicable on V29, and few nodes flagging V29 today all support
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 28 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
at least V32. The next version of FTS-0005 should drop V29.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
V32 ITU-T V32 9600 bps full duplex
|
|||
|
-> V32B ITU-T V32bis 14400 bps full duplex (implies V32)
|
|||
|
V34 ITU-T V34 28800 bps full duplex
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FTS-0005 specifies V32b and V42b (capital V and small b), current
|
|||
|
nodelist practice in FidoNet shows all combinations of small and
|
|||
|
capital letters for flags. This was no problem before FSC-0062
|
|||
|
introduced case-sensitive flags. In zone 2 all old flags except
|
|||
|
from FSC-0062 flags are upper case, and a NODEDIFF changing this
|
|||
|
convention would be annoying. The best solution is to stick to the
|
|||
|
current practice and treat all old flags as case-insensitive.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
H96 Hayes V9600
|
|||
|
HST USR Courier HST up to 9600 (implies MNP)
|
|||
|
H14 USR Courier HST up to 14400 (implies HST)
|
|||
|
-> H16 USR Courier HST up to 16800 (implies H14 and V42B)
|
|||
|
MAX Microcom AX/96xx series
|
|||
|
PEP Packet Ensemble Protocol
|
|||
|
CSP Compucom Speedmodem
|
|||
|
-> ZYX Zyxel series 16800 bps (implies V32B and V42B)
|
|||
|
-> V32T V.32 Terbo 19200 bps (implies V32B)
|
|||
|
VFC V.Fast Class 28800 bps
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If a flag directly or indirectly implies other flags, then these
|
|||
|
other flags are not shown in a nodelist entry, because this would
|
|||
|
be redundant. Unfortunately the rules for redundancies in zone 2
|
|||
|
and FTS-0005 are different. Zone 2 continued to avoid redundancy
|
|||
|
with most "new" flags, but FTS-0005.003 specified no redundancies
|
|||
|
for "new" flags like ZYX, H16, V32T, or VFC. "New" flags in this
|
|||
|
context are flags approved by FidoNet International Coordinators
|
|||
|
since 1989, when FTS-0005.TXT, the predecessor of FTS-0005.003, was
|
|||
|
published.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For details see the chapter "implications" below, for now only
|
|||
|
note, that in zone 2 H16 implies V42B, ZYX implies V32B and V42B,
|
|||
|
and V32T implies V32B.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Zone 1 and zone 2 have introduced a user flag Z19 approved by the
|
|||
|
corresponding Zone Coordinator. User flags are discussed later,
|
|||
|
for now only note, that in zone 2 ZYX is specified as Zyxel 16k8,
|
|||
|
while FTS-0005.003 not knowing Z19 specifies ZYX as generic flag
|
|||
|
for all Zyxel protocol speeds.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| Today there is no more node in FidoNet still flagging MAX, this
|
|||
|
flag is obsolete and should be dropped from FTS-0005. The flags
|
|||
|
HST, H14, and CSP should be marked as obsolescent.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
MNP Microcom Networking Protocol error correction
|
|||
|
V42 ITU-T LAP-M error correction w/fallback to MNP 1-4
|
|||
|
-> V42B ITU-T LAP-M error correction w/fallback to MNP 1-5
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As mentioned above FTS-0005 specifies V42b (capital V, small b).
|
|||
|
In zone 2 all case-insensitive flags are listed in upper case.
|
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|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 29 7 Jul 1997
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|
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|
|
|||
|
The next version of FTS-0005 will probably adopt the better V42B
|
|||
|
and MNP definitions of the zone 3 nodelist epilog. FTS-0005.003
|
|||
|
specifies an implication of V42 by V42B, but the exact meaning of
|
|||
|
the flag MNP is unclear. Most probably this flag was meant to
|
|||
|
indicate support of MNP 1-4, and in this sense V42B implies MNP:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
MNP Microcom Networking Protocol 1-4 error correction
|
|||
|
V42 ITU-T LAP-M error correction w/fallback to MNP 1-4
|
|||
|
V42B ITU-T V.42 LAP-M plus V.42bis BTLZ data compression
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In zone 2 MNP is considered as redundant, if V42B is flagged or
|
|||
|
implied by other flags like H16, ZYX, or Z19.
