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* Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner *
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* A message sub run on Big Boy's BBS, Denver, CO, 303-458-3832, from 10-26-91 *
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* to present. Here's all the posts on this great sub from the start! If you *
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* want to join in, call! *
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 3. Sat 10-26-91 20:09 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Introduction
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Hello, and welcome to Kind Bud's Corner. On this sub we'll be
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discussing the most versatile, profitable, and sustainable natural
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resource on the planet...Hemp.
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With well over 50,000 commercial uses, conservative estimates of its'
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profit potential surpass $500 Billion per year. Industry experts project
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a 12-fold (or greater) increase in hemp earnings, once the trade barriers
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are removed and this valuable cash crop is, again, allowed to compete.
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We'll examine the history of hemp, and it's many uses which include
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paper(1 acre of hemp = 4.1 acres of trees for pulp), fiber (textiles),
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food, fuel(bio-mass), cordage, plastics, fabrication ( including fiber-
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board and other construction materials) medicine, and so forth...Anything
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petroleum does, Hemp can do better!
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We'll talk about the REAL reasons behind the hemp prohibition in 1937,
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and what efforts are being made by the burgeoning H.E.M.P. Movement to
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put an end to this insane and inhumane law. And, We'll look at what you
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and I can do locally....
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I want to hear what you're thinking (whether pro/con/indifferent). And
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Questions...I like Questions.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 4. Sat 10-26-91 20:19 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: "...a remarkable little book..
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...is what Hugh Downs said on ABC's 20/20. He was talking about
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"The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer. It is an excellent primer
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on hemp and can be picked up at The Tattered Cover bookstore for around
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$15...also, by calling 470-1100 from your touch-tone phone and entering
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extension 477, you can hear a 10 minute recording of the Hugh Downs 20/20
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piece. Journalism at its' finest!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 5. Sun 10-27-91 8:26 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: ...can you hear voices?
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Here's Colorado NORML's voice message directory. Use touch-tone phone and
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dial (303) 470-1100. When connected punch in desired ext #
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111...Initial greeting
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222...FAX Mailbox
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123...Special Msg(AIDS sufferer addressing HEMP rally at State Capital
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333...Modem Mailbox
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411...Information
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421...Help in Using This System
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422...How To Leave a Message
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423...How to Send a FAX
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424...How to Receive Our FAX Newsletter
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431...An Introduction to NORML
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441...How to Get Involved
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442...How to Join NORML-Colorado
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443...Coming Events
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444...Chapter Mailing Address
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445...National Office Information
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446...Legislative Alert Signup
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447...Other Organizations
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448...Recommended Reading
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449...Chapter Meetings
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451...Current News
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452...Marijuana and Medicine
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453...The HEMP Patrol
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454...Colorado RoundUp
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456...WECOF: Freedom Fighter Radio Network
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461...Legal Information
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462...Lawyer Referral
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463...State Laws
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464...Urine Testing
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471...Hemp Information
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472...Marijuana and Health
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473...Fuel and Energy
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474...Paper
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475...Fiber
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476...Food and Seed Products
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477...Hugh Downs' ABC 20/20 Program on Hemp
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481...General Information
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491..."The Emperor Wears No Clothes" By Jack Herer
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492...High Times Magazine
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511...Hemp Initiative Project
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 6. Sun 10-27-91 8:40
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Quote for the Day...
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"Make the most of the Indian Hemp seed, and sow it everywhere."
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George Washington
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 8. Sun 10-27-91 11:12 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: D.A.R.E.
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ALSO SEE: 9, 130, 317.
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Thanks for telling me about that meeting. Barring death I'll be there.
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If anybody else want to go, and you live in Aurora, and want to ride with
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me, let me know.
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Now on to the subject...
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The other day my son came home with a nice red ribbon that was insribed
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"Drug Free and Proud". Now on the face of this it would seem like a good
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thing. I would just a soon my kids don't get involved with drugs, and
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stay away from beer and hemp till they are at least sisteen. Sill, I got
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a very uneasy feeling in the pit of my gut.
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The cops say (and we know they NEVER lie) that they are not telling kid to
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turn their parents into the police. Myself, I think that is a bunch of
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Bull Doody. Where would a ten year old kid get the idea to turnhis
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parents into the state, if not from the nice officer Friendly of the
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D.A.R.E. program?
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I think I have a strong enough relationship with my kids that I don't have
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to worry about them turning me in. But that dosn't stop the nagging worry
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sitting in the back of my mind.
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So, how do I as a parent, sit down my ten year old, a child who should
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not have to worry about these things and explain to him the facts of life.
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The goverment's ONLY concern is it's own preservation. The cops are not
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really your friends. And in no case should he trust either one to tell
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the truth.
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I think that's a bit heavy for a kid his age. But now I am faced with
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having to counter what he is being told in school. If I let it go I am
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faced with the posibility of him turning me in, (reguardless of weither or
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not I smoke hemp) or worse yet, the system turning him into another
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trusting, unquestoning drone.
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Putting aside the compairison to "1984", a more real life compairison
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would be Germany in 1937. The schools there also encouraged children to
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turn their parents into the state.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 9. Mon 10-28-91 6:24 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: D.A.R.E./Hitler Youth
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ALSO SEE: 8.
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So very true. The cops don't have 'em wearing brown shirts,yet...but it
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doesn't mean they wouldn't like to. My kids are all in college now, but
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when they were younger, like yours, I had to maintain a sort of on-going
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"de-programming" campaign to keep them from being brainwashed....They were
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able to understand that their teachers weren't necessarily 'bad', just
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ignorant....I don't think that Colorado had any D.A.R.E. programs then.
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Just as an aside, the D.A.R.E. program is the brain child of L.A. Top Cop
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Daryl Gates, who has recieved so much good press lately.
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Colorado NORML and the Rocky Mtn Hemp Network are putting together a
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program called Double-Dare where volunteer-parents are demanding equal
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time in schools to talk paper-fiber-fuel-food-medicine, Bill of Rights,
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etc....I'll be talking to them today and I'll try to get more info.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 11. Tue 10-29-91 6:18
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Public Meeting
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The Rocky Mountain Hemp Network is hosting a public seminar/discussion
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group on Saturday, Nov 2 from 6 pm to 8 pm at 1090 S Wadsworth, suite F.
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This group will continue to meet on the first Saturday of each month
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there-after...
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...also, Rocky Mountain Hemp Network is filing a class-action suit against
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the State of Colorado for witholding medication. Colorado is one of
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several states which recognize the thereaputic application of Cannabis.
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Litigants will include sufferers of Glaucoma,Cancer,AIDS,MS,MD,
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epilepsy,asthma,anorexia, et al....To qualify to participate in the law-
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suit, one must have it in his medical records that an attempt has been
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made to obtain cannabis through legal channels. At the present, all re-
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quests from the states must go through the F.D.A. and then the D.E.A.
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Currently, only thirty-seven people in the U.S. have a legal prescription
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for the herb. Rocky Mountain Hemp has lined up nine litigants and is look-
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ing for more. If you know someone who qualifies, have them call Connie
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at 1-838-1235.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 12. Tue 10-29-91 12:57
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From: Thanatos
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To: Kind Bud, Et Al.
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Subject: Legalization
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ALSO SEE: 13, 15, 16.
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I don't agree with you, Kind Bud.
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I don't see all the uses that you suggest. All I see is that people want
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the option to smoke THC at any time and any place they wish.
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Perhaps all those fabrics and fuels and such are possible, but I don't see
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the supporters of Hemp legalization using it for that now. Most
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supporters are private users of Hemp and they will not, in my option,
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change. Legal or not.
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Let it be said that I also don't support the rights of tobacco smokers. I
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have learned that inhaling smoke of any kind is unhealthy and should not
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be advocated.
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I have also heard that the users of THC are more passive that other
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people. That is fine for avoiding war; My concern is with the already low
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nation production rate in the USA. Do we really need an entire work force
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that is passive?
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Sorry, but I won't be at any of your rallies.
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*>>THANATOS<<*
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 13. Thu 10-31-91 16:53 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Thanatos
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Subject: Legalization
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ALSO SEE: 12.
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I somewhat agree with you. I think some of the proposed uses for hemp are
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a bit on the optomistic side. Things such as fuel are still pretty much
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on the drawing board. And until hemp is legaized, they will stay there.
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But many things such as food, fabric, paper, medicne, and building
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materials are not only proven, but they were widely used until Herst and
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his buddies hatched their scheme.
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As far as paper..
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One acre of hemp can produce as much paper as 4.3 acres of trees. That
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acre of hemp can be replanted and renewed every year. In some areas of
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the country it can be havested twice a year. That 4.3 acres of trees can
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only be harvested every 15 to 30 years.
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The only chem needed to make paper from hemp is Hyd-porxcide (however the
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hell you spell it).
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You don't even want to think abought what goes into wood paper.
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Have you ever picked up a book that is 50+ years old and wondered why it's
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in better shape than a book printed twenty years ago? It's because the
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older book was printed before hemp was outlawed. The hemp paper is acid
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free.
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As far a THC users beind docile and worthless...
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The most sucsessfull person I know smokes hemp. He prefers it to beer,
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and uses it the same way a mature person uses beer.
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He is anything but docile. In fact he has recived a number of awards for
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exelence in his field. But none of this matters, because the instand it
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were to become public that he smoked hemp, he would be labled a "usless,
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lazy, no good pervert".
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 14. Thu 10-31-91 17:20 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Hemp in The Truth Seeker
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ALSO SEE: 17.
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I subscribe to an unusual magazine based in San Diego called The Truth
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Seeker (Box 2832, San Diego, CA 92112, $20/year). In the latest issue was
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a good article by Howard Anshell called "Could One Plant Save the Earth".
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Guess what it was about Nyuk Nyuk! Yuse guys are really getting around
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Nyuk Nyuk! It said the original draft of the Declaration of Independence
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was written on hemp paper, and still exists today.
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Anyway, I've always believed that all drugs should be decriminalized, even
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crack cocaine, as long as it's taxed and regulated like tobacco and
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alcohol. But with the purported value of the hemp plant itself being held
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back by the anti-drug laws, I gotta say I hope yuse guys keep working hard
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and fight where it counts in the Congress and the Legislatures -- and win!
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Maybe if decriminalization starts with this one little step, everybody can
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see I've been right all along Nyuk Nyuk!
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In the same mag. was a letter to the editor advocating that the government
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establish "legal drug stores" which would sell seized drugs at cut rates
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in direct competition to the street hoodlums...what do you think about
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that, "Bud"?
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"Bud?....Bud? Are you awake? What have you been smoking?..." Nyuk Nyuk!
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(just joshing)
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 15. Fri 11-01-91 6:32 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Thanatos
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Subject: Legalization
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ALSO SEE: 12, 35.
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You're more than welcome to disagree....however, there are NO studies
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which indicate that hemp-smokers are any more or less passive or lazy than
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any other group....and these days, the joint is not the point. Hemp can
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produce approx. 50,000 commercial products that are practically pollution
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free. According to the U.S.D.A., one acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of
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trees for the production of paper. Hemp paper is dioxine-free. Wood paper
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making processes release sulfer into the atmosphere. Up until the mid-
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19th century, ALL our paper was made from hemp...The first two copies of
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the Declaration of Independence were made on hemp paper. We all know that
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Geo. Washington and T. Jefferson grew hemp. Benj. Franklin started the
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first hemp-paper mill in America. That way, we wouldn't have to justify
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use of paper to England. Sailing ships in those days used from 60 to 100
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tons of hemp per year. When England blockaded France, Napolean's first
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move was to invade Russia (which supplied England with 90% of its' hemp)
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in an effort to cut off England's hemp supply, thus crippling its' navy.
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An American could pay his taxes with hemp until 1810. In the latter
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1800's paper made from wood became the vogue, because at this time it was
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more labor-effective than hemp. Clothing and other fibers still were made
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from hemp. Canvas is the Dutch word for cannabis.
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In the mid-1930's, something happened which got Big-Money worried. A
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new machine was invented which would make the pulping of hemp very labor-
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effective. This prompted Popular Mechanics to offer an article about hemp
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calling it the New Billion Dollar crop. Also, Henry Ford was so convinced
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that bio-mass was the ONLY way to go as far as fueling cars, he grew hemp
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on his estate at Iron Mountain for that purpose..As a bio-mass crop, hemp
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is superior to any including kenaf, corn, or sugar-cane all added in to-
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gether! At this time William Raldolf Hearst and Kimberly Clarke owned
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vast timber acreage. DuPont had just patented "nylon", the forerunner of
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all poisonous plastics, and Big Oil didn't like the sound of this bio-
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mass business. Fibers which had traditionally been made from hemp could
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be made with plastics. Hemp can also be made into plastics, and,
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according to Pop.Mech, it can be made into anything from cellophane to
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dynamite. Hearst, the Melons and DuPonts held a series of "secret
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meetings" with '30's drug czar Harry Anslinger and conspired to conduct a
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smear campaign against hemp in an effort to whip the public into an anti-
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hemp hysteria. But they did'nt call it hemp...everyone knew what hemp
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was. Hearst news-papers were the first to call it 'marijuana' and made up
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all manner of horror stories about it. Anslinger, in his testimony before
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Congress, said that 'marijuana' was the most violence-inducing narcotic
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known to man! Hearst papers told of how it was the drug of choice among
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"mexicans, negros, and entertainers." This campaign was nothing less than
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a pack of lies designed by the super-rich to rid themselves of their
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number one competitor...HEMP. The law is called the Marijuana Tax Stamp
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Act, but after that title, you'll never see the word "marijuana" used in
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the bill again. It refers only to hemp...after the law was passed, the
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medical profession wanted to know what happened to cannabis. Cannabis was
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one of the most useful medicines known. They were not aware that
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cannabis and "marijuana" were the same thing. 2.5 million people in this
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country have glaucoma; 10,000 of them are going to lose their vision this
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year...yet, only 37 people have a legal prescription for this useful herb,
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which is proven to HALT the advance of glaucoma. It is also known to be
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useful in treating epilepsy, MS, etc......more on this later.....I've run o
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ut of time.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 16. Fri 11-01-91 10:30 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Thanatos
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Subject: Legalization
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ALSO SEE: 12.
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Part Two:
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Cannabis has many therapeutical applications including glaucoma, MS,MD
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asthma, anorexia, epilepsy, etc. The medical body of literature on the
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topic is vast. The government is quite aware of this, yet still
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classifies "marijuana" as a schedule one narcotic, meaning it has NO KNOWN
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medical value. This is, of course, a lie. The gov't knows it's a lie, and
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more importantly, the Big $$$$ who tell the gov't what to think know it is
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a lie. They simply do not want the competition that hemp would bring into
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the market place. When hemp is re-commercialized, it's not just going to
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save the family farm....American farmers are going to PROSPER like they
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never have in this century!
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Since you have no plans to visit one of our meetings, you are really
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unaware of what the hemp movement is doing as regards the
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commercialization of legal hemp products....these products are how the
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word is being spread....hemp clothing, hemp-seed oil products including
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food, bio-mass products, etc. I recently helped Colorado bio-scientist
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Agua Das set up Colorados first hemp-seed oil press and his products are
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being stocked on shelves all over the state. You're not going to get much
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of this info in the "News." I recently filmed a Hemp Rally in Madison,WI
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where more than 20,000 hempsters attended. Did you hear anything about it
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on the news back here? ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN were all aware of the event,
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but didn't manage to mention anything about it. Why? Forty people can act
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badly in front of an abortion clinic, and it's all over prime time TV.
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20,000 people can petition the state for redress of grievances(i.e. re-
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legalization of a plant that can save the environment and producea 500
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Billion Dollar a year industry) and they go completly ignored. Is it
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because it's not important? No. It's because people are scared. They
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have a reason to be scared....what's being hyped as a War On Drugs is
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really a war on you and me.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 17. Fri 11-01-91 10:55 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: Hemp in The Truth Seeker
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ALSO SEE: 14.
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I'm with you all the way,Big Boy! Actually, I'm for freeing up any
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commerce or interaction between consenting adults. That means everything.
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The HEMP movement is such a useful tool in the over-all freedom movement
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because its' position is unassailable.....paper,fiber,fuel,medicine...it's
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all documented and cannot be disproved. The D E A quit debating hempster
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about two years ago....The national
|
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HEMP movement offers a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove their
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position to be wrong. For me, the picture is like this:
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The shit we each put up with everyday makes the McCarthy Era look like a
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sitcom hoot. Property routinely confiscated without due process, cops
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being able to do ANYTHING with impunity so long as they say they were
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acting in good faith, people being led like sheep to go pee in little
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bottles(you'd think the streets would be filled with folks screaming about
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that one). Folks are living in a climate of fear and paranoia....some
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people have been there so long, they don't even know they're scared.
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We're losing our freedoms and if we don't start fighting for them now,
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|
we probably won't have ANY in the coming century. And there ain't nobody
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around to do it for us.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 19. Mon 11-04-91 8:10 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
|
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To: All
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Subject: you may have allready won....
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The following $10,000 Challenge is issued by H.E.M.P.--5632 Van Nuys Blvd,
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Suite 210, Van Nuys, CA 91401 TEL:(213) 392-1806.....call them and
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|
they'll verify it for you....their challenge goes like this:
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"Prove Us Wrong: If all fossil fuels and their derivatives (coal,oil,
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natural gas, synthetic fibers and petro-chemicals) as well as the
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deforestation of trees for paper and agriculture (e.g. Brazilian and
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Indonesian rainforests), are banned from use in order to save the planet,
|
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|
preserve the ozone layer and reverse the greenhouse effect with its global
|
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|
warming trend: Then there is only one known renewable natural resource
|
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|
able
|
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to provide ALL of the following goods and essentials such as paper and
|
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|
textiles, meet all the world's transportation, home, and industrial energy
|
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|
needs, and clean the atmosphere--all at the same time--our old stand-by
|
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|
that did it all before: Cannabis Hemp...Marijuana!"
|
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|
...
|
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|
Pretty interesting challenge, huh?
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 20. Mon 11-04-91 8:21 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
|
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To: All
|
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|
Subject: Therapeutic Applications
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|
ALSO SEE: 21.
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|
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|
Before getting lost in the many industrial/commercial uses of hemp (50
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|
000 is a LOT), let's look at some of the therapeutic uses of cannabis. My
|
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|
special thanx to UCLA Pulmonary Studies, 1969-1991; UCLA asthma studies,
|
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|
1969-1976; Cohen,Sidney,&Stillman,"Therapeutic Pontential of Marijuana
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|
1976",Medical College of Georgia; University of North Carolina; National
|
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|
Eye Institute;and very special thanx to Dr. Donald Tashkin of UCLA...
|
|||
|
Asthma:
|
|||
|
Smoking the leaves and flowers of the hemp plant would be beneficial for
|
|||
|
80% of asthmatics. More than 15 million Americans are affected, and the
|
|||
|
use of cannabis would add 30 to 60 million person-years in the aggregate
|
|||
|
of extended life to current asthmatics in this country alone. The use of
|
|||
|
cannabis for asthmatics goes back thousands of years in literature;
|
|||
|
American doctors in the last century wrote about it in their medical
|
|||
|
papers saying that "asthma sufferes of the world would *bless* the Indian
|
|||
|
Hemp plant all their lives." In 1991, no American receives or uses
|
|||
|
*legal* cannabis for asthma, although, according to Dr. Tashkin," Taking
|
|||
|
a single hit of (cannabis) has been known to stop a full blown asthma
|
|||
|
attack."
|
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|
Glaucoma:
|
|||
|
14% Of all blindness in the U.S. is from glaucoma. Smoking the leaves and
|
|||
|
flowers of the hemp plant would benefit 90% of all 2.5 million American
|
|||
|
glaucoma victims. Cannabis is 2-3 times as effective as any current
|
|||
|
medicines for reducing ocular pressure....also, hemp use has no toxic side
|
|||
|
effects to the liver/kidneys, and no occasional sudden-death syndromes
|
|||
|
associated with the *legal* pharmaceutical glaucoma drugs. Eye doctors
|
|||
|
often advise their glaucoma patients to by illegal black-market street pot
|
|||
|
to mitigate their toxic *legal* glaucoma medicines. At the current black-
|
|||
|
market prices of $400+ per oz. this is quite a drain on their pocket book,
|
|||
|
not to mention living in fear because of their "criminal" activity. When
|
|||
|
the 1937 Marijuana Tax Stamp Act was passed, one ounce of cannabis was
|
|||
|
available from the local drugstore for one dollar (!)...in 1991, only 37
|
|||
|
Americans have a legal prescription for cannabis. In the Spring of this
|
|||
|
year George Bush declared that no more prescriptions would be issued,
|
|||
|
because they don't want to "send the wrong message about marijuana." In
|
|||
|
1988 the DEA's own conservative administrative law judge, Francis Young,
|
|||
|
after hearing 15 days of medical testimony, and reviewing hundreds of DEA
|
|||
|
documents declared,"Marijuana is one of the safest therapeutically active
|
|||
|
substances known to man." Oddly, the DEA continues to list marijuana as
|
|||
|
a Schedule One narcotic:As having no known medical use. According to
|
|||
|
NORML, High Times, and OMNI: Eli Lilly Co; Abbott Labs; Pfizer; Smith,
|
|||
|
Kline & French; and other pharmaceutical companies would lose billions of
|
|||
|
dollars annually if hemp were legal in the U.S., and even more billions in
|
|||
|
the Third World. (Some 500,000 people are poisoned each year in Third
|
|||
|
World countries by drugs, pesticides, etc that are sold to them by
|
|||
|
American companies, but which are banned for sale in the U.S.) It was
|
|||
|
because of lobbying by the pharmaceutical companies that cannabis research
|
|||
|
has been banned by the Feds since 1977 (Ford Administration.) The Reagan/
|
|||
|
Bush/Quale boys are absolutey refusing to allow resumption of University
|
|||
|
marijuana research, and, in fact, sent out a "feeler" in the early '80's
|
|||
|
to Universities suggesting that they DESTROY all their findings from
|
|||
|
previous hemp research. Thankfully, many declined. Some of the
|
|||
|
University studies suggested that cannabis could replace 50% of Valium,
|
|||
|
Librium, Thrazine(and other 'zine drugs. (According to the U.S. Center for
|
|||
|
Disease Control in Atlanta 20% - 40% of "-zine" drug users have or will
|
|||
|
develop permanent lifetime palsies (shakes).)
|
|||
|
In all of this, it's interesting to note that when George Bush left
|
|||
|
the CIA in 1977, he was appointed director of Eli Lilly by none other than
|
|||
|
Dan Quayle's father.
|
|||
|
Odd, that.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 21. Mon 11-04-91 10:04 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Therapeutic Applications
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 20, 22, 25.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I was wondering if hemp flowers could be used in beer making, as a
|
|||
|
preservative, an aromatic, and flavoring, like hop flowers are? Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 22. Mon 11-04-91 17:15 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Beer
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 21, 24.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I talked to a guy in the HEMP club at school who said he had made
|
|||
|
pot-beer. I can try find out from him how to make it if ya want.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 23. Mon 11-04-91 17:19 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Wee-Willy
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 26.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't know how documented it is, but I have found the herb to be an
|
|||
|
excellent blood presure medicne. Unlike the stuff the dr. gave me, it
|
|||
|
dosen't cause hair to grow in weird places, and it don't make my willy
|
|||
|
fall over limp.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 24. Mon 11-04-91 22:56 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Beer
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 22, 28.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Do it! Post the recipe!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 25. Tue 11-05-91 9:18 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: This Bud's for you....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 21.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
actually, yes they can....the flowers(buds) can be added during the
|
|||
|
initial brew or with the woert(sp)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 26. Tue 11-05-91 9:22 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Wee-Willy
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 23, 29.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, it lowers blood pressure, and opens up the arteries, as well as
|
|||
|
reducing stress, our #1 Killer...and, according to UCLA eating the raw
|
|||
|
seeds cuts down cholesterol dramatically.(more so than any other plant)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 27. Tue 11-05-91 17:43
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: The American dream
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 30, 34.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Farmer Donald Clark of Florada was growing hemp in his corn field. So
|
|||
|
were many of his neibors. Donald got them all together to form a Hemp
|
|||
|
Co-Op.
|
|||
|
Yesterday, Donald recived a life sentence (without posibility of parole).
|
|||
|
What tipped of the DEA?
|
|||
|
Donald and his neibors were able to make thier farm payments.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Boy Howdy, I sure do feel safer with Donald behind bars. How bought you?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 28. Tue 11-05-91 17:48 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Beer
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 24.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I will probaly see him again monday. I'll try to get it then.
|
|||
|
He said that you can use the leagal stuff, but it's pretty expencive, and
|
|||
|
God only knows what they used to rice out the THC. Best to just get it
|
|||
|
from your regular supplier.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It sure would make one hell of an entry at a beef contest.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 29. Tue 11-05-91 17:51 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Wee-Willy
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 26.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Actualy, the hair groth wasn't all bad. My bald spot is gone.
|
|||
|
It's the damm tree trunks growing out of my ears.
|
|||
|
The Doctor said it could be the BP drug that was making me look like big
|
|||
|
foot.
|
|||
|
I quit taking it and quit going to him.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
P.S. Missed you last Saturday.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 30. Wed 11-06-91 7:23 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: American Dream(on Elm St.)
