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Basically the proof FOR Jesus's exsistance can be found in the follow
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sources:
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Cornelius Tacitus (Annals), Celsus (The True Word), Suetonius (The Lives
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of the Ceasars), Pliny the Younger (Letters), Thallus (Lost Work),
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Flavius Josephus (The Antiquities of the Jews), The Talmund, and the
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Bible itself.
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We'll go over these one at a time:
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Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 A.D.) wrote in his annals the following quote:
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"Christians derived their name and origin from Christ, who, in the reign
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of Tiberius, had suffered death by the sentence of the procurator
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Pontius Pilate" - (Annals 15.44)
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Problems: Scholars widely accept this as a Christian interpolation.
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Pilate is refered to as a procurator - He was a Prefect -
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A totally different title. He refers to the man as
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"Christus" which means "Annointed One" or "Messiah" - NOT
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as Jesus which would have been required to name someone
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by their NAME instead of their TITLE. It is unlikely
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that Tacitus would have found reference to a Messiah in
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Roman Records.
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Celsus wrote in "The True Word" which was written about 178 A.D. The
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historicity of Jesus is presupposed. Celsus's account agrees closely
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with the stories of Jesus found in Talmudic literature, which probably
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were its major source.
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Problems: The time that this was written was at least a hundred
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years too late for it to be a considered source. Since
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the writings agree with Talmunic literature it was most
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likely a copy but it is almost surely a forgery or
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writings based on oral tradition and not fact.
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Suetonius (69-122 A.D.) wrote in "The Lives of the Ceasars" around 120
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A.D. He mentions an agitator named "Chrestus" - "Since the Jews
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constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus..." The
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passage has been used to confirm the historicity of Jesus but it is
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unlikely that it refers to Jesus.
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Problems: Many scholars maintain that it is likely that Suetonius
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is not referring to Jesus at all but to some messianic
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Jewish agitator named "Chrestus". We know on independent
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grounds that there were Jewish mesianic groups in Rome at
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this time. Other scholars have suggested that perhaps
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because of the sameness of the two words Suetonius
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wrongly was led to believe that the rioters were
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Christians. But even if he was referring to Christian
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rioters, this hardly provides any evidence for the
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historicity of Jesus.
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(** Continued in Another Message **)
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(R)eply, (E)mail reply, (F)orum-Op, (T)hread, (P)revious, or (N)ext? ................... . ... ...-.... 1200 N81N ........................ . ... ...-.... 1200 N81N ........................ . ... ...-.... 1200 N81N ........................ . ... ...-.... 1200 N81N ............
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