|
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|
|
|||
|
| MN No compression supported in insecure inbound
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
XA Bark and WaZOO file/update requests
|
|||
|
XB Bark file/update requests, WaZOO file requests
|
|||
|
XC Bark file requests, WaZOO file/update requests
|
|||
|
XP Bark file/update requests
|
|||
|
XR Bark and WaZOO file requests
|
|||
|
XW WaZOO file requests
|
|||
|
XX WaZOO file/update requests
|
|||
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|
|||
|
These flags are equivalent in FTS-0005 and in the zone 2 segment.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Gx..x Gateway to domain 'x..x'
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Valid values for this flag are assigned by the Fido International
|
|||
|
Coordinator, FTS-0005.003 explicitly mentions GUUCP. In zone 2
|
|||
|
only GUUCP gateways are flagged.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
#01 Zone 5 mail hour (01:00 - 02:00 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
#02 Zone 2 mail hour (02:30 - 03:30 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
-> #08 Zone 4 mail hour (08:00 - 09:00 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
#09 Zone 1 mail hour (09:00 - 10:00 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
#18 Zone 3 mail hour (18:00 - 19:00 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
#20 Zone 6 mail hour (20:00 - 21:00 UTC) w/ Bell 212A
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The variants !01, !02, !08, !09, !18, and !20 indicate missing Bell
|
|||
|
212A support. In zone 2 #02 or !02 would be obviously redundant.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Today less than five 1200 modems (V22 or Bell 212A) are listed.
|
|||
|
A future version of FTS-0005 should drop !mn variants together with
|
|||
|
V21 and V22 flags.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Further most non-CM systems flagging #mn or !mn today probably want
|
|||
|
to show additional online times instead of additional mail hours.
|
|||
|
As soon as FSC-0062 flags have been approved by the IC or adopted
|
|||
|
as FTS by the FTSC, the following version of FTS-0005 should mark
|
|||
|
#mn as obsolescent and recommend the more flexible FSC-0062 flags
|
|||
|
(see below).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
User flags
|
|||
|
----------
|
|||
|
An example for one of several problems in zone 2 with user flags:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 30 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...,U,Z19,V110H,V120L,V120H,X75,ENC,NEC
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
These flags indicate a modern Zyxel ISDN-modem and two additional
|
|||
|
user flags ENC and NEC. This possible user flags string contains
|
|||
|
34 characters, but at most 32 characters are allowed in FTS-0005.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...,U,Z19,V110L,V110H,X75,ISDNA,ISDNB,ISDNC
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
During the period for the replacement of old by new ISDN flags
|
|||
|
(several months !) many nodes listed both old and new flags for
|
|||
|
maximal compatibility, and no problems with nodelist compilers
|
|||
|
or mailers caused by too long user flags strings were reported.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Therefore the length limit in FTS-0005 is probably unnecessary
|
|||
|
and at least inconsequent: Other nodelist fields like the system
|
|||
|
name are unlimited, so why only restrict the user flags string? To
|
|||
|
help developers an upper limit of e.g. 255 characters for a
|
|||
|
nodelist line and 63 characters for fields 3 to 6 would be more
|
|||
|
useful.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The next problem with user flag strings as specified in FTS-0005 is
|
|||
|
their introduction by the letter U with no comma following:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nodelist compilers could parse ...,UISDN,USR in user flags ISDN and
|
|||
|
USR. But USR cannot be approved as "real" flag, because the
|
|||
|
combination ...,USR,UISDN would then be parsed in SR and UISDN.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Other side effects of the FTS-0005 specification are additional
|
|||
|
difficulties in finding flags. Almost all flags are separated by a
|
|||
|
comma, only the first user flag can be an exception to this simple
|
|||
|
rule. If the order of user flags has no meaning, then...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...,UV120L,V120H
|
|||
|
...,UV120H,V120L
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
... are equivalent. A "simple" solution of this problem could be
|
|||
|
to treat UV120L as synonym for V120L, and UV120H as synonym for
|
|||
|
V120H. Similar problems show up, if user flags are counted, etc.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Obviously a nodelist compiler looking for user flags has always to
|
|||
|
consider the case "user flag separated by comma". In zone 2 this
|
|||
|
idea was simply extended to the first user flag:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
All flags are separated by commas. Flags not yet approved by the
|
|||
|
International Coordinator or the FTSC (i.e. user flags only used
|
|||
|
experimentally or locally) are separated by a new pseudo flag U.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> U pseudo flag to the left of at least one user flag
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
All flags following this pseudo flag U are user flags, all flags
|
|||
|
before this pseudo flag are "real" flags specified in FTS-0005 or
|
|||
|
approved by the International Coordinator.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Because this definition should be compatible with any reasonable
|
|||
|
software implementation based on FTS-0005.003, and simplifies the
|
|||
|
handling of user flags significantly, a future FTS-0005 version
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 31 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
will hopefully adopt it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Approved zone 2 user flags
|
|||
|
--------------------------
|
|||
|
In zone 2 user flags have to be approved by the Zone Coordinator.