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 27.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, we can all sleep a little easier, now, with Donald and his ilk behind
|
|||
|
bars. Imagine the noive of the guy....actually making his farm payments!
|
|||
|
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: THe crap that's going on
|
|||
|
around us everyday makes the McCarthy Era look mild by comparison.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 31. Wed 11-06-91 7:31
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Quote for the day...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to
|
|||
|
control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things
|
|||
|
that are not crimes...A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very
|
|||
|
principles upon which our government was founded."
|
|||
|
Abraham Lincoln
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 32. Wed 11-06-91 7:35
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: More Medical stuff...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
According to Dr. Thomas Ungerleider, head of California's Marijuana for
|
|||
|
Cancer Research Project from 1979-1984:"Marijuana is the best agent for
|
|||
|
control of nausea in cancer chemotherapy." The same is being found by
|
|||
|
those who are undergoing ADZ therapy for AIDS. One AIDS patient said it
|
|||
|
best,"Marijuana makes the difference between LIVING with AIDS and DYING
|
|||
|
of AIDS." Still, only 37 Americans have a *legal* prescription for a
|
|||
|
plant which grows wild. In effect, the government is saying to these
|
|||
|
people,"F*ck you. It's better that you go blind, better that you die in
|
|||
|
agony, wrapped around a toilet everyday, than for us to change a law which
|
|||
|
was based on a Big Lie, anyway."
|
|||
|
Marijuana is also proven to help 60%-80% of those who suffer from epilepsy,
|
|||
|
MS,MD, and other tremor-related diseases(like Parkinsons).
|
|||
|
In 1975 the D E A and the Nat'l Health Instute directed the Medical
|
|||
|
College of Virginia to conduct studies on the smoking of the herb in hopes
|
|||
|
of finding possible immunicological problems associated with marijuana.
|
|||
|
Instead, researchers were surprised to find that the herb was incredibly
|
|||
|
successful in reducing many malignant and benign tumors! A dissapointed
|
|||
|
D E A then issued orders to CEASE all further cannabis/tumor research
|
|||
|
and reporting.
|
|||
|
Hemp plants also provide extractions called cannabidiolic acids.
|
|||
|
These acids are a natual antibiotic that can be used to treat a variety
|
|||
|
of ailments(indluding gonorrhea, etc). According to Czechoslovakian
|
|||
|
Studies, any disease or infection that can be treated with terramycin,
|
|||
|
cannabis derivatives will do better. Thankfully, the Czechs still
|
|||
|
publish farm crop reports on strategies to grow Cannabidiol-rich hemp.
|
|||
|
The medicinal uses of this natural herb go on and on(arthritis,rheumatism,
|
|||
|
blood pressure,emphysema,migraines, stress, anorexia, etc.) We have
|
|||
|
been robbed of fifty years worth of real medical research, as well as
|
|||
|
research&developement as regards paper,bio-mass fuel, textiles,plastics,
|
|||
|
food, and on and on and on....
|
|||
|
This is OUR plant, and it's time we take it back!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 34. Wed 11-06-91 9:40 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: The American dream
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 27.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
With such insane laws and penalties for violation thereof, on the books, I
|
|||
|
hope none of yuse guys try to become a hero and break them just because
|
|||
|
you don't like them. The action is in getting them repealed, lobbying the
|
|||
|
lawmakers, and getting them off the books.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 35. Wed 11-06-91 11:46 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Thanatos
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Legalization
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 15, 37, 39.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
KB,
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I do remember studies that showed THC affected short term memory in an
|
|||
|
adverse way. This equates, to me, a lower function level.
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As far as the media's bias, I have seen reports of the Hemp movement.
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I believe I watched NBC report on a rally in California, and I think the
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wire services also carry the reports. There was an article in Time not
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too long ago and I believe the Rocky Mountain News covered it too.
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I just don't want to see another mind altering drug legalized in the
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USA. We have enough of a problem with alcohol and Nicotine. I work in a
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Halfway House and I see the result of misuse. We have men and women who
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did nothing more that misuse alcohol, and not they are doing time for
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killing someone. Without the drug use, they would have been in control of
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their vehicle and lives would have been saved. Why give more people more
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opprotunity to use and misuse more drugs??
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*>>THANATOS<<*
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 37. Wed 11-06-91 20:18 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Thanatos
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Subject: Legalization
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ALSO SEE: 35.
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Well, Dead Guy (nyuk nyuk), if you were for prohibition of alcohol and
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tobacco in the first place, why didn't you say so? Despite all your
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"horror stories", the horror of Prohibition and the terrible black market
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that forked society over, was much much worse. So, the arguments for
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prohibition of drugs seem, to me, to be intellectually discreditable, even
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for a slob like me Nyuk Nyuk!
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Still, taking drugs is for losers, legal or not, so have a malted milk and
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some popcorn, and when you get over 300 lbs. you can chance a Colt 45 or
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two and still not raise your b.a.l. too much percentagewise Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 38. Wed 11-06-91 22:29 (RECV'D)
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From: Digital Dave
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Fat Chance!
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ALSO SEE: 42.
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Dear Mr. Bud:
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May I call you Kind? I should like to respectfully disagree with
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everything you've said thus far. And just because you can back up your
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points with documented fact doesn't mean that I'm going to alter my
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opinions one iota. Likewise, just because the biased government-sponsored
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studies have been exposed as so much horse hocky doesn't mean I won't
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continue to believe them. My mind is quite firmly made up, and regardless
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of how many lives might be saved, or what benefit hemp would be to the
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environment, I, like Comatose Thanatos, will not be found at any of your
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rallies.
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But seriously, folks, I'm glad to see this topic being explored
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intelligently. And, while I would welcome hemp's legalization, it would
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seem to be an extreme long shot. Do you really think they're going to
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|
repeal the marijuana laws in our lifetime?
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 39. Thu 11-07-91 6:48 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Thanatos
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Subject: ...umm, let me....uh....I.....
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ALSO SEE: 35, 40, 231.
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..uhhh...errr...what was I going to?....OH! Yeah, right....like,uh..
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Short Term Memory ....uh....Loss, Yeah...Right...OK!...
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I believe you are referring to conclusions drawn from the Heath/Tulane
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University studies in 1974. The short-term memory loss allegations stem
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from those studies, and a lot of other erroneous bullsh*t as well...
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The Official Version goes like this: An impartial Dr. Heath concluded that
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Rhesus monkeys, smoking the equivalent of "only" 30 joints a day began to
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atrophy and die after 90 days. He then opened the brains and counted the
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brain cells; next, he took control monkeys who hadn't smoked, killed them,
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and counted their brain cells. The pot smoking monkeys had enormous
|
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|
amounts of dead brain cells as compared to the "straight" monkeys. This
|
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|
prompted Reagan to say"The *most reliable scientific* sources say
|
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|
permanent brain damage is one of the inevitable results of the use of
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marijuana!".....Now, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story:
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|
It took Playboy Press/NORML six years of suing under the Freedom of
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|
Information Act to finally get an accurate accounting of the research
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|
proceedures used in the experiment: The monkeys were strapped into chairs
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and then strapped into gas-masks and given the equivalent of 63 Columbian
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|
strength joints in five minutes thru the gas-masks, with no smoke
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|
escaping. In other words, they were suffocating. Carbon Monoxide (given
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|
off by any burning object) is a deadly gas that kills brain cells. The
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|
Heath/Tulane report is a study in animal asphyxiation, carbon monoxide
|
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|
poisoning, and human cruelty. You could achieve the same results if you
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|
locked yourself in your garage and ran your car for 15 minutes every
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|
day. I can only speak from personal experience...When I returned from my
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|
four-year, government sponsored, all-expense paid vacation in Southeast
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|
Asia in the early '70's, I was quite familiar with the herb. I enjoyed it
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|
just about every day. I returned to college and finished with a straight-A
|
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|
average, and didn't find it much of a challenge at all. This, while
|
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|
working full time and supporting a family. I now own my own business,
|
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|
have three kid in college, and am still married to the same woman I
|
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|
started out with. I don't think this indicates brain damage....(well,
|
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|
except the part about being married.) When my personal experience flows
|
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|
contrary to Consensus Reality, I'll stick with my personal experience,
|
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|
thankyou. Any caring adult is going to feel badly about the tragedy you
|
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|
have to deal with every day, but the fact is, those poor souls each made
|
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|
an error in judgement. And, to be blunt, if they had stayed at home and
|
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|
smoked a joint, instead of going out and driving like drunk maniacs, lives
|
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|
would have been saved and they wouldn't be in a half-way house. Fact is,
|
|||
|
the hysteria that passes for a drug policy has f*cked up more people than
|
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|
all the half-way house denizens put together. the United States has a
|
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|
larger percentage of its' citizens in prison than ANY other country in the
|
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|
world. #2 is South Africa. Do you think that means the U.S. has a higher
|
|||
|
percentage of Bad Guys than any other country? I don't think so, yet Bush
|
|||
|
wants to build more and more prisons.
|
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|
As far as the media is concerned....the press can't completely ignore
|
|||
|
what is becoming the biggest movement of the decade. I didn't say that.
|
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|
I just find it odd that they ignored the Madison rally where 20,000 people
|
|||
|
protested the insane drug laws. We have to remember, Than, that many of
|
|||
|
the largest publishers have direct holdings in timberland for paper, and
|
|||
|
the pharmaceutical drug, petrochemical companies, etc. are among the
|
|||
|
media's major advertisers. It's the Golden Rule: whoever has the Gold
|
|||
|
makes the Rules.
|
|||
|
Hemp for paper/bio-mass fuel has been rather successful in Europe for
|
|||
|
several years, now. (Funny that Kimberly Clarke is so involved there,
|
|||
|
since they were behind hemp prohibition in this country in the '30's.)
|
|||
|
It may comfort you to know, Thanny, that the particular strains of hemp
|
|||
|
being grown there make for lousy smoking. Business Alliance for Commerce
|
|||
|
in Hemp recently sent a delegation over there to study the farming methods,
|
|||
|
pulping proceedures, etc. A couple of their less intrepid delegates
|
|||
|
bravely volunteered to sample some of the flowers/leaves. The only result
|
|||
|
they reported was "a mild, but annoying head-ache."
|
|||
|
It's not a matter of IF hemp will be re-legalized, but when, and which
|
|||
|
state will be the first. A 500 Billion dollar a year industry cannot be
|
|||
|
ignored, especially with the state of our economy. The current illicit
|
|||
|
revenues from hemp (black-market) are about 45-60 Billion annually. This
|
|||
|
is ridiculous because 1. Our farmers are not getting any of this cash, and
|
|||
|
2. The leaves and flowers are
|
|||
|
...The...Least...Valuable...Part...Of...this...Plant!
|
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|
[Reality Captioned For The Doublespeak Impaired]
|
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|
|
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|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 40. Thu 11-07-91 8:17 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: ...umm, let me....uh....I.....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 39, 41.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A dumb question perhaps, but if the hemp industry is worth 500 billion
|
|||
|
dollars a year potentially, where's all the big money fatcats supporting
|
|||
|
it politically so they can buy up the new industry and get richer? That
|
|||
|
the tree industry has its fatcats too doesn't explain it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 41. Sun 11-10-91 8:09 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: fatcat backers
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 40, 43.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In addition to the tree-industry folks, there's also the petrochemical
|
|||
|
giants, pharmaceutical companies and textile folks all of whom like things
|
|||
|
just the way they are...
|
|||
|
Yesterday I talked with John Birenbach of the Instute for Hemp in St.Paul.
|
|||
|
He told me that Kimberly Clark is involved in the hemp industry in France,
|
|||
|
but it took him a month of phone calls to Kimberly Clark before he found
|
|||
|
a company spokesperson who was even aware of it....(they're doing it thru
|
|||
|
a subsidiary with a different name.) We're also dealing with 50 years of
|
|||
|
public brainwashing....we've been told over and over that hemp(marijuana)
|
|||
|
is very,very evil....It's going to take a complete re-education of the
|
|||
|
public before any major company is going to come out as publically in
|
|||
|
favor of re-legalization. Although this information has been around in
|
|||
|
bits and pieces for quite some time, it's just recently that it's been put
|
|||
|
together in a complete package....the concept is new. The Wall St.
|
|||
|
Journal ran a front page story on hemp in May..."What Is as Versatile as
|
|||
|
the Soybean But Illegal Anyway?" In June Pulp & Paper magazine's tech-
|
|||
|
nical editor wrote an article:"It's Time to Reconsider Hemp." Both these
|
|||
|
articles are a major step forward for hemp...it's a battle for peoples'
|
|||
|
minds and it's going to take a while....but it seems like everywhere you
|
|||
|
turn, hemp information is popping up! Right now it's a grass-roots(nyuk?)
|
|||
|
effort. Last year there were about 3-4 suppliers of legal hemp products
|
|||
|
in the U S and now there's over 20. The Institute for Hemp has obtained
|
|||
|
the necessary permits from the Minnesota Dept. of Agriculture to grow
|
|||
|
100 acres of hemp in 1992. Rocky Mtn Hemp is opening a Hempwear, etc
|
|||
|
store in a mall at 1090 S. Wadsworth. Willie Nelson has started his own
|
|||
|
line of Hemp Clothing and has plans to preach hemp at his next Farm-Aid
|
|||
|
concert this month. I think we're at the begining of something very big,
|
|||
|
and quite inevitable.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 42. Sun 11-10-91 8:34 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Digital Dave
|
|||
|
Subject: Fat Chance!
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 38, 44.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't think "THEY" are ready to legalize it, yet. But then, THEY don't
|
|||
|
have to. WE can legalize it OURSELVES.
|
|||
|
How? Colorado, like about 25 other states, has a Citizens Initiative
|
|||
|
Process. This means that Colorado citizens have equal power with thier
|
|||
|
legislators to enact laws...and,because our population is so small, we
|
|||
|
only need 50,000 valid signatures of registered voters by August '92 to
|
|||
|
get it on the November ballot. A Newscenter-4 poll about a month ago
|
|||
|
showed that 55% of Coloradoans are in favor of re-legalization of hemp
|
|||
|
right now....and that's without knowing about paper-fiber-fuel-food-
|
|||
|
non-toxic paints & varnish-medicine. etc! It's up to us to get the word
|
|||
|
out...it's not going to be easy, but, at least for now, we've got a better
|
|||
|
shot than any other state. California is going to run a hemp-initiative in
|
|||
|
'92 also, but they've got to get almost 400,000 signatures (meaning more
|
|||
|
that 700,000 just to get a "good" 400,000.....quite a chore....we've got
|
|||
|
to get 75,000 sigs to get a 'good' 50,000. I think we can get that done,
|
|||
|
and once we do, the entire nation is going to be watching us in November
|
|||
|
to see what we do.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 43. Sun 11-10-91 9:18 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: fatcat backers
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 41, 45, 51.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't mean to play the devil's advocate, Bud, but I still can't
|
|||
|
understand how you can claim there's a $500 BILLION industry being held
|
|||
|
back by anybody. $5 Billion maybe, not $500 Billion. There's plenty of
|
|||
|
money out there just looking for something to invest in, and greed alone
|
|||
|
would make hemp legalization impossible to stop if there were that big an
|
|||
|
economic boom at the end waiting. So, either you overestimate the
|
|||
|
potential size of the industry, or you haven't explained what's holding it
|
|||
|
back well enough. Heck, IBM Corp. only brings in $50 Billion a year Nyuk
|
|||
|
Nyuk!
|
|||
|
As for the paper and petrochemical dudes, how big are their industries
|
|||
|
now? $500 Billion is enough to make them want to SWITCH Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 44. Sun 11-10-91 12:17 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp init.
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 42, 47.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I want to throw out some questions on the hemp Initiative.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. Who gets to set up the wordingon the actual ballot. We all no how the
|
|||
|
summery on the ballot can be misleading. So is there any chance of it
|
|||
|
being worded "should it be legal for dope heads to smoke pot and kill our
|
|||
|
dogs?" or something to that effect?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. What abought the people in prison for hemp related political crimes?
|
|||
|
Will they be released?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. Will money and property taken by the government under RICO beacuse the
|
|||
|
rightful owner had a three year old copy of "High Times" have to be
|
|||
|
returned.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4. What abought the federal laws? Will the feds still be able to throw
|
|||
|
people in jail?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 45. Sun 11-10-91 12:27 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: fatcat backers
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 43, 46.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| understand how you can claim there's a $500 BILLION industry being held
|
|||
|
| back by anybody. $5 Billion maybe, not $500 Billion. There's plenty of
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Easy. Hemp is alot like solar power.
|
|||
|
It is very difficult to controld from a central location. This makes it
|
|||
|
hard for the giant multi-nationals to sell it.
|
|||
|
Why would a glocoma (prob spelled wrong) sufferer want to pay $15-$20 a
|
|||
|
day for something that they could grow in their back yard?
|
|||
|
How is giant tree farmer going to sell his product when hemp is more
|
|||
|
easily grown on a small scale?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The bottom line is that 500 billion a year won't be made by the giant
|
|||
|
corporations, but by the little farmer who gets back on his feet, the sick
|
|||
|
people who save money on their medicine, in general the little guy.
|
|||
|
So it is easy to see why the fat-cats are fighting it tooth and nail.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 46. Sun 11-10-91 19:03 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: fatcat backers
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 45, 50.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yes, I see it now that you've accounted for every one of the FIVE HUNDRED
|
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|
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN PROFITS that Kind Bud talked about in msg #2
|
|||
|
Nyuk Nyuk! Let's see, since there's a quarter billion Americans, that's
|
|||
|
only TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS a year in profits that the Hemp Industry could
|
|||
|
make that it now isn't, from EVERY AMERICAN IN THE U.S. EACH YEAR.
|
|||
|
Such a piddling profit potential would be no problem for the paper &
|
|||
|
petrochemical industries to squelch, without themselves wanting to capture
|
|||
|
that industry for themselves on the side Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
It's SOOOO clear Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 47. Mon 11-11-91 7:19 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp init.
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 44.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'll check on the wording of the ballot initiative today. The long
|
|||
|
version will go something like this...
|
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|
An Act To Amend The Health and Safety Code of Colorado
|
|||
|
I. Add Section #________ to the Health and Safety Code of Colorado any
|
|||
|
laws or policies to the contrary not withstanding:
|
|||
|
(1) Persons, 18 years or older, shall not be prosecuted, be denied any
|
|||
|
right or privilege, nor be subject to criminal or civil penalties for
|
|||
|
the cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of:
|
|||
|
(a) Industrial hemp products. Hemp farmers and manufacturers of
|
|||
|
industrial hemp products shall not be subject to any special zoning
|
|||
|
or licensing fees that are discriminatory or prohibitive.
|
|||
|
(b) Hemp medicinal preparations.
|
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|
(c) Hemp products for nutritional use.
|
|||
|
(d) Hemp products for personal use. No permit or license may be
|
|||
|
required for non-commercial cultivation, transportation,
|
|||
|
distribution, or consumption of any hemp product.
|
|||
|
There are then 10 paragraphs and sub paragraphs dealing with definitions
|
|||
|
and taxation methods. One deals with retroactive amnesties and clearing
|
|||
|
of criminal records.....then it goes on:
|
|||
|
IV. No Colorado law enforcement personnel or funds shall be used to
|
|||
|
assist enforcement of federal cannabis/marijuana laws governing
|
|||
|
cannabis/marijuana related acts which are no longer illegal in the
|
|||
|
state of Colorado.
|
|||
|
V. The legislature, the Govenor, and the Attorney General are directed
|
|||
|
to challenge federal cannabis/marijuana prohibitions which conflict
|
|||
|
with this act.
|
|||
|
VIII.Within 120 days following the passage of this act the legislature
|
|||
|
shall fund, from law enforcement savings hereby generated, an
|
|||
|
advisory panel to study the feasibility and methods of making
|
|||
|
restitution to all persons who were imprisoned, fined or had private
|
|||
|
properties forfeited as a result of criminal or civil actions for
|
|||
|
cannabis/marijuana related acts which are hereby no longer illegal.
|
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|
...
|
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It then goes on to explain how the monies for restitution are to be
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obtained from new tax revenues on hemp, etc.
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This will only be a state law, and will not stop the feds...federal
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law will have to be changed, also. But it's a giant step forward.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 48. Mon 11-11-91 9:56
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From: Big Boy
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To: All
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Subject: Great Idea Nyuk Nyuk!
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HAPT (Hazardous Pursuit Terminator)
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A police officer is beginning to chase a suspect though a populated
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neighborhood. The officer noticed the suspect speeding, ran a check on the
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license number and found that the driver was wanted as a fugitive in a
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bank robbery. After the officer turns on the flashers, the suspect speeds
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up to 70 mph in a 25 mph zone! There are people around and someone could
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get killed. The officer makes a decision that it's time to turn on HAPT.
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She opens a console on the dash board and pushes a button, then moves the
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joystick inside the console so that a red dot touches the back of the
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vehicle she is chasing. She pushes the button again and a voice from the
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box says; "Fire control system locked on target". Suddenly, all four tires
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of the suspect's car are shot from beneath it, almost simultaneously! She
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screeches to a stop and jumps from the car, shotgun in hand. The suspect
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is stunned and easily captured. Science Fiction, or Science Fact? This
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system can be developed for police departments all over the country, and
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save many innocent lives each year, lost because of hazardous pursuits.
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Funding is needed to develop the HAPT device. Write your representatives now!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 49. Mon 11-11-91 9:57
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From: Big Boy
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To: All
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Subject: Hemp Files on De Board
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I now have 2 hemp-related downloadable files on the board:
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HEMP.LZH - a motley collection of files I got from World Peace BBS
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They are not in plain ASCII format, they seem to be from a
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word processor, you tell me which.
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NORML.ZIP - "How A Single Plant Could Save the Earth" -- reprint of am
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article on Hemp and NORML, giving addresses.
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I sure wish you would start preparing some extensive text article or
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portfolio on the subject with LOCAL contact info./addresses, Bud, so I can
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make it into a Zip file and put it on the board. That way, you multiply
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your time by letting the file spread on its own momentum across BOARDWORLD,
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so to speak.
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Of course, if there's any hemp critics out there, I invite you to do
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likewise, you're all welcome. I still can't figure out where they got the
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$500 Billion dollar figure from, it makes them sound like CRACKPOTS Nyuk
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Nyuk! (get it, crackPOTS!). Why not $338 Billion for example?
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 50. Mon 11-11-91 16:25 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: fatcat backers
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ALSO SEE: 46.
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We're not talking abought 500 billion new dollars comming in. Alot of it
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will come from a shift in sources. That is to say, themp industry will
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generate 500 billion, but the timber, oil, pharmi.. companys will lose at
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least 250 billion.
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Me personaly, I don't like to use that figure because, to me anyway, it
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seems a bit confusing.
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Mayve Kind Bud could explain it better.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 51. Mon 11-11-91 17:56 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: fatcat backers
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ALSO SEE: 43.
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Greed (in the *best* sense of the word) IS making hemp re-legalization
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impossible to stop. It's re-legalization is inevitable because of the
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profit-potential. There's no shortage of investors waiting in the wings.
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The problem is that it's ILLEGAL now. When it's re-legalized, then we'll
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also see the more famous big-money people jumping on the band wagon and
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probably pretending it was their idea. Kimberly-Clark is active in hemp
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production in Europe. Levi's Corp is looking at hemp for their jeans,
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which used to be made from hemp. The Big Oil and Pharmaceutical Guys
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are going to protect their investments and infrastructure as long as they
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can. They already are aware of the threat hemp poses to them and will
|
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continue to fight against it. Hemp will do nothing for Oil and
|
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Pharmaceuticals except eat into their market share.
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For other companies which aren't into Oil and Pharmaceuticals, being
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in the forefront of this movement is not attractive because it is anathama
|
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in the eye of the public. The public has to be made aware of the truth
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about hemps' usefulness before it is acceptable. The hemp movement is
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about education...it is old information put into a new integrated
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awareness. A hemp economy will resemble Toffler's third wave of a
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decentralized global community. The $500 billion figure is an estimate
|
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from the Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp's studies into the use
|
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of hemp for 50,000 existing commercial products. I don't find the figure
|
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|
to be offensive, but if it bothers you, then substitute a figure you're
|
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more comfortable with. It won't change the importance of the hemp info
|
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|
one bit.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 53. Tue 11-12-91 14:57 (NO KILL)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Local Hemp Organizations
|
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Here's a list of local contacts in the Hemp Movement you can contact for
|
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|
more information, or to get involved, or to rag on if you disagree....
|
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|
.
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Hemp Initiative Project
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Jon Baraga
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1015 S. Gaylord # 181
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Denver, Co 80209
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(303) 470-1100 ext 511
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They need petitioners for the 1992 Hemp Initiative.
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.
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No More Drug War Foundation
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P.O. Box 18780
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Denver, Co 80218
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.
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Rocky Mountain Hemp Network
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Connie Barr-Rowe
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P.O. Box 150804
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Lakewood, CO 80215
|
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(303) 239-6410 or 470-1100 ext 611 (leave msg)
|
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General Hemp Info, Coalition of people with illnesses requiring hemp
|
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|
for medicine. Lots of legal hemp products such as clothing, nutritional
|
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|
hemp products, etc.
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|
.
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|
NORML-Colorado
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137 W. County Line Road #500
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Littleton, Co 80215
|
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(303) 470-1100
|
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|
Hemp information, lawyer referal, lots of other info.
|
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|
.
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|
Sustainable Futures
|
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|
Auga Das, director
|
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|
(303) 470-1100 ext 711
|
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|
Your one stop shop for hemp-seed oil, hemp-seed cake, instructional
|
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|
hemp videos.
|
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|
.
|
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|
Auraria Hemp Club
|
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|
Student Union Building Room 230-C, Meets every monday 3:30-5:00 PM
|
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|
Headed up by a knowledgable herbalist, lots of good info and videos.
|
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|
.
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|
Hemp Educational Media Productions
|
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|
Rt. 7, Box 373
|
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|
Golden, Co 80403
|
|||
|
Hemp videos, information, general rabble-rousing.
|
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|
|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 55. Tue 11-12-91 15:22 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Ballot Wording....
|
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|
|
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|
The final wording will be determined by the Ballot Access Committee
|
|||
|
appointed by the Secretary of State. I imagine it will be quite a battle
|
|||
|
to get them to word it fairly...."Should reefer-crazed ruffians be allowed
|
|||
|
to touch your children?"...etc.
