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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 12 24 March 1997
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Christopher Baker 1:18/14 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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WHY DO SOME FIDONET FOLKS JUST DISAPPEAR?
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Lots of articles and another loss to FidoNet? ............ 1
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2. CORRECTIONS .............................................. 2
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Error in Region 14 Internet listing last week ............ 2
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
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Burt Juda's system no longer in the Nodelist? ............ 3
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Cash and Carry - Financing FidoFolks ..................... 3
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Solid Oak Software's extremist, fascist behavior ......... 5
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Doomsday is only when you decide it to be ................ 9
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Fidonet versus Internet: A Followup ...................... 11
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Fidonet Technical Standards Committee - NOTICE OF NOMIN .. 14
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Ides of March..Hog Wash! ................................. 15
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4. REVIEWS .................................................. 20
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TransNet - A new Fidonet/Internet gateway ................ 20
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5. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 22
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FSC-0052 - Making the PATH zone aware .................... 22
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FSC-0053 - Specifications for the aFLAGS field ........... 24
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6. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 28
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 080 ...... 28
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7. WE GET EMAIL ............................................. 29
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ZEC/RC19 Election notice ................................. 29
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8. NET HUMOR ................................................ 31
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If MicroSoft was in Alabama? ............................. 31
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9. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 32
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And more!
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FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 1 24 Mar 1997
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EDITORIAL
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This Issue is packed with .ARTs from all over the world. I guess we've
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finally got the readership stirred up. [grin]
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But in the midst of all this input we lost something, namely: the uucp
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Gate at 1:13/10. Burt Juda no longer appears in any capacity in the
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FidoNet Nodelist. Why? And WHO was going to tell us? ZC1 was unaware
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of it last I asked. James Young and I have been discussing it in email
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for several days and his last communication from Juda appears later.
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This lack of communication in a network dedicated to communication
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mystifies this writer.
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What effect does this have on Internet gating or the fidonet.org
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domain? Is there now a NEW Guucp honcho? Who?
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Don't forget you can post info, answers, and articles et al, in the
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FIDONEWS Echo available everywhere. Otherwise, we will be waiting for
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input to next week's Issue for some answers/news.
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The Internet listings in the FidoNet by Internet Section now only
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include Region level and up listings. Net listings by Region are
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available on the FidoNews webpages listed in the Masthead. Personal
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sites may be linked to the FidoNet International WebRing also listed
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in the Masthead.
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C.B.
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CORRECTIONS
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The Region 14 page listing should read 'netins' instead of the
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'metins' that appeared in 1411.
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This error has been corrected in this Issue. Sorry for any
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confusion.
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ARTICLES
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[Burt Juda's Guucp Node and all other Nodes under his name no longer
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appear in the FidoNet Nodelist. Here's a little info on this
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event from an ongoing conversation in email.] Ed.
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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:43:03 -0600
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From: James Young <youngj@sparky3.arc.net>
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To: Christopher Baker <cbaker84@digital.net>
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Subject: Re: 1:13/10
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CB> did he say something else would replace it or is he finished?
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CB> what is/was his email address? i'd like to get something into
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CB> FidoNews tomorrow.
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Here's a copy of the message I received:
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Subject: Re: 1:13/10
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:14:34 -0500
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From: merlin@mcastl.ieee.org (Burt Juda)
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Organization: Merlin's Castle, Edison, NJ
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To: James Young <youngj@sparky3.arc.net>
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At 04:25 PM 3/14/97 -0600, James Young wrote:
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JY> I've been using 1:13/10 for some time now as my gateway and
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JY> appreciate the service that you have provided.
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JY> For the last several days, however, my system has not been able to
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JY> connect with it. Is 1:13/10 down for a while?
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Down permanently .. hardware crash.
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-30-
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[Does this mean anything to the fidonet.org domain for FidoNet to
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Internet email routing? An official notice would have been nice.
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[sigh] Guucp gurus please reply to FidoNews.] Ed.
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Cash and Carry - Financing FidoFolks
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by: Clay Tannacore (1:372/136)
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Just when you thought it was safe to start reading FIDONEWS again.
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I'm back! This time with an unforgiving message to all of the Network
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FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 4 24 Mar 1997
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EchoMail Coordinators, and the SysOps who have by way of their
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acquisitiveness damn near annihilated FidoNet. These parsimonious
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individuals who have persuaded themselves that users, and/or EchoMail
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recipients have a reverential responsibility to pay for whatever they
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(NECs or SysOps) elect to charge for. Some-how these weasels have
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decided that a federation such as FidoNet that was established as a
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network of hobbyists, should now (to suit their greedy souls) become
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the Federal Savings and Loan Association for Retarded (OOPs, did I
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misspell that last word?) SysOps and NECs. This technique of self
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enrichment is a plague within the FidoNet community and requires
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immediate attention. When I say "immediate action" I do not mean some
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co-conspirator *looking into it*, I mean every damn Regional
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Coordinator launching a extensive inquiry into this agendum. I'm
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sure that this form of self enrichment has won the wide embrace of
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those who have profited by it, but the rest of us are witnessing the
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demise of our user base, and FidoNet as our parent organization.
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For those of you who are not familiar with what I have been doing
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in the most recent past. I have for the last 76 days been researching
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complaints in reference to the charging of fees to users and the pay
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as you go fees charged for EchoMail (NEC's) distribution. Be it known
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that I have only been able to accumulate statistics from 26 different
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nets. This was accomplished by personal contact with various SysOps
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in those nets, and obtaining copies of their respective EchoMail
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policy documents. Without elaborating on individual net policies, I
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will state that there are a number of bulletin board systems that
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charge a user fee (aka, a donation, registration fee, or voluntary
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contributions) for services that should (under POLICY4.) be free of
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any expense. The proceeding statement includes access to FidoNet (and
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international) EchoMail, local EchoMail, files (sometimes shareware)
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including Copyrighted material. As a matter of fact the greatest
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number of Pay-For-Access bulletin board systems, are nothing but
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illegal software distribution points, catering to those who want low
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cost (copyright infringements) programs. However, to be fair about
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this statement, there are an abundant amount of boards that only
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charge for access to the Internet. Something that is exclusively
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harmful and destructive in nature to FidoNet as a whole.
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There are correspondingly many Network Coordinators that are for
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reasons unbeknown to me allowing the Network EchoMail Coordinators to
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place monitory assessment in excess of the cost of providing their
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services to their nets SysOps. The *buddy-buddy system* is
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widespread, and individual SysOps are being assessed amounts that can
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not be justified once telephone LD charges are reviewed. A *buddy*
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may only pay a penance for the import of 30 or more Echoes while
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another SysOp who hasn't been initiated into *The Brotherhood* will
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have to supplement the NEC's coffers by paying (his FAIR share) 10 to
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20 times as much as an amigo, even though the SysOp only carries 4 or
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5 Echoes. Don't get me wrong, there are a number of NEC operations
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that are completely within the parameters set forth in Policy 4.
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There are many NEC's that will for reasons justified to him, wavier
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the requirement of fees for certain systems. I'm in one of those
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nets that do. The NEC here (in the 372 Net) has allowed my system to
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operate without the burden on fees for EchoMail. While my system
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only imports 3 national Echoes (totally for Disabled American
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Veterans) it is without a doubt a Godsend not to have to expend the
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extra bucks each month. The trouble is, not very many other NEC's
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will do that. They have an agenda to fill, along with their pockets,
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and wouldn't give a worthwhile cause the time of day, without an
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interest payment. I have read over 19 of the local EchoMail policies,
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and without a doubt they all sound like a *financial statement*
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rather than a policy document. Sometimes this is an attempt by the
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NEC to *explain* to the SysOp why he must help out financially, and
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what he will receive in return for his buck. Nevertheless, there are
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policy documents that I have reviewed that are nothing more than the
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NEC's way of intimidating the SysOp's with refined threats. Even in
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my own net, the policy document is little more than a business type
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financial proclamation. There is a time and place for this sort of
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document, but rather than constructing a policy document laden with
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"what has to be paid", why not give a demonstration (factual, of
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course) of what it costs to operate for a month. Surely this way
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will serve two purposes. One, the SysOp gains an understanding as to
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why he is paying, and what he is getting for his money. Two, there
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is a *full disclosure" of what is *really* spent for mail distribution
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and communications, leaving no undisclosed data to cause derogatory
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or speculative talk.
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Gentlemen what I have just expounded upon is true. You know it,
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you live under it day by day. You, (whether you are a user or SysOp),
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know the practices and circumstances I quoted above are factual.
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You've seen it in almost every net. So, why not do something about
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it? Let your Regional Coordinator know your feelings. Have your NEC
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post in an open message base, his phone bill for the previous month.
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Maybe the last two or three months. Get on the NC of your net
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relating to what you feel is an unjust and inequitable way you must
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support the EchoMail system. One word of caution here. When and if
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you do as I propose, be sure you have a valid complaint. Talk to
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others in your net, find out their charges for their EchoMail.
