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~ WELCOME TO GENIELAMP APPLE II! ~
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~A2/PRO_ductivity: A2Pro Bits & Bytes
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~ SOFTVIEW A2: Quick Click Morph
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~ PROFILES: Meet Bret "Slixter" Victor, by Max Jones of Juiced.GS
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~ HOT NEWS, HOT FILES, HOT MESSAGES ~
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GenieLamp Apple II ~ A T/TalkNET Publication ~ Vol.5, Issue 60
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Publisher.................................................John F. Peters
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Editor...................................................Ryan M. Suenaga
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>>> WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE APPLE II ROUNDTABLE? <<<
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~ February 1, 1997 ~
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FROM MY DESKTOP ......... [FRM] FROM MY MAILBOX ......... [MAI]
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Notes From The Editor. Letters To The Editor.
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HEY MISTER POSTMAN ...... [HEY] A2/PRO_ductivity ........ [A2P]
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Is That A Letter For Me? A2Pro Bits & Bytes.
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SOFTVIEW A2 ............. [HUN] PROFILES ................ [PRO]
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Quick Click Morph by Doug Cuff. Slixter by _Juiced.GS_
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LOG OFF ................. [LOG]
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Before I became editor of this publication, I had a number of email
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conversations with Doug Cuff, my predecessor. One of the things that we
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discussed was his typing up some "notes" for me on how to put _GenieLamp A2_
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together. A few weeks before the first issue of _GenieLamp A2_ that had my name
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as editor was to be published, Doug sent me his "notes" via email. I used
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Shrinkit to unpack them, saw that it was an Appleworks Word Pprocessor file, and
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used a macro I had written some time ago to load it into Appleworks and print it
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All of this merely serves to point out again that Doug did a remarkable job
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as editor of this publication. I knew it would take a lot of my time to get
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GenieLamp together on a monthly basis, but I didn't think it would be quite
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_this_ much time. It was, therefore, a disappointment to me that I wasn't able
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to match the size of the previous issues of GenieLamp in my debut issue, nor was
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I able to reprint all of the messages that I really wanted to, largely due to
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the fact that I was surprised by the time constraints.
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However, as I've been known to say, "If it don't kill you, it'll only make
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you stronger," I enter my second issue as editor a little more prepared, a
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little wiser, and a lot more experienced. Work on GenieLamp this month is
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starting earlier than usual: in fact, it's starting on New Year's Day. I guess
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you could say my resolution is to make sure GenieLamp lives up to its quality
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standard.
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Now to see about getting the day extended to thirty hours. . .
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Sometimes, you get Christmas presents from unexpected shores. As many of
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you know, _GenieLamp A2Pro_ is no longer being published. What you may _not_
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know is that before there was a _GenieLamp A2Pro_, _GenieLamp A2_ covered
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happenings in _both_ the A2 and A2Pro RoundTables on GEnie. I had toyed with
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the idea of incorporating some A2Pro coverage into _GenieLamp A2_ again, but had
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thought that it might be best to first get my feet wet in trying to continue
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what we had going already before expanding.
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So it came as a very pleasant surprise when, on December 30, 1996, a
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package arrived in email from my favorite Australian programmer. I unwrapped it
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to find what turned out to be a special Christmas present for the readers of
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_GenieLamp A2_.
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Richard Bennett, the world famous programmer of _Express_, _GraphicWriter
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III_, the _Spectrum_ ANSI display, and an assortment of other Apple II products,
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had taken the time to skim the A2Pro Bulletin Board over the last few months and
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compile a selection of choice postings for presentation in GenieLamp. I was
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blown away by the effort he had made with his busy schedule. My thanks,
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Richard, and I'm sure that the readers of _GenieLamp A2_ will thank you as well.
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It's been pretty common that _GenieLamp A2_ has had some great guest
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writers, but in this issue, we welcome a true celebrity to our electronic pages:
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Max Jones, editor and publisher of _Juiced.GS_, the Apple IIgs specific
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newsletter, has contributed a special column for this issue.
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I've been writing a regular column for Max since the first issue of
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_Juiced.GS_, and I had the pleasure of meeting Mad Max in person at Kansasfest
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1996, along with a bunch of other Apple II luminaries. Max went from being a
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total newcomer on the Apple IIgs scene to a well-known publisher of a
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well-respected publication in less than a year. I'm sure he'd agree that life
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hasn't been the same since.
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It's been often said that the Apple II was the computer that changed the
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world. Publishing _Juiced.GS_ certainly changed Max's world, and writing for
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_Juiced.GS_ certainly changed mine. Here's hoping that Max's column in this
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issue changes your world too.
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Another columns update: I had hoped to have the FILE BANDWAGON column back
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in this issue; it's not. I'm hoping to have it back again next issue, but
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whether or not that will happen remains to be seen (I don't like the taste of
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leather enough to have it every month).
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And Peter Brickell's still dealing with The Real World, so REAL WORLD APPLE
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continues on hiatus.
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-- Ryan
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HEY MISTER POSTMAN /
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Is That A Letter For Me?
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o BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS
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[*] CAT 5, TOP 3 ....... The Prodigal Son returns
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[*] CAT 9, TOP 11 ....... The standards of SCSI
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[*] CAT 9, TOP 23 ....... Stupid Prodos 8 tricks
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[*] CAT 11, TOP 7 ....... Superdrive cards resurface!
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[*] CAT 12, TOP 8 ....... Deskjets, Deskjets, and more Deskjets
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[*] CAT 17, TOP 27 ....... The IIgs: ReFRESH me!
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[*] CAT 28, TOP 4 ....... The LemminGS are coming!
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[*] CAT 29, TOP 44 ....... At last. . . Jasmine
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[*] CAT 35, TOP 30 ....... More about A2 II
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[*] CAT 46, TOP 1 ....... Memory problems? Get Sirius!
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>>> A2 POT-POURRI <<<
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DEFENDER ARRIVES ON GENIE Happy New Year to all!
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A couple of days ago, someone (it may have been Mark Wade) posted a message in
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the BB about wanting to see the Defender of the World game demo uploaded here.
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I've had this game demo on my hard drive since it was released as freeware last
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fall by author David Ong Tat-Wee of Singapore.
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So, I packed it up in the proper format and uploaded to the A2 RT Library this
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evening (Wednesday). When it clears inspection, it should be available for
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download as file #28252.
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The game itself is far from finished, and it may never be finished. But one
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level is playable, and portions of the other levels are available for
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inspection. It =is= fun to tinker with. Too bad the author doesn't have time to
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complete the project.
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Enjoy!
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Max
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THE PRINT SHOP: STILL AROUND Does anyone know if Print Shop GS, or any
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" other Print Shop spinoffs for the Apple II, are
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still available for purchase?
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I just got an e-mail from a teacher in Tulsa, OK, who had his original Print
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Shop GS disks stolen from his classroom. Apparently, no backups.
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He's wanting to know how/if he can get new copies of the disks.
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Max
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>>>>> Tuesday, January 21, 1997 - 10:24 pm
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Max,
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National School Products (800-289-3960 Fax; 800-627-9393 voice) has The New
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disks in their current 94 page all Apple II catalog. I see Print Shop IIGS
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Expansion Library but not Print Shop IIGS itself. Sometimes they have things
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not shown in the catalog. Worth a call.
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MT Steve
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It's hard to decide if TV makes morons out of everyone or if it
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mirrors Americans who really are morons to begin with.
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-- Martin Mull
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(S.BERNBAUM, CAT6, TOP8, MSG:154/M645;1)
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>>>>> Max,
|
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"""""
|
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I know an Apple dealer who had one on the shelf less than 2 weeks ago. I'll be
|
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over that way again within a week (or whenever my TranswarpGS is ready) and I
|
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can check if it's new or re-wrapped and verify the price. Seems I remember it
|
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being $25-$35. Email me if you want me to pursue it for you.
|
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Ed Staib - here till the lights are out...
|
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(E.STAIB, CAT6, TOP8, MSG:156/M645;1)
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TULIN TUMBLES Monday, January 20, 1997 - 7:57 pm
|
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"""""""""""""
|
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I received an email from Wing Cheung today in response to email that I had sent
|
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to Tulin. Tulin is no longer in the drive business. Wing is a former employee
|
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|
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of Tulin, who has acquired their left over hard drive and floptical stock. He
|
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asked me to post his offering here.
|
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He is offering refurbished Insite flopticals for sale:
|
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$50 for a bare floptical drive, suitable for an internal drive or
|
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to put in your own case
|
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$80 for a fully set up floptical drive in an external case
|
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He also has some hard drives but requests people contact him specifying what
|
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they want and he will quote a price.
|
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He can be reached via email at: 104465.3171@COMPUSERVE.COM@INET#
|
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Be patient if he does not reply right away. We have exchanged two messages
|
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|
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so far and it has taken him a couple of weeks to reply each time.
|
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MT Steve
|
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P.S. That's all I know. Contact Wing for further info.
|
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(S.BERNBAUM, CAT4, TOP40, MSG:58/M645;1)
|
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DO-IT-YOURSELF .FL FILES Don, Bob: Sometime when I first acquired the
|
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|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""" LaserJet (1/95?) I did upload a Harmonie .FL file for
|
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|
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it but doubt that is what I am using today. I presently have TT/PCL mappings as
|
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|
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follows: Courier/Courier(22), Garamond/Garamond(156), Geneva/Omega(3),
|
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|
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Arial/Arial(19867), Monoco/UniversMed(4), Symbol/Symbol(23),
|
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|
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Times/CGTimes(20), ZapfChanc/Marigold(18), ZapfDing/Wingdings(13),
|
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|
|
Aspire/Coronet(2418). The numbers represent IIGS font families in decimal. These
|
|||
|
|
typefaces now print instantly via Harmonie EXTERNAL without the long dreadful
|
|||
|
|
delays.
|
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|
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|
|
Am sure the mix of built-in fonts is different on the InkJets, but the principal
|
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|
|
is probably the same. Basically each entry in the xxx.FL table looks like this:
|
|||
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|
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|
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(For example, Aspire)
|
|||
|
|
byte 0-1 Family number in HEX 72 09
|
|||
|
|
byte 2 Length of print command 0A
|
|||
|
|
byte 3-n Print command in CHAR <esc>(slp4116T
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Don't forget the GS's bizarre need for placing the L/O byte of family number in
|
|||
|
|
the rightmost position (as in 2418 = 0972 above) ;^{ You will need a block
|
|||
|
|
editor of some sort to set this up properly.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Margot (18:30 PST - Sun 1/19/97) Spectrum v2.0/CoPil v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(M.TAYLOR66, CAT40, TOP9, MSG:88/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< > to use Letter Gothic font instead of Geneva to tell the DeskJet
|
|||
|
|
""""" > to use Letter Gothic.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
I suppose if you could find a bit mapped or TT font for LetterGothic, you could
|
|||
|
|
simply replace the family ID for Geneva (03 00 in bytes 0-1) with whatever is
|
|||
|
|
correct for LetterGothic in the xxx.FL table you are using. See previous post.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Margot (18:49 PST - Sun 1/19/97) Spectrum v2.0/CoPil v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(M.TAYLOR66, CAT40, TOP9, MSG:89/M645;1)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
>>> HOT TOPICS <<<
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SUPERDRIVES: HISTORY AND APPLICATION Is the SuperDrive controller card,
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" that's been mentioned, the same thing as
|
|||
|
|
the Apple II 3.5" disk controller card? Thanks.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Dave Stewart
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by:
|
|||
|
|
Spectrum 2.1, and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(D.STEWART2, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:18/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Dave,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
The manual calls it [Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card], so I'd say yes.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
--
|
|||
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech
|
|||
|
|
cknoblo@delphi.com
|
|||
|
|
cknoblo@novia.net
|
|||
|
|
(C.KNOBLOCK, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:20/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Jim and Dave and Carl,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
>> The SuperDrive Controller Card aand the Apple II 3.5" Disk Controller
|
|||
|
|
>> Card are one and the same...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I don't think that's true:( There is an "Apple II 3.5" Disk Controller
|
|||
|
|
Card" that is used for "non-SuperDrive" 3.5" disk drives.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Godzilla
|
|||
|
|
(S.GOZDZIEWSK, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:21/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I think that Apple made two versions of the 3.5 Disk Controller;
|
|||
|
|
""""" the first dealt with 800k drives, the later version handled 800 and
|
|||
|
|
1.44 Mb disks. If memory serves, the =name= of the card didn't change, but I
|
|||
|
|
=think= the part no. did.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ed Lundberg
|
|||
|
|
(EDMUNDL, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:24/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Steve,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
>I don't think that's true:( There is an "Apple II 3.5" Disk Controller
|
|||
|
|
>Card" that is used for "non-SuperDrive" 3.5" disk drives.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Yes, and it only supports the Unidisk 3.5. The card and manual I described is
|
|||
|
|
the SuperDrive controller card. I hav an AE HD 3.5 on it and can read AOL disks.
|
|||
|
|
;) And erase them, and use them as ProDos 1.44M disks.
|
|||
|
|
--
|
|||
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech
|
|||
|
|
cknoblo@delphi.com
|
|||
|
|
cknoblo@novia.net
|
|||
|
|
(C.KNOBLOCK, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:25/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I have the Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card and it supports the HD
|
|||
|
|
""""" drive.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
On Page 2 of the manual it says:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The disk controller card works with these floppy disk drives:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Apple SuperDrive
|
|||
|
|
- Apple 3.5 Drive
|
|||
|
|
- Apple II UniDisk 3.5
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So there you have it. I bought this card from Shreve systems 6 weeks ago
|
|||
|
|
and they have since sold out.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
JB
|
|||
|
|
(J.COLE63, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:26/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> There was no name change or model number change when the Apple II
|
|||
|
|
""""" 3.5 Disk Controller Card went from supporting only the 800k GCR format
|
|||
|
|
to supporting both the 1.4 meg MFM and 800k GCR formats. This was documented in
|
|||
|
|
A2 Central.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
|||
|
|
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(A2LAMP, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:27/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< I'm looking for comments on my game plan. I plan to connect an
|
|||
|
|
""""" Apple SuperDrive to my GS. While using Netscape on my PC, I'd like to
|
|||
|
|
be able to download something (say a Richard Bennett driver), remove the floppy
|
|||
|
|
from the PC, insert in the SuperDrive, and install the driver on the GS. Is
|
|||
|
|
this doable? How will the stuff be packed and which machine will I do the
|
|||
|
|
unpacking? Any comments will be appreciated from the remaining audience.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Dave Stewart
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by:
|
|||
|
|
Spectrum 2.1, and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(D.STEWART2, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:33/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> > Is this doable?
