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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* 05 OCT 90 **************************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7@BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8@owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9@public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10@system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11@messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12@system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13@can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14@the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15@the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16@replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17@Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18@**************************************************************************
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19@
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/05/90 22:04 Msg:5552 Call:31354 Lines:4
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20 Nobody ever drew up his plans for life so well but what facts,
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21 and the years, and experience always introduce some modification.
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22 -- Terence
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23 ************************************************************************
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003=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/05/90 22:49 Msg:5553 Call:31355 Lines:16
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24
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25 At the top. Look down below. See the future. The task so slow, to finish.
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26 Now we wait. To see the fate. Of our versus and words of other prose.
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27 The Candle in the window can only burn so long. And yet it seems it must
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28 burn for ever, as of life is has grown fond.
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29
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30@The traverler, The one who knows. Our wounds to suture. Remove the blos that
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31@
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32@
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33@The Traveler, The one who knows. Our wounds to suture. Remove the blow that
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34@blemishes.
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35 The Traveler, The one that knows. Our wounds are old. And yet we feel the
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36 pain of them still.
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37 Outward bound, but inward wound. Perhaps we'll find the solid ground.
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38 Life, the final frontier.
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39
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004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/06/90 15:06 Msg:5554 Call:31360 Lines:14
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41 Day two. The silence continues. It seems sometimes that it will never end.
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42 But what is there to do? Repeat endlessly my well known views? When nobody
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43 will even put forth the effort to defend?
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44
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45 Endless worthless verse. Perhaps I am to terse.
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46
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47 Many concepts have been struck down. And for what reason? Because the
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48 participants have grown bored? They have no time they can afford. It is
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49 always the busy season. At this I frown.
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50
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51@Things change. If is as if we think that through change we make our lives
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52@better. Is this so?
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53@
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005=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/07/90 02:16 Msg:5555 Call:31367 Lines:66
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55
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56 L I F E I N T H E F O O D C H A I N
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57 Medium Rare Cynicism and Moody Broodings
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58 From
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59 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+-
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60
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61 Lately, when I read the newspaper, a scene from the
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62 movie "Aliens" will begin to play inside my head. After a
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63 hard day of battling the bloodthirsty, parasitic aliens, the
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64 heroine of the film is tucking a little girl into bed. The
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65 child is the lone survivor of an alien-ravaged settlers
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66 colony. "My mommy always told me there WERE no monsters...
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67 no real ones. But there are," the little girl says
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68 mournfully. "Why do they tell little kids that?" Good
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69 question. The answer, as I recall, was "Most of the time its
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70 true," as good a response as could be expected.
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71
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72 More and more, its beginning to feel like I'm in that
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73 movie, struggling to accept the reality that there are,
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74 indeed, monsters at the gate.
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75
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76 In New York City, a twelve year old boy is set on fire
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77 for refusing to smoke crack. In Washington state, a six year
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78 old boy's penis is cut off with a hunting knife because he
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79 is too frightened to comply with his attacker's demand to
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80 urinate on him. In Oregon, Dana Brussard is disciplined to
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81 death as the other Ecclesia children are assembled to watch.
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82 The Central Park jogger case. Westley Allen Dodd.
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84 Is there even a shred of humanity anywhere in the
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85 beings who perpetrate these things? A pathologist would
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86 confirm that they are Homo sapiens. A neurologist might find
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87 some brain damage. A psychiatrist could suspect childhood
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88 trauma. Maybe so. But what defines them as human beings?
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89 What is the qualifier?
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90
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91 Historians will be quick to cite atrocities through the
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92 ages, but maybe the 20th century is the one that has finally
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93 gone and done it; finally hit upon the right combination of
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94 greed, fear, family breakdown, lack of community or societal
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95 belonging, lack of opportunity, lack of hope...all steeped in
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96 environmental poison and the ready availability of conscience
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97 crippling drugs and fearsome weaponry...to produce a strain
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98 of Homo sapiens that is no longer human.
