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Volume 2, Number 44 16 December 1985
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Publisher: Fido 1/1
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Review Editor: Allen Miller
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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Fidonews is published weekly by SEAboard, Fido 1/1. You are
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encouraged to submit articles for publication in Fidonews.
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Article submission standards are contained in the file
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FIDONEWS.DOC, available from Fido 1/1.
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Disclaimer or don't-blame-us:
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them;
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everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
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received.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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Tom Jennings' Trip to Europe
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2. NEWS
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Multilink, JRam Boards, & Fido
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Using the FIDO sysop command `0' on sanyos.
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Introduce Deaf/Blind to Computers
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Free Fidogram Christmas Deadline
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3. COLUMNS
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FidoNet Musings
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Why You Should Use A Retail Store
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Fido with Multilink
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Rainbow Corner
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4. WANTED
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In Search of Rainbow BBS's
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Fido's Wanted- Earn Money!
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5. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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EDITORIAL
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Tom Jennings
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9 Dec 85
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Some interesting things happened to me in the last
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few weeks; the Hobbycomputerclub (HCC) of Holland invited me
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over there to officially open their club-run FidoNet in
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Holland, consisting of some 15 or 16 Fidos. I spent a total
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of 12 days out of the country, visiting England as well.
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There is so much to tell that I don't know where to
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start. I'll first just cover the trip serially, but there is
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also important information about Fido, and BBS's in general,
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in Europe that will have to be covered seperately. I may
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have to leave out important details at first, and get to the
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later. Please bear with me.
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At first I was a bit suprised that a computer club
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could and would afford to fly someone from the U. S. just to
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attend a club show and open a FidoNet network. The real
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suprise was discovering that the HCC has over 25,000
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members, and that their "newsletter" resembles a slightly
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thin issue of Byte magazine! Clubs on this scale just don't
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exist here in the U. S. as far as I know.
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I was greeted at Schipol airport, outside Amsterdam,
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by Henk Wevers, whose house I would be staying at. Henk, as
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it turns out, is a major force behind the Dutch FidoNet, and
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Fido in Europe in general, as well as one of the key people
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in the HCC. Henk also runs a Fido in Ede, which appears in
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the nodelist.
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After recovering from serious jet lag (9 hour clock
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difference plus a 9 hour flight) we headed to the show in
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Utrecht Friday morning. Utrecht is a major city in Holland,
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and a major business center. The show filled a large hall,
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similar to most US convention centers (SF's Civic Center for
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instance) and had about 30,000 attendees on Friday. The Fido
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booths were right at the main entrance; there was a large
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entranceway announcing the HCC show, and Fido was right
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where you went in. Fido had a very large presence, and there
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were a couple of Fidos running demos during the entire two
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day show.
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BBS's are just starting to generate large interest
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amongst hobbiests, because of the modem problem; while we in
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North America have only three universal protocols (Bell
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103A, Bell 212A, and CCITT V.22bis for 2400 baud), in Europe
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there are at least a half dozen incompatible protocols, and
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the North American models are all useless. This subject will
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be covered in detail later.
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There was a tremendous amount of interest in Fido,
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if you had told me beforehand I would not have believed you.
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At a talk given by Henk explaining the HCC's plans for Fidos
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in Holland, and where I answered questions, the room was
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filled to capacity, standing room only. Needless to say, I
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was not prepared for such a response, I'm not used to this!
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There was coverage on national TV, newspapers and radio
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about the show (the HCC is taken very seriously) including
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Fido.
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The next day, Saturday, was similar, but much
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busier. Hectic is not the right word, we literally ran from
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one event to the next for much of the day. The show was
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packed with visitors.
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I guess all computer shows are basically the same,
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no matter where they are held. There was row after row of
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booths, all displaying various products, many small machines
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making noise and playing games, others showing more sedate
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things like monitors for IBM clones, and so on. There was
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also a very large user group presence; anyone familiar with
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the unfortunate recent history of the West Coast Computer
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Faire will appreciate this! The fact that most communication
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is done in Dutch is the first indication that something is
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different, and after looking closely you see that emphasis
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is put on different kinds of products and services.
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The most common machine by far is the Commodore 64.
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While it's a popular machine here, it's nothing compared to
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Holland at least. I saw more add on hardware and software
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that I decided to think about purchasing one for myself.
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CP/M is very popular, mostly a thing called the Amstrad
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(spelling?) which from what I've seen is very nice, color
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graphics and so on, and seems to be high quality.
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On Saturday morning, Pieter van Diepen, the current
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publisher of the HCC magazine, gave me a quick tour of old
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Utrecht. (The part we were in was a typical high tech city,
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with the usual traffic and hotels.) The old city surrounds
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canals, ancient churches (I mean ancient, hard for us
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Yankees to appreciate 600 year old anything), and a
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coffehouse that has been in continuous operation for about
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300 years, where we had coffee, and made us late enough to
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mess up the plans for opening FidoNet on live radio. Sigh.
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I don't remember seeing a single IBM computer; like
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here, most these days are Taiwan clones. The Taiwanese are
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changing the world of computing in ways they may not
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realize; someone like IBM does the large scale design, the
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cloners simplify and improve the design (Faraday, etc) and
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the Taiwanese manufacture them in *huge* quantities, for
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cheap, and all that I've seen are of pretty good quality.
