textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1989/891023.ch

CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
10/23/89 00:08:05

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Prev. call 10/19/89 @ 06:10, next msg was 42641
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   7 
KILLED.  99 
SUMMARY.  25 
WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42641 10/19/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MIKE LADA: "R/PRODIGY"
42642 10/19/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PC: COPY NAME1+NAME2"
type log;or;*;short

E#42642,3
10/19/89,15:13:11,209628,1,HERTHA PROESSNER,,11
10/19/89,15:26:02,209629,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
10/19/89,17:47:55,209630,1,THORBJOERN LIELL,,10
10/19/89,18:10:42,209631,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,2
10/19/89,18:43:17,209632,2,PHIL JERN,,3
10/19/89,18:48:12,209633,1,MARTIN SCHRADER,,6
]Hey, um, Ward, et al...how about putting a little effort into the appearance
of the help screens?  I don't mean get carried away w/overlapping windows
and fluff like that (as seen on some boards), but a little cleanup
is in order.  Need someone to come over and do it?

B C'ing U...
MARTIN SCHRADER,
10/19/89,20:06:54,209634,2,JOHN COOPER,,2
10/19/89,20:10:02,209635,1,KEVIN KEYSER,,2
10/19/89,20:27:07,209636,2,MIKE COOK,,10
]MIKE COOK,
10/19/89,20:42:16,209637,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,
E#42643,
E#42644,
E#42645,30
]Thanks for keeping this system up.  The discussion of prodigy was
quite interesting.  I agree with you;  just watching the demo drove
me batty!
BENJAMIN COHEN,
10/19/89,21:20:28,209638,1,JEF FITCH,,19
10/19/89,21:43:09,209639,2,JEANNE KRAUSE,,2
10/19/89,22:01:03,209640,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,2
10/19/89,22:07:54,209641,2,BILL MATTSON,,5
10/19/89,22:45:22,209642,1,MIKE STEVENS,rolling meadows,
10/19/89,23:29:20,209643,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
10/19/89,23:35:00,209644,2,THOM QUICK,,1
10/19/89,23:36:16,209645,2,THOM QUICK,,1
10/19/89,23:41:45,209646,1,ALEX ZELL,,3
]So what's his beef? Help is still as good as it always was.
All the keywords and clear explanations are in place.
Guess ya can't please everybody, and there's no point in
trying.
ALEX ZELL,
10/20/89,00:54:28,209647,1,BEN TEIFELD,,10
10/20/89,01:43:43,209648,1,MIKE SMITH,vancouver/ canada,4
10/20/89,01:55:07,209649,3,JOHN WILKERSON,,2
10/20/89,05:41:24,209650,2,PETE JONES,,1
10/20/89,06:22:13,209651,2,BOB GORDON,chicago/illinois,15
10/20/89,07:43:33,209652,2,JACK HOMA,,2
10/20/89,08:47:16,209653,2,CHRIS STOMPOR,,8
10/20/89,10:30:07,209654,2,RICK MILLS,,3
10/20/89,10:48:01,209655,2,DON PIVEN,,2
10/20/89,10:51:11,209656,1,JIM EGAN,,6
10/20/89,12:08:16,209657,2,ANTHONY MURPH,Evanston/ Il,3
10/20/89,12:10:59,209658,2,ANTHONY MURPH,,
>Help: Y,
10/20/89,12:24:18,209659,2,CHUCK SAMEK,,2
]CHUCK SAMEK,
10/20/89,14:17:40,209660,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3
10/20/89,15:54:39,209661,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,,
E#42646,16
10/20/89,16:23:12,209662,1,LANE LARRISON,,0
10/20/89,16:35:48,209663,2,BILL WOLFF,,5
10/20/89,16:45:25,209664,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
E#42647,1
10/20/89,17:07:12,209665,1,MIKE ODAY,CHICAGO/IL,
10/20/89,19:45:49,209666,1,CHARLES ZACEK,,3
10/20/89,20:14:42,209667,1,BILL WOLFF,,
>Help: HELP R,15
10/20/89,20:43:05,209668,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
E#42648,4
10/20/89,20:50:52,209669,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
10/20/89,21:47:09,209670,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
10/20/89,21:50:44,209671,1,MICHAEL BLAKE,,1
10/20/89,22:13:29,209672,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
10/20/89,23:17:13,209673,3,PIERRE FRANCOIS,,
10/20/89,23:51:49,209674,2,ALEX ZELL,,
E#42649,
E#42650,
10/21/89,00:12:55,209675,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,8
10/21/89,00:57:28,209676,1,WALLY GLAB,chi/ill,18
10/21/89,06:02:48,209677,2,ELRICK WILLIAMS,chicago/il,3
10/21/89,07:21:14,209678,1,RICH WYATT,Skokie,23
10/21/89,08:29:18,209679,2,ALEX ZELL,,1
10/21/89,08:56:22,209680,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
10/21/89,09:15:51,209681,2,EARL HALL,,4
10/21/89,09:36:37,209682,2,MARK WEHMHOEFER,chicago/il,4