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99
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100 The second someone says something like that, though, the
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101 specter of genocide is usually trotted out. "So who gets to
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102 make the distinction?" one is always asked, "Who separates
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103 the monsters from the human beings? You? Hitler had the same
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104 general idea, you know."
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106 I know he did. And no, I don't have a solution. I'd be
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107 pretty wary of anybody who claimed they did. I just can't
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108 seem to shake the sense that something has shifted.
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109 Evolutionary, maybe. Some kind of species-wide allergic
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110 reaction. Human kind eating itself alive. Evil. Whatever.
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111
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112 Now, though, if my kid asks me if there are any REAL
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113 monsters, of course I'll say "No, there aren't." But I'll
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114 know that it's just one of the lies we tell little kids.
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117 Next Column Will Be UpBeat, I Swear
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006=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/07/90 15:31 Msg:5556 Call:31378 Lines:2
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120 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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007=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/08/90 08:00 Msg:5557 Call:31385 Lines:12
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122 *_)%*(@#(%_)(#@($_#%+_@#)+#_@(%(^&_)(_)($_~)#((%+@)!+@_)$+_)#~|#)+$(!_)$(!_$
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123 BW-party-goers: Gee, it sure has taken me a long time to get on here. I was
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124 gone from the board for 2 weeks, and I thought, foolishly enuf, that I might
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125 have missed a disk... Well, as I am sure you are all aware of, between Sep 23
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126 and October 8th, there have only been about 300 lines entered. Anyway, thanks
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127 all for coming, sorry about the loud music, wish the star trek episode had
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128 been a little better, but enjoyed the evening anyway... Oh by the way, has
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129 anyone seen a voyeur lately? "heeelllloooo???"
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130 Milch: How are those C compiler disks doing? I haven't seen a celene poll
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131 yet..."
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132 *$%_@*%_@*%#_)*!_)(@#!%_)*!%!%) L'homme sans Parity *%@#*_)#(_)(#$!@*$%@)$(!
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008=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/08/90 17:16 Msg:5558 Call:31390 Lines:5
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134 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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135 Howdy y'all.
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136 Been busy, as some of you know. Some don't. Oh well. I still check in from
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137 time to time. Most don't care, I suppose.
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138 [][][][][][][]][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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009=Usr:4 Milchar 10/09/90 12:05 Msg:5559 Call:31397 Lines:6
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139 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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140 L'homme: They're here. You have to come visit us, though, to get them....
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141 (heh heh heh) :-) I had a wonderful time. BTW, I have a need to call Dan S.,
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142 any way I could get his number from you? I tried calling last night, but I bet
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143 qiclab is camped on the phone line...
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144 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/10/90 21:54 Msg:5560 Call:31421 Lines:6
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145 &*&*&*&*'s
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146 Anybody here read Van Vogts Null A series?
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147
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148 An Astrals Dreamer
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149 &*&*&*&*'s
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011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/11/90 21:31 Msg:5561 Call:31428 Lines:6
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151 &*&*&*&*'s
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152 Anybody here ever see the sun?
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153
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154 An Astral Dreamer (In sarcasm mode.)
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155 &*&*&*&*'s
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012=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/11/90 22:04 Msg:5562 Call:31429 Lines:2
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157 Sun? What's that?
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158 ******************************** cm ****************
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013=Usr:13 voyeur 10/11/90 23:10 Msg:5563 Call:31430 Lines:7
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159 >Sun? What's that?
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160 Some hokey workstation, I hear. If you visit any airports, you'll notice C64's
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161 being used as wheel chocks, and Suns used as ballast. Now Apollo, on the other
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162 hand (usually used as front-ends for those exquisite Tandy 2000's, whose
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163 screens are the ONLY ones in existence that are addressed Correctly) you will
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164 find on all the Well Dressed Power Users desks. Ruling the World, as it were.