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Even I have one. These are what most European Fidos are
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running on, and I would guess the same is true for North
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America.
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The international sysops meeting was held Saturday
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afternoon. Henk Wevers and other Holland sysops where there,
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plus Frank and Silvia Thornley from England, Martin ? from
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England, Bob ? (sorry for the ?) from Dataflex (a modem
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manufacturer) in London, Arne Asplem and Robert Hercz from
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Norway, and of course me. Helge ? from Sweden had an
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accident and could not make it.
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It was not a big complex affair, mostly just a get
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together, but past experience says that more was
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accomplished than meets the eye. Merely putting names with
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faces does a lot of good. We cleared up some
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misunderstandings about putting the European nodes in the
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Boston net; for example, what we thought was a convenience
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turns out to really make for additional work. Since Fido
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doesnt know about "countries" (yet) they were included in
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the Boston net so that the mail would get routed properly;
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in reality, it makes it extremely difficult to handle mail
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in Europe, as most mail is done via PICKUP and POLL due to
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the lack of autodial modems.
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That night, there was a big banquet for the HCC
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staff that put it all together, we ate too much good food
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and drank real beer, not this "lite" stuff. Pour that stuff
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down the drain!
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The next day, Sunday, Frank, Silvia, Arne, Robert,
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Bob, Martin and I went in two cars to Belgium to take the
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ferry to Dover, and then on to Frank's house in Woking. The
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drive itself was interesting; by the time we made it on to
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the ferry, I had three flavors of money (dollars, guilders,
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pounds), which makes small purchases very interesting until
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you get used to it. Robert and Arne also had German marks,
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and presumably Norwegian money. Welcome to Europe.
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From the ferry we all went directly to Frank's
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house, where we all spent the night. The truly hardcore gang
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(Martin, Bob, Arne and Robert) stayed up all night setting
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up Robert's computer, and playing with Frank's huge
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collection of IBM PC software. Us more rational types went
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to bed.
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For the next few days, we talked about various
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things, Fido of course among them, and Frank gave us the
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grand tour of London and area. It was an excellent tour; it
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would have taken me weeks and weeks of vacationing to hit
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all the spots, if I could have ever found them at all.
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One I would not have found was the pub at Fullers
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brewery. The best bitter beer I ever had, period. Drank a
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fair amount there, took some back with us ... us hardcore
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types drank it and other things, the more rational ones went
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to sleep. Guess who had a hangover. And yes, it was worth
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it.
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For the next three days, four of us traveled around
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London and area, Martin and Bob having gone home. We visited
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Dataflex (makers of addon boards for various computers, and
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soon a Hayes compatible modem).
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On Wednesday, I returned to Holland, and spent three
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days pointlessly wandering around Amsterdam, having a
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wonderful time taking pictures and freezing to death.
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A hint for travelers: the standard travel books
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(Fodors, Baedakers, etc) absolutely refuse to mention the
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weather, with one exception that crammed "average yearly
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temperatures" over much of Europe into one paragraph.
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Europe is miserably cold in the winter. Plan on New
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York City weather. Cold, wet, more cold and wet. It was
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supposedly colder than usual for that time of year. this
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always happens to me; I was in the South West high desert,
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and it rained. I went to Phoenix AZ four years ago, and it
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rained there, too. Maybe it's me.
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On Sunday, I returned to San Francisco, on an eleven
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hour flight; jet lag in this direction isn't too bad,
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relatively speaking.
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I want to thank once again everyone who made my trip
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over pleasant, never mind possible. Henk Wevers and his
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family for making me welcome at their home and to Henk for
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arranging things; Frank Thornley for putting me up at his
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home, and or putting up with all the hackers messing up his
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house, and for the grand tour of London. It was appreciated!
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And of course to the people fo the HCC for their enthusiasm
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for Fido and friendliness.
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The modem situation in Europe is very very different
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than here in N. A. In the U. S., we have the "benefit" of
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having our modem protocols dictated to us by the one time
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telecom monopoly, AT&T. We have the Bell 103A protocol for
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300 baud and less and Bell 212A for 1200 baud. There are and
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were others, of course, but most have thankfully died out;
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Bell 202A is still used by radio amateurs, however, mainly
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for radio use.
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This is not a discussion of technical excellence in
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protocol design; merely observations on practical reality. I
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don't care for the way Bell did their 1200 baud protocol
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either. Anyways ...
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In Europe, however, things are a little different.
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There are at least a half dozen different protocols, most
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defined by the CCITT. (Don't ask ...) The main ones, I
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think, are 300 baud V.21, 1200 baud V.22, 1200/75 Viditel,
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and V.22bis 2400 baud. Modems are very expensive, and there
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doesn't seem to by the hobbiest/microcomputer type array of
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modems we have here.
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While compared to the North American continent
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Europe is physically compact, (it takes 5 hours to fly from
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San Francisco to New York, and somewhat less than that from
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there to Amsterdam) there are many languages in use, most
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incomprehensible to each other. Lucky for us, English is the
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technical language of choice, so Europeans are not as
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intimidated by English as we are (generally) by Dutch,
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French, German, etc.
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I am familiar somewhat with AT&T's policies as to
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making connections to the phone line; I do not know what the
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situation is in countries in Europe, whether it's easy or
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hard, or if it varies from country or not. The PTT seems to
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be everywhere; is it the same across Europe or different all
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over?