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
Yep.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> How will the stuff be packed and which machine will I do the unpacking?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Usually, Apple II stuff is packed in a NuFX format, with or without a Binary II
|
|||
|
|
wrapper.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you're grabbing stuff off of the 'net, it is sometimes also Binscii'd,
|
|||
|
|
Binhex'd, or UUencoded (or otherwise textually encoded). A number of Apple II
|
|||
|
|
programs can handle some or all of these formats, including GSCII+, Speckie 2.1,
|
|||
|
|
and Binscii.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
And you ought to do the unpacking on a IIgs.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
|||
|
|
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(A2LAMP, CAT11, TOP7, MSG:35/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
PRODOS 8 SLOT SWITCHING AND LASER BACKUPS Is there a way to make slot 7
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" on an IIe be remapped as slot 5? I
|
|||
|
|
have an unusual need to be able to switch it back and forth without having to
|
|||
|
|
move the board in the slot.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thanks in advance.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:2/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Hans:
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
I am not certain, but I _think_ a strategic poke to the ProDOS device driver
|
|||
|
|
table at $BF10+ _might_ serve temporarily to remap a slot 7 device to slot 5.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From what program (or environment) will you be making the change? Will it be
|
|||
|
|
from within AppleWorks, or a BASIC program, or perhaps from within a program
|
|||
|
|
allowing access to the Visit Monitor CDA on a IIGS?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Hugh...
|
|||
|
|
(H.HOOD, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:3/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< I'd like to be able to make the change either from BASIC or the
|
|||
|
|
""""" "monitor".
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This is a IIe (actually, a Laser 128EX), so there are no CDA's.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:4/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Hans:
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
Please do something for me. After booting ProDOS and getting into BASIC.SYSTEM,
|
|||
|
|
get into the monitor (type CALL -151) and do a listing of the contents from
|
|||
|
|
$BF12 to $BF1F (type BF12L).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Please let me know what the HEX contents of these locations are. This is the
|
|||
|
|
device driver address table for the slots that ProDOS uses. I _think_ we can
|
|||
|
|
re-map Slot 7 to Slot 5 with one POKE _if_ you are using ProDOS 8 on the program
|
|||
|
|
you will be running.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Hugh..
|
|||
|
|
(H.HOOD, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:5/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< Coming up...
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
from ProDOS 8 vers. 2.0.2:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
$BF12- 08 FD 08 FD 08 FD
|
|||
|
|
$BF16- 08 FD 4E C5 00 D0 0D C7
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:6/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Re: Changing slots in P8
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
I feel I need to comment on what's going on here.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Or, at least what I _think_ is going on here :) If the idea is to swap the
|
|||
|
|
entries in the P8 device driver list, read on... If it isn't, then forget the
|
|||
|
|
whole rest of this msg while I pull my foot out of my mouth :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
P8 stores its device driver table at $BF10 thru $BF2F. If I recall correctly,
|
|||
|
|
the goal is to swap slot 5 with slot 7. The quick and dirty method is to take
|
|||
|
|
the contents of $BF1A/1B and swap them with $BF1E/1F assuming drive 1 in both
|
|||
|
|
cases. Depending on the device driver(s) in question, this might work. Here's
|
|||
|
|
the problem tho: The MLI sets up a command block (device driver parameter list)
|
|||
|
|
prior to calling the device driver. One of those parameters in the command
|
|||
|
|
block is UNIT NUMBER (found at $43) which is in the format: %DSSS0000, where D
|
|||
|
|
is the drive number minus one, and SSS is the slot number. OK? Keep this in
|
|||
|
|
mind. Next, let's take a look at the hardware side. Most external cards can
|
|||
|
|
be plugged into any slot and work. The easiest way to communicate with a card
|
|||
|
|
is to read/write at the slot hardware _base_ address, using the X-Register to
|
|||
|
|
specify the actual slot offset. For example, the assembly language instruction
|
|||
|
|
LDA $C080,X where X=$10 would access slot 1. If X=$20, then the access would
|
|||
|
|
be to slot 2, etc. So, the people who write device drivers, only need a base
|
|||
|
|
address ($C080) and where their card is at (loaded in the X-Reg). Now, let's
|
|||
|
|
put the two together.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1. The device driver needs the X-Register to be set to the slot number.
|
|||
|
|
2. The MLI issues the slot number as part of the Unit Number.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Hmmm...If you were a device driver, where would you get that slot number??? :)
|
|||
|
|
And everythings fine until.... someone _swaps_ the entries in the P8 device
|
|||
|
|
driver table and _doesn't_ tell P8 about it :(
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Say you have a 3.5 drive on slot 5, and a SCSI card in slot 7, and you swap the
|
|||
|
|
device drivers. =Potentially= you have the 3.5 driver accessing the SCSI card,
|
|||
|
|
and the SCSI driver accessing the 3.5 drive. +NOT+ what you want!!! AND- I
|
|||
|
|
don't even want to think about what would happen if the two swapped entries
|
|||
|
|
refered to different devices, i.e. a serial device and a block device. Yikes!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So, I can be wrong on this, because not all device drivers are written the same
|
|||
|
|
way. Maybe it'll work for you, but I wanted to at least inform you that the
|
|||
|
|
results may prove disasterous. Also, since I'm jumping in here, maybe I drew
|
|||
|
|
the wrong conclusion about where this discussion was going to go, and in that
|
|||
|
|
case Sorry!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
BTW, I'm currently writing a P8 device driver to control an IDE HD with multiple
|
|||
|
|
partitions, which the user may map into unused P8 slots. (like the RamFAST).
|
|||
|
|
The basic theory is to fill the unused P8 device driver vectors with my device
|
|||
|
|
driver entry point and then translate the different Unit Numbers passed by the
|
|||
|
|
MLI into the correct partition, there by creating virtual drives. If someone
|
|||
|
|
tried to swap the entries, nothing would happen because the entries are the
|
|||
|
|
same-- it's the Unit Number that makes the difference.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So, basicly, hot swapping the device driver entries is a BAD idea, in my
|
|||
|
|
opinion, of course :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-Sully
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(All miss-spellings are my own :)
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(R.SULLIVAN8, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:7/M645;1)
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>>>>> Hans:
|
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"""""
|
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Sully knows exactly what I was hacking to do, and makes great points. Don't
|
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worry though, I wasn't going to let you walk into the quicksand, at least not
|
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without adequate warning and protection. <g>
|
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Currently, what cards are in slots 5 and 7, respectively, and how many devices
|
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are attached to each card? If slot 5 is the built-in diskport, how many drives
|
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are attached?
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Will the program from which you want to access the 'swapped' slot device address
|
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files on it from BASIC with BASIC.SYSTEM commands (e.g. LOAD X, S5,D1), or will
|
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it address it from machine code?
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BTW, before you even attempt to swap the $C7 0D for the $C5 4E with a few POKES,
|
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_everything_ needs to be backed up. Plus, unless Sully bales me out with the
|
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|
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answers, I need to re-read Gary Little's explanation about the whole mapping
|
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procedure, as another location (Sully's $BF32,X) may also need to be massaged.
|
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Of course, if you're a curious sort, and a bit impulsive, and if you've _got
|
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everything backed up_, and your estate planning is in order, you can go ahead
|
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with the POKES anyway, and let us know what happens. <g>
|
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Hugh...
|
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(H.HOOD, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:8/M645;1)
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>>>>> Hans, Hugh,
|
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|
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"""""
|
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I whipped up a short program that will correctly handle the slot 5/slot 7 swap
|
|||
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problem. This program applies a patch to P8 that will intercept calls to slot
|
|||
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5/7, fix the Unit Number, then passes (redirects) control to the opposite slot.
|
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When the program is launched, it will relocate itself between the BI and the
|
|||
|
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buffers, so it is protected from other programs. The patch must be applied each
|
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|
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time Prodos is launched, but never twice in the same session. I'm emailing you
|
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guys a copy of both the program and the Merlin source. I used GSHK with
|
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BinaryII, hope that isn't a problem.
|
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-Sully
|
|||
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(R.SULLIVAN8, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:9/M645;1)
|
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|
|||
|
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<<<<< Hugh and Sully,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
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|
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Actually, that's exactly what I want to streamline -- the HD backup process.
|
|||
|
|
Here's what I've got:
|
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|
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The machine is a Laser 128EX with an expansion box, so I've got two available
|
|||
|
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expansion slots -- slot 5 and slot 7. Each slot is controlled by a hardware
|
|||
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switch. If I switch slot 5 "on", I can only access 128K of ram, and since I use
|
|||
|
|
AppleWorks a lot, slot 5 remains dedicated to ram. If I switch slot 7 "on", I
|
|||
|
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lose access to any 3.5" drive connected to the external drive port (a 5 1/4"
|
|||
|
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drive simply responds to s6,d2, but a 3.5" drive is addressed as s7,d1 -- same
|
|||
|
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port). So the problem is that I have three "devices" (1 MB of ram, HD, and 3.5"
|
|||
|
|
drive) competing for two resources, but I only ever need any two of them at the
|
|||
|
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same time.
|
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|
|||
|
|
In normal use, I have 1 MB of extended ram tying up slot 5 and an Apple High-
|
|||
|
|
Speed SCSI card in slot 7. For the occasions when I need to transfer a file to
|
|||
|
|
(or from) a 3.5" drive, I simply set up a ramdisk, temporarily move the file (or
|
|||
|
|
disk) to the ramdrive, flip the switch, and reboot. Although this is fine for
|
|||
|
|
the occasional transfer, it's not conducive to making even a single backup.
|
|||
|
|
Backups to a 3.5" disk are not imposssible, but I have to physically move the
|
|||
|
|
SCSI controller temporarily to slot 5 first. I want to avoid having to move the
|
|||
|
|
controller back and forth. Up until now, I've done that at the expense of
|
|||
|
|
making any backups.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
What's frustrating is that when I use a program like Copy-II-Plus, the 3.5"
|
|||
|
|
drive activity light comes on for a moment as all the drives are polled, it just
|
|||
|
|
never shows up in the list of drives to be accessed until I switch slot 7 "off"
|
|||
|
|
-- but then I can't access the HD.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
After reading Sully's explanation of what needs to happen, I fear that remapping
|
|||
|
|
the slot won't provide a solution since that will probably remap the external
|
|||
|
|
drive port to slot 5 as well. :-(
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:11/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Hans,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
I had a similar situation with a Laser awhile ago. The best solution ended up
|
|||
|
|
being backing up to another device on the SCSI chain; I realize that might not
|
|||
|
|
be suitable for you, but it was the best I could come up with.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
|||
|
|
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(A2LAMP, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:12/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< Much as I hate to, I may just abandon the expansion box and mount
|
|||
|
|
""""" the SCSI controller in the open from the side of the machine. At least
|
|||
|
|
that way I won't need to physically move the controller to change slots -- I'll
|
|||
|
|
just need to flip switches.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I tried to see if I could just add a jumper or two to make one of the slots in
|
|||
|
|
the expansion module act the same as the slot in the side of the machine, but I
|
|||
|
|
didn't see any obvious way to do it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:14/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Hans,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
You have an interesting situation there. I'm not sure why CopyII+ doesn't see
|
|||
|
|
your drive. I'm with Ryan, tho- The easiest way would be to connect another
|
|||
|
|
scsi device for backups. A Zip drive would be my recommendation.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-Sully
|
|||
|
|
(R.SULLIVAN8, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:18/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< Sully, A Zip drive on a IIe (or clone)? You mean I can just unplug
|
|||
|
|
""""" my ZIP from my Performa and move it over to my Laser? Can I just use an
|
|||
|
|
AHS utility or ProSel-8 to format a ZIP disk?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_____
|
|||
|
|
/ \
|
|||
|
|
)=====(
|
|||
|
|
\___+_/
|
|||
|
|
..:... Hans
|
|||
|
|
(H.HAUMANN, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:20/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Sure, why not? I had a Zip Drive running on one of my //es :)
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
> You mean I can just unplug my ZIP from my Performa and move it over to my
|
|||
|
|
> Laser?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Provided you have a properly working existing SCSI chain and follow the
|
|||
|
|
usual SCSI rules, sure. One caveat: watch out for the limit of 14 Prodos
|
|||
|
|
devices.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> Can I just use an AHS utility or ProSel-8 to format a ZIP disk?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Yeah. . . use Chinook SCSI utils. That'll work fine. If not, use the AHS
|
|||
|
|
SCSI utils. That'll work too, but Chinook's better.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
|||
|
|
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
|||
|
|
(A2LAMP, CAT9, TOP23, MSG:22/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
RAMFAST, PRODOS 8, AND FLOPTICALS Is there any way to set up a RamFAST
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Rev.D with the latest ROMs so that P8
|
|||
|
|
programs such as AppleWorks will be able to use a Floptical drive?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I have tried to figure out the slot mapping, but my RamFAST manual has taken a
|
|||
|
|
walk, and as I recall it wasn't very helpful. If I don't map slots, and try to
|
|||
|
|
launch AppleWorks, I get a text error panel that says to insert /HD.PGM/, which
|
|||
|
|
is the name of the hard disk partition that has my copy of AW 5.1 on it. If I
|
|||
|
|
map slots, AW doesn't recognize the Floptical drive.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ideas?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Don V. Zahniser
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by CoPilot for ANSITerm
|
|||
|
|
(D.ZAHNISER, CAT20, TOP13, MSG:154/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I don't have (8-bit) AppleWorks, but I do have a Floptical and the
|
|||
|
|
""""" same RF as you. Here are a few tips that might help:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
* Cold Boot with a disk in the Floptical drive. RF acts a lot better when
|
|||
|
|
it knows about the Floptical from the start.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
* Once you're booted up, go into the RF Utilities and make sure your
|
|||
|
|
Floptical disk is recognized, and that it's marked as ACTIVE. At this
|
|||
|
|
time you can also note your SCSI IDs.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I believe the problem is the manual mapping. I wrestled with this problem while
|
|||
|
|
trying to get my PCT to work w/the Floptical. ProDOS seems to re-map volumes
|
|||
|
|
upon entry to P8. What I noticed is that ProDOS replaced my Floptical with
|
|||
|
|
/RAM3. (Using a CDA such as File-a-Trix is handy for listing what volumes are
|
|||
|
|
considered on-line when you're in P8)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The only solution is to arrange your SCSI IDs in such a way that the all of the
|
|||
|
|
volumes (Floptical, HD partitions, etc.) that you NEED to appear in P8 do so
|
|||
|
|
with auto-mapping and don't exceed P8's 12 volume limit. This eliminates the
|
|||
|
|
need for manual mapping. How much changing you have to do depends on your
|
|||
|
|
setup. :/
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I set my Floptical ID between my boot drive and my 2nd (bigger) drive. Since
|
|||
|
|
there are 3 partitions on my boot drive, the Floptical appears as the 4th volume
|
|||
|
|
and shows up in P8 just fine.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
_/\_/\__
|
|||
|
|
/ o o\___
|
|||
|
|
// \________/
|
|||
|
|
// \ Wily
|
|||
|
|
(P.CREAGER, CAT20, TOP13, MSG:160/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< Wily (and anyone else with a RamFAST)
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
Playing around with Wily's recommendations, I stumbled upon the following
|
|||
|
|
procedure for getting RamFAST to automagically recognize any disk in the
|
|||
|
|
Floptical drive under P8. It has interesting implications for users of other
|
|||
|
|
removable media drives, I am sure.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) Shut off the GS
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2) Insert an unformatted disk (or disk from an inactive FST) into the
|
|||
|
|
Floptical drive.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3) Boot the GS into the RamFAST Utilities by holding the zero key down. What you
|
|||
|
|
should see on the right-hand side is your usual list of volumes, except that for
|
|||
|
|
the Floptical drive, you should see a generic volume name based on the SCSI ID
|
|||
|
|
of the Floptical device. On my system, this generic name is CVTECH.ID4.A (The
|
|||
|
|
device name is CVTECH.S7.F).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4) Map the generic volume name into an empty slot. What you will find at this
|
|||
|
|
point is that any disk that you put into the Floptical drive will be mapped to
|
|||
|
|
the same slot to which you mapped the generic volume name.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I stumbled into this when I put a HD disk from GNN into the Floptical drive.
