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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.12 No. 8 (20-Feb-1995)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| /|oo \ | Small animal psychology and |
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| (_| /_) | Spiritual guidance Department: |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | Rev. Richard Visage 1:163/409 |
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| |__U__| / \// | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| _//|| _\ / | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | Tim |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Max -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim Pozar -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| David Deitch -- 1:133/411.411, deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 2
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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Advertisements in FidoNews.................................. 2
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Dear Reverend Visage,....................................... 3
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MindNet -- A new type of erotic network..................... 5
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ScoutNet - A New Scouting Network........................... 5
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INTERFAITH -- A Better Kind of Religious Echo............... 6
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Subject: File 7--Cu In The News............................. 7
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A response to Mikhail Ramendik.............................. 8
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GAMEDEV - The Game Development Echo......................... 10
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Hey everyone,............................................... 10
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Reply to article in Fidonews of 1/5/95 by Pablo Kleinman.... 11
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 12
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 2 20 Feb 1995
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Editorial
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Elections seem to be breaking out all over. Here in region
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12, we had the privilege of seeing one of the most anal
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compulsive election procedures ever posted last week. Three
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messages worth of fine print on the do's and don't's. <Hmm, is
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that a word?> One would think we were electing the regent of
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the world rather than a nodelist clerk.
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I read a lot of sysop echos. Because of the snooze, I make a
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real attempt to get "the feel" or the mood of the net at any
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given time, and I have been getting a rather bad taste in my
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mouth about our friend Steve Winter.
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Now, I am not condoning the type of behaviour and rudeness
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that has brought all this to pass. However, what I am seeing
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comes as close to mob hyteria and lynch-the-bugger mentality as is
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possible in an online environment. There seem to be a large
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number of fidonet members determined to be heros by causing as
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much ill as is possible to Mr. Winter. Maybe it is time for
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everybody to take a deep breath.
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We have a good snooze this week, with several excellent
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articles covering a wide variety of topics. Here they are:
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p.s. from a very embarassed dominatrix, i'm sorry about the
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phone bill last issue, oh, .
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Advertisements in FidoNews
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by Jerry Schwartz 1:142/928
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Advertisements in FidoNews
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In the 1205 edition of FidoNews, the editor(s) in essence posed
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the question "Should advertisements for commercial software be
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allowed." The editors seem to feel that ads for shareware should,
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for historical reasons if no other, be allowed; but that
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commercial software is different enough to merit separate
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consideration.
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Quite simply, my opinion is that there should be no difference in
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treatment. Some products which begin as shareware become
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commercial; some might go the other direction; and some exist in
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both forms. Some shareware products are more expensive than some
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commercial products.
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There is a golden aura of nobility which surrounds freeware, and
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shareware seems to benefit from this by association. While
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commercial software is somehow seen as vulgar, I personally don't
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think that FidoNews should make that distinction. A product is a
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product, and its utility is paramount in determining how
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 3 20 Feb 1995
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"newsworthy" it is; whether it is over- or underpriced is up to
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each of us to decide.
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However, I recognize the potential for abuse: nobody would be
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happy to see the Snews expand to 3mb of repetitious puff pieces
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or outright offers for sale. In my role as moderator of an echo,
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I have given this matter some thought. The approach which I've
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taken is that actual buying and selling is out of bounds; so is
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the repeated posting of advertisements. Announcements of new
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products (or new releases of existing products) are allowed.
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I suggest that the Snews adopt a similar stance. Does it involve
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judgement? Yes. Do most people understand and comply with the
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intent? Absolutely. In a conference which runs 300+ messages
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per day, and in which there are always flame wars going on, and
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which by its nature seems to attract hit-and-run attacks of the
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"You dweebs are all losers" variety, this is one rule which has
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been universally obeyed.
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Dear Editorbeings,
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Please indicate that the following article was submitted by
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Charles Herriot (1:163/110) who is still puzzled by what
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sort of furry monster was eating the bottom of Heather
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Locklear's skirt during the Billboard Music Awards. Roll 'da
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flic, Sylvia...