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 56. Tue 11-12-91 15:35
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Quote for the day...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"The Greatest service which can be rendered to any country is to add a
|
|||
|
useful plant to its culture."
|
|||
|
Thomas Jefferson
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 58. Wed 11-13-91 7:09 (NO KILL)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: What's a FIJA?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIJA stands for the Fully Informed Jury Alliance. This is a national
|
|||
|
organization started by a couple of freedom minded patriots in Montana, of
|
|||
|
all places. It's purpose is, ostensibly, to get laws passed in each state
|
|||
|
requiring judges to inform juries of their right to practice what is known
|
|||
|
as "Jury Nullification." I say 'ostensibly' because I think their real
|
|||
|
purpose is to educate the public of the fact that we all have the right to
|
|||
|
nullify law when we sit on a jury. Jury nullification means that when you
|
|||
|
sit on a jury, you're not only judging the guilt or innocence of the
|
|||
|
accused, you're also judging the law which the accused is charged with
|
|||
|
breaking. If you think the law is a bad one, or if you think that it is a
|
|||
|
good law being misapplied, then you have the right (and obligation) to
|
|||
|
vote for an acquital regardless of the facts of the case (even if the
|
|||
|
accused was caught "red-handed"). The right of jury-nullification goes
|
|||
|
back to the days of the Magna-Carta and has been traditionally practiced
|
|||
|
in this country. It is the ultimate of our checks and balances to keep an
|
|||
|
oppressive gov't from passing laws of which we disapprove. In American
|
|||
|
case law (Georgia v. Brailsford 1794) the concept was codified by Chief
|
|||
|
Justice John Jay. So how come we haven't heard about it lately? Because in
|
|||
|
1964 (in a case involving draft-card burning as protest to the Viet Nam
|
|||
|
war) the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that jurors were no longer to be
|
|||
|
informed of this right by any officer of the court(including both
|
|||
|
prosecuting and defense attorneys.) We still have the right of
|
|||
|
nullification....it's just that the court doesn't have to tell us about it
|
|||
|
during the course of a trial, anymore.
|
|||
|
So what? So this. If called to be a juror, you won't have to send anyone
|
|||
|
to jail for violating hemp laws! (or any other law with which you
|
|||
|
disagree.) All it takes is one juror to hang a jury. In fact, during the
|
|||
|
last four yeats of alcohol prohibition, half of all such trials ended in
|
|||
|
acquitals or hung juries due to juries excercising their right of jury
|
|||
|
nullification. This helped bring alcohol prohibition to a grinding halt.
|
|||
|
We must send the same signal about hemp-prohibition. Refuse to send your
|
|||
|
bro's and sis's to jail! Right now, in Kentucky (traditionally a hemp-
|
|||
|
growing state) somewhere between one-third to one-half of hemp cultivation
|
|||
|
cases being brought to trial do not end in convictions because of jury
|
|||
|
nullification!
|
|||
|
We may be in a police-state now, with the Bill of Rights being
|
|||
|
destroyed through Drug-War hysteria, but we still have enough of the tools
|
|||
|
of freedom left to fight back and win this thing. And we have to win. The
|
|||
|
quality of life for us and our kids depends on our victory.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 59. Wed 11-13-91 7:45
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: More on FIJA
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I want to make it clear that when a jury nullifies a law, that law is not
|
|||
|
wiped off the books....it is nullified only in the particular case on
|
|||
|
trial. Also, often these days, a judge will charge a jury to judge only
|
|||
|
the facts of a case. I think some judges do this from ignorance of the
|
|||
|
jury-nullification concept. I think most judges, however, are just plain
|
|||
|
lying.
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 61. Wed 11-13-91 15:05
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Quote for the Day...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 62.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"The casual user, if there is such a thing as a casual user, ought to be
|
|||
|
taken out and shot, because he or she has no reason to use drugs."
|
|||
|
Daryl F. Gates L.A. Chief of Police(Ret.)
|
|||
|
& Father of the D.A.R.E Pogrom
|
|||
|
...
|
|||
|
unanswerable logic.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 62. Wed 11-13-91 17:47 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Quote for the Day...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 61.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| "The casual user, if there is such a thing as a casual user, ought to be
|
|||
|
| taken out and shot, because he or she has no reason to use drugs."
|
|||
|
| Daryl F. Gates L.A. Chief of Police(Ret.)
|
|||
|
| & Father of the D.A.R.E Pogrom
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It has perfect logic.
|
|||
|
If you are doing bad or un-healthy things to your body, we will help you
|
|||
|
stop by killing you. That way you will never do anything bad to your body
|
|||
|
again.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 63. Thu 11-14-91 6:48 (NO KILL)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: clear as mud
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 65.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Oh!.....I get it.
|
|||
|
I've been puzzling about why some folks have a hard time with the
|
|||
|
potential high-buck projections (such as the $500 billion I mentioned a
|
|||
|
few msgs back) concerning hemp. Big Boy isn't the only one with a "?" over
|
|||
|
his head. I assume no one will object if I try to clear this up....
|
|||
|
If the Hemp-fairy waved its wand tonight and hemp was completely legal
|
|||
|
tomorrow for all its applications, we would not have an instant "new" $500
|
|||
|
billion to play with. This high figure is based on the Replacement of
|
|||
|
an entire fossil-fuel industry, the *replacement* of and industry based on
|
|||
|
wood-for-paper, the replacement of most wood for construction, the
|
|||
|
replacement of about 50% of the pharmaceuticals presently on the market,
|
|||
|
the replacement of cotton, plastic, toxic paints and varnishes, and on and
|
|||
|
on. It would mean the replacement of the synthetic with the natural, and
|
|||
|
the replacement of our present way of thinking. It would call for, what
|
|||
|
amounts to, a Hemp-based economy. Unrealistic? It all depends on your
|
|||
|
point of view. My point of view is: It's unrealistic to continue
|
|||
|
depending on fossil-fuels when industry studies project that 80% of our
|
|||
|
oil reserves will be used up by the turn of the century; it's unrealistic
|
|||
|
to continue the planned de-forestation of the planet and all that ensues.
|
|||
|
I think it's unrealistic to continue to crank out non-biodegradable
|
|||
|
plastics and other poisons. Unrealistic to expect farmers to suffer and
|
|||
|
atrophy on $150-$200 per acre crops, when hemp could bring them $400-
|
|||
|
$600 per acre today. Unrealistic to have an economy based on anything
|
|||
|
other than sustainable-renewable-agricultural products. Look at the box
|
|||
|
that holds your CRT, your CPU, and look at your keyboard....everything you
|
|||
|
see there(except the CRT) could be made with Hemp grown by an American
|
|||
|
farmer! We have to change the way we think in order to survive. And I'm
|
|||
|
no gloomy doomsayer....We will survive.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 64. Thu 11-14-91 7:26
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Quote for the day...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"It's the only newspaper with the courage
|
|||
|
to tell the truth:Everything's OK."
|
|||
|
Homer Simpson talking about USA TODAY.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 65. Thu 11-14-91 7:47 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: clear as mud
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 63, 66, 68.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So, Kind Bud, you're saying that the hemp industry will supersede current
|
|||
|
industries, not add an extra $500B/year to the GNP. Plausible, but I'm still
|
|||
|
skeptical, because there's plenty of other nations on the globe that don't
|
|||
|
have any trees or oil, and if all they had to do was grow hemp to make
|
|||
|
themselves economically self-sufficient, what's holding them back? They
|
|||
|
sure grow a lot of hemp for personal "pleasure" Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
Is all of the $500B/year a replacement figure, or is there some new GNP to
|
|||
|
be generated from unique products, and if so, what is that figure?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 66. Thu 11-14-91 17:25 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: clear as mud
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 65.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| themselves economically self-sufficient, what's holding them back? They
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
We (as in the good ol' USA) are holding them back.
|
|||
|
We don't let anybody grow it, if they do, we cut off their aid, and send
|
|||
|
in the CIA to overthrow their government.
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 67. Fri 11-15-91 3:11 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Digital Dave
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Broken Record
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Why are you so hung up on this $500 billion dollar nyuk nyuk? With all
|
|||
|
the evil nyuk nyuks that threaten to destroy our planet and its people,
|
|||
|
and all the beneficial nyuks nyuks of hemp, $500 billion nyuk nyuks more
|
|||
|
or less are just that. Who gives a flying nyuk? Are we missing the big
|
|||
|
picture here?
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 68. Fri 11-15-91 7:39 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: some does, some doesn't
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ALSO SEE: 65, 69.
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The Foad speaks well. Many countries are currently bound by U.N. Single
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Convention on Narcotic Drugs of March 30,1961-International Treaty on
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'Marijuana' Production & Law. This was pushed through the U.N. by the
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U.S. and maintains the fiction that 'Marijuana' is a Schedule One Narcotic,
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meaning it has NO KNOWN medicinal value. Since that time the U.S. has
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"paid" many third world countries to abide by this treaty and criminalize
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the commercial production of hemp. Singapore used to produce extremely
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fine hemp-cloth, but at the behest of our govt made its' cultivation a
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capital offense in 1971. But it would be a mistake to think that other
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countries are not jumping on the hemp bandwagon. Italy, France, Spain,
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Denmark, Holland, and China are currently producing hemp for paper, bio-
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mass and textiles. Kimberly Clark is involved in France's hemp-pulp
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industry. The industry is new(at least in Europe) but it must be making
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sense to somebody. Last April, Russia sent an agricultural delegation
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to Minnesota to meet with John Birenbach of the institute for hemp. Their
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purpose was to re-learn hemp cultivation and processing proceedures. I
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say "re-learn" because Russia was a leading producer of hemp back in the
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19th century. Russia is getting back into hemp production and they are
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dead-nuts serious.
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As to the $500B/yr, no it is not all a replacement figure. There would
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be immediate increase in GNP with the introduction of hemp cultivation/
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production and serveral thousand new jobs. As to the exact amount, I
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do not have that info....but I know who might:
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Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp (B.A.C.H.)
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(213) 288-4152 LA, Ask for Chris
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(209) 277-1319 Fresno, Ca ask for Chuck
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(619) 274-0034 San Diego, ask for John
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(415) 826-0787 San Fran. ask for Peter
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(916) 444-0718 Sacramento ask for Matthew
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(404) 928-0827 Atlant, GA ask for Kathy
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(404) 739-1870 Atlanta,GA ...James
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(808) 969-9712 Hilo, HI ...Roger
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(515) 243-7351 Des Moines...Carl
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(502) 895-7757 Louisville, KY...Randy
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(504) 899-8417 New Orleans...Gary
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This list just scratches the surface of the BACH representatives in the
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U.S. and Canada.....one of these folks ought to be able to answer your
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questions regarding hemponomics. If not, let me know and I'll continue
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down the list 'till we find someone who can. My phone bill has
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quadrupled since getting involved in this thing and don't plan on making
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any more calls for the rest of the month...if your in a hurry, give one
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of these folks a call....Also try John Birenbach of the Inst. for Hemp
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in St. Paul (612) 222-2628....a very friendly fellow and knowledgeable.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 69. Fri 11-15-91 8:28 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: some does, some doesn't
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ALSO SEE: 68, 72.
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Well, you sidestepped the issue, so if you want to substantiate your OWN
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allegations better, that's your DUTY, according to my high school debating
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team coach Nyuk Nyuk! I'm not trying to destroy your credibility, Bud, I
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just don't like unsubstantiated allegations that, if I repeated them,
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might make me look like a kook. I'll bet you've never run a company that
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has revenues of $500 thousand, so $500 billion is such a big number to
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casually toss out, a human mind can almost not even conceive what it truly
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means. So pardon me, but it needs a lot of substantiation, a whole lot of
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it.
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Of course, I don't even care personally Nyuk Nyuk! But I'm sure you want
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converts, and they might, so how 'bout plugging up the holes before the
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really big critics move in and reduce you to the size of a peanut Nyuk
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Nyuk! (Such as my mother-in-law Nyuk Nyuk!)
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BTW, did David Duke tell you that if all the "inferior races" were
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exterminated and made into fertilizer, it would bring in SIX HUNDRED
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billion dollars? Nyuk Nyuk! And at the rate they breed, the "resource"
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would be annually "renewable" Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 70. Fri 11-15-91 16:58
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: GRAND OPENING! GRAND OPENING!
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November 30---A new store selling hemp products exclusively.
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HEMPwear, etc.
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1090 S. Wadsworth, Unit D
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Grand Opening Giveaways! Bring the kids!
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...
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Also, Alfalfa's market is now carrying Das's Hemp Seed Oil.
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...
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I have no idea how this will impact the GNP.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 71. Fri 11-15-91 17:07
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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|
Subject: Fastest growing club on campus
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The Auraria Hemp Club is growing by leaps and bounds....80 members and
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|
moving forward....they have regular meetings on mondays at the Student
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|
Union building from 3:30 - 5:30 with a public information table in
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|
operation on mondays from 10:00 am - 3:15: lots of good info and videos
|
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|
to view....some of them are mine, so go buy one.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 72. Fri 11-15-91 17:15 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
|
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|
To: Big Boy
|
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|
Subject: some does, some doesn't
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|
ALSO SEE: 69.
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I've no less credibility than anyone else quoting economic predictions.
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|
When the Hemp Initiative petition hits the Sec. of States office, it
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|
will be accompanied by an economic-impact statement. When I get it,
|
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|
you'll get it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 73. Sat 11-16-91 7:38
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
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|
To: All
|
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|
Subject: those who live in grass houses
|
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|
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|
An outfit called Mansion Industries is introducing a new type of house
|
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|
called Pyramod. It gets its name form the pyramidal shape of its' roof.
|
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|
The structural system is made entirely of compressed agricultural fiber
|
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|
paneling, making for a low cost, high quality home. They are currently
|
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|
using rice, wheat-straw, kenaf, or sugar-cane. The fibers are heated to
|
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|
400 degrees F compressed under extremely high pressure and bonded with an
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|
adhesive. They are looking for entrepeneurs who would like to start a
|
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|
factory locally. Their address is:
|
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|
Mansion Industries
|
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|
14425 E. Clark Ave/P O Box 2220
|
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|
Industry, CA 91746
|
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|
.
|
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|
It appears that we are now able to "grow" our own housing.
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 74. Sat 11-16-91 19:14
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: A Giant Step Forward...
|
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|
|
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|
In the elections held earlier this month, the city of San Francisco voted
|
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|
on Proposition P, legalizing the medical use of Cannabis Hemp.
|
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|
Proposition P passed by an amazing 79.1%. This bill is an "advisory" in
|
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|
that it does not affect Calif. State law nor the Feds, but it does send a
|
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|
strong msg to Sacramento. The San Francisco DA has promised to respect it.
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|
Watch for the Great San Fransisco Glaucoma Epidemic of 1992!
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 75. Sat 11-16-91 19:19
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: The Power of One....
|
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|
|
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|
Here's a few things each of us can do:
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|
1. Learn the facts. Any of the organizations I've posted will be more
|
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|
than happy to help you learn about hemp. "The Emperor Wears No
|
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|
Clothes" by Jack Herer is an excellent source book. B.A.C.H has a lot
|
|||
|
of practical info for getting into the legal hemp business.
|
|||
|
2. Talk about hemp to friends, family, co-workers and everybody. Never
|
|||
|
get tired and never be ashamed. Just say you think hemp should be
|
|||
|
made legal again. You'll be amazed at how many agree. Talk about
|
|||
|
medical marijuana, free choice and non-smoking commercial hemp(rope,
|
|||
|
paper, fabric, fuel, oil, food, etc.) Be proud of what you believe!
|
|||
|
This is America. Remember, you're in good company: Both Washington
|
|||
|
and Jefferson were hemp farmers. Pretend the entire movement rests
|
|||
|
on your shoulders. Never get tired of talking about hemp.
|
|||
|
3. Photocopy literature to pass out and send with your letters. Rubber
|
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|
Stamps are available for your envelopes.
|
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|
4. Write letters to your elected officials, newspapers, magazines, TV&
|
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|
radio stations. Be brief and clear. I'll be posting some "sample"
|
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|
letters soon.
|
|||
|
5. Help out a local group. Attend meetings. Make phone calls, do office
|
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|
work, fold and mail literature, etc. Offer your special skills (like
|
|||
|
data entry, research, speaking, art, organizing, copying, etc).
|
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|
6. Donate money to local groups. Contribute SUPPLIES or postage! All
|
|||
|
groups need access to free or cheap printing services. Donate books
|
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|
and magazines subscriptions to schools and libraries. Later on in
|
|||
|
the Spring, we'll be needing Billboard space, etc.
|
|||
|
7. Never let a lie (marijuana causes brain-damage, etc) to go by. Stand
|
|||
|
up and correct people when they speak ill of this plant.
|
|||
|
8. Register to vote! You have to be a registered voter to sign the
|
|||
|
Hemp Initiative petition. Voting also gets you on the prospective
|
|||
|
jurors list and may afford you an opportunity to excerice the right
|
|||
|
of jury-nullification in a hemp-law case. We have the power to STOP
|
|||
|
sending good people to jail!
|
|||
|
9. Stay positive and be happy! We live in exciting times. Great things
|
|||
|
are afoot! You have an opportunity to live the patriotic rhetoric
|
|||
|
we've all grown up with. Use the method of CONVERSION rather than
|
|||
|
confrontation. Trust that people are capable of making the right
|
|||
|
decision when given all the information. 55% of Coloradoans are in
|
|||
|
favor of re-legalizaton NOW! It's up to us to educate the public
|
|||
|
about medicine/paper/fiber/fuel/food/non-toxic paints and varnishes,
|
|||
|
etc. Once this information is learned, it cannot be ignored. (there
|
|||
|
are only two types of people who can ignore hemp: the hoplessly
|
|||
|
ignorant and the politically corrupt!) 1992 is going to be a fun
|
|||
|
and exciting year!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 76. Sun 11-17-91 19:36 (RECV'D)
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|
From: Ace Mon
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|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Good Views
|
|||
|
|
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|
I'm TRULY glad to see a forum of this type. I've been advocating the
|
|||
|
legalization of hemp for years and years. When you consider how addictive
|
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|
nicotine is (and destructive), it almost makes me ashamed to call myself
|
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|
an American. Here we have so many other legal chemicals that cause lung
|
|||
|
cancer, liver damage, etc., yet a harmless substance like hemp is stuck in
|
|||
|
the same "tarnished" corner as coke, crack, heroin, et all.
|
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|
However, despite the recent decade of conservative rulings, I see (and
|
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|
hear) more and more people beginning to see the hypocracy of such laws.
|
|||
|
I'm working every avenue that I can to help with the legalization and
|
|||
|
taxation of hemp, from discussions with friends and coworkers, to letters
|
|||
|
to state and federal legislators. I will not stop!
|
|||
|
The savings and benefits of legalized hemp are enormous. The first (and
|
|||
|
obvious) savings are the elimination of the so-called "drug war", which
|
|||
|
would allow budget funds to be used for more important social issues.
|
|||
|
Taxing hemp might prove to be lucrative enough to help destroy our
|
|||
|
staggering deficit. Ah, the ramifications boggle the mind.
|
|||
|
Anyway, enough flogging on my part. Thanks for cluing me into this
|
|||
|
section - I'll be checking it out from time to time.
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 77. Mon 11-18-91 20:35
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: D U NORML
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The University of Denver chapter of NORML meets Wednesday nights at 9:00
|
|||
|
at B A Room 209. All are welcomed.
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 78. Mon 11-18-91 20:37
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 79.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Set aside December 6th. Jack Herer, author of "The Emperor Wears No
|
|||
|
Clothes" will be in Denver. Jack is probably America's foremost authority
|
|||
|
on the commercial use of cannabis hemp. He'll give a lecture and there
|
|||
|
will be a book-signing. I'll post more info as it becomes available.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 79. Tue 11-19-91 17:02 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 78, 80.
|
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|
|
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|
When did jack get outta the slammer?
|
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|
I thought the good folks of South Carolina had managed to get him under
|
|||
|
raps.
|
|||
|
Glad he's out. Did they drop the charges, or did he make bail?
|
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|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 80. Wed 11-20-91 7:02 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 79, 81, 82.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
He made bail. I don't know all the details yet, but I hear they tore the
|
|||
|
sh*t out of his R-V, confiscated all his T-shirts, books, videos, etc.
|
|||
|
Kind of devestating, when you consider he makes his living from his
|
|||
|
travelling hemp-show. I'll talk to Connie over at Rocky Mtn Hemp today and
|
|||
|
see if I can learn more. There still looking for an indoor place to hold
|
|||
|
the rally....any suggestions?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 81. Wed 11-20-91 8:08 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 80, 83.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Regency Hotel, I-25 and 38th Ave. They have all kinds of meeting
|
|||
|
rooms, from small to large.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 82. Wed 11-20-91 18:20 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 80, 84.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| see if I can learn more. There still looking for an indoor place to hold
|
|||
|
| the rally....any suggestions?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If it would be acceptable for the Auraria Hemp club to be the offical host,
|
|||
|
then I can check on the gym or the student union. We have a meeting this
|
|||
|
saturday, I'll light it and see if it smokes.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 84. Thu 11-21-91 5:16 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Contemporary Folk Hero in town
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 82, 85.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I don't think there will be a problem with Auraria Hemp Club being
|
|||
|
official host....either the gym or the student union sounds good....they
|
|||
|
should be aware that there will be live bands. I'll run it up the hemp-
|
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|
stalk and see who salutes it over at NORML/Rcky Mtn Hemp. tks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 85. Thu 11-21-91 9:05 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Big Plans?
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 84, 86, 119.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So, when are yuse guys gonna set up a Rocky Mt. Hemp Board, and then a
|
|||
|
national hemp board net? Use them to publish and circulate mainly text
|
|||
|
files and messages/bulletins, and to feed your nets into other nets such
|
|||
|
as Fido. Make the netmail system work across a variety of board and pc
|
|||
|
types to have a wider reach. Spread the info. among lots of boards in
|
|||
|
different states and you'll be immune from "interference", if you know
|
|||
|
what I mean Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 86. Fri 11-22-91 6:57 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Big Plans?
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 85, 88.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just as soon as possible. The only things I'm lacking are Time, Money,
|
|||
|
and Know-how. Open to suggestions.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 87. Fri 11-22-91 6:59
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Library Project
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 90.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The following is from the Colorado Hemp Initiative Project:
|
|||
|
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
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|
THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES LIBRARY PROJECT
|
|||
|
In order to fully inform all high school students in Colorado about hemp,
|
|||
|
we make this offer: send $15 plus $3 postage to H.I.P. and we will donate
|
|||
|
one copy of "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" to the Colorado high school
|
|||
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library of your choice. Or you may allow us to select a school. Author
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Jack Herer's fine resource book about hemp is a "must" read for every high
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school student in the state. Our intention is to insure each student
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access to this book this year. Please help our youth to know the true
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facts about hemp. This could potentially be our most important
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information promotion this year. This book is the "bible" of hemp. Order
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a copy for yourself also.
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H.I.P
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1015 South Gaylord #181
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Denver, Co 80209
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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I see two possible things happening here, and both of them are good:
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1. The book will find its' way into many school libraries, and/or...
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2. Some tight-ass will attempt to "ban" the book, thereby insuring that
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every student in the state will WANT to read it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 88. Fri 11-22-91 11:03 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Big Plans?
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ALSO SEE: 86, 89.
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You're also lacking a little plastic object called a Round Tuit. Sorry,
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I'm fresh out Nyuk Nyuk! Suggestions? 1. Download a BBS sw pkg, GTP is
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just waiting for d/l on my h.d., but there's a whole lot more, for you I'd
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recommend Telegard because it has a million neat "security" or access
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features. 2. Start a BBS part time at first, then get a spare pc and
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phone line and go 24 hours. Can't the "movement" adopt the board and
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contribute $$? 3. Advertise to other "brothers" the idea, and maybe
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they'll have pcs that can turn into boards and hook up to your new "net".
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4. Pretty soon you won't be able to live without it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 90. Fri 11-22-91 20:19 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Library Project
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ALSO SEE: 87, 92.
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| I see two possible things happening here, and both of them are good:
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| 1. The book will find its' way into many school libraries, and/or...
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| 2. Some tight-ass will attempt to "ban" the book, thereby insuring that
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| every student in the state will WANT to read it.
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I'll put my money on Number two. It's sad, but I don't think we will
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Jack's bood in the school librarys any time soon.
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s
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 92. Sat 11-23-91 7:48 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Library Project
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ALSO SEE: 90, 94.
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I wish youse guys would wake up and smell the roses. Publish your
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materials electronically, not on paper (tree or hemp Nyuk Nyuk!).
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If you can talk Jack H. into it, you can electronicize his book into a
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text file or files that can be on every school's apple in months, and
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would be unstoppable.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 93. Sat 11-23-91 7:50 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: The Foad
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Subject: BBS
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ALSO SEE: 91, 95.
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Just get half of them to call my board Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 94. Sat 11-23-91 10:12 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: Library Project
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ALSO SEE: 92.
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Good Idea, but the logistics of it would be a bid difficult. Unless Jack
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still has an eltronic copy of his book. Also, this is a captilist society,
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for now anyway, and Jack does Sell his book to make his living, pay his
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bail, pay his lawyers, get his motor home fixed after the NC Storm
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Troopers tore it apart ans so fourth.
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I think the Double-Dare-Program is the best bet. It's going to be one
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mother**cker of a court battle to get one started here in Denver thou.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 100. Wed 11-27-91 7:48
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Jack Herer's visit....
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Jack Herer("The Emperor Wears No Clothes") will be in town Dec. 6...
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He will meet the public at HEMPwear, etc...1090 S. Wadsworth Unit D
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all day...10 AM - 8 PM....He'll be signing books and answering any
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questions you might have about hemp. HEMPwear, etc is Denver's only hemp-
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only store....just a reminder, HEMPwear, etc has it's grand opening on
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Sat, Nov 30 .....giveaways, hoopla.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 105. Wed 11-27-91 20:57 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: BBS
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ALSO SEE: 101, 109.
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I'll be there on the 6th, but I don't know about this saturday. Does
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sound like a fun family outing.
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I'm really looking forward to meeting Jack.
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Just got done organizing the club rouster. It looks like we got about 150
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members, after alowing for smart asses sighing phoney names.
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Our table at the Student Union was a real kick in the ass this week. We
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got put right between Citibank and the Marine Recruters. We tried to be
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nice, but the jarheads got real hostile when we offered them a free (a two
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dollor value) bumper sticker.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 108. Fri 11-29-91 14:14
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From: The Foad
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To: All
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|
Subject: Fatigue
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I was watching Heraldo's "Now it Can be Told' the other night. Not the
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|
most reliable Journalist, but he hit on a real interesting area.
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A few years back, when drugs started causing trains to run into each other,
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and planes started falling out of the sky, sometimes before, some times
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after running into other planes, the FAA and DOT both losened up the rest
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|
requiremnetsents for the operationrs of these vehicles.
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It used to be that piolots and other operators were required to have a
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minimum of eight hours rest between shifts and shift lengths /, and
|
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|
varried, depending on the job.
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Now, they are only required to have SIX hours between shifts. I don't
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know if there is any limit on the length of the shift. A lot of these
|
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people that were supposrdly on drugs at the time of the accident had been
|
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working for thirteen or more hours, often with no break.
|
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Both the FAA and the DOT refuse to acknowledge the posibilty that fatigue
|
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|
could be causing these accidents.
|
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|
Perhaps the we shouldn't be so worried about wether or not the pilot was
|
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|
blowing a dobbie last night, but wether or not the airlines let him get any
|
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|
sleep last night.
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 109. Mon 12-02-91 18:09 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
|
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|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: 60 Minutes
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 105, 110.
