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Madonna likes it hot,
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but as LYNN HIRSHBERG discovers,
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the hyperdrive diva is becoming
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increasingly isolated behind
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her white-heat fame <20><> just like Marilyn
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Can anyone justify her love?
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On New Year's Eve, Madonna had her fortune told. She was giving a
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party in her Manhattan apartment for forty friends, including her brother
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Christopher and her then boyfriend, Tony War, and one of the guests was a
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palm reader. The first time this woman looked at Madonna's hand, she
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would not read it. She said, I am afraid of your hand, your hand reveals
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too much. But Madonna pressed the woman to tell her what she saw.
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"She looked at my palm," Madonna says a month later, "and she said
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I'm never going to have any children. She said that I had my heart
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broken really badly once and it was a really important relationship in my
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life and it was going to happen again. I asked her, `That's just a
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passing thing, it's not lasting.' I said, `What about my career?' She
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said, `Whatever you're working on now, you're not well suited for.' And
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I was just like, Get the fuck out of here. I was devastated."
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So Madonna, who is thirty-two, did something she never does - she
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got drunk. Two martinis may not sound like a knockout punch, but
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Madonna's body is a temple - she exercises two and half hours every day
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and is a strict vegetarian. She hadn't easten and she had to see to the
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caterers and her friends and her family, and by 9:30 the room was
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spinning. She disappeard into her bedroom and lay down on the bed and
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then went into the bathroom. "I puked and puked and puked," she says.
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"And then I passed out on the marble floor. For the first time in my
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life, I got sick. I lost control. And I missed my party. When I woke
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up, I was in my bed. It was four A.M. I called everyone the next day
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and them how my party went.
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"They all had a good time," she continues, "but that woman..."
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Madonna opens her palm and eyes it suspiciously. "That woman said things
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that made me believe her. And I kept thinking, What a way to start the
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New Year."
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My fantasy was always, Oh, God, I'd love to be Madonna's best
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friend," says Alek Keshishian, the director of Truth or Dare: On the
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road, Behind the Scenes, and in Bed with Madonna, the
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destined-to-be-controversial documentary about her Blond Ambition tour.
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"If I became her best friend, suddenly the world would be my oyster. And
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now we are good friends, and it's like, yeah, the world will be my oyster
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- in a little fishtank." Keshishian laughs. "Just thank God she's the
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pearl," he adds. "But her life is hardly as glamourous as you might
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think."
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Keshishian takes a puff on his cigarette - he is strikingly
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handsome, with long black hair ("Madonna won't let me cut it") and large
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brown eyes. Last night, here in Los Angeles, he showed a rough cut of
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Truth or Dare, scheduled for May release, to a small industry audience.
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The movie, which incorporates concert footage from last year's tour and
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behind the scenes moments with Madonna, her dancers, and the rest of the
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entourage, is remarkably candid and extremely entertaining. Truth or
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Dare has a voyeristic appeal - Madonna allowed Keshishian (and his
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camera) to spend almost every waking moment with her. She is seen without
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makeup, stripped down, and (quite literally) bare. He deftly juxtaposes
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her "real life," which seem rather solitary, with her onstage life, which
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is quite electrifying, thereby demystifying the razzle-dazzle of stardom
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while simultaneously showing Madonna to be a larger-than-life performer.
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Oh and, just for fun, you get to see her go down a water bottle.
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This Madonna is different from the sex-bomb, chock-baby persona she
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usually pushes in public. In the movie, and recently in interviews, she
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appears to have changed, and, as always, when Madonna's mood shifts, so
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does her image.
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Which isn't to say that Madonna's previous incarnations have been
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false - they've all been manifestations of her feelings at the time. The
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Madonna of 1991 appears to be devoutly hardworking, more accessible, and
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rather maternal. Gone is the boy-toy guise, although vestiges still
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remain. "My sister is her own masterpiece," say Christopher Ciccone.
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"Is there any other way to do it right?"
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Keshishian agrees. A Harvard graduate, he met Madonna two and a
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half years ago, but had been fascinated by her since the beginning of her
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career. "And at Harvard," Keshishian says, "I can't say that was always
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considered that cool."