|
|||
|
Currently the following zone 2 user flags exist:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> V110L ITU-T V.110 19k2 async 'Low' (former ISDNA)
|
|||
|
-> V110H ITU-T V.110 38k4 async 'High' (former ISDNB)
|
|||
|
-> V120L ITU-T V.120 56k6 async, N1 = 259, W = 7, modulo 8
|
|||
|
-> V120H ITU-T V.120 64k async, N1 = 259, W = 7, modulo 8
|
|||
|
-> X75 ITU-T X.75 SLP (single link procedure),
|
|||
|
64kbit/s B channel; layer 2 max. framesize N1 = 2048,
|
|||
|
window size W = 2, frame numbering modulo 8;
|
|||
|
layer 3 transparent (no packet layer)
|
|||
|
-> ISDN Other configuration, used only if none of above fits
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
These ISDN flags follow the specification in FSC-0091.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> Tyz Online time flags as specified in FSC-0062
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The flag Tyz is used by non-CM nodes online not only during ZMH,
|
|||
|
y is a letter indicating the start and z a letter indicating the
|
|||
|
end of the online period as defined below (times in UTC):
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A 0:00, a 0:30, B 1:00, b 1:30, C 2:00, c 2:30,
|
|||
|
D 3:00, d 3:30, E 4:00, e 4:30, F 5:00, f 5:30,
|
|||
|
G 6:00, g 6:30, H 7:00, h 7:30, I 8:00, i 8:30,
|
|||
|
J 9:00, j 9:30, K 10:00, k 10:30, L 11:00, l 11:30,
|
|||
|
M 12:00, m 12:30, N 13:00, n 13:30, O 14:00, o 14:30,
|
|||
|
P 15:00, p 15:30, Q 16:00, q 16:30, R 17:00, r 17:30,
|
|||
|
S 18:00, s 18:30, T 19:00, t 19:30, U 20:00, u 20:30,
|
|||
|
V 21:00, v 21:30, W 20:00, w 20:30, X 23:00, x 23:30.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For example TuB shows an online period from 20:30 until 1:00 UTC.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> Z19 Zyxel series 19200 bps (implies ZYX)
|
|||
|
-> X2C x2 client w/ 56000 bps (should imply V34 and V42B)
|
|||
|
-> X2S x2 server w/ 56000 bps (should imply V34 and V42B)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> K12 Systems offering all educational K12-conferences
|
|||
|
-> ENC The node accepts inbound encrypted mail
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> NC Network Coordinator (only if the NC is not the host)
|
|||
|
-> NEC Net Echomail Coordinator (at most one per net)
|
|||
|
-> REC Region Echomail Coordinator (at most one per region)
|
|||
|
-> ZEC Zone Echomail Coordinator (at most one per zone)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Redundant AKAs used to indicate echomail coordination in zone 2 are
|
|||
|
no longer permitted. One *EC flag is valid for all AKAs of a given
|
|||
|
sysop.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag implications
|
|||
|
-----------------
|
|||
|
Flag implications directly or indirectly specified in FTS-0005:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 32 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HST => MNP
|
|||
|
H14 => MNP HST
|
|||
|
H16 => MNP HST H14
|
|||
|
V42b => V42 (MNP ?)
|
|||
|
V32b => V32
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag implications specified in the zone 2 nodelist epilog:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HST => MNP
|
|||
|
H14 => HST MNP
|
|||
|
-> H16 => V42 MNP V42B H14 HST
|
|||
|
-> V42B => V42 MNP
|
|||
|
-> ZYX => V42 MNP V42B V32B
|
|||
|
-> Z19 => V42 MNP V42B V32B ZYX
|
|||
|
V32B => V32
|
|||
|
-> V32T => V32 V32B
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-> V110L => ISDN
|
|||
|
-> V110H => ISDN
|
|||
|
-> V120L => ISDN
|
|||
|
-> V120H => ISDN
|
|||
|
-> X75 => ISDN
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The latter ISDN flag redundancies are a consequence of FSC-0091.