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Compare the charges they are required to pay, and ask them to inquire
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of their friends as to their *contributions*.
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Solid Oak Software's extremist, fascist behavior
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Fredric L. Rice (frice@stbbs.com)
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The Skeptic Tank, 1:218/890.0. (818) 335-9601
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http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice/index.htm
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Right-wing extremist groups operating in the United States have been
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using the rhetoric of "Save the children!" to advance their occult
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agendas for decades. Now, with the help of technology, a new fascist
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business called "Solid Oak Software" has managed to rise above all the
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rest and get noticed.
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As described below, their Internet-access software limits the
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information that the company's leader -- Brian Milburn -- wants his
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customers to access. Even though customers are told it "saves the
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children!" the company doesn't advertise [1] the fact that the parents
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who purchase the software have no say-so in what it will allow access
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to and what it will not; the buyer unthinkingly purchases the
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extremist bias of the company's leader.
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Indeed, it gets worse: Mr. Milburn refuses to divulge the sites that
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the software won't access and has implemented very weak encryption to
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make sure that parents never learn about his extremist bias. He gets
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upset when people publicly report on some of the sites that he doesn't
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want anyone to access. (If he's embarrassed by his prejudices, he
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shouldn't expose them, I opine.)
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Buyer beware.
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As for myself, I've asked to have my web pages included in the list of
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banned sites. The cult _does_ provide a highly valuable service to
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educational organizations like mine by limiting the access to their
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web pages to educated, intelligent people. As more and more people
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become aware of what the software does, only people who share the
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company leader's bizarre bias will use it --and I don't want those
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types of people accessing my materials any way. Do you?
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[1] This may change. The company may have to start publicly admitting
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that customers can't select what they can or can not access (perhaps
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the company has already started.) People who purchase Internet-
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censoring software have the right to at least know that in addition to
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limiting the access to pornography, the software also limits access to
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educational systems and charity organizations.
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CyberWire Dispatch // Copyright (c) 1996 // December 20
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Jacking in from the "Your Agenda is Showing" Port:
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Washington -- It's a long held maxim that technology is "agenda
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neutral." Until now.
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As an earlier Dispatch investigation proved, the so-called "blocking
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software" industry, praised for enabling parents, teachers and
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corporations to block porn from being sucked into the computers of
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those trolling the Web, often comes with a shrink-wrapped, encrypted
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agenda in the form of the database of web sites and newsgroups these
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programs actually block.
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Porn sites aren't the only ones blocked. Sites with decided political
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or activist agendas, such as the National Organization for Women (NOW)
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or animal rights groups, also are blocked. Trouble is, these blocking
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software programs don't make this known to the user. For some
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companies, shedding a spotlight on their underlying agenda, makes them
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sweat bullets or foam at the ascii mouth. Such is the case with Brian
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Milburn, president of Solid Oak Software, developer of an insipidly
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named blocking program called "Cybersitter."
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When confronted with his agenda ridden software, Milburn isn't shy
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about it, indeed, he was outright indignant when he originally told
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Dispatch: "If NOW doesn't like it, tough... We have not and will not
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bow to any pressure from any organization that disagrees with [our]
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philosophy."
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So when Bennett Haselton decided to put a sharp edge on this subject
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by focusing on Cybersitter with laser like precision, Milburn went off
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the charts.
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Milburn wrote to Media3, the ISP that houses Haselton's website
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<www.peacefire.org>, saying he was adding the entire domain of Media3
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to the Cybersitter blocking database, in order to keep anyone using
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his company's product from gaining access to Haselton's article.
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Milburn ranted to Media3 that Haselton had made it "his mission in
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life to defame our product" exhibiting "extreme immaturity," by
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"routinely" publishing names of sites blocked by Cybersitter. Milburn
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claimed that Haselton may have "illegally reversed engineered" the
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Cybersitter database. Milburn has threatened legal action. Haselton,
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however, found a white knight. After hearing about Milburn's actions,
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Mike Godwin, legal counsel for the Electronic Frontier Foundation,
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decided to represent him.
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In an Email to Wired News correspondent Rebecca Vesely, who wrote
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about Milburn's beef with Haselton, Milburn said he was swamped with
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"geek-mail" from Wired News' "loyal following of pinhead idiots."
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Milburn characterized Haselton, "an aspiring felon" and said that he
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had confirmation that Haselton was the "ghost writer" for the original
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Dispatch article that broke the story of the hidden agendas in
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blocking software.
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All this bluster over Haselton, an 18-year-old with too much time on
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his hands. If right about now you're thinking that Milburn should pick
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on someone his own size, well, he's already "been there, done that"
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and got his ass kicked in the process.
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You see, after the first Dispatch article, Milburn sent us a saber-
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rattling Email. His Aug. 15th Email claimed that "your willful reverse
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|
engineering and subsequent publishing of software code is a clear
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violation" of copyright law. And although he claimed he was sure he
|
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could win a case in civil court, he was instead seeking "felony
|
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criminal prosecution" by going to the FBI with his beef.
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I referred Milburn to my lawyers at Baker & Hostetler, who promptly
|
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pointed out that Dispatch hadn't been the one to hack the cybersitter
|
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database. Further, our article was "protected by the full force of the
|
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First Amendment," our lawyers said.
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And because Dispatch only published "fragments" of the Cybersitter
|
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database (a word used first by Milburn in his own threatening letter),
|
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such publication "fits squarely within the fair use provisions" of the
|
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|
copyright act, our lawyers reminded Milburn.
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|
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|
Finally, Milburn was left to chew on this: "If you persist in accusing
|
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|
[Dispatch] falsely of copyright infringement and if you proceed with
|
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|
your ill-conceived threat to encourage the FBI to commence
|
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|
activities... you should understand that, unless the information you
|
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|
provide is accurate and complete, you and your firm may be incurring
|
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|
liability of your own."
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Not a peep has been heard from Milburn since he received that letter,
|
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until he decided to pick on the kid.
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FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 8 24 Mar 1997
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Milburn is apparently operating in some alternative reality. His so-
|
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|
called "confirmed sources" about Haselton "ghost writing" our original
|
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|
story are utterly false.
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|
Haselton had nothing to do with our article. Dispatch obtained the
|
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|
cracked code of Cybersitter and the other programs we mentioned from
|
|||
|
an entirely different source. Haselton did nothing but build on the
|
|||
|
work of our original story, but never wrote a single word of the
|
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|
article nor did he provide us with the hacked databases.
|
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|
All of Milburn's heartburn has me confused. Rather than try and slay
|
|||
|
Haselton, he should pay him for the right to reprint his article and
|
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|
findings. Milburn makes no apologies for his agenda; indeed, he is
|
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|
proud that one of his major distributors is "Focus on the Family" a
|
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|
conservative Christian organization.
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|
|||
|
And for people that brook with the conservative, straight-arrow family
|
|||
|
values ideals that Focus on the Family advocates, Cybersitter is the
|
|||
|
perfect fit. Indeed, this is the free market working at its best.
|
|||
|
Products spring up in direct response to demand. Cybersitter fits that
|
|||
|
model for a particular segment of the society. You may not like it; I
|
|||
|
certainly wouldn't use a product with this built in agenda, but nobody
|
|||
|
is making us buy it.
|
|||
|
|
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|
You would think that Milburn would eat up such "negative" press and
|
|||
|
wear it like a badge of honor. But he is too petty; too small minded.
|
|||
|
And when he discovers that Haselton did nothing more than run
|
|||
|
Cybersitter through its paces, much the same way that a reviewer for
|
|||
|
computer magazine might, and then report the findings, he'll have
|
|||
|
nobody left to harass. I hope he doesn't have a dog he can kick...
|
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|
|
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|
Have a Merry Christmas, Mr. Milburn. Peace on Earth, Good Will
|
|||
|
to Men.
|
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|
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|
Meeks out...
