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Volume 3, Number 18 5 May 1986
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| - FidoNews - /|oo \ |
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| Fido and FidoNet _`@/_ \ _ |
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet
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Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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FNEWSART.DOC, available from node 1/1.
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
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Everything here is subject to debate.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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It Takes All Kinds
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2. ARTICLES
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Squeeze 720k onto 360k disks on an IBM-PC/AT w/DOS 3.2
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A Question of Privacy
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Fido Utility Catalog
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3. COLUMNS
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User Group Presentations
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Notes from Abroad
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4. WANTED
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Fido Looking for File Help
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5. FOR SALE
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Entertainment Software for your PC!
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Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
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Special Offer to FidoNet Sysops
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6. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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CARTOON: Gruesome George, by Bruce White
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Fidonews Page 2 5 May 1986
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EDITORIAL
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It Takes All Kinds
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We get some odd customers in the shareware business.
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I don't mean the private individuals who make donations. They're
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a blessing. There's nothing quite like being appreciated. I
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remember one letter; the guy went on for pages about how he liked
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our product, apologizing profusely that he couldn't send any
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more.
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Some of the companies are a bit off-the-wall, though. Not all,
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by any means. Most companies are pretty good about it. Well,
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the ones who pay at all are generally pretty good. I gather a
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lot of companies simply don't understand shareware yet, but we're
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getting there.
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But there's that small percentage that kind of makes you wonder.
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I got a call just the other day from one of them. It seems his
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company was one subsidiary of a large conglomerate, and he wanted
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to use our program in his project. His problem was that each of
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the subsidiaries is organized as a separate company in a separate
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location. For example, he worked for one outfit in New York, but
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there's another outfit in California that has a different name
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and is organized as a different company, but both are owned by
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the same conglomerate. Are you with me so far?
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Now, he had heard of our "unlimited site license", and he wanted
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to know if we would consider the two companies (along with about
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another twenty all over the world) to be one "site".
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The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines
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a site as "The place or plot of land where something was, is, or
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is to be located." I would tend to feel that it's pushing things
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a bit to consider the entire inhabited surface of the Earth as
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ONE plot of land.
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I'm sure he felt he was trying to do the right thing. After all,
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he could have just used it, and to Hell with us. We're hardly
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going to go out and sue twenty companies around the world for a
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few hundred bucks apiece. No, he saw his legal and moral
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obligations, and wanted to do what was right. He just didn't
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want to spend any money on it. I tried to explain to him that
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spreading any "normal" commercial package that widely would cost
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far more. His attitude was "Well, yes, but..."
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What can I say? People like that are ASKING for copy protection.
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They have no one to blame but themselves if they get stuck with
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it.
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Fidonews Page 3 5 May 1986
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ARTICLES
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Juan E. Jimenez, Micro Consulting Associates
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DataFlex Fido / Modem Help West
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103/511 - 1/110
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| How to get your IBM-PC/AT running DOS 3.2 to write 720k |
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Sanford Zelkovitz, Sysop of Fido 103/506 and president of Alpha
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Computer Service, has come up with a way to squeeze 720k into
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those 360k disks which you can now get for around $0.69 in
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quantity. The solution is in the form of a program he has written
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called INTRCPT.COM. The program is memory resident and allows
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you to write 720k of data onto a DS/DD diskette using the 1.2 meg
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drives.
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There are some limitations to the program:
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(1) You must be using an IBM-PC/AT
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(2) You must be running IBM PC-DOS version 3.2
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(3) You must have at least one 1.2 meg drive
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The program works in conjunction with a program distributed with
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PC-DOS 3.2 called "DRIVER.SYS". Complete instructions are
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included in the release ARChive, including full MASM source code.
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You can obtain the file from my Fido at 714-675-7106,
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300/1200/2400, 24 hrs; or from any other Net 103 Fido in the NET
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103 area code.
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I have tested the program with Norton's NU, DSBACKUP and a few
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other programs, and it works like a champ! The only program that
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we know it will NOT work with is DISKCOPY.COM.
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Fidonews Page 4 5 May 1986
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Dann Porter, 148/2
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A Question of Privacy
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As responsible SysOps, we have all, from time to time, had to
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delete a message or two for a variety of reasons. How often have
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you "killed" a message that made reference to copying or trading
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commercial software? Or zapped some feeble-minded user's
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profanity-riddled effort at discussing the current debate topic
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on your board? All part of the job, right?