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165 ====================================== ? =====================================
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014=Usr:116 ted mittelstaedt 10/12/90 00:37 Msg:5564 Call:31431 Lines:4
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166 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
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167 Uh Oh! SSo Computer A is better than computer B? I have my blowtorch ready!
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168 Any last words?
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169 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><>Ariel<><><><><><><
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015=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 01/01/80 16:08 Msg:5565 Call:31444 Lines:11
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170 World Watch Three checking in....
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171 With all the madness in the world (as stated above) I feel rather foolish that
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172 that the only monster I must confront is trying to figure out a way to tell a
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173 married woman I'm still in love with her. I guess Pete was right, 'Love ain't
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174 for keeping.'
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175 For wwiii, this is Phoenix checking out.
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176 P.S. Sir Ossis O'liver, I've found the red-headed chick (well, she found me)
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177 but she's gone back home. 'Aeroplanes make strangers of us all/ give us dis-
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178 tance/ much to easily.'
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179 pp
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180 ^c
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016=Usr:31 The Doctor 01/03/80 05:03 Msg:5566 Call:31480 Lines:7
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181 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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182 Sorry for putting this here instead of the Mall, but no one seems to read
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183 there.
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184 For Sale: Hayes 1200b modem. Genuine Hayes. Full size 8 bit card.
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185 Asking $35.00. Works great. Reason for selling is that I just
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186 upgraded to 2400b. Please call 226-xxxx. Thanks
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187 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? The Doctor
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017=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 01/03/80 13:00 Msg:5569 Call:31485 Lines:4
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188 Must sell, Apple computer system, With the following Apple #300 baud modem,
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189 Apple ii?e, green scrscrene, dual disk drives, paralell printer card, some soft
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190 ware and a cardkey printer. Must sell as soon as posible. Call #231-1109, ask
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191 for Wes Smith, system works well, and is invery good condition.
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018=Usr:165 Bart Simpson 01/03/80 23:37 Msg:5570 Call:31490 Lines:39
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192 696969696969
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193
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194 * Original: FROM..... Harry Gish
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195 Tis interesting bit of advice recently appeared on our fax machine.
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196
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197 " NWWE RAVELLING IN THE IDEES"
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198
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199 "AKBAR KHALI-KILI HAFTIR LOTFAN"
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200 Thank you for shoigme your marvelous gun.
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201
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202 "FEKR GABUL GARDAN DAVAT PAEH GUSH DIVAR"
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203 I am delighted to accept your kind invitation to lie down on the floor
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204 with my arms above my hea n ylgs apart.
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206 "SHOMAEH FEKR TAMOMEH OEH GOFTEH BANDE"
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207 gree with everything you have ever said or thought in your life.
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208
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209 "UOARRG AVATEMAN MANO SEPAHEH-HAST"
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210 tis exceptionally kind of you to allow me to travel in the trunk of
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211 your car.
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212
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213 "FASHAL-EH TUPEHMAN NA DEGAT MANO GOFTAM CHEESHAYEH MOHMR"
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If you will do me
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214 will gladly reciprocate by betraying my country in public.
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215
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216 "HE,JPHH MANEH VA JAYEH AMRIKAHEY"
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217 I will tell you the names and addresses of many American spie rvling
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218 as reporters.
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219
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220 "BALLI, BALLI, BALLH"
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221 Whatever you say!
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222
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223 "MATERNIER GHERMEZ AHLIEH, GORBAN"
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224 The rdbidold would be lovely, execllency.
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225
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226 "TIKEH NUNEH BA OB KHRELLEH EOGV OAST INO BEGERAM"
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227 The water-soaked bread crumbs are delicious, thank you. I mus aete
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recipe.
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228 ---
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229 rgn: Squirrel Talk HST * Irving, TX *
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230
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019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 01/04/80 11:01 Msg:5571 Call:31493 Lines:29
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231 &*&*&*&*'s
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232 Anybody here know anything about monitors? Specificly, 19 inch color
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233 multi-sync monitors? I picked a couple up REAL CHEAP this weekend, and
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234 I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to get them to work. They are
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235 made by ikagami. I havn't found a date on them yet. They weigh abut
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236 65 pounds each, come in white steel casses with black trim around the screen.