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|
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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|
Cybersitter Goes after Teen
|
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|
by Rebecca Vesely
|
|||
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|
|||
|
8:00 pm PST 9 Dec 96 - A teenager who founded a Net anti-censorship
|
|||
|
group could face a lawsuit from the owner of the popular blocking
|
|||
|
program Cybersitter, Solid Oak Software, on grounds that he illegally
|
|||
|
obtained the list of sites blocked by the program.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
But the 18-year-old student at Vanderbilt University who founded
|
|||
|
Peacefire, Bennett Haselton, says that he merely ran the blocking
|
|||
|
software on his computer and kept track of which sites were blocked -
|
|||
|
such as the National Organization for Women, Mother Jones, and The
|
|||
|
Well.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"According to our sources, he has engaged in illegal criminal
|
|||
|
copyright violations to further his juvenile teenaged political
|
|||
|
agenda, and reduce the effectiveness of our product," said Brian
|
|||
|
Milburn, president of Solid Oak Software.
|
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|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 9 24 Mar 1997
|
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|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Solid Oak has added Peacefire to its list of blocked sites and has
|
|||
|
asked Peacefire's Internet provider, Media3, to remove Peacefire from
|
|||
|
its server. Milburn has also said he will block out all content Media3
|
|||
|
hosts if it does not remove Haselton's site.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"It's pretty ironic that Cybersitter, which is supposed to help kids,
|
|||
|
is blocking a student-run organization," Haselton said. Peacefire was
|
|||
|
founded in August and now has about 100 members, of whom the average
|
|||
|
age is 15 years old.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Haselton wrote an article naming some of Cybersitter's blocked sites
|
|||
|
last month on the Peacefire Web site, but the site wasn't blocked
|
|||
|
until Friday, after Haselton contacted Milburn to discuss the
|
|||
|
company's blocking practices, Haselton said. The student was then told
|
|||
|
that Solid Oak had referred the matter to its legal department.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"There was no way he could have known who was on our list without
|
|||
|
breaking into our system," said Solid Oak spokesman Mark Kanter. "The
|
|||
|
filter had to be decoded by reverse engineering" - a process of taking
|
|||
|
a piece of technology and, without any knowledge of the techniques
|
|||
|
used to create it, making a copy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In an email written to Media3 on Friday, and forwarded to Wired News
|
|||
|
by Media3's administrator, Joe Hayes, Milburn said that Haselton "has
|
|||
|
made it his mission in life to defame our product," and warned that
|
|||
|
all content to Media3 - some 2,500 domain names -would be blocked on
|
|||
|
Cybersitter if Peacefire was not removed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"We realize this is an extreme measure and regret that our customers
|
|||
|
will no longer have access to any sites serviced by Media3. I am not
|
|||
|
sure if any of our current customers are Media3 subscribers, but as
|
|||
|
they will no longer be able to access their email and such, we will
|
|||
|
offer any affected customers complete refunds," Milburn said in the
|
|||
|
email.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hayes said Solid Oak has given him no proof that Haselton has done
|
|||
|
anything illegal, so he would not remove Peacefire, and noted that
|
|||
|
among the content on Media3's server is a Mayflower Society Bulletin
|
|||
|
Board and "everything to do with Pilgrims and Plymouth Rock." Hayes
|
|||
|
added that Media3's attorneys have been alerted to the situation, and
|
|||
|
if the ISP is blocked, it will take legal action. Solid Oak does not
|
|||
|
normally inform sites they have been blocked.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Copyright (c) 1993-97 Wired Ventures, Inc. and affiliated companies.
|
|||
|
All rights reserved.
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|
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Subject: Doomsday is only when you decide it to be.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I have been a SysOp for 7 years.. and a member of FidoNet for 6 years.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
When I first joined the network, FidoNet's NodeList wasn't very large
|
|||
|
at all, in fact, it was puny compared to 1995. But the quality of
|
|||
|
messages was far greater and made up for the few nodes. The quality
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 10 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
of FidoNet's messages even now is far higher than that of the
|
|||
|
InterNet, which has a gigantic amount of nodes that kills our count
|
|||
|
by a longshot. Quality far outweighs magnitude.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Through my experience with the BBS world I have found that we have
|
|||
|
always struggled for our hobby. This struggle in many cases has faced
|
|||
|
the shut-down of our systems or networks in one way or another.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
During the years of 1994 through 1996, the number of BBSes grew by
|
|||
|
the thousands. But were ALL of these systems quality BBSes? In many
|
|||
|
cases no. It was until my second year as a SysOp that I learned what
|
|||
|
the true meaning of the word was. During that second year my Seagate
|
|||
|
ST251 MFM Hard Disk died, it literally burnt up the spindle motor as
|
|||
|
a result of a shot power regulator. I lost everything I had made of
|
|||
|
my BBS, which at the time had about 1000+ members and about 30 callers
|
|||
|
per day. All of this work was lost, and I knew there was no way I
|
|||
|
could retrieve it. It quite unfortunately went up in smoke, I came
|
|||
|
home one night and smelled burning epoxy in the air... and immediately
|
|||
|
feared the loss of my Bulletin Board System. After three long weeks
|
|||
|
and about twenty litres or more of Pepsi, I knew that I was a true
|
|||
|
SysOp... I could not give up. I *WANTED* my BBS, I wanted to have
|
|||
|
that feeling that I was offering a free service to the public... I
|
|||
|
wanted to be respected for my efforts. My BBS stayed online until
|
|||
|
December 16th, 1995.. when I could no longer afford the bills to
|
|||
|
maintain my computer and the phone line. I felt like my life had
|
|||
|
ended, because it was and is still all that I have ever had. If it
|
|||
|
weren't for the BBS world, I would not have met my best friends, who
|
|||
|
have brought the best times of my life. I would not have known that my
|
|||
|
strengths lie in computers. Forget the InterNet, anything can have
|
|||
|
Balloon Curtains and Fluffy Bunnies, but when there is slime packaged
|
|||
|
inside, it becomes unattractive very quickly. BBSes retain character,
|
|||
|
and quality.. and offer something the InterNet will never have,
|
|||
|
because of the commercialization and magnitude which the InterNet
|
|||
|
thrives upon; the FidoNet is a warm caring community, which is
|
|||
|
controlled and managed, this is quite clearly not shown on the
|
|||
|
InterNet. I worked for many months and finally paid all of my bills,
|
|||
|
and have put my system online only three weeks ago. "You're crazy!",
|
|||
|
"You won't get your users back!" people would say... But I know that I
|
|||
|
can bring them back, not the same users, but I will get back good
|
|||
|
users. That's all that will be left, and that's all I ever wanted.
|
|||
|
Back in 1995, the BBS world became more strongly oriented towards
|
|||
|
files and such, when it used to be communication and entertainment.
|
|||
|
The InterNet offers these, but they are abused and not managed. The
|
|||
|
BBS world is not shown on TV or flashed in newspapers only because it
|
|||
|
does not bring profit. That's the media for you, but I don't want that
|
|||
|
attention... I want to provide a means of communication which is
|
|||
|
precisely what FidoNet provides and always has provided to its clients
|
|||
|
and its clients users. Three weeks have passed since I put the BBS
|
|||
|
back online, and I already have over thirty users and eight calls a
|
|||
|
day average, which I am quite impressed with at this time.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
After all of the dust has blown off, the goodness of the FidoNet
|
|||
|
community will shine through and continue to be what it always has: An
|
|||
|
Icon to the connected world, a free service which has much higher
|
|||
|
standards than that of any commercial service. Those who remove
|
|||
|
themselves from the FidoNet Nodelist are quitters, I am not a quitter.
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 11 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Let all of those nodes drop like flies, but the nodes which remain
|
|||
|
will bring the great quality they have always provided to the FidoNet
|
|||
|
Echos. And the users from those systems which drop, will call the
|
|||
|
systems which remain. And the BBS world will thrive once again... the
|
|||
|
way it should be.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonet's doomsday is not today, and I will not allow for it to happen
|
|||
|
tomorrow.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Statistics are pointless, a curve of dropping nodes will not remain,
|
|||
|
as the number of users reverting to other systems will increase, the
|
|||
|
with-drawn node addresses will decrease. And there will certainly
|
|||
|
always be a BBS community, as long as there are people like me, and
|
|||
|
hopefully all those who read FidoNews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Carl Hultay - SysOp of Cannibal Bar & Grill BBS
|
|||
|
1:259/546
|
|||
|
egon@idirect.com
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Followup to Pete Snidal's Fidonet/Internet Comparison
|
|||
|
by Dave Aronson, sysop of Air 'n Sun (1:109/120)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> FIDONET Is a system of hobbyist-operated bulletin boards,
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, mostly. To nitpick, there are some professional nodes.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
However, I feel that your point is basically correct and should be
|
|||
|
expanded upon. The important part IMHO is that most Fidonodes are
|
|||
|
one-line DOS-PC dialups, operated from the sysop's home. By contrast,
|
|||
|
an ISP typically has hundreds or thousands of lines, hooked to large
|
|||
|
computers, operated in a "machine room" in commercial space.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> which connect and exchange data
|
|||
|
PS> regularly, usually on a nightly schedule.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Where local calling is cheap, it's very common for high-traffic nodes
|
|||
|
to get an "unlimited local calling" line, and connect to local links
|
|||
|
whenever there is anything to send.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> INTERNET Is a system of server computers, also spanning the
|
|||
|
PS> world,
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Or would that be "spamming the world"? B-(
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> which are virtually connected to one another at all times.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not necessarily. There are many that are only occasionally connected,
|
|||
|
but these do not generally host any of the "real time" services that
|
|||
|
most people think of when they think "Internet", like web pages and
|
|||
|
ftp directories.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> The "Noise/signal ratio" of these echoes is quite low,
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 12 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So let's look into HOW this miracle is achieved. It is in fact IMHO
|
|||
|
one of the most important differences, concerning day-to-day use.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In Internet, almost all newsgroups are unmoderated -- any twit can
|
|||
|
wander in, say whatever he wants (not only off-topic chatter, but
|
|||
|
flames, trolls, ads, etc.), AND he can instantly spew it into every
|
|||
|
newsgroup in creation. The only recourse is public pressure on his
|
|||
|
ISP, who may or may not be willing to do a damn thing. (Usually not,
|
|||
|
so long as he pays his bills and doesn't generate too many complaints
|
|||
|
to ignore.) There are SOME moderated newsgroups, but this is a very
|
|||
|
heavy burden on the moderator, as THEIR type of moderation means that
|
|||
|
the moderator must pre-screen each and every post for approval.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonet echoes, on the other claw, usually (always, in the case of the
|
|||
|
backbone) have a moderator, who is authorized to eject unruly posters,
|
|||
|
and if the sysop refuses, the moderator can have that entire node
|
|||
|
ejected from the echo! However, it rarely comes to that, as the sysop
|
|||
|
has no vested interest in refusing, as he's almost certainly not
|
|||
|
getting any money from the user, nor does the sysop have support staff
|
|||
|
to deal with the complaints for him. Also, it is impossible on most
|
|||
|
Fidonet BBSes to "crosspost", at least in the Internet sense of having
|
|||
|
the whole thread continue to be crossposted to all the newsgroups the
|
|||
|
original was in, barring manual intervention.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> files of particular interest may even be "File
|
|||
|
PS> Requested" from other systems.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...though the sysop will have to pay for the call, and may require
|
|||
|
that the user reimburse the cost.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> Sending of commercial messages in Fidonet is prohibited, and
|
|||
|
PS> "Spamming" - electronic junk-mail - is impossible.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Not impossible at all... just MUCH more difficult, and of course our
|
|||
|
sysops are MUCH faster to DO something about it! B-)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> "Spamming" - the sending of electronic junkmail to your personal
|
|||
|
PS> email box - is seriously frowned upon, and sort of prohibited,
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hunh? There are currently no laws against it anywhere that I know of;
|
|||
|
the closest are some USA laws against junk faxes, but some courts have
|
|||
|
held that it doesn't apply to email. Many ISPs have a clause against
|
|||
|
it in their Terms Of Usage (or whatever they call it), but most are
|
|||
|
very slow to enforce it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> but the fight with those who would capitalize on this resource
|
|||
|
PS> in this way is ongoing.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Amen! Americans, PLEASE lobby your Congresscritters to have the "no
|
|||
|
junk faxes" law extended to email!!! Others, do whatever you can....