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Now think back to the last message you performed a bitectomy
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on. Was it a PUBLIC notice or a PRIVATE one? Maybe you didn't
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even pay attention to that detail. I'm sure no one would dispute
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our right to erase a PUBLIC message that falls into the category
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of "unacceptable", but what about PRIVATE ones?
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Do we have the right to impose our moral or ethical standards
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on users that we are offering a service to? A service that we
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promote as being PRIVATE. I can't help but make a comparison to
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the postal service or voice communications over the same
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telephone lines that BBS's utilize. I can almost hear the Civil
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Liberties people screaming all the way up here.
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If FidoNet is going to be considered a legitimate competitor to
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the other E-Mail services that are available, we must ensure that
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a high standard of privacy is maintained. The scope of our
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responsibility should not include being a censor of private
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communications between two citizens. In fact, whether we even
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have the right to READ messages flagged as PRIVATE is in doubt in
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my mind. I realize that this would be difficult to avoid in our
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day to day maintenance of Fido, but it is something to think
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about.
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There are other implications that should be considered when
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dealing with an international network, but I'll leave that for
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future dissertations. I believe this is a relevant issue that
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deserves some serious thought by all concerned. Any comments or
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criticisms are most welcome....after all, we are talking about
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Free Speech here.
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Fidonews Page 5 5 May 1986
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Richard Polunsky, 106/2
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FIDO UTILITY CATALOG
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PURPOSE:
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To assist existing and new Fido sysops in finding programs to
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make their task a little easier.
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NOTES:
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I have not tested all utilities on this list; indeed, I have
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obtained only two-thirds of them. I have attempted to list both
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the utility name and the filename by which it is commonly
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distributed. This format does not allow for multiple authors to
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be listed, so I have shown only the first author in such cases.
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REVISIONS:
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The current list will be kept on the I.T.C. BBS, node 106/2, with
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file attach path D:\FIDO\FIDOCATU.ARC. List updates will be done
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depending on the quantity of changes; the first update is planned
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for May 1, and new editions will be announced in FidoNews.
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
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Henk Wevers also did a utility catalog; his appeared in a back
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issue of Fidonews, and I liked his format so much I adopted it.
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Dave Reinsel, Kurt Reisler, and Rich Kaleta who provided me with
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my initial set of utilities and helped me get running.
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And all those sysops and users who keep on writing utilities for
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the Fido system.
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CONDENSED LISTING:
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Utility Version Date Author Home Fido
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ADDQUOTE Bob Hartman 132/101
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ARC 5.12 86/02 S.E.A. 107/7
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B 2.3 See BBSSORT
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BBSSORT 2.3 85/11 Micro-Help Inc.
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BETWEEN 122/0
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CDMON 1.1 85/12 Mathew Zilmer 102/1101
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CHG2DATE Josey Wales 124/3
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COPYX_D 1.2A Robert Grahm 130/439
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CRUSH 3.0 85/07 Harold Barker 11/493
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DATEFILE 85/10 Wes Cowley 137/19
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DAYLIGHT 0.0 85/11 Randy Bush 122/6
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DAYNBR 1.0 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