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237 They have a degauss button in the lower right hand corner, as well as a
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238 brightness control. In back they have 10 connectors, Red,Green,Blue and
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239 H Sync and V Sync in and out. The connectors are the same as the ones used
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240 in thin ethernet.
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241
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242 Heres the problem. The horizontal sync doesn't seem to do anything on either
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243 monitor. There is a switch inside the case that turns internal sync on and
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244 off, but either way makes no difference either. By messing around with the
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245 internal H-sync controll I can get things to the point were they only roll on
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246 at a very slow rate when taking input from a VGA card in 80x25 text mode.
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247 about 8 to 12 bits are invisible as well to the left.
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248
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249 I only had three connectors, so I only had one or later two of the three colors
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250 hooked up when I was doing this. Could that be causing the sync problems?
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251
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252 Any help will be greatly appreciated. Oh, anybody know what I'd have to do
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253 to connect one of these things to a VCR?
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254
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255 BTW, I know about the HIGH voltages in these things and am very carefull.
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256
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257 An Astral Dreamer
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258 &*&*&*&*'s
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259
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020=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 01/05/80 06:18 Msg:5572 Call:31505 Lines:6
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260 *%@*$%#)(_$(_)$(!+_@$)_^*($*_)(%_!@)($_|+~)$|~+_)$+@_%(_$(^_$*^_)(_)!@(#_)(%
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261 Voyeur: As you already know, Sun is the most popular ballast maker in the
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262 world, with $2.5 billion in sales last year. Sigh, it is a "weighty" job I
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263 have...
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264 *%_@#*(%@(%%&)_(!~_)*%^*@#^ L'homme sans Parity *$)*$%_)*($~_)$*_%*!%*!*__)%
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265
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021=Usr:165 Bart Simpson 01/06/80 10:39 Msg:5574 Call:31523 Lines:46
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266 696969696969
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267 Manipulating the Press By Dan Hellinger
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268
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269 Conservatives seem to be convinced that the press is biased
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270 against U.S. policies in Central America. Recent reports of CIA,
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271 State Department, and Pentagon manipulation of the news media
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272 indicate that just the opposite is true.
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273
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274 A Post-Dispatch article on Oct. 6, "Report Discloses
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275 Propaganda To Aid Contras" drescribed a special office within the
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276 State Department that produced "white propaganda" on behalf of
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277 Reagan's Central America policy. To rally support for the
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278 Contras and discredit critics, they planted phony news articles
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279 under Contra authorship and "independent" reports by experts who
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280 were really in their pay.
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281
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282 Another article in the Post (Oct. 5; originally in the
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283 Boston Globe) describes ow a team of CIA and Army specialists in
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284 psychological operations were assigned to the State Department's
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285 Office of Public Diplomacy to generate a political propaganda
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286 campaign. Psychological operations are a major factor in the
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287 designs of "low intensity war" planners. What this report shows
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288 is that techniques originally conceived to win "hearts and minds"
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289 of peasants in Central America have been readily adapted for use
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290 at home.
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291
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292 The House Foreign Affair Committee listed an intricate
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293 network of organizations, including the National Security Council
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294 and the Office of Latin American Public Diplomacy. The NSC
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295 placed government-funded columns in major newspapers; arranged
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296 press interviews with Contra leaders by government surrogates who
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297 were not identified as such, book speaking engagements for
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298 administration advocates, and placed large amounts of govenrment-
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299 sponsored material in college libraries.
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301 Susan J. Cunningham, in her letter to the Post on Oct. 14,
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302 praises the Post for printing these reports and asks a very
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303 pertinent question: "If U.S. reporters know that the press
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304 releses they are receiving are phony, why do they continue to
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305 print them?" This is a worthy question. Whatever the personal
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306 biases that reporters might have about policy, they can hardly
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308 aggressive and independent posture toward government propaganda.