|
|||
|
|
Curiously, Finder polled the drive, and did nothing with it. No Icon, no error
|
|||
|
|
message. I went into RamFAST Utilities, and there was the generic volume ID.
|
|||
|
|
Further analysis with UniverseMaster and UtilityWorksGS seem to indicate that
|
|||
|
|
the disk name has 'illegal' characters that aren't recognized by the MS-DOS FST.
|
|||
|
|
I have 2 AOL disks with the same syndrome. I have been able to format these
|
|||
|
|
with RamFAST Utilities where GSOS programs won't.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was able to reproduce the sequence above by deactivating the MS-DOS FST prior
|
|||
|
|
to shutting off the GS, and using an MS-DOS disk in the Floptical drive when I
|
|||
|
|
booted it into RamFAST Utilities.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Don V. Zahniser
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by CoPilot for ANSITerm
|
|||
|
|
(D.ZAHNISER, CAT20, TOP13, MSG:161/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< I just found out there may be an intermediate step missing from my
|
|||
|
|
""""" previous post. It _may_ be necessary to go into SCSI Utilities while in
|
|||
|
|
RamFAST.Util and click on the device containing the 'unrecognizable' disk prior
|
|||
|
|
to mapping the generic volume name to the slot. Here are some alternate
|
|||
|
|
instructions to try:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) Launch RamFAST Utilities.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2) Insert media that is known to be not recognized by Prodos or installed FSTs.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3) Click on SCSI Utilities, then click on the device containing the media. One
|
|||
|
|
or more generic partition IDs should appear on the right side of the screen.
|
|||
|
|
Click 'Quit' to return to the main RamFAST Utilities panel. Depending on the
|
|||
|
|
contents of the media, one or more new volumes (one or more of which should be
|
|||
|
|
generically named with the SCSI ID - e.g. CVTECH.ID0.A, CVTECH.ID0.B, etc)
|
|||
|
|
should appear.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4) Click on the _first_ (e.g.- the CVTECH.ID0.A partition) and map that to a
|
|||
|
|
slot.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5) Quit the RamFAST Utilities, which should prompt a reboot.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I just used Compton's Encyclopedia (which is an 'unknown' format) to map my
|
|||
|
|
CD-ROM drive to a slot. Now, for the first time, I can directly access
|
|||
|
|
GO.Prodos on the Golden Orchard CD-ROM from within AppleWorks.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Don V. Zahniser
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by CoPilot for ANSITerm
|
|||
|
|
(D.ZAHNISER, CAT20, TOP13, MSG:162/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
DELPHI AND INTERNET ODDS & ENDS If you are thinking about venturing onto
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the Internet, or have general questions about
|
|||
|
|
how to do things out there, I have a recommendation for you. Use Lynx (see below
|
|||
|
|
for help with this) and visit the following site:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
http://people.delphi.com/THE_WAVES/
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From there, follow the link to the ROADMAP lessons. These are the original
|
|||
|
|
ROADMAP lessons by Patrick Crispen that have been updated for Delphi users.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
You can read these lessons online, or have them emailed to you, or print them to
|
|||
|
|
the screen and capture them that way.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you have questions about listserv, email, usenet, telnet, ftp, gopher, or the
|
|||
|
|
world wide web, this is a good place to begin getting answers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
To use Lynx from Genie, go to page 5000 and follow the links to Lynx. You will
|
|||
|
|
need VT-100 or ANSI emulation and full duplex to use Lynx. Once you are inside
|
|||
|
|
Lynx, type G (for GO) and a prompt will be available near the bottom of the
|
|||
|
|
screen. Type in the address given above and press return.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Once you are there, follow the links as I've said above to get to the list of
|
|||
|
|
lessons. I suggest that, unless you are looking for specific information, that
|
|||
|
|
you begin with lesson 1. When you are looking at the lesson, if you want to
|
|||
|
|
capture it to read offline, press the P key. That will give you a print menu
|
|||
|
|
that will include emailing the lesson to your account or printing the lesson to
|
|||
|
|
the screen where you can capture it in your buffer or to an ASCII text file on
|
|||
|
|
your disk. Make your choice and follow the prompts.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Happy surfing! :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Charlie
|
|||
|
|
(A2.CHARLIE, CAT35, TOP29, MSG:138/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> A2 access in Delphi via Netscape Navigator is now operational
|
|||
|
|
""""" (actually, I kind of like it, and I usually despise graphical web
|
|||
|
|
browsers, so that says something :) Both the Forum and Conference areas are
|
|||
|
|
working right now.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
|||
|
|
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
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ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
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(A2LAMP, CAT35, TOP30, MSG:318/M645;1)
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>>> WHAT'S NEW <<<
|
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""""""""""""""""""
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|||
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BYTEWORKS GIVES US THE FAX New FAX Number
|
|||
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""" --------------
|
|||
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|||
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Growing concern over e-mail security is causing a lot of folks to want to fax
|
|||
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orders to us. We've added a fax line for exactly that purpose. The Byte Works
|
|||
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fax number is:
|
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(505) 898-4092
|
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|||
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Please send bug reports via e-mail or snail-mail (on disk). I don't want my
|
|||
|
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typos getting in the way of your bugs! It's also nice to have a way to get back
|
|||
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to you with bug fixes.
|
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|||
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Mike Westerfield
|
|||
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(BYTEWORKS, CAT45, TOP1, MSG:31/M645;1)
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|
|||
|
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JASMINE JOINS THE FRAY The long-awaited Jasmine front-end for Genie for
|
|||
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"""""""""""""""""""""" the Apple IIgs has arrived!!
|
|||
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|||
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Now available as file 28274 in the A2 Library, is the final beta test version of
|
|||
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Jasmine. Due to various Genie problems, it's looking like we'll never be able
|
|||
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to actually finish Jasmine, but we thought it would be a good idea to release
|
|||
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what we had so far, to give folks an idea of what could have been.
|
|||
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|||
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I have opened a set of topics in Category 29 (Topics 44 through 50) for
|
|||
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|
discussion of Jasmine. Although we won't be officially supporting it due to its
|
|||
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pre-release status, many of us will still be wandering through from time to time
|
|||
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and will be happy to answer questions, and many of you will be able to share
|
|||
|
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your experiences with Jasmine to help each other get the most out of it.
|
|||
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|||
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In any case, keep an eye on Category 29, Topics 44 to 50, for discussion of
|
|||
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Jasmine, and feel free to post there if you have a question or concern.
|
|||
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|||
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Regardless of being a "pre-release" package, Jasmine is still pretty impressive
|
|||
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as it stands, so I'm sure you'll want to try it out, if you haven't already!
|
|||
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I'm a little late getting these topics opened... Jasmine was actually uploaded
|
|||
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to the library about a week ago. In that week, it's
|
|||
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already had 81 downloads!
|
|||
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|||
|
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Dave Miller - Apple II Programmers RT betatesting coordinator
|
|||
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(JUST.DAVE, CAT3, TOP36, MSG:60/M645;1)
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
CHARLIE HARTLEY'S HTML HELP FOR APPLEWORKS Just stopped by with an
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" announcement...
|
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|
|||
|
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I have created a set of AppleWorks' macro task files that display HTML help
|
|||
|
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screens. These are available at my web site located at:
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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http://www.iglou.com/qwerty/
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
You can use page 5000 here on Genie to use Lynx to download the file.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Just follow the links to the Apple II software page. The macros are in the first
|
|||
|
|
file listed. BTW, it is named htmlhelp.bxy . Be sure to read the READ.ME.FISRT
|
|||
|
|
text file included in the download.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
These macros do use dot commands which require Ultra 4 or better.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Please direct any correspondence about these macros to my internet address:
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
hartley@iglou.com
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Charlie
|
|||
|
|
(A2.CHARLIE, CAT17, TOP 28, MSG:1/M645;1)
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
COPILOT 2.5.6 FOR ANSITERM RELEASED
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
############ NEWS FLASH #############
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
CoPilot for ANSITerm version 2.5.6 has been uploaded to the A2 Library. If all
|
|||
|
|
goes well, it should be file # 28292.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This is a maintenance release of the ANSITerm scripts, in a complete package.
|
|||
|
|
Those of you who have CoPilot 2.5.5 for ANSITerm and have installed the update
|
|||
|
|
scripts already have part of this package, but there are lots of minor tweaks
|
|||
|
|
and changes in this release, too. Among the more interesting:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ The archive is _not_ a disk archive, so you can unpack it to any hard drive
|
|||
|
|
partition, floppy disk, or RAM disk that has enough space (642K). It unpacks to
|
|||
|
|
a folder named 'ATCOP.Install'.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ The CoPilot application has been patched to allow you to paste addresses into
|
|||
|
|
the mail address field. You must copy the address to the clipboard prior to
|
|||
|
|
selecting GE mail from the Message menu.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ The CoPilot documentation has been edited to include information about the
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm version. Other editing has been done to update this file; it includes
|
|||
|
|
the changes added in version 2.5.6. A companion document called 'AT.delta.DOC'
|
|||
|
|
is laid out in parallel to the CoPilot documentation, and explains where the
|
|||
|
|
ANSITerm version differs from the documentation that applies to the other
|
|||
|
|
CoPilot versions. This file also contains a complete list of all the tweaks,
|
|||
|
|
bug fixes and changes that have been made since the initial release of CoPilot
|
|||
|
|
for ANSITerm v2.5.5 in the summer of 1995.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ The main action scripts have been modified so that you can edit a few lines
|
|||
|
|
near the end of the script, and choose what colors are displayed for the
|
|||
|
|
foreground and background. The color settings are listed in a table at the end
|
|||
|
|
of each of these scripts.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ Some of the menus accessed from the CoPilot Main off-line menu have been
|
|||
|
|
rearranged to agree with the CoPilot documentation (and to be the same as the
|
|||
|
|
other CoPilot implementations).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ The scripts have 'hooks' for all of the additional ANSITerm scripts that I
|
|||
|
|
have uploaded to the A2 library, _plus_ an additional script hook that was in
|
|||
|
|
the other implementations of CoPilot, but not in the ANSITerm version. See the
|
|||
|
|
AT.delta.DOC documentation for a description of how these script hooks work.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+ If you have Attached Mail waiting and skip it, you will get a message each
|
|||
|
|
time you log on reminding you that it is there. This message will disappear the
|
|||
|
|
next time you download Attached Mail.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Enjoy!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Don V. Zahniser - CoPilot for ANSITerm Support
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by CoPilot for ANSITerm v2.5.6
|
|||
|
|
(D.ZAHNISER, CAT29, TOP18, MSG:145/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
OLRIGHT! UPDATE
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
OLRight! News...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I have spent a bit of time today working on OLRight! Today's activities,
|
|||
|
|
combined with things I have done since the first upload, lead me to believe that
|
|||
|
|
the next upload will be for/with WriteAway, probably by next week-end.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
First, some reports:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Joachim Nelson has had difficulties in installing OLRight! so that the scripts
|
|||
|
|
would run. He got a message that corresponds to a bad pathname error. The 'fix'
|
|||
|
|
was to make a fresh installation of ANSITerm and install OLRight! again.