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DIST-KIT
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DIST-MIS
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DISTRIB 1.00 86/01 J. Brad Hicks 100/523
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ECHOMAIL 1.10 86/03 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
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EDIFIDO 1.12 85/11 Bob Klahn 107/50
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EDITNL 1.0 86/03 Ben Baker 100/76
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ERRORSET Gary Sanborn 106/101
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EVENT 2.0 85/12 Ben Baker 100/76
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EXTRACT 2.00 Don Daniels 107/211
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FASDOC01 86/03 Jim Black 106/106
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FASTV01A 86/03 David Reinsel 106/343
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FFM 4.2 86/02 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
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FFMSRCE 4.2 86/02 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
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FIDODISP 1.1 Robert Briggs 15/464
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FIDOKFIX 86/04 Richard Hallett
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FIDOLIST 2.00 84/12 Alexander Morris 107/22
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FIDOMLNK 85/07 Allen Miller 108/10
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FIDOMSG Don Daniels 107/211
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FIDOMSG2 107/50
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FIDOQUES 2.5
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FIDOREAD 1.5 86/04 Richard Polunsky 106/2
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FIDOSTRT 86/04 David Kaplan 16/387
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FIDOUSER 1.0 84/12 Allen Miller 108/10
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FIDOUT01
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FIDOUTIL 1.0 85/11 David Strickler 101/45
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FIDOUTIL 2.0 Michael Wyrick 109/449
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FIDOUTIL 1.1 85/06 Robert Briggs 15/464
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FIDOXREF (see FILEXREF)
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FILEDATE 1.1 85/12 Bob Hartman 132/101
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FILELIST 1.4 85/11 John Wulff 109/468
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FILER 2.1 85/10 Vincent E. Periello 141/491
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FILESBBS 3.4 85/06 David Strickler 101/45
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FILESPRN 3.1 Vincent E. Periello 141/491
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FILEXREF 1.0 86/04 Bill Becker 16/209
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FIXDNLD 16/42
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FIXUSER Jim Ryan 1/108
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FMA 3.0 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
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FSTAT 1.1 Alfred Anderson 14/61
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GUARDDOG 2.0 86/03 Bill Becker 16/209
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INDX_BBS 1.21 86/01 Rob Barker 138/34
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KILLROBT 2.1 86/02 Stephen Butler 138/3
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LISTGEN 1.05.86 86/01 John Warren 103/401
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LISTUSER 1.0 86/04 David Kaplan 142/387
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LOGFIX
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LOGSPLIT Don Daniels 107/211
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MAILCALL 1.00 Don Daniels 107/211
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MEF 1.0 Wes Cowley 137/19
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MESSAGE 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
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MSGEDIT Don Daniels 107/211
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MSGMOD 1.1 Mike Elkins 103/201
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MSGTOOLS 86/04 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
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MYBBSLBL David Reinsel (?)
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NEWHOST 107/210
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NEWTWIX 106/101
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OUTSIDE 1.27 86/02 Don Daniels 107/211
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PHILTER 107/16
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PIXIE 1.10 86/03 Wes Cowley 137/19
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POLECAT 2.1 86/01 124/20
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PRGUSERS 1.4 86/04 David Horowitz 107/2
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PRIMTIME 1.0 86/03 103/203
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QSCAN 1A 85/04 Kurt Reisler 109/74
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READ
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READMSG 4.1 86/01 Kurt Reisler 109/483
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READMSGS J. Brad Hicks 100/523
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READQUES 1.1f Robert Lederman 16/42
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REMSYSOP 1.3 86/03 Bernie Lawrence 124/3
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RENSYS 85/12 Doug Perkinson 106/102
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RENUM 1.5 85/08 Bob Hartman 132/101
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RESEND 1.1 85/07 Dan Taylor 10/1201
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RESETCOM 106/101
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ROBOMAIL 10x
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ROBOMAIL 11x 85/09
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ROBOT 3.30 85/09 S.E.A. 107/8
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ROBOTMV 107/312
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ROVERMSG 2.16 86/01 Bob Hartman 132/101