|
|||
|
| Maybe some of the following implications could be added in zone 2:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
VFC => V32 V32B
|
|||
|
| or VFC => V32 V32B MNP V42 V42B
|
|||
|
| X2C => V34
|
|||
|
| or X2C => V34 MNP V42 V42B
|
|||
|
| X2S => V34
|
|||
|
| or X2S => V34 MNP V42 V42B
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag implications (i.e. not listing redundant flags) have several
|
|||
|
advantages: Some old nodelist tools are unable to handle too long
|
|||
|
lines. Old flags like HST, MNP, V42, or V32 vanish automatically,
|
|||
|
if they are implied by H16, V42B, V32B, or better. Redundancies
|
|||
|
defined globally for the whole nodelist help to avoid flag errors.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Baud rate" field
|
|||
|
-----------------
|
|||
|
The former "baud rate" field 7 in the nodelist as specified in FTS-
|
|||
|
0005 is nearly useless today: Except from a few remaining 1200 and
|
|||
|
2400 nodes almost all nodelist entries show either 9600 for all
|
|||
|
modem protocols better than V22bis or 300 for ISDN only nodes. No
|
|||
|
more V21 or Bell 103 modems are listed today.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Obscure "baud rate" values 19200 and 38400 specified in FTS-0005
|
|||
|
have not been used in the FidoNet nodelist. So all a reasonable
|
|||
|
nodelist compiler can do today, is treat 300 as indicator for ISDN
|
|||
|
only, and treat unknown or missing values in field 7 like 9600.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A new meaning for field 7 as speed field could be really useful.
|
|||
|
An example is ZYX, if we would have 16800, 19200, 28800, and 33600
|
|||
|
as speed values, then their combination with ZYX is all we need
|
|||
|
technically, Z19 would be unnecessary. Another example is HST,
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 33 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
flags H14 and H16 are unnecessary, if HST is combined with 9600,
|
|||
|
14400, 16800, 28800, or 33600. Variants of PEP could be shown in
|
|||
|
the speed field without new flags. "Enhanced V32.terbo" could be
|
|||
|
shown by 21600.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Most important: V34 may have the famous bug not allowing connects
|
|||
|
from new "V34+", unless the caller disabled symbol rate 3429. If
|
|||
|
"V34+" is indicated by speed 33600, then an appropriate setup for
|
|||
|
all kinds of V34 connects is possible.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A future version of FTS-0005 hopefully allows the following speed
|
|||
|
values in field 7:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
300 reserved for ISDN only (for historical reasons)
|
|||
|
1200 V22 or Bell 212A (obsolete)
|
|||
|
2400 implies V22bis
|
|||
|
9600 default, used with V32, HST, H96, PEP, CSP
|
|||
|
12000 rare variant of V32
|
|||
|
14400 used with V32b or HST (obsoleting H14)
|
|||
|
16800 used with ZYX or HST (obsoleting H16)
|
|||
|
19200 used with V32T or ZYX (obsoleting Z19)
|
|||
|
21600 rare variant of V32T (no "H21" needed)
|
|||
|
28800 used with VFC or V34
|
|||
|
33600 used with V34 (no V34+ or V34b needed)
|
|||
|
| 56000 used with X2C, X2S, or "K56FLEX"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The following values should be specified in FTS-0005, because they
|
|||
|
are already used in nodelists of other FTNs:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
empty no value, useful for Pvt nodes or in point lists
|
|||
|
19200 used with V110L, V32T, or ZYX (obsoleting Z19)
|
|||
|
38400 used with V110H
|
|||
|
| 56000 used with V120L, X2C, X2S, or "K56FLEX"
|
|||
|
| 64000 used with V120H, X75, X2S, or other ISDN equipment
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Allowing more than 12 speed values or allowing ISDN speeds could
|
|||
|
break old software. Therefore the transition could be done in two
|
|||
|
steps, first add all non-ISDN speeds (ISDN only shown as 300).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Later remove 300 (ISDN only) and 1200 (obsolete) replacing 300 by
|
|||
|
19200, 38400, 56000, or 64000.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thanks to...