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
By the way, I have thought up two slogans that I would like to get
|
|||
|
spread as widely as possible. First, inspired by Woodsy Owl's
|
|||
|
admonition to litterbugs, "Give a damn, don't spam!". Secondly,
|
|||
|
inspired by the reaction of a Vogon to Arthur Dent's struggles, NOT
|
|||
|
the Borg as some may think, "Resistance is UCE-less!". (UCE is an
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 13 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Internet abbreviation for Unsolicited Commercial Email.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> INTERNET Allows access to the "World Wide Web."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Probably the biggest thing that helped the Internet explode in
|
|||
|
popularity with the Great Unwashed.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> FIDONET Costs the user nothing. Free basic access is a
|
|||
|
PS> fundamental given on all Fidonet systems. User support is
|
|||
|
PS> sometimes encouraged, but never demanded.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
True in, I'd guess, 99% of cases, but don't take it for granted that
|
|||
|
Fidonet means free. Also, many nodes offer a basic level of service
|
|||
|
for free, but reserve some goodies for donors. However, these are
|
|||
|
usually things that the sysop must shell out significant money for,
|
|||
|
like extra phone lines, Usenet newsgroups, echoes he must make
|
|||
|
long-distances calls to get, etc., and the fee is usually a tiny
|
|||
|
fraction of a typical ISP's.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> FIDONET Encourages the use of Pre-Windows computers, or
|
|||
|
PS> "dosboxes."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
More like, Fidonet *allows* the use of *ANY* computer, or even a dumb
|
|||
|
terminal, so long as it has a modem, and is efficient enough that it
|
|||
|
can even be a SLOW modem. This is a huge contrast to how, ever since
|
|||
|
the Web exploded, it's very difficult to do much on the Internet
|
|||
|
without a GUI, fast CPU and modem, and tons of disk space and RAM.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS> node and bbs software, [...] all of which run fine in Dosboxes
|
|||
|
PS> such as 286's and even XT's, with small hard drives, or no hard
|
|||
|
PS> drives, and with memory as low as the basic 640K.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...or on a wide variety of NON-DOS boxes, like Macs, Amigas, Atari
|
|||
|
STs, assorted flavors of Unix, etc.! Standards and compatibility....
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PS> INTERNET "No tickee, no launlee" is the motto of the ISP. The
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PS> Internet is a strictly commercial, no-bones money-making
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PS> proposition.
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As far as today's ISPs are concerned, yes. However, do realize that
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the roots are quite different. It was spun off from ARPANET, built by
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the Defense Advanced Projects Research Agency, as a network to supply
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government communications need in times of emergency, being able to
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withstand even a direct nuclear strike on most major nodes. Until the
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price of computers fell fast enough to let the Great Unwashed afford
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the Internet, it was generally the province of those lucky enough to
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work at a connected company or attend a connected university, with the
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institutions usually doing a lot of defense research.
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PS> For the number of the fidonet bbs nearest you (there is likely
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PS> one in your town,) consult your local computer outlet or computer
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PS> paper. For details on hooking up to the internet, consult your
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PS> yellow pages.
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That really says it all. B-(
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NOTICE OF FTSC NOMINATIONS
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==========================
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by Adrian Walker, 1:153/752
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Since 1 December 1996, discussion has been underway in the FTSC_PUBLIC
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echo defining the mission and operating procedures for a revitalized
|
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Fidonet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC).
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These have been formalized in two new documents, FTA-1000 (FTSC
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Charter) and FTA-1001 (FTSC Operations) which have been hatched into
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the FTSC file echo and are also available from:
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File Request - 1:153/752 as FTA-1000.TXT and FTA-1001.TXT
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Internet - http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc.htm
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With the finalization of these documents, nominations are now being
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accepted for FTSC Standing Members. The following extract from
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FTA-1001 describes the nomination and voting process:
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FTSC members are appointed for a two year renewable term. [50 %
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of appointments on initial formation of the FTSC shall be for a 3
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year renewable term, to ensure continuity of the Committee on
|
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expiry of the terms.]
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To be selected as a FTSC member, an individual must be a Fidonet
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node, and should be actively involved in Fidonet. Examples
|
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include having put out a Fidonet-related product or having
|
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updated a product in the preceding two years, or having
|
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experience as a Coordinator, Echomail Coordinator or mail or file
|
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|
Hub.
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Standing members may be nominated Fidonet-wide by all of the
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following methods:
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1. any RC or REC
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2. a nominating committee established for the purpose by the
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FTSC
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3. a nominating committee established for the purpose by the
|
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ZCC
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A nominating committee may not consist of any current member or
|
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officer of the FTSC.
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Standing members are appointed on the basis of a vote by all RCs
|
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and RECs who are nodelisted as holding those positions at the
|
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time the nominations are published. A successful candidate must
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receive approval by a majority of votes.
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Publication of the nomination and the voting procedure, and
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posting of RC and REC votes, shall take place openly in the
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FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 15 24 Mar 1997
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FTSC_PUBLIC echo, and voting shall close three weeks after
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publication of the vote.
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[Majority as defined in FTA-1001:
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more than fifty percent of all votes cast.
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===============
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ACTION REQUIRED
|
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===============
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Since there is no nominating committee at this stage, those persons
|
|||
|
interested in becoming a Standing Member of the FTSC should state
|
|||
|
their interest to any currently-serving RC or REC and request that the
|
|||
|
RC or REC nominate them either by message in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, or
|
|||
|
by netmail to Bruce Bodger (1:170/400) or Adrian Walker (153/752), who
|
|||
|
are administering the initial committee setup.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
The closing date for such applications to be an active Standing Member
|
|||
|
of the FTSC will be Friday 18 April 1997. At that time a list of all
|
|||
|
applicants having been properly nominated will be published, and the
|
|||
|
voting process will then be followed as defined above.
|
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|
---OOO000OOO---
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|
Beware the Ides of March..Hog Wash!!!!
|
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|
by Clay Tannacore 1:372/136
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I have just completed reading the article written by a young man
|
|||
|
named Ken Reaverson. Now, I don't know if this is just one of the
|
|||
|
editor's (Chris Baker) spurious names, but I certainly hope so.