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ROVERTWX Oscar Barlow 104/56
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SCHED 2.0 Wes Cowley 137/19
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SENDLIST 1.0 Ben Baker 100/76
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SERVER 1.2 Randy Bush 122/0
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SETUSER 1.0 16/209
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SHIPUSER 2.2 85/05 David Horowitz 107/2
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SHUFFLE 2.00 85/11 Robert Lederman 16/42
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SQLOG 1.0 Jack Liebsch 109/468
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STALLBAT 85/12 Doug Perkinson 106/102
|
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SYSEDIT 1.0 Eric Ewanco 130/3
|
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SYSLOG 5.2 86/03 David Strickler 101/45
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SYSOP
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SYSOP 1.62 David Purks 109/603
|
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SYSOP 1.75 David Purks 107/312
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SYSOP 2.07 Mark W. Buse
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SYSREPT 1.43 Alfred Anderson 14/61
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SYSTRA
|
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SYS_XXX 85/01 Tom Jennings 125/1
|
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TESTLIST 1.2 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
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TIDYFILE 1.00 86/04 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
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TIMECHNG 85/10 David Reinsel 106/343
|
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TIMELOG 8d Tom Jennings 125/1
|
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TIMEMAP Thom Henderson 107/7
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TWIX 3.5 86/02 Ben Baker 100/76
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TWIX 85/09 Tom Jennings 125/1
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UP-DOWN Robert Briggs 15/464
|
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UPLOG 1.1 Robert Briggs 15/464
|
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USER
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USERFILE 1.0 86/02 Allen Miller 108/10
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USERLIST 85/12 Allen Miller 108/10
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USERLIST 1.0 85/07 Ben Baker 100/76
|
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USERLIST 1.0 Jim Ryan 101/14
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USERLOG 106/101
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USERS 1.27 85/06 Thom Henderson 107/7
|
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USERSORT 2.01
|
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USERSORT Bill Jungers 11/407
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USERSORT 1.22 85/12 Lennart Svensson 501/4602
|
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USORT 1.23 86/03 Steven Linhart 107/313
|
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WAIT 1.0 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
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WAITING 1.5 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
|
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WATCH 1.0 85/12 Wes Cowley 137/19
|
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Fidonews Page 8 5 May 1986
|
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|
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WATCHDOG 1.1 84/08 James Reinders
|
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WEEKDAY 1.0 85/11 Ben Baker 100/76
|
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|
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WHATSNEW 1.1 85/11 David Strickler 101/45
|
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|
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WRITEMSG 1.3 Net Systems 115/396
|
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XLATRGEN 1.4 85/12 S.E.A. 107/8
|
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|
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AUTHOR SUMMARY:
|
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|
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Anderson, Alfred SYSREPT
|
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|
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Baker, Ben DAYNBR, EDITNL, EVENT, SENDLIST,
|
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TESTLIST, TWIX, USERLIST, WAIT,
|
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WEEKDAY
|
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|
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Barker, Harold CRUSH
|
|||
|
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Barker, Rob INDX_BBS
|
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|
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Barlow, Oscar ROVERTWX
|
|||
|
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Becker, Bill FILEXREF, GUARDDOG
|
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|
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Black, Jim FASDOC01
|
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|
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Briggs, Robert FIDODISP, FIDOUTIL, UP-DOWN, UPLOG
|
|||
|
|
Buse, Mark W. SYSOP
|
|||
|
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Butler, Stephen KILLROBT
|
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|
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Cowley, Wes DATEFILE, MEF, PIXIE, SCHED, WATCH
|
|||
|
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Daniels, Don EXTRACT, FIDOMSG, LOGSPLIT,
|
|||
|
|
MAILCALL, MSGEDIT, OUTSIDE
|
|||
|
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Elkins, Mike MSGMOD
|
|||
|
|
Ewanco, Eric SYSEDIT
|
|||
|
|
Grahm, Robert COPY_X
|
|||
|
|
Hallett, Richard FIDOKFIX
|
|||
|
|
Hartman, Bob ADDQUOTE, FILEDATE, RENUM, ROVERMSG
|
|||
|
|
Henderson, Thom TIMEMAP, USERS
|
|||
|
|
Hicks, J. Brad DISTRIB, READMSGS
|
|||
|
|
Horowitz, David PRGUSERS, SHIPUSER
|
|||
|
|
Jennings, Tom SYS_XXX, TIMELOG, TWIX
|
|||
|
|
Jungers, Bill USERSORT
|
|||
|
|
Kaplan, David LISTUSER, FIDOSTRT
|
|||
|
|
Klahn, Bob EDIFIDO
|
|||
|
|
Lawrence, Bernie REMSYSOP
|
|||
|
|
Lederman, Robert MESSWAIT, READQUES, SHUFFLE
|
|||
|
|
Liebsch, Jack SQLOG
|
|||
|
|
Linhart, Steven USORT
|
|||
|
|
Micro-Help Inc. BBSSORT
|
|||
|
|
Miller, Allen FIDOMLNK, FIDOUSER, USERFILE,
|
|||
|
|
USERLIST
|
|||
|
|
Morris, Alexander FIDOLIST
|
|||
|
|
Net Systems WRITEMSG
|
|||
|
|
Pacific System Group DAYLIGHT, SERVER
|
|||
|
|
Perkinson, Doug RENSYS, STALLBAT
|
|||
|
|
Periello, Vincent E. FILER, FILESPRN
|
|||
|
|
Polunsky, Richard FIDOREAD
|
|||
|
|
Purks, David SYSOP
|
|||
|
|
Reinders, James WATCHDOG
|
|||
|
|
Reinsel, David FASTV01A, TIMECHNG, MYBBSLBL
|
|||
|
|
Reisler, Kurt QSCAN, READMSG
|
|||
|
|
Rush, Jeff ECHOMAIL, MSGTOOLS, TIDYFILE
|
|||
|
|
Ryan, Jim FIXUSER, USERLIST
|
|||
|
|
Sanborn, Gary ERRORSET
|
|||
|
|
Strickler, David FIDOUTIL, FILESBBS, SYSLOG,
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 9 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
WHATSNEW
|
|||
|
|
Svensson, Lennart USERSORT
|
|||
|
|
Systems Enhancement Assoc. ARC, ROBOT, XLATRGEN
|
|||
|
|
Taylor, Ben RESEND
|
|||
|
|
Wales, Josey CHG2DATE
|
|||
|
|
Walkbro & Kelleher FFM, FMA, MESSAGE, WAITING
|
|||
|
|
Warren, John LISTGEN
|
|||
|
|
Wulff, John FILELIST
|
|||
|
|
Wyrick, Michael FIDOUTIL
|
|||
|
|
Zilmer, Mathew CDMON
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
|||
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|
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|
Fidonews Page 10 5 May 1986
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
COLUMNS
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
User Group Presentations
|
|||
|
|
By
|
|||
|
|
Jim Butterfield
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Most observers classify computer users into three
|
|||
|
|
generation groups: beginners, intermediates and experts. It's a
|
|||
|
|
little like the school grading system. When you have
|
|||
|
|
successfully mastered grade 1, you may move on to grade 2 and so
|
|||
|
|
on.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There's some justification for this scheme. Obviously, a
|
|||
|
|
user must learn fundamentals before proceeding to more complex
|
|||
|
|
areas. If you don't know how to turn the machine on, you can't
|
|||
|
|
run it. The first stages seem quite clear.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
A number of questions arise about such a scheme. Should
|
|||
|
|
the various groups be segregated, so that a beginner may not
|
|||
|
|
participate in "expert" subjects and vice-versa? Should clubs
|
|||
|
|
and user groups promote themselves from beginner clubs to
|
|||
|
|
advanced clubs as members gain experience? And are the lines of
|
|||
|
|
demarcation really that clear?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I can recall being at a TPUG meeting where presentations
|
|||
|
|
were under way. Some presentations are exciting and interesting;
|
|||
|
|
whereas others are ... well, not quite so exciting and
|
|||
|
|
interesting. At the time, a younger member was outlining how to
|
|||
|
|
scratch files. Until just before that time, the poor fellow had
|
|||
|
|
to buy a new disk every time he filled one up; he didn't know how
|
|||
|
|
to remove the files he didn't need any more. To him, the
|
|||
|
|
discovery of the fact that files could be scratched was a
|
|||
|
|
marvellous and novel thing. And perhaps that was true for a few
|
|||
|
|
of the attendees.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was standing near a clever young man who had written a
|
|||
|
|
good number of programs. "I won't come to any more meeting," he
|
|||
|
|
said. "I know all this stuff and these presentations do nothing
|
|||
|
|
for me."
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I didn't know what to reply. Certainly, if he hoped that
|
|||
|
|
every meeting would be on an advanced technical plane, he would
|
|||
|
|
be doomed to disappointment. I wondered: is this the only reason
|
|||
|
|
that members attend meetings? To obtain technical advancement?
|
|||
|
|
Surely there must be other reasons. What about social aspects?
|
|||
|
|
How about swapping notes on the performance of programs and
|
|||
|
|
peripherals? And surely there is pleasure in showing others how
|
|||
|
|
to do something new, even if the information flows only one way.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It seems to me that there will be some members who will
|
|||
|
|
never be satisfied with a program. They want to be entertained
|
|||
|
|
and educated in the same way they would expect if they went to a
|
|||
|
|
movie, theatre or trade school. The fact is that clubs are not
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 11 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
made up of professional entertainers; they use volunteer help and
|
|||
|
|
must do the best they can. The same is true of software
|
|||
|
|
distributed by clubs: most is not professional work but is simply
|
|||
|
|
contributed programs written by members.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There is a need to police presentations (and software),
|
|||
|
|
of course. I'm all in favor of the beginner's "show-and-tell"
|
|||
|
|
presentation. There may be information of interest to others, it
|
|||
|
|
may entertain and it will be good for the member to gain
|
|||
|
|
presentation skills. But there's a limit. A member who has used
|
|||
|
|
the sound features of a computer to make the sound of duck
|
|||
|
|
quacking has a good two-minute presentation to make which will
|
|||
|
|
inform and entertain. A half-hour speech on the same subject
|
|||
|
|
would be tiresome to all ... the presenter would be a dead duck.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Magazines, newsletters and clubs often make a simple
|
|||
|
|
mistake. They think that everyone has been around from the
|
|||
|
|
beginning and remembers everything that has happened. Some of us
|
|||
|
|
start late --magazines have new readers, clubs have new members -
|
|||
|
|
- and don't know things that may have gone before. Some of us
|
|||
|
|
forget. The idea that we never need to repeat a simple concept
|
|||
|
|
but can go on to the next one in sequence can be deadly. One of
|
|||
|
|
the great killer phrases in articles and speeches is: "As you
|
|||
|
|
know ..."
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That's part of the fallacy of "advanced groups." There's
|
|||
|
|
always something simple and apparently obvious that many of the
|
|||
|
|
group members don't know. There's the programmer who writes nice
|
|||
|
|
graphics animations but who has never discovered that holding
|
|||
|
|
down SHIFT and then pressing RETURN takes you to the next line
|
|||
|
|
without "actioning" the previous line on the screen. There's the
|
|||
|
|
student who joins an advance machine language course who knows
|
|||
|
|
how to write a binary multiplication routine but cannot clear the
|
|||
|
|
computer's screen.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I don't mind users grouping together to study advanced
|
|||
|
|
topics -- I'm all in favor of it -- but I hope that no group gets
|
|||
|
|
the idea that "dumb people can't join in." There are beginners
|
|||
|
|
who would like to listen in just to see if they can catch any of
|
|||
|
|
it, or learn a few good buzzwords with which to impress their
|
|||
|
|
friends. Some may want to go to ask advice; for example, what
|
|||
|
|
would be a good study route to catch up with the more advanced
|
|||
|
|
users?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I have this vision of an expert-level group in which most
|
|||
|
|
of the members might be scared to ask a question. After all, it
|
|||
|
|
might be a DUMB question and then they'd be kicked out of the
|
|||
|
|
group?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Personally, I find that others tell me a great deal that
|
|||
|
|
I don't know. I gasp with astonishment when Mike Todd plugs some
|
|||
|
|
custom hardware into a 4040 disk and displays the contents of a
|
|||
|
|
disk track -- every bit mapped out for inspection. I'm amazed
|
|||
|
|
when I get a phone call from Tulsa asking: "How come typing a
|
|||
|
|
line number of 350800 causes the computer to crash?" And I'm
|
|||
|
|
impressed when random POKEing by an English schoolboy turns up
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 12 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
the fact that (on the VIC 20 and Commodore 64) POKE 22,35 causes
|
|||
|
|
programs to list without line numbers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I support the idea of special interest groups -- some of
|
|||
|
|
which have "level" implications. But any club should still
|
|||
|
|
provide a forum for intermingling of users at all levels.
|
|||
|
|
Beginners can ask questions. Experts can show off the knowledge.
|
|||
|
|
People with missions can go after the specific information they
|
|||
|
|
need.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
When you can do it, it'b best to appeal to a cross-
|
|||
|
|
section of levels. Even if you're taling about an elementary
|
|||
|
|
concept, you can often dress it up within an interest program.
|
|||
|
|
Sometimes you can demonstrate the concept in an amusing way.
|
|||
|
|
Remember -- computers are fun! If you have a chance to make a
|
|||
|
|
presentation, try to keep the idea of fun in there somewhere.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Copyright (c) 1984 Jim Butterfield. Permission to reprint is
|
|||
|
|
hereby granted, provided this notice is included in the reprinted
|
|||
|
|
material.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 13 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Notes from Abroad
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I contacted another major UK modem manufacturer since the last
|
|||
|
|
newsletter that firm is called Steebek Systems. If you should
|
|||
|
|
see their adverts for their new "Quattro" modem don't rush out
|
|||
|
|
and buy one. I have had one on test for a couple of weeks now
|
|||
|
|
and it's not much good. It's billed as (Quote) V22bis, V22, V23,
|
|||
|
|
& V21 with auto speed detection and Hayes compatibility. It has
|
|||
|
|
the extended Hayes command set, the one that Tom Jennings gave
|
|||
|
|
such a slagging off in the Hayes 2400. The truth is that it
|
|||
|
|
won't answer at any speed other than 300 (V21) and once connected
|
|||
|
|
it has the annoying (intolerable) habit of dropping the line for
|
|||
|
|
no readily apparent reason. I think it doesn't have enough
|
|||
|
|
filtering on the CD line which causes it to bomb out if there is
|
|||
|
|
any line noise.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It doesn't have speed conversion either (for 1200/75 on IBM) so
|
|||
|
|
thats another problem. I think we have two distinct classes of
|
|||
|
|
modem in the market as potential "Fido Compatible" modems. The
|
|||
|
|
first class I call the "hybrid" smartmodem. The Quattro falls
|
|||
|
|
into this class. I call it "hybrid" because it seems to me that
|
|||
|
|
modems of this type (Case, Racal etc.) are a "pseudo-smartmodem".
|
|||
|
|
I don't think that any so called "smartmodem" should have any
|
|||
|
|
switches on the front panel. The Quattro has six!!! Modems of
|
|||
|
|
this type appear to be a half-hearted attempt to break into the
|
|||
|
|
smartmodem market, they are normally very similar to existing
|
|||
|
|
models and are hoping to capture non-suspecting customers that
|
|||
|
|
"flexibility" means the added confusion of switches to cater for
|
|||
|
|
the customer who hasn't yet adjusted to the "true smartmodem"
|
|||
|
|
concept. I suggest that any so-called smartmodem that has such
|
|||
|
|
attributes should be shunned like the plague. I hope someone can
|
|||
|
|
prove me wrong but I doubt it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The other class is the true smartmodem, ie: Dataflex, Miracle
|
|||
|
|
Technology WS3000. The manufacturers of these modems are
|
|||
|
|
relatively new to the modem scene and don't have to cater to
|
|||
|
|
existing customers requirements. This type of modem is the one
|
|||
|
|
to go for. They are also the ones set to take over in the
|
|||
|
|
relatively new PC marketplace in Europe. Already this modem has
|
|||
|
|
established itself as the only modem to go for in the USA; as is
|
|||
|
|
the practice in Europe; we are in the same position as the USA
|
|||
|
|
was about three years ago.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The "hybrid" modem will probably continue to be bought by the
|
|||
|
|
ignorant and uninformed but the street wise modem buyer will go
|
|||
|
|
for the latter type every time.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 14 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
WANTED
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Doug Boone, 119/447
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Chico is one of those small cities that is 100+ miles away from
|
|||
|
|
the more cosmopolitan computer user areas. One of the drawbacks
|
|||
|
|
of this is that we don't have anywhere near the access to new
|
|||
|
|
Public Domain programs as a lot of you probably do.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
We're looking for Fidos that have rich Atari, Apple, and Tandy
|
|||
|
|
CoCo resources we can tap into somehow. If you feel that the
|
|||
|
|
Fido you are using serves these areas well, will you please do
|
|||
|
|
us a great favor and send a list of files available on your
|
|||
|
|
board and how we can get in touch with you to arrange access to
|
|||
|
|
your favorite Fido or disk trades or Fido Net transfers somehow.
|
|||
|
|
We have a pretty active MS-DOS and CP/M file areas now, although
|
|||
|
|
we'd always be happy to expand, or to send you something.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thanks for your help!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 15 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
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FOR SALE
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ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!
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SUPERDOTS! KALAH!
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Professional quality games include PASCAL source! From the
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author of KALAH Version 1.6, SuperDots, a variation of the
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popular pencil/paper DOTS game, has MAGIC and HIDDEN DOT
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options. KALAH 1.7 is an African strategy game requiring
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skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board. Both games
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use the ANSI Escape sequences provided with the ANSI.SYS
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device driver for the IBM-PC, or built into the firmware on
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the DEC Rainbow. Only $19.95 each or $39.95 for both
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exciting games! Please specify version and disk format.
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These games have been written in standard TURBO-PASCAL and
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run on the IBM-PC, DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
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CPM/86, and PDP-11. Other disk formats are available, but
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minor customization may be required.
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BSS Software
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P.O. Box 3827
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Cherry Hill, NJ 08034
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For every order placed, a donation will be made to the Fido
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coordinators! Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
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and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
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be sent to the coordinators. When you place an order, BE
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CERTAIN TO MENTION WHERE YOU SAW THE AD since it also
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appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.
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Questions and comments can be sent to:
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Brian Sietz at Fido 107/17
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(609) 429-6630 300/1200/2400 baud
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Fidonews Page 16 5 May 1986
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Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!
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Public Domain collection - 300+ "ARC" archives - 10 megs of
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software and other goodies, and that's "archived" size! When
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unpacked, you get approximately 17 megabytes worth of all kinds
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of software, from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
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to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...
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This collection is the result of more than 10 months of intensive
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downloads from just about 100 or more BBS's and other sources,
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all of which have been examined, indexed and archived for your
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convenience. Starting a Bulletin Board System? Want to add on
|
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to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
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is the answer!!!
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To order the library, send $100 (personal or company check,
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postal money order or company purchase order) to:
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Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
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Post Office Box 4296
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200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
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Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296
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Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.
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Note: No profit is made from the sale of the Public Domain
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software in this collection. The price is applied entirely to
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the cost of downloading the software over the phone lines,
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running a BBS to receive file submissions, and inspecting,
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cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files. Obtaining this
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software yourself through the use of a computer with a modem
|
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using commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
|
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we charge for the service...
|
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Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
|
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prepared on. The following choices are available:
|
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|
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IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
|
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Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
|
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DSBackup
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Fastback
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Plain ol' files (add $50, though, it's a lot of
|
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work and takes more diskettes...)