|
|||
|
------------
|
|||
|
Ben Baker St. Louis nodelist format
|
|||
|
Rick Moore FTS-0005.TXT
|
|||
|
David Nugent FTS-0005.003 and NLTOOLS
|
|||
|
Jonny Bergdahl ERRFLAGS 2.6
|
|||
|
Ward Dossche Zone 2 nodelist epilog
|
|||
|
Arjen Lentz FSC-0091.001
|
|||
|
David J. Thomas FSC-0062.003
|
|||
|
Leonard Erickson CHECKNL 2.14 and many discussions in NET_DEV
|
|||
|
Jim Barchuk LNDL 2.7
|
|||
|
Marius Ellen FASTV7 2.03j (but I still prefer 1.45b ;-)
|
|||
|
Jan Vermeulen, Jan Ceuleers, Ian Smith, and many others...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 34 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- eof -
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 35 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
COORDINATORS CORNER
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 185
|
|||
|
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
|
|||
|
ZC/2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
|Zone|Nl-157|Nodelist-164|Nodelist-171|Nodelist-178|Nodelist-185|%%|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 1 | 8182| 8182 0 | 8182 0 | 8182 0 | 7828 -354 |30|
|
|||
|
| 2 | 15774|15703 -71 |15666 -37 |15640 -26 |15577 -63 |60|
|
|||
|
| 3 | 758| 758 0 | 758 0 | 743 -15 | 728 -15 | 3|
|
|||
|
| 4 | 519| 514 -5 | 514 0 | 519 5 | 517 -2 | 2|
|
|||
|
| 5 | 87| 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 0|
|
|||
|
| 6 | 1078| 1078 0 | 1079 1 | 1079 0 | 1079 0 | 4|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 26398|26322 -76 |26286 -36 |26250 -36 |25816 -434 |
|
|||
|
+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 36 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
ECHOING
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ECHOLIST
|
|||
|
The EchoMail Conference List
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
01 July 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Due to the proximity of my vacation, the July issue of the Elist will
|
|||
|
be dropped. The next regular issue will be 01 August 1997. My
|
|||
|
apologies for the inconvenience.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Adrian Walker
|
|||
|
Echolist Coordinator
|
|||
|
1:1/201
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
---ooo000ooo---
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 37 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
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Don't risk being banned! Use FIDOTEST.
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Almost ALL other echoes FORBID posting TEST messages. Where do you
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and your users send test' posts to ensure they are leaving your
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system? Which Backboned echo can you use to ensure your posts are
|
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reaching the far corners of Z1, or to see if upstream/downstream
|
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systems are wrecking or loosing your message?
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Why not a specific echo devoted to testing echomail links?
|
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There is one! If you believe it to be beneficial for the Fidonet
|
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community to have a _dedicated_ and _authorized_ echo for testing,
|
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be sure to ask your REC to ensure that
|
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|
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FIDOTEST -
|
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the Fidonet TEST echo and malfunction conference gets
|
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Z1-Backboned.
|
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For your edification, the complete echo rules follow:
|
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FIDOTEST Echo Rules and Information
|
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|
===================================
|
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Revision 1, July 1997
|
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(This document may be revised without prior notice.)
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|
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>> Description:
|
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Fidonet TEST echo and malfunction conference
|
|||
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|
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>> Extended Description:
|
|||
|
Use the TEST echo to post TEST ECHOMAIL! Useful
|
|||
|
for checking your tosser/scanner/FTS mail software
|
|||
|
configurations. **ALSO: discuss/query about broken
|
|||
|
links, dupe loops, and other problems within Fidonet
|
|||
|
and the North American Backbone on all net/region/zone
|
|||
|
levels here. All users and sysops welcome.
|
|||
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>> Moderator:
|
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Ronnie Grant, 1:2612/114, 1:102/836, 1:3618/555,
|
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ronnie.grant@global.nws.net, ronnie.grant@bbsnets.com, rg@dhp.com,
|
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ronnie@eqcity.ktb.net
|
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>> Rules:
|
|||
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1. No off-topic posts.
|
|||
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2. No profanity.
|
|||
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3. No "flooding" or other abuse of the echo.
|
|||
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4. No illegal activities or posts.
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|||
|
|
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|
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FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 38 7 Jul 1997
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
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Remember: only YOU can make sure your REC knows your position
|
|||
|
on the backboning of FIDOTEST. Netmail him today, because
|
|||
|
without your help, tomorrow's Fidonet may never arrive.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ronnie L. Grant
|
|||
|
Moderator, Fidonet FIDOTEST echo
|
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|
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|
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=================================================================
|
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NOTICES
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=================================================================
|
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Future History
|
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|
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9 Jul 1997
|
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Independence Day, Argentina.
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1 Aug 1997
|
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International FidoNet PENPAL [Echo] meeting in Dijon, France
|
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|
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13 Oct 1997
|
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Thanksgiving Day, Canada.
|
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|
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1 Dec 1997
|
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World AIDS Day.
|
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|
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10 Dec 1997
|
|||
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Nobel Day, Sweden.
|
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|
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12 Jan 1998
|
|||
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HAL 9000 is one year old today.
|
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|
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30 Apr 1998
|
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Queens Day, Holland.
|
|||
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|
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22 May 1998
|
|||
|
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
|
|||
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|
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|
1 Dec 1998
|
|||
|
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
31 Dec 1999
|
|||
|
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
1 Jan 2000
|
|||
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
|||
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|
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15 Sep 2000
|
|||
|
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
1 Jan 2001
|
|||
|
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
|||
|
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
|
|||
|
By Christopher Baker on Wed Jul 02 22:58:14 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: C. Ingersoll @ 1:2623/71
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 40 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
To: Editor @ 1:1/23
|
|||
|
Date: 01 Jul 97 02:14:46
|
|||
|
Subj: Fidonet via Internet Hubs
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Speed| Node# | Operator | Facilities | Basic Rate
|
|||
|
-----+-----------+-------------------+-------------------+-----------
|
|||
|
T1 | 1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | $30mo.
|
|||
|
T1 | 1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP | $25mo.
|
|||
|
T1 | 1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | $24mo.
|
|||
|
T1 | 1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP, TransX | $5/$20
|
|||
|
T1 | 1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP, TransX | $10mo.
|
|||
|
64k | 1:124/7008| Ben Hamilton | FTP, VMoT, TransX | $20mo.
|
|||
|
56k | 1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | $20mo.
|
|||
|
33.6 | 1:2604/104| Jim Mclaughlin | FTP, VMoT, UUEMAIL| $1mo.
|
|||
|
33.6 | 1:2624/306| D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | $15yr.
|
|||
|
33.6 | 1:281/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | $2mo.
|
|||
|
28.8 | 1:330/204 | Patrick Rosenheim | Transx | $25yr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--
|
|||
|
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
compiled by Cindy Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978,
|
|||
|
fbn@cyberEnet.net
|
|||
|
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
|
|||
|
---
|
|||
|
* Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 41 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Latest Greatest Software Versions
|
|||
|
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Whew. Been a big month for me, but a relatively slow one for the list.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OS Platform :
|
|||
|
Software package name :
|
|||
|
Version :
|
|||
|
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
|
|||
|
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
|
|||
|
Author / Support staff contact name :
|
|||
|
Author / Support staff contact node :
|
|||
|
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
MS-DOS:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
|
|||
|
ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
|
|||
|
Announcer 1.11 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
|
|||
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
|
|||
|
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
|
|||
|
FastEcho/16 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE16
|
|||
|
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
|
|||
|
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
|
|||
|
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
|
|||
|
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
|
|||
|
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
|
|||
|
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
|
Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 42 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
|
|||
|
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
|
|||
|
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
|
|||
|
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
|
|||
|
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
|
|||
|
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
|
|||
|
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
|
|||
|
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
|
|||
|
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
|
|||
|
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
|
|||
|
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
|
|||
|
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
|
|||
|
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
|
|||
|
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
|
|||
|
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
|
|||
|
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
|
|||
|
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
|
|||
|
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
|
|||
|
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
|
|||
|
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
|
|||
|
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
|
|||
|
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
|
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
|
|||
|
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
|
|||
|
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
|
|||
|
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
|
|||
|
Silver Xpress
|
|||
|
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
|
|||
|
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
|
|||
|
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
|
|||
|
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
|
|||
|
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
|
|||
|
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
|
|||
|
Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
|
|||
|
Terminate 4.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
|
|||
|
TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
|
|||
|
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
|
|||
|
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
|
|||
|
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
|
|||
|
WaterGate 0.92 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
|
|||
|
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
|
|||
|
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
|
|||
|
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
|
|||
|
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OS/2:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
|
|||
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-27 Page 43 7 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
|
|||
|
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
|
|||
|
FleetStreet 1.19 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
|
|||
|
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
|
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
|
|||
|
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
|
|||
|
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
|
|||
|
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
|
|||
|
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
|
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
|||
|
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Windows (16-bit apps):
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Windows (32-bit apps):
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Argus 95 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUS95
|
|||
|
Argus NT 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSNT
|
|||
|
Argus NT/IP 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSIP
|
|||
|
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
|||
|
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
|
|||
|
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
|
|||
|
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Unix:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
ifmail 2.10 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
|||
|
ifmail-tx ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
|||
|
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Amiga:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
|
|||
|
CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
|
|||
|
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
|||
|
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
|||
|
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
|
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