|
|||
|
|
Joachim had put OLRight! in the same folder as his CoPilot installation. I have
|
|||
|
|
not tested this configuration, so don't know if there is a compatibility
|
|||
|
|
problem.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Skip Helbig reports that the scripts broke on a line that reads:
|
|||
|
|
as bk de * Destructive backspace
|
|||
|
|
I have not gotten confirmation from Skip yet, but I suspect that he is running a
|
|||
|
|
version of AT earlier than v2.13b, which is what I have. Since this is not a
|
|||
|
|
critical setting, I am commenting it out where I find it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Skip also reports a perceived increase in system instability, especially in
|
|||
|
|
using Hermes, since installing Instant Replay. I have offered some thoughts,
|
|||
|
|
but don't know Skip's situation yet.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
UPDATES IN THE WINGS
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I have the following up and running on my system:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- Instant Replay scripts --
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Converted several scripts for use with Write Away. Conversion consists of
|
|||
|
|
substituting Command-\ for Command-S or Command-H for save/save as; and
|
|||
|
|
substituting Command-W for Command-K to close windows. Minor tweak to the
|
|||
|
|
find/unmark script. Hermes scripts will be included in the next archive in a
|
|||
|
|
separate folder.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Script to 'select all' and set font to CoPilot 8
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Extract (cut) highlighted text to a new archive file with user-defined name.
|
|||
|
|
Script is in both :OLR:Archive:Mail and OLR:Archive:Forums folders, so you can
|
|||
|
|
select where the text is archived.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Print highlighted text. The text is copied to a new (unsaved) file and
|
|||
|
|
printed; user has to close file at conclusion of print (at least so far).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- Message Searches --
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Off-Line setup menu now has routines for setting up forum 'searches'. The
|
|||
|
|
current options are:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Reset pointers in a SIG for last fifty messages or to a specific message
|
|||
|
|
number. Useful when setting up a new SIG.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o IGNORE all messages having a common subject (actually, a specific word or
|
|||
|
|
words in the subject) in a forum. Useful for suppressing messages for threads
|
|||
|
|
that you are not interested in. These settings are kept until you change or
|
|||
|
|
delete them.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Read a specific message number
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Read messages resulting from a search. Options include combinations of:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Search all messages or a range of messages
|
|||
|
|
Specify author of message
|
|||
|
|
Specify starting date for search
|
|||
|
|
Specify text to match in subjects (threads) of messages
|
|||
|
|
Specify entire message, or # of lines of each message to retrieve
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Read all messages in a thread.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- Login/Logoff --
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o If you telnet in, the scripts can log you off (You need to edit the .EX and
|
|||
|
|
.TN scripts for your ISP prompts/commands).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Message displayed that password was sent (cosmetic).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Changed timeout for each dial to 2 minutes (was 1 minute).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- Conferences ---
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Added missing quote which broke script
|
|||
|
|
o Changed references for A2 and A2Pro to non-custom
|
|||
|
|
o Added 3-second pause before asking for which room, since dialog may cover the
|
|||
|
|
room number.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- Globals --
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Added check/finish ASCII receive to global-c. This is for when scripts
|
|||
|
|
break. It closes open files and finishes any receives in progress.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Fixed global-q to properly exit conference
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o Deleted global-x, global-p, which were for CoPilot
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There may be more... :^)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Don V. Zahniser
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by CoPilot for ANSITerm
|
|||
|
|
(D.ZAHNISER, CAT29, TOP41, MSG:5/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>> THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE <<<
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
THE LEMMINGS ARE HERE! As of the end of 1996, the completed "Brutal
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""" Deluxe's LemminGS" game is in the hands of the beta
|
|||
|
|
test team. Once they've had a chance to thoroughly put the game through its
|
|||
|
|
paces and then give us the go-ahead, we'll start to ship it. We expect to get
|
|||
|
|
the 'beta team thumbs up' in the next few days...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Of course, if any last minute problems are discovered, they'll have to be fixed
|
|||
|
|
first.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>> When it is released, do you intend to distribute it 'electronically' to
|
|||
|
|
>> those who have purchased "Convert 3200"?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
When it is released, "Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS" will weigh in at nearly 2
|
|||
|
|
megabytes in size, and that makes it just much too large to transmit
|
|||
|
|
electronically. It will ship on three 3.5" disks.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As stated all along, Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is a "limited edition game" that
|
|||
|
|
will only be available to those who have purchased Convert 3200. There are,
|
|||
|
|
however, a few exceptions...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Those Genie members who attended the Brutal Deluxe RTC in March, 1996 will be
|
|||
|
|
eligible to acquire the game from SSII for the $5 s/h fee. Olivier Zardini kept
|
|||
|
|
a list of those who attended that RTC, and he'll be sending me that list soon.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SSII conducted a Desktop Publishing Contest last year, and winners of that
|
|||
|
|
contest were awarded copies of Convert 3200. Those winners are also eligible to
|
|||
|
|
get Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS from SSII for the same $5 s/h fee.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Joe
|
|||
|
|
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:192/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< >> So, what is the price for Convert 3200 and LemminGS?
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
Convert 3200 costs $15.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is free, but Brutal Deluxe has authorized SSII to
|
|||
|
|
charge $5 to cover the cost of disks, labels, mailers and postage to anywhere in
|
|||
|
|
the galaxy.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So...for 20 bucks, you can get the fastest graphics conversion program ever
|
|||
|
|
released for the IIGS, and a phenomenal game. Such a deal!!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|||
|
|
c/o Shareware Solutions II
|
|||
|
|
166 Alpine St
|
|||
|
|
San Rafael, CA 94901-1008
|
|||
|
|
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:197/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< >> That's all?? I thought it was about $50 or so.
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
50 bucks? FIFTY DOLLARS?!??
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Well then, I guess you're not that familiar with SSII's way of doing business.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
One of my goals is to offer great Apple II products dirt-cheap. Up until a few
|
|||
|
|
weeks ago, 50 bucks could have gotten you 17 shrink-wrapped games. Or, it could
|
|||
|
|
presently get you about three years worth of newsletters or 1.5 years worth of
|
|||
|
|
DOMs, or 10 copies of the Fast Eddie beta, or ProSel-16, or...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Such A Deal ;-)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Joe
|
|||
|
|
http://www.crl.com/~joko [ <--- The almost complete SSII catalog ]
|
|||
|
|
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:205/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< The past 48 hours have been a bit nerve-wracking, as the "final"
|
|||
|
|
""""" version of Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS crashed my system within 10 seconds
|
|||
|
|
of launching it. A flurry of e-mails to Brutal Deluxe ensued, and I was in
|
|||
|
|
contact with a number of the beta-test team, all of whom swore up and down that
|
|||
|
|
the "final" version of LemminGS worked just fine.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Since none of the other previous 20 versions misbehaved in the least bit on my
|
|||
|
|
system, a bit of detective work was required. I finally spotted 3 files that had
|
|||
|
|
been modified since the last beta version, and noticed that one of them was 5
|
|||
|
|
bytes shorter. I insisted that Brutal Deluxe look at that file, and sure
|
|||
|
|
enough...those 5 bytes were critical to the program.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I just downloaded the update, and...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS will start to ship on Monday, January 13, 1997.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It's completed, it works great, and I think it's the most enjoyable game I've
|
|||
|
|
ever played on my IIGS! I think you'll agree...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|||
|
|
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:229/M645;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I spent some time playing the LemminGS demo last night and it's
|
|||
|
|
""""" just great!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Normally when I'm doing my file releasing chores I'll take a quick look at the
|
|||
|
|
program to make sure it works, get back to Genie and release the file, then go
|
|||
|
|
back and play some more if I liked it. Well, ummm, ::cough::, this time I played
|
|||
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all 10 demo levels before I suddenly realized that I'd better go release the
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file so others could check it out. For those of you who had to wait a few extra
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hours for the demo (even though you would never have known without me telling
|
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you this), I apologize. :)
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Being a Second Sight owner, I have very little use for Convert 3200 even though
|
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I hear it's a great program. But LemminGS looks so darned good, and is so fun to
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play, that I'm going to buy Convert 3200 anyway so I can play the remaining 80+
|
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LemminGS levels.
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- Tony
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(A2.TONY, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:231/M645;1)
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>>> MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT <<<
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Category 2, Topic 7
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Message 358 Wed Jan 01, 1997
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H.MOST [Hindmost] at 02:04 EST
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Well, gang, this is my last night on Genie.
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After something more than 8 years, I'm leaving.
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I was tempted to post this with my original DISPATCHER account (which has had a
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name change to SOAPY.SUE and is being used by The Lovely Susan).
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(Come to think of it, the ORIGINAL name on that account was G.UTTER.)
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I want to talk about all the good times I've had here, I want to reminisce about
|
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so many of the friends I've made here (many of whom left a long time ago), I
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want to say a LOT of things, but there doesn't seem to be much point. I'll just
|
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start crying, and won't be able to read the screen anyway.
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I'm on Delphi now, committed to Delphi now. I'm over there because I believe
|
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very strongly that Genie is doomed, that Genie will die in mere months. I can't
|
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bear to watch. It's been hard enough already.
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If Apple II support has a future, its on Delphi. Genie only has a past.
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That's a hard thing to say, and many of you won't want to hear it, or accept it,
|
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but I think it is true.
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(I certainly wouldn't leave if I didn't.)
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I don't know what I mean to say here, and I know I'm not doing it well, but this
|
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is HARD people, REAL hard.
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I'm not going to say how much I'll miss you all, because I really hope that you
|
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all will join me on Delphi.
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GO COM A2 APPLE II FOREVER!!!!
|
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Gary R. Utter....................................utter@delphi.com
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[*][*][*]
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While on Genie, do you spend most of your time downloading files?
|
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If so, you may be missing out some excellent information in the Bulletin
|
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|
|
Board area. The messages listed above only scratch the surface of
|
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what's available and waiting for you in the bulletin board area.
|
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If you are serious about your Apple II, the GenieLamp staff strongly
|
|||
|
|
urge you to give the bulletin board area a try. There are literally
|
|||
|
|
thousands of messages posted from people like you from all over the
|
|||
|
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world.
|
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[EOA]
|
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[A2P]//////////////////////////////
|
|||
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A2/PRO_ductivity /
|
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/////////////////////////////////
|
|||
|
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By Richard Bennett
|
|||
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[RICHARD.B]
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|
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|
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>>> A2PRO BITS & BYTES <<<
|
|||
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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|
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|
|
NO BUFFERS AVAILABLE What kinds of things can cause the NO BUFFERS
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""" AVAILABLE error under ProDOS? Can anythign besides lack
|
|||
|
|
of free memory cause this error?
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
A guy named Adam Myrow is randomly seeing this message as he is writing an Eamon
|
|||
|
|
adventure. He is blind and uses talking software. The Eamon program uses a
|
|||
|
|
machine-code extension that resides in protected space at the top of free RAM.
|
|||
|
|
I'm guessing that the talking software is conflicting with the Eamon ML
|
|||
|
|
extension, but the problem surfaces randomly and Adam has not seen any patterns
|
|||
|
|
that would point to anything specific. He says he has seen it when FRE(0) shows
|
|||
|
|
6K of free RAM.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
I don't actually expect to work out a solution here, and Adam says he can live
|
|||
|
|
with it, but I am posting in case someone has any insights on what might be
|
|||
|
|
going on and how to avoid it.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
TomZ
|
|||
|
|
(A2.TOMZ, CAT7, TOP7, MSG:84/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> No Buffers Available can occur if one of these commands (append,
|
|||
|
|
""""" cat, catalog, exec, open, or -[dash]) is used when eight files are
|
|||
|
|
already open, or if there is not enough free memory for a 1K buffer to be
|
|||
|
|
assigned.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Charlie
|
|||
|
|
(A2.CHARLIE, CAT7, TOP7, MSG:85/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> NO BUFFERS AVAILABLE will happen any time you try to load data into
|
|||
|
|
""""" memory that's marked as USED in the global page.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
F'rinstance, if you try to load a file on top of BASIC.SYSTEM's memory (or
|
|||
|
|
ProDOS's memory), you'll get this error.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|||
|
|
Logicware, Inc.
|
|||
|
|
http://www.logicware.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(SHEPPY, CAT7, TOP7, MSG:86/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
THOSE WACKY JPEGS About a year (or so) ago, Tony Ward helped me figure out
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""" how to determine the dimensions of a Jpeg. Shortly after
|
|||
|
|
that a crash took away the code and information, anyone have the file format
|
|||
|
|
information around?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
About all I remember is that it's something wacky where I had to loop around
|
|||
|
|
looking for some marker bytes, but that's about all I remember (and I'm not even
|
|||
|
|
positive I'm remembering THAT right, could have been another file format <grin>)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
T'anks for any help --HangTime [Will Computer for Food] B-)>
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(HANGTIME, CAT11, TOP28, MSG:13/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Well, at least this time the information will be permanantly
|
|||
|
|
""""" archived in a known location... :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Basically, you process a JPEG by looking for markers. You should first check
|
|||
|
|
that the file actually is a JPEG by looking at the very beginning of the file.
|
|||
|
|
It should start with $FFD8 FFE0 aabb 4A46494600 ccdd.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
$FFD8 is the beginning marker. All JPEGs should start with these two bytes.