|
|||
|
Because if this isn't, we have yet another case of FidoNet Brain-
|
|||
|
washing, here. Allow me to elaborate somewhat on this point. The
|
|||
|
young man says he has been *around* FidoNet for some time, but has
|
|||
|
only recently became a Fido SysOp, sometime around the first of this
|
|||
|
year. To this point everything appears about right. However, what
|
|||
|
appears rather strange to me is his everlasting devotedness to an
|
|||
|
association he is only vaguely familiar with. A short three months as
|
|||
|
a FidoNet SysOp, and he is all ready to sacrifice his first born to
|
|||
|
King Fido. He has already forgiven those nasty old SysOps who wanted
|
|||
|
him to pay for access to their systems. Not only that, but this young
|
|||
|
man is ready to join the Pay-For-Access crowd who have bestowed upon
|
|||
|
FidoNet the title as the FREE (for a fee) HOBBYIST (semi-commercial)
|
|||
|
INFORMATION (flame thrower) SERVICE. He states that "These days, I
|
|||
|
like Fido", well I do to, it's just some of the deceitful folks within
|
|||
|
the Fido family that cause me to toss my cookies. Another really
|
|||
|
*great* thing this young man finds with the FidoNet community is the
|
|||
|
*information and help* he has received, and is now "able to provide my
|
|||
|
users with access to Internet email or USENET groups". Fine! Just
|
|||
|
what FidoNet needs, another access path to the Internet. Another way
|
|||
|
to draw on the user base of FidoNet. Another brain fart, thought up
|
|||
|
by people who don't give a damn what happens to this association of
|
|||
|
ours. Just when the hell are FidoNet SysOps going to start supporting
|
|||
|
FidoNet, again? I said this before and may as well repeat it here,
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 16 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
because no one pays any attention to an old fart like myself, but it
|
|||
|
WAS FidoNet that paved the way for the new nouveau riche we now
|
|||
|
lovingly (?) call The Internet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It is not my intention to make an example of this young man (Ken),
|
|||
|
but only to show what has happened in the (Fido) community in the last
|
|||
|
few years. In plain English, the damn organization has fallen apart.
|
|||
|
We haven't got an IC, and as far as an election goes, you may as well
|
|||
|
be spitting in the wind. There are just to many self serving dolts
|
|||
|
with their own agendas in positions within the association to hold out
|
|||
|
much hope for a FidoNet rebirth. To many power insatiate people in
|
|||
|
the organization to ever have a FidoNet that once was an entity with
|
|||
|
pride and purpose. To many egotistical SOB's who can't stand to see
|
|||
|
the organization get bigger than their own subliminal selves. Just
|
|||
|
to many blackguards to ever revive FidoNet, at least not to the
|
|||
|
decorated position it once held amongst computer users.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Let us once again take a close look at this dilapidated piece of
|
|||
|
paper, we so insipidly call a policy document. This ridiculous clump
|
|||
|
of words with the title of POLICY 4! Talk about a waste of writing.
|
|||
|
This asinine document that over the years has been the cornerstone of
|
|||
|
FidoNet, in that it is suppose to guide various IC's, ZC's, RC's, and
|
|||
|
NC's in the operation of their positions, and the function intended
|
|||
|
for FidoNet itself. Needless to say, much is lacking in this useless
|
|||
|
assemblage of gibberish we are suppose to consider a *bible* for the
|
|||
|
organization. Much is lacking, but one of the basics considerations
|
|||
|
that is missing is intelligence. I hate to admit to it, but I was
|
|||
|
around when this diseased document was originally written and voted
|
|||
|
upon. I didn't like it then, and I sure as hell can't stand the idea
|
|||
|
of it, today. It is time a new (and improved) POLICY document were
|
|||
|
written. A team of Fido people have to be assembled to formulate a
|
|||
|
coherent policy document. Whether they are brought together in one
|
|||
|
area as a group, or via the EchoMail process, there has to be action
|
|||
|
taken on this new policy document, if FidoNet is to survive. A set
|
|||
|
of guidelines, or rules, or even procedures must be written with the
|
|||
|
goal of standardizing and regulating the day to day operation of Fido
|
|||
|
Net, and the thousands of nodes down the line, while there are still
|
|||
|
enough nodes to even bother.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Okay people! A new song and dance. I know you're sick of the
|
|||
|
same old doom and gloom. Lets touch upon the Regional Coordinator
|
|||
|
position, and what they are doing, and what they should be doing. On
|
|||
|
a whole the RC's in *most* Nets are doing a fine job considering the
|
|||
|
lack of any real guidelines they have to work with. Of course I'm
|
|||
|
speaking of that piece of wreckage christened POLICY 4. Again the
|
|||
|
document with less testosterone than a flaccid Oscar Mayer Wiener.
|
|||
|
The lack of procedural material within that spent instrument never
|
|||
|
ceases to amaze me, and keeps me forever wondering just how any
|
|||
|
Regional Coordinator can administer the nodes they are responsible
|
|||
|
for. Consequently, we have a number of destructive individuals at
|
|||
|
the Network Coordinator level who whether or not they mean it, are
|
|||
|
contributing to the demise of FidoNet. The RC's are (and damn sure
|
|||
|
should be) responsible for each NC within their region. The RC *HAS*
|
|||
|
to involve himself (or herself) in the individual Nets under his
|
|||
|
control, and *NOT* by placing all his apples in one bushel. The RC
|
|||
|
is going to have to listen to those within that Net, that find his
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 17 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
choice of NC disagreeable and inappropriate. RC's have to understand
|
|||
|
that the SysOp's under the command of his choice of NC, feel anxious
|
|||
|
about making a complaint to him, for fear of retaliation. The RC's
|
|||
|
(whether or not they agree with this) are going to have to set up a
|
|||
|
system, to allow not only the SysOp's who fall within their
|
|||
|
jurisdiction, but individuals who use (called users, in case you've
|
|||
|
forgotten) the numerous Nets within their regions. Like it or not,
|
|||
|
these RC's are going to have to become diplomats, and deal with the
|
|||
|
problems that are semi-rampart within FidoNet, today. Encouragement
|
|||
|
of new users, new systems (SysOp's) and users who do not feel totally
|
|||
|
alienated because of the *I'm better than you* attitudes that many
|
|||
|
SysOp's and Network Coordinators demonstrate towards them. The new
|
|||
|
or seasoned user who has been in some way *wronged* by a decision or
|
|||
|
judgment of some moderator or NC, has to be able to see a way to
|
|||
|
attain justice (even if no REAL wrong was performed) in what he/she
|
|||
|
perceives as an unjust system. Here is an example of what could
|
|||
|
happened (and has) happened, when the *GOOD OL' BOY* mentality is put
|
|||
|
in place. A user said something that the moderator of a certain
|
|||
|
local Echo didn't feel was in the proper spirit of *his* Echo. The
|
|||
|
Moderator, in an open message to the user, explained his *rules* for
|
|||
|
access to that particular Echo. The Moderator felt it was absolutely
|
|||
|
beyond the limits (in HIS Echo) for the user to denounce the way that
|
|||
|
messages were being written. He used the word damn in one of his
|
|||
|
posts, and out of the Echo he went. The user feeling this was not a
|
|||
|
valid reason to be excommunicated requested of the moderator that he
|
|||
|
be given another chance. The moderator said "no, and that's final."
|
|||
|
The user wanted to appeal the moderators decision as per the normal
|
|||
|
course of such petitions. He went to the NC, who informed him that
|
|||
|
if the moderator had banned him from that Echo (or any other) he (the
|
|||
|
NC) would support the moderator. Now, this scenario sounds familiar
|
|||
|
to many of you, and it also sounds proper. However, this user was
|
|||
|
extraordinarily upset about his banishment and requested help from
|
|||
|
another SysOp in the Net. What this SysOp learned was that the user
|
|||
|
had been denied the right of appeal, due to the fact that the
|
|||
|
moderator was *not* a FidoNet SysOp, and thus, the user was denied
|
|||
|
his right to appeal, by the fact the one level of the appeal process
|
|||
|
was not there You know, the *appeal* process that FidoNet members
|
|||
|
are supposed to have (?).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Here is a personal exemplification of what happens when the NC of
|
|||
|
a Net, takes a disliking to one of his SysOp's, and allows his
|
|||
|
(supposedly) impartial attitude to become predominating. I have been
|
|||
|
with FidoNet since 1985 (December 4, to be exact) and in all that
|
|||
|
time my node number has been 1:372/4. In 1991, due to numerous
|
|||
|
medical (thank you Uncle Ho & Co.) problems, and 992 days in the
|
|||
|
hospital I had to leave the local net, thus giving up my node number.
|
|||
|
When I returned to the (same) local net (and FidoNet) I requested my
|
|||
|
old node number back, as no one had been assigned that number. Not
|
|||
|
only did I not get that number, but I was enlightened to the fact
|
|||
|
that my request for a *private* node was disapproved. Of Course, due
|
|||
|
to FidoNet's antipathy for the .Pvt node flag. I really did
|
|||
|
understand that, but in view of the need for the private flag, and
|
|||
|
what it was requested for, I asked the NC to please reconsider. He
|
|||
|
didn't, but in all fairness to him, he did pass on my request to the
|
|||
|
Regional Coordinator. The RC after reading the reasons why the
|
|||
|
private flag was required, nullified the NC's decision, and allowed me
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 18 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a node number (1:372/136) to operate Vet_Net_South. Anyway, I think
|
|||
|
this action perhaps compiled with other idiosyncrasy has caused a rift
|
|||
|
between the NC and myself, and this is why, when I again requested
|
|||
|
that I be assigned my old node number (1:372/4) if for no other
|
|||
|
reason than old time sakes, I was informed that it would be a
|
|||
|
QUOTE: "make-work" thing and "I'm not inclined to do it." UNQUOTE.