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Swamp Swine Magazine,
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Shuckmagosh, Ohio
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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Will wonders never cease? Our Regional Coordinator's
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patterning sessions were obviously successful enough for him
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to wake up the returning officer and an election is
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underway. Tony "PeeFour & Prunes" Bearman posted a most
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amusing set of election rules. What made the rules such a
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giggle was that poor Tony led off with a disclaimer that
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even though creeping democracy had infested our region, the
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ZC could still "appoint" the next RC. A nice warm hand job
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to Tony, I say, and may the farce be with him. The man
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obviously lives in the delirious past where Dinosaurs
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attempted to turn Fidonet into an oligarchy. It appears that
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in addition to Bob "Bob" Satti, there is much deadwood to be
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unclogged from the arteries of Fidonet.
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Amazing facts department: I read with the usual amount of
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amazement, the article by Mikhail Ramendek who asserted that
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atheism led to Communism. I *knew* there had to be a more
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compelling reason than mere superstition for having nailed a
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plastic Jesus to my monitor. Poor Mikhail was prevented from
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"reading the Snooz to his girlfriend" because he discovered
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 4 20 Feb 1995
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the dreaded "f" word in the text. Let's all just pause a
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moment to grasp the concept of *anyone* reading the Snooz to
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their girlfriend. Okay... hold that thought and please try
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to suppress the snickering while we move on to the concept
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of *anyone's* girlfriend being affronted by the "f" word.
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Just how in heck do they procreate in Russia? Save us from
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Communism, Mikhail, send us your nuns immediately.
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Speaking of godly things, how much longer do you think it
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will take George Peace to render a decision on the Stein
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vs. Kolin policy complaint? Do you suppose the delay has
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been caused by a need to engage semantic scholars to
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interpret the minimalist grunting contained in Bob "Bob"
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Satti's appeal decision? Of course, the hitherto sterling
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reputation of Matthew Stein has suffered a grievous blow
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with the news that Matty was "backing up" his copy of
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WordPerfect onto a friend's computer... for purely, cough,
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archival purposes...wheeze. What makes Matty's little foible
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even more delicious is that he tendered as an excuse, a
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series of events which have a remarkably similar odour to
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that which he had accused Kolin. The mind boggles at such
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coincidences.
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I note with approval the new Snooz policy of quoting all of
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the pathlines for each article. It adds fibre and improves
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regularity...not to mention that fact that it often makes
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more compelling reading than the article which it follows. I
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can only hope that Don & Sylvia find the time to include
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page after page of those dumb-assed Internet signature
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macros. A Snooz that looks like an antfarm can surely be
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counted as a Western Art Treasure.
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I must go, Visage, your secretary is raving again. This
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really has nothing at all to do with the fact that she is
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distraught over the frequent phone calls from someone named
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"Sheila." As a good and decent gesture, I think she should
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be sent to Newt Gingrinch's home for the Constitutionally
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Abused.
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P.S. I don't know how legions of defense lawyers and
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prosecutors have missed this obvious conclusion, but after
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watching a week of the O.J. Voyeurism Show; I am quite
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certain that the Akita did it. Eat my dust, Greta Van
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Cistern and fergawdsake *do* something with that hair.
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Regards,
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Doc Logger
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 5 20 Feb 1995
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MindNet -- A new type of erotic network
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MindNet: Because your most important sexual organ is your mind!
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I've been looking for an adult network for quite some time--something
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that could match the quality of posts I see on the Internet. I have
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not seen anything that even comes close.
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Most "adult" Fidonet-style networks seem to be created and used by
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people with the mentality of horny 15-year-olds. I'm not normally
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one to do spelling flames, but in one network's information packet,
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I saw "menage a trois" spelled "Manage A Twa." That would not have
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been so horrible by itself, but the entire packet was mangled that
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badly. If their packet was that poorly written, how good could the
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content of their network be?
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MindNet was formed with the understanding that your most important
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sexual organ is your mind. That's what we want to stimulate! I want
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MindNet to be an erotic network with class.
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In MindNet, you can participate in discussions about various aspects
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of sexuality, or you can post your steamy fantasies and read other
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people's. Both are welcome.
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People of all sexual practices and preferences are welcome on MindNet.
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We subscribe to the idea that if something you read bothers you, you
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probably shouldn't read it--but other people may enjoy it.
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MindNet is just getting started--if you'd like to be a part of it, you
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are more than welcome! I hope you'll give MindNet a try. I think
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you'll find that it's well worth the trouble!
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To join MindNet, send Fidonet Netmail to John Schofield at 1:102/903,
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or file request MINDNET.ZIP from 1:102/903 for a complete information
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packet and application.