|
|||
|
|
$FFE0 should come next (it does in all JPEGs I've seen, but I'm not sure if it's
|
|||
|
|
always the case.) aabb are length bytes that I'll explain later. $4A46494600
|
|||
|
|
spells "JFIF" with a $00 terminator (call it a C-String if you like, but it's
|
|||
|
|
always the same in a valid JPEG.) ccdd is the version number ($0102 would be
|
|||
|
|
v1.2.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Once you've determined that the file is a valid JPEG, you need to search for the
|
|||
|
|
"Start Of Frame" marker. It will be a $FF followed by $Cn (it can be anything
|
|||
|
|
from $C0 to $CF =except= $C4 and $CC.) For our purposes, you don't care what n
|
|||
|
|
is as long as you find it (it defines the compression process.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The bytes immediately following $FFCn are as follows:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2 bytes: length
|
|||
|
|
1 byte : precision
|
|||
|
|
2 bytes: height
|
|||
|
|
2 bytes: width
|
|||
|
|
1 byte : number of components
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
You are interested in height and width. Note that the 2-byte values are in MSB
|
|||
|
|
first format. Thus, $013C = 316 decimal.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
You may be asking "what if $FFCn occurs naturally somewhere in the data?" Well,
|
|||
|
|
that's where those length bytes come in. To properly parse a JPEG, you really
|
|||
|
|
should scan from the beginning looking for $FF markers and skip ahead the number
|
|||
|
|
of length bytes to find the next marker. An important point here is that the
|
|||
|
|
length bytes =always= directly follow the marker bytes and =always= include the
|
|||
|
|
2 length bytes themselves.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I'm terrible at explaining things. I hope you can make sense of all this. Let me
|
|||
|
|
try to sum up...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) All JPEGs should start with $FFD8.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2) Directly after that will be another $FFxx marker. All $FFxx markers
|
|||
|
|
=except= the very first $FFD8 identifier will be followed by a 2-byte
|
|||
|
|
length in MSB first format.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3) Scan for the $FFxx markers, skipping ahead using the length bytes until
|
|||
|
|
you find a $FFCn marker and grab the data explained above.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
- Tony
|
|||
|
|
(A2.TONY, CAT11, TOP28, MSG:14/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FOCUS NON-ADB KEYBOARDS To anyone who can help! Hardware Hacker, Solder
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""" Slinger? I was just given a beautiful extended
|
|||
|
|
keyboard F1 thru F12. Made by Focus Electronic Co. Ltd. China (of course). All
|
|||
|
|
that was wrong was that the 3v Lithium Battery underneath was dead. A $3.00
|
|||
|
|
Radio Shack purchase fixed that. Now the calculator and the liquid crystal
|
|||
|
|
display works. It has a 5 pin Din and the cheezy Apple keyboard of course has a
|
|||
|
|
smaller 4 pin Din. Can I replace keyboards on my Apple IIGS? If so how do I
|
|||
|
|
wire the change? Is it feasable? I guess that the IIGS won't support many of
|
|||
|
|
the keys? Looking forward to some info or some place someone has posted this
|
|||
|
|
change before!
|
|||
|
|
R. Randall13
|
|||
|
|
Senior Solder Slinger!
|
|||
|
|
(R.RANDALL13, CAT12, TOP26, MSG:148/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I'm not sure what you have, but it doesn't sound like an ADB
|
|||
|
|
""""" keyboard, so unless you're willing to develop a WinTell to ADB adapter
|
|||
|
|
of some kind, the best use for the keyboard is as a paperweight.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
ADB keyboards of the type used by Apple IIGS and most Macintosh computers all
|
|||
|
|
use 4 pin DIN connectors. My Compaq uses a 6 pin DIN connector, which I assumed
|
|||
|
|
was standard in the WinTell world. Maybe you're keyboard was supposed to split
|
|||
|
|
the difference. ;)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Mike Westerfield
|
|||
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, CAT12, TOP26, MSG:149/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> >> I was just given a beautiful extended keyboard F1 thru F12.
|
|||
|
|
""""" >> MadeFocus Electronic Co. Ltd. China (of course).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Mike pointed out that this was probably a Wintel keyboard and did not have ADB
|
|||
|
|
support.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
ADB is the Apple Desktop Bus, and it means that any device you plug into a IIgs
|
|||
|
|
(or Mac for that matter) ADB port, must have smart logic inside to support the
|
|||
|
|
Bus. Wintel keyboards support different logic...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
What you need to do is swap it with some poor Wintel owner for a Macintosh
|
|||
|
|
extended keyboard...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ewen Wannop
|
|||
|
|
Delivered by: CoPilot v2.55 and Spectrum 2.1
|
|||
|
|
(E.WANNOP, CAT12, TOP26, MSG:151/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
WINTELCROSOFTATES Who makes a Wintel computer? I've never heard of one!
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""" Randy
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(R.RANDALL13, CAT12, TOP26, MSG:152/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> >Who makes a Wintel computer? I've never heard of one!
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
"Wintel" signifies Intel-based computers running Windows software.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It has common usage among Intel- and Microsoft-hating computer users who, for
|
|||
|
|
various reasons, refuse to use "PC" to signify this type of computer.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
TomZ
|
|||
|
|
(A2.TOMZ, CAT12, TOP26, MSG:153/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
MIME AT LAST Call to arms! Well, fingers to be precise...
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
Don't know if there's a better topic for this, I may create one depending on the
|
|||
|
|
response.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I've had a bit of feedback about how we don't have a MIME decoder for the Apple
|
|||
|
|
II. I'm assuming we still don't.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Anyway, over the weekend I knocked up a very basic shell for a MIME decoder
|
|||
|
|
application with plug in decoders. I've also written a decoder for quoted-
|
|||
|
|
printable and will be releasing the source as sample code.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So if anyone is interested in writing a decoder for any MIME types (eg. BASE64,
|
|||
|
|
BINHEX etc.) then let me know, as the shell is pretty much done except for
|
|||
|
|
niceties, and the plug-in module format for decoders is VERY simple, in the fact
|
|||
|
|
the shell does all the hard work for you.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
One last thing, this is in 65C02, so it'll run on //es and //cs as well as the
|
|||
|
|
IIGS.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Now, where are all those programmers who said they had decoders but no
|
|||
|
|
application shell to drive them? I don't have the time to write any others, so
|
|||
|
|
we need these people to step forward.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Regards,
|
|||
|
|
Richard
|
|||
|
|
(RICHARD.B, CAT16, TOP7, MSG:61/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> Richard,
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> I knocked up a very basic shell for a MIME decoder application
|
|||
|
|
> with plug in decoders. I've also written a decoder for quoted-
|
|||
|
|
> printable and will be releasing the source as sample code.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Excellent!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> So if anyone is interested in writing a decoder for any MIME types
|
|||
|
|
> (eg. BASE64, BINHEX etc.) then let me know, as the shell is pretty
|
|||
|
|
> much done except for niceties, and the plug-in module format for
|
|||
|
|
> decoders is VERY simple, in the fact the shell does all the hard
|
|||
|
|
> work for you.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was planning on doing an Base64 decoder for 8-bit machines. I've started to
|
|||
|
|
pull together the references but I haven't finished the specifications
|
|||
|
|
(features, etc.).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I once investigated doing a BinHex decoder for the IIgs (command for the ORCA
|
|||
|
|
shell) but I had trouble with the CRC value in the BinHex headers I was working
|
|||
|
|
with. I lifted C source code for 16-bit CRC from two different PC
|
|||
|
|
communications books and the CRC values I calculated never matched the ones in
|
|||
|
|
the header (I was doing this to ensure the integrity of the BinHex data I was
|
|||
|
|
about to process). Both examples, used precalculated values that were
|
|||
|
|
stored in tables for direct look-up. All of this C work was being done on the
|
|||
|
|
PC (because the development environment is easier and faster to work with)
|
|||
|
|
before it would be ported to the IIgs.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> One last thing, this is in 65C02, so it'll run on //es and //cs as
|
|||
|
|
> well as the IIGS.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That's good news. I was assuming that you or someone else was going to do a
|
|||
|
|
IIgs-specific Base64 decoder so I was planning on a 6502 version with an
|
|||
|
|
Applesoft front-end (because doing user interface from assembler has always been
|
|||
|
|
a pain for me).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Erick
|
|||
|
|
(E.WAGNER.10, CAT16, TOP7, MSG:62/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< Well, I've done the base64 stuff... What else needs doing?
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
(RICHARD.B, CAT16, TOP7, MSG:63/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> BinHex? MacBinary (would this show up in the MIME stuff?)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Actually, I think it would be rather nice if the base64 decoder could sense that
|
|||
|
|
the data was of a particular type (such as GIF, JPEG, TIFF) and automagically
|
|||
|
|
save the data with the appropriate file type and aux type. If my information is
|
|||
|
|
correct, GIF would get assigned to $C0/$8006, JPEG to $C0/$0081, and TIFF to
|
|||
|
|
$C0/$0080.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Erick
|
|||
|
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(E.WAGNER.10, CAT16, TOP7, MSG:64/M530;1)
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<<<<< The facility is there for the plug-in to decide upon the correct
|
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""""" type/aux.
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Oh btw, BinHex is almost done...
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(RICHARD.B, CAT16, TOP7, MSG:65/M530;1)
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HYPERTALKING Over Christmas I will be writing some HyperCard stacks on my
|
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"""""""""""" sister-in- law's Mac. I want to use these stacks on four Macs
|
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here at my university, but HyperCard isn't installed on any of the university
|
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computers. What will it cost me to have "run-only" capacity on computers that
|
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do not have HyperCard installed? Users will be "browsing" or "typing," but not
|
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using higher levels.
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More on topic... how much trouble should I anticipate learning to use the Mac
|
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HyperCard after becoming reasonably proficient with HCGS? I'm talking about
|
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straight scripting, not XCMD-stuff.
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Eric ( o= =o === =ooo oo oo= == )
|
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(J.SCHONBLOM, CAT18, TOP6, MSG:5/M530;1)
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>>>>> There is a HyperCard 2.2 Player over in the Mac RT. I couldn't find
|
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""""" any limitations on its distrubution in the (meager) documentation.
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Is that what you're looking for?
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John.
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(J.LAWRENCE9, CAT18, TOP6, MSG:6/M530;1)
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>>>>> That sounds like what I want. I'm pleased it will be so easy.
|
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""""" [ It's also nice to get a prompt reply in a category that has been idle
|
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so long. ] :)
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Eric ( o= =o === =ooo oo oo= == )
|
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(J.SCHONBLOM, CAT18, TOP6, MSG:7/M530;1)
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FINDER EXTRA QUESTION I am currently writing a FE and have a simple
|
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""""""""""""""""""""" (perhaps) question:
|
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|
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Does the Finder Say anything when a folder is opened using a double click? If
|
|||
|
|
not, is there a way of finding out the paths to the currently open folders??
|
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thanks!!
|
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|
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|
Chris
|
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(C.VAVRUSKA1, CAT20, TOP4, MSG:199/M530;1)
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BRUTAL BACKUPS Just thought I'd share something with you:
|
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""""""""""""""
|
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|
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I read on csa2 that Brutal Deluxe lost the entire source code for their version
|
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|
|
of 6.01.1 or 6.02 via a hard drive crash. For some reason, I ain't buying it.
|
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|
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With all of the problems with AWGS and Claris "misplacing" their source code,
|
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|
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companies and developers have to have more than one copy. I'm sure those of you
|
|||
|
|
working on this project have bits and pieces of it while others have the entire
|
|||
|
|
thing.
|
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|
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|
|
For Brutal Deluxe, a well known and reputable(?) GS software maker to have one
|
|||
|
|
copy of source code for a MAJOR project is downright absurd and assinine.
|
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|
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|
|
Andy
|
|||
|
|
(L.MIDDLETON3, CAT24, TOP13, MSG:15/M530;1)
|
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|
|||
|
|
>>>>> It's been pretty well known for some time that Brutal has said that
|
|||
|
|
""""" whatever source they had for their proposed system software update is on
|
|||
|
|
a now-dead hard drive. In fact, they discussed that in an RTC that was held in
|
|||
|
|
the A2 RT quite some time ago.
|
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|
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|
|
I'm pretty sure Claris didn't "lose" the source for AWGS; it's just that the
|
|||
|
|
source was spaghetti. There's also the matter of whether or not QC felt it was
|
|||
|
|
financially viable to have someone work on it. . .
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
> For Brutal Deluxe, a well known and reputable(?) GS software maker to
|
|||
|
|
> have one copy of source code for a MAJOR project is downright absurd and
|
|||
|
|
> assinine.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
For anyone to have only one copy of the source code for a major project is
|
|||
|
|
absurd and assinine.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Ryan
|
|||
|
|
Coffee: Good for America
|
|||
|
|
(R.SUENAGA1, CAT24, TOP13, MSG:17/M530;1)
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
INTEGER BASIC UPGRADED Integer BASIC 1.0.2
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""" -------------------
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Integer BASIC has been upgraded. The upgrade fixes both known bugs in this
|
|||
|
|
small sample compiler.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Integer BASIC is a small demonstration compiler written in Pascal and assembly
|
|||
|
|
language. It comes with source code and a book that gives a brief introduction
|
|||
|
|
to compilers.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Just $30.00, it's worth the price for the classics disk, which revives old
|
|||
|
|
Integer BASIC programs--some written by Woz himself--running in compiled 65816
|
|||
|
|
native code!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The upgrade is $5 to registered owners of ORCA/Integer BASIC. The upgrade is
|
|||
|
|
free if you are ordering anything else.
|
|||
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, CAT36, TOP12, MSG:30/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> > Integer BASIC 1.0.2
|
|||
|
|
""""" > Just $30.00
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Somehow, I had formed the impression that the Integer BASIC compiler was more
|
|||
|
|
expensive than this. And, Lawsy me, Christmas is a-comin'... hmm.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Doug C.
|
|||
|
|
(EDITOR.A2, CAT36, TOP12, MSG:32/M530;1)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
PROGRAMMING IN PASCAL QUESTIONS Hopefully, someone can help me out here.