|
|||
|
This type of attitude is not in the best interest of an already
|
|||
|
unhealthy FidoNet, and it is up to the RC's to terminate these kinds
|
|||
|
of practices. The antecedent is not a criticism of the NC I have
|
|||
|
mentioned, but is being utilized as an example of what sort of
|
|||
|
predilection that has crept into the ranks of FidoNet. These sort of
|
|||
|
incidences can do nothing for FidoNet, but enhance its demise.
|
|||
|
Furthermore, occurrences similar to the above, do nothing but harm
|
|||
|
to the individuals involved, thus doing nothing for the Net in which
|
|||
|
the misdeeds took place. I have been around long enough to not allow
|
|||
|
this method of *muscle flexing* to bother me. However, what of the
|
|||
|
new SysOp in a net? Will he/she be as constrained as I am? No, I
|
|||
|
think in all reality not. Once the new SysOp is faced with a
|
|||
|
situation similar to the above, and is informed by other SysOps in
|
|||
|
that Net, that the Regional Coordinator almost always sides with the
|
|||
|
NC in matters of this kind, he begins to feel the old FidoNet
|
|||
|
alienation, and either sits back and contemplates his/her revenge, or
|
|||
|
simply does the only other thing open to him/her. He/She drops out
|
|||
|
of the Net, opens up an account on the Internet, and FidoNet pays the
|
|||
|
price by another divestiture of personnel.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Enough of this, right? You have reached that point in reading
|
|||
|
where you have decided that a formal complaint for being excessively
|
|||
|
annoying is in order. Well, hell, go ahead, I need the rest, anyway.
|
|||
|
Just be aware of the fact the Chris Baker (editor of FIDONEWS) asked
|
|||
|
me for another article (as I promised) in public. What was that a
|
|||
|
great man once said? Oh, yea, I remember, "Forgive him Father for
|
|||
|
he knows not what he does." I probably misquoted Him somewhat, but
|
|||
|
what else would you expect from a guy who just pooped in his own mess
|
|||
|
kit, by partially trashing his NC. Oh hell, what could happen? No
|
|||
|
node number? So what! I can always put my head up my anus blow hot
|
|||
|
air, count some money, and everyone will think I'm Bill Gates. Apply
|
|||
|
for a new node number under the Gates acclaim, and sit back and laugh.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just a footnote for all of you out there who are thinking about a
|
|||
|
way to assassinate me, via NetMail. My phone number is unpublished,
|
|||
|
my mailbox (snail mail type) has an anti explosive device built in.
|
|||
|
I have no E-Mail address on the Internet (gag), and all my daughters
|
|||
|
are grown up, gone away (with one exception) and impregnable. My
|
|||
|
dog isn't gay, and the parrot is a wino, and doesn't give a poop what
|
|||
|
you do to him or me. My wife is meaner than my old First Sergeant,
|
|||
|
and would probably kick your booty before you got to me. Anyway, the
|
|||
|
Veterans Administration has top priority when it comes to wasting me.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I have to say this before I leave you fellow SysOps, RC's, NC's.
|
|||
|
If I have offended anyone, in anyway. If the language I used was
|
|||
|
aberrant to any person. If what I said was a blow to your self
|
|||
|
esteem, and if after reading all that I wrote, you feel downhearted
|
|||
|
I say this from the bottom of my heart:
|
|||
|
"I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!"......[smile]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 19 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 20 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
REVIEWS
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Review of TransNet - A new Fidonet/Internet gateway
|
|||
|
by Marc S. Ressl, ressl@interactive.com.ar
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Some months ago, while looking for a Fido/Internet gateway for our
|
|||
|
private network DLD from Argentina, I realized that I couldn't find
|
|||
|
any that suited our needs. What I was looking for should only require
|
|||
|
a single POP3 email account, and, by the way, be able to import and
|
|||
|
export echogroups as mailing lists.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So, after some daydreaming :) I started working, and this is what came
|
|||
|
out: the TransNet gateway.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The program runs under MS-DOS, and has two main functions: It links
|
|||
|
net and echomail to email and mailing lists, and manages mailing
|
|||
|
lists.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And, indeed, it uses only ONE POP3 email account. Now you'll ask
|
|||
|
yourself how it resends emails to Fido users? It uses a trick with the
|
|||
|
subject line: email senders specify there a keyword, which can be a
|
|||
|
Fido address, a mailing-list, or any of these special keywords: SYSOP,
|
|||
|
HELP, or MAILMAN (to access the mailing list manager). Real subjects
|
|||
|
go after the keyword.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This system might look somewhat weird, but after testing it for the
|
|||
|
whole summer it proved to work, and didn't cause big trouble to users.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There is also template support in TransNet, so you can put some help
|
|||
|
at the beginning of each exported/imported messy. And to make it even
|
|||
|
easier, keywords may be aliased, so people can put in the subject
|
|||
|
"Peter" instead of the cryptic "1:234/567.89".
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Fidonet part works like most gateways.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The program also features a security system, so you can ban annoying
|
|||
|
users, or deny access to groups.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It also resends error receipts from the Internet correctly.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Regarding connection to the Internet, TransNet comes with two Internet
|
|||
|
mail add-ons, one for MS-DOS, and the other for Windows 95. There is
|
|||
|
also another add-on, for those who prefer things in Spanish.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Last but not least, TransNet needs a FrontDoor-style mailer, support
|
|||
|
for Binkley/Xenia will be added soon.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TransNet is shareware, and is freely distributable. For more
|
|||
|
information, visit my program's page at:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2382
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And if you wish to contact me:
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 21 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Marc S. Ressl
|
|||
|
ressl@interactive.com.ar
|
|||
|
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1914
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Marc S. Ressl
|
|||
|
Buenos Aires: ressl@geocities.com
|
|||
|
Rosario: ressl@interactive.com.ar http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1914
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
|||
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|
|||
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=================================================================
|
|||
|
GETTING TECHNICAL
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[This is part of the continuing series of FidoNet Technical Standards
|
|||
|
Committee documents demonstrating FidoNet history. These docs are
|
|||
|
reformatted to the 70 columns for FidoNews where required.] Ed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Document: FSC-0052
|
|||
|
Version: 001
|
|||
|
Date: 23-Sep-90
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ZPTH
|
|||
|
----
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A proposal for making the PATH zone aware
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Gerard van der Land
|
|||
|
FidoNet 2:283/1.5
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Status of this document:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This FSC suggests a proposed protocol for the FidoNet(r)
|
|||
|
community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
|
|||
|
improvements. Distribution of this document is unlimited.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido and FidoNet are registered marks of Tom Jennings and Fido
|
|||
|
Software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The PATH line can be a more accurate source of information
|
|||
|
than the SEEN-BY line to determine if a message is a
|
|||
|
duplicate. TosScan with Circular PATH Protection (CPP) enabled
|
|||
|
will consider messages that already have your address in them
|
|||
|
as duplicates. This works fine in conferences that are
|
|||
|
distributed within one zone, but in conferences spread
|
|||
|
across zones it can cause problems.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Unlike SEEN-BY lines, PATH lines are not stripped at the
|
|||
|
zone gate, because they have a very important purpose: to
|
|||
|
be able to determine the used echomail topology and
|
|||
|
troubleshooting, like finding the cause of duplicate messages.