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ScoutNet - A New Scouting Network
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by Dave Tracewell
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ScoutNet - Scouting Around the World
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After many years on the FidoNet in the successful SCOUTER & SCOUTING
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Echo conferences, Scouting via your modem is expanding! BOTH of these
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great FidoNet conferences remain a valuable resource and means of com-
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municating, and will continue to grow and be a vital part of Scouting
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telecommunications, but in an World Wide effort to link the many dif-
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ferent Scouting programs around the world, ScoutNet was formed and is
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now serving hundreds of Scouts & Scouters from 15 different countries
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on virtually every continent.
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ScoutNet is the culmination of efforts by Scouters in the Netherlands,
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Switzerland, Germany, France, Italy, Canada, and the United States to
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bring together Scouting programs from all countries into one area. It
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will allow Scouts & Scouters from around the world to help each other,
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share experiences, and keep current on the world's largest Youth
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organization. In addition to the 24 Intl. Echo Mail conferences, Scout-
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Net will have many Regional and Language specific conferences that will
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deal with local issues. With millions of Scouts & Scouters world wide,
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this new Scouting Network will really help promote friendship between
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nations and the World Brotherhood of Scouting!
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To join ScoutNet, you can freq the information file, SCOUTNET.ZIP from
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any of the regional hubs listed below, or contact Dave Tracewell in
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either the SCOUTER or SCOUTING echo mail conferences.
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ScoutNet International Headquarters:
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The Starbase International BBS - Sysop: Dave Tracewell (209) 339-0220
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Lodi, California USA
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The Eagle's Nest BBS - Sysop: Wade Martin (415) 386-0124
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San Francisco, CA (Pacific) USA
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The Outdoor Store BBS Sysop: Lionel Fowler (204) 669-1774
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Winnipeg, MB, (Western) Canada
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Scouts Canada Sysop: Don Poaps (905) 333-5216
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Burlington, Ont. (Eastern) Canada
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ASCII TIPI BBS - Sysop: Bob Morris (203) 934-9852
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West Haven, CT (North East) USA
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Battlefield District BBS Sysop: Curtis Womble (804) 559-2818
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Mechanicsville, VA (Eastern) USA
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On My Honor BBS Sysop: Michael Manning(615) 674-8741
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White Pine, TN (South East) USA
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The Dart Board BBS Sysop: Dart Nielson (303) 882-2360
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Dolores, CO (western) USA
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INTERFAITH -- A Better Kind of Religious Echo
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INTERFAITH -- A Better Kind of Religious Echo
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"Talk about what you are FOR rather than what you may be AGAINST."
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That is the founding creed of the INTERFAITH conference and it has
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stood up very well over the three years of the conference's existance
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in wide private distribution. Now, INTERFAITH is available on the
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FidoNet backbone.
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Have you ever noticed how most of the religious conferences are
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mostly dominated by negative people condeming this or "exposing" that?
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An awful lot of attention in those areas seems devoted to finding
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groups which can be slurred as a "cult" or condemned as "non-Biblical"
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according to somebody's peculiar prejudices. "False Christian scum"
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is another of the unpleasant terms which many of you have seen coming
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from one of these other religious conferences.
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As a result of such attitudes, many of those conferences quickly
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turn into a pseudo-spiritual bloodbath where a select group persecutes
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all others. Not much room for good exchange of views or spiritual
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experiences in such an atmosphere, is there?
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INTERFAITH was originally formed specifically as a response to
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those disasters. In INTERFAITH, we invite all religions, faiths,
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paths, and philosophies into an atmosphere of mutual respect. In
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INTERFAITH, religious views, doctrinal discussions, and spiritual
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experiences can be shared openly and honestly without fear of
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"meltdown" into bashing, name-calling, and slurs.
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To protect against even vestiges of unconscious discrimination or
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prejudice, the INTERFAITH moderator is assisted by a diverse panel of
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co-moderators, each representing a distinct religious or spiritual
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classification which is distinct from that of the senior moderator.
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This provides all participants with direct representation on the
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moderator staff. However, all moderators are equally dedicated to the
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principles of openness and tolerance upon which INTERFAITH is built.