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For his thesis, Keshishian mounted a production of Wuthering
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Heights, set entirely to pre-recoreded pop music. "The voice of Cathy
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was Kate Bush - until she marries Linton," he explains. "And then her
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voice changes to Madonna." Wuthering Heights was a smash and Keshishian
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moved to L.A. He wanted to direct, and got his start directing music
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videos, most notably for Bobby Brown. Through a friend from Harvard who
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had become an agent at CAA, Keshishian met Jane Berliner, who is, along
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with her boss, Ron Meyer, Madonna's agent. "Jane convinced me to show
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this tape of Wuthering Heights to Madonna," Keshishian recalls. "And at
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the end, she said, `I love it. O.K. what do we do?'"
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Despite her enthusiasm, Keshishian didn't hear from Madonna for
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quite a while. She didn't call to ask him to direct "Vogue" or any other
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music videos. "I said tomyself, Go on with your life, Alek. You are not
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going to work with madonna. And then, out of te blue, one afternoon at
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the end of March last year, the phone rings and it's Madonna asking me to
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make his documentary."
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The film, which ended up costing Madonna around $4 million (it will
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be distributed domestically by Miramax), was originally conceived as a
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concert film about the tour. David Fincher, who directed some of
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Madonna's best videos ("Express Yourself," "Vogue"), was scheduled to
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make the movie, but reportedly he and Madonna were romantically involved,
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and when their personal relationship cooled, so did their professional
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alliance.
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When Madonna contacted Keshishian, it was three days before the
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start of the tour, in Japan. "I found Alek quite attractive," she
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recalls. "But I had kept my distance because I never like to have a
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crush on somebody everybody else has a crush on."
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Keshishian was given total access, but instructed his crew never to
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speak to Madonna - and to wear only black so as to be unobtrusive. "I
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would say, `We are not human beings,'" Keshishian recalls. "`We are just
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here to report.'" He got some remarkable footage: Madonna eating
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breakfast in her European hotel room, saying, "Even when I feel like
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shit, they still love me," as fans scream wildly outside her window; a
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depressed Madonna having coffee with pal Sandra Bernhard, who tries to
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cheer her up by asking, "Who would you most want to meet?," to which
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Madonna replies, "I think I've met everybody"; Madonna visiting the grave
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of her mother, whose death when she was six seem to have been the seminal
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event in her life; and a guest appearance of Reason. "This is crazy," he
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says. "Does anyone make a comment when you're doing this film about the
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insanity of doing this in front of the camera?" "Who's anyone?" Madonna
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demans. "Well, anyone who comes into this insane atmosphere," he says.
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Beatty gets the last word when Madonna's doctor asks if she would prefer
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to discuss throat malady off-camera. "turn the caera off?" Beatty says
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in mock horror. "She doesn't want to live off-camera, much less talk."
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Truth or Dare is also racy, and Freddy DeMann, Madonna's manager,
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was initially appalled by the idea of it. "I thought she was exposing
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too much of herself," he says. "But Madonna didn't agree, and when she
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doesn't agree she has a doll, and she squeezes it in all the right
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places, and I feel pain." DeMann laughs, although he is clearly only
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half joking. "But I was wrong about the movie. It works. The makeup is
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off and all the gloves are off, and it's the real real."
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Apparently, part of DeMann's nervousness had to do with the fact
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that all but one of Madonna's dancers are openly gay, and their sexuality
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is very much a part of the movie. In once scene, two men kiss
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passionately while Madonna looks on enthusiastically. "That's my
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favorite scene in the movie," she says. "I love that people are going
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to watch that and go home and talk about it all night long. I live for
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things like that."
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The larger question that the movie, like most documentaries raises
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is: What is real and what is for the benefit of the camera? "People
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will say, `She knows the camera is on, she's just acting,'" says Madonna
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rather defiantly. "But even if I am acting, there's a truth in my
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acting. It's like when you go into a psychiatrist's office and you don't
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really tell them what you did. You lie, but even the lie you've chosen
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to tell is revealing. I wanted people to see that my life isn't so easy,
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and one step further than that is, the movie's not completely me. You
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could watch it and say, I still don't know Madonna, and good. Because
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you will never know the real me. Ever."
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"Whether it's real or is only important for her to know," says
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DeMann. "The fact that it keeps you guessing - well, she's already
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succeeded."
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It's 10:30 on a Friday night and Madonna is walking home after
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dinner. She is amll and pale, and tonight she is dressed like a street
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urchin - a schoolboy's cap covers her hair completely and she wears no
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makeup. "Straight from the cast of Oliver," says Keshishian. "When
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Madonna puts on her cap and overcoat, she looks like a twelve-year-old
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boy. She wore that one day in Los Angeles and we went to the Body Shop,
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this go-godancer place, and when we left, the valet guy goes, `Are you
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leaving so soon? I Hear Madonna's in there.' He was looking right at
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her when he sait it."