|
|||
|
Unfortunately this also means that if a message is entered at
|
|||
|
1:283/1 and my boss would be running TosScan with CPP enabled,
|
|||
|
the message would be considered as a duplicate, because
|
|||
|
"283/1" is already in the PATH lines.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If such messages are not deleted but stored in a
|
|||
|
duplicate directory, you will of course notice this happen and
|
|||
|
disable CPP, but you can't know if messages never reach your
|
|||
|
system because they were deleted for the same reason by another
|
|||
|
node that had CPP enabled.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That's why I have the following proposal. If a message
|
|||
|
travels from one zone to another, the zone gateway should move
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 23 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
all information in the current PATH lines to kludge lines with
|
|||
|
the following format:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
^aZPTH: <origin zone>:<old path info>
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The receiving system in the destination zone creates a new
|
|||
|
PATH with his address in it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There is no need to support or allow 4D addresses in the
|
|||
|
ZPTH, since it is only supplements the existing PATH lines.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Simple sample
|
|||
|
-------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A message originating at 1:154/40 arrives at 1:260/340...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
^aPATH: 154/40 970 9 157/200 265/7 13/13 260/340
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...and is sent to Europe. This is how I would see it:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
^aZPTH: 1:154/40 970 9 157/200 265/7 13/13 260/340
|
|||
|
^aPATH: 310/11 507/1 512/0 280/0 283/1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Now suppose that 283/1 would gate it to zone 3, it would
|
|||
|
look like this when it gets there:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
^aZPTH: 1:154/40 970 9 157/200 265/7 13/13 260/340
|
|||
|
^aZPTH: 2:310/11 507/1 512/0 280/0 283/1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The receiving node in zone 3 now creates a new PATH line
|
|||
|
with his address in it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Advantages
|
|||
|
----------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1) It enables Circular PATH Protection (CPP) on conferences
|
|||
|
that travel across zones without the risk of messages
|
|||
|
that are erroneous considered as duplicates and deleted.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2) A zone gate can optionally parse the ZPTH lines to see
|
|||
|
if his zone or the destination zone has already seen the
|
|||
|
message (CZP, Circular ZPATH Protection), which means a
|
|||
|
duplicate message will never go to another zone. Of course
|
|||
|
this could only be used if it sure that messages shouldn't
|
|||
|
re-enter a zone.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3) You get a much better view on the used echomail
|
|||
|
topology, sometimes it is very hard to see where a message
|
|||
|
goes from one zone to another.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4) It will not screw up with any echomail processor as long as
|
|||
|
they ignore unknown kludges. Only nodes gating echomail from
|
|||
|
one zone to another would need to have a processor that
|
|||
|
supports the ZPTH kludge.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
5) It will hardly increase the size of compressed mail
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 24 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
archives.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Document: FSC-0053
|
|||
|
Version: 002
|
|||
|
Date: 08-Dec-92
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Specifications for the ^aFLAGS field
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Joaquim H. Homrighausen
|
|||
|
2:270/17@fidonet or joho@ae.lu
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
December 8, 1992
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Status of this document:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This FSC suggests a proposed protocol for the FidoNet(r)
|
|||
|
community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
|
|||
|
improvements. Distribution of this document is unlimited.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido and FidoNet are registered marks of Tom Jennings and Fido
|
|||
|
Software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Purpose
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To explain and document the existing usage of the ^aFLAGS field
|
|||
|
used by many software packages, including FrontDoor, TosScan, and
|
|||
|
D'Bridge. And to inform software authors of its proper usage.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Prologue
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
One of the problems with the FTS-1 (stored) message format is its
|
|||
|
limitations in regards to message attributes. Several bits are
|
|||
|
used (reserved) by SEAdog, another by several packers and editors
|
|||
|
- even though most mailer authors don't support them, they
|
|||
|
remain. One reason would be backward compatibility with older
|
|||
|
software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Unfortunately, this presents a problem for software authors that
|
|||
|
would like to pass extended message attributes for use and
|
|||
|
handling by other software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Some software packages have been using an alternate method called
|
|||
|
"FLAGS" which is 7-bit ASCII placed behind <SOH>FLAGS somewhere
|
|||
|
near the beginning of a message. The various flags will now be
|
|||
|
described.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flags
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The FLAGS string should be placed somewhere near the beginning of
|
|||
|
the message text, and is preceeded by a <SOH> (^a) character.
|
|||
|
There is no need to support all or any of the below mentioned
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 25 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
flags.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If flags are stripped when a message passes through a system, all
|
|||
|
relevant and correct FTS-1 status bits should be updated to
|
|||
|
indicate the original contents of the FLAGS field.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag Brief Long description
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
PVT Private Indicates that the message may only be
|
|||
|
read by its addressee and author.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HLD Hold Message should be held for pickup by its
|
|||
|
destination system.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
CRA Crash High-priority mail.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
K/S Kill/Sent Remove message after it has been
|
|||
|
success-fully sent.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SNT Sent Message has been successfully sent (used
|
|||
|
for message without Kill/Sent status).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
RCV Received Message has been read by its addressee.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A/S Archive/Sent Place message in "sent mail" archival
|
|||
|
system after it has been successfully
|
|||
|
sent.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DIR Direct Message must be sent directly to its
|
|||
|
destination and may not be routed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ZON Zonegate Send message through zonegate (if
|
|||
|
possible).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HUB Hub/Host-route Host- or Hub-route message (as
|
|||
|
appropriate).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIL File attach Message has one or more files attached
|
|||
|
to it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FRQ File request Message has one or more file requests in
|
|||
|
subject field.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag Brief Long description
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
IMM Immediate NOW!-priority mail. Send at first
|
|||
|
opportunity, override any transmission
|
|||
|
restrictions enforced by events, costs,
|
|||
|
or qualification.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
XMA Xmail Message has alternate form of compressed
|
|||
|
mail attached.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
KFS Kill file Remove attached file(s) after they have
|
|||
|
been successfully sent. Only valid for
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 26 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
file attach message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TFS Truncate file Truncate attached file(s) to zero length
|
|||
|
after they have been successfully sent.
|
|||
|
Only valid for file attach message.
|
|||
|
Primarily used by Conference Mail
|
|||
|
processors.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
LOK Lock Prevent message from being processed.
|
|||
|
This includes sending, deleting,
|
|||
|
purging, and editing.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
RRQ Receipt REQ When the mailer/packer at the message's
|
|||
|
final destination unpacks the message,
|
|||
|
it's asked to generate a receipt to the
|
|||
|
author of the message that indicates
|
|||
|
that the message arrived at its final
|
|||
|
destination.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
CFM Confirm REQ When message is read by its addressee, a
|
|||
|
Confirmation Receipt should be generated
|
|||
|
to the author of the message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
HIR HiRes FAX: Hi-Resolution image.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
COV CoverLetter FAX: Cover sheet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SIG Signature FAX: Signature.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
LET LetterHead FAX: LetterHead.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| FAX Fax image The filename specified in the message's
|
|||
|
| subject field contains a fax document
|
|||
|
| that should be viewed using software
|
|||
|
| capable of doing so.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Flag Brief Long description
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
| FPU Force pickup Treated as a message with an IMM flag.
|
|||
|
| This instructs the mailer to keep
|
|||
|
| calling the destination system, if the
|
|||
|
| connection is aborted for some reason,
|
|||
|
| until a valid "End of files" signal is
|
|||
|
| received (i.e. no more files remain to
|
|||
|
| pick up).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Notes
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Xmail is related to the ARCmail 0.60 standard as adopted by the
|
|||
|
FTSC. The exception is that any type of compression method may
|
|||
|
be used and the naming convention isn't necessarily limited to
|
|||
|
that of the ARCmail 0.60 standard.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Epilogue
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Feedback would be appreciated and can be sent to me at the
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 27 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
addresses specified on the title page. Please send feedback via
|
|||
|
netmail.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--- end of file "fsc-0053.001" ---
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 28 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
COORDINATORS CORNER
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 080
|
|||
|
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
|
|||
|
ZC/2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
|Zone|Nl-052|Nodelist-059|Nodelist-066|Nodelist-073|Nodelist-080|%%|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 1 | 9527| 9405 -122 | 9405 0 | 9107 -298 | 9088 -19 |33|
|
|||
|
| 2 | 16051|16116 65 |16083 -33 |15996 -87 |15956 -40 |58|
|
|||
|
| 3 | 812| 807 -5 | 800 -7 | 800 0 | 800 0 | 3|
|
|||
|
| 4 | 541| 541 0 | 545 4 | 547 2 | 548 1 | 2|
|
|||
|
| 5 | 87| 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 0|
|
|||
|
| 6 | 1071| 1088 17 | 1088 0 | 1088 0 | 1088 0 | 4|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 28089|28044 -45 |28008 -36 |27625 -383 |27567 -58 |
|
|||
|
+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 29 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
WE GET EMAIL
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
|
|||
|
By Christopher Baker on Tue Mar 18 00:50:20 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: Bruce Bodger @ 1:170/400
|
|||
|
To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
|
|||
|
Date: 16 Mar 97 15:09:42
|
|||
|
Subj: .
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Here's another one for submission, Chris. It (almost) negates the
|
|||
|
previous one. I don't think it would hurt a bit if they both were to
|
|||
|
run in the same issue.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thanks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
On: Sun 16 Mar 97 11:52a
|
|||
|
By: Bruce Bodger
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Re: ZEC / RC Election
|
|||
|
St: Local Sent
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
From the ZEC echo:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Last week I cross posted a message here (and in many other places)
|
|||
|
which I had originally written to the RECs of Zone 1. The message
|
|||
|
instructed them to:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"... conduct a survey of their respective Regions to determine if
|
|||
|
they, the Regions, would prefer either another (ZEC) election being
|
|||
|
conducted or an affirmation and acceptance of my willingness to serve
|
|||
|
another term (as ZEC)."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I asked them to come back to me with one of the following 2
|
|||
|
statements;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
My Region would like an election to be conducted =or= My Region would
|
|||
|
like you to stay on for another term.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I set the earliest date for replies to Mar. 24 and required that they
|
|||
|
survey their Regions.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Shortly before I wrote the above message I had been nominated to run
|
|||
|
for the postion of Region Coordinator of Region 19. I accepted the
|
|||
|
nomination. Knowing my own schedule committments I felt that I could
|
|||
|
handle both positions without allowing them to interfere with each
|
|||
|
other. However, there is something that I failed to consider and that
|
|||
|
is that I owe my Region more than just a part time committment as
|
|||
|
their Region Coordinator.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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I have been a member of Region 19 for about 9 years. The Region has
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been good to me, supporting me in all of my campaign bids including 2
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terms as their REC, through the past ZEC election, as well as the
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current REC polling process.