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
I'm slowly working my way through Mike Westerfield's "Programming the Toolbox in
|
|||
|
|
Pascal", and I've got a few questions.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1. On page 86 in chapter 5, (the Windows chapter), at the bottom of the page,
|
|||
|
|
there is an example function to open a new window. In the constants section of
|
|||
|
|
the function is the following:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
const
|
|||
|
|
rWindParam1 = $800E; {resource ID}
|
|||
|
|
wrNum = 1001; {window resource number}
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The comments are what bother me, and I'm thinking it's just a semantics problem.
|
|||
|
|
It seems to me that rWindParam1 should be the window resource number (or
|
|||
|
|
resource _type_), and wrNum should be the resource ID, especially since on page
|
|||
|
|
403, it shows the resource type being the second to last parameter passed. Are
|
|||
|
|
the comments on page 83 a typo? (I hope so, or I _really_ don't understand this
|
|||
|
|
stuff ;)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2. I'm trying to concurrently use DesignMaster to develop my resources for
|
|||
|
|
windows, menus etc, but when I create a window in DesignMaster, it wants to put
|
|||
|
|
the window title in a rPstring resource, which doesn't hurt my feelings any, but
|
|||
|
|
how do I make the NewWindow2 call from the pascal side then?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3. Can you freely mix and match hex and decimal in the resource definitions and
|
|||
|
|
toolbox calls? It seemed that when we were defining the menus in Chapter 3, we
|
|||
|
|
were using decimal numbers for the resource IDs, but when we got to the windows
|
|||
|
|
chapter, we suddenly switched to using hex numbers in the calls and definitions.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thanks for any insight you might have.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
________
|
|||
|
|
|homas
|
|||
|
|
(T.COMPTER, CAT36, TOP22, MSG:10/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>>>> I'm not familiar with Mike's manual, however you are correct in
|
|||
|
|
""""" assuming that (rWindParam1 = $800E) is in fact a resource type, and
|
|||
|
|
(wrNum = 1001) is a resource ID. Unless of course Mike's trying hard to confuse
|
|||
|
|
the hell out of people, which I seriously doubt. :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As for DesignMaster, again Mike will be able to comment better, but it was
|
|||
|
|
designed as a prototyping tool (specifically for the Dialog Manager), and not a
|
|||
|
|
resource editor. If you can, try and find where you can buy a copy of Genesys.
|
|||
|
|
It's a little buggy, but not as buggy as DesignMaster, and was written with
|
|||
|
|
resources in mind.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All toolbox calls accept hexdecimal values. It is at the compiler or assembly
|
|||
|
|
level where the base differs. For example, in pascal, the following two
|
|||
|
|
statements would be equivalent:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
myVariable := 10;
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
myVariable := $0A;
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
When the compiler generates code, the 10 is translated to $000A.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
So basically, you can use whatever base you're comfortable with, although we're
|
|||
|
|
taught to count in base 10, so why not stick to it. What you may have seen is an
|
|||
|
|
example where it is handy to use hexadecimal. For example, say you had a window
|
|||
|
|
with a control list, and the control list's ID was $00000001, you could group
|
|||
|
|
the controls for that list together by merging them with $0001, so you would
|
|||
|
|
have a list of control with IDs such as:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
$00010001
|
|||
|
|
$12340001
|
|||
|
|
$43210001
|
|||
|
|
$10030001
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Going back, you can easily see that they're grouped together. In decimal, their
|
|||
|
|
values would be
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
65537
|
|||
|
|
305397761
|
|||
|
|
1126236161
|
|||
|
|
268632065 (OK, I specifically picked a horrid example. :-)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
You can define them with either base, but hexadecimal just makes for sense.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Regards,
|
|||
|
|
Richard
|
|||
|
|
(RICHARD.B, CAT36, TOP22, MSG:11/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
<<<<< >>> Richard.B
|
|||
|
|
"""""
|
|||
|
|
> I'm not familiar with Mike's manual, however you are correct in assuming
|
|||
|
|
> that (rWindParam1 = $800E) is in fact a resource type, and (wrNum =
|
|||
|
|
> 1001) is a resource ID.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Whew! so I'm _not_ crazy! :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> Unless of course Mike's trying hard to confuse the hell out of people,
|
|||
|
|
> which I seriously doubt. :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was further confused because it's the same way in the Toolbox in 'C' course as
|
|||
|
|
well.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
> If you can, try and find where you can buy a copy of Genesys. It's a
|
|||
|
|
> little buggy, but not as buggy as DesignMaster, and was written with
|
|||
|
|
> resources in mind.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I'll do that, thanks. I take it that it's no longer available new?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thanks so much for your quick and helpful reply. The bit about the control list
|
|||
|
|
went a little over my head, but I haven't gotten to that chapter yet, so perhaps
|
|||
|
|
it will be clear when I do.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
________
|
|||
|
|
|homas
|
|||
|
|
(T.COMPTER, CAT36, TOP22, MSG:12/M530;1)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
[EOA]
|
|||
|
|
[SOF]//////////////////////////////
|
|||
|
|
SOFTVIEW A2 /
|
|||
|
|
/////////////////////////////////
|
|||
|
|
Quick Click Morph
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
by Douglas Cuff
|
|||
|
|
[D.CUFF]
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Title: Quick Click Morph v1.0.1
|
|||
|
|
Author: Mike Westerfield
|
|||
|
|
Price: $60
|
|||
|
|
Required: Apple IIgs; System 6.0.1; 1.125 megs
|
|||
|
|
Recommended: accelerator; hard drive; extra memory
|
|||
|
|
Publisher: Byte Works, Inc.
|
|||
|
|
8000 Wagon Mound Drive NW
|
|||
|
|
Albuquerque, NM 87120
|
|||
|
|
(505) 898-8183
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
[*][*][*]
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you've watched a transformation scene in a recent movie, commercial, or
|
|||
|
|
even a television show, then chances are you've seen morphing. Morph is short
|
|||
|
|
for metamorphosis--a complete change of form, structure, or substance. It's
|
|||
|
|
visually arresting to see something--animal, mineral, or vegetable--stretch
|
|||
|
|
and/or fall in on itself to form something new.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The first time I saw morphing, it was a big-deal special effect in a 1988
|
|||
|
|
film called _Willow_. A spell was cast, and a small object transformed into
|
|||
|
|
several animals--ostrich and lion among them--before settling into a human form.
|
|||
|
|
These days, you can see morphing on the opening credits for the TV sitcom
|
|||
|
|
_Roseanne_... still pictures of the principal actors from various seasons morph
|
|||
|
|
to show you how far they--or their cosmetic surgeons--have come.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In 1995, at the same time _Roseanne_ proved that morphing was within the
|
|||
|
|
budget of a television program, Mike Westerfield proved that it was possible on
|
|||
|
|
the Apple IIgs with Quick Click Morph.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was pleasantly surprised at how simple it was to create a morph with QCM.
|
|||
|
|
I had been thinking of the process as complicated, and it really isn't at all.
|
|||
|
|
You load two pictures you want to morph between, then click a few times to
|
|||
|
|
establish boundaries for the morphing. QCM steps in and creates all the
|
|||
|
|
in-between frames.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
MORPHING 101 The thing to keep in mind is that morphing is just an
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""" animation technique. QCM allows you to focus on this one
|
|||
|
|
technique. It's as if QCM is one feature of an animation package, so naturally
|
|||
|
|
it's simple to understand and use.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Practically the only concepts you have to learn are those of key frames,
|
|||
|
|
tween frames, and morph control point. Key frames are the pictures you load
|
|||
|
|
into QCM (IIgs format or TIFF, which is very popular on Mac and Windows
|
|||
|
|
platforms). Tween frames are the pictures between the key frames. Morphing
|
|||
|
|
involves two simultaneous techniques--fading and stretching. Morph control
|
|||
|
|
points look after the stretching.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you've seen any ads or demos for Quick Click Morph, you've probably seen
|
|||
|
|
the little girl morphed into a cat. To achieve this effect, it's important to
|
|||
|
|
have the cat's pointy ears grow out of the girl's head. You want to stretch a
|
|||
|
|
gentle curve into a triangular shape, so you create three control points at the
|
|||
|
|
angles of the triangle.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All the complicated work is done by the computer. It compares each picture
|
|||
|
|
using an algorithm too complicated for my brain, and works out how much to fade
|
|||
|
|
and stretch a picture.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Morphs over space have gotten all the noise--a girl transforms into a cat.
|
|||
|
|
Much more impressive to my eyes are morphs over time--like the ones at the start
|
|||
|
|
of _Roseanne_. The evolution morph included with QCM also demonstrates this
|
|||
|
|
well. Let me use a combination space/time morph to explain how Quick Click
|
|||
|
|
Morph works and how well it does its job.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
BEGIN METAMORPHOSIS Let's start with images of three generations--my
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""" father, myself, and my son. (I don't actually have any
|
|||
|
|
children, except for the purposes of this review.) The first key frame loaded
|
|||
|
|
is my father, the second is me, and the third is my son. We're going to be
|
|||
|
|
looking at family resemblance.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The first thing to do is create some control points on the picture of my
|
|||
|
|
father. Control points for each of the eyes make a good start, then add more
|
|||
|
|
control points for the nose, mouth, and ears. That's enough to begin. As we
|
|||
|
|
move the cursor to each of these places and click the mouse button, QCM draws a
|
|||
|
|
small cross to indicate the control point. When you click to create a point,
|
|||
|
|
the cross is red. When you click to create a second point, the first cross
|
|||
|
|
turns green--the active point is always red.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(I really wish Westerfield hadn't chosen red and green. I'm red-green
|
|||
|
|
color-blind, and that's a fairly common form of color-blindness. I can tell the
|
|||
|
|
difference when the crosses are on light backgrounds, but on dark backgrounds,
|
|||
|
|
there's a lot of squinting and even more wild guessing.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
After you've clicked to create the control points on the picture of my
|
|||
|
|
father, flip to the next key frame and look at the picture of me. The control
|
|||
|
|
points are drawn on this frame too, but not exactly in the right positions. My
|
|||
|
|
father's face is a little broader than mine, so the control point for the left
|
|||
|
|
eye is fine, but the control point for the right is on my right temple. At this
|
|||
|
|
point, you should drag any errant control points so that they correspond to the
|
|||
|
|
correct positions.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The morph will work a lot better if all the key frames are about the same
|
|||
|
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size. There's almost no point is using a picture of my father that takes up the
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entire screen if my picture barely takes up a quarter of the screen. The
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transition wouldn't be smooth at all. The same objection applies to positioning
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of pictures, even if they are the same size. If my father's head is near the
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top of the frame, and my head is the near the bottom, that transition won't be
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smooth either.
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Fortunately, Quick Click Morph allows you to resize and reposition your key
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frames. The manual advises you that it's better to use a full-featured paint
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program to do this, but the program gives you the capability anyway.
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(One thing that a full-featured paint program does that QCM doesn't is
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allow you to eliminate background clutter. My picture of my father has a
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background of shelves of books, and my picture of me has a medium-gray
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background. I eliminated both backgrounds with Platinum Paint. It wasn't
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easy--it made me appreciate just how talented airbrush artists really are. Tip:
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Once I had turned both backgrounds pure white, I used a round paintbrush and the
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smooth mode to make my ragged airbrush technique look a lot less distracting.)
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Let's get back to our morph: we've created the control points on the
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picture of my father, and dragged the same points into the correct positions on
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my picture. The next thing to do is drag the same points into corresponding
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position on the picture of my son, right? Not quite.
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Each transition in a morph sequence must be handled separately. When you
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view the finished movie, it'll look like father morphing into son and then into
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grandson--beginning, middle, and ending--but it's really two sequences, father
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(begin) into son (end) and son (begin) into grandson (end).
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That means you have to place all the control points of my picture all over
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again. Unfortunately, there's no shortcut for this. You can't select all the
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control points from the end of the first transition, copy them, and paste them
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onto the start of the second transition. It is very important to think of each
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morphing sequence as its own transition, but it's a pity points can't be copied
|
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from one sequence to another.
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The concept of separate sequences is important. Just because father into
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son used 9 tween frames is no reason that son into grandson has to use the same
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number. The second transition could take 5 frames, or 13. Also, if my father
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and I resemble each other a lot, then perhaps 6 control points are all that are
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needed. If my son and I don't resemble each other as much, then 18 control
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points might be necessary to create a really smooth transition.
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Another aspect of each transition is the speed of each fade. There are
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three speeds--slow, normal, and fast--and both the outgoing image and the
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incoming image have a speed assigned. For photographs, the manual recommends
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"slow in, slow out". For line drawings (like most comic strips and cartoons),
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"fast in, fast out" is recommended.
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MEASURING UP How well does Quick Click Morph perform? Here's how to sum
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"""""""""""" it up: it's fun, easy... and slow. To be fair, none of the
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parts that involve the user are slow. But the part that involves letting the
|
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|
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computer work out its algorithm is very slow. Even with a ZipGS or TransWarp GS
|
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|
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accelerator installed. We're talking hours.