10/21/89,15:03:01,209683,3,KURT TUSK,+++3,
10/21/89,15:09:31,209683,2,LUCAS ADAMSKI,,3
10/21/89,15:15:38,209684,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,1
10/21/89,15:31:38,209685,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
10/21/89,15:47:47,209686,3,ED FANTA,,4
10/21/89,16:04:49,209687,2,STEVE COHEN,,11
10/21/89,16:53:30,209688,1,BILL BILL,CRYSTAL LAKE IL.,
]CHAT: CHAT,
>Help: PHONE LIST,
>Help: LIST,
10/21/89,17:23:36,209689,1,JOHN RIORDAN,chicago IL,3
10/21/89,18:55:24,209690,1,NICK TALLYN,,
E#42651,
10/21/89,19:25:59,209691,1,MICHAEL SKURLA,,1
10/21/89,19:29:13,209692,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
]K,42614,RICHARD GOZDAL, 5
10/21/89,20:07:07,209693,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,,
E#42652,4
10/21/89,20:37:19,209694,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#42653,7
10/21/89,21:53:24,209695,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,5
10/21/89,22:29:38,209696,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
10/21/89,22:35:22,209697,2,JIM SACKETT,,7
10/21/89,23:23:37,209698,2,Q Q,Q,
10/21/89,23:35:57,209699,2,BILL WOLFF,,1
10/22/89,01:35:43,209700,2,BILL MATTSON,,4
10/22/89,03:05:36,209701,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
10/22/89,06:48:37,209702,2,ALEX ZELL,,
10/22/89,09:34:35,209703,1,ZASHA MICHEL,Chicago,
E#42654,7
10/22/89,10:10:50,209704,2,EDGAR COUDAL,,4
10/22/89,10:44:12,209705,1,DON COOK,Schuyler/ NE,9
10/22/89,11:59:48,209706,3,KURT TUSK,,
]CHAT: ibm pc,81
10/22/89,12:46:34,209707,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
10/22/89,12:53:56,209708,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,10
10/22/89,14:58:20,209709,1,PAULO CESAR,sao paulo,2
10/22/89,15:20:17,209710,1,SONNY HAASE,,1
10/22/89,16:03:08,209711,2,ALAN SAHAKIAN,Northbrook/IL,9
10/22/89,16:20:19,209712,2,JAY SORENSON,Racine/Wi,3
10/22/89,16:22:28,209713,2,JAY SORENSON,,8
10/22/89,16:33:59,209714,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,3
10/22/89,16:47:33,209715,2,JAY SORENSON,,1
10/22/89,17:03:40,209716,2,ALAN SAHAKIAN,,5
10/22/89,17:15:58,209717,1,CHUCK ANSELMO,CHICAGO/ IL.,5
10/22/89,18:44:10,209718,1,RICHARD WARD,CHICAGO/ ILLINOIS,27
10/22/89,19:16:36,209719,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1
10/22/89,19:32:38,209720,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
10/22/89,19:50:21,209721,2,CHRIS STOMPOR,,4
10/22/89,20:12:54,209722,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,3
10/22/89,20:23:34,209723,2,EMORY SMITH,Memphis/ TN,7
10/22/89,20:51:29,209724,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
]K,42614,RICHARD GOZDAL, 
]K,42634,RICHARD GOZDAL, 3
10/22/89,21:03:14,209725,3,JIM COLLING,,12
10/22/89,22:07:22,209726,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#42655,11
10/22/89,22:33:45,209727,2,JOHN PASIK,chicago/il,12
10/22/89,22:55:34,209728,3,MIKE DAWSON,chgo,9
10/22/89,23:06:29,209729,3,MIKE DAWSON,,
E#42656,24
10/22/89,23:37:01,209730,2,ED FOSTER,,2
10/22/89,23:54:23,209731,2,BILL MATTSON,,
E#42657,10
10/23/89,00:08:08,209732,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42641 10/19/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MIKE LADA: "R/PRODIGY"
42642 10/19/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PC: COPY NAME1+NAME2"
42643 10/19/89 BENJAMIN COHEN => RICHARD HINTON: "R/PRODIGY"
42644 10/19/89 BENJAMIN COHEN => BILL WOLFF: "R/PRODIGY NUMBERS."
42645 10/19/89 BENJAMIN COHEN => PHIL JERN: "R/HP LASERJET 4 SALE"
42646 10/20/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "# FOR PLANTZ BBS"
42647X 10/20/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "EGA WANTED"
42648 10/20/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "AT EMS HELP"
42649X 10/20/89 ALEX ZELL => COLIN SCHROEDER: "PLANTZ BBS"
42650 10/20/89 ALEX ZELL => COLIN SCHROEDER: "PLANTZ BBS"
42651 10/21/89 NICK TALLYN => ALL: "ORCA & APW"
42652 10/21/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => ALEX ZELL: "R/PLANTZ BBS"
42653 10/21/89 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD: "GREETINGS."
42654 10/22/89 ZASHA MICHEL => ALL: "MEMORY BOARD"
42655 10/22/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "PRODIGY HITS 100/000 STRONG!"
42656 10/22/89 MIKE DAWSON => ALL: "HELLO"
42657 10/22/89 BILL MATTSON => BILL WOLFF: "R/PRODIGY HITS 100/000 STRONG!"