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Madonna stares at the ground when she walks, careful not to make eye
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contact with passerby. The strategy works; even though the streets are
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relatively crowded, Madonna walks home without causing a commotion.
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"It's not always this easy," she says. In Europe she is mobbed no
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matter how she dresses, and outside her New York apartment building there
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are nearly always paparazzi and fans lying in wait. The photographers
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seem to upset her the most - their constant presence certainly wreaked
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havoc during her three-and-a-half year to Sean Penn.
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"Sean was very protective of me," she says, rather sadly, as she
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walks by the newsstand at Columbus Circle. "He was like my father in a
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way. He patrolled what I wore. He'd say, `You're not wearing that
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dress. You can see everything in that.' But at least he was paying
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attention to me. At least he had the balls. And I liked his public
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demonstrations of protecting me. In retrospect, I understand why he
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dealt with the press the way he did, but you have to realize it's a
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losing battle. It's not going to get you anywhere, and I don't think
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Sean can give that up. He'll defend you to the death - it's irrational,
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but also noble."
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Madonna says she misses being married, misses the constancy, the
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ongoing domesticity. "When I as married, I did the wash a lot," she says
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almost witfully. "I liked folding Sean's underwear. I like mating
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socks. You know what I love? I love taking the ling out of the lint
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screen."
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Friends claim that Penn truly lover her, but he could not tolerate
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her unshakable drive, her absolute dedication to her career. When
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Madonna speaks abot the breakup, she is caeful, rather guarded. She is
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clearly somewhat conflicted on the subject - Madonna's enough of a good
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Catholic girl to view her divorce as a sacrilege, but she also knows the
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relationship was impossible. "It's a big loss," she says. "But let's
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face it - Sean and I had problems. We had this high-visibility life, and
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what that had a lot to do with the demise of the marriage. When yuo're
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always being watched, you almost want to kill each other.
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Madonna pauses a moment. "I still go to see his movies, though,"
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she says. "I have to see his movies because sometimes that's the only
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way I can see him. It's peculiar - especially with the last one, State
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of Grace, the on he did with his girlfriend - future mother of his
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child." (Penn is engaged to actress Robin Wright and their baby is due
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this month.) "I really wanted to see it and I felt so embarrassed
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because I thought, Everyone's going to see me going into the movie - is
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this pathetic? I don't know, I had to rub my nose in it.
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"And I could go, It's just a movie, they're just acting," Madonna
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continues. "Until it got to the kissing-nipple scene. And then I was
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like, I can't watch this. I am going to throw up. I still feel
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territorial - it's like, Hands off, bitch! I was married to him!"
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In 1989, as she was going through her divorce proceedings, Madonna
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was approached by Warren Beatty to co-star in Dick Tracy. She was
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flattered, and accepted, even though she was offered only scale ($1,440 a
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week) for her performance as Breathless Mahoney. "I was not convinced
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she should do it," says Freddy DeMann. "But Warren Beatty promised me -
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he said, `I will photograph her better than anyone has before.'"
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While making Dick Tracy, Madonna and Beatty became an item, but the
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romance fizzled when the movie was released. Friends offer up reasons
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why: Beatty was unfaithful, Madonna felt used, Beatty lid about his
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trysts, Madonna had some flings of her own, the press drove them crazy,
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Madonna gave up on the relationship, breaking off with Beatty in a
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"You're fired!" "I quit" scenario.
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Although they are still friendly, Beatty is a sore subject with
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Madonna. She's prickly about him. "It's a really hard thing to accept
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in life that no matter what you do you can't change a person," she says,
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heading up Central Park West. "If you say, `I don't want you looking at
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that woman,' they're going to do it anyway. It doesn't matter what you
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say. You want to think that if this person is in love with you, you have
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control over them. But you don't. And to accept that in life is next to
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impossible." Madonna pauses. "Then again," she says, "I want to be a
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fly on the wall for all of Warren Beatty's conversations, but I wouldn't
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want the reverse."
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She smiles - she understands the basic contradiction here, but she
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doesn't care; she still wants her way. It is an endlessly frustrating
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fact that the stubbornness and singled-mindedness that make a career go
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are the same traits that can destroy a relationship. One works, the
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other doesn't. "I'd go, `Warren, did you really chase that girl for a
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year?!?' And he'd say, `Nah, it's all lies.' I should have known
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better. I was unrealistic, but the, you always think you're going to be
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the one."
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Madonna has arrived at her apartment building. As she approaches, a
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photographer jumps out, assumes a low angle, and starts shooting. He is
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also talking - "Madonna, I'm sorry. Madonna, look at me. I'm sorry.
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Just a picture." Madonna doesn't look or stop - she just keeps walking.
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The photographer, who is crouching, loses his balance and falls over.
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This year I couldn't do anything to stay out of trouble," says
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Madonna. She is eating minestrone soup and Caesar salad in a small
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Italian restaurant in Manhattan. She sounds geuinely exasperated. "I
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know I like to provoke, but this year has been like a train out of
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control."
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Madonna has her schoolboy cap firmly in place, an no one in the
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restaurant looks up from his pasta. Blondness, she says, would be a dead
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giveaway. But even without the hat, she might escape notice - tonight,
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Madonna doesn't look like the sex siren the world is used to ogling. She
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looks, instead, a bit weary - it's been an exhausting few months, what
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with her "Justify My Love" video being banned from MTV, and accusations
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from the Simon Wiesenthal Center that the lyrics of "The Beast Within,"
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the remix of "Justify My Love," are anti-Semitic. Then there are the
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charges that if you play the single backward there's a hidden message for
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worshipers of Satan.
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And yet the controversies have resulted in huge exposure and even
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huger profit. "Madonna can turn catastrophes into triumphs," says
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Seymour Stein, president of Sire, her record company. "When I saw the
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`Justify My Love' video, I went, `Ohhhhhh.' I knew there would be
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problems. But it's turned out to be the biggest selling video of its
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type."
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Which is what usually happens with Madonna. In 1990, Forbes
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estimated her pre-tax income at $39 million (and her earnings since 1986
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at $125 million); her Blond Ambition tour sold out in twenty-seven cities;
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her concert on HBO was the highest-rated nonsprts event ever on that
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network; and her albums went double-platnum. "But at what cost?" asks
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Christopher Ciccone, who was also the art director of the Blond Ambition
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tour. "People who don't think the controversis and the press affect her
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are wrong. She doesn't work up a strategy for all this attention. It's
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just who she is and what she does. And there is definitely a cost."
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Which isn't to say that Madonna has any real regrets. Or, to be
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exact, "I have so many," she says, "and I have none. I wish I hadn't
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done a lot of things, but, on the other hand, if I hadn't I wouldn't be
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here." She pauses. "But, then again, nobody works the way I work."
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It's that discipline, mathced with talent, drive, and ambition, that
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propels her. "I have an iron will," she says, eating her Caesar. "And
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all of my will has always been to conquer some horrible feeling of
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inadequacy. I'm always struggling with that fear. I push past one spell
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of it and discover myself as a special human being and then I get to
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another stage and think I'm mediocre and uninteresting. And I find a way
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to get myself out of that. Again and again. My drive in life is from
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this horrible fear of being mediocre. And that's always pushing me,
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pushing me. Becuase even though I've become Somebody, I still have to
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prove that I'm Somebody. My struggle has never ended and it probably
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never will."
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That struggle has a great deal to do with maintaining control,
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control being Madonna's primary desire. And these days she's feeling
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somewhat out of control. The "Justify My Love" ruckus went much further
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than she had anitcipated, and for most of 1991 she will be making movies,
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a medium that has been risky for her in the past. Since the beginning of
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her career, Madonna has longed for movie stardom. It's a land she has
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yet to conquer, and there have been some rather stunning missteps along
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the way - Shanghai Surprise and Who's That Girl?, for instance. It isn't
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clear whether she can successfully play a character other than herself.
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She is surprisingly self-conscious in movies, although later this year
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she will star in Evita, directed by Glenn Gordon Caron (who created the
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TV show Moonlighting), which would seem like perect casting. In Woody
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Allen's latest movie she plays an acrobat, which is a notion that both
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flatters and frustrates her.
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"To me, the whole process of being a brushstroke in someone else's
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painting is a little difficult," Madonna says. "I'm used to being in
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charge of everything. So on this movie it's hard for me to shut up and
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do my job and, well, O.K., I have this stupid little part and I have to
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sit around on the set and wait all day and then say a few lines and blah,
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|
blah, blah... I can feel all the grips and electricians looking at me -
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|
I'm painfully aware of it. They don't see me as an actress, they see me
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as an icon, and it makes me extremely exhausted."
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Madonns pauses a moment. "Just looking back at the last couple
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weeks, where I've felt completely suicidal and totally unable to sleep, I
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think I may have learned somethings." Like patience? "No. I'll never
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learn patience. But I've learned, watching Woody, how a real artist
|
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works. Woody is a master of getting things out of people in a really
|
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gentle way. He's not a tyrant, and that's good for me to learn because I
|
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|
can be something of a tyrant. In a working situation." Madonna smiles.
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"Well," she says, "in a living situation, too."
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She laughs. She knows that her self-discipline drives people mad,
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but she also believes that it's the key to her sanity. And her success.
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"I'm hardest on myself," she says with great conviction. And there is a
|
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|
very definite and imposed order in the Madonna universe. For instance,
|
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|
her workouts. "If I have a 7 o'clock call for Woody's movie, I'll get up
|
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|
at 4:30 to exercise," she says. "If I don't, I'll never forgive myself.
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|
A lot of people say it's really sick and an obsession. Warren used to
|
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|
say I exercised to avoid depression. And he thought I should just go
|
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|
ahead and stop excercising and allow myself to be depressed. And I'd
|
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|
say, `Warren, I'll just be depressed about not exercising!'"
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|
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|
Madonna takes a sip of white wine. "My whole life is in a constant
|
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|
state of disarray, and the one thing that doesn't change is the workout.
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|
If I had nothing to do, I would stay in the gym forever. It's a great
|
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|
place to work out aggression, or, if you're feeling depressed about
|
|||
|
something, you get on the Lifecycle and you forget it. If you've failed
|
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|
in every way in your day, you've accomplished one thing - you've gotten
|
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|
through your workout and you're not a total piece of shit."
|
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|
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|
And then there are the lists. When she can't sleep, Madonna makes
|
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|
lists of whom to call, what to do, mapped out in half-hour segments that
|
|||
|
include slots for personaly phone calls - "two hours on the phone every
|
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|
morning or I would have any friends" - as well as the business calls to
|
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|
her lawyer, manager, publicist. It's a ritual that borders on the
|
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|
obsessive. "I never take any time off if I can help it," says Madonna.
|
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|
"I've taken three vacations in the last ten years. All of them lasted
|
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|
about a week, and they were all in some tropical place. My boyfriend or
|
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|
husband at the time would want to go, and I'd agree. Actually, I'd
|
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|
finally give in."
|
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|
|
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|
But even on vacation Madonna is a fiend for order. "I have to
|
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|
schedule everything," she says. "And that drives everyone I'm with
|
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|
insane. Everyone. They go, `Can't you just wake up in the morning and
|
|||
|
not plan your day? Can't you just be spontaneous?' And I just can't."
|
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|
|
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|
Madonna laughs and takes a few more bites of salad. A man at a
|
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|
nearby table looks over, stares at her a second, then realizes it's not
|
|||
|
Madonna after all. "I need to have an organized life," she is saying.
|
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|
"And I do. I probably pay a price for that, but this is what I wanted."
|
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|
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
Madonna is perplexed. "Damn it!" she says after a moment's
|
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|
reflection. "Why can't I think of my most recent happiest moment?" She
|
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|
stares a second. "O.K. - I know. It could be right after the maid has
|
|||
|
left for the day. That's my favorite time in the world. Everything's
|
|||
|
perfect - no one's allowed on the bed, no one's allowed to drink out of a
|
|||
|
glass, I don't want anyone to come over, and I just stand around and
|
|||
|
look. And I think I'm in a church, that I'm surrounded by holiness. And
|
|||
|
then it's destroyed." Madonna laughs. "So I guess that's not my
|
|||
|
happiest moment."
|
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|
|
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|
She thinks some more. "O.K. - my most happiest moment recently was
|
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|
when I went home to visit my family for Christmas. And I was sitting on
|
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|
my father's lap and a lot of my brothers and sisters were there. And
|
|||
|
just hanging out and sitting on his lap and feeling like a little girl
|
|||
|
again. And knowing that I was making my father happy. That was my last
|
|||
|
happiest moment.
|
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|
|
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|
"And at home, nobody brings up the fact that I'm a star," she
|
|||
|
continues. "Not one word. At first I thought, Well, how come I'm not
|
|||
|
getting any special treatment? But even though I had to sleep on the
|
|||
|
floor in a sleeping bag, even though I didn't know who else had slept in
|
|||
|
that sleeping bag, the trip was really such a joyous thing for my
|
|||
|
father."
|
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|
|
|||
|
Madonna beams - she likes this memory. Family - whether natural,
|
|||
|
meaning her father and seven brothers and sisters (two are
|
|||
|
half-siblings), or extended, meaning the dancers on her tour and her
|
|||
|
assistant/agent/publicit/manager/lawyer team - is extremely important to
|
|||
|
her. In fact, her business associates are some of her closest friends.
|
|||
|
"People comment on it," she says. "they say, `Do you realize all of your
|
|||
|
friends are on salary to you?' And I say, `Oh, my, I really hadn't
|
|||
|
thought of that, but maybe you could flip it around and think, Well,
|
|||
|
maybe I only work with people I really like.'"
|
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|
|
|||
|
And trust. A large part of the reason for Madonna's success has
|
|||
|
been her faith in the people she works with. "She's in conrol of that
|
|||
|
group," says Jane Berliner. "She's the matriarch of the family."
|
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|
|
|||
|
Madonna structured it that way from the jump - her gift has always
|
|||
|
been to make herself the center of the action. As a child growing up
|
|||
|
outside Detroit, she dreamed of being either an international superstar
|
|||
|
or a nun. "I would say `I'm gonna be a nun' like you would say `I'm
|
|||
|
going to be famous.' Then the nuns announced to me that a girl who
|
|||
|
wanted to be a nun was very modest and not interested in boys. After
|
|||
|
that, my role model was my ballet teacher, who was fabulous and
|
|||
|
demonstrative and extravagant. I wanted to be like him.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"I sometimes think I was born to live up to my name," continues
|
|||
|
Madonns, who was named after her mother. "How could I be anything else
|
|||
|
but what I am having been named Madonna? I would either have ended up a
|
|||
|
nun or this." When she left home at seventeen and moved to New york,
|
|||
|
she planned to be a professional dancer. "i sort of got tired of that
|
|||
|
after a while," she says now, "because it was very difficult and there
|
|||
|
was no money in it." She became interested in acting and was taking
|
|||
|
cleasses when she decided to become a singer. The rest is well
|
|||
|
docmented: she started writing songs, she joing her then boyfriend's
|
|||
|
band, she befriended a D.J., he became her boyfriend, she met this
|
|||
|
person, then another, and the pace started to pick up. From the moment
|
|||
|
she began performing, her goal was clear: Madonna wanted to conquer the
|
|||
|
world. And her clarity of vision was compelling.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Madonna is more sophisticated than she was eight years ago," says
|
|||
|
DeMann, her manager from the start, "but she has the same sensibilities
|
|||
|
as she had on the first day I met her. She had balls then and she has
|
|||
|
them now. I remember when she first walked in my office. I managed
|
|||
|
michael Jackson then. She came in and I was abolutely smitten by her.
|
|||
|
She had three problems that day, three pressing problems, and I said,
|
|||
|
`I'll make three calls and take of your problems.' And I did it. The
|
|||
|
next day she called with five problems. The next day, she had eight.
|
|||
|
The next day, ten. I said, `How can one person have all these problems?'
|
|||
|
She said, `Well, I do.' Madonna has that ability to grab you by the
|
|||
|
lapels and soon all you can think about it her."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The rest of the "family" has a similar response - Madonns is not a
|
|||
|
passive star. She controls all aspects of her career, and she is
|
|||
|
integrally involved with every business decision, whtere it be looking
|
|||
|
over a contract or choosing the plot and look of a video or deciding
|
|||
|
whether or not to endorse a product. "She's a great business-woman,"
|
|||
|
says Seymour Stein. "She's very smart and she trusts her instincts,
|
|||
|
which are great. She also asks a million questions."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And she's stubborn. "I do what I want," says Madonna. "I'm the
|
|||
|
boss. And, quite frankly, a lot of things I've wanted to do have met
|
|||
|
with adversity. I sort of cringe when I have to confront my manager, my
|
|||
|
publicist, whatever. I kind of think of them as parental figures. When
|
|||
|
I tried to explain my stage show to Freddy, I said, `I'm going to be on a
|
|||
|
bed and I'm going to have these two guys with bras on and...' I could
|
|||
|
see he was just dying inside. I have to say, `I'm just going to do this
|
|||
|
and then you'll see.' But there's always this preliminary shit fit and
|
|||
|
then I do what I have to do." She smiles. "And then they like it."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna looks intent - she has very few doubts about her business
|
|||
|
acumen. She loves the game and she is almost completely immune to
|
|||
|
pressure from her advisers or anyone else. And they do pressure her -
|
|||
|
after all, there are massive sums of money at stake. Madonna reportedly
|
|||
|
pays DeMann 10 percent of her income, her business manager, Bert Padell,
|
|||
|
5 percent, and her lawyers around 5 percent, each said to be capped at $1
|
|||
|
million. When she is touring, a tour manager gets 10 percent of the
|
|||
|
concert revenues, and then there is Sire Records, a subsidiary of Time
|
|||
|
Warner, which has made an estimated half a billion on Madonna albums.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"There's a lot of business stuff," Madonna says. "But that didn't
|
|||
|
come as a surpirse. Besides, I love meetings with suits. I live for
|
|||
|
meetings with suits. I love them because I know they had a really boring
|
|||
|
week and I walk in there with my orange velvet leggings and drop popcorn
|
|||
|
in my cleavage and then fish it out and it eat it. I like that. I know
|
|||
|
I'm entertaining them and I know that they know. Obviously, the best
|
|||
|
meetings are with suits that are intelligent, becuase then things are
|
|||
|
operating on a whole other level.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"What you have to understand with Madonna," says DeMann, "is that
|
|||
|
she has substance. People forget that. Since she reinvents herself all
|
|||
|
the time and does these provocative things, people tend to concentrate on
|
|||
|
her image of the moment. But there is a substnace there. If you only
|
|||
|
resort to provocation, you don't last long. Madonna is the biggest star
|
|||
|
in the universe. And she likes the view."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
|||
|
It's a Saturday night in early February and Madonna is sitting on a
|
|||
|
large dark-blue couch in the living room of her Manhattan apartment. SHe
|
|||
|
is discussing wheter or not she would prefer to be male. "Fuck, yeah,"
|
|||
|
she says with great animation. "When I was a little girl, I was insanely
|
|||
|
jealous of my older brothers. They didn't have curfews, they could pee
|
|||
|
standing up, they could take their shirts off in the summer, they got to
|
|||
|
do outdoor work, while we had to do the indoor work. They had so much
|
|||
|
more freedom and I would just mope about that. ANd mope and mope and
|
|||
|
mope about how I wished I was a boy. And then when I was in the ballet
|
|||
|
world I went through another period where I wished I was a boy because I
|
|||
|
just wanted somebody to ask my out on a date." Madonna considers this
|
|||
|
notion for a moment. "Actually," she continues, "it would be great to be
|
|||
|
both sexes. Effeminate men intruqe me more than anything in the world.
|
|||
|
I see them as my alter egos. I feel very drawn to them. I think like a
|
|||
|
guy, but I'm feminine. So I relate to feminine men."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This analysis pleases Madonna and she stretches out on the sofa.
|
|||
|
She looks quite glamorous this evening - the androgynous look it out.
|
|||
|
She is dressed all in white - white Capri pants and a white sweater, and
|
|||
|
her hair, too, looks white-blond. Her lips provide the only spot of
|
|||
|
color - they are bright red. Madonna appears to be striking an elegant
|
|||
|
yet casual pose, perfectly attired for a low-key gathering at home. SHe
|
|||
|
is peppier tonight, more at ease. "Let me give you a tour," she says,
|
|||
|
hopping up from the couch. "An art tour."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna's home seems to cheer her enormously. The seven-and-a-half
|
|||
|
room apartment was renovated and furnished by Christopher Ciccone, and it
|
|||
|
is lovely - simple, yet luch throughout. The furnishings are mostly
|
|||
|
early French Deco, and they complement the art, which is primarily
|
|||
|
Cubist; there are wonderful painintgs by the likes of Tamara de Lempicka
|
|||
|
and L<>ger and photographs by, among others, Kert<72>sz and Weston. "There
|
|||
|
are a lot of naked women in my house," says Madonna. In the hall she
|
|||
|
passes Kert<72>sz of a nude woman squeezing her stomach. "That's like me,"
|
|||
|
she says. "Always looking for fat."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna is endearingly thorough about the tour ("This is my stereo,"
|
|||
|
she says, opening a closet). She is like a child showing off her
|
|||
|
favorite dolls. "This is my prize," she says of a Picasso that hangs
|
|||
|
over her desk. "I don't usually like Dali, but I love this one," she
|
|||
|
says of a particularly beautiful painting, The Veiled Heart, which hangs
|
|||
|
in the living room.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna's bedroom, a pale jewel box of a room, is at the end of the
|
|||
|
hall. "Every girl's dream," she says, leading the way into an enormous
|
|||
|
and extremely well-organized closet. "When I lived with Sean, he loved
|
|||
|
to ball up clothes," she says, looking at her neat rows of shoes. "I'd
|
|||
|
say, `You twisted a Versace suit into a ball and I can't bear it.' I
|
|||
|
would follow him an dtake his things and hang them up. He'd say, `Leave
|
|||
|
me alone. I want to do it this way.' But I just couldn't stand it."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna smiles and heads into her bathroom ("The shower has
|
|||
|
steam!") and back through the bedroom and down the hall to her gym,
|
|||
|
which, not surprisingly, is outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment.