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I guess marines haven't changed much, though a lot I knew 20+ years ago
|
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were virtual smoking machines....different times, different circumstances.
|
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|
Last night 60 Minute did an excellent piece on medical marijuana. One
|
|||
|
doctor they interviewed preferred to prescribe a certain pharmaceutical
|
|||
|
drug (not marijuana) but it turned out THAT drug costs about $600 per day.
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|
Another doctor nailed it:Pharmaceutical companies are against hemp because
|
|||
|
they can't patent a plant.
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 110. Mon 12-02-91 22:02 (RECV'D)
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|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: 60 Minutes
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 109, 113.
|
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|
I really ment to watch it, but I couldn't be home. I did set my VCR, but
|
|||
|
it pretty much watches what it wants to watch.
|
|||
|
So, I missed it.
|
|||
|
Did they bring out that the Bush-man takes Maranol (sp?). I guess when
|
|||
|
one make $250,000-plus-perks per year, one can afford a few hundred a day.
|
|||
|
But those of us of a somewhat lower income braket)
|
|||
|
[Db bracket would sure find it nice to be able to grow it in our back yard
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|||
|
for nothing.
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|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 111. Tue 12-03-91 9:56
|
|||
|
From: The Lensman
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Hempwear
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 112, 120.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Does anyone know what the story is on the Hempwear store that was supposed
|
|||
|
to open last weekend at Wadsworth and Mississippi? I stopped by for the
|
|||
|
scheduled grand opening last Saturday to find an empty storefront. Is it
|
|||
|
a lost cause or just a delayed one... and until when?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman()
|
|||
|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 112. Tue 12-03-91 17:30 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: The Lensman
|
|||
|
Subject: Hempwear
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 111.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I haven't actualy been there YET, but it is right next to where the Rocky
|
|||
|
Moutian Hemp Network has been meeting, so I got a good idea why you didnt
|
|||
|
find it.
|
|||
|
The shopping center it's located in has two addresses. The 'L' shaped
|
|||
|
part is actualy 1080 S Wadsworth. 1090 S Wadsworth is the building in the
|
|||
|
center of the parking lot. Both 1080 and 1090 have a unit D, so chances
|
|||
|
are you went to 1080, next to the blood center.
|
|||
|
From what I understan, it's been open, but the big grand opening is going
|
|||
|
to be this Saturday.
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 113. Thu 12-05-91 6:19 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: 60 Minutes
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 110, 117.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
No...they didn't mention King Geo's use of marinol...please tell me more.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 115. Thu 12-05-91 6:22
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Give 'em enough rope...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hemp rope, that is....One of the benefits of living under an unwieldy
|
|||
|
bureaucracy is that it will always trip itself up with its own statistics.
|
|||
|
The following comes to us from the Federal Bureau of Mortality
|
|||
|
Statistics:
|
|||
|
How Dangerous is Marijuana Compared To Other Substances?
|
|||
|
# of Deaths Per Year
|
|||
|
Tobacco..............................340,000 to 425,000
|
|||
|
Alcohol..............................150,000+
|
|||
|
Aspirin..............................180 to 1,000+
|
|||
|
'Legal' Drug Overdose................14,000 to 27,000
|
|||
|
MARIJUANA............................0
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 116. Thu 12-05-91 14:53
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Today In History...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
December 5, 1933 Alcohol Prohibition Repealed by Citizen Referendum...
|
|||
|
Shows that, when given the chance, we CAN do something right.
|
|||
|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 117. Thu 12-05-91 17:50 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: 60 Minutes
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 113, 118.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You mean that you of all people didn't know that fearless leader has
|
|||
|
Glacoma (sp?).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 118. Fri 12-06-91 7:27 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: squinty George...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 117.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I had no idea.....I'll bet ya he and Babs have a bong squirreld away
|
|||
|
somewhere (Kinnebunkport?)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 119. Fri 12-06-91 20:40 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Nasty Bitch
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Question
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 85, 124.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm sorry, but I just got here.
|
|||
|
But I don't understand what you are talking about.
|
|||
|
What is Hemp? It sounds very familire.
|
|||
|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 120. Fri 12-06-91 20:44 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Nasty Bitch
|
|||
|
To: The Lensman
|
|||
|
Subject: Hempwear
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 111, 121.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Oaky, I see now. It's like halson, or chick. what kind of clothes does
|
|||
|
Hemp make?
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 121. Sat 12-07-91 7:58 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Nasty Bitch
|
|||
|
Subject: Hempwear
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 120.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hi, you Nasty Bitch, you. Welcome to this part of the board. Hemp is a
|
|||
|
fiber yielding plant which has been cultivated for 12,000 years. These
|
|||
|
days it's more popularly known as marijuana, a term coined by the Hearst
|
|||
|
newspapers during the smear campaign of the 30's. It can be made into just
|
|||
|
about any kind of cloth from the coarsest canvas (the Dutch word for
|
|||
|
cannabis) to elegant silk-like materials. The famous old Irish linens were
|
|||
|
originally made from hemp. The original long-lasting Levi's jeans were
|
|||
|
made from hemp. Unlike cotton, on which 50% of our agricultural
|
|||
|
pesticides/herbicides are used, hemp requires no such poisons. Hemp can be
|
|||
|
made into long-lasting paper so we can save our forests. Hemp can be made
|
|||
|
into fuel for energy to run our cars/homes/factories. It will yield from
|
|||
|
20-60 barrels methanol fuel per acre, making it the #1 bio-mass source.
|
|||
|
The Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp estimates that it can provide
|
|||
|
90% of our energy. We don't need nuclear power and we don't have to go to
|
|||
|
war in the Gulf again. Hemp, as medicine, has hundreds of uses. It is
|
|||
|
saving thousands of lives. Chemo-therapy and AIDS therapy produce what is
|
|||
|
called a "Wasting Syndrom"....patients lose their appetite and are plagued
|
|||
|
by a terrible nausea which hinders the use of oral medications. Smoking
|
|||
|
the leaves and flowers of the hemp plant stops the nausea, revives their
|
|||
|
appetite and lets them live. 10,000 glaucoma sufferers can save their
|
|||
|
vision by smoking hemp(10,000 per year in this country alone.) Hemp seeds
|
|||
|
yield cheap and plentiful food-stuffs, more versatile than the soybean. It
|
|||
|
can cheaply and quickly feed the starving people of this country and the
|
|||
|
third world. Not ten years from now. This could be a reality in less than
|
|||
|
a year, after hemp is relegalized. Anything petroleum makes, can be made
|
|||
|
from hemp. It can be made into plastic, etc. It can be made into
|
|||
|
fiberboard and other construction materials. With a profit potential of
|
|||
|
$500-$700 (or higher) per acre, it will save family farms. I believe our
|
|||
|
success in the coming century depends on our stewardship and utilization
|
|||
|
of this God-given miracle plant.
|
|||
|
I have also heard that smoking the leaves and flowers of this plant
|
|||
|
produces a mild-but-enjoyable relaxing effect.
|
|||
|
|
|||
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 122. Sat 12-07-91 8:20
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Fidonet Hemp Echo
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 123, 125.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The sysop over at The Circuit Board BBS (303) 666-0302 is working very
|
|||
|
hard to start up a National Hemp Echo. In order to justify an echo, he
|
|||
|
needs to have a lot of hemp-topic traffic going in the next week or so.
|
|||
|
From the main menu tap 9 for Rocky Mountain Hemp Network Information area.
|
|||
|
Let's all (both of us) make time to leave hemp msgs/info over there for
|
|||
|
him. I think this is going to be the first hemp echo, and it's very
|
|||
|
important....patriotic hempsters all over this great land can communicate
|
|||
|
with each other quickly and exchange ideas, schedules, who's in jail, who
|
|||
|
needs bail-money, who's going to be where, etc. It's also a quick way to
|
|||
|
educate the curious. The best thing about hemp info is that once you learn
|
|||
|
it, you can't forget it. You can't make it go away. It is turning
|
|||
|
thousands of people into dedicated activists. And it's the most fun many
|
|||
|
of us have had in years. My God....I think we're actually going to win
|
|||
|
this thing....
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 123. Sat 12-07-91 13:22 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Fidonet Hemp Echo
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 122, 126, 127.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Only problem is the Circuit Board is a FEE board. If you don't pay the
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fee, you barely get enough time to log on.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 124. Sat 12-07-91 18:14 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Nasty Bitch
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Subject: Question
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ALSO SEE: 119.
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Try reading the first 100 or so posts in this sub Nyuk Nyuk!
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Maybe you need to SMELL it to get the idea Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 125. Sat 12-07-91 18:15 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Fidonet Hemp Echo
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ALSO SEE: 122.
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I just tried the Circuit Board 666-0302, and my gosh, you're right Nyuk
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Nyuk! Just hit 9 from the Main Menu and you're in a veritable Hempland,
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on their much superior multiline Cadillac rig Nyuk Nyuk! Nice!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 126. Sat 12-07-91 18:16 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Fidonet Hemp Echo
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ALSO SEE: 123, 128.
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Well, you get more time if you upload them something first, so just have
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something ready, and maybe your access will improve.
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Maybe Kind Bud can swing a deal where those who get into the Hemp section
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of the board are given improved access just by posting a message there?
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 127. Sun 12-08-91 6:48 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Special Dispensation
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ALSO SEE: 123.
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I'll do that! There are many of us who are chronically self-employed,
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students, victims of IRS tyranny, etc (I have three kids in college!) and
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might be apt to avoid FEE type boards...In the mean time, just d/loading
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the registration form will net you more time.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 128. Sun 12-08-91 8:49 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: Fidonet Hemp Echo
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ALSO SEE: 126.
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I tried uploading, but you don't get much time to look around and see what
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they don't have. That and I can't get any protocal to work, not even
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xmodem. It downloads ok. I tried to leave a note asking if he had any
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suggestons, but I could't figure out how to exit the message editor. I
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guess I was having a bad day.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 129. Tue 12-10-91 12:40
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Fed.Judge sees the light....
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A friend of mine in local broadcasting told me of a recent AP newservice
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wire he recently saw. In W. Palm Beach FLA Fed Judge James C. Paine called
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for re-legalization of cannabis and other substances in his address to the
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Federal Bar Assn (I'm guessing the Fed Bar is for Fed Judges...not to be
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confused with the A B A.) He drew parallels between the current
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prohibition and the old Alcohol Prohibition, and said:"Trying to wage war
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on 23 million Americans who are obviously very committed to certain
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recreational activities is not working." The report said that other judges
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in attendance were "intrigued" by the concept. In 1988 DEA Administrative
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Law Judge Francis L. Young recommended that marijuana be reclassified as a
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Schedule II drug:"Based upon the facts established in this record and set
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out above, one must reasonably conclude that there is accepted safety for
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use of marijuana...To conclude otherwise, on this record, would be
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unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious..."
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Slowly, but surely.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 130. Tue 12-10-91 23:49 (RECV'D)
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From: Rick Blair
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To: The Foad
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Subject: D.A.R.E.
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ALSO SEE: 8, 132.
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I was bothered by one of your statements. It referred to the police not
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really being our friends. While I may not always agree with every law
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enacted, I do recognize their job is to enforce these laws. I believe the
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problem lies with the law and not the police. My attitude is probably
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biased in that a very close friend is an officer. I would not trade
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places with him for anything due to the nature of his job. I do respect
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him and the other officers I have met personally. Please do not take this
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as an all encompassing endorsement for all officers. There are bad apples
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in each walk of life. Just wanting to suggest all not be judged by the
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actions of a few or due to misdirected frustration over the legal system.
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Best of luck with your family. Rick
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 131. Wed 12-11-91 10:16 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
|
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Subject: Comments
|
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ALSO SEE: 135, 228.
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I got a private message t'other day by user Andy Weiss, I think he really
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wanted it to go in this sub, so I'm quoting it in full.
|
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He must have just read the One Plant article off the Bulletin menu.
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Very interesting argument. Here are some counter facts. The rain forests
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are being demolished for grazing land for cattle not paper production.
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Increased CO2 follows global warming, it isn't a cause this is a
|
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documented fact I just read in this months edition of either Scientific
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American or Discover. As far as relief goes for medical conditions I'd
|
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rather be cured, not temporarially relieved. Didn't China use opium for
|
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relief in the 1800's as it was heading to be a world power and ended up a
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third world pit with a majority of it population laying in opium dens?
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Yes, I do know pot isn't nearly as addictive as opium, but the similiarity
|
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is there.
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Hemp would make great jeans, shirts, jackets, or whatever. I'd gladly
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pay less for a pair of jeans that lasted much longer than cotton while
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being just as comfortable if not more comfortable.
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Poeple who are against drugs see your argument as a little step in the
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legalization of pot because they believe that members of NORML want to be
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able to smoke some thunder fuck or skunk weed without the threat of jail a
|
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lot more than they're interested in glaucoma or cancer patients. And
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legalizing pot is just a step in the legalization of all drugs. That's
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what some people believe and they are as scared of drugs as they are of
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change be it for the better or worse.
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|
The government falls under this catagory. I heard about how we paid
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the Chinese gov't to destroy some of their large hemp fields and in the
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process 3 species of birds that needed the large hemp fields to live were
|
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exterminated. I have friends who like to smoke pot and I've heard all the
|
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pro's, a lot more than the ones you've listed, and I've also heard the
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con's. One of my friends who really likes it thinks that its being
|
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illegal is good. He's knows too many people who, once they get some can't
|
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help themselves, they just sit there and smoke it till it's gone.
|
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I know a nurse who says she'd smoke it if it was legal but being
|
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professional and a member of a medical clinic, it would look real bad if
|
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she got busted, won't. bou has she got some stories of the days before
|
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she became professional. and the pictures of her fields too boot
|
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.
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I also know that there is much less violence as concerts when pot is
|
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plentyfull in the county as there is when pot is scarce.
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One of my friends who likes to smoke it tells me that he'll never go to
|
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a hemp rally. I don't know about the ones out here in Colorado, but the
|
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ones in Michigan are attended by 14 year olds in heavy metal t-shirts,
|
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60's rejects and 60's wanna-bee's (his words). He says they hurt the
|
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cause more than they help it. Then a picture of the worst looking ones
|
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end up in the news paper to further convince every one else the pot
|
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destroys lives.
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It may sound like I've gone about a 180 degree turnabout, or was it 270
|
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, either way I don't think NORML is going to mke a difference, especially
|
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with all the bad publicity that crack and gang violence is giving drugs
|
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even though crack is in no way similiar to pot.
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Is NORML trying to grow hemp for industry. The way I see it NORML
|
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|
isn't doing anything. It wants to legalize high THC pot. It's fighting
|
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|
big government and I don't think it has any chance of winning. Why
|
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|
doesn't it propose to grow low THC hemp in a prototype industry and
|
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|
produce some tough, cheap, comfortable cloth; oil; and food?
|
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|
I've rambled on long enough. I'll go browse the adult section and get
|
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aroused.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 132. Wed 12-11-91 17:44 (RECV'D)
|
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From: The Foad
|
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|
To: Rick Blair
|
|||
|
Subject: D.A.R.E.
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 130.
|
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Ah, new blood.
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|
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I'm glad you are bothered by my attitude twards the police. I'm bothered
|
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by it too. I SHOULD not have that attitude. But we line in a country
|
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|
were not having that attitude has proven leathal to many.
|
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|
As far as the D.A.R.E. program, the officers flat out lie to the children,
|
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|
and they use their postion of authority to convince children to search
|
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|
their homes and turn their parents in if they find anything.
|
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|
Officers regularly take the possession of private citizens without
|
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|
So much as even filing charges.
|
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|
I could go on and on, but that would be pointless. I still stand by my
|
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|
belief that anybody who trusts a cop is a fool.
|
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|
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As far a having friends that are cops..
|
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|
I have many friends that are cops, I also have many friends, that like
|
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|
myself, didn't like the direction things are going, so they quit being
|
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|
cops.
|
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|
Did you know that there were eight bank robberies in the Denver area last
|
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|
week? The reason nobody hears about them is the cops on't give a diddly
|
|||
|
about them. What counts is taking the most property, and putting the most
|
|||
|
"junkies" in jail.
|
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|
In a survey taken a few months ago of children who had compleated the
|
|||
|
D.A.R.E. programing, there was a question about the job of the police
|
|||
|
officer.
|
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|
"What is the job of a police officer
|
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|
(A) To arrest people who break the law
|
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|
(B) To protect people
|
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|
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|
87 percent of the children answered "A".
|
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|
Mabye it's just a matter of semantics. But it scares the hell outa me.
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 137. Sun 12-15-91 7:00 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Andy Weiss
|
|||
|
Subject: Permit me....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 183.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Hi, Andy...welcome to the discussion. You've raised some interesting
|
|||
|
points, and I'd like to jump in and address them, if I may...
|
|||
|
|Rain forests are being demolished for grazing land for cattle, not for
|
|||
|
|paper...
|
|||
|
The destruction of the Brazilian includes agriculture as well as other
|
|||
|
timber-related enterprises. The Indonesian and South-East Asian
|
|||
|
rainforests are being decimated by the Japanese at an alarming rate
|
|||
|
strictly for traditional timber purposes. Our own North American forests
|
|||
|
are also in danger...According to the Dept. of the Interior, over 50% of
|
|||
|
our forests have been cut in the last half-century. The average age of an
|
|||
|
American tree is just under 8 years. Last spring, Wisconsin paper mills
|
|||
|
began receiving shipments of Brazilian Eucalyptus pulp to be made into
|
|||
|
paper. These are dollars that should be going to American farmers. A lot
|
|||
|
of sulfer acids are needed to pulp wood for paper...dioxins are released
|
|||
|
into the atmosphere and ground water. Hemp can be pulped using 1/5 to
|
|||
|
1/7th the harmful chemicals needed to pulp wood. Roughly half the
|
|||
|
pesticides/herbicides used in agriculture are used on cotton, again
|
|||
|
seeping into our ground water supply....hemp needs no such poisons, and
|
|||
|
can be grown on marginal land where little else grows.
|
|||
|
|As far as relief goes for medical conditions, I'd rather be cured, not
|
|||
|
|temporarily relieved.
|
|||
|
I doubt you'd find any dissenters among the millions of people suffering
|
|||
|
from cancer, AIDS, glaucoma, MS, MD, epilepsy, asthma, anorexia, et al.
|
|||
|
Until those miracle cures are found, it's our responsibility to see to it
|
|||
|
that every American who needs marijuana for medicine recieves it
|
|||
|
immediately. To do anything less is worse than inhumane..it's insane.
|
|||
|
|I know pot is not nearly as addictive as opium...
|
|||
|
Right. I see no parallels between marijuana and opium, either, though
|
|||
|
alcohol and tobacco would certainly fit in that category: both are
|
|||
|
addictive and deadly. There is not a single marijuana induced death on
|
|||
|
record.
|
|||
|
|Hemp would make great jeans, shirts, jackets, etc. I'd gladly...
|
|||
|
Check out Hempware, etc, 1090 S Wadsworth, Unit D...Colorado's first
|
|||
|
full-blown hempery...hemp clothing, and other hemp products, including a
|
|||
|
brand of hempseed-oil called "Happy Hempster!" There is a reading room and
|
|||
|
video selection in the back of the store...you can view "Hemp For
|
|||
|
Victory!", a WWII propaganda film produced by the Dept. of Agriculture,
|
|||
|
encouraging farmers to grow 400,000 acres of hemp for the war effort. A
|
|||
|
lot of the "ditch-weed" found in the midwest is the progeny of that
|
|||
|
effort. While at Hempware, etc, you can sit and read "The Emperor Wears No
|
|||
|
Clothes" by Jack Herer....the bible of the contemporary hemp movement. Or
|
|||
|
just drop by and say hi to Connie, who owns the store....she's an
|
|||
|
outspoken and patriotic lady, a true bulwark of the movement. She suffers
|
|||
|
from glaucoma and is full of info about the commercial/industrial/medical
|
|||
|
applications of cannabis hemp. Hempware, etc is open from 10 am to 8 pm
|
|||
|
Monday thru Saturday.
|
|||
|
|People who are againts drugs...believe that members of NORML want to be
|
|||
|
|able to smoke some Thunderfuck or Skunkweed without the threat of jail.
|
|||
|
At least we have no trouble getting that portion of our message across.
|
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|
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness are not priveleges to be taken
|
|||
|
away at the whim of some petty despot...They are inalienable rights, and
|
|||
|
worth fighting for. It's not unreasonable for productive, responsible
|
|||
|
individuals to expect to be able to enjoy this herb without fear of
|
|||
|
imprisonment, property forfeiture and financial ruin. Drug War Hysteria
|
|||
|
has violated every one of our Bill of Rights, with the exception of
|
|||
|
Article III, the quartering of troops. Hemp is as much a freedom-movement,
|
|||
|
as an evironmental/economic/medicinal one. I believe if we don't fight for
|
|||
|
our freedom in this last decade of the 20th century, we probably won't
|
|||
|
have any in the next century. I think we'll win, because America is the
|
|||
|
country that started it all.
|
|||
|
|I don't think NORML is going to make a difference...Is NORML trying to
|
|||
|
grow hemp for industry? THe way I see it, NORML isn't doing anything. It
|
|||
|
wants to legalize high THC pot. It's fighting Big Government and I don't
|
|||
|
|think it has a chance of winning...
|
|||
|
C'mon Andy! Let's see that frown turn upside down! The Government is a
|
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|
dinosaur dying under it's own weight....still dangerous and deadly, but
|
|||
|
dying all the same. We can each run up and chuck a spear or two to help
|
|||
|
put it out of it's misery. It's unable to serve the needs of it's people
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 138. Sun 12-15-91 7:49 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Andy Weiss
|
|||
|
Subject: Part 2, how I do prattle on...
|
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|
|
|||
|
unable to serve the needs of it's people. There is growing dissatisfaction
|
|||
|
everywhere. Our president's kid stole a billion (give or take) dollars.
|
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|
Links between the CIA and hard-drugs are well documented. Workers are
|
|||
|
being laid off in record numbers, and small businesses are failing at a
|
|||
|
higher rate than at any time in our history. People are ready to learn the
|
|||
|
truth about hemp and what it can do for our economy. And, there's never
|
|||
|
been a better time than the present for it's relegalization. Who among us
|
|||
|
could have predicted the fall of the Berlin Wall? The break-down of the
|
|||
|
Soviet Union? There's the smell of freedom in the air, and it's high time
|
|||
|
we spread some of around in the good old U S of A.
|
|||
|
|Why doesn't (NORML) propose to grow some low THC hemp in a prototype
|
|||
|
|industry and provide some tough, cheap, comfortable cloth:oil:food?
|
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|
Because it;s ILLEGAL to grow hemp. That's what this is all about. After a
|
|||
|
two year battle, John Birrenbach of the Institute for Hemp (St. Paul) has
|
|||
|
finally obtained the necessary permits from the Minnesota Department of
|
|||
|
Agriculture to grow 100 acres of Hemp in 1992. Now, he has to battle the
|
|||
|
feds to obtain THEIR permits, so that he can possess viable seed in order
|
|||
|
to plant the hemp. (Probably several more years in court.) A Russian
|
|||
|
agricultural delegation met with John last spring to learn
|
|||
|
hemp-harvesting/pulping methods. Russia was a leading producer of hemp in
|
|||
|
the last century, and are planning to get back into its production
|
|||
|
again.(Napolean invaded Russia to cut off Englands hemp supply.) Bill I.
|
|||
|
of Hemp Environmental Activists (Michigan State University) is also
|
|||
|
attempting to obtain the necessary permits for Hemp farming. The battle is
|
|||
|
being waged all across the country as the movement gains momentum. Jim
|
|||
|
Young, technical editor of PULP & PAPER Magazine (a wood-pulp industry
|
|||
|
rag) recently wrote an article:"It's Time To Reconsider Hemp." (June 1991)
|
|||
|
I also recommend a look at the May 2, 1991 WALL STREET JOURNAL's front
|
|||
|
page arcticle by Sonia L. Nazario:"What Is As Versatile As The Soybean But
|
|||
|
Illegal Anyway?" Willie Nelson, Gatewood Gailbraith, Hugh Downs and others
|
|||
|
are going public in support of hemp. It's an idea who's time has come. BTW,
|
|||
|
to listen to a 10 minute recording of Hugh Down's ABC 20/20 piece on Hemp,
|
|||
|
just call 470-1100 from your touch-tone phone....when connected, punch in
|
|||
|
477. If you appreciate what you hear, then punch 411 for a complete
|
|||
|
directory of recorded information. There is a lot going on here that the
|
|||
|
general public is not yet aware of...the hemp movement is going to grow
|
|||
|
throughout the 90's....I'm out of time....talk to you later...come join us
|
|||
|
at Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion corner....check out the msgs and let us know
|
|||
|
what you're thinking....
|
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|
KB
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 139. Sun 12-15-91 8:39 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Andy Weiss
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Subject: just one more thing...
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A local bio-mass specialist named Auga Das produces a show called
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"Sustainable Futures" on Mile High Community Access...the show often
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touches on the many applications of hemp...Das also runs a small company
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called Original Sources which produces hempseed-oil and hemp
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foods...Alfalfa's Market has recently started carrying the
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hempseed-oil...his oil and other hemp-food products are also available in
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several other health-food type strores. This holiday season, he's also
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marketing an egg-nog made from hempseed milk. If you have time to check
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out Kind Bud's Corner, but find the traffic too much to bear, try reading
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msg#'s 5/19/53/54/58-59/73/74/75...
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Sorry for all the typo's....My wood-stove is a slow starter and I'm
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freezing my fingers off.....
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 140. Mon 12-16-91 13:46
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From: M Man
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To: All
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Subject: HEMPWARE
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ALSO SEE: 141.
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First of all I would like to say how great it is to see this type of
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disscusion going on. People are finally spreading the word!
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The Boulder Hemp Inititive Project (B.H.I.P.) was started this fall on the
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CU campus and there is lots of interest here. yes
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Meetings are tuesday evenings at 7:00pm and we meet just inside the doors
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of the UMC terrace entrance on the CU Boulder campus everyone is welcome.
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Has anyone been to Hempware yet? time is up
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 141. Tue 12-17-91 7:10 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: M Man
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Subject: Hello
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ALSO SEE: 140.
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and welcome to the discussion. Yes! I've been to HEMPware, etc. several
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times and the place is really popping. They've recieved excellent coverage
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from AP news service, Denver Post, and several radio stations...lots of
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good hemp products plus a reading room for the general public. The last
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time I was there they had a device on loan from MindFlight, Inc....I can
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only describe the device as a "Brain-machine"...sort of an electronic
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audio-visual psychedelic experience....you'd have to try it to appreciate
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it. Keep us informed as to the goings-on at B-H.I.P., and let those
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fine folks know about this bbs. Be talking to ya later...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 142. Tue 12-17-91 8:09
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From: Big Boy
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To: All
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Subject: New to Board?
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If you are new to this board and want to download some files on hemp,
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try the following command at the main menu prompt:
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w k hemp
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This will show you the names of any hemp files available for download,
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as well as the file area where they reside.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 143. Thu 12-19-91 7:14
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Swiss Hash Law
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From Rocky Mtn News Nov. 8,91:
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SWISS COURT CUTS HASH PENALTY
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Lausanne, Switzerland
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The Swiss Supreme Court yesterday reduced the penalty for casual dealers
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of hashish, saying the drug was no more dangerous than alcohol. Those
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convicted of selling even large quantities of hashish on an occasional
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basis will no longer be classed as "serious" offenders.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 144. Thu 12-19-91 17:00
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Rotarians learn about reefer..
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Last Tuesday, Mark Culverhouse of NORML-Colorado was invited to speak at a
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Rotarian luncheon at a North Denver Red Lobster....he reports that the
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group was very receptive to the information and asked all the "right"
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questions concerning economics/environment/medicine, etc. He has been
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invited to speak at another Rotarian meeting soon. After the speech, 3
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wait-persons volunteered to work as petitioners....
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 145. Thu 12-19-91 17:04
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: It's Legal! It's Legal!
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A friend of mine writes for "High Times" magazine and is often in touch
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with the editorial staff of that fine journal. He tells me that they
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report that Tazmania, a province of Australia, has legalized the
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commercial farming of hemp....This is the result of months of lobbying by
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a group of environmentalists/farmers....apparently Tazmania has been
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having a serious pollution problem as a result of their wood-pulp-paper
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industry. This shows that it can be DONE! Tazmania will join China,
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Hungary, Czecho, Italy, Spain, and France in the production of commercial
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hemp. Russia and other east-European countries will follow suit soon. The
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United Nation's International Treaty on Marijuana is going hell in a
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basket!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 146. Thu 12-19-91 17:12
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: more through the hemp-vine....
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ALSO SEE: 154.
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That same friend also tells me that the Polish General Assembly has gone
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the de-criminalization route as far as personal use goes....apparently
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they are using the "Amsterdam Model" of pot regulation....For those who
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are not aware of what's happening in Holland, marijuana is still "illegal",
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but it is not considered worth prosecuting....many coffee houses in
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Amsterdam and smaller villages openly offer marijuana/hashish on a
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separate menu. Patrons are free to smoke in a stress-free environment. In
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the fall, after the ballot-initiative battle is over, we're all going to
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need a much-deserved vacation....I propose we put together a coalition of
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hemp-warriors and get a group-rate for a week in Amsterdam! Tourist class
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hotels run $40 a night for a double. Anyone interested should drop me a
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line.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 147. Fri 12-20-91 11:43 (NO KILL)
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From: M Man
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To: All
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Subject: B.H.I.P.
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Well all is well after another meeting of the Boulder Hemp Inititive
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Project. We now have our own meeting room in the UMC on the CU campus.
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The administration likes what we are doing! Since we are mostly students
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there will not be anymore meetings until January. I will let you know
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when we are going to start up again. We have some good plans for the new
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|
year! The year of HEMP!!!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 148. Sun 12-22-91 18:45
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
|
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Subject: quote for the day
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ALSO SEE: 161.
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"Now this hemp is the finest fibre known to mankind, my God, if you ever
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have a shirt made out of it, your grandchildren would never wear it out.
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You take Polish families. We used to see marijuana in the yards of Polish
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families. We'd go in and start to tear it up and the man came out with his
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shotgun, yelling:'These are my clothes for next winter.'"
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Harry J Anslinger,
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former Commissioner, US Fed.Bureau of
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Narcotics.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 149. Mon 12-23-91 11:39
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From: Big Boy
|
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To: All
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Subject: Another Board Hemps Up
|
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I just found out that Mobius Continuum, 466-5368, a Telegard board, has
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started a sub on Hemp, and most of the posts were pro-hemp Nyuk Nyuk!
|
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|
Now somebody should get them to sponsor a Hemp echo on whatever net
|
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|
they're on, I think they call it Swashnet. They also started a hemp file
|
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|
area with no download ratio (all my areas have no d/l ratio already Nyuk
|
|||
|
Nyuk!). All because I u/l-ed them a hemp file a month ago and forgot to
|
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|
check up on what they did after that Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 150. Wed 12-25-91 6:13
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From: Kind Bud
|
|||
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To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp Hemp Hemp Hemp Hemp Hemp
|
|||
|
|
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|
I've found another hemp discussion going on over on One World-One People
|
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|
BBS, 238-6976 in their environmental issues sub. I logged on about three
|
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|
weeks ago, and mentioned what a shame it was that the trees were
|
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|
disappearing....I came back a couple of days ago, and their talking hemp!
|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 151. Wed 12-25-91 6:16
|
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From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: New Files....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 152.
|
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|
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|
I've just uploaded KINDBUD.ZIP and MUGGLES.ZIP...KB contains a
|
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|
prosecutor's expert panel recommendations for legalization....this was
|
|||
|
suppressed by the Calif Atty General...also DEA Judge Francis Young's
|
|||
|
decision calling for re-scheduling of marijuana, and a conversation
|
|||
|
between Jack Herer and a high-ranking USDA official.
|
|||
|
MUGGLES contains the Pulp & Paper article "It's Time To Reconsider
|
|||
|
Hemp"...the Wall St Journal front page article on hemp, the famous 1938
|
|||
|
Popular Mechanics article "New Billion Dollar Crop", and more...
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 152. Wed 12-25-91 10:10 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: New Files....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 151.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Well (ahem), muggles.zip is now called hempsrce.zip. I have so many hemp
|
|||
|
files now that I've set up a special hemp file area. Now if somebody with
|
|||
|
wp would d/l the files that are in wp format and reformat them into text
|
|||
|
files that us yokels without wp can read....
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 153. Mon 12-30-91 10:59
|
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From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Fido Echo
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ask your favorite sysops to drop a line to Jim Burt [1:104:115] and ask
|
|||
|
for a feed of the hemp echo....we need to spread the word.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 154. Mon 12-30-91 21:33 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Deicide
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: more through the hemp-vine
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 146, 160.
|
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|
|
|||
|
re. amsterdam. Me and three other friends are seriously considering
|
|||
|
going this summer and have a lot of the shit worked out. It'll cost
|
|||
|
around $700.00 on airfare alone in the middle of the summer which is
|
|||
|
quite a bit, but I think it will be well worth it. the travel agent
|
|||
|
I talked to said that hotels might run as high as $70.00 a night (for
|
|||
|
bread and breakfast). got any better suggestions for where to look
|
|||
|
kind bud?)
|
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|
|
|||
|
another serious idea that I have been considering is flat out moving
|
|||
|
thereaargh.. two minute warning... i guess i'll continue later...
|
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|
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|
the deicide
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 156. Tue 12-31-91 6:45
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp Initiative...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
was submitted to the appropriate legislative body yesterday, Dec 30. They
|
|||
|
have 15 days to make wording suggestions. If changes are minor, the
|
|||
|
document should be at the Secretary of State's office by mid January and
|
|||
|
the petition drive will be underway!
|
|||
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 157. Wed 1-01-92 10:20
|
|||
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From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Year of Hemp
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Happy New Year to all! 1992 is the year of hemp!
|
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|
When I get the final draft of the Hemp Initiative Petition Document, I'll
|
|||
|
convert it to text file for you....(right now it runs about 14 pages.)
|
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|
I'll also keep you informed as to when/where it will be available for
|
|||
|
signing.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 158. Fri 1-03-92 18:59
|
|||
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From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Public Hemp Meeting Reminder
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 162.
|
|||
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|
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|
Saturday, January 4, Rocky Mountain Hemp Network has it's Public Meeting
|
|||
|
at HEMPware, etc., 1090 S Wadsworth Unit D from 6 pm to 8 pm.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 159. Sat 1-04-92 11:17
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: this just in...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
According to the Dec 30 issue of Time, a garden supply chain in Prague,
|
|||
|
Czecho is selling one pound bags of Romanian marijuana for 85 cents...not
|
|||
|
a typo...85 cents a pound...as fertilizer. This seems to have re-sparked
|
|||
|
an interest in gardening among the citizens of Prague. According to the
|
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|
article, thanks to the "confused" post-communist legal system this is
|
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|
legal. It seems to me that we are the ones with the confused legal system.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 161. Sun 1-05-92 21:44 (RECV'D)
|
|||
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From: The Deicide
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: quote for the day
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 148, 163.
|
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|
|
|||
|
(re. Harry Aslinger quote)
|
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|
|
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|
was this before or after his campaign to combat weed? anyone know what
|
|||
|
he's doing now-a-days?
|
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|
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|
Deicide
|
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|
/s
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 163. Mon 1-06-92 6:53 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Deicide
|
|||
|
Subject: Harry Anslinger
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 161.
|
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|
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|
He remained this country's top narc until 1961....I think he died a couple
|
|||
|
of years after that. Too bad.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 164. Mon 1-06-92 6:55 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Deicide
|
|||
|
Subject: Hempware, etc./Rocky Mtn Hemp
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 162.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
phone number....I only have the # where you can leave a msg....470-1100
|
|||
|
ext 611.
|
|||
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 166. Sun 1-12-92 9:12 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: George Bush's Puke Lumps
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 167, 170.
|
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|
|
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|
Do you think Bush's puking episode had anything to do with drugs? Nyuk
|
|||
|
Nyuk!
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 167. Sun 1-12-92 18:43 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: George Bush's Puke Lumps
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 166.
|
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|
|||
|
I think a little pot could have helped with the nausea. I basically
|
|||
|
have the same reaction to Japanese cuisine. The really scarry part is the
|
|||
|
thought of little Danny Quayle running around the White House asking:"Is
|
|||
|
Georgies tummie better?.....Georgies tum-tum better?"
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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Msg No: 168. Sat 1-18-92 10:03 (RECV'D)
|
|||
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From: Dr. Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: hello
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Saw your area listed in the Colorado NORML Reformer we got in the mail
|
|||
|
today. Thought we'd give it a looksee. We have a H.E.M.P. BBS set up
|
|||
|
here in Maryland at (410) 685-2894, which has areas for a lot of the major
|
|||
|
activist groups around right now... including C.H.A.W. (Coalition for Hemp
|
|||
|
Awareness Worldwide), which is organizing events for 1992 across the
|
|||
|
country. We have many file areas with lots of information on the benefits
|
|||
|
of hemp as well as excerpts from Jack Herer's book dealing with the
|
|||
|
history of the hemp plant. It's great to see more BBS's willing to handle
|
|||
|
the question of legalization and ending the drug war.
|
|||
|
Right now, the Maryland Marijuana Movement is busy organizing the state
|
|||
|
capitol for an initiative like Proposition P in San Francisco. They have
|
|||
|
the support of a member of the City Council who is willing to present it
|
|||
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as a ballot initiative if they can collect enough signatures. People are
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finally starting to listen.
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Keep up the good work and educate as many people as you can.
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Dr. Hemp
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Chief Hempster
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 169. Sat 1-18-92 12:25 (RECV'D)
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From: Mongo Stack
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Greetings
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ALSO SEE: 178.
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Dear Mr. Bud, I've finally got around to dialing this BBS, and what a fine
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corner you have here too! The Libertarian Party O' Boulder County meets at
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the James Pub the second Sunday of each month, 2:00 pm. Just starting a
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campus group at CU, which will probably be a branch of Students for
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Individual Liberty (SIL) which is affiliated with the International
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Society for Individual Liberty. We're hoping that this will attract
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students who ordinarily join a purely political group, since the ISIL has
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worldwide prestige while still remaining libertarian in a very upfront
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kind of way. They also publish a number of position papers such as "Ending
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our Drug Nightmare", written by Jarret Wollstein, which shows the benefits
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of ending the WOD by legalization. Hope to see you again soon, just
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checked out the HEMP shop in Lakewood, looking pretty good! Our
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Libertarian pal Steve was recently busted on four misdemeanors, including
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failure to produce a license on demand by a police officer, no
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registration, driving on suspended license, and failure to produce proof
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of insurance. When the cop pulled Steve over, he asked Steve for his
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license and Steve refused, citing his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self
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incrimination. The cop told him that he was "technically under arrest", so
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Steve told him that if that was the case, he demanded counsel, a Fourth
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Amendment Search Warrent, and probable cause, whereupon the cop escorted
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him to jail after searching his car. At the jail, Steve again demanded
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counsel and a phone call. The jailer told him that he "had been watching
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too much tv". Anyhow, Steve was arraigned Thursday. We had worked up a
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brief, refusing jurisdiction and claiming violation of Constitutional
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rights, but never got to use it! Apparently, the DA had read the police
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report and realized what we were up to. All charges were dropped except
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for failure to produce license, and when Steve plead Not Guilty, they said
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they'd drop that one too. Smash the State! Steve can still sue under Title
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42 of the USC, and we're looking into that. This all came about through
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taking the Barrister Inn school of Common Law, and we haven't even
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finished it yet! We plan to open a school in Boulder soon, to let people
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know what their rights really are, and how they can sue for big bucks when
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the police invariably violate these rights. The secret lies in claiming
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all your rights while waiving none, which is what they try to get you to
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do when they arrest you. It takes a lot of studying, but knowing your
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rights can keep you out of jail! Hope to see you soon, xxxoo Mongo.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 170. Sat 1-18-92 19:57 (RECV'D)
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From: The Deicide
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: George Bush's Puke Lumps
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ALSO SEE: 166.
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(re. GB throwing chunks): I dunno.... Nancy Reagan was a Valium addict
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during Ronnie's presidency, though, making it possible...
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I'm sure GB just had too much to drink, but it doesn't really matter
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considering alcohol is socially acceptable in America... ahh well.
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deicide
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 171. Fri 1-24-92 17:07 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: I'm Baaaack
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ALSO SEE: 165, 174.
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I kinda, sorta forgot to pay my phone bill for a few months, and they went
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and cut me off. Can you belive that?
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But it's paid now, and I got my modem back. It got pretty scary for
|
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awhile there, withdrals and all.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 174. Wed 1-29-92 11:43 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: I'm Baaaack
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|
ALSO SEE: 171, 175, 176.
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Nice to see ya back....
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The Hemp Initiative is almost ready to go public...it's sitting at the
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Secretary of State's office now....Natalie the Nazi....If she thought
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|
Doug Bruce was a pain in the ass, wait'll she gets a load of us!....
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|
BTW, I had a terrific HEMP topic going on PRODIGY, of all places, for
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about
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|
a week, till the Prodigy censors freaked out and destroyed it....funny
|
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|
thing, there's a "Legalize All Drugs" topic going on Prodigy, and it's not
|
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|
being touched by the censors....somebody was sensitive to the industrial/
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commercial message that HEMP tells, and they X'd it....that just goes to
|
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|
prove what we've been saying all along.
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|
This coming weeken I'll be running a HEMP booth at the BIG
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Motorcycle Show at the Western Stock Show Complex.....about 7,000 people
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are expected to show up, and I expect the HEMP table to be the most
|
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popular one there....try to make it, if you can.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 175. Wed 1-29-92 19:06 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
|
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|
To: Kind Bud
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|
Subject: I'm Baaaack
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|
ALSO SEE: 174.
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I'll try to make it. I wanted an excuse to get out.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 176. Thu 1-30-92 21:25 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
|
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|
To: Kind Bud
|
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|
Subject: Cycle Show
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|
ALSO SEE: 174.
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Any chance of having the petitions in hand by the show? Seems like it
|
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|
would be good for a couple of thousand sigs.
|
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|
Anyway, where will your both be and what time will you be there, and most
|
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|
inportant, can you get me in free? (just kidding)
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 177. Fri 1-31-92 14:23
|
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|
From: M Man
|
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|
To: All
|
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|
Subject: B.H.I.P.
|
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|
|
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|
Well another B.H.I.P. meeting has come and gone but it was a real good one
|
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|
so I thought I would tell you about it. Tom Barrus came by the meeting
|
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|
with a copy of the inititive which he had just submitted to state
|
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|
legislature earlier that day. He explained everything in great detail and
|
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|
it sounded real good. The earliest that signatures could be collected is
|
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|
probably February 6 after the hearings on the inititive are done.
|
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|
Hopefully there will not be any unseen delays but who knows with our
|
|||
|
government. The next meeting is on tuesday at 7:00 pm in UMC 157A on the
|
|||
|
Boulder CU campus. The room is downstairs. We are going to be watching
|
|||
|
some good movies so come on by if you can.
|
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|
|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 179. Mon 2-03-92 3:13
|
|||
|
From: Peter Perez
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Weedman
|
|||
|
|
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|
Hi,
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|
I've been following (sorta) the hemp thang.....It's very interesting for a
|
|||
|
former hoppie....who's sunk into the dregs of alcohol....as a legal
|
|||
|
alternative to my choice......
|
|||
|
Anyhooo.....a good joke I robbed from Playboy mag a few years ago....
|
|||
|
they did a thang on macho sushi.....
|
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|
Evereybody gotta see old George choke and puke live.....
|
|||
|
It goes somethin` like this.....
|
|||
|
Geo...was at the state din. din...in Japan.....he turns to his side and
|
|||
|
asks the Japanese man to his side....."what is this dish called"????
|
|||
|
The gent replies....."We call it macho sushi".....Geo.....asks????huh?
|
|||
|
The Japanese gent says "it's called blow-hunka" well we all know what
|
|||
|
happenes next.....
|
|||
|
Wicked Uncle Pete...
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 180. Wed 2-05-92 12:12
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Paul Harvey
|
|||
|
|
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|
I didn't get it tapped, couldn't find a blank in time.
|
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|
But just a few moments ago, on his noon broadcast on KOA, Paul Harvey came
|
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|
out PRO-HEMP. I couldn't belive it!
|
|||
|
Things do be lookin up.
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 183. Sun 2-09-92 19:12 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Andy Weiss
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Reply to "permit me...."
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 137.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I agree with a lot of what you said. I know how devastating the paper
|
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|
industry is to the environment. Hemp would reduce that burden on the
|
|||
|
biosphere.
|
|||
|
"chuck a spear or two to help put it out of its misery." OUR
|
|||
|
government fills a lot of OUR needs. I think anyone who is looking to
|
|||
|
put the government out of its misery is going to lose. I believe that the
|
|||
|
gov't has reached critical mass years ago and is now growing beyond our
|
|||
|
control or its control. Isn't the gov't the largest employer in the
|
|||
|
state?
|
|||
|
There are two things that scare me about our gov't. First more and
|
|||
|
more people are relinquishing responsibilities. To keep order someone or
|
|||
|
something must accept responsibility. Here the gov't is willing to 'serve
|
|||
|
the people', except with responsibilities the people are also giving up
|
|||
|
rights.
|
|||
|
Secondly, the gov't also creates jobs where none are needed. While
|
|||
|
this may be nice for some politician to be able to say "I created 250 jobs
|
|||
|
for my constituents last year" and it may be nice for the worker who got
|
|||
|
the job, the odds are that job will be involved in the regulation of
|
|||
|
something that wasn't regulated the year before.
|
|||
|
That results in a greater tax burden for me that I don't want and it
|
|||
|
also may limitsomething that I may want to do.
|
|||
|
I've seen assholes at work create positions underneath them to enlarge
|
|||
|
their departments and stroke their egos. "I now head the largest
|
|||
|
department" they say. Yea, but all they do is sit on their ass and the
|
|||
|
people under them play pocket pool all day because there is nothing to do
|
|||
|
I know politicians do this and WE are their cash cow. they lie to us and
|
|||
|
take our money. I'm glad some of the gov't is there and I don't mind
|
|||
|
or should I say I accept, paying taxes for the things that I need. I
|
|||
|
believe, though, that I pay a lot of taxes for things that I don't need or
|
|||
|
want.----I seem to be going off on a tangent, but I'll finish it.
|
|||
|
Soon, how soon(who knows) there will be enough people dependent on the
|
|||
|
gov't that there will be no reducing it. (Thomas Jefferson wrote that he
|
|||
|
felt there should be a revolution every 5 to 10 (Ithink) years. He knew
|
|||
|
what politicians were like.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 184. Tue 2-11-92 21:05 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Yo
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 185.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Is you still there?
|
|||
|
You didn't get your phone cut off too, did ya?
|
|||
|
Whats the story on the petition drive?
|
|||
|
Did it start without me?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 185. Thu 2-13-92 19:03 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Yo
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 184, 187, 190.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And BigBoy, and all...
|
|||
|
whew....sorry I been gone so long...I been out husslin' trying to take
|
|||
|
care of biz, pay the rent, etc...
|
|||
|
From what I hear, the petition should be in our hands in about 13 days...
|
|||
|
There were some things to be worked out in the Titling....Natalie the Nazi
|
|||
|
wanted to use the word "marijuana" in the title 3 or 4 times, but now it
|
|||
|
is
|
|||
|
reduced to one...hemp or cannabis is used the rest of the time....this
|
|||
|
only
|
|||
|
makes sense as 'marijuana' is a mexican slang expression made popular in
|
|||
|
this country by the Hearst Newspaper smear campaign of the '30s.
|
|||
|
...
|
|||
|
ALL PLEASE NOTE: Connie Barr-Rowe of the Rocky Mountain Hemp Network and
|
|||
|
HEMPware, etc will be interviewed by Gary Tessler of KNUS Friday morning
|
|||
|
at 8:00 O'Clock.....thats 710 on the AM dial....
|
|||
|
...and she tells me that Ole Gary is PRO-HEMP!
|
|||
|
...
|
|||
|
Foad...Paul "and now, the rest of the story" Harvey is Pro-Hemp? That's
|
|||
|
fantastic! Can you recall a little about what he said? I'll check around
|
|||
|
with my contacts in the broadcast biz and see if we can get a recording of
|
|||
|
the broadcast...it'll make a great addition to the 470-1100 hempline!
|
|||
|
Let's see....so far we have Hugh Downs, Paul Harvey, Willie Nelson, etc.
|
|||
|
Where the hell is Jerry Garcia?!?!
|
|||
|
Gotta Run.....later
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 187. Fri 2-14-92 16:13 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Spaced out
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 185.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I saw Frank at Auraria last wensday, he had a booth set up, and he told me
|
|||
|
about Connie being on the radio. I, of course, spaced it out. It was
|
|||
|
right when I was driving to school too.
|
|||
|
As for Paul Harvey, I will have to look back at my message. I typed it
|
|||
|
just momments after the broadcast.
|
|||
|
Anyway, I'm sure somebody will have taped Connie's interview, I'll catch
|
|||
|
it from them.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 189. Sat 2-15-92 15:05 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Adam Selene
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Sector R
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Warning! Warning! Containment has broken down in Sector R. Repeat,
|
|||
|
containment has broken down in Sector R. I have jury-rigged this link, in
|
|||
|
hopes that you will get this message. Can't hold out much longer. Send
|
|||
|
ammo and hemp cakes. Repeat, send ammo and hemp cakes. I will advise as
|
|||
|
soon as situation becomes clear. Also tell the others that I have
|
|||
|
important information regarding
|
|||
|
C
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 190. Sat 2-15-92 22:22 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Spike
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: HEMP/DIR
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 185, 192, 197.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hey this is what I always wanted a place to talk about mt second favorite
|
|||
|
subject in the world. Anyway I'm new to the board and thought this was a
|
|||
|
really great idea
|
|||
|
I'm here stationed in the Air Force which means I can't participate in my
|
|||
|
favorite part of the Hemp movement but I would like to lend my support any
|
|||
|
way I could to help my buddies in the "WORLD". I'm originally from Oregon
|
|||
|
where they say pot is the #2 cash crop in the state and I think I can
|
|||
|
vouch for that. Well if there is anything I can do or if there is some way
|
|||
|
I can help just leave me a message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 192. Mon 2-17-92 12:44 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Spike
|
|||
|
Subject: [DHemp and the Military
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 190, 193.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
| I'm here stationed in the Air Force which means I can't participate in my
|
|||
|
| favorite part of the Hemp movement but I would like to lend my support any
|
|||
|
| way I could to help my buddies in the "WORLD". I'm originally from Oregon
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Actualy, the Military has always been one of the biggest hemp consumers.
|
|||
|
In fact our nations #1 war hero (the big Bush-man) owes his life to hemp.
|
|||
|
Both times he had to bail out of his plane, he floated safely to earth on
|
|||
|
a parachute made out of hemp. In fact, note just the chute, but the cords,
|
|||
|
and pack were also hemp.
|
|||
|
The time his plane caught fire on the flight deck, the hoses that put him
|
|||
|
and his plane out were made of hemp.
|
|||
|
The uniform that kept his equipment from getting shot off, was made out of
|
|||
|
hemp.
|
|||
|
There is a Propaganda film from WWII called "Hemp For Victory". The war
|
|||
|
department tried to claim that they never made any such film, but they
|
|||
|
were, of course, lieing. It's aimed at farmers, telling them how
|
|||
|
inportant it was to grow hemp (Note: they didn't call it Marajwan) for the
|
|||
|
war effort. If you want to see it, just stop by "Hemp Wear etc..." on
|
|||
|
Wadsworth and Mississippi. They might have a copy for sale, or you can
|
|||
|
plug it in and watch it there.
|
|||
|
Also, I've been in your postion. You can support the movement, you just
|
|||
|
can't smoke it.
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 193. Mon 2-17-92 22:15 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Spike
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp Wear etc...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 192, 195.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tell me more about this Hemp Wear etc... store. You say on Wadsworth and
|
|||
|
Mississippi? I've seen several such item advertised in "High Times" are we
|
|||
|
talking about the same stuff here?
|
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|
|
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|
-SPIKE-
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 194. Tue 2-18-92 14:42
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From: M Man
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To: All
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Subject: PETITION DRIVE MEETING
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Hello fellow Hempsters!
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I want to let everyone know about an important meeting of B.H.I.P.
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which is coming up soon. On March 3 we will be having a petition
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information meeting. Folks from Denver will be coming up to talk about
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petition strategies and such. The estimate is that we need about 50
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people to effectively cover the Boulder area. If anyone is from the area
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I urge you to come down and get involved. It is going to be hard work but
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also fun! The group is filled with good people but we definitely need
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more. March 3 (Tuesday) at 7:00PM in UMC rm 157A (around the corner from
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Quiglys) on the Boulder CU campus. Hope to see some of you there.