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So if you would like respite from the "war zones" of other
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religious conferences, would like first-hand information about a faith
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you may have heard about, or would just like to discuss religious
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subjects in an accepting and respectful atmosphere, pick up the
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INTERFAITH conference from your FidoNet backbone feed!
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Jason Steck
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INTERFAITH Senior Moderator
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From: Gordon Meyer <72307.1502@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject: File 7--Cu In The News
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Most Computer Intrusions Unreported
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The Pentagon's Center for Information Systems Security (CISS) attempts
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to penetrate DoD systems worldwide, via the Internet. The govt hackers
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were able to gain entry to systems 95% of the time, and only 5% of the
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break-ins were detected. Of those, only 5% were reported to higher-ups
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in the organizations.
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ComputerWorld. Jan. 30, 1995 pg.12
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Spoofing and Hijacking
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In a related story to the above, Computerworld ran a story about
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CERT's alert concerning IP Spoofing and Session Hijacking. The story
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includes comments from several security specialists, who express
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concern about continued attacks of this type.
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ComputerWorld. Jan. 30, 1995 pg.12
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InfoTerrorism
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 8 20 Feb 1995
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Sure, hackers are a problem, but what are you going to do about high-
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tech military-style assualts on your datacenter? The miltary-industrial
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complex has several weapons that could (in theory) be used by a disgruntled
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employee or info-terrorist. Items such as high-energy guns that emit data
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destroying pulses, and EMF bombs that paralize your systems, are some
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the technologies that threaten your system. Yet another reason to lay
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awake at night, worrying.
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ComputerWorld. Jan. 30, 1995. pg.1
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Deadbeat BBS, Beat & Dead
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=========================
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Novell and Microsoft have reached an agreement that will close the Deadbeat
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BBS, located in New Jersey. The teenage-sysop will pay $25,000. in
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damages to the software giants, in restitution for the 60+ Novell and
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MS products that were allegedly available for downloading on the board.
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ComputerWorld. Feb. 6, 1995. pg.8
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Big Brother *is* Watching
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=========================
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Analytic Concept's "GameCop" software is just what the overseer ordered.
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The program watches active windows on a PC to see if a game is running.
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If one is, a customizable message displays a stern warning for the
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employee to get back to work. GameCop can also, optionally, sound an
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alarm to embarass the slackard in front of their cellmates..err co-workers.
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ComputerWorld. Feb. 6, 1995.
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Daddy always said to kick the boy when he's down
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Rick Simms
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No Name No Slogan
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Acid Horse
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Don't just eat a cheesburger, eat the hell out of it.
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tjm
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A response to Mikhail Ramendik
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Rev. Shawn McMahon
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1:19/34
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smcmahon@cyberspace.com
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In volume 12, issue 7, Mikhail Ramendik asserted that Fidonet was
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becoming "atheist only" on the flimsy justification that he saw some
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articles by atheists in the 'snooze.
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Mr. Ramendik, I suggest that in the future, you read a few more issues
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before you make a statement that could portray you in a foolish light.
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The 'snooze editors have made a great effort to not let their own
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personal religious beliefs control their submission policies, and I for
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one think they've done a bang-up job.
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I realize that, like many theists, you feel that allowing *ANYTHING*
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into the 'snooze that personally offends you indicates an editorial
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FidoNews 12-08 Page: 9 20 Feb 1995
|
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bias, but I would like to point out that they printed *YOUR* article,
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complete with your religious graphical image and prayer. This is hardly
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indicative of an atheist-only newsletter, much less an atheist-only
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network.
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I remind you that this is the network that has found room for *ALL*
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religions in it's membership. Even David Koresh's Branch Davidians have
|
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had a node.
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BTW, I think most educated people, including clergymen, would agree that
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the problems in your country were predominantly caused by Communism, not
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atheism.
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In my country, the USA, we've seen the result of religious freedom.
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State-sponsored atheism is bad, yes; but then, it's no worse than
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state-sponsored Christianity, or state-sponsored Judaism. Anytime the
|
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state tells you how to think, the society is doomed.
|
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Replacing one kind of thought repression with another that is opposite
|
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in some one point is not progress, it's just "same shit, different day"
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as we say here in the US.
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Last but not least, you complain about someone else's use of language
|
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preventing you from reading the 'snooze to your girlfriend, with an
|
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implication that replacing some of the characters with different ones
|
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would somehow make it possible for you to read it.
|
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Mr. Ramendik, what would you have said if you were reading the article
|
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and came across "f#(k?" And, what's preventing you from saying that
|
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|
exact same thing when you come across "fuck?" (Which, after all, means
|
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|
EXACTLY the same thing as "f#(k.")
|
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|
Bottom line; if you think the policy of the state restricting people's
|
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|
religious beliefs was a disaster in your country, you certainly
|
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|
shouldn't be attempting to get Fidonet, Fidonews, or anybody else to
|
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|
implement that heinous policy.
|
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|
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|
To the best of my knowledge, Fidonet has never denied anyone a
|
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|
nodelisting on the basis of their religious beliefs. Some "notoriously
|
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|
religious" folks have been denied on the basis of their ACTIONS TOWARD
|
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|
OTHERS, but that is a very different thing than the "atheists only club"
|
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|
you portray us as.
|
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|
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|
I wish you a long and enjoyable life, Mr. Ramendik, free of people
|
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|
trying to tell you how you have to think.
|
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|
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|
FidoNews 12-08 Page: 10 20 Feb 1995
|
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|
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|
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|
GAMEDEV - The Game Development Echo
|
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|
From: Sunir Shah (1:241/11)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Are you interesting in writing a game? Have you found a
|
|||
|
certain lack of support in FidoNet for game development?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, look no further, GAMEDEV is here!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
GAMEDEV, The Game Development Echo, is interested in every
|
|||
|
aspect of Game Development -- from programming, to making
|
|||
|
graphics, to making sound, to making music, to coming up
|
|||
|
with ideas, to publishing, to design.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You'll no longer have to splinter your discussions across
|
|||
|
echoes, and finally you can talk about certain aspects of
|
|||
|
game development that have no home anywhere.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you are at all interested, netmail Sunir Shah at
|
|||
|
1:241/11. Include your name, your FidoNet address, your
|
|||
|
calling location and good times to pick up mail (include
|
|||
|
time zone information, and convert to EST if you can).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This echo is pretty new, so it's not on the backbone quite
|
|||
|
yet, but we can change that with your help. You can poll as
|
|||
|
frequently (or infrequently) as you want.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It would be nice to gate this echo into other zones/networks
|
|||
|
as well. If you are interested in that, please say so.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Remember -- Game development is a special type of
|
|||
|
programming/application development. Maybe you should get a
|
|||
|
special echo for it... Maybe you should get GAMEDEV.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sunir Shah (1:241/11),
|
|||
|
Moderator of GAMEDEV
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey everyone,
|
|||
|
From: Greg Peterson (1:250/607)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'd like to tell you a bit about my fast-growing net called
|
|||
|
DidoNet. It is based in Toronto with one board in Indiana, and
|
|||
|
hopefully more to follow. The net doesn't have an exact theme in
|
|||
|
it, but it has lots of FUN things to do, such as RPGs, a
|
|||
|
friendly hockey pool (currently), an IP BRE game, with 5 boards
|
|||
|
in it, so far. There are also bases for just fun stuff, like a
|
|||
|
trivia base, for just people making up trivia questions, and
|
|||
|
other people try and answer them... just for fun. There is also
|
|||
|
a base for Canadian/American discussions... There are bases for
|
|||
|
lots of things, and I gladly add new bases that are requested,
|
|||
|
if I think it'd be worth five of my minutes. A bit more specific
|
|||
|
stuff now... The net allows aliases/handles, but you CAN use
|
|||
|
FidoNews 12-08 Page: 11 20 Feb 1995
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
real names, if your BBS program doesn't have alias support, or
|
|||
|
if you just want to... why? Well, all bases allow ansi. Also, if
|
|||
|
you plan to connect to the RPG bases you must allow users to
|
|||
|
post netmail, for their character sheets, or they'll have to ask
|
|||
|
you to send it yourself. the IP BRE game is being reset Feb. 27,
|
|||
|
`95, so if you'd like to join it, you may want to hurry. The BRE
|
|||
|
game is ANY version you like, but when v0.970 comes out, the net
|
|||
|