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312 &*&*&*&*'s
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313 Gee, forget I even asked.
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315 An Astral Dreamer
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316 &*&*&*&*'s (A simple I don't know would have been fine.)
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318 Well, maybe if you let me have one of them I'll get it going for
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319 you. <grin>
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320 ****************** CM ****************************************
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024=Usr:341 john bob 10/18/90 20:49 Msg:5577 Call:31559 Lines:3
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321 ENTER 100
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324 &*&*&*&*'s
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325 I'll keep that offer in mind. I'm going to try for awhile longer on my own,
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326 As I think I may have an idea as to what is going on.
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327
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328 mke
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026=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 10/22/90 15:08 Msg:5580 Call:31621 Lines:2
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329 NETWORK ZERO...WORLD WATCH THREE...PHOENIX POLYMORPH LURKING...NW0...WWIII
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330 ^C
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331 696969696969
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332 THE TEN MOST COMPELLING UFO CASES IN HISTORY
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333 in order of compellingness(?)
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334
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335 1. "Hudson Valy"o he Westchester Wing, NY 1984 S5/P5
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336 Thousands of reports, mostly nocturnal, of larg,sln,hovering
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337 object with series of rotating lights. Reports came from many highly
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338 rdbeidividuals including meteorologists, news reporters, and
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339 police chiefs. "Planes in frain hory still in contention;
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340 however, videos taken by area resident of both the objectada
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341 toti ay.
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342
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343 2. "Cash/Landrum", outside Houston, TX 1979 S5/P5
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344 Two ladies and 5-year-old boy report diamond-shaped object belching
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345 fire from eet,srounded by CH-47-style helicopters. Soon after
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346 sighting, all three suffered strange aaiswih were likened to
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347 radiation poisoning. Klass explains as hoax, saying that the witness'
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348 pre-sighting medical conditions were not released to him for
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349 eamination.
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350
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351 Object crashed in remote location on a large ranch in early July, 1947.
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352 Debris recovered byAF h issued hasty press release saying "Flying
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353 Disk" had been recovered. Press release rerce h ext day, and
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354 press conference held at which it was revealed the object was, in fact,
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355 aRwnsne( eice used to calibrate radar). 30 years later, AF
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356 intelligence officer Maj. J. Mare limed that the object was "not of
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357 this earth", that the press conference was a sham. Interviews ihoe
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358 150 witnesses reinforce anomalous nature of object.
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359
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360 4 "Army Helicopter", Mansfield, OH 1974 S5/P5
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361 Four National Guardsman badBl H-1H chopper report sighting
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362 large nocturnal object on collision course. Pilot-in-Command Capt.
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363 Coyne puts chopper in descent mode. Object stops in front of chopper,
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364 then continues westward travel, after which Coyne discovers that
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365 chope culyrse 2000 ft. Klass' explanation of a bolide is not
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366 supported by testimony, circumstne,o centific principles.
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367
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368 nwtr, edlesham Forest, UK 1979 S5/P4
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369 Tre separate sightings of anomalous lights near a NORAD base in the
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370 UK. Official reportfldb deputy base commander, who also taped the
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371 on-site investigation carried out by Air Police deahet. Occurence
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372 produced many witnesses, some of whom swear a craft was sighted. Invest-
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373 igation hampered by conflicting testimony, Britain's Secrets Act, grand-
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374 standing byoels hn credible witness, and possibly the "Control
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375 Group" -- A US Senator began looking int h far, but abruptly halted
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376 and would not communicate further with UFO researchers.
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377
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6. "Washington Invasion," Washington, DC 1952 S4/P5
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378 Several fast-moving objects appear on radarscopes at three separate
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379 installations,icluding Andrews AFB. Interceptors scrambled, but don't
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380 find anything. Same thing happens the next night, this time objects
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381 confirmed by gron bevr. Largest peace-time press conference in
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382 govt. history called to epan to reporters that radