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Volume 3, Number 21 2 June 1986
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| (C) Copyright 1986 by IFNA (________) (_/(_|(____/ |
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet
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Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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FNEWSART.DOC, available from node 1/1.
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
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Everything here is subject to debate.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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Why Are They Doing This to Me?
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2. ARTICLES
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Alpha Computer Services Does It Again with INTRCPT!
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Announcing the International FidoNet Conference
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Forcing Fido to return back to SEAdog
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Does a Microcomputer Managers Association Exist?
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Are you having problems with your modem?
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WelchNet Goes Private
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3. COLUMNS
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European FIDO node for media and radio enthusiasts!!
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The World of Computing: Educational software and humor
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4. WANTED
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Position Wanted
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5. FOR SALE
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Ham Radio (Drake TR-4/CW) for sale
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Entertainment Software for your PC!
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Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
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6. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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CARTOON: Gruesome George, by Bruce White
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Fidonews Page 2 2 Jun 1986
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EDITORIAL
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Why Are They Doing This to Me?
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For those of you who didn't already know, I'm a general partner
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at System Enhancement Associates. We've released all sorts of
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goodies to the public. I'm sure most of you are familiar with
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our Robot and Xlatlist programs, not to mention SEAdog.
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But mostly we are known for ARC. It's a nice little program, if
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I do say so myself. We released it as shareware as an
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experiment. We frankly didn't expect shareware to work, but we'd
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do it the same if we had it to do over again.
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Lately we seem to have uncovered a new dimension in shareware
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that frankly disturbs us. ARC is popular, and everyone wants the
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latest version. Also, we released the sources, which may have
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been a mistake (though I'd like to think not). This makes us
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vulnerable to the destructive hacker.
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I hope you saw our notice a few weeks back about ARC513.COM.
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Apparently someone has made a Trojan Horse version of ARC, and is
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distributing it far and wide. I even got a call from Infoworld.
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It seems that this business is serious enough to interest
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Infoworld in doing an article about it. As if the whole flap
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about ARC513.COM wasn't enough, I've since heard of an ARC514.COM
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floating around, and even an ARC520.COM.
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This hurts. I hope that we've sufficiently established our
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product that we can withstand a little of this, though endless
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FAT-killer versions will cause us problems before too long. But
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meanwhile, it still hurts. What did we ever do to anybody to
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deserve this?
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I'd really like to know where this is coming from. I remember
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last year there was a big fuss about pirated software, and many
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sysops started keeping track of who uploaded what. Has anybody
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uploaded one of these things to your board? If so, who? Please
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let us know. If you have any information, anything at all,
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please contact me at 1/1. If you have a phone number or an
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address on whoever sent it to you, then please tell me that, too.
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I figure I'll probably have to crawl through several links of
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uploads and downloads before I get anywhere, so all the
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information I can get will be none too little.
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Fidonews Page 3 2 Jun 1986
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ARTICLES
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Juan E. Jimenez, Micro Consulting Associates
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DataFlex Fido - 103/511
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Modem Help West - 1/110
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714-675-7106 Data 3/12/2400 baud 24 hrs
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| Alpha Computer Services' INTRCPT PD Util Does it Again! |
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A few weeks back I published a little note here about a small
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utility called INTRCPT that allows a PC/AT running DOS 3.2 to
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write 720k into 360k diskettes. At that time I said that it
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didn't work with DOS' DISKCOPY and DISKCOMP.
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Well, the problems have been fixed and it works with ALL DOS
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utilities. It has also been tested on as many programs as we
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have been able to lay our hands on, including 1-2-3, PC-Paint,
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Symphony and many others (too many...) and it has been found to
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be compatible with all of them. The version of INTRCPT that has
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solved the problems is now identified as INTRCPTX.
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Apparently both Microsoft and IBM had notified the author, Sandy
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Zelkovitz of ACS, that it simply could not be done! Well, it can
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be done, it has been done, so there!
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In the process of getting this little gem to work so well,
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several undocumented DOS interrupt functions and sub-functions
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were discovered, and a list of these will be posted here as soon
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as it is ready. This should prove to be very interesting, so keep
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your eyes peeled for this one and don't forget to pick up your
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copy of FidoNews at you local BBS!!!
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Fidonews Page 4 2 Jun 1986
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Thom:
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Jim Butterfield doesn't include any sort of addressing
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information in articles. This makes it somewhat difficult to reach him
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by FidoMail... Would you please forward this message to him? Thank
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you.
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Jim:
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I have been enjoying your column; the one on users groups was
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quite apropos, as I am pr manager (and entertainment director) for a
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brand new 'puter club, and sometimes it's hard to hold the interest of
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a group. The next speaker I've arranged for is a hacker (in the true
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sense of the word) and a software engineer. I think I'll have him read
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that before he gives his presentation. He does tend to talk in very
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technical terms.
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What prompts this message is the column in fido319. I am writing
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pd talking software for the blind, and one project that I have been
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interested in taking on for some time is a conversion of adventure,
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and perhaps some of the other text-type adventure games.
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I need source code because I'm going to have to muck with a lot
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of the strings in order to make them sound intelligable through the
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votrax-based talker. My preference in source is C, because I know it
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well, but FORTRAN, Pascal, and BASIC would be suitable, too.
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I know that there is a C version of adventure out there some-
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place. I believe it was written in the BDS flavor, but I'd be sur-
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prised if there weren't an MS-DOS version floating around, too.
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That game has been my favorite since I first saw it on a
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mainframe, many moons ago, even though I have never solved it. One of
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these days....!
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Do you have any suggestions, ideas, and/or source code that might
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help me? I can be reached on Fido 147/1, MCI Mail to Remark bbs, or
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cuuxb
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cbosgd \
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> !okstate!glmnhh!gorgo!ddrex
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ihnp4
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and my snailing address is: POB 1214, Bethany OK 73008.
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Thanks in advance,
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David Drexler
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Fidonews Page 5 2 Jun 1986
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SILICON MOUNTAIN CONFERENCE
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IN COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO
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OF THE
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INTERNATIONAL FIDO NET
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AUGUST 14-17, 1986
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The Colorado Springs PC Users Group (COSUG) and the International
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Fido Net Administrators will planning a conference for Fido
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sysops and regional and net coordinators in August, 1986, in
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, otherwise known as "Silicon
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Mountain". As presently being scheduled, workshops and programs
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will take place on Friday, August 15, 1987, and Saturday, August
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16, 1986. The conference will provide an opportunity for Fido
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sysops throughout the world to come together and learn more about
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using Fido. Regional coordinators and network hosts will have a
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chance to discuss mutual problems.
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So far, Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson and Ken Kaplan have agreed
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to come and speak. Suggestions are invited for additional
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speakers and workshop leaders. Programs will include "nuts and
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bolts" type technical discussions of common sysop problems and
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more specialized discussions of net and region coordination. In
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addition we hope to have presentations on new software programs,
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such as SEAdog, which work with Fido, and new hardware, such as
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optical disks and high speed modems. Registration will start on
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Thursday, August 14, and Departure will be on Sunday, August 17,
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1986. Spouses and families are welcome, and family-oriented
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activities such as a trip up Pikes Peak, will be provided.
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Sometimes called "Silicon Mountain", because of the concentration
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of high-tech, military and industrial installations, including
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the United States Space Command, Colorado Springs lies at the
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foot of Pikes Peak (elevation 14,410 feet), at the edge of the
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Rocky Mountains, in the western United States. There are many
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tourist attractions, including a Rodeo, mountain climbing and
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hiking, and sight-seeing. Because of the altitude (approximately
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6000 feet), the weather should be very pleasant and comfortable
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compared to the rest of the United States.
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We are looking for commercial and corporate sponsors and
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exhibitors to help with the costs, as well as additional program
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topics and speakers. Suggestions are welcome. Ken Kaplan will
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be assigning the conference a net/node number, 1/10. Further
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information concerning costs, expenses, registration, and
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programs will be provided soon. Direct airline service is
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available to Colorado Springs from many cities, such as Chicago,
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Salt Lake, St. Louis, etc.
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Be sure to put the Silicon Mountain Fido Conference on your
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schedules right away. Talk your friends and fellow sysops into
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coming also. Air fares in the United States are very cheap, and
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Fidonews Page 6 2 Jun 1986
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we may be able to get a special room rate for persons who are
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willing to share with someone else.
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George Wing, Conference Coordinator
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COSUG BBS, 128/13
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Fidonews Page 7 2 Jun 1986
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Gee M. Wong, 1/100
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Forcing Fido to return back to SEAdog
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There have been numerous reports collected by Fido Bugs West and
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Fido Bugs East, that both Fido 11v and 11w (and probably some of
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the earlier Fido releases as far back as 11q) may not always give
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up control of the system after a caller terminates his/her
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session when the /E parameter is used to invoke Fido.
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This small problem in Fido can be a real nuisance to SEAdog
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owners who permit callers to drop into Fido, but also wish to
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make use of DYNAMIC CRASH mail during the day. By having the
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system hung at Fido, SEAdog is no longer in control and the
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system is no longer available to accept incoming CRASH mail.
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So what I have done is to create a utility, FIDOEXEC 2.2, which
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addresses this problem by monitoring both Fido and Carrier
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Detect. This utility is being released as FIDOEX22.ARC, which
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contains FIDOEXEC.DOC, FIDOEXEC.COM, and FIDOEXEC.ASM. This
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utility may be downloaded from 1/100, and it is also being made
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available for distribution through 1/98 and 1/99.
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FIDOEXEC may be freely used in a noncommercial environment by all
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FidoNet Sysops, who are registered with IFNA, as shown in the
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most recent copy of NODELIST, or in a SEAdog environment operated
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by anyone who owns a legal copy of SEAdog.
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FIDOEXEC may also be copy and distributed, so long as no fee is
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charged for such copying or distribution, and that it is
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distributed unmodified and in its entirety.
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FIDOEXEC 2.2 is currently available at 1/100, and SEAdog owners
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may File Request FIDOEX22.ARC from the Pickup Directory.
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When FIDOEXEC is invoked, it will in turn invoke FIDO_IBM
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(current version only supports the IBM version of Fido), and it
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will also monitor carrier. If FIDOEXEC determines that carrier
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has been lost but Fido has not release control of the system,
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then FIDOEXEC will simulate the keying of a Control-C from the
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console by a Sysop in order to force Fido to terminate. If Fido
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does not terminate after the first Conrol-C is entered by
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FIDOEXEC, then it simulate entering Control-C up to four more
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times until Fido gives up control. If however, after the fifth
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Control-C, Fido does not give up control of the system, then
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FIDOEXEC will force a warm reboot.
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Lastly, contributions (yes please give), if you use this utility
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on your system (be honest), please consider making a contribution
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(whatever you can afford to give) to:
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FidoNet(tm) Adminstrators
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PO Box 41143
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St. Louis, MO. 63141
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Fidonews Page 8 2 Jun 1986
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Alfred Anderson, 14/61
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Microcomputer Managers Association
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There must be hundreds of people throughout the United States
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that coordinate the use of microcomputers within their company.
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This includes the responsibility for negotiating vendor
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contracts, evaluating/selecting hardware and software standards,
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perform internal training and consulting services, handle custom
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programming requests, and provide a comprehensive
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hardware/software maintenance services.
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I'm one of those people and I would like to establish contact
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with people performing similar services for their companies. I'd
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like to discuss hardware/software standards and selection
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processes, share vendor evaluations, compare support services
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planning, networking plans, use of "compatibles" and staffing
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services.
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It may be that a group along these lines has already been formed.
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If so, I would appreciate someone providing me with a contact so
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I could obtain more information. It would be best if I could tie
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into an existing group.
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If no such group exists, then perhaps we could form one along the
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lines of FIDONET. With the work being done with ECHOMAIL, we
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could effectively use FIDONET to form a national special interest
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group.
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Please direct any replies to:
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Alfred Anderson
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FIDO 14/61 (AKA 14/0)
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If you're interested, send me a message and I'll let you know if
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someone has provided the name of a national organization or if
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we're going to try and form one on our own.
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Oh, if you are not a Microcomputer Manager yourself, but you work
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for a company that has one, could you pass this message to the
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appropriate person?
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Fidonews Page 9 2 Jun 1986
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Juan Jimenez
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DataFlex Fido, 103/511
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Modem Help West, 1/110
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How to get help for that modem that won't work with Fido
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Some of you may not be aware of this, but a few months back
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FidoNet Administration set up a number of Help Nodes to take the
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load of providing tech help for Fido users away from TJ and the
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main network nodes and distribute it by type to a number of
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volunteer sysops on the network.
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Well, two nodes were set up for Modem Help. One is Jim Ryan's
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Fido (1/108) and the other is my board (1/110). Our goal is to
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help people who are having problems with their modems and cannot
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get them to work with Fido.
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We are here to help, but we need to get very specific info to be
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able to assist you. For this reason I am taking the liberty of
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putting together a little template of questions that you should
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answer in your messages to us regarding modem problems. If you
|
|||
|
provide all this info we will be better able to help you and you
|
|||
|
will save your time and money. We need the following info on
|
|||
|
EVERY request for assistance:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIRST OF ALL, HAVE YOU READ THE FIDO MANUAL?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Amazing how many people refuse to read a manual... )
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1) Type of computer you are using
|
|||
|
2) Configuration (memory, # of com ports, etc.)
|
|||
|
3) Operating System and version number
|
|||
|
4) Type of modem
|
|||
|
5) Internal or external installation?
|
|||
|
6) If external, cable configuration
|
|||
|
7) Description of problem, to include:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) Does Fido answer?
|
|||
|
b) Does Fido dial out?
|
|||
|
c) Which communications program(s) do you have
|
|||
|
that WILL work with the little beast?
|
|||
|
d) What have you tried to get it to work (Fido
|
|||
|
settings, modifications to cable, etc.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
8) Can you afford a new modem that will work?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just kidding on that last one....
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That's all there is to it. If you will provide us with this info
|
|||
|
we will be able to respond to your problem with a fix (or a
|
|||
|
replacement recommendation...) in a minimum of time and with a
|
|||
|
minimum of confusion...
|
|||
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|
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|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
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|
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|
Fidonews Page 10 2 Jun 1986
|
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|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
WelchNet Goes Down
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Effective May 26, WelchNet (and I) will be moved to a new
|
|||
|
phone number (in Berkeley, California) and will become a private
|
|||
|
FidoMail-only system. As a result, direct BBS support for GAGS
|
|||
|
will end, but I'll still be available to answer questions and
|
|||
|
such via FidoMail, and of course by phone and U.S. Mail. I'll
|
|||
|
also respond to mail to 'mwelch' on BIX (the Byte Information
|
|||
|
Exchange).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
New GAGS* Version:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In June, I will release a new version of GAGS*, with just two
|
|||
|
minor changes: the address and phone number will be changed
|
|||
|
throughout, and I will make a change to the "Save Game" option
|
|||
|
that will eliminate a bug and also prevent the overwriting of
|
|||
|
files. (Some Fido sysops had pointed out that when allowing
|
|||
|
callers to exit Fido and play a GAGS game, the less polite
|
|||
|
callers have chosen to save their games to file names like
|
|||
|
"\FIDO\USER.BBS" or "\COMMAND.COM.")
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
At that time, I'll send a postcard to all registered users
|
|||
|
notifying them of my new address and phone number, but GAGS users
|
|||
|
who weren't having troubles with the save-file option shouldn't
|
|||
|
bother upgrading.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Since WelchNet will be a private node, with the number known
|
|||
|
only to the local host, you should not attach files to WelchNet,
|
|||
|
and I will no longer be able to afford outgoing file transfers.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I've tried to locate new BBSs to service callers interested in
|
|||
|
the message areas I had. The following list may be of use to
|
|||
|
people who did or didn't call WelchNet during its 14 months of
|
|||
|
operations:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Seequa:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
WelchNet's Seequa messages and files have been moved over to
|
|||
|
Dog Lab, run by longtime Seequa Chameleon victim/owner Bruce
|
|||
|
Oblander at (415) 594-0781. (San Carlos, California; Fido
|
|||
|
125/594.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Turbo Pascal callers can try the following BBSs:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Turbo Fido (916) 481-9557 Carmichael CA Fido 10/6
|
|||
|
TurboPointer (516) 682-8525 Wilmington DE
|
|||
|
Computers Unltd.(513) 258-0020 Ohio (9pm-11am)
|
|||
|
High Sierra (209) 296-3534 SE Calif. 24 hours
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Amiga Callers should try the following:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 11 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Lido_Hotel (203) 248-7324 Hamden, CT 16/630
|
|||
|
AMuse (212) 269-4879 New York 107/?
|
|||
|
Amiga BBS (313) 348-4479 Novi, MI
|
|||
|
FAUG (415) 595-5452 N.Calif.
|
|||
|
RSVP_BBS (415) 659-9169 Fremont, CA 10/425
|
|||
|
Amiga Talk (602) 846-3901 Arizona
|
|||
|
Gateway_NRA (718) 338-3501 Brooklyn 107/222
|
|||
|
Casa_Mi_Amiga (904) 733-4515 Jacksonville, FL 112/1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And GAGS* can be downloaded from the following boards:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
James Mulvey ? Connecticut 203-259-6838
|
|||
|
Fido 17/0 Puyallup, WA 206-848-9232
|
|||
|
MachineDo L.A. area, CA 213-548-3546 102/115
|
|||
|
G_BBS Los Angls.,CA 213-874-9484
|
|||
|
Fido Nordal Richardson,TX 214-690-6464
|
|||
|
Metro Fire Fido ?? Florida 305-596-8611 135/14
|
|||
|
Illini Data Bollingbrk,IL 312-759-5402
|
|||
|
P-1 FidoNet ?? Michigan 313-545-1931
|
|||
|
Computer Plaza Pittsburgh,PA 412-653-7155
|
|||
|
WestPenn Pittsburgh,PA 412-367-2505
|
|||
|
Fantasy Factory Pacifica, CA 415-355-6047 125/3
|
|||
|
Pyramid of Power Alameda, CA 415-482-0532
|
|||
|
The Exchange Oakland, CA 415-339-8457 RBBS
|
|||
|
Sci-Fido Oakland, CA 415-655-0667 125/84
|
|||
|
SkateBoard S.F., CA 415-776-7228 125/433
|
|||
|
Harry Logan S.F., CA 415-621-6520 RBBS
|
|||
|
Fido_Racer Murray, KY 502-762-3140
|
|||
|
N.Ctrl.Library Wenatchee, WA 509-663-5232
|
|||
|
Dog's Breath Austin, TX 512-836-8588
|
|||
|
Allen's Board Cincinnati,OH 513-579-5731
|
|||
|
St. Joes Hosptl. Phoenix, AZ 602-235-9653
|
|||
|
The Morning Zoo CherryHill NJ 609-424-5823
|
|||
|
Apocolypse Now Sandy, UT 801-561-9856
|
|||
|
Uncle Sams Fido Honolulu, HI 808-546-3719
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please let me know of other BBSs with GAGS on-line.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
* GAGS is the Generic Adventure Game System, a text adventure
|
|||
|
game authoring system for MS-DOS computers.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mark J. Welch
|
|||
|
P.O. Box 2409
|
|||
|
San Francisco, CA 94126
|
|||
|
(415) 564-1066 (voice, until 6/1/86)
|
|||
|
Fido 125/459 (FidoMail only)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 12 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
COLUMNS
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
European FIDO node for media and radio enthusiasts!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
by Jonathan Marks, "Media Network" Producer, Radio Netherlands,
|
|||
|
Hilversum, Holland.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A little radio background
|
|||
|
-------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
At this moment, hundreds of English language radio stations are
|
|||
|
on the air analysing world affairs. They can be received
|
|||
|
anywhere, from Canberra to Cologne, from Holland to Hawaii -
|
|||
|
providing you're carrying the right type of radio. The events of
|
|||
|
the last few weeks have made people even more aware of how
|
|||
|
important international communication is.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In the last five years, there has been a boom in sophisticated
|
|||
|
portable radios. They can cover not only medium wave (or "AM" as
|
|||
|
it's often refered to in North America) and VHF (or "FM"), but
|
|||
|
stations that operate on the dial space in between. This lies
|
|||
|
between 3 and 30 Megahertz, and is often termed the "shortwave
|
|||
|
band". The new generation of receivers has successfully destroyed
|
|||
|
the image of shortwave as something to do with "ham" radio and
|
|||
|
giant antennas on the rooftop. Today, shortwave is the news
|
|||
|
medium, easy to access in English wherever you happen to be. It
|
|||
|
is invaluable for world news and stock exchange information. But
|
|||
|
you need to know what you're doing.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Wide choice of receivers
|
|||
|
------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There are currently over 70 different shortwave receivers on the
|
|||
|
world market. You'll find them at many duty-free outlets in
|
|||
|
Europe, and in larger electrical stores. The problem is that
|
|||
|
many sales assistants don't do much travelling, and they're
|
|||
|
advice and background knowledge is often innaccurate.
|
|||
|
Demonstrations under a ceiling full of flourescent lights often
|
|||
|
produces a loud buzz when the radio is switched to the shortwave
|
|||
|
range. Cheaper sets use the conventional "pointer and dial"
|
|||
|
method to indicate where you are on the dial. However,
|
|||
|
manufacturers such as Sony, Grundig, Silver, Panasonic,
|
|||
|
Nordmende, and Philips currently market so-called "world
|
|||
|
receivers" with a digital frequency readout. Instead of
|
|||
|
searching a crowded dial looking for English voices, if you know
|
|||
|
that, say, Voice of America is on 6040 kilohertz, you simply
|
|||
|
twist the tuning knob until the display shows 6040, turn up the
|
|||
|
volume, and there's the station. Some more expensive models go
|
|||
|
even further. The tuning knob is replaced or supplemented by a
|
|||
|
calculator style keypad. If you want to listen to Radio
|
|||
|
Netherlands transmitting to North America pressing 6-1-6-5 at
|
|||
|
0230 GMT is sufficient. Shortwave signals get much further than
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 13 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
AM or VHF.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So whats the connection between shortwave and FIDO?
|
|||
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For the last 25 years, one non-commercial international
|
|||
|
broadcasting station, Radio Netherlands, has been broadcasting a
|
|||
|
programme for radio enthusiasts. Formerly called "DX Juke Box",
|
|||
|
the programme has now been remodelled and is called "Media
|
|||
|
Network". It is broadcast each THURSDAY on Radio Netherlands'
|
|||
|
English Service. In over 30 minutes, we illustrate events in
|
|||
|
broadcasting from all over the world. There's an emphasis on
|
|||
|
radio broadcasting, though an increasing amount of material to
|
|||
|
interest the satellite and computer enthusiast is also being
|
|||
|
included. A weekly propagation report has built up a loyal
|
|||
|
following, especially amongst those who use computer programmes
|
|||
|
to help plan listening.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Contrary to what one might first expect, computers have already
|
|||
|
reached listeners in developing countries such as India, Sri
|
|||
|
Lanka, Malaysia, and Indonesia. Indeed, some letters have been
|
|||
|
received from listeners in the region sent in on floppy disk!
|
|||
|
Because of listener demand from more news of developments in both
|
|||
|
the computing as well the communication field, regular items are
|
|||
|
included in Media Network under the INFODUTCH column, where
|
|||
|
INFODUTCH stands for Information Of Direct Use To Computer
|
|||
|
Hobbyists ! Home computers (e.g. Sinclair, BBC, MSX) have found
|
|||
|
their way into schools and colleges in many parts of Asia, and
|
|||
|
also in West Africa. Listeners in Nigeria ask for computer
|
|||
|
listings to experiment in their part of the world.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
RN listeners, with suitable equipment, are now be able to access
|
|||
|
English language material on the computer in one of two ways.
|
|||
|
They can either phone the number in Hilversum direct by dialling
|
|||
|
the international exchange in your country, i.e. 011 in North
|
|||
|
America, 010 in the UK, followed by 31 for Holland, 35 for
|
|||
|
Hilversum, and then 45395. Radio Netherlands material can be
|
|||
|
found in message/file section number 2. Your modem needs to be
|
|||
|
capable of decoding CCITT tones (standard in Europe), and our
|
|||
|
computer will automatically switch to either 300/300 or 1200/75
|
|||
|
Baud. We're working on the 1200/1200 and 2400/2400 capability.
|
|||
|
You can also use FIDO, address messages to Jonathan Marks, at
|
|||
|
FIDO net 500, node 202. The following data is now on the system:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. Texts of consumer tests on communications equipment, i.e. new
|
|||
|
shortwave radios, antennas, and computer interfaces.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. Current radio propagation information, updated regularly.
|
|||
|
Unlike medium wave and VHF, shortwave conditions are dependant
|
|||
|
on the sun and the radiation it gives to the earth. The solar
|
|||
|
data is montiored continuously for Media Network, and
|
|||
|
forecasts (similar to weather forecasts) are used by an
|
|||
|
estimated 250,000 listeners worldwide on a weekly basis.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 14 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. BASICODE programs received from listeners abroad, and
|
|||
|
developed by Radio Netherlands.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4. Communications/Broadcasting news.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What else?
|
|||
|
----------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Here's an idea of some of the subjects being dealt in the radio
|
|||
|
programme over the next few weeks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: May 15th Media Network "All Set for the Sun". This
|
|||
|
week's Media Network will include an interview with Dr David
|
|||
|
Marsden of the European Space Agency's Technology Centre at
|
|||
|
Noordwijk on the Dutch North Sea Coast. He'll be looking at a
|
|||
|
project that should have been launched today, but is still ready
|
|||
|
to explore the sun's poles. It will help to unravel some of the
|
|||
|
mysteres of the solar wind, which in turn affects shortwave radio
|
|||
|
reception conditions. The programme will also include
|
|||
|
clandestine radio news from John Campbell, and we hope to have
|
|||
|
media news from our African correspondent, Richard Ginbey.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: May 22nd Media Network "Paris Reportage". This week
|
|||
|
we'll be linking to the studios of Radio France Internationale to
|
|||
|
find out the results of the European DX Council conference in the
|
|||
|
French capital. Results of the EDXC Computer survey are
|
|||
|
expected, plus developments on the shortwave receiver front.
|
|||
|
Yaesu will be talking about their Computer Aided Tuning system,
|
|||
|
and we look at the new receiver from Japan Radio Company.
|
|||
|
They'll also be media news from Andy Sennitt.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: May 29th Media Network "News Review" . This week's
|
|||
|
edition will carry a round-up of media developments, plus a look
|
|||
|
at new equipment. Victor Goonetilleke provides Asian media news
|
|||
|
round-up.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: June 5th Media Network "AM Stereo Gone Down, down
|
|||
|
under?" We look at the medium wave stereo concept launched back
|
|||
|
in 1982 in the United States, and later in Australia. Has it
|
|||
|
succeeded? Why will it never catch on in Europe.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: June 11th Media Network "News Review" including
|
|||
|
contributions from clandestine columnist John Campbell and
|
|||
|
African media reporter Richard Ginbey. We'll also have a survey
|
|||
|
of new publications for the summer (at least for us)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thursday: June 19th Media Network "Vintage Wireless Lives"
|
|||
|
There's a growing value in the "junk" valve/tube radios that get
|
|||
|
stored away in cellars and the garden shed. The numbers of
|
|||
|
"antique" radio collectors is on a sharp increase in Europe and
|
|||
|
North America. Some manufacturers have even started to make
|
|||
|
"reproduction" copies of receivers that made in the 1930's. We
|
|||
|
look at the trends, the current market situation, and why people
|
|||
|
want to collect sets that Grandpa used to fiddle with.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 15 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tuning in the shortwave programme
|
|||
|
---------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Media Network is broadcast each Thursday by Radio Netherlands.
|
|||
|
To find us on shortwave, use the guide below. It is arranged to
|
|||
|
cover one whole day of broadcasting. The 0530 UTC broadcast is,
|
|||
|
therefore, put at the end of the list since although the day has
|
|||
|
changed in The Netherlands, it is still the previous evening on
|
|||
|
the West Coast of North America. Confusing perhaps, but if you
|
|||
|
look at a globe you'll see the reason more clearly.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Time (GMT) Main Area Served Frequencies (kHz)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
04:30 Middle East F9895, F11720
|
|||
|
07:30 New Zealand B9630, B9715
|
|||
|
08:30 New Zealand B9715
|
|||
|
08:30 S.E. Asia M21485, M17575
|
|||
|
10:30 Australia/Caribbean B9650, B6020
|
|||
|
11:30 Middle East/Asia F15560, M21480, M17575
|
|||
|
11:30 Europe F17605, F9715, F5955
|
|||
|
14:30 S.W. Asia M17575, F15560, F13770,
|
|||
|
M11735, F5955
|
|||
|
16:30 Southern/East Africa M9515, M6020
|
|||
|
18:30 South/Central Africa B21685, B17605, M9540, M6020
|
|||
|
18:30 Europe F6020 (Parallel to Afr.Svce)
|
|||
|
20:30 West Africa F11740, F9895, M9715, M9540
|
|||
|
01:30 Eastern N. America F9895, F6020
|
|||
|
02:30 Eastern N. America B9590, B6165
|
|||
|
05:30 Western N. America B9715, B6165
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The time shown above is the starting time of the broadcast.
|
|||
|
Media Network is broadcast approximately 23 minutes after the
|
|||
|
start of the 55 minute transmission. The letters before each
|
|||
|
frequency correspond to F - Flevoland, The Netherlands, B-
|
|||
|
Bonaire Relay Station, Caribbean, M- Madagascar, Africa.
|
|||
|
Transmissions not directed to your area may be audible, e.g. the
|
|||
|
0430 UTC broadcast is currently being heard in Australasia, but
|
|||
|
reception is generally not as reliable as those transmissions
|
|||
|
beamed your way.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Constructive comments, questions, suggestions, and criticism is
|
|||
|
always welcomed by the producer, Jonathan Marks. Mail to Net
|
|||
|
500, Node 502. File Attach to Net 500, Node 0 for the time
|
|||
|
being.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fidonews Page 16 2 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
THE WORLD OF COMPUTING
|
|||
|
written by Reuven M. Lerner
|
|||
|
FidoMail 107/233
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hello, and welcome back! As I mentioned last time, I was
|
|||
|
planning on doing a report about some educational software that I
|
|||
|
had looked at, and discuss the future of educational software.
|
|||
|
Unfortunately, my school had a fire, and although there was no
|
|||
|
structural damage to the computer center or to the machines
|
|||
|
themselves, we have been denied access to that wing of the
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building until everything's cleaned up. Which means that for
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now, I just have to talk about the future of educational
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computing. But before I get to that, let's get to the latest
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news from Microsoft!
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I am absolutely delighted to report that not only is
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Microsoft coming out with a version 3.0 of their Word word-
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processor, but they are also taking copy-protection off of it!