will change to it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Important: If you are long distance and would like to join, you
|
|||
|
must call long distance to send/receive mail, etc., 'cause I
|
|||
|
can't afford to call long distance to a whole bunch of Long
|
|||
|
Distance Hubs. Also, I'm looking for hubs for ANYWHERE,
|
|||
|
except I already have hubs for 219 area code (Indiana), 416
|
|||
|
area code (Toronto), and 905 area code (Metro Toronto). You
|
|||
|
are asked to please call at least once a week. Also, it's a
|
|||
|
Fido- style net, but if you're reading this, I'm assuming
|
|||
|
you have a FrontEnd setup...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, don't want to bore you with stuff about my net... so all
|
|||
|
just tell you how to join.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You can join by: F'REQing "DIDOAPP" from 1:250/607, (In
|
|||
|
Toronto...) and sending the application back through netmail, or
|
|||
|
InterNet: Greg@tor250.org Netmail OR file is preferred.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Reply to article in Fidonews of 1/5/95 by Pablo Kleinman
|
|||
|
Juan Perez, 1:3609/5@fidonet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I never figured that a member of the FidoNet would try to use
|
|||
|
FidoNews to violate the laws of the U.S.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
On his article Pablo Kleinman is asking the members of the Fidonet to
|
|||
|
violate the Laws of the U.S by requesting donations of computer
|
|||
|
equipment to the Government of Cuba,
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mr Kleinman wants to aid the same government that just recently
|
|||
|
through its actions, caused the USA to put in Concentration camps
|
|||
|
over 30,000 cubans who scaped from the same government that now he is
|
|||
|
so generously want to assist to obtain computers.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Those so called "machines at the general public's reach" are kept in
|
|||
|
governmental agencies where only those who are trusted by Fidel
|
|||
|
Castro's regime are allowed to use them.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hopefully no member of the FidoNet has been dupped into believing
|
|||
|
that their donations would end in the hands of private citizen within
|
|||
|
Cuba, they will be distributed as Mr Kleinman states by a member of
|
|||
|
the "National Academy of Science" in other words by a member of the
|
|||
|
Government of Cuba.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is a violation of the Torricelli Act, this can lead to the
|
|||
|
arrest and conviction of those attempting to send computer equipment
|
|||
|
FidoNews 12-08 Page: 12 20 Feb 1995
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
to the Island of Cuba.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hopefully this reply will deter a member of the Fidonet to comit a
|
|||
|
criminal act that will cause him or her harm in the future.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mr Kleinman seems to be aware of this fact since very conveniently
|
|||
|
lives in Spain while asking for US citizens to risk imprisoment.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Juan Perez, 1:3609/5@fidonet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
Fidonews Information
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Editors: Donald Tees, Sylvia Maxwell
|
|||
|
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
|||
|
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
"FidoNews" BBS
|
|||
|
FidoNet 1:1/23
|
|||
|
BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
more addresses:
|
|||
|
Rev. Richard Visage -- 1:163/409
|
|||
|
Don -- 1:221/192, don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
Sylvia -- 1:221/194, max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
|||
|
FidoNews
|
|||
|
128 Church St.
|
|||
|
Kitchener, Ontario
|
|||
|
Canada
|
|||
|
N2H 2S4
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
voice: (519) 570-3137
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
|||
|
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
|||
|
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
|||
|
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
|||
|
does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in
|
|||
|
these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of
|
|||
|
FidoNews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
|||
|
Copyright 1995 Donald Tees. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
|||
|
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use
|
|||
|
in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or the eds.
|
|||
|
Articles by Madam emilia may be retransmitted freely through
|
|||
|
cyber-space.
|
|||
|
FidoNews 12-08 Page: 13 20 Feb 1995
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
|||
|
form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
|
|||
|
Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
|||
|
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above paper-mail
|
|||
|
address, or trade for copy of your 'zine.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org,
|
|||
|
in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Anyone interested in getting a copy of the INTERNET GATEWAY FAQ may
|
|||
|
freq GISFAQ.ZIP from 1:133/411.0, or send an internet message to
|
|||
|
fidofaq@gisatl.fidonet.org. No message or text or subject is
|
|||
|
necessary. The address is a keyword that will trigger the automated
|
|||
|
response. People wishing to send inquiries directly to David Deitch
|
|||
|
should now mail to fidonet@gisatl.fidonet.org rather than the
|
|||
|
previously listed address.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
|||
|
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
|||
|
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
|
|||
|
from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
|||
|
trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"the pulse of the cursor is the heartbeat of fidonet"...
|
|||
|
-- END
|
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|
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|
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