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Also if you are not from the Boulder area you can still get involved in
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your area. Contact the Hemp Inititive Project 470-1100 ext 511.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 195. Tue 2-18-92 17:11 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Spike
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Subject: Hemp Wear etc...
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ALSO SEE: 193, 202.
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Pretty much the same stuff. Plus they get in bulk cloth, and make alot of
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custom stuff.
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They have a lot of information too.
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Right now they are starting to catch a bunch of _hit abought thier
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products. Guess the powers that be couldn't find a legal way to mess with
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them, so they are putting pressure on the shopping center owners.
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Anyway, they got hemp shirts, bags, flags, keychains, and hakey sacs.
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Plus if you want something made, they will make it for ya.
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Not a thing that your CO can say about it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 197. Wed 2-19-92 16:53 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Spike
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Subject: HEMP/DIR
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ALSO SEE: 190.
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Howdy, Spike...Welcome to the board....sorry it's taking me a little while
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to get around to saying HI, but things are a bit hectic for me of late...
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If you get a chance, visit HEMPware, etc, 1090 S Wadsworth, Unit D....lots
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of good products there....
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Yeah, the military seems to take a dim view of a wonderful plant which has
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helped us through several wars...and, as a former sailor during 'Nam, I
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can vouch that the military was the #1 importer of the herb during that
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period....ships would return from S E Asia loaded with TONS of the stuff.
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Gotta Run, see ya...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 198. Wed 2-19-92 16:59
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Petitioners!!!
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ALSO SEE: 199.
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A training class will be held for petitioners at HEMPware, etc 1090 S
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Wadsworth Unit D on Saturday, March 7 at 2 PM (thats 1400, Spike) to
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cover all the details of petitioning....if you can't make that date, just
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drop by the store, and Connie will train you individually.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 199. Wed 2-19-92 17:53 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Petitioners!!!
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ALSO SEE: 198.
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If anybody needs a ride to that class Saturday, leave me a message. We
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can ride over together.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 200. Wed 2-19-92 23:55
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From: Hempman
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To: You
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Subject: hemp etc.
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and HEY! don't forget to blaze down to HempWare Etc.! 1090 S. Wadsworth Blv
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d. Suite D, Lakewood, Co. 80232. (n.e. corner of mississippi & Wadsworth)
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in the Villa South Shopping Center.
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[i hope that's not overkill, ohwell]
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pretty much there are only 3 things left to do:
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1) register to vote
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2) sign THE petition
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3) collect signatures
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education is sometimes considered another goal, but is usually respected a
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s a constant, a given, a full-time job....
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i tell you,
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that in '92,
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i wanna wipe my _ss
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with grass! that's right, EVERY grade of paper with less
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than 10% the chemicals used in paper-making w/trees,,, even butt-rags!
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more excellent, WORLDWIDE, hemp talk on NYX 871-4824 (7 bits, even
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parity).
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 202. Sat 2-22-92 24:30 (RECV'D)
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From: Spike
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Fuck the CO!!!
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ALSO SEE: 195, 205.
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I really don't give a shit what amnyone says. Actually I try to get in to
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it with as many people who will argue the point with me. I bring my HIGH
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TIMES in every month hoping that someone will challenge my right to read
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the mag. So far no luck, but most of the time the guys kinda get off on
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it. especcially the last issue, " How to roll a Blunt" Fuck em all is my
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attitude. I would really like to stay in for 20 years and collect my
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retirement, but my greatest goal in life is to simply live in the Oregon
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country side and grow excellent bud and one day be a leader in the
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revolution that will happen eventually. At that time we will have
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complete rights to do what ever we want with our own bodies. I guess that
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is my biggest problem with society at this point, What right does anyone
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have to tell another what they can or cannot do with there own body.
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Anarchy is the only way!!!!!!
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-SPIKE-
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 204. Sat 2-22-92 13:39
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Hittin' the Fan....
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Come one, come all ....Monday, February 24 at HEMPware, etc. 1090 S
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Wadsworth, Unit D....Help Connie protest....her Store landlord wants to
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kick HEMPware out of the mall because she's convinced that hemp is an
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illegal substance (meaning shirts, oil, seed cake, etc.)
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Media will be on hand...C'mon down!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 205. Sun 2-23-92 14:02 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Spike
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Subject: Fuck the CO!!!
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ALSO SEE: 202.
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Shit, when I was in, I got nailed for having drug Paraphernalia in my
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desk. When I finaly got someone to tell me what the hell they were
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talking about, I found out they were talking about my "Freak Brothers"
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comics.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 206. Sun 2-23-92 21:17
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From: Hempman
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To: you
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Subject: Hemp anyone?
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okay, here's something for those late nighters (or early morningers)!
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KOA everyday has public talk radio shows....
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mon-fri 12am-5am
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sun 3:30am-4am
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the weekdays is your basic whatever-everyone-wants-to-talk-about program,
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and the topic follows the direction of each successive caller (unless
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ofcourse, the next caller returns the topic to HEMP!!).
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sunday is, i think, 'hit or miss', you have maybe 15 sec. to say anything
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you want and you can call as many times as you like as long as you keep
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getting through you can keep listing off statistics or whatever you want,
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even plugs for hempware, hemp hotline, petition classes, rallies, etc....
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.
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these koa shows, i hear, are broadcast to about 38 states.
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THE #, 623-8585!!!
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i called during the Persian "War", and said we didn't need it, what we NEED
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ED to do was to relegalize, got only positive comebacks from around the
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country!!!
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i'll be calling tonight.
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for the daytimers, KOOL 105 is doing something called T.I.T.T.S. (Taking i
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It To The Streets).
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the way this one works is that the public calls and leaves a message
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about their topic, the station tallies topic interest and then broadcastss
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the winning topic, listeners can now call in and voice their opinion on
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the topic, the station will then broadcast groups of opinions between
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songs.
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i recommend.....oh maybe.....HEMP!!!! yeah, everyone
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call in hemp everyday!
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also, i hear that the dj's on KOA are pro, and you would have good luck se
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tting up an interview with them!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 207. Sun 2-23-92 21:59
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From: Hempman
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To: kindbud
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Subject: new world order
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in the misc. text file section, i have uploadedd some new world order zips
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, containing some 40 or 50 files about this new world order that connie
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has been freaked out about by that weird dude in colo. sprgs. when she had
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a booth down there last weekend.
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she asked me to find out about it and this is all i've heard about it,
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so i was wondering if you had a printer to print them up for her and get
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it to her.....
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gotta go make some signs!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 208. Tue 2-25-92 12:44
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From: The Foad
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To: All
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Subject: KOA
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ALSO SEE: 209.
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Yesterday was a good day for the Hemp movement.
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Connie's store (HEMPwear etc..) got exposure on both radio and tv.
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What started out as a consumer call to Tom Martineo, turned in to a great
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education spot. That lead to getting the lead story on that evenings
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News.
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No mention of the movement or the initiative, but at least a 100,000 people
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who didn't know that hemp has more than one use, now know better.
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Initaly, Tom didn't think the whole thing was for real, so we got an
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education pack over to him, which he opened and talked about on the air.
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That led to a news story on Channel 4. The lead story included a
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interview with Connie, several good examples of hemp products, and footage
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from "Hemp for Victory" (1942 Pro-Hemp USDA film)
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Also, I just want to say thanx to all the people who showed up for the big
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rally monday morning.
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............
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NOT!!!!!!
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Comon people, get off your butts and help out. We can sit here and jerk
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each other off on the BBS all day, and come Novemer we will still be going
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to jail for lighing and enjoying the herb. O2 producing trees will still
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be cut down at the rate of thousands of acers a day to make paper. We
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will still be using millions of gallons of toxic chemicals to grow cotton.
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And millions of gallions of even more toxic pesticides trying to kill off
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the ditch weed growing around the country, and to kill off the people who
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minght try and smoke it. Glocoma(sp?) sufferers will still be faced with
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a choice of going blind, or breaking the law.
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If you want change, you got to make change happen. Making excuses makes
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nothing happen.
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So you say you don't know what you can do to help. Well, first get
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registered to vote. It's not hard, takes no more than ten minutes. Sign
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the damm petition, YES your one single signature will count, and YES you
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vote will matter. Telling yourself otherwise is just a lazy cop-out.
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Call Connie at 935-6410, ask her what you can do. The poor woman is
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running herself ragged trying to get YOU the right to use hemp, without
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getting sent to jail and having all you belongings stolen by the
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government.
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Write letters to your state legislators. Tell them that not only do you
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want the law changed, you don't want them circumventing the peoples will
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after we get it changed.
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BUY and USE hemp products. I know they are more expensive, but every
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person wearing a hamp shirt, or using hemp flour, or any other hemp
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product is living, walking, indisputable proof that hemp is a better way.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 209. Tue 2-25-92 21:00 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: HEAR!HEAR!FOAD!
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ALSO SEE: 208, 241.
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I have more and more respect and admiration for Connie everyday! And she's
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really learning how to use the media....and GOD! how NICE the media is
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being to us! You couldn't BUY the kind of exposure she got yesterday...
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Martino's show is a BIG deal....lot's of people who would not ordinarily
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be exposed to hemp-truths got an earfull yesterday!
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But the Channel Four news at 10 PM!...I think they are the #1 news show
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in that time slot....I don't have any firm numbers, but I know that
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channel two's little piss-ant newscast at 9:30 gets 800,000! Last night
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at 10 PM, thanx to cable, Connie and Hemp were seen by close to Two
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Million people!!!!!(including Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, and ALL of
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Colorado!)
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And Hempman is right on the mark, too....let's all start calling the
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radio talk shows....when folks get the truth about hemp, it CHANGES
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them...and we are basically in a battle for people's minds. Gary Tessler
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will be resuming his talk show on KDEN 1470 AM...last week on KNUS, he
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made is clear that he is PRO-HEMP!....and he hadn't even read the EMPEROR
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at that point in time....he has since received his very own copy...
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Jack Herer is right....Colorado has the best chance of any state to
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legalize the bud in 1992! We can actually pull this off...the "opposition"
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just is NOT THERE! And the media is HELPING us....
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We absolutely MUST NOT f**k up this opportunity.
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HEMP FOR VICTORY!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 212. Fri 2-28-92 21:08
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Petition time!
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Time to put or shut up....time to get out and hit the bricks with our
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petition. To find out how to become a petitioner, call 470-1100 and punch
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in ext 555...free classes are being held in YOUR area. THis can really
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happen!...Colorado will become the first state to completely re-legalize/
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re-commercial this useful plant in the last 50+ years.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 213. Tue 3-03-92 18:41
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From: The Foad
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To: All
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Subject: Day one and counting
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ALSO SEE: 214, 215.
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Well, yesterday was the first day in the trenches. I must say it was
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interesting. I ended up skipping my classes and going after signatures.
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After six hours I had eighty seven names. Out of all the people I talked
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to, only three were negative.
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Shame I'm married. I found myself with more than one opportunity to
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strike up a really deep conversation with a really hot looking woman.
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Anyway, if the response that I got was any indication of what we face come
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November, we got it in.
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That is if we can get some more people up off their butts, and hit the
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pavement.
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One sour note.
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When you go out, be sure to wear a hat. (They will be getting hemp ball
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caps at HEMPwear etc.. next week) I once again got reminded that I'm a
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balding kind of guy. I burned the living -hit out of my bald spot.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 214. Wed 3-04-92 7:45 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Day one and counting
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ALSO SEE: 213.
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What area did you hit, Foad? Was it around Auraria? I am coming down off
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my mountain hideaway on Thurs to collect petitions....after testifying
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at the hearing on Connie's behalf. Looking forward to it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 215. Wed 3-04-92 7:53 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Day one and counting
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ALSO SEE: 213.
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P.S.
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Yeah. Encountering 3 negative people all day is about what I've
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experienced when going public. The opposition is NOT THERE. People know
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this country has a lot of problems, and pot is not on the list. We are
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going to re-commercialize cannabis hemp in Colorado this year, and the
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anti-pot people are going to be sitting around wondering what the hell
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happened!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 216. Wed 3-04-92 9:35
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From: Big Boy
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To: All
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Subject: You finally got in print!
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ALSO SEE: 217.
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Monday Mar. 2, 1992, Denver Post, 1B,2B: "Pro-hemp petitioners hit
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streets. Supporters hope to get issue on Nov. ballot." Good job.
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Reading the article, I can see yuse guys will have no trouble getting the
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signatures needed to get on the ballot from campus canvasers alone, but
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then after that it's a whole different ballgame, because the fatcats that
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come out against you will manipulate public opinion by calling you various
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labels, and you ain't financed well enough to get in the same media and
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call them names back...then there's them outright lies Nyuk Nyuk!
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Still, if you can get your word out grassroots style then the big papers
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and TV might not be able to manipulate opinion against you in the week
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before the election like the fatcats want. I recommend that your
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petitioners give out plenty of informative literature along the way, and
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you save up your pennies for at least one big half or full page ad in the 2
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Denver papers right before the election, the day before Nyuk Nyuk!
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If your initiative gets voted down, though, don't give up hope, just learn
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how to win next time...time is definitely on your side.
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BTW, I logged onto Realm of Lost Souls (680-7688), and Twin Towers
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(934-1297), and saw a NORML forum, but I forgot which board it was on Nyuk
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Nyuk!
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You might also be thinking of the good ole American compromise, such as an
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initiative to legalize hemp for commercial purposes that don't include the
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little flowers in it Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 217. Wed 3-04-92 16:56 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: You finally got in print!
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ALSO SEE: 216.
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Hemp is legal for commercial purposes. Only the flowers and leaves are
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ilegal. Kinda hard to grow the stalks without the leaves thou.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 218. Fri 3-06-92 24:02 (RECV'D)
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From: Hempman
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: few negative responses
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actually, i haven't had any negative responses when petitioning, if they'r
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e not positive responses (i.e. signatures, or those who run off to
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register), they are ignorant responses that are treated with some
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on-location education which produces one of the first two!
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always have some sorta flyer advertising hempware and/or the hemp
|
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hotline, this is intensely quick and informative for them to find out
|
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|
EVERYTHING that is happening (when, where, how, why, which, etc...),
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and if anyone has a roomy vehicle (a van?), consider scheduling rides to t
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he DMV for registerees, maybe ask for a buck from ea. person, i've asked
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those who need rides and they usually say HECK I'LL GIVE YOU $1 EACH WAY!
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well, cruising around at work i found that repeteetive calls to radio stat
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ions does pay off! (educational harrassment?) after numerous calls to KRFX,
|
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the FOXX (103.5) has broken down into plugging the store, petition, and
|
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hotline...they even say "for more information, call us at the foxx"!!!
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keep it up all!
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petition EVERYWHERE! cafes, restaraunts, theaters, campuses,
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door-to-door neighborhoods/apartment complexes, libraries, concerts, DMV's,
|
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etc...........the greatness of petitioning is that it can be done 24HRS. A
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DAY!
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relegalization by realization that it's the pollution solution!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 219. Fri 3-06-92 21:55
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From: Adam Selene
|
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To: All
|
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Subject: Wyoming
|
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ALSO SEE: 221, 222.
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From the ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS..."A measure acknowledging marijuana has
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medicinal uses was killed Tuesday in a Wyoming Senate committee by
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senators believing it would send the 'wrong message.'" It doesn't specify
|
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|
what the "wrong message' is; infer your own.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 220. Sat 3-07-92 21:57
|
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From: Mongo Stack
|
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To: Skeeter Blades
|
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Subject: Turn 'em n Burn 'em
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 178.
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Amazing, but the evil THEY do not, in fact, know the law. If you read
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|
about the bust recently that was baited with tennis shoes, a friend of
|
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ours showed up with a copy of the bogus "award letter" (it was his
|
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brother's) and got busted for impersonation (felony)! This cats heinous
|
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|
crime was being one month late with his child support. Any how, our pal
|
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refused to give his driver's license, so the boys claimed they'd hold him
|
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|
forever and thirteen years after that! Our other pal, Sensai JM came with
|
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|
him, and the boys were going to bust him too, even though he wasn't on the
|
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|
list, but when they searched him found him wired for sound! The boys
|
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|
decided it would be in their best interest to let JM go, oddly
|
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|
enough....meanwhile, holding our pal "forever" turned out to be two days.
|
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|
The police report was a real hoot..."suspect cited legal decisions and
|
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|
threatened litigation...arrested for obstructing an officer..."blah blah
|
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|
blah. So those naughty statists become the victim of a Title 42 suit for
|
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|
$100,000 as of Tuesday.....har har! Turn 'em 'n' Burn 'em! Ciao.
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 221. Sun 3-08-92 1:58 (RECV'D)
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|
From: The Foad
|
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|
To: Adam Selene
|
|||
|
Subject: Wyoming
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 219.
|
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|
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|
Sounds good. Come January they can just drive down to Denver. That
|
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|
there Wyoming money spends just ducky down here.
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 222. Wed 3-11-92 13:04 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Adam Selene
|
|||
|
Subject: Wyoming
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 219.
|
|||
|
|
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|
The wrong message is:"Hey, we've been lying to you yokels for 53 years,
|
|||
|
and we'll keep doing so in order to keep our phoney-baloney jobs."
|
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|
|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 223. Wed 3-11-92 17:30
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: ASCII
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Does anybody have the text of the initiative in an ascii file?
|
|||
|
I got a couple of boards wanting it, an I don't want to type it all.
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 226. Fri 3-13-92 11:43
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
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|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: it's amazing...
|
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|
|
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|
If at all possible, try to talk to at least 4 people a day, and give them
|
|||
|
the truth about hemp...I bumped into a stranger over the weekend, and the
|
|||
|
first thing I asked was:"Are you a registered voter?" He said he was and
|
|||
|
I proceeded to lay the hemp info on him.....as I did, I saw the "light of
|
|||
|
knowledge" spark to life in his eyes....he called me yesterday and told me
|
|||
|
that he's now converted 26 people, including a religious family, and
|
|||
|
they're now on the hemp-bandwagon....this guy is fired up and will be a
|
|||
|
real asset to the movement...never pass up an opportunity to tell someone
|
|||
|
about the hemp initiative...you never know what you might be starting.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 227. Tue 3-17-92 3:08
|
|||
|
From: Cyberskunk Jones
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Aesop's Fable
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Swallow and the Other Birds (Aesop, 550 BC)
|
|||
|
It happened that a Countryman was sowing some hemp seeds in a field where
|
|||
|
a Swallow and some other birds were hopping about picking up their food.
|
|||
|
"Beware of that man," quoth the Swallow. "Why, what is he doing?" said
|
|||
|
the others. "That is the hemp seed he is sowing; be careful to pick up
|
|||
|
every one of the seeds, or else you will repent it." The birds paid no
|
|||
|
heed to the Swallow's words, and by the time the hemp grew up and was made
|
|||
|
into cord, and of the cord nets were made, and many a bird that had
|
|||
|
despised the Swallow's advice was caught in nets made out of that very
|
|||
|
hemp. "What did I tell you?" said the Swallow. DESTROY THE SEEDS OF
|
|||
|
EVIL, OR IT WILL GROW UP TO YOUR RUIN.
|
|||
|
--- Aesop
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 228. Tue 3-17-92 3:43 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Cyberskunk Jones
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp and CO2
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 131.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Burning methanol (in place of gasoline) emits one third the CO2 as does
|
|||
|
petroleum. Using hemp to make methanol is the best idea because of hemp's
|
|||
|
high yeild of cellulose, the basis of methanol fuel. Hemp seed oil, used
|
|||
|
in a Diesel motor, would have a different emission level, unknown to me.
|
|||
|
But methanol has one third the CO2 as does gasoline. Of course, methanol
|
|||
|
would be a transitional fuel moving toward hydrogen/solar, or some other
|
|||
|
low-impact renewable resource. Also, the argument for hemp takes on a
|
|||
|
greater importance in light of what some have called "Global Supercrisis."
|
|||
|
To some of us tree-huggers it's obvious, but there are a whole lot of
|
|||
|
problems in a whole lot of areas -- all coming together into a big threat
|
|||
|
to our continued survival as a civilization and perhaps as a species. The
|
|||
|
greenhouse effect, ozone/chlorine cycle, and toxic waste are three global
|
|||
|
aspects to this "Supercrisis." There are many more aspects, each as
|
|||
|
potentially devastating. Economics, politics, and social values are all
|
|||
|
bound up together in this Supercrisis; it's not just an "environmental"
|
|||
|
thing. The reason I'm hammering this point in is because HEMP, if used
|
|||
|
properly and used immediately, is capable of solving so many (if not all)
|
|||
|
of our problems. The figure quoted earlier, $500 Billion, may seem like
|
|||
|
an underestimate in a future socioeconomic system based on hemp to the
|
|||
|
extent to which our today is based on petroleum. This is not only
|
|||
|
possible, there are many of us who are starting to think it's imperative.
|
|||
|
ALSO: All the hemp feilds and ever-regenerating forests worldwide would
|
|||
|
act as CO2 "sinks," trapping vast quantities of CO2 in their lifespans.
|
|||
|
Also, the oceans would continue to contain plankton and other organisms
|
|||
|
which would continue to absorb CO2, instead of potentially depleting by
|
|||
|
orders of nagnitude because of the synergism of oceanwater toxicity,
|
|||
|
degenerating ozonosphere, and possible temperature changes. In order to
|
|||
|
stop the chlorine cycle and head off ozone destruction a century from now
|
|||
|
(one molecule of chlorine destroys 100,000 molecules of ozone in a hundred
|
|||
|
-year cycle) we need to stop using the stuff to make paper. In order to
|
|||
|
stop deforestation, one of the things we need to do is stop cutting down
|
|||
|
trees for paper products. Here, as well as everywhere else, hemp is the
|
|||
|
common-sense choice for saving the Earth.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 229. Tue 3-17-92 20:46
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Hunter Thompson Signs....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 230.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Last Saturday, March 14, Gonzo journalist Hunter Thompson signed the
|
|||
|
Hemp Initiative Petition in front of a large group he was addressing...he
|
|||
|
took a moment to explain the importance of the Hemp Initiative, and then
|
|||
|
cerimoniously added his signature.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 230. Tue 3-17-92 21:32 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Hunter Thompson Signs....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 229, 232.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Glad to hear it. I tried to get us inside, to set up a table in the lobby,
|
|||
|
in fact I did get us in, but two days before hand, I got a call telling
|
|||
|
me that they had changed their mind. I wasn't so much pissed as saddened.
|
|||
|
But I am glad that sombody got in. Although I'm kinda pissed it wasn't
|
|||
|
me. Gotta quit being so damm competitive about this.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 231. Thu 3-19-92 13:39 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Jeff Dehaven
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: ...umm, let me....uh....I.....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 39, 233.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I am responding to a VERY old message of yours, I am a new user on this
|
|||
|
board and didn't feel like reading All the way up to message 200 something
|
|||
|
without asking this- The information you have displayed on this sub is
|
|||
|
very informative- I am also pro legalization, and I was wondering if there
|
|||
|
is any way to get ahold of all this information that you have- is there
|
|||
|
some book or is it just an immense collection of studies? And I must say
|
|||
|
it is good to have someone with real facts on our side- keep up the good
|
|||
|
work, and I back ya 100%!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 232. Fri 3-20-92 7:12 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Hunter Thompson Signs....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 230, 235.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nothing wrong with being competitive about this....any one of us would
|
|||
|
have loved to get Hunter's signature....I hear there were at least five
|
|||
|
petitioners in the meeting.....just luck as to who got to him first...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 233. Fri 3-20-92 7:14 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Jeff Dehaven
|
|||
|
Subject: Welcome to the Board...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 231, 234.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
High, Jeff! The definitive book on the subject is "The Emperor Wears No
|
|||
|
Clothes," by Jack Herer....about 200 pages, half of which is footnotes/
|
|||
|
documentation....blows the lid off the marijuana conspiracy which is
|
|||
|
bigger than BCCI and the S & L scandal put together...the book is
|
|||
|
available at HEMPwear, etc, 1090 S Wadsworth, Unit D. This store has a lot
|
|||
|
of fine hemp products such as cloth and clothing, hemp-seed oil and
|
|||
|
hemp-seed cake, (including hemp-seed cake granola bars) and lots of
|
|||
|
printed info. HEMPware, etc is going to be moving soon to a new 4000 sq
|
|||
|
foot space near Alameda & Sheridan.....more info on this as it developes.
|
|||
|
THE EMPEROR is also available at The Tattered Cover bookstore....as of
|
|||
|
last night they only had one copy left...it sells fast. The Denver Public
|
|||
|
Library also has four copies, which are ALWAYS out....probably quite a
|
|||
|
waiting list,too.
|
|||
|
Also, call our FREE Hempline: 470-1100.....from a touch-tone phone...it's
|
|||
|
all recorded hemp information....ext 477 is a 10 minute recording of Hugh
|
|||
|
Downs' ABC 20/20 piece on hemp as the earth's number one producer of paper,
|
|||
|
fiber, fuel, food, medicine, etc....The Hempline also has info on how to
|
|||
|
register to vote, where to find a petition to sign, and how to become a
|
|||
|
petitioner. The opposition has yet to rear it's ugly head, and it's
|
|||
|
starting to look as if we have a real chance to re-commercialize hemp in
|
|||
|
Colorado THIS YEAR....A recent NewsCenter 4 poll showed 64% in favor at
|
|||
|
this time!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 235. Mon 3-23-92 15:33 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Hunter Thompson Signs....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 232, 238.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Actualy I took a friend to the "Shakedown Street" concert at the Buffalo
|
|||
|
Rose that night. The band invited me to come out and do some petitioning
|
|||
|
durring their show. It was really cool, got in without paying the cover
|
|||
|
and got almost a full packet of signatures. We just sat up front and the
|
|||
|
band would plug us every few songs.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 236. Mon 3-23-92 20:22
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: stray thoughts
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Since most of is would agree that cocaine is not a nice drug, and
|
|||
|
some of us might agree with the government that it should be against the
|
|||
|
law.....
|
|||
|
How come only cocaine is illegal, but not the rest of the Coco plant?
|
|||
|
After all, hemp is bad if you smoke it (supposedly), so the whole plant is
|
|||
|
illegal, including the hemp that was grown for commercial usee and had
|
|||
|
virtualy no smoakable parts.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 237. Mon 3-23-92 22:19 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Jeff Dehaven
|
|||
|
Subject: Hugh Downs
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 234, 240.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Yeah, that Hugh Downs piece is really powerful stuff for converting the
|
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unbeliever....give out the 470-1100 number to EVERYONE....write it on
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bathroom walls....yell it from the rooftops. See Ya...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 238. Mon 3-23-92 22:22 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Concerts! Yeah!
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ALSO SEE: 235.
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Outstanding info....I think we'll get a lot of help from bands in the
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area....Keep up the good work!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 239. Mon 3-23-92 22:23
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: D.A.R.E. lies...
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For all concerned parents who have kids who are being subjected to
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the lies and disinformation of the insidous D.A.R.E./Nazi machine, I have
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U/L'd DARE.TXT....it helps teach kids the TRUTH about hemp. I think it
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is well written and has a lot of info which they can understand.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 240. Wed 3-25-92 24:08 (RECV'D)
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From: Jeff Dehaven
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Hugh Downs
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ALSO SEE: 237.
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Yhea- Ive been posting it around and telling people I know to call it-
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its "converted" a few nonbelievers- the quest continues...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 241. Wed 3-25-92 24:11 (RECV'D)
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From: Jeff Dehaven
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: HEAR!HEAR!FOAD!
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ALSO SEE: 209, 243.
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Channel 4 is one of the top- and with Hemp publicity comes controversy,
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and with controversy comes National News- and hopefully if the National
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News gets it one day, then the REAL facts will have to be presented...
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But butting up against government bullshit and industries billions of
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dollars in no small task- but hopefully if at least colorado gets the
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thumbs up for legalization, other states will take a second look!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 242. Thu 3-26-92 24:58
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From: Hempman
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To: All
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Subject: movement stuff
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come all ye petitioners and kind rainbow brothers & sisters to the
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RAINBOW GATHERING BENEFIT at the
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MERCURY CAFE on
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APRIL 12 at
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7:00pm with
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SHAKEDOWN ST. & THE ROCK-0-FELLERS!
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also, hit the DENVER COLISEUM for the POW-WOW which happens all weekend lo
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ng (THIS weekend), and petition at CURRIGAN HALL for the Rocky Mtn.
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Homebuilders Assoc. Expo. (for layman signatures, you know: painters,
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construction, framers, drywallers, electricians....in other words pot
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smokers@!!!).
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at the kazy expo, we filled at least ten petitions (including the st pat
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rick's parade [but mostly the expo]), all you need to do is hit these
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events and it happens really smoothly like.
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i am finally back up, and will asap have an ascii of the petition, but
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for now, i will u/l a pic. "i grew hemp"!! dig it!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 243. Thu 3-26-92 8:26 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Jeff Dehaven
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Subject: Keep Crankin'
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ALSO SEE: 241, 246.
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We're about to start our blitz campaign of FAX'd newsreleases to ABC/CBS/
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NBC/CNN/MacNeil-Lehrer/Larry King, etc. Larry King is for across the board
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drug re-legalization, because it makes sense.
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Although the loyal opposition has been quiet, I have noticed that
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Partnership for a Drug Free America is concentrating on marijuana in their
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ads for this region. Fortunately, I don't think they realize that
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everyone's laughing at them.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 245. Thu 3-26-92 8:33
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Annecdote....
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The following inspirational story was told to me by The Foad....I'll try
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to get it right as I relate it here:
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After the St. Patty's Day Parade, an elderly Jewish gentleman went to
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HEMPware, etc.,....He'd previously been "anti-drug", but at the parade he
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was shaken by a sight: Black-shirted D.A.R.E. kids marching is strict
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formation being "directed" by a rather harsh woman with a bull-horn...
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he said that the sight reminded him so much of Germany in the '30s that he
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did a complete about face. HE SIGNED THE PETITION!
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...
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This thing is bigger than I'd thought it would ever be. Wing-tipped
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conservative business-persons are coming out of the cannabis closet to
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offer office space, advertising space, financial support, etc.
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MJ prohibition is gonna go, and it's gonna go BIGTIME.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 246. Fri 3-27-92 21:44 (RECV'D)
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From: Jeff Dehaven
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Keep Crankin'
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ALSO SEE: 243, 251.
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Good plan- Are the Fax's going to be facts and information for
|
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legalization or just how far colorado is doing so far, or both?
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 247. Fri 3-27-92 21:48 (RECV'D)
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From: Jeff Dehaven
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To: The Foad
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Subject: HEy!
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Just thought I'd drop a note saying Good luck with more signee's and I'll
|
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hopefully see ya down at CCD again. Ive told a few people about it and
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they're ready to sign!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 248. Sat 3-28-92 14:16
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From: Dwarfo Suedomsa
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To: Whoever
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
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|
ALSO SEE: 249, 253.
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Got a question. If all hemp products are illegal haow can that hemp store
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|
sell the clothes and food and such? Also, while I c am against legalizati
|
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|
on you people seem to be doing a bang up job. Keep up the good work.
|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 249. Sun 3-29-92 11:30 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
|
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|
To: Dwarfo Suedomsa
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 248, 250.
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|
To really over-simplfy and ultra-nutshell an answer to your question....
|
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|
It is only illegal to possess the female buds and leaves. It is illegal
|
|||
|
to grow the plant in this country. But if the plant is grown and made
|
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|
into cloth/paper elswhere and then imported, then it's okay.
|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 250. Sun 3-29-92 21:26 (RECV'D)
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|
From: Dwarfo Suedomsa
|
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|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 249, 254.
|
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|
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|
Thank you. Very consise.
|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 251. Tue 3-31-92 7:03 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
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|
To: Jeff Dehaven
|
|||
|
Subject: fax's
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 246.
|
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|
|
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|
They'll be both, and anything else that we can put together to get press.
|
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|
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|
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 252. Tue 3-31-92 7:05
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|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Heard through the hempvine...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 255, 257.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...that in addition to France, Spain, Denmark, Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia,
|
|||
|
China, and Tazmania, we can now add Russia to our budding (no pun) list of
|
|||
|
hemp cultivating nations...I recall that last year, they met with John
|
|||
|
Bierenbach of the Institute for Hemp in St. Paul....they were attempting
|
|||
|
to RElearn the harvesting/pulping methods....in the last century, Russia
|
|||
|
produced 80% of the world's hemp...Napolean invaded Russia to cut off
|
|||
|
England's hemp supply, in an attempt to cripple her navy...would have
|
|||
|
worked too, if it weren't for good old American smugglers...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 253. Tue 3-31-92 7:11 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Dwarfo Suedomsa
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 248, 259.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
...I'd only add that the raw, sterilized seeds may be imported and
|
|||
|
rendered into oils/seed cake here...
|
|||
|
BTW, just curious.....why are you against re-legalization?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 254. Tue 3-31-92 17:27 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Dwarfo Suedomsa
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 250, 256, 260.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thank you, but not only is it very consise, it's very, very, very
|
|||
|
stupid.
|
|||
|
A few weeks ago, Germany struck down all it's drug laws.
|
|||
|
Now, there are a number of mills "retooling" thruough out Germany. Guess
|
|||
|
who is going to be exporting a whole shitload of eco-safe, high quality,
|
|||
|
and durable cloth and paper.
|
|||
|
Why the hell are we hanging on to these stupid outdated concepts that tell
|
|||
|
us it's unhealthy to smoke a dobbie, there for we have to drink dioxon in
|
|||
|
our water.
|
|||
|
To keep people from sucking on a bong, we have cut down 2/3 of all the
|
|||
|
forests in the world.
|
|||
|
Because somebody might get high for a few minutes, we destroy our
|
|||
|
enviorment drilling and trasporting oil, rather than let our farmers grow
|
|||
|
what we need, WHERE we need it.
|
|||
|
For fear that somebody, somewhere, might have a good time ( or even screw
|
|||
|
up their life, but hell, that's there right) we refuse Glocomia sufferers
|
|||
|
the ONLY thing proven to ease their suffering.
|
|||
|
We keep AIDS patients from a safe, natural, appetite restorer.
|
|||
|
We force cancer patients to endure even more suffering.
|
|||
|
All because of this bill of goods that we've been sold over the last 50
|
|||
|
years.
|
|||
|
Well, wake up people. YOU WERE LIED TO!!!
|
|||
|
Don't get angry at the people trying to tell you the truth, get really
|
|||
|
pissed at those who lied to you!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 255. Tue 3-31-92 17:43 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Heard through the hempvine...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 252, 258, 261.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Looks like it's time to get on the bandwagon before it runs us over.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Has anybody else noticed the virtual news black-out from Europe?
|
|||
|
COuld be that things are going better with the re-legalization that our
|
|||
|
keepers would like us to know.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 256. Wed 4-01-92 1:32 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Cyberskunk Jones
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 254, 262.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I liked that diatribe! I'm beginning to see hemp as a "keystone" element
|
|||
|
which is needed now to support the arch of civilization, threatening
|
|||
|
collapse. Hemp is Right, hemp is Moral, in the very highest sense, both
|
|||
|
utilitarian and deontological. Blah blah blah -- it's the right thing to
|
|||
|
do. Information is the only weapon hemp-o-philes have against all the
|
|||
|
money, rules, and enemies of The People who are anti-hemp for whatever
|
|||
|
reasons. Information: education, Truth-telling, ready facts, and just the
|
|||
|
whole rap what gives the Hemp Movement power: but it must be scholarly
|
|||
|
information, as Jack Herer has presented, all mucho well-documented and
|
|||
|
readily available. The media says: ". . . which they say can replace
|
|||
|
petroleum. . . " or somesuch bombastic claims. The facts are there, in
|
|||
|
theory and in big, round numbers, but it must be quantified, and if it
|
|||
|
really is, then folk need to see it point blank. This ever-increasing
|
|||
|
information has been spread all around the country heavily in the last
|
|||
|
couple of years, and it's obvious that this country is at least ambivalent
|
|||
|
on the issue, even though the third of Coloradoans who toke is like one
|
|||
|
third of the total population -- a political majority. This is strange,
|
|||
|
and I wonder what really holds people back who know friends who smoke, and
|
|||
|
tolerate it, but won't lift a pen to advocate what's right. This country
|
|||
|
was built on hemp, by people who had little else but hemp and horses to
|
|||
|
base a technology on before the age of steam. To reclaim hemp for America
|
|||
|
is not only one of the most patriotic things we can do, but also one of
|
|||
|
the very best (probably crucial) things we can do, right now, for our
|
|||
|
planet. People who don't support hemp, I belive, are sort of hurting the
|
|||
|
Earth all that much more, stealing from our great-grandchildren. Stealing
|
|||
|
their WORLD from them, and we laugh about it. My heart does not bleed,
|
|||
|
Sirs, but my mind is strong enough to discern what is right from
|
|||
|
inculturated balderdash.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 257. Wed 4-01-92 23:54 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Heard through the hempvine...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 252, 263.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From what we've heard from John about his meeting with the Russians, they
|
|||
|
have been growing it all along, and in fact, were talking about making
|
|||
|
"pressed hemp" furniture. They didn't know about paper, but were going
|
|||
|
back to get started on producing it ASAP.
|
|||
|
The latest news from the European Parliament is that they are against
|
|||
|
prohibition and in favor of hemp for industrial uses and that drug
|
|||
|
addiction should be treated as a medical problem. Sounds like they got it
|
|||
|
together, huh?
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 258. Thu 4-02-92 24:01 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Heard through the hempvine...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 255.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That's exactly what's going on. Europe recognizes that the drug war
|
|||
|
doesn't work and are talking alternatives. They want the farmers to
|
|||
|
benefit from the industrial uses of the plant. Why should they continnue
|
|||
|
to waste billions of dollars on enforcement when they could make billions
|
|||
|
if it were legal? Our Radical Letter was full of it... we also heard that
|
|||
|
Amsterdam is subsidizing hemp farmers to grow hemp for industrial
|
|||
|
purposes. Of course, the farmers discovered a way to process the
|
|||
|
"leftovers" into hash and it started a bunch of people complaining abut
|
|||
|
the government "subsidizing" drugs, but the govt said they would continue
|
|||
|
to subsidize hemp production and praised the farmers for being so
|
|||
|
resourceful with their recycling efforts. Neat huh?
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 261. Thu 4-02-92 8:55 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: Being a hermit....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 255, 267.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm a little out of touch with some news....what's going on in Germany/
|
|||
|
Europe??!!!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 262. Thu 4-02-92 8:58 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Cyberskunk Jones
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp products
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 256.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You're note was so truthful and beautiful that, verily, I wept.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 263. Thu 4-02-92 9:00 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: Heard through the hempvine...
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 257.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Blessed Be!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 267. Thu 4-02-92 19:04 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Being a hermit....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 261, 270.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It be legal over there.
|
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|
And they are getting ready to make things out of it.
|
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And then they are going to sell them to us.
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And then they are going to buy the World Trade Center.
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ect...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 268. Fri 4-03-92 2:32 (RECV'D)
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From: Dr Hemp
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: hemp oil
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ALSO SEE: 271.
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We got an interesting call today from an energy company in Southwest Texas
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wanting to know if they could get information on hemp oil as a viable
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energy source -- BTU ratings, consumption, etc. I sent them to John
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because they want some hemp oil to test. Also gave him an hour historical
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hemp lesson. He was a hemp virgin, so I hempnotized him. I gave him data
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from our hempstorian and am thoroughly convinced that he's not one of
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those hempophobic maramoonies. Time will tell.
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Law is blind. Justice will out.
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the dr.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 270. Fri 4-03-92 6:03 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Being a hermit....
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ALSO SEE: 267.
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damn.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 271. Fri 4-03-92 6:05 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Dr Hemp
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Subject: hemp oil
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ALSO SEE: 268, 272.
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Outstanding....Another source hemp-seed oil is here in Colorado....call
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470-1100 ext 711.
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I'm hempnotized!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 273. Sat 4-04-92 12:08
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From: Hempman
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To: Anyone Who Has A Clue
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Subject: hash bash 92
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ALSO SEE: 274.
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when is this most festive event?
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or did i miss it again?
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emergency!
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hemp me!
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hemp!
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he!
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!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 274. Sun 4-05-92 1:33 (RECV'D)
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From: Dr Hemp
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To: Hempman
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Subject: hash bash 92
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ALSO SEE: 273, 275.
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I think you missed it again. Was today... oh, well. for the latest info,
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Elvy got Freedom Fighter of the Year 1992. Was cold and rainy, but still
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had around 4000 people show up. The police were a real hassle,
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confiscating goods that activists had for sale. Vicki Linker even got
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hauled away with her goods. maybe you'll make it next year... they voted
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to have it the first weekend in May... we'll see...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 275. Sun 4-05-92 8:49 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Dr Hemp
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Subject: hash bash 92
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ALSO SEE: 274, 276, 277.
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We had nothing special planned for the 4th...our petition drive is in full
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swing, however....over 1,000 petitions in the field, with new petitioners
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being trained every day.....Glad to hear about Elvy.....and sorry to hear
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about the cops.....the goods you mentioned....I assume copies of "The
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Emperor...", hemp bracelets, etc?....Later.
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KB
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 281. Wed 4-08-92 9:30 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: The Foad
|
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|
Subject: Hemp Initiative Petition
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I never got it, so if you got one, u/l it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 282. Sat 4-11-92 12:08
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
|
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Subject: Petitions
|
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|
ALSO SEE: 283.
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The following Colorado Stores have the petition available for signing.
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Gallery NuVo
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1010 S Gaylord
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Denver
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Johnny's Newstand
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1555 Champa Street
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Denver
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A-Vitamin Store
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302 S. Broadway
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Denver
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A-Vitamin Store
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508 E. Colfax
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Denver
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Bill's Grocery Art
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3438 Downing
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Denver
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Mother's Cafe
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1333 Broadway, Suite 118
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Boulder
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Offbeat Records
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5692 S. Cedar
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Littleton
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C.J.'s Records
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4361 S. Broadway
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Englewood
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The Energy Store
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802 E. Fillmore
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Colo. Springs
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Summit Records
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208 N. Main Street
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Gunnison
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Tomboy Tattoos
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756 North Ave
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Grand Junction
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Butterhorn Bakery
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408 Main
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Frisco
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...
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|
You know what to do.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 285. Tue 4-14-92 3:51 (RECV'D)
|
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|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Atlanta Pot Festival
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 287.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Just got our report in tonight from Ohio NORML about the Atlanta
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|||
|
festival. Said it was reminiscent of the 60's and the press wrote it up
|
|||
|
that way, too... was a bigggg event... more than 50,000 people, he called
|
|||
|
it the biggest pot rally in the history of the country, and i can believe
|
|||
|
it. More and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of hemp and
|
|||
|
are willing to speak out... sometimes, when talking to politicians, it may
|
|||
|
seem like we're getting nowhere fast, but we are making a difference.
|
|||
|
We're getting lots of calls from local people wanting to know how to join
|
|||
|
our organization now. They're tired of the repressive laws and see more
|
|||
|
and more people getting hurt by them.
|
|||
|
Keep up the good work with your petitions... look forward to further
|
|||
|
progress reports soon.
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
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|
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|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
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|
Msg No: 286. Tue 4-14-92 7:48
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Communique from Dr. Hemp
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I got this post from Dr. Hemp of Maryland, so I'll share it with you all:
|
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|
|
|||
|
Heard from Casper today that they're almost ready to release the new "Hemp
|
|||
|
Chronicles", which is a revamping of "Time 4 Hemp." They are doing a
|
|||
|
special introductory offer of 1000 numbered tape/t-shirt combinations as
|
|||
|
collectors editions dedicated to the 400 activists that have helped them
|
|||
|
continue through it all. The introductory price is $26.95 + $2.90 S&H.
|
|||
|
After this time, all other tapes/t-shirts will be $31.95 + S&H, unless you
|
|||
|
are active at gettng them shown on cable access, in which case the price
|
|||
|
will remain the same. For people that only want either the t-shirt or a
|
|||
|
tape, the prices will be $17.76 for a t-shirt and $19.37 for a tape.
|
|||
|
Prices look familiar??? If you want more info, you can call him direct at
|
|||
|
1-800-882-3317. He wants as many people as possible to get the word.. the
|
|||
|
tapes go out to activists on May 8th and to the general public on May
|
|||
|
20th. I don't know if you can put this up on the board, which is why I'm
|
|||
|
leaving the message here for ya... I leave it to your discretion, but if
|
|||
|
you could pass it along, would be gratefully appreciated.
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 290. Wed 4-22-92 22:44
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: BIG Hemp Rally
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 291, 314.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This Friday, April 24, we are having a Major Hemp rally. There will be
|
|||
|
music, speakers, vendors, product demonstrations, and a BAKE SALE of
|
|||
|
yummies made from HEMP. (Had to fight like hell to pull that off)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It will be on the Auraria Campus, by the student union, from 1 to 5.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In addion to the speakers, we will be alowing a generous amount ov
|
|||
|
open-mic time. That is when ANYBODY may get up and speak, be they for or
|
|||
|
against Hemp RE-Legalization.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you think that you know all there is to know about Hemp, and there is
|
|||
|
no more you can learn, you are wrong.
|
|||
|
If you think you can't make a difference in this movement, you are right!
|
|||
|
You have to want, and belive that you can make a difference, in order to
|
|||
|
be able to make a change.
|
|||
|
I'm not taking the namby pamby aproach any more (it has been pointed out
|
|||
|
to me that I never have). I am sick of all the loser jerk-offs out there
|
|||
|
that are too lazy or (this really pisses me off) too scared to stand up and
|
|||
|
be counted.
|
|||
|
And to be real frank, it chaffes my butt that the lazy and scared are
|
|||
|
going to benifit as much or even more than the ones of us who are busting
|
|||
|
our butts. Were it up to me, they would some how be writen out, But it's
|
|||
|
not, so I just have to live with it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That said, Show up at the DAMM RALLY! We need you, each and every one of
|
|||
|
you, to be there, show your support, look good for the media, and just
|
|||
|
have a good time.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Foad
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 292. Fri 4-24-92 2:22
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: bad news
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 294.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
we got word today from several sources that Kentucky has made all hemp
|
|||
|
products illegal. We have been trying to reach the CAN gang, but no one
|
|||
|
is answering their phone. We haven't been able to get in touch with
|
|||
|
Gatewood either. Wonder what he plans to do about Gatewoodstock... It's
|
|||
|
a real blow to the movement that a state can be so paranoid about a plant
|
|||
|
that it makes all the beneficial products illegal as well just so people
|
|||
|
aren't getting the "wrong message." How many more legislators will be
|
|||
|
convinced about this?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
We have personal experience of this, on a local level. Our oldest
|
|||
|
daughter, who was taken by the state a year and a half ago had all her
|
|||
|
hemp twine taken away, as well as the bracelets, necklace and anklet she
|
|||
|
had been given by her brothers and sisters. The social worker said it was
|
|||
|
because she "might get high" working with the twine, and it did have such
|
|||
|
a relaxing effect to sit around and braid bracelets... And of course, it
|
|||
|
had to be the effect of the "marijuana" she was working with, not the fact
|
|||
|
that braiding bracelets can be very relaxing. Comes with keeping your
|
|||
|
hands busy and your mind free to wander...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you hear any more about this, please let us know. thanks.
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 294. Fri 4-24-92 9:42 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: bad news
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 292, 296.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I gotta totaly disagree with you there my friend. It's GOOD NEWS.
|
|||
|
Everytime they do something like that, more people open their eyes. More
|
|||
|
poeple get fed up and decide that it is time to do something.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Besides, that there Kentucky money spends just fine here in Colorado.
|
|||
|
v
|
|||
|
The Foad
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 295. Fri 4-24-92 9:45
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Rocky Mount News
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sometime in the next three days I will have my letter opposing David Cox,
|
|||
|
the President of Colorado DARE officers, printed in the RMN.
|
|||
|
The moral is...
|
|||
|
You can get your Pro-Hemp Letters printed.
|
|||
|
You CAN be heard.
|
|||
|
If I am still here next week, you can, for the time being anyway, speak up
|
|||
|
without getting "Dissapeared."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Foad
|
|||
|
(Bradley Edison, for those of you that want to read my letter)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 297. Fri 4-24-92 18:38
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Kentucky
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
With Kentucky passing a law against hemp products, it means the only
|
|||
|
"paper" Kentuckyians will be allowed will be "pay per" view.
|
|||
|
The law makes the Kentucky Constitution (1890) the first document
|
|||
|
ruled illegal because of the paper it's written on!
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 298. Fri 4-24-92 18:39 (NO KILL)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Operation "Smokescreen"
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 299.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
DEA Operation "Smokescreen" came down in Indiana with a bang. Circle
|
|||
|
City Hydroponics was an undercover DEA operation selling growing
|
|||
|
equipment. They claim to have advertised in "High Times", which High
|
|||
|
Times says they did not do. The most recent information we have gotten is
|
|||
|
that there were 40 arrests in an operation that involved 400 Indiana
|
|||
|
police and 600 National Guard. It's being touted as the largest state
|
|||
|
police operation to date.
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 299. Sat 4-25-92 5:19 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: Operation "Smokescreen"
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 298, 300.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
National Guard.......Hmmmmmmm......
|
|||
|
I could have sworn that the US Constitution forbids the use of the
|
|||
|
military in civilian law inforcement.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Foad
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 301. Sat 4-25-92 21:05
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: War?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Have you guys heard about the DEA surveillance plane that was shot upon by
|
|||
|
a Peruvian military plane? Our PBS station has been broadcasting reports
|
|||
|
for the last couple hours. Seems now that one crewman is missing and two
|
|||
|
were injured. It was flying "off course" and did not respond with radioed
|
|||
|
by the Peruvian planes. Very interesting.....
|
|||
|
the dr
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 313. Fri 5-01-92 3:32
|
|||
|
From: Hempman
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: petitioning
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 315.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
get out to the rodney king rallies for to shout & tout HEMP!!!
|
|||
|
make signs, take flyers, and break out your petitions.
|
|||
|
it'sa free rally spot.
|
|||
|
i here and now declare that all rodney king rallies become HEMP
|
|||
|
GATHERINGS.
|
|||
|
riots are breaking out all over the country, the problem is that the
|
|||
|
people are fighting the people! we need to remind the people that the
|
|||
|
government is the enemy! NOT THE PEOPLE!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
leave to the potsmokers to straighten shit out.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
notice: abortion rallies result in violence!
|
|||
|
gay/lesbian rallies result in violence!
|
|||
|
race rallies result in violence!
|
|||
|
war rallies result in violence!
|
|||
|
MARIJUANA rallies result in PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
potheads don't riot...........they smokem' peace pipe and be mellow!
|
|||
|
groove in the sun and be happy!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
hmmmm, if only the national guard dusted L.A. with pot smoke!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
oddly enough nobody had blown up gov't. buildings (nat'l., state, county,
|
|||
|
city,,,).
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
i heard that this shit has spread into Van Nuys, how's Jack (H.E.M.P.)
|
|||
|
hanging with it?
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
rodney king verdict...................the hair that broke the camel's
|
|||
|
back!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
tomorrow at your state capitol/university.....GO PETITION!!!!!!!!!!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
later daze!
|
|||
|
|
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|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 315. Tue 5-05-92 15:41 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Hempman
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Subject: petitioning
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ALSO SEE: 313.
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We've been in touch with friends in LA and the word we're getting back
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is that the whole thing was staged. One fireman reported that big men in
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big cars with big guns stopped by a fire and told him to "let it burn."
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We've also noticed that the arsonists that were caught by the firemen were
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white, not black. The word is that it was all planned and further proof
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is that Darryl Gates predicted it before the verdict even came in. Need
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more?
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the dr.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 316. Tue 5-05-92 15:43 (RECV'D)
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From: Dr Hemp
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To: The Foad
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Subject: JFK and Bush
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we came across an article in The Zenger that talked about Cassalero, the
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reporter that was "suicided" in West Virginia last year when he was
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investigating the Justice Department in the INSLAW affair. The things
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that he came up with could have pointed more than one finger at Bush.
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They even talk about an FBI document that proves Bush was involved with
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the CIA as long ago as 1963 with the Kennedy assassination coverup. Both
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aBush and Nixon were in Dallas that day! check for the file. I'm u/l it
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today, so it just depends on when big boy gets it posted. you might like
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what you read. If so, it also tells you where you can subscribe to the
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Zenger if you don't already.
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the dr.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 317. Sun 5-10-92 13:21 (RECV'D)
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From: Love Muffins
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To: The Foad
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Subject: D.A.R.E.
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ALSO SEE: 8, 318.
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I would agree that children won't turn their parents in on drug charges
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(minor ones) unless persuaded. However, I don't think it's only Officer
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Friendly from the DARE program. When you and I were growing up, we didn't
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have the same programs, etc. By the time a kid is 5 or 6, he or she knows
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that smoking, drinking and drugs are wrong. It's not because of DARE ...