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The main factors that influence how long a morph takes are the size of the
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frame, the number of control points, and how many colors are used. QCM allows
|
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for a creditable number of colors to be displayed--you're not limited to the 16
|
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|
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normally available in 320-mode or the 4 available in 640-mode. If you're using
|
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|
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a TIFF graphic, you can have up to 256 colors (although you'd be unwise to go to
|
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|
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that extreme).
|
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|
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The number of control points greatly influences the speed of a morph, so
|
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|
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it's a pity that there's is no way to tell how many points are used in a
|
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|
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transition. Except by counting them on the screen. In a transition that uses
|
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|
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many control points, they may be so close together that counting them isn't
|
|||
|
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possible.
|
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|
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|
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When Westerfield wrote QCM, he seemed to be aware of the fact that
|
|||
|
|
producing finished morphs takes a long time. He allowed the user to interrupt
|
|||
|
|
the morphs and save them for another time. Saved morphs keep track of which
|
|||
|
|
frames have been morphed, so that they don't have to be re-morphed when the file
|
|||
|
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is loaded again. As a morph takes place, each is frame is displayed on the
|
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|
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screen to give you an idea of what the metamorphosis looks like so far.
|
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|
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|
|
The manual also recommends a technique to help save you time. Suppose you
|
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|
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have the key frame of my father, then 3 tween frames, and the key frame of me.
|
|||
|
|
If you move to the second tween frame, which is the exact middle of the
|
|||
|
|
sequence, and morph just that one frame, you'll get a rough idea of how smooth
|
|||
|
|
the transition will be. This is obviously much faster than morphing all the
|
|||
|
|
tween frames and then viewing the entire transition.
|
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|
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|
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|
|
You have to figure out for yourself which the middle tween frame is, and
|
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|
|
then you have to count carefully as you advance the frames one by one. The only
|
|||
|
|
way to find out which frame you're in is rather clumsy--choose Save Frame As...
|
|||
|
|
from the Frame menu, and notice the default filename that QCM has assigned it.
|
|||
|
|
Then click the Cancel button, since you probably don't really want to save the
|
|||
|
|
frame. As I said, this is clumsy.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Even morphing that single middle frame is not quick--most frames I morphed
|
|||
|
|
were from 4 to 6 minutes. If you have a lot of tween frames--and frankly, 9
|
|||
|
|
tween frames is not a lot--then you can quickly see how each sequence can take
|
|||
|
|
time to morph. And that's just for the transition from father to son. There's
|
|||
|
|
still the son-grandson transition to morph.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SPECIFICS I hope this talk of how slow Quick Click Morph can be isn't
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" putting you off, because we're about to descend to specifics:
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
The Apple IIgs graphic screen is 320 pixels by 200 pixels, or 640x200,
|
|||
|
|
depending on which mode you're in. Quite a lot of graphics are in 320 mode, so
|
|||
|
|
we'll look at that mode. Frankly, you'd have to be crazy to morph the entire
|
|||
|
|
320x200 area. It could take a long time. So for our test, I've chosen an area
|
|||
|
|
of 140x145 pixels. All of our images--my father, myself, and my son--are
|
|||
|
|
grayscale (B&W) pictures, using a paltry 16 "colors" (grays) each.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Let's create 38 control points for each of the two transitions. (That
|
|||
|
|
might sound like a lot, but it's not.) Let's have 9 tween frames for each
|
|||
|
|
transition, and create just the midpoint tween frame. In my example, with a 8
|
|||
|
|
mHz ZipGS, it took just under 6 minutes to morph each frame, or 12 minutes for
|
|||
|
|
midpoint frames for both transitions.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
At this point--with just 3 key frames and 2 tween frames, let's save the
|
|||
|
|
morph file to see how big it is: 189K. Slightly less than a quarter of the
|
|||
|
|
capacity of a 3.5" disk (800K). We'll come back to this later.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Neither of the transitions looks exactly right, so we'll add 8 more control
|
|||
|
|
points to each, making a total of 46 for each sequence. Since we've added
|
|||
|
|
control points, we have to morph the midpoint frame all over again. Those 8
|
|||
|
|
control points have added a full minute to the morph--it took just over 7
|
|||
|
|
minutes this time.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
But it was worth it! The morphs look much smoother now. We can now tell
|
|||
|
|
QCM to morph all the frames in all the sequences, and it will work away happily
|
|||
|
|
without any further input from us. We can walk away and leave the IIgs running.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
(One slightly quirky note: when creating a morph with 4 key frames, I was
|
|||
|
|
obliged to stop the morph during the third and final sequence. When I resumed,
|
|||
|
|
the display read "Sequence 1 of 3"--or possibly "Sequence 1 of 1"--instead of
|
|||
|
|
"Sequence 3 of 3". That worried me--I was afraid QCM had forgotten that
|
|||
|
|
sequences 1 and 2 were complete, and that 2 hours of work was being done over
|
|||
|
|
again. I shouldn't have worried. Despite the display, QCM was working on the
|
|||
|
|
third and final sequence. Phew.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Walking away from the IIgs is really a good idea, because it has 16 frames
|
|||
|
|
to morph at over 7 minutes a frame. (Yes, 16 frames. No, not 18. We've
|
|||
|
|
already morphed the midpoint frame, and QCM won't make us do it over again.)
|
|||
|
|
It's going to take roughly 2 hours to complete the entire morph--and it would
|
|||
|
|
have been 2 and 1/4 hours if we hadn't done the midpoint frames first.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
When I was writing this review, I was able to cheat on a grand scale: my
|
|||
|
|
wife had gone off to class, leaving her similarly-accelerated free for hours. I
|
|||
|
|
just set the morph going and continued writing on my own computer. But
|
|||
|
|
supposing I hadn't been able to cheat? Two hours is a long time to wait to get
|
|||
|
|
your computer back.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
With all the morphing done, let's save the 3 key frames and 18 tween frames
|
|||
|
|
to disk. The morph file has almost doubled in size--it's 360K now.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Even now, we're not done. We've just created the morph. Now we have to
|
|||
|
|
turn the morph into a movie--an animation that anyone can see, even if they
|
|||
|
|
don't own Quick Click Morph. It is possible to view this animation without
|
|||
|
|
leaving QCM--if it's short and/or if you have a lot of memory. If you run out
|
|||
|
|
of memory--as I did when trying to view my 3-key-frame morph--you can save the
|
|||
|
|
movie to disk. (The movie is even larger than the morph--486K; over half the
|
|||
|
|
capacity of a 3.5" disk.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I'm delighted to report that turning a morph into a movie takes no
|
|||
|
|
appreciable time at all. If you've saved your movie to disk, you do have to
|
|||
|
|
quit out of QCM and run an animation player--or use an NDA animation player like
|
|||
|
|
ShowMe. There's a player included with QCM. It's a nuisance to have to quit,
|
|||
|
|
but animation has always been a memory-intensive process--this is hardly the
|
|||
|
|
fault of QCM.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Creating a morph is a process that demands a long time and a fair amount of
|
|||
|
|
disk space. I feel I should emphasize that QCM is not slow when accepting input
|
|||
|
|
from you, the user. When you're defining your morph, QCM is quick and easy.
|
|||
|
|
When it's time to create the morph, it's very slow.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Quick Click Morph makes it easy to create morphs--but that's not the same
|
|||
|
|
as saying it's easy to create good morphs. You could create a morph that just
|
|||
|
|
uses 6 control points, but it's probably not going to be very smooth. Even if
|
|||
|
|
you use a lot of control points, QCM has some limitations. Don't look for
|
|||
|
|
Hollywood-quality morphs. Sometimes the stretching effect takes a back seat to
|
|||
|
|
the fading effect. For example, in the well-known girl-into-cat morph, the
|
|||
|
|
cat's ears are supposed to grow out of the girl's head. That does happen, but
|
|||
|
|
not subtly enough for my taste. As early as the first tween frame--the frame
|
|||
|
|
immediately following the key frame of the girl in her natural state--the ears
|
|||
|
|
have started to fade in at approximately their natural height (though a quarter
|
|||
|
|
of their natural size).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
GOODIES One feature that makes Quick Click Morph particularly useful is
|
|||
|
|
""""""" the ability to save a morphed frame. This feature has three
|
|||
|
|
immediately obvious uses.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
First, let's say you've been working on a key frame, and have 50 control
|
|||
|
|
points placed. You suddenly decide you should have removed all the background
|
|||
|
|
detail--but you don't want to have start over and place all those points again.
|
|||
|
|
Just save the frame, import it into a paint program, and manipulate it. As long
|
|||
|
|
as you don't change the frame's size or position--very hard to do
|
|||
|
|
accidentally!--you load the altered picture back into QCM by using the Update
|
|||
|
|
Frame command.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Second, you may find that a morphed frame makes a great key frame for
|
|||
|
|
another part of the same morph--or for another morph altogether! With QCM's
|
|||
|
|
save frame feature, you can save a tween frame for later use.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Finally, you may want to use a morphed frame as a still picture somewhere.
|
|||
|
|
I took three pictures of myself from three different years, 1988, 1990, and
|
|||
|
|
1994. My face changed a little in that time, but not a lot. The odd thing is
|
|||
|
|
that none of the three pictures is a particularly good likeness of me... but the
|
|||
|
|
midpoint frame from the 1990-1994 transition is! If I want a picture of myself
|
|||
|
|
that really looks like me, I can use the "fake" picture from "1992". I probably
|
|||
|
|
won't. But I _could_; that's the point. (Incidentally, Genie users can
|
|||
|
|
download a copy of the 6-year morph from the A2 libraries.)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
A feature that Quick Click Morph shares with its older sister, Quick Click
|
|||
|
|
Calc, is file encryption. If you want to keep prying eyes away from your morph
|
|||
|
|
in progress, you can enter a password as you save it. When you load the morph,
|
|||
|
|
you'll be asked for the password before you are allowed to continue work on it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
MANUAL I like the Byte Works manuals, even though certain typographical
|
|||
|
|
"""""" errors--such as "loose" for "lose"--drive the editor in me absolutely
|
|||
|
|
bonkers. This tiny flaw aside, the manual does a good job of explaining
|
|||
|
|
concepts. The tutorial section is a breeze to follow.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Remember how I said that the programmer/program was aware of how long
|
|||
|
|
morphing frames takes? The manual seems to be slightly less aware. It
|
|||
|
|
encourages experimenting with the number of colors (16, 128, 256) and with the
|
|||
|
|
Fade (Slow/Normal/Fast, In/Out). The slowness of the program discourages
|
|||
|
|
morphing. A lot. If you are going to experiment, do it early on with small
|
|||
|
|
frames, few colors, and few control points.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
MOVIE PLAYER The Quick Click Movie Player has features I've seen in other
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""" animation players--slow down, speed up, stop, advance a frame at
|
|||
|
|
a time--but it can also create movie "scripts". This makes a great way to join
|
|||
|
|
separate animations into a longer show.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The manual says that if you want an animation to play twice, just add it to
|
|||
|
|
the script twice in succession. That sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately
|
|||
|
|
the animation has be loaded each time, even though it's the same animation. If
|
|||
|
|
you're loading animations from anything but a superfast hard drive or RAM drive,
|
|||
|
|
the slowdown will annoy you. If there's ever an update, perhaps Westerfield
|
|||
|
|
will allow QCMP to check for replays of a movie already in memory.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
SUMMARY Quick Click Morph is fun, simple to use, and slow. The slowness
|
|||
|
|
""""""" discourages making changes and experimenting, but it's in the nature
|
|||
|
|
of the beast. No matter what computer hardware or software is used, animation
|
|||
|
|
is memory-hungry, disk-hungry, and time-ravenous.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This isn't an "everyday" program--it's like a single feature of a larger
|
|||
|
|
animation program. Even movies that use morphing don't use the technique every
|
|||
|
|
five minutes. You'll probably want to use it sparingly too.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Because you'll be using it sparingly, you might find that the slowness
|
|||
|
|
isn't too big a price to pay--after all, you won't be using Quick Click Morph
|
|||
|
|
every day. Consider this as well: if you need the morphing technique in your
|
|||
|
|
animations, you need this program. Quick Click Morph is the only game in town.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
[EOA]
|
|||
|
|
[PRO]//////////////////////////////
|
|||
|
|
PROFILES
|
|||
|
|
//////////////////////////////////
|
|||
|
|
Who's Who In Apple II
|
|||
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
by Max Jones
|
|||
|
|
[M.JONES145]
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
An Interview with Bret Victor
|
|||
|
|
(C) 1997, Max Jones, _Juiced.GS_
|
|||
|
|
All rights reserved
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Editor's note: Following is an excerpt from an interview conducted by
|
|||
|
|
_Juiced.GS_ with IIgs software author Bret Victor in late December, 1996.
|
|||
|
|
Victor will be the subject of a feature article in the upcoming issue of
|
|||
|
|
_Juiced.GS_ (Winter '97, Volume 2, Issue 1), which will be mailed to subscribers
|
|||
|
|
in late February. The complete transcript of the interview will be available on
|
|||
|
|
the _Juiced.GS_ Collection Shareware '97/Winter two-dist set. Details for
|
|||
|
|
obtaining the collection will be included in the next _Juiced.GS_, the Apple II
|
|||
|
|
world's premier IIgs-specific publication. (See details for obtaining new or
|
|||
|
|
renewal subscriptions to _Juiced.GS_ at the end of this interview.)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
>>> WHO'S WHO? <<<
|
|||
|
|
""""""""""""""""""
|
|||
|
|
~ GenieLamp A2 Profile: Bret Victor
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
A few dedicated software programmers remain in the Apple II world. Their
|
|||
|
|
work contributes immensely to the continued enjoyment those in the Apple II
|
|||
|
|
community get from using their computers. One of those programmers in Bret
|
|||
|
|
Victor, whose recent work for Softdisk Publishing Inc. has revitalized the
|
|||
|
|
_Softdisk G-S_ monthly on-disk publication.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Victor has been using Apple II computers since the second grade. His
|
|||
|
|
parents bought him the first and only computer he's ever owned, an Apple IIgs,
|
|||
|
|
when he was still in elementary school. Through the years he learned to program
|
|||
|
|
the computer and is now the principal contributor to _Softdisk G-S_.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Victor took some time during his recent winter break from college to tell
|
|||
|
|
_Juiced.GS_ and the Apple II community a little more about himself. ...