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Add $30 if you want the library on 1.2 meg AT disks (more
|
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expensive disks). There are no shipping or handling charges.
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California residents add 6% tax.
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For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.
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Fidonews Page 17 5 May 1986
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SEAdog Electronic Mail System
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Special Offer for FidoNet Sysops
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System Enhancement Associates, the makers of the popular ARC file
|
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|
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archive utility, are proud to announce the release of the SEAdog
|
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electronic mail system.
|
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|
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SEAdog is a PC-based electronic mail system which is fully
|
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FidoNet compatible. In addition to all the functionality of
|
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FidoNet mail, SEAdog adds the following:
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o User directory support, for automatic lookup of node numbers
|
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o Return receipts
|
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o Audit trails
|
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o Message forwarding, with or without a retained copy
|
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o Twenty four hour mail reception
|
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|
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o High priority mail for immediate delivery
|
|||
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|
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|
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o The ability to request files and updates of files from other
|
|||
|
|
SEAdog systems.
|
|||
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o No route files needed!
|
|||
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|
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|
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o A full screen user interface that our beta test sites fell in
|
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love with!
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
SEAdog is NOT a bulletin board system, but it can be used as a
|
|||
|
|
"front end" for Fido (version 11q or later), allowing you to add
|
|||
|
|
the full functionality of SEAdog to your existing system.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
SEAdog normally sells for $100/node, but for a limited time only
|
|||
|
|
we are offering SEAdog to registered FidoNet sysops for only $50!
|
|||
|
|
Orders may be placed by sending a check or money order to:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
System Enhancement Associates
|
|||
|
|
21 New Street, Wayne NJ 07470
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Or by calling (201) 473-5153 (VISA and MasterCard accepted).
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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Fidonews Page 18 5 May 1986
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|||
|
|
NOTICES
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
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|
|||
|
|
The Interrupt Stack
|
|||
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
19 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
Steve Lemke's next birthday.
|
|||
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|
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|
|
24 Aug 1989
|
|||
|
|
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
|||
|
|
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Gruesome George by Bruce White, 109/612
|
|||
|
|
+-------------------------------------------------+
|
|||
|
|
| 1010 GOSUB 1230 |
|
|||
|
|
| 1020 GOSUB 1750 |
|
|||
|
|
| 1030 GOSUB 2130 |
|
|||
|
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| \ |
|
|||
|
|
|George, why is it you always \ |
|
|||
|
|
|get hungry when you work on \ ____\__ |
|
|||
|
|
|BASIC programming? \ |_| \ |
|
|||
|
|
| / _____ |\ |
|
|||
|
|
|___/ | _ | | |
|
|||
|
|
| ______ | |_| | | |
|
|||
|
|
| __(______)_|_____|___ | |
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| || || | |
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| ______ || || | |
|
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|
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| \ / || || | |
|
|||
|
|
|(c) 1986 bw \__/ ||_________________||__|__|
|
|||
|
|
+-------------------------------------------------+
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
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|
|||
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|
|
|||
|
|
BAVUG I
|
|||
|
|
Fido BBS Net 125 Node 625
|
|||
|
|
Data (415) 635-4747
|
|||
|
|
Hours of Operation Pacific Time
|
|||
|
|
Weekdays 6:00 PM til 6:00 AM
|
|||
|
|
Weekends 24 Hours
|
|||
|
|
Sysop: Franz Hirner
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
BAVUG I is as Fido BBS dedicated to the Victor 9000 Computer
|
|||
|
|
located in Oakland, California. BAVUG has several Victor
|
|||
|
|
specific programs available for download as well as material for
|
|||
|
|
other MS-DOS systems. Also, we are building a reference section
|
|||
|
|
on the Victor 9000 that will be valuable to all Victor users and
|
|||
|
|
programmers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Allen Morris is presently working on a shareware Disk Processor
|
|||
|
|
Fidonews Page 19 5 May 1986
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(defragmenter) for the Victor. The first BETA VERSION is running
|
|||
|
|
(well almost). The IBM version is available now.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Next we would like to develop a program similar to MULTIJOB for
|
|||
|
|
the Victor. Any tips or source for such a program for other
|
|||
|
|
machines would be appreciated.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Come on by, but please after 6:00PM Pacific Time if you are
|
|||
|
|
calling on weekdays.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
|||
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|
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