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Last, but definitely not least ...
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The person who basically started Fido in Europe was
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Ron Smallwood, in London. He was Fido #33, and first started
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in early 1984. Talk about pioneering ... not too much was
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heard from him over here, due mainly to the incompatibilities,
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the time differences and the expense of overseas phone
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calls. Ron is not running Fidos anymore, but he kept things
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going long enough for others to pick it up. I did not get to
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meet Ron, I ran out of time and had to leave, but I'm sure
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we will meet in the future.
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I'm sure I missed or glossed over many important
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points, if there are any questions or corrections please
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feel free, etc. And thanks once again for everyone involved
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for the very pleasant and informative trip to Europe!
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NEWS
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LET'S GET IN TOUCH!
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Fido is such a great tool. There are now literally hundreds
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of Fido Bulletin Boards across the nation and the inter-
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national list is growing too. These boards provide a rich
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exchange of public domain software, technical questions and
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answers and can also be an interesting social environment.
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In addition to these technically-oriented boards, a number
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of non-techie boards are springing up. They are focused
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around some "special interest." For example, there are a
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number of boards with a medical bent, boards dedicated to
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music and concert reviews, etc. Sometimes these boards are
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not very visible and are hard to find just by browsing the
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board names in the Fido Node List. That is the reason we
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are writing this little public announcement.
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There are a number of boards in the net who have a "special
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interest" in the Gay & Lesbian Community. We'd like to let
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all of our gay brothers and sisters out there know who we
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are. The boards listed below are places that you can get in
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touch with the Gay & Lesbian Community. You can use these
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boards as a social tool and also to read and exchange
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information about current events and issues of importance to
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us all. So give us a call and let's exchange some ASCII!
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Bernal Bears Board San Francisco, CA 125/448
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415-648-3014 1200 24 hrs
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Community News Board Costa Mesa, CA 102/504
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714-631-5859 1200 7pm - 12pm
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Compu Cruise San Jose, CA 143/4
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408-275-9326 1200 24 hrs
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Fidoplex Memphis, TN 123/2
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901-377-8180 2400 8pm - 10am
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Laguna Xroads Laguna Beach, CA 102/522
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714-494-5272 1200 24 hrs
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West Hollywood GBBS West Hollywood, CA 102/112
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213-874-9484 2400 24 hrs
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We've also discovered many gay-empathetic boards, many of
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which have "special interest" sections among the technical!
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Are there any other gay Fido BBSes out there? If so, please
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a Gay Fido Network. In fact the boards in Northern Califor-
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Butch Walker
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10/620
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Multilink, Jram, & Bulletin Boards
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This is more of a request for help than it is an
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article. It seems that I am not the only Sysop having
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trouble with the above combination. I have talked to other
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Sysop's around the country and find that they also have
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problems with Multilink, JRam boards, and Bulletin Board
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software. For whatever reason, our systems will lock or
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crash periodically for no apparent reason.
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successfully without the JRam board. Allen's board (Fido
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108/10) is an example. However it seems that when you add
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the JRam board, whether the JRam AT, or JRam 8, the
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problems start. Neither Tall Trees, nor Software Link are
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much help at solving the problem. I have talked to them
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repeatedly, and Rudy Gordon (Sysop of The Machine) has
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talked to them for the last 4 months.
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The problem is the same whether you run Fido as I do,
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or RBBS as Rudy does. What we need is for anyone that has
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experienced the same problem to get in touch with me.
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Please put out the word to non Fido boards as well. We need
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to put some pressure on the two companies involved to get
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the problem solved. Frankly it makes me mad that I spent
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about $1,000 buying Multilink and the "approved memory
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board" only to have problems that the software company
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doesn't seem to want to correct.
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Just for your information, I am running a IBM AT with
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256k, a JRam AT populated at 2mb with 120ns chips, Hercules
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color card, Princeton HX-12, Seagate 30mb, one USR 2400
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internal, and a Courier 2400 external.
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Please send replies to me, Butch Walker - Sysop TBLUG
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Fido 10/620.
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Fidonews Page 9 16 Dec 1985
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EJ McKernan
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Node 14/386 ... The "Bit Bucket"
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Emporia, KS (316)343-8028
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300/1200/2400 Baud ... 24 Hours/day
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As most of my fellow fidosysops know, fido has the ability
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to allow someone with a SYSOP priv. level to drop to
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dos, execute some code (sysop utilities, edit FILES.BBS,
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ect...) It works great, IF (and this is a big if) one
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is running fido on any machine, except for the sanyo.
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I've often wondered why it was that the sysop 0 command
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croaked on the sanyo and receintly jumped in with debugger
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cocked to see if I could discover what was going on.
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For quite some time I blamed the trouble on Sanyos AUX1.SYS
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driver. Sanyo goofed their first try on the serial port
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device driver and released AUX1 as a replacement driver. It
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seemed to run great if you executed "CTTY AUX" immediatly
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after bootup, but the system locked up if you tried it after
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running fido_syo.exe. Well in looking at the code for fido
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I discovered that the transmitter is disabled in the sanyo's
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serial port when fido exits. One bug down.