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Msg 42641 is 03 line(s) on 10/19/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MIKE LADA re: R/PRODIGY

You said "No luck in uploading or downloading large files". Huh? This
is the FIRST time I've seen those words with respect to Prodigy. I didn't
know Prodigy HAD file UL/DL!

Msg 42642 is 08 line(s) on 10/19/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: PC: COPY NAME1+NAME2

Didja know you can append one file to another? For example, on CBBS I
append the current LOG file to the monthly log file (due to a bug in the
8080 emulator we're running, it adds a bunch of garbage (without losing
data) to the log file if it gets > 15K).
 copy L8910+log
 del log
This results in L8910 (the october 89 log file) having the latest log file
appended to it! Pretty slick. Sure surprised me that this works!

Msg 42643 is 09 line(s) on 10/19/89 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/PRODIGY

BS. Prodige has been here since August. They have about 12 numbers, from
far south to far north to far west. There are SOME holes, so only about
80da [~s
80 percent of th efolk in the narea will be within a nickel call. There
are some demographic biases agains zip code areas with lower income levels.

Frankly I don't like the slooooooow screen writes that I saw at a demo,
but if you have a group that needs a lot of e-mail the 9.95 a month flat
rate could be a bargain (if you don't count your time as having any value.)

Msg 42644 is 23 line(s) on 10/19/89 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to BILL WOLFF re: R/PRODIGY NUMBERS.

Due to Par Demand;
Downers Grove 515-8172
Geneva 232-9496
Joliet 744-7931 (area 815)
Maywood 547-1033
Chicago -N 404-0240
Libertyville 816-4851
Elk Grove/Chicago (????) 437-0213
 This is a funny designation. IBTCo says 437 will be in
 ea 708 come 11/11/89, so it ain't really Chicago.
Dundee 428-0061
Homewood 957-8016
Oak Lawn 499-0048
Northbrook 205-9200
Lake Zurich 438-1132

All are area 312 except as indicated Joliet is 815; come 11/11/89
all but the 404-0240 number will be area 708 (that is all the 312
numbers.) That's all the Prodigy Numbers in the area.

P.S. Watch the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin (huh? - there's a PC
column) next Wednesday for a free Prodigy offer (hint, hint, free
software and a month free usage).

Msg 42645 is 01 line(s) on 10/19/89 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to PHIL JERN re: R/HP LASERJET 4 SALE

Give me a call. 726-3555, days.

Msg 42646 is 06 line(s) on 10/20/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: # FOR PLANTZ BBS

Ward, I've seen Plantz's BBS mentioned in a bulletin or two, and
would like to check it out. I didn't find the # in the BBS
listing here-could you drop a msg. with the # for me? I'd very
much appreciate it!

Colin
No msg 42647

Msg 42648 is 06 line(s) on 10/20/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL
to ALL re: AT EMS HELP

 I need info on AT EMS. A guy has an old Everex Magic Card 16
with 2 meg. Need to get it to expanded and no software came
with it. I got Above Disk but the manual states it takes 78K
of conventional memory! Is there an easier or cheaper
way to get the expanded mem? A cheap board out there that would
work?
No msg 42649

Msg 42650 is 03 line(s) on 10/20/89 from ALEX ZELL
to COLIN SCHROEDER re: PLANTZ BBS

To register for Gene Plantz's BBS call 885-2303.
That exchange is reportedly in Willowcrest, so it may be a
toll call for some.

Msg 42651 is 03 line(s) on 10/21/89 from NICK TALLYN
to ALL re: ORCA & APW

I have Orca/M for the Apple IIGS and wondered if anyone has a macro file
to allow it to use the APW macros. If not can you tell me how I can get
them?

Msg 42652 is 07 line(s) on 10/21/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to ALEX ZELL re: R/PLANTZ BBS

Alex:
 thanks mucfor the #! If I can ever help you w/ anything just
let me know! BTW, I don't know what you do for a living, but if you
or your colleagues/clients ever need statistical &/or other
consulting, let me know.
 Regards,
 Colin

Msg 42653 is 06 line(s) on 10/21/89 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD re: GREETINGS.

 won't ever see a reply to this, if any, but I just
ght I'd stop in to say hello. Life in upstate NY is nice,
but there ain't nothing like this board. Ah well. You're
SUPRISED that you can append files under MS-DOS? I'm
surprised that you're surprised! Anyway, just remember -
IT CAME FROM SCHENECTADY!

Msg 42654 is 03 line(s) on 10/22/89 from ZASHA MICHEL
to ALL re: MEMORY BOARD

I have a Zuckerboard 2MEG LIM/EMS 3.2 PC/XT expanded memory board stuffed
with 2meg of 256K 150NS Drams. I don't need it any more. Anybody
interested? Call me at 312 871 4700.

Msg 42655 is 08 line(s) on 10/22/89 from BILL WOLFF
to ALL re: PRODIGY HITS 100/000 STRONG!

Prodigy has just announced that the membership has just topped over
100,000 members. They also stated that this is a record for new networks
start-ups. This maybe so, but remember almost all of the 100,000 plus are
living on a free temp membership.

So I predict that the beginning of 1990, Prodigy will set another record.
The fastest membership lost in history! Anybody out there who feels
differently? <BW>

Msg 42656 is 03 line(s) on 10/22/89 from MIKE DAWSON
to ALL re: HELLO

hi just felt like writingfirst letter on this systen
i had my fun so ill let you go
mike

Msg 42657 is 07 line(s) on 10/22/89 from BILL MATTSON
to BILL WOLFF re: R/PRODIGY HITS 100/000 STRONG!

Yeh, I'm afraid so. Course I'm afraid of a lot of stuff. Prodigy doesn{t
look likch to me. Another thing I'm afraid of is that stuck
on good boards like this one and compus. I keep a stock portfolio on
Compuserve and when I trird to replicat and the convenience it gives
me on prodigy, I was extremely disapointed with Prodidy's circa 1970
sort ofroach to on-line serv especially when Compuserve has been
so well for so long for everyone to see and emulate.
dup. chars.
>Function:?{CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
10/23/89 22:43:16

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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Logging name to disk...
You are caller 209756; next msg =42663;  361 active msgs.
Prev. call 10/23/89 @ 00:08, next msg was 42658
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
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?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking fo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   8 
KILLED. 103 
SUMMARY.  23 
WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#42658,14
10/23/89,01:46:56,209733,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
]ERIC BOHLMAN,
10/23/89,05:29:19,209734,2,PETE JONES,,0
10/23/89,05:42:08,209735,2,JERRY OLSEN,,
E#42659,7
10/23/89,07:23:20,209736,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,102
10/23/89,09:39:40,209737,2,JACK HOMA,,3
10/23/89,10:49:43,209738,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
10/23/89,12:11:33,209739,1,GARY MCCOY,,2
10/23/89,13:28:43,209740,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
10/23/89,14:11:27,209741,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,
E#42660,7
10/23/89,14:35:05,209742,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,3
10/23/89,14:52:59,209743,1,HERTHA PROESSNER,,
10/23/89,15:42:37,209744,2,ROGER ACCOUNTANT,Oak Brook,
]CHAT: Tell me about the bbs,4
10/23/89,17:12:00,209745,2,LARRY SHIPINSKI,Woodridge/ IL,
E#42661,3
10/23/89,17:27:18,209746,2,OBET PABON,chicago,1
10/23/89,17:54:36,209747,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,2
10/23/89,18:54:52,209748,1,DEBBIE SMITH,GARY,
10/23/89,19:05:25,209749,1,DEBBIE SMITH,,9
10/23/89,20:44:13,209750,2,PHIL JERN,,
E#42662,14
10/23/89,20:59:10,209751,2,JIM POLOUS,,3
10/23/89,21:16:53,209752,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,13
10/23/89,21:41:19,209753,2,JIM SACKETT,,8
10/23/89,21:52:33,209754,1,RICHARD WARD,,6
10/23/89,22:10:16,209755,2,PHIL JERN,,1
10/23/89,22:43:20,209756,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42658 10/23/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PUTTING UP BBS"
42659 10/23/89 JERRY OLSEN => ALL: "AREA CODE 708 UTILITY"
42660 10/23/89 TONY ANTONUCCI => WARD: "COPY"
42661 10/23/89 LARRY SHIPINSKI => ALL: "PC REPAIR 4 LESS"
42662 10/23/89 PHIL JERN => ALL: "HP LASERJET IIP"

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Msg 42658 is 06 line(s) on 10/23/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: PUTTING UP BBS

Gee, I've been asked to put up a BBS at work. We'd like one with
private email, distribution lists, conferences, and the possibility
of moving to multi-user.
 I've gotten recommendations from the author of the Searchlight BBS,
and one about "MagPie", and a recommendation about TPBoard - nice because
of the Turbo Pascal source - I will at least look at that.

Msg 42659 is 19 line(s) on 10/23/89 from JERRY OLSEN
to ALL re: AREA CODE 708 UTILITY

As a business which provides both computer and graphic arts
services, we're acutely aware of the challenges of the
forthcoming "split" of area code 312. As such, we've developed
a simple but powerful program which intelligently analyzes
data base (both fixed-length and delimited records) and text
files, replacing area code 312 with 708 when appropriate.
We're releasing it as a public service, asking only a small
donation to offset development time if it saves you, too, time
and grief. Copies may be obtained either of two ways: Download
from The Advocate/NOWAR BBS, 312.939.4411, 300/1200/2400,
8/n/1, 24 hrs., central Chicago (request validation or catch
sysop with CHAT) or send $10 for disk/copying/shipping to
Advocate Enterprises, Ltd., 899 S. Plymouth #504, Chicago, IL
60605. Available for MS/PC-DOS, with 'C' source included for
those who want to modify to their unique needs or port to other
operating systems. (CP/M version available from above sources
if demand exists.) Given the small "window" of time during
which this utility is useful, you're encouraged to pass this
message and the files along elsewhere, locally and otherwise.

Msg 42660 is 10 line(s) on 10/23/89 from TONY ANTONUCCI
to WARD re: COPY

sure, ya can even copy more than 2 files that way
copy file1+2+file3 file.all
A former bug in DOS (well I think it was a bug) used to
cause me grief
example: copy *.* \foobar
would copy all the files in the cuurent directory to a file
in the root dir called 'foobar' if the directory did not exist
or you spelled it wrong.
This lead me to get into the habit of always typing
copy *.* \foobar\*.* as a safety measure :-)

Msg 42661 is 04 line(s) on 10/23/89 from LARRY SHIPINSKI
to ALL re: PC REPAIR 4 LESS

PC repair at very reasonable prices, On-Site or Carry-In Services.
Call Larry at (312) 985-5717 [AC 708 after Nov 11th], if I don't
answer please leave a message with your name and phone number
and I'll return your call within minutes.

Msg 42662 is 14 line(s) on 10/23/89 from PHIL JERN
to ALL re: HP LASERJET IIP

Well, I sold the old HP Laserjet, and a few other things, took the money
over to Elek-Tek and plunked it down on a new HP Laserjet IIP. God, it's
a nice printer. My first impressions are all positive at this point.
One word of advice- the $995 price does not include the "optional" lower
cassette tray. Plan to spend $135 extra for this. you need it.
Without the lower cassette tray, your options are a little limited as the
printer will only hold 50 sheets in the "MP" (multipurpose) tray that
hangs off the front of the printer. Using the cassette, and the face down
output tray on top of the printer, you can close the door on the front
of the printer and the whole thing takes up less desk room than
your average 80 column dot matrix printer. Has 14 fonts built in,
plus all the character sets, including all the PC sets, will have a
Postscript cartridge Real Soon Now. Gee, I'm glad I didn't jump at
getting the deskjet.
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