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they might not even be in school yet. Have you sat down and watched
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Saturday morning cartoons lately? There are commercials every half hour
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telling kids not to do drugs, etc.
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I think those commercials are ok. It's the programs that use cartoon
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spokesmen that I oppose. MacGruff for instance. MacGruff tells kids that
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they should turn in anyone they see doing or selling drugs. Normally I
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would say that's great ... if they're smoking or selling in public then
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they're stupid enough to be caught! However, MacGruff doesn't tell kids
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that there's a stopping line.
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I don't know if it can be done. How do you tell a 6-year-old that he
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should turn in people smoking pot unless it's a family member? Can you?
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 318. Tue 5-12-92 14:36 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Love Muffins
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Subject: D.A.R.E.
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ALSO SEE: 317, 319.
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| I don't know if it can be done. How do you tell a 6-year-old that he
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| should turn in people smoking pot unless it's a family member? Can you?
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Easy. I tell my six year old that there is nothing wrong with an ADULT
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making a GROWNUP choice to smoke Hemp. So it dosen't matter if it's a
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family member or a next door neighbor, neither one should be turned into
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the State.
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The Foad
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 319. Tue 5-12-92 18:05 (RECV'D)
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From: Love Muffins
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To: The Foad
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|
Subject: D.A.R.E.
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|
ALSO SEE: 318, 320.
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I don't know how to quote ... but you said to tell the kid that there's
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noting wrong with an ADULT making a GROWNUP choice.
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I say ... OK! Good idea.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 320. Wed 5-13-92 15:42 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Love Muffins
|
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|
Subject: D.A.R.E.
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|
ALSO SEE: 319, 323.
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|
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| I don't know how to quote ... but you said to tell the kid that there's
|
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| noting wrong with an ADULT making a GROWNUP choice.
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| I say ... OK! Good idea.
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|
Hit return on a blank line, then at the menu, hit "R". It will ask you
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|
the message number you want to quote from. Took me a long time to figure
|
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|
it out. In fact, I think BB had to pop in and show me.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 321. Wed 5-13-92 21:22
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From: Dr Hemp
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To: All
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|
Subject: Georgie Porgy Pie in the Sky
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|
ALSO SEE: 322.
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|
Georgie Porgy
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|
Bushin' around
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|
Ruled the world and made them frown
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|
And when the Blacks came out to play,
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|
Georgie Porgy ran away.
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Georgie Bushy
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|
Foolin' around
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|
Started a war that made us frown
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|
Took the cash and took our hash
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|
Now it's time to start the Bash!
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|
Georgie Porgy
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Broccoli or die
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|
Food and life come from the sky
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|
Give us back our water and air
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|
Bury Gates and with him D.A.R.E.
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|
The life you live is not your own
|
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|
So if you can't fix it,
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|
Runaway home.
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|
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|
George Bush came to town today and his motorcade went by less than a
|
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|
block from our house. I tried to protest it with my hemp sign, but the
|
|||
|
cops made me move, so I sat on our front steps with the sign leaning up
|
|||
|
against the house where all the traffic that was rerouted could see it! He
|
|||
|
was here to visit a Hopkins health center and a local high school, both
|
|||
|
within 10 blocks of us. The health center set out a healthy feast for him,
|
|||
|
and lo and behold, they included broccoli on the menu.... et tu, George!
|
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|
the dr.
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|
|
|||
|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 322. Thu 5-14-92 13:36 (RECV'D)
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|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: Georgie Porgy Pie in the Sky
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 321, 324.
|
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|
|
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|
Keep fighting the good fight, Doc.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 332. Fri 6-05-92 7:00
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Hemp petition
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you haven't had a chance to sign the hemp petition, there will be
|
|||
|
plenty circulating at the People's Fair this weekend.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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|
Msg No: 335. Tue 6-16-92 4:13
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: Perot
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 336, 337.
|
|||
|
|
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|
Right now, we are waiting for a copy of the hemp proposal that Willie
|
|||
|
Nelson will be presenting to Perot within the next week or so. If Perot
|
|||
|
is the smart businessman that he's supposed to be, with what we've heard
|
|||
|
of Willie's proposal so far, he won't be able to resist if only because of
|
|||
|
the greed factor. As soon as we get it, we'll get it posted. It will be
|
|||
|
interesting to see whether he will come out publicly in favor of
|
|||
|
legalization.
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 336. Tue 6-16-92 8:11 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: Perot
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 335, 338.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, we can all cross our fingers, but we shouldn't hold our
|
|||
|
breath...Perot designed the Texas drug war at the behest of their
|
|||
|
govenor...and in an interview he stated that, if elected, the Federal drug
|
|||
|
war would "turn ugly." It's already pretty ugly. Like a lot of folks, Ross
|
|||
|
sees some portions of the Bill of Rights as "inconvenient." However, as a
|
|||
|
smart business man, he ought to be able to see the economic potential of
|
|||
|
hemp. Keep us informed, and thanx for the info.
|
|||
|
BTW, Rainbow Gathering to be held at Four Corners real soon. Jack Herer
|
|||
|
should be there.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 337. Tue 6-16-92 9:45 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Big Boy
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: Perot
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 335, 339.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, don't get Perotnoid if he don't go for it Nyuk Nyuk!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 338. Tue 6-16-92 17:29 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: Perot
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 336.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Heard about it a few months ago and have had the info on our board in
|
|||
|
the rainbow area ever since. Will u/l a copy of the proposal as soon as
|
|||
|
we get it in. Have also heard that he will be hard on the urban areas and
|
|||
|
drugs, but if Willie can convince him the value of hemp as a natural
|
|||
|
resource is more advantageous than the cost of fighting the drug war and
|
|||
|
the crime it causes, then maybe we have a chance.
|
|||
|
Also just got in a copy today of the latest DEA decision not to
|
|||
|
reschedule marijuana as a drug... will u/l it as soon as I can get it
|
|||
|
typed up and on the board...
|
|||
|
the dr.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 339. Tue 6-16-92 17:31 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
To: Big Boy
|
|||
|
Subject: Perot
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 337.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
will continue to pray that there is some sense in his small head and it
|
|||
|
hasn't all flowed out his ears. hehehe!
|
|||
|
Peg
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 340. Mon 6-29-92 23:11 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Hempman
|
|||
|
To: Dr Hemp
|
|||
|
Subject: perot-noia!
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 341, 360.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
well, how did those mega-meg of files get through to you that i sent
|
|||
|
months ago?
|
|||
|
i was 1/2 an inch away from going on east coast dead tour, and
|
|||
|
would've hit your pad, or rang at least, but owhell!
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
now about this perot guy, and this other guy whose working on the hemp
|
|||
|
initiative in colo. and crashing at my pad for the while......ray cristl
|
|||
|
(oprah winfrey's next door neighbor, of the ever-so-infamous HEMPSTOCK
|
|||
|
1991!)....perot had a petition collecting rally here at the capitol, and
|
|||
|
ray was there with a sign "ROSS PEROT for HEMP///Jesus Saves!",,,ah but
|
|||
|
perot's men came down on the cops, who then came down on ray with the
|
|||
|
threat "if you raise that sign above your head, we're gonna arrest
|
|||
|
you!"... well ray stayed out of jail (false arrest by breach of 1st
|
|||
|
amendment rights) by waiting til the end of the rally and raising it with
|
|||
|
everyone else.
|
|||
|
anyway ray says "hi", and wants to know a little more about maine,
|
|||
|
"keep up the great work", and "god bless!" (not maine, maryland).
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
ah, for those who are petitioning in co., das says we can petition at
|
|||
|
stapelton airport this week,,,,contact him if you can, i have no # for
|
|||
|
him.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
also, Jack Herer is hitting THE GATHERING, and then will hemp us petition
|
|||
|
for a couple weeks or so i hear, i have been instructed to take 100
|
|||
|
petitions with me to get to jack (i'm leaving in the morn'), because jack
|
|||
|
will be doing a colorado hemp circuit (hop from town to town petitioning),
|
|||
|
and if so...i think i'll go.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
.
|
|||
|
great success! at red rocks for the ozzy concerts (2 nights) with 3 people
|
|||
|
each night we averaged 200 signatures/person, ended up with about 1000 sigs
|
|||
|
.!! we need more force, call 470-1100 or 722-9469@@@@@@@@@
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 341. Sat 7-04-92 20:37
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Hempman
|
|||
|
Subject: Jack....
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 340.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Any info on Jack's schedule is much appreciated.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 342. Mon 7-06-92 13:27
|
|||
|
From: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 343, 344.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, friends, I've gotta go to court tomorrow because I got caught
|
|||
|
pullin' a tube (the cop was peekin' in the window at the time), and I
|
|||
|
guess they're gonna give me some kind of hassle, but all I've got to say
|
|||
|
is that I've broken no law in the eyes of God, and the judge and the
|
|||
|
president and all the wicked representatives of the State can put that in
|
|||
|
their pipes and smoke it.
|
|||
|
So There.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 343. Mon 7-06-92 16:14 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: The Foad
|
|||
|
To: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 342, 345.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From what I understand, we got enough to get it on the ballot. So if you
|
|||
|
go in, take comfort that you should be out come Jan first. That is if
|
|||
|
Governor Roy (I KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU) Rommer dosen't find a way to
|
|||
|
kill the will of the people.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 344. Tue 7-07-92 19:08 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 342, 346.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Give 'em Hell, Phineas!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 345. Wed 7-08-92 14:28 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
To: The Foad
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 343.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thanx for the kind words, brother Foad. I'm pleased to report that I
|
|||
|
didn't go in - I sweet-talked the DA and she let me off real easy.
|
|||
|
Phineas
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 346. Wed 7-08-92 14:30 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
To: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 344, 347.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thanx, Kind Bud. I didn't give 'em Hell in court 'cuz I didn't have to,
|
|||
|
(they put me in the same group with some really dangerous folks who had
|
|||
|
got caught fishin' without a license), but neither am I going to let The
|
|||
|
Man intimidate me - a man has to reach a certain level of maturity where
|
|||
|
he can decide what's right and wrong, and follow his own heart, rather
|
|||
|
than let the state dictate his actions. I don't go for this fascist
|
|||
|
'Everything not compulsory is forbidden' crap, and I don't fall for the
|
|||
|
mass-media brainwash routine. I prefer to wash my own brain, thank you,
|
|||
|
and I'd rather wash it in a tub of warm water than spray it with chemicals
|
|||
|
from DuPont.
|
|||
|
- Phineas
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 347. Mon 7-20-92 12:11 (RECV'D)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: Phineas Faust
|
|||
|
Subject: I'm not ashamed..
|
|||
|
ALSO SEE: 346.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm glad things worked out for ya in court....
|
|||
|
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond to you, but I've been up to my neck
|
|||
|
in busy these days...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
|
|||
|
Msg No: 348. Mon 7-27-92 10:28 (NO KILL)
|
|||
|
From: Kind Bud
|
|||
|
To: All
|
|||
|
Subject: It's time...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's time to turn in all petitions.....right now! Even if you are holding
|
|||
|
on to an incomplete petition, turn it in.....let's put Natalie to work!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 349. Tue 7-28-92 14:14
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From: Phineas Faust
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To: All Heads
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Subject: Jack Herer
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Did anybody go see Jack Herer in Boulder yesterday? He was (according
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to reports) at the Wild Oats Vegetarian Market (AKA Crystal Market) on
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Pearl Street between about 11 am and 1 pm. I didn't get off work until
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almost one, so by the time I arrived on the scene he was gone. There
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were a few deadicated heads passing the petition around, and they said
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that they had been on tour with Jack, and that he was supposed to be back
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on the mall later that afternoon, so I went away and came back later, but
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there was still no sign of the dude by 7:30. I guess he just lost track
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of time.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 350. Sun 8-09-92 22:13
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 351.
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Latest word is that we got 60,000 signatures in to Natalie...
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More as word developes...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 351. Mon 8-10-92 18:00 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 350, 352.
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Hot DAMM!!
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I had a good feeling. We were short when I left the rally; but there was
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a steady stream of people showing up to turn in names.
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If it gets on the ballot, I'm sure we'll make it.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 352. Mon 8-10-92 23:46 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 351.
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Yessir! Let's Keep A Good Thought!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 353. Tue 8-11-92 23:28
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From: Phineas Faust
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To: All
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 354.
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Hooray! When the law passes I'm gonna light up a fat spleefand dance a
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jig on the courthouse lawn!
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Keepin' me fingers crossed,
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Phineas
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 354. Fri 8-14-92 8:29 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Phineas Faust
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 353, 355.
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Absolutely....
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We should know by August 24th whether we have enough "good" signatures to
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get on the November ballot...
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 355. Fri 8-14-92 9:26 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 354, 356.
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| Absolutely....
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| We should know by August 24th whether we have enough "good" signatures to
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| get on the November ballot...
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At that time we will get a listing of ALL the sigs, and a report on each
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one, saying if it is good, and if not, why.
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OR!!!!!!!
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if they don't have them counted by then, it goes on to the ballot by
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default.
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The moral here.....
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DON'T be calling up the Secretary of State's office and bugging them.
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These people seem to be somewhat sympathetic to our cause. But the people
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who have been calling up demanding to observe the count are pissing them
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off.
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If they do shaft us, we have plenty of recourse, and plenty of time to
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take it.
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In the mean time, if they get down to two petitions, and they only got
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time to count one; and certain ASSHOLES continue to call a scream threats
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and obscenities at them, which one do you thing will get passed onto the
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ballot, and which one do you think will be gone over with a fine tooth
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comb?
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BTW, as I am sure you know, I am not refering to you. The message just
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got addressd to you cause it's a "responce".
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See ya tomarrow.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 356. Sat 8-15-92 8:59 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: The Foad
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Subject: The Petition
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ALSO SEE: 355.
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I agree 100%, even though I was unaware that folks were calling up and
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making a pain-in-the-ass of themselves....
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Out of sight, Out of mind...
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later.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 357. Mon 8-17-92 8:09
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Just say know...
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ALSO SEE: 358.
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Last week Boulder citizens successfully said NO to the War on Drugs...
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An employee of a Boulder sandwich shop, the YELLO SUB, was accused of
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mailing psilocybin mushrooms to a friend in Albany, NY....little did she
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know that her "friend" had been turned into a snitch by the feds....In a
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particularly ballsy move, the feds then decided to seize the assets of
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her EMPLOYER! However, due to media coverage and public outcry, the DEA
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back-peddled and returned the assets. These fascist pigs are just like
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cockroaches....turn the light on 'em, and they scurry away! On Saturday,
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the Boulder County Libertarians and the Boulder Hemp Initiative hosted an
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Eat-In at the Yello Sub to protest these bogus forfeiture laws....quite a
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crowd showed up, with speakers from all across the country. A shit-load of
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sandwiches were sold, hopefully enough to help cover the $5,000 legal fees
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spent by the owner in his battle to keep what was rightfully his to begin
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with.
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The tide is turning, and folks are simply tired of this unwinable war.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 358. Mon 8-17-92 10:55 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Just say know...
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ALSO SEE: 357.
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One of, if not the most major, tennent of the Quaker faith is witnessing.
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That's not witnessing in the sense that bible thumpers mean it. What the
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Quakers belive is that it is the duty and responsibility of all men (and
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women) to bear witness to evil. IT IS WRONG to turn away from evil, and
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let it hide.
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How strong of a truth that is was proved in Boulder last Saturday. Over a
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hundred people gathered simply to say "We see what you are doing, and you
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are not fooling anybody."
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Another sign of just how powerfull this is;
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Last week I, along with a number of other NORML activests, got a call from
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a gentleman who said he was head of a group called F.E.A.R. (stood for
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some kind of anti-seizure thing) and he tried to tell us that the owner of
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Yellow Sub was involved in drug traficing and money laundering, and that
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we would be incredibly remiss if we supported this victim of the DEA.
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Obviously, that is a pile of horse shit. Now I'm not saying this guy was
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an agent, but I would be happy to entertain any other theories that
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anybody might have as to this persons motives.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 359. Tue 8-18-92 17:57 (NO KILL)
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From: The Foad
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To: All
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Subject: School's open
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As all you parents know, school opens this week.
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And because of the hemp initiative the D.A.R.E. assult is going to be
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harder than ever.
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But there is good news!
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You don't have to let them get their hands on your kids. D.A.R.E. is an
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extracaricular (<- yes it is spelled wrong) activity, and they need your
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permision to brainwash your child.
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What? you say you didn't give any permision? Well, sorry, you have given
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"implied" permission when you enrolled them. The only way to revoke it is
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in writing.
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You can either type one up yourself, and have your lawyer check it over
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for loopholes, or you can dowload Foad's Handy Dandy
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Keep-Your=Mitts-Offa-My-Kids letter.
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Just fill in the blanks with basic info, and send three copies with each
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kid on the first day of school. One for the principal, one for the
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teacher, and one for the principal to sign and return.
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soon as the big guy puts it up it will be called "ANTIDARE.LTR". DL it,
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look it over, and protect your kids minds with it.
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If you don't, don't blame me when you get hauled off to prison cause your
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kids turned you in for anti government activity.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 360. Thu 8-20-92 21:28
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From: Dr Hemp
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To: Hempman
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Subject: perot-noia!
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ALSO SEE: 340.
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got your messages on our board great.. have them up and posted with the
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other meg of info that we have available...
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Things here in MD are going great! We got word the other day that the
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state legislature is talking about proposing a bill legalizing cultivation
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of marijuana for medicinal purposes when the new session starts in
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January. We look forward to hearing more about it as things progress.
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Right now, we're in the process of changing addresses. And when we say
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change, we mean change!! We're moving to Texas. As soon as we get set up
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there, we'll be logging back on with our new number. We plan to keep the
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board going as an archive for hempformation. Hopefully, we'll succeed.
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Keep up the good work in Colo and we look forward to hearing from ya again
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soon. You might be surprised at our new BBS.
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the dr.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 361. Sat 8-22-92 18:37
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From: Phineas Faust
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To: All Heads
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Subject: Where's mine?
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I was just reading in HT that according to the National Narcotics
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Intelligence Consumers Committee report (uh... that's the government,
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right?), 110 million pounds of marijuana is bought and sold in Amerika
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each year. If that's true, we're averaging about seven ounces of grass
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for every man, woman and child in the country. But the figures are even
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better when youu compare it to the government's claim that 20.5 million
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people smoke - that means that the average toker burns about 5.2 pounds
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each year. If that's true, I must be waaaaayyyyyy behind! So come on -
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who's hoarding those extra pounds?
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- Phineas
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 362. Mon 8-24-92 22:36
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From: Ganja King
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To: All
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Subject: Hemp For Victory
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There's a new Hemp BBS on the west coast... help get it off the ground!
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Call Hemp For Victory! Open 9 PM - 9 AM Pacific Time, 300-9600 BPS
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V32/42 bis... (619)/441-9949. All opinions welcome!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 363. Tue 8-25-92 6:32
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From: Kind Bud
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To: All
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Subject: Natalie....
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ALSO SEE: 364.
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a k a the Sec of State has disallowed a sufficient number of sigs to keep
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us off the ballot this year....the Hemp Initiative Board is discussing
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whether to challenge, as we are only about 3,000 short. I'll keep you
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posted....should have more info in a day or two....this is far from over.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 364. Wed 8-26-92 3:26 (RECV'D)
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From: Jesus Christ
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Natalie....
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ALSO SEE: 363, 365, 368, 373.
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| a k a the Sec of State has disallowed a sufficient number of sigs to keep
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| us off the ballot this year....the Hemp Initiative Board is discussing
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| whether to challenge, as we are only about 3,000 short. I'll keep you
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| posted....should have more info in a day or two....this is far from over.
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I just heard that the HEMP initiative failed (on KOA radio).
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Can't say that I'm sorry either. I'm not really too concerned about pot so
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much as the harder drugs. Legalization of pot (not MJ. Let's be honest
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people, fabric manufacture is NOT the "real" reason you want it
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legalized... =) isn't going to help combat the drug problem any.
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"Well it's our bodies right? Why can't we do drugs if we want to?"
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Speaking from personal experience, there is already TONS of peer pressure
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on kids to do drugs as it is. Kids are forced into it at a young age. I
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don't buy the argument that if you legalize it everything will be better.
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It *is* addictive and it is detrimental to your health (ok, maybe your
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health is YOUR bussiness, but what about the kids who are pushed into it
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at 10-14 years of age?)
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It's basically the same reason people aren't allowed run around in no
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cloths and have sex in public. This is still a democracy, and the laws are
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defined by the majority.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 365. Wed 8-26-92 7:20 (RECV'D)
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From: Kind Bud
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To: Jesus Christ
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Subject: Source, please...
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ALSO SEE: 364.
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You have stated that cannabis is *addictive* and *detrimental* to one's
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health....please give us the source of this information....cough cough...(
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Nyuk Nyuk!)hahaha
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Methinks that three days in the tomb hath left thee brain-damaged.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 366. Wed 8-26-92 14:10 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: Kind Bud
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Subject: Hemp 4 Victory BBS
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ALSO SEE: 367, 369.
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For lack of something to do, I made some gif ads for that new Hemp For
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Victory BBS the dude called in and advertised. But, I'm too cheap to call
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them l.d. and u/l them, any takers? Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 368. Wed 8-26-92 18:45 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Jesus Christ
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Subject: Wait just a damm minute....
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ALSO SEE: 364.
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| much as the harder drugs. Legalization of pot (not MJ. Let's be honest
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| people, fabric manufacture is NOT the "real" reason you want it
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| legalized... =) isn't going to help combat the drug problem any.
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Just where do you get off telling Kind Bud or anybody else the REAL reason
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we are doing this?!?!?
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As a matter of fact, WE ARE doing it for fabric and paper and food, and
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for that mater even fuel.
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I can smoke it any time I want to now. What I can't do is buy ecologicly
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safe paper and cloth.
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Mabye you should have a talk with Charles Bartwood. Thirty years ago, he
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was diagnosed with glocoma (sp?). Every day since then he has smoked the
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about half a joint a day. That is up until 1 year and a half ago. He was
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arrested for posesion and recived five years. Six months ago, he was
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hardship released. You see, he is now blind.
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I suggest you climb out of you safe little government control cocoon and
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have a look around at the REAL world.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 369. Wed 8-26-92 18:55 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Big Boy
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Subject: Hemp 4 Victory BBS
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ALSO SEE: 366, 370, 371.
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sure, what's the number?
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BTW, your first LD call using penny express is only a penny for the first
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ten minutes. Maybe you could use it to call them.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 370. Thu 8-27-92 9:21 (RECV'D)
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From: Big Boy
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Hemp 4 Victory BBS
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ALSO SEE: 369.
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I already used it to call some adult bbs Nyuk Nyuk!
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 373. Fri 9-11-92 9:26 (RECV'D)
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From: T'xai Robles
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To: Jesus Christ
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Subject: Natalie....
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ALSO SEE: 364, 374.
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Whoa! Hold on a sec, JC. Your argument is using so much circular logic
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and is so full of holes as to be almost painful to a logical mind. First,
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if something is so horrible as to need being outlawed, then you must make
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a few choices about what kind of law you're going to use to outlaw it.
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Currently, the law outlawing the use of Marijuana says that it is
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A)patently dangerous and B) has not legitimate use. Both of these
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statements are FALSE! First and foremost, the GOVERNMENT, not me, has
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studies showing that deaths from Marijuana are 0 per year. Compare that
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to Alcohol, Cigs, cars, etc... Second, there are hundreds of uses. The
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fact that the constitution was written on it should kinda prove that.
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Secondly, your argument is that making it legal will let little school
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children get access to it is both a rediculous statement, and a scare
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tactic employed by the anti-drug establishment. First, of all the legal
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drugs available, and pot, I'd much rather find out my son was smoking pot.
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At least he's not going to be getting drunk and trying to drive. You're
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usually too mellow to worry about driving when smoking.
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Are you aware that it was the petro-chemical industry that shoved the bill
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down your throat saying you couldn't use pot for ANYTHING! Of course they
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did, it's easier for them to make money offa you. So while our landfills
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overflow with petro-chemical crapola, the "weed" that could well save the
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environment is illegal, and will get you SENT TO JAIL for just smoking it.
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Do you really believe that if a person of otherwise good standing is
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caught smoking pot, a productive member of society at that, should go
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from making $30,000 a year, to COSTING $32,000 a year? That is insane, we
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simply cannot afford anyone else in prison unless they really deserve to
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be there. We are not talking about nameless faceless statistics, but REAL
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people, with REAL lives.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 378. Tue 10-13-92 18:22
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From: Phineas Faust
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To: All
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Subject: Where is everybody?
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ALSO SEE: 379.
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It seems as though nobody's posted here since the Hemp Initiative was
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knocked down. Was the initiative officially defeated at the petition
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stage?
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Regardless of all that, some of us still haven't lost interest. I'm sure
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there's still plenty to discuss in this forum.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 379. Wed 10-14-92 19:59 (RECV'D)
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From: The Foad
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To: Phineas Faust
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Subject: Where is everybody?
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ALSO SEE: 378, 380.
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I kept meaning to put something up here.
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First. Yes it is dead for this year. Note that I said "this year." We
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learned a lot of things about the system and how to deal with it. Next
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time we'll have 'em.
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It is inportant to remember that we had more than enough signatures. So
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next time around we can take our support and what we learned and nail 'em
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in the butt.
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Second. We are starting a Medical Hemp initave in Denver. We only 5000
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names to get it on the ballot in '93, and we can take as long as we need
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so we will have plenty of time to deal with the crap.
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This will legalize it within the Denver city limits, provided the posseser
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has a perscription for it. It will also instruct the mayor to ordr the
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cheif of police to make hemp proabition enforcement the lowest priority.
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Even below parking.
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Third. Kind Bud is computerless for the next mont or so.
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Msg Base: BOARD 1 AREA 5 - Kind Bud's Hemp Discussion Corner
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Msg No: 380. Thu 10-15-92 15:27 (RECV'D)
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From: Phineas Faust
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To: The Foad
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Subject: Encouraging...
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ALSO SEE: 379.
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Yes, it's great that medical hemp initiatives are being introduced in so
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many places. They tell me it has a good chance of passing this year in
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Santa Cruz and some other cities. The real good thing is that as soon as
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the government acknowledges that cannabis has valid medical uses,
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marijuana will no longer fit the DEA's definition of a schedule I
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controlled substance.
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Vive la revolution!
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Messages on tap (some may be pvt.): #1 to 380. You last read #380.
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