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Bret> Well, I grew up in a town called Castro Valley, in the East Bay in
|
|||
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"""" California. I guess I did a lot of stuff in high school: I became an
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tutoring, I played soccer and ran track, I did some programming, I played the
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piano, I got a four-point something GPA. A lot of that stuff ended up not
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Track was important, but a couple of hamstring pulls my senior year left me
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unable to compete, which was too bad since I was expected to go to the state
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meet that year. Piano became important once I dumped the classical music and
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Now I'm a sophomore at Cal Tech, where I occassionally attend classes and
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costs way too much. I'm majoring in electrical engineering, which I whimsically
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important part of my life, and track probably will be too once I recover enough
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to seriously compete again.
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Juiced.GS> What got you interested programming for the IIGS? What was
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Bret> Well, I'd always been interested in programming. I'd write cool
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span for any kind of major project. Major projects ended up being set aside for
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other smaller projects, and then abandoned as the smaller projects themselves
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I have quite a few unfinished programs. Most of them, looking back at them
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now, are just as well unfinished, but at the time I was just a kid, and I was
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doing exciting stuff. The exception to all this was TextFighter, which started
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out as doodling in a screen editor while I was coming up with screens for some
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other program I was writing. I drew little text stick figures, and said, hey, I
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wonder if I can get these guys to move around? Once they were moving, that
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naturally led to, hey, I wonder if I can get these guys to hit each other?
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Promising myself that I would return soon to my previous project, I began to
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write a game that would end up going through several rewrites and taking almost
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two years to complete. Of course, I was only working during summer and winter
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breaks, and the occasional weekend.
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TextFighter is still one of the programs that I am the most proud of. I
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sent it Softdisk, they sent me $700, and it ended up co-starring on issue #171
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with some card game. Rather anticlimatic. Maybe it was a learning experience,
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whatever that means.
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Up to this time, I had never learned IIgs-specific programming because I
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figured it would be a waste, since I didn't think I would be staying with the
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IIgs too much longer. But that changed after I had written a cool patch to
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ProSel-8 that made it display a random tagline on the screen. I liked it, but
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most people don't boot into Prosel-8 like I do, so I wondered if I could make a
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tagline appear on the GS/OS splash screen.
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I had never seen a line of 16-bit assembly in my life, but that didn't stop
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me from dissassembling the START.GSOS file and seeing if I could find a place to
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patch. (I remember that it took me a little while to figure out that I needed
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to put the Monitor in 16-bit mode.) In a couple days, I had written my patch. I
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had mostly used the Monitor and mini-assembler, and really had no idea what I
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was doing, but it worked. Then, I decided to put the part that would choose a
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tagline into an INIT file. So I pulled the source code to the "NO IBM" init off
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of A2Pro, saw how an init worked, and soon I had a preliminary version of
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Opening Line. Later, I saw that I could have it show a background picture file
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too (using the low-level loader that was for loading GSOS in the first place).
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Of course, all this time I had no reference manuals whatsoever, and
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everything I knew about IIgs assembly I had learned from hacking system
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software.
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So, I knew IIgs assembly and I knew how to make an INIT file. That was
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enough to let me do all kinds of cool things that I had always wanted to do but
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that I didn't because I thought that there would be effort involved in learning
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16-bit programming. So near the end of that summer, I wrote lots of little
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INITs doing lots of cool, useless things. This was my uselessware series. I
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wrote them to ward off boredom and depression, and to hopefully make other
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people laugh or enjoy their computer more.
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After I got back to school, I wrote PuyoPuyo and some stuff for _Softdisk
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G-S_. Then during the summer, I wrote Operation Lambda and more stuff for
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_Softdisk G-S_. My total program count now is somewhere near twenty-five. And
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I still feel like I don't really know what I'm doing.
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Juiced.GS> You've also done extensive work as a graphic artist for
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""""""""" various IIgs multimedia publications. How did all that came about?
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Bret> As for artwork, the whole Power-GS art thing came as a surprise,
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"""" since I never (and still don't) consider myself to have any artistic
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talent. PongLife (the precursor to Power-GS) had just come out, and fooling
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around in Platinum Paint for some reason one day, I came up with some
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cool-looking PongLife logos, and sent them to the editors. They liked them (or
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more likely, were simply desperate for artwork), and asked me to make more stuff
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for them. So I fooled around some more in Platinum. After a while, I had
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gotten pretty good at fooling around, and was able to make cool screens and
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logos. Which is what I did for Power-GS issues two through six, for the Opening
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Line picture packs, and for LiveWire IIgs. So I'm not bad at graphic design
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(whatever that is), but my artistic skills are still along the lines of the
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TextFighter stick figures.
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Juiced.GS> Your musical background is evident in your work. What all have
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""""""""" you done musically on the IIGS?
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Bret> Well, the first song in Operation Lambda was the first real song I
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"""" ever wrote on the IIgs. The second Lambda song was my second attempt at
|
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computer music, and so on. After the five Lambda songs, I also wrote music for
|
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SurfBurgers and CrossHatch, which are two of my _Softdisk G-S_ games. The
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hardest part was finding instruments. The songs themselves didn't take very
|
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long to write -- I just sat down at SoundSmith and started typing stuff in. The
|
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object was just to make something for the game player to bounce along to while
|
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trying to figure out the game, and I think I achieved that pretty well.
|
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Juiced.GS> How do you go about composing music on your computer and what
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""""""""" hardware/software do you use?
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Bret> I write the songs in Soundsmith, typing all the notes in by hand
|
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"""" because there really isn't any other way to do it. Well, I use the copy
|
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and paste options a lot too, which is pretty evident if you listen to the music.
|
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I don't have or use MIDI.
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Juiced.GS> Operation Lambda's sudden appearance seemed to catch the
|
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""""""""" IIgs community by surprise. Please trace for us the development
|
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process, from inception through implementation to the announcement that the
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program was for sale?
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Bret> Well, if that's the case, then I certainly hope the IIgs community
|
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|
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"""" recovers from their surprise long enough to send me some money. Anyway,
|
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|
I knew I wanted to write a IIgs game over the summer, and I knew I wanted it to
|
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|
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be a logic/thinking game with lots of levels. Other than that, I was clueless.
|
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|
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I started experimenting with ideas similar to "Brix" on the PC, changing and
|
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|
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adding things until I eventually came up with various game elements -- lasers,
|
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|
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mirrors, hostages, a little guy that walks around. The final project happily
|
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|
|
ended up not resembling Brix whatsoever. Once I had my game idea planned out, I
|
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|
|
simply sat down and programmed it. And drew the art and designed the levels and
|
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|
|
wrote the music and wrote the docs and sent it out to beta testers who liked it
|
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|
|
for the most part. Then I uploaded the demo, announced it was for sale, sat
|
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|
|
back, and prepared to be inundated with a veritable landslide of orders and
|
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|
|
letters from my hordes of adoring fans. I'm still waiting on that last step.
|
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|
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Juiced.GS> You didn't think you were going to get through this without me
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" asking about your on-line screen name, did you? Tell us how the
|
|||
|
|
name "Slixter" came about. And while you're at it, what exactly is "Right
|
|||
|
|
Triangle Productions"?
|
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|
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|
|
Bret> In seventh grade I think, I got into an insulting match with
|
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|
|
"""" someone, and the worst he could call me was "slixter", deriding me for
|
|||
|
|
having gone heavy on the hair spray that morning. I thought that was a pretty
|
|||
|
|
cool name, and since I was getting into BBS's at the time, I used it as my
|
|||
|
|
handle. I always thought it would be awesome if people actually _knew_ me by
|
|||
|
|
that handle, and that dream actually came true after uselessware and Power-GS.
|
|||
|
|
I forget how Right Triangle Productions came about, but I used it on
|
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|
|
TextFighter, and every game I've written since then.
|
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|
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|
|
Juiced.GS> You have been around in the Genie A2 Roundtable for as long as
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" I've been associated with the on-line service. When did you first
|
|||
|
|
join Genie's A2 areas, and how close contact do you keep with the RT now? Do you
|
|||
|
|
plan on migrating to Delphi any time soon?
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Bret> I joined Genie a long time ago, starting out with raiding the file
|
|||
|
|
"""" base and eventually using CoPilot to peruse messages. Through my
|
|||
|
|
Power-GS connections I got the job as IIgs art editor for multimedia LiveWire
|
|||
|
|
IIgs, which provided me with enough Genie credit so that I was effectively using
|
|||
|
|
Genie for free, and still am. However, it's about to run out, so I'll probably
|
|||
|
|
be "migrating" to Delphi soon. I was pretty active in A2 during the summer, but
|
|||
|
|
I just don't have the time for CoPilot during the school year.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Juiced.GS> You call some of your programs uselessware, but your
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" _Softdisk G-S_ programs are anything but. I installed PickQuick! on
|
|||
|
|
my system and use it quite a bit. I have also found myself using World Times
|
|||
|
|
Zones, especially when I'm on-line reading messages from folks in other parts of
|
|||
|
|
the world. These are cool as well as useful. The "Mighty" series of desk
|
|||
|
|
accessories also come to mind. Any more of these types of programs up your
|
|||
|
|
sleeve?
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Bret> No uselessware ever appeared on Softdisk. Uselessware was the
|
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|
|
"""" name for a series of freeware INITs I uploaded to Genie in the late
|
|||
|
|
summer of '95. It included ShadyBar, Bender, Boinger, GravityMouse, Horoscope,
|
|||
|
|
and SlixLaunch. As for my future SDGS releases, I have no idea what I'll come
|
|||
|
|
up with next. I never do. I sure hope I think of something.
|
|||
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|
|
|||
|
|
Juiced.GS> Has SDGS already published all of your contributions, or are
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" there still some yet to come? Do you plan to continue developing
|
|||
|
|
software for SDGS?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Bret> Oh, there's plenty more that I've written that they have yet to
|
|||
|
|
"""" publish. Two more issues worth of stuff, at least. I plan on continuing
|
|||
|
|
developing software for SDGS as long as I'm too lazy to find something else to
|
|||
|
|
do that pays more. So that'll probably be quite a while. I'm even working on a
|
|||
|
|
new game right now.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Juiced.GS> Does it seem to you that the IIGS market is shrinking to the
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" point where programmers and developers can no longer afford to
|
|||
|
|
undertake IIGS projects?
|
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|
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|
|
Bret> No, programmers can still -afford- to undertake IIgs projects;
|
|||
|
|
"""" they just can't expect them to be significantly profitable. I think it's
|
|||
|
|
been that way for quite a while. The IIgs has turned back into a hobbyist's
|
|||
|
|
machine, and the only reason to keep programming on it is because you enjoy it,
|
|||
|
|
or you like the IIgs community, or you're too stubborn to make the effort to
|
|||
|
|
branch out. There's still money to be made off of IIgs programs, but it's pocket
|
|||
|
|
change compared to what a good Windows 95 application or Java applet could bring
|
|||
|
|
in. I guess some of us just don't mind that.
|
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|
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|
|
Juiced.GS> It's obvious you have a wide range of talents and interests,
|
|||
|
|
""""""""" and you seem to get many of them working together when you program
|
|||
|
|
the IIGS. Do you ever see yourself specializing in one of those areas (music,
|
|||
|
|
design, programming, etc.), or perhaps using one or more of them to launch a
|
|||
|
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professional career in the computing industry?
|
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Bret> I'd like to become a rock star, but then again, who wouldn't? I
|
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|
|
"""" think my college major is somewhere in the hardware design area, but I
|
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|
still have no idea what I'll be doing in the "real world".
|
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>>> HOW TO OBTAIN BRET VICTOR SOFTWARE <<<
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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|
|
Bret's two commercial titles, Operation Lambda and Opening Line, are available
|
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directly from him. Operation Lambda can be purchased for $25; Opening Line is
|
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|
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$12. Shipping and handling is included in the price.
|
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|
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To purchase either (or both) of Bret's commercial titles, send a check or money
|
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order to him at the following address:
|
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Bret Victor
|
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19253 Parkview Road
|
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Castro Valley, California 94546
|
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For more information, write to Bret at the above address, or contact him via
|
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e-mail at bret@cco.caltech.edu
|
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|
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|
|
An Operation Lambda Demo is available from the Genie A2 Roundtable Library and
|
|||
|
|
other on-line services, as well as various Apple II archives on the Internet.
|
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|
|
PuyoPuyo, the freeware game, is also available from the above on-line resources.
|
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|
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Bret's new work can also be obtained through a subscription to _Softdisk G-S_.
|
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|
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For subscription information and a back issue catalog, contact Softdisk
|
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Publishing Inc. at 1-800-831-2694.
|
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>>> ABOUT JUICED.GS <<<
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""
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_Juiced.GS_ is a quarterly printed magazine dedicated to the people and
|
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products that keep the Apple IIgs going strong. In 1996, the magazine's
|
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inaugural year, _Juiced.GS_ went out to 283 paid subscribers in 42 states and 11
|
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foreign countries.
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SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION:
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A 1997 subscription is available for $14 in the U.S., Canada and Mexico; $20
|
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elsewhere in the world.
|
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A set of the four 1996 issues is also available for $14 in the U.S., Canada and
|
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Mexico; $20 elsewhere.
|
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Renewals: If you were a 1996 subscriber, your subscription expired with the
|
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last issue (Volume 1, Issue 4, Fall '96). If you have not yet renewed your
|
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subscription, or did not also subscribe for 1997 when you purchased your 1996
|
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subscription, now is the time to renew so that reveiving your next issue will
|
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not be delayed.
|
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New subscriptions and renewals should be addressed to:
|
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|
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Max Jones
|
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_Juiced.GS_
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2217 Lakeview drive
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Sullivan, Indiana 47882
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Send checks or money orders in U.S. funds payable to Max Jones. Sorry, no credit
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cards or purchase orders can be accepted.
|
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_Juiced.GS_ now has a home page on the World Wide Web. Pay us a visit the next
|
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time you're cruising the web. The URL is:
|
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http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs
|
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E-mail to _Juiced.GS_ should be directed to:
|
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|
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Genie: M.JONES145
|
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Delphi: JuicedGS
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Internet: m.jones145@genie.com -or- juicedgs@delphi.com
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