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Further looking at FIDO, I discovered that the interupts
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are also disabled (masked out) from the UART. It
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seems that sanyo coded the device driver using a ring
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buffer on the receiver (interupt driven) and polled the
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xmitter if dos needed to transmit anything. Well a quick
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routine to enable the transmitter and turn the interupts
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back on fixed everything.
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If your running fido on a sanyo and would like copies of the
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above mentioned software it's available on my board,
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the Bit Bucket, at 316-343-8028 in the Network file area.
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The file is named SANINTFX.ARC. It contains AUX1.SYS from
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sanyo, my RUNFIDO.BAT file, and SANINTFX.COM the interupt
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patch routine. It also contains a modified version of
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watchdog called WATCHDGS.COM (watch dog sanyo.)
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One other item of note. You can't must remote sanyo from
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a terminal with 8 bits, 1 stop, no parity. Otherwise
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you'll get everything echoed back from DOS but nothing
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will be accepted as valid keystrokes.
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Finally...I can remote sysop my FIDO!
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Fidonews Page 10 16 Dec 1985
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" THE BULLETIN BOARD "
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NET 106 NODE 100
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HOUSTON TEXAS
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SYSOP CARL PIPKIN
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||
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SYSOP CAROLYN PIPKIN
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We are starting a new data base in the Houston area and we
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are asking the help of all Fido Nodes to help me build up my
|
||
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Data Base. We have a lot of programs to offer our users but
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||
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we are going to run short in a little while because of the
|
||
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great response to our system. We are offering programs in a
|
||
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variety of areas. But since the board is up 24 hrs there's
|
||
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not enough time to download programs from other boards to
|
||
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offer first class service to our users. So thats why I am
|
||
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asking the help of all of my fidonet operators to Net Mail
|
||
|
me some Free Ware programs to help build up our Data Base "
|
||
|
THE BULLETIN BOARD" we are on the Fidonet Network as Node
|
||
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100 Net 106 Baud Rate 300 Phone No. 1-713-590-4609 any Free
|
||
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Ware Programs would be greatly appreciated in these areas:
|
||
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|
||
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(1) Word Processing Programs
|
||
|
(2) Utilities Programs
|
||
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(3) Games Programs
|
||
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(4) Spreadsheets Programs
|
||
|
(5) Database Programs
|
||
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(6) Business Programs
|
||
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(7) Communications Programs
|
||
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(8) Artificial Intelligence Programs
|
||
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|
||
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
|
||
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SYSOP CARL PIPKIN
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Fidonews Page 11 16 Dec 1985
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Introduce Special Users to Fido
|
||
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|
||
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If you are like many Fido network users, you probably
|
||
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demonstrate the system to friends and acquaintances who
|
||
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express even the mildest interest. How would you like to
|
||
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show the network to a group of people who could put Fido's
|
||
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potential to maximum use, but may not even know of it's
|
||
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existence? There are approximately 20,000 to 45,000 people in
|
||
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this country who are both deaf and blind. Some of the Deaf
|
||
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Blind are totally deaf and totally blind and special skills in
|
||
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sign language is needed to communicate with them. Others
|
||
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who are "hearing impaired" and blind, can be vocally
|
||
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instructed in the use of computers and can use computers
|
||
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with braille attachments. Still others are deaf and
|
||
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"visually impaired" and can see a CRT well enough to use
|
||
|
the computer. It is for this third group that this article
|
||
|
is written.
|
||
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|
||
|
Ever stop and think how often you use the phone to talk with
|
||
|
friends? Give a thought about someone who can't use the
|
||
|
phone normally and must use a Telecommunication Device for
|
||
|
the Deaf (TDD), a sort of baby computer with one line of
|
||
|
letters that bump across the display, teletype fashion.
|
||
|
Deaf people with normal vision have little trouble with
|
||
|
TDD's but a visually impaired person may have trouble
|
||
|
reading the moving letters due to the speed they move and
|
||
|
the person's restricted field of view. And they can't take
|
||
|
their eyes off the display for an instant without losing
|
||
|
track of what's being said unless they have a TDD model that
|
||
|
also prints paper messages or has a "save" recorder feature
|
||
|
- neither a satisfactory solution for the visually impaired.
|
||
|
In addition they are limited to people who also have a TDD
|
||
|
to talk to; or they must use the services of a volunteer
|
||
|
relay service to get messages to friends without TDD's.
|
||
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|
||
|
How many people do you know have TDD's? How many have
|
||
|
computers? Lots more! So why don't these D/B people use
|
||
|
computers for communication? (just think of the use they
|
||
|
could make of the FidoGram feature.) The problem is
|
||
|
communications itself; someone must "communicate" and
|
||
|
explain the system to them on a "one to one" basis. And
|
||
|
that someone is reading this article right now. OK, you'll
|
||
|
give it a try. Where do we find a D/B person to show Fido
|
||
|
to? They may know even less about you than you know about
|
||
|
them and some of them are actually in hiding from rejection.
|
||
|
Some areas have D/B support groups, often associated with
|
||
|
the American Association for the Deaf Blind (814 Thayer
|
||
|
Ave., Silver Spring MD 20910). Some church and temples have
|
||
|
a "Office for the Deaf". A call to the HELEN KELLER
|
||
|
NATIONAL CENTER, Sands Point, Long Island NY (voice or TDD
|
||
|
516/944-8900) or the HKNC Field Service Supervisor, Dallas
|
||
|
TX (214/630-4936) will get you the name and phone number of
|
||
|
the HKNC district representative who may be able to advise
|
||
|
you about groups to contact with a offer to help. These
|
||
|
groups in turn will see if any of their members are
|
||
|
interested in learning about computer communication.
|
||
|
|
||
|
After you have meet a D/B person, then what? Two rules: (a)
|
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||
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||
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|
||
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|
||
|
Never take the advise of "experts" in D/B rehabilitation as
|
||
|
the last word. Just like computer "experts" they're right
|
||
|
most of the time and wrong just often enough to be human.
|
||
|
(Yes, that includes this article.) (b) ASK. Just that:
|
||
|
Ask! Ask the person you are trying to help how you can
|
||
|
help, communicate with or show something to, how you can
|
||
|
best do it. Each D/B person "see's" a little different and
|
||
|
only he/she - not a expert - can tell you how. For the
|
||
|
first contact, arm yourself with a black ink ballpoint or
|
||
|
felt tip pen and white paper - NOT a pencil and yellow legal
|
||
|
pad. Some visually impaired people need large letters.
|
||
|
Others, due to restricted field of view, read normal size
|
||
|
letters better. All need contrast between words and paper.
|
||
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|
||
|
Write out a short note telling the D/B person your name and
|
||
|
explain your interest in computer communications. Describe
|
||
|
the room the computer is located in before you take them
|
||
|
into it - and be prepared to follow the Blind Persons Rule
|
||
|
of Doors: "All the way Open or All the way Closed!" Clear
|
||
|
the decks of anything bumpintoable. Ask the person if
|
||
|
he/she can lipread; some can if conditions are right. If you
|
||
|
have a mustache or are in a dimly lit room conditions are
|
||
|
not right. And few D/B's can read smoke signals if you talk
|
||
|
with a pipe in your mouth.
|
||
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|
||
|
Keep in mind that the D/B person can't look at you and the
|
||
|
screen or keyboard at the same time so you can't "back seat
|
||
|
drive" him/her thru Fidoland. Since you will have to give
|
||
|
them a chance to become familiar with the CRT display, it
|
||
|
would probably be best to put a text file on screen first to
|
||
|
see how well they can read it. I'd suggest letting them
|
||
|
read the Fido USERSMAN.UAL on screen first; this will save
|
||
|
you the trouble of explaining how the system works and find
|
||
|
out how well they can see the screen. Depending on their
|
||
|
individual eyesight condition, some will do well with the
|
||
|
standard size screen. Others will need larger size
|
||
|
characters or a larger screen. Still others will be most
|
||
|
comfortable reading small, sharp characters on a small
|
||
|
screen like the Kaypro 2-84 / 4-84 or Radio Shack TRS-80 /4P
|
||
|
(the portable model). LCD displays usually do not have
|
||
|
enough contrast for a visually handicapped person to read.
|
||
|
This will probably be the most important part of the project
|
||
|
and will require some patience to help the person read the
|
||
|
screen comfortably. If you have a file containing a logon
|
||
|
of a fido node that you captured on disk, put it on the
|
||
|
screen so the person can become familiar with the menus
|
||
|
while they "hold still". Remember that the person may not
|
||
|
be able to see the entire screen at the same time and will
|
||
|
"scan" it by sections. (They may also need time to scan the
|
||
|
room and the parts of the computer so don't start this
|
||
|
project when your pressed for time.)
|
||
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|
||
|
Most D/B's will have some typing ability from using a TDD
|
||
|
but will need a little time to adapt to the new keyboard.
|
||
|
Some use Hi Marks (a red cement for the blind) to make small
|
||
|
"bumps" on the right edge of the "F" and the left edge of
|
||
|
the "J" keys. You might place a thin strip of masking tape
|
||
|
on the edge of these keys to make locating them easier. The
|
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||
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||
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|
||
|
concept of commands may be new to them and you may have to
|
||
|
explain, for example that typing "M" at a menu will either
|
||
|
get you into the Msg. section or back into Main Menu
|
||
|
depending on where it's typed from. Another concept you may
|
||
|
have to explain is the password security procedure.
|
||
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|
||
|
When you're sure the D/B person can use the screen and
|
||
|
understands what's going to happen then it's time to go
|
||
|
online. Dial up your favorite Fido node and let the person
|
||
|
watch you "read the mail". Use 300 baud the first time
|
||
|
(even if you have a capture buffer on) as 1200 may be too
|
||
|
fast for some people to follow. And if your running on
|
||
|
"Expert" mode, you might drop back into "Novice" with "M)ore
|
||
|
On" for this project. Then give your D/B person a chance to
|
||
|
try it him/her self and browse through a message or text file
|
||
|
area. If you have a Sysop in your area who's always read to
|
||
|
chat at the touch of a Y)ell key, give the D/B person a
|
||
|
chance to "talk" to him/her as this "one to one" feature may
|
||
|
be important; they will be comparing it to the TDD. (Best
|
||
|
to make advance arrangements with the Sysop.) Be sure to
|
||
|
explain that many Sysop's are not usually available.
|
||
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|
||
|
In addition to message posting and retrieval, explain the
|
||
|
Fido ham telegram setup and it's restrictions (especially
|
||
|
msg length). If they have out of state friends, and no one
|
||
|
to make calls for them, this feature will be important.
|
||
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|
||
|
And finally, be prepared with some realistic information if
|
||
|
he/she asks about buying his/her own computer, including
|
||
|
pricing information. Keep in mind that the least expensive
|
||
|
system may not be suitable for a handicapped person. Few
|
||
|
blind people can comfortably read a Radio Shack 100. A
|
||
|
person who can't hear a dial tone will want a Auto-Dial
|
||
|
modem. The ability of the computer to run a program with a
|
||
|
text file download capture buffer is almost a must for
|
||
|
someone who can't read a screen quickly; they can always
|
||
|
grab all the messages and exit the board to read them, then
|
||
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return to post answers to messages.
|
||
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|
||
|
Showing a deaf, partly blind person the Fido network may
|
||
|
take time and patience and you will have to reexamine some
|
||
|
of the things you take for granted. But for a D/B persons
|
||
|
with few communication options, you will be opening the
|
||
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world for them.
|
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Stu Turk (User, Fido 129/13 or 129/384)
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Fidonews Page 14 16 Dec 1985
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
|
||
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: :
|
||
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:FREE CHRISTMAS FIDOGRAM DEADLINE:
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: :
|
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The deadline for free Christmas Fidograms to arrive at
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101/105 is December 20th. this should give our packet
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switching systems and other network sufficient time to
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route your messages.
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What are Fidograms, you say? Egads! - We've accepted
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Fidograms all the way from Sweden, Alberta and Holland,
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bound for every which way, and you don't even know about
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them yet? Sheesh...
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OK - a brief recap. Fidograms are your way of sending free
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personal telegrams to almost anyone in the USA who has
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access to a voice telephone. Just like Western Union. You
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provide us with your complete name, address and fone number,
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as well as the same complete data for the addressee of the
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Fidogram. Naturally, you want to provide us with the text
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of the Fidogram (20 words, more or less max), and a
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signature. That's it - we take it from there.
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Your Fidograms are routed from Fido 101/105 via Amateur
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Packet Radio at 1200 bauds into our networks, and are
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relayed by radio across town, or across the country until
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they reach the city of ultimate destination, at which point
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they are telephoned to the addressee.
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There are no limits to the number of Free Fidograms that you
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can send, but there ARE limits as to the contents. Nothing
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related to business or the making of profit to any persons
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may be contained in a Fidogram.
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You can send Fidograms to certain countries overseas, but
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only those whose governments have the necessary agreements
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with our government. Those that do include Canada, Mexico
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and many central and south American countries, but virtually
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none in Europe. If your local Fido does not yet have the
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file describing Fidograms, contact me at 101/105 and I'll
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try to get it to you.
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One more reminder - college and University Fidos should
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consider "advertising" free Fidograms during the week
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preceding Valentine's day. Terminals placed in college
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cafeterias usually net us several thousand Fidograms each
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year - bundles of fun! Enjoy.
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COLUMNS
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FidoNet Musings
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by Ben Baker - 100/76
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Thom has asked me if I would do a regular (or at least
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semiregular) column for the newsletter. It is with some
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misgivings that I undertake this venture. I enjoy writing
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on occasion when the mood strikes me, but the thought of a
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weekly deadline is very unsettling. My wife is the
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journalist in the family. Several years ago she worked for
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a chain of local newspapers and did a weekly column which
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appeared in several of them. I can still remember the days
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she would sit dowm at the typewriter with a blank page and
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nothing to say. At those times even the cats tip-toed
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around the house!
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Thom has given me no guidance as to format or content.
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I interpret this as having a good deal of latitude, and I
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shall make the most of it as I meander from subject to
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subject.
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It is incredible to me that Fido was conceived only two
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years ago this month, the brain-child of Tom Jennings and
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John Madill. I first became involved when I put up version
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4 in March of 84 and was "officially listed" as Fido # 10 in
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April.
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Those were the days of at least three new software
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releases a week. I can recall at least one occasion when
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two new versions were released the same day, only hours
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apart. I had considered doing an "early history" piece for
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this first column, but things happened so fast and furious
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that, on reflection, it's all a blur!
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Unfortunately, none of us kept a journal (how could we
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know we were making history) and Fido's early history can,
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at best, only be approximated. I'm not sure how the idea of
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"the network" got started. I recall a telephone
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conversation or two with TJ in which he talked about the
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concept in abstract terms. "I have no intention of doing
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it, but wouldn't it be neat if. . ." Within a week, we had
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version 6 and FidoNet was born! I think that may have been
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June.
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I think the phrase "Wouldn't it be neat if. . ." is
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as responsible as anything for many of Fido's features. Of
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course, each new feature usually broke two or three old
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features and could be counted on to supply at least four new
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releases.
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Not all the features this phrase spawned were
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necessarily good. I remember when TJ added "broadcast" to
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FidoNet. The first version of this feature had an
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interesting bug. Whenever Fido received a broadcast
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message, it would rebroadcast it. Sort of an automated
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electronic chain letter. A single message could have, in a
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week's time, choked the network! We never did get the
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feature to work properly, and when we passed through about
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forty nodes on the net, we decided we didn't want it to work
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right and it was removed.
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Our early node lists were, at best, only about seventy
|
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percent accurate. I recall two weeks of trying unsuccess-
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fully to send a message to a new node in Texas. Finally I
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dialed the number one day and a mechanical operator informed
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me "The number you have dialed has been changed. The new
|
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number is. . ." A call to the new number connected me with
|
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a real person. When I told her that my information was that
|
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an electronic bulletin board was supposed to answer the
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first number, she explained that the board was her son's.
|
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He had accidently reversed his voice and board numbers in
|
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his request for a node number. After several nights of
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being awakened out of a sound sleep by incessant phone
|
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jangling between three and four am., they had changed their
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number.
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Anecdotes abound, but my wife tells me a column
|
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shouldn't be too long. (I think she wants to limit the
|
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amount of proof reading sne has to do.) I would like to hear
|
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from you with suggestions for future topics, questions about
|
||
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FidoNet, whatever. Send FidoNet mail to 100/76. I will try
|
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to respond directly to all messages, and some with broad
|
||
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general interest I will share with you here.
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Fidonews Page 17 16 Dec 1985
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||
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Why You Should Use A Retail Store
|
||
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|
||
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By Robert Bova
|
||
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President, MicroAge-Downtown Computer Store
|
||
|
Lexington, Kentucky
|
||
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|
||
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Nowadays you can buy a computer from almost anybody.
|
||
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Toy stores, discount stores and by mail-order.
|
||
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|
||
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But from most of these "computer stores" all you get
|
||
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is a computer or some software which may or may not run in
|
||
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your computer.
|
||
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|
||
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You get very little, if any, help in figuring out
|
||
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how to connect the cables or learning how to use the
|
||
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machine.
|
||
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|
||
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After all, how do you get training by mail-order?
|
||
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|
||
|
But if you purchase a computer from a good retail
|
||
|
computer store (and the key is finding a good computer
|
||
|
retailer), you get more than just hardware and software --
|
||
|
you get a human being, one who will spend the time necessary
|
||
|
to teach you how to use your computer.
|
||
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|
||
|
This is called SUPPORT.
|
||
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|
||
|
Support takes many forms. Not the least is the skill
|
||
|
your sales representative has in guiding you in your
|
||
|
purchase of equipment and software.
|
||
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|
||
|
True, no computer store can carry everything and
|
||
|
every brand, but today's retail computer store sales
|
||
|
representative generally has a wide selection of computer
|
||
|
brands and software from which to choose.
|
||
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|
||
|
If the salesperson (who should really be more than a
|
||
|
salesperson, but a guide in the often confusing world of
|
||
|
computer hype) is doing his job, he or she can size up your
|
||
|
requirements for computer power.
|
||
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|
||
|
Often a good computer salesperson will determine a
|
||
|
client's needs would best be served by a less-expensive
|
||
|
computer configuration. In many ways, today's professional
|
||
|
computer salesperson is a consultant to the purchaser's
|
||
|
business, rather than just someone trying to sell as much as
|
||
|
possible to the customer.
|
||
|
|
||
|
That isn't always the case, but new professionalism
|
||
|
has come to computer retailers. It had to happen since we
|
||
|
all want your repeat business.
|
||
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|
||
|
A good computer dealer will follow up the sale with
|
||
|
effective and comprehensive training. He'll pre-test your
|
||
|
computer at his shop, install it and then re-check it at
|
||
|
your location. Plus he'll train you and your employees in
|
||
|
its every function.
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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Fidonews Page 18 16 Dec 1985
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
From hardware to software, you should know your
|
||
|
computer and its uses after the dealer has completed his
|
||
|
initial installation.
|
||
|
|
||
|
The job isn't done here. A good dealer will stay
|
||
|
with you until you are confident that you can make your new
|
||
|
computer an invaluable asset. Then he'll provide follow-up
|
||
|
support, maintenance and the consultation required to insure
|
||
|
your success.
|
||
|
|
||
|
A good dealer will make available to you reliable,
|
||
|
tried and tested hardware and software, all sized and priced
|
||
|
to fit your present requirements, but with the ability to
|
||
|
grow as your needs expand.
|
||
|
|
||
|
And, more importantly, the dealer makes sure you'll
|
||
|
never be alone in your computer needs.
|
||
|
|
||
|
A local computer retailer provides conveience as
|
||
|
well. The store is nearby and you can usually test software
|
||
|
and hardware in the store to get a feel for how it works. No
|
||
|
ad, no matter how flashy, in a magazine can give you the
|
||
|
feel of "hands-on" experience.
|
||
|
|
||
|
And you know that if you have a problem after the
|
||
|
sale, your local computer dealer is just going to be a local
|
||
|
phone call away for aid and comfort. If it isn't a sale,
|
||
|
those folks with the 800 numbers in California that sell at
|
||
|
a discount, don't want to hear from you at their expense.
|
||
|
|
||
|
My advice? Find a consultant you feel comfortable
|
||
|
working with at a local computer store. Explain your
|
||
|
computer needs with him or her, then give the salesperson a
|
||
|
chance to evaluate your situation and make recommendations.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Then expect your consultant to follow through with
|
||
|
support, that magic word, which should lead to satisfaction.
|
||
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|
||
|
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|
||
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Fidonews Page 19 16 Dec 1985
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
Allen Miller 108/10
|
||
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|
||
|
Fido with Multilink
|
||
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|
||
|
|
||
|
I would like to find out how many of you are running
|
||
|
Fido along with Multilink multitasking software. If you
|
||
|
are, or know of another Fido system that is, please send me
|
||
|
a message letting me know the name of the system running
|
||
|
Multilink (to Fido 108/10 @ 513/579-2587).
|
||
|
|
||
|
One consequence, that I have found, of running Fido with
|
||
|
Multilink is that the elapsed time computation that Fido
|
||
|
does is off by a factor of 2 (2 if you run 2 Multilink
|
||
|
partitions). This means that if you set your session time
|
||
|
limit at 60 minutes, a user is really allowed to be on for
|
||
|
120 minutes. You can compensate for this by changing your
|
||
|
time limit parameter to 30 if you really want to have people
|
||
|
able to stay on for 60 minutes. The catch is in the file
|
||
|
trans-fer transaction. If a user wants to download a file
|
||
|
that would take 35 (real) minutes, Fido says that there is
|
||
|
not enough time remaining even though your intention was to
|
||
|
permit 60 minutes of wall time.
|
||
|
|
||
|
A friend of mine is writing a program to work in
|
||
|
conjunction with Fido & Multilink to correct for this
|
||
|
elapsed time distortion. Part of the reason for this
|
||
|
solicitation is to evaluate the usefulness of this program
|
||
|
to a wider audience. Once again, please let me know of any
|
||
|
Fido systems that are running with Multilink.
|
||
|
|
||
|
Regards,
|
||
|
Allen
|
||
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|
||
|
12/08/85
|
||
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Fidonews Page 20 16 Dec 1985
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||
|
Rainbow Corner
|
||
|
by Theodore Needleman
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
Welcome to Rainbow Corner. I'd like to introduce myself.
|
||
|
I'm the guy from Business Software Beat. So much for
|
||
|
introductions. What is "Rainbow Corner"? My hope is that
|
||
|
it is someplace where friends will gather to talk about the
|
||
|
DEC Rainbow. What hardware is available from DEC and other
|
||
|
vendors to enhance it? How about software - how can we
|
||
|
accomplish what we want to?
|
||
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|
||
|
The "Corner" was created because of requests from you, our
|
||
|
readers, for more coverage and information on the micro side
|
||
|
of the street. (Our Editor: "Hello Ted - Our readers are
|
||
|
asking for more micro coverage, so we're adding a Rainbow
|
||
|
column. Want to write it?" ME: "Well...Ah...Um...Sure!")
|
||
|
The column comes at an auspicious time. Last week (this is
|
||
|
being written in mid February) DEC announced it is switching
|
||
|
the plant used for production of Rainbows over to the
|
||
|
production of "OTHER SYSTEMS". Rumors abound. My local
|
||
|
Digital Systems Center is claiming that production of the
|
||
|
Rainbow is being moved to Hong Kong. Other sources say that
|
||
|
the Rainbow 100 series is dead - when (and if) production
|
||
|
starts up again, it will be of a new model. I've heard
|
||
|
rumors of a completely IBM-PC compatible Rainbow, and of a
|
||
|
lap-top Rainbow. Someone has even suggested to me that DEC
|
||
|
will be coming out with a coprocessor system that will run
|
||
|
both VAX and MS-DOS. Are any of these rumors true? Who
|
||
|
knows? Only DEC, and they're not saying!
|
||
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|
||
|
In any case, there's no reason to feel abandoned. In the
|
||
|
coming weeks Rainbow Corner will review hardware add-ons
|
||
|
that will make your system more powerful. Numerous requests
|
||
|
for review software have gone out, and some very interesting
|
||
|
packages have already started to arrive.
|
||
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|
||
|
One last point before we move on to other business. The
|
||
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"Corner" exists as a place to share information. If there
|
||
|
is something you are particularly interested in, drop me a
|
||
|
line and I'll try to cover it. The same offer goes for your
|
||
|
questions. If I don't have (or can't find) an answer, maybe
|
||
|
another reader will be able to help. The Rainbow is a well
|
||
|
designed and engineered computer. Its biggest defect seems
|
||
|
to be the dearth of information available about it.
|
||
|
Hopefully, the "Rainbow Corner" will help fill the void.
|
||
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|
||
|
Before I close this week's column, I'd like to briefly
|
||
|
discuss an interesting piece of software that came across my
|
||
|
desk recently. As most of you no doubt know, the "Print
|
||
|
Screen" key works only when you are in "Terminal" Mode.
|
||
|
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to accomplish a screen dump
|
||
|
at other times? An inexpensive ($39.95) utility called
|
||
|
"PRINT-SCREEN" from Micro Resources Inc., (154 Needam
|
||
|
Street, Newton, MA., 02164, phone 617/965-2890) gives you
|
||
|
this capability with CP/M-86/80 (versions 1 & 2) and MS-DOS
|
||
|
(versions 2.01 & 2.05). It has a few limitations, such as
|
||
|
not being able to print graphics screens or the Set-up mode
|
||
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|
||
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Fidonews Page 21 16 Dec 1985
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||
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||
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||
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|
||
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|
||
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screen, but for the price, it is a worthwhile addition to
|
||
|
your utility library.
|
||
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|
||
|
That's it for now. See you next issue.
|
||
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|
||
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SF PC LUG, CAMPPUS, Scherer's, DEC MARKET, DEC PDL, Latin
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The Interrupt Stack
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Voyager 2 passes Uranus.
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