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Region 19 is about to lose on of the best Region Coordinators that it
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has ever had, James Ray. Jamey (:-)) has served 2 outstanding terms
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as R19C but has decided to allow his family to get to know him for a
|
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while :-) Had it not been for James' decision to "retire", I would
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never have accepted the nomination for R19C.
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In order to afford my Region the attention it deserves, I have decided
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to cancel what's come to be known as the "vote of confidence" and will
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begin organizing an election for the postion of Zone 1 EchoMail
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Coordinator. I will not be one of the candidates.
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If the Region allows me the honor of serving as its Coordinator I will
|
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do my best to follow in James Ray's footsteps. We have worked very
|
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well together through the years and he has set an excellent example
|
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for his successor.
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|
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AllTheBest,
|
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Bruce
|
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|
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Via 1:170/400@fidonet @19970316.211049.UTC O/T-Track+ 2.65.b0307
|
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|
|||
|
-30-
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NET HUMOR
|
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=================================================================
|
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|
|||
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From: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
|
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To: "Baker, Christopher" <cbaker84@digital.net (Christopher Baker)>,
|
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 08:12:05 -0600
|
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Reply-To: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
|
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Subject: Fwd: Microsoft spam: Fwd: A joke
|
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|
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==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================
|
|||
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From: FA2930E
|
|||
|
To: RedSilk103
|
|||
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|
|||
|
How things would be different if Microsoft Headquarters was in
|
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Alabama...
|
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|
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1. Their #1 product would be "Microsoft Winders".
|
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2. Instead of an hourglass icon you'd get an empty beer bottle.
|
|||
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3. Occasionally you'd bring up a window that was covered with a
|
|||
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Hefty bag and some duct tape.
|
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4. Dialog boxes would give you the choice of "Ahh-right", "Naw",
|
|||
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or "Git" instead of "Yes", "No", or "Cancel"
|
|||
|
5. Instead of "Ta-Da!", the opening sound would be Dueling
|
|||
|
Banjos
|
|||
|
6. The "Recycle Bin" in Winders '95 would be an outhouse
|
|||
|
7. Whenever you pulled up the Sound Player you'd hear a
|
|||
|
digitized drunk redneck yelling "Freebird!"
|
|||
|
8. Instead of "Start Me Up", the Winders '95 theme song would be
|
|||
|
"Achey-Breaky Heart"
|
|||
|
9. PowerPoint would be named "ParPawnt"
|
|||
|
10. Microsoft's programming tools would be "Vishul Basic" and
|
|||
|
"Vishul C++"
|
|||
|
11. Winders 95 logo would incorporate the Confederate Flag
|
|||
|
12. Instead of "VP", Microsoft big shots would be called "Cuz"
|
|||
|
13. Hardware could be repaired using parts from an old Trans Am
|
|||
|
14. Four words: Daisy Duke Screen Saver
|
|||
|
15. "Well, the first thing you know old Bill's a billionaire...."
|
|||
|
16. Flight Simulator replaced by Tractor-Pull Simulator
|
|||
|
17. Microsoft CEO: Billy-Bob (a.k.a "Bubba") Gates
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================
|
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|
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=================================================================
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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
|
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=================================================================
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
by Nigel Allen (1:250/438) ndallen@interlog.com
|
|||
|
Free Listings in the Encyclopedia of Associations
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
People who start new non-profit associations (including othernets,
|
|||
|
lobbying groups and associations having nothing to do with BBSes)
|
|||
|
should get their group listed, free of charge, in the Encyclopedia of
|
|||
|
Associations, so that prospective members, journalists and researchers
|
|||
|
can get in touch with them.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Groups based in the U.S. should write to the following address and ask
|
|||
|
to be listed:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Editor
|
|||
|
Encyclopedia of Associations
|
|||
|
Gale Research Inc.
|
|||
|
645 Griswold Street, Suite 835
|
|||
|
Detroit, MI 48226-4094
|
|||
|
Telephone (313) 961-2242
|
|||
|
Fax (313) 961-6815
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Groups based outside the United States should instead get listed in
|
|||
|
International Organizations, a directory published by the same
|
|||
|
company. Its address is:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Editor
|
|||
|
International Organizations
|
|||
|
Gale Research Inc.
|
|||
|
645 Griswold Street, Suite 835
|
|||
|
Detroit, MI 48226-4094
|
|||
|
U.S.A.
|
|||
|
Telephone +1 313 961-2242
|
|||
|
Fax +1 313 961-6815
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As well, groups based outside the United States may also want to get
|
|||
|
listed in single-country association directories published in their
|
|||
|
own country, such as the Directory of Associations in Canada. Any
|
|||
|
librarian should be able to tell you how to get in touch with your
|
|||
|
country's national association directory, if one exists.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Most large libraries have a copy of the Encyclopedia of Associations
|
|||
|
in hard copy or CD-ROM, but it is probably too expensive for someone
|
|||
|
to buy for home use.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
See also my Web page, http://www.interlog.com/~ndallen/
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
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|
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|
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|
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=================================================================
|
|||
|
NOTICES
|
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|
=================================================================
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Future History
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
17 May 1997
|
|||
|
Independence Day, Norway.
|
|||
|
|
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|
6 Jun 1997
|
|||
|
National Commemoration Day, Sweden.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
11 Jun 1997
|
|||
|
Independence Day, Russia.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
Canada Day - Happy Birthday Canada.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
9 Jul 1997
|
|||
|
Independence Day, Argentina.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
13 Oct 1997
|
|||
|
Thanksgiving Day, Canada.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 Dec 1997
|
|||
|
World AIDS Day.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
10 Dec 1997
|
|||
|
Nobel Day, Sweden.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
12 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
HAL 9000 is one year old today.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
22 May 1998
|
|||
|
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 Dec 1998
|
|||
|
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
31 Dec 1999
|
|||
|
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 Jan 2000
|
|||
|
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
15 Sep 2000
|
|||
|
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1 Jan 2001
|
|||
|
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
|||
|
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 34 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Latest Greatest Software Versions
|
|||
|
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Awk! I didn't realize how far behind I've gotten. Events in my
|
|||
|
personal life have conspired to keep me away from the keyboard
|
|||
|
during my recreational time. Heck, I'm late for a meeting right
|
|||
|
this very second.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phased out this week: "Amiga" and "Atari ST/TT" Sections.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OS Platform :
|
|||
|
Software package name :
|
|||
|
Version :
|
|||
|
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
|
|||
|
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
|
|||
|
Author / Support staff contact name :
|
|||
|
Author / Support staff contact node :
|
|||
|
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
MS-DOS:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
|
|||
|
ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
|
|||
|
Announcer 1.1 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
|
|||
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
CheckPnt 1.0 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
|
|||
|
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
|
|||
|
FastEcho/16 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE16
|
|||
|
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
|
|||
|
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
|
|||
|
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
|
|||
|
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
|
Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 35 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
InfoMail 1.11 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
|
|||
|
InfoMail/386 1.20 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
|
|||
|
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
|
|||
|
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
|
|||
|
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
|
|||
|
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
|
|||
|
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
|
|||
|
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
|
|||
|
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
|
|||
|
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
|
|||
|
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
|
|||
|
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
|
|||
|
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
|
|||
|
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
|
|||
|
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
|
|||
|
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
|
|||
|
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
|
|||
|
Opus CBCS 1.73a B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
|
|||
|
O/T-Track 2.63a O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
|
|||
|
PcMerge 2.7 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
|
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
|
|||
|
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
|
|||
|
RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
|
|||
|
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
|
|||
|
Silver Xpress
|
|||
|
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
|
|||
|
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
|
|||
|
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
|
|||
|
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
|
|||
|
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
|
|||
|
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
|
|||
|
Terminate 4.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
|
|||
|
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
|
|||
|
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
|
|||
|
WaterGate 0.92 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
|
|||
|
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
|
|||
|
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
|
|||
|
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
|
|||
|
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OS/2:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
|
|||
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
|
|||
|
FleetStreet 1.19 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 36 24 Mar 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
|
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
|
|||
|
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
|
|||
|
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
|
RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
|||
|
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Windows (16-bit apps):
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
FrontDoor APX 1.10 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Windows (32-bit apps):
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
|||
|
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
|
|||
|
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Unix:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
ifmail 2.9 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
|||
|
ifmail-tx ...tx7.9 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
|||
|
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Amiga:
|
|||
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
|
|||
|
CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
|
|||
|
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
|||
|
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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FIDONEWS 14-12 Page 44 24 Mar 1997
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1:1/23 [1:18/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
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Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
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is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
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Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
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also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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and are used with permission.
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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