|
|||
|
SHe goes through the gym and into a small maids room and then it's back
|
|||
|
into the kitchen, which is old-fashioned in a high-tech way. "Isn't this
|
|||
|
great?" Madonns says, reaching for a bowl of popcorn on the kitchen
|
|||
|
counter. "I don't have to cook, but other people do."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The apartment was completed last summer, long after Madonna's
|
|||
|
marriage broke up, and it seems very much a lplace for one person. It
|
|||
|
has the feel of a refuge, a controlled, beautiful environment where dirst
|
|||
|
is a memory and each detail is perfect. "Everything is the best," says
|
|||
|
Keshishian, "but nothing is ostentatious."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And yet, and yet, in eery dream home a heartache. "It's something
|
|||
|
of a clich<63>," says Madonna, sitting on a stool in the kithcen, "but you
|
|||
|
can have all the success in the world, and if you don't have someone to
|
|||
|
love, it's certainly not as rewarding. The fulfillment you get from
|
|||
|
another human being - a child, in particular - will always dwarf people
|
|||
|
recognizing you on the street."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Madonna is quiet for a moment. There have been rumors floating abot
|
|||
|
that she was pregnant with Tony Ward's baby and had a miscarriage.
|
|||
|
Madonna's spokesperson has emphatically denied this story. Still,
|
|||
|
motherhood is definitely on her mind. "I long for children," she says.
|
|||
|
"I wish that I was married and in a situation where having a child would
|
|||
|
be possible. People say, `Wait a minute, I'm not interested a cripple.
|
|||
|
I want a father there. I want someone I can depend on."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's a problem - who is the right guy for Madonna? "We talk about
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that all the time," says Keshishian. "I say, `Madonna, you could turn a
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gay man straight! You could ahve any man you want.' And she goes, `No,
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I couldn't. It's easy for you to say, but it's just not true. WHo have
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I met?'".
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Friends say that she was hopeful about Beatty, who is now going out
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with Stephanie Seymour, a twenty-two-year-old model with a baby. And, on
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the surface, Beatty would seem an attractive prospect, assuming she could
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have snagged him: intelligent, successful, and unintimidated by Madonna's
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fame. But firends say that she was too independent and that her
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stubbornness was destructive to the relationship. There are also those
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who say Beatty was only using her to promote his movie.
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"I do wonder," she says, alluding to her past romances. "You know,
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I can think of isolated moments where I could have given in and it would
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have made things better. But, all in all, I'm not with any of the people
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I'm not fro a much larger reason: we just weren't meant to be. If I had
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changed and given in, or what I conceived to be giving in, to certain
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concessions that people had asked of me, maybe the relationships would
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have been successful on the one hand, but then I would have had to give
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up other things in my career. And then I would have been miserable. So
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it's hard to say. I mean, I do look around and go, God, it's great I
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have fame and fortune, but then I see Mia Farrow on the set with her
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baby, na di think she seems absolutely content. She has a huge family,
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and that just seems like the most important thing. And, you know, love
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and everything. I don't really have that, but time hasn't run out for me
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yet."
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Madonna smiles. "I'm not exactly sure who I'm looking for," she
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says. "I wish I knew..." She laughs. "I wonder if I could ever find
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someone like me."
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She ponders this for a second and then breaks out laughing. "If I
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did," she says, "I would probably kill them."ڿ
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& the Temple of the Screaming Electron Taipan Enigma 510/935-5845
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Burn This Flag Zardoz 408/363-9766
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realitycheck Poindexter Fortran 510/527-1662
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Lies Unlimited Mick Freen 801/278-2699
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The New Dork Sublime Biffnix 415/864-DORK
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The Shrine Rif Raf 206/794-6674
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Planet Mirth Simon Jester 510/786-6560
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