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We know that we're headed for good news in protection when one of
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the largest (if not THE largest) producers of software takes
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protection off. Let's hope that they are, in fact, the "IBM of
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software," and the rest of the industry will follow their lead.
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Educational Software
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As I said, I was going to review some educational packages,
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but due to the fire in my school (we're back in the building now,
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but the computers are not available), it's a little difficult. I
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have used them before, though, so let me at least tell you the
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problems that I have with some of the packages.
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First of all, they're unprofessionally done. I was astounded
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when a program costing about $25 was easily breakable by Control-
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c, and then listable and changeable! Any software company who
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makes software geared for younger children should have it just as
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bulletproof as programs made for busy executives who don't
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understand computers either. Half of the sixth-graders I spoke
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with knew that to break their own programs it took Control-c, how
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many do you think would try it on other programs?
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Second of all, the instructions on most of them are pathetic.
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As far as I can tell, they're made so that a math teacher can
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plug it into the computer in their room, and let the kids try to
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guess how to factor trinomials, or something of that sort. When
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I couldn't understand what to do next, I wondered what a teacher
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who has never used a computer would say? Do you think that she'd
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be eager to bring in a computer often if there was the
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possibility of a fatal error?
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An offshoot of that idea is the whole "user-friendly"
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concept. All of these companies try to tell us how user-friendly
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their package is, as opposed to the others. I hate to say it,
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but producing nice-looking documentation on a Macintosh is nice,
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but doesn't add anything to the quality of the writing. I work
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with teachers who are nervous about using cassette recorders or
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VCRs. Shouldn't there be clear instructions to get them calm in
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front of an overpowering machine?
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Well, now that I've done some criticism, let me say that all
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in all, once you got around the quirks and documentation, there
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was a good program in there. Most of the programs worked as they
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should, and are good for giving students practice in different
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subjects. But there's a lot out there (I know, I get many of the
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catalogs). How can a school decide what to get?
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They should firstly deal with a large manufacturer. I don't
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know any school administrator who would feel comfortable dealing
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mail-order to get a low price, and then realize that he or she
|
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had lost money because there was no support (not to knock mail-
|
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order...it's just not for amateurs). Deal with a local computer
|
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store with support and knowledgeable salespeople.
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As you would guess by now, I also would require that schools
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only buy unprotected software. What kind of lessons to kids get
|
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when they learn that you have to copy software because there's no
|
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money? I'm sure that that's where many kids learn about copying.
|
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So where's educational computing going? I see a bigger boom
|
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in it in the near future, with better documentation, no
|
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protection (many catalogs have fewer protected than unprotected
|
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software, a change from a year or two ago), and better skills.
|
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There's more high-school software out now than there ever was.
|
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If you're an educator, please write to me, and tell me your
|
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opinions about software. I also suggest that you subscribe to
|
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Classroom Computer Learning, put out by the same people as
|
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Learning magazine. It has interesting games for all levels of
|
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students, programming instruction, and a lot more. It's the sign
|
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of things to come.
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Computer Humor
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|
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I just got the April issue of Byte, and if you haven't
|
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|
already, try reading the April articles! Ask BYTE is really
|
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funny, and the last two articles in the Features section are
|
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|
almost real articles, except for some weird ideas put in.
|
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|
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|
We computer people as a breed don't have much humor out. I
|
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|
know, many BBS' have joke sections, but if any of you have a lot
|
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of computer jokes, send it out to all of us! We need a good dose
|
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|
every once in a while.
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Next time
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I know that it was shorter this time, but I'm still getting
|
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|
over a big cold and have, literally, ten things to do. Because
|
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of that, I'll probably be looking into multitasking next time.
|
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|
Best wishes for a warm spring, and happy computing!
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Fidonews Page 18 2 Jun 1986
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(c)1986 Reuven M. Lerner. All Rights Reserved. Permission
|
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is given to copy this column so long as it is for non-profit use.
|
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If you wish to use it for other than non-profit use, write to the
|
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author at 21 Old Westbury Road, Old Westbury, NY 11568, or at
|
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|
FidoMail 107/233.
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Fidonews Page 19 2 Jun 1986
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WANTED
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Position Wanted
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A friend (no, not me) is looking for a new job that can take
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advantage of her editing and communications skills.
|
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|
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She is currently a commercial proofreader with extensive
|
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proofreading and copy-editing experience, as well as experience
|
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(15+ years) at various administrative, sales, and management
|
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tasks.
|
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|
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She's interested in a position with more variety and respon-
|
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sibility than her current (proofreading) work, hopefully a job
|
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with some room to grow and potential for advancement. She now
|
|||
|
lives in Massachusetts, but is willing to relocate for the right
|
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|
position.
|
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|
|||
|
She is an enthusiastic Atari 800 owner, fluent in BASIC (for
|
|||
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what that's worth now) and involved in a user group. She also has
|
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some experience with the IBM PC and Apple II.
|
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|
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|
If you know of a company that might benefit from her skills
|
|||
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and interests, please drop a line so I can let her know who to
|
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contact.
|
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|
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|
Send FidoMail to Mark Welch to 125/459, or mail on BIX to
|
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|
'mwelch', or call Mark Welch (at work) at 800-227-8365
|
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|
[800-344-4636 in CA], or write to P.O. Box 2409, San Francisco,
|
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CA 94126.)
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Fidonews Page 20 2 Jun 1986
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FOR SALE
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=================================================================
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|
HAM RADIO FOR SALE
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|
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|
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|
Drake TR-4/CW (ham radio). 10-80 Meters, has CW filter.
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Excellent condition, with power microphone and manual.
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|
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|
You must pick up or pay shipping from Framingham, Massachusetts.
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Asking $350 or best reasonable offer.
|
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|
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Call Pat Davis at 617-620-1217, or send FidoMail to 125/459.
|
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Fidonews Page 21 2 Jun 1986
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ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!
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|
|||
|
SUPERDOTS! KALAH!
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|||
|
Professional quality games include PASCAL source! From the
|
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|
author of KALAH Version 1.6, SuperDots, a variation of the
|
|||
|
popular pencil/paper DOTS game, has MAGIC and HIDDEN DOT
|
|||
|
options. KALAH 1.7 is an African strategy game requiring
|
|||
|
skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board. Both games
|
|||
|
use the ANSI Escape sequences provided with the ANSI.SYS
|
|||
|
device driver for the IBM-PC, or built into the firmware on
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|||
|
the DEC Rainbow. Only $19.95 each or $39.95 for both
|
|||
|
exciting games! Please specify version and disk format.
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|
These games have been written in standard TURBO-PASCAL and
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|
run on the IBM-PC, DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
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CPM/86, and PDP-11. Other disk formats are available, but
|
|||
|
minor customization may be required.
|
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|
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|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
For every order placed, a donation will be made to the Fido
|
|||
|
coordinators! Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
|
|||
|
and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
|
|||
|
be sent to the coordinators. When you place an order, BE
|
|||
|
CERTAIN TO MENTION WHERE YOU SAW THE AD since it also
|
|||
|
appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Questions and comments can be sent to:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Brian Sietz at Fido 107/17
|
|||
|
(609) 429-6630 300/1200/2400 baud
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|
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Fidonews Page 22 2 Jun 1986
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Public Domain collection - 400+ "ARC" archives - 15 megs of
|
|||
|
software and other goodies, and that's "archived" size! When
|
|||
|
unpacked, you get approximately 21 megabytes worth of all kinds
|
|||
|
of software, from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
|
|||
|
to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
|
|||
|
downloads from just about 150 or more BBS's and other sources,
|
|||
|
all of which have been examined, indexed and archived for your
|
|||
|
convenience. Starting a Bulletin Board System? Want to add on
|
|||
|
to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
|
|||
|
is the answer!!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To order the library, send $100 (personal or company check,
|
|||
|
postal money order or company purchase order) to:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
|
|||
|
Post Office Box 4296
|
|||
|
200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
|
|||
|
Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Note: No profit is made from the sale of the Public Domain
|
|||
|
software in this collection. The price is applied entirely to
|
|||
|
the cost of downloading the software over the phone lines,
|
|||
|
running a BBS to receive file submissions, and inspecting,
|
|||
|
cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files. Obtaining this
|
|||
|
software yourself through the use of a computer with a modem
|
|||
|
using commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
|
|||
|
we charge for the service.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
|
|||
|
prepared on. The following choices are available:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
|
|||
|
- Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
|
|||
|
- DSBackup
|
|||
|
- Fastback
|
|||
|
- ACS INTRCPT 720k format (Requires a 1.2m floppy drive and
|
|||
|
PC-DOS 3.2)
|
|||
|
- Plain ol' files (add $50)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Add $30 if you want the library on 1.2 meg AT disks (more
|
|||
|
expensive disks). There are no shipping or handling charges.
|
|||
|
California residents add 6% tax. For each sale, $10 will go to
|
|||
|
the FidoNet Administrators.
|
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|
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|
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Fidonews Page 23 2 Jun 1986
|
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|
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|
NOTICES
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|
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|
|||
|
The Interrupt Stack
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
14 Jun 1986
|
|||
|
The Next Occasional MetroNet Sysop Meeting, to be held in West
|
|||
|
Milford, New Jersey. Contact The Wizard at node 107/16 for
|
|||
|
details and directions.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
14 Aug 1986
|
|||
|
Start of the International FidoNet Conference, Colorado
|
|||
|
Springs, Colorado. Contact George Wing at node 128/13 for
|
|||
|
details.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
24 Aug 1989
|
|||
|
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
|
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|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
|||
|
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
|
|||
|
Bruce White, 109/612
|
|||
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|
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|
Gruesome George by Bruce White
|
|||
|
+-------------------------------------------------+
|
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|_ |
|
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| \ |
|
|||
|
| \ Honey, what time |
|
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|
| George, with a is it now? |
|
|||
|
| $2,000 computer and | |
|
|||
|
| your telecommunications | ____\__ |
|
|||
|
| access to the world, | |_| \ |
|
|||
|
| how come you still _____ |\ |
|
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|
| need me to tell you | _ | | |
|
|||
|
| what time it is? ______ | |_| | | |
|
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| __(______)_|_____|___ | |
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| ______ || || | |
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|
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ANY SYSOPS interested in EchoMailing an area on SCIENCE-FICTION
|
|||
|
and fandom or on GAMING (role-playing games and war games)
|
|||
|
conference? I can assist you with installation, if you need it.
|
|||
|
The SF area already has two boards. Contact Brad Hicks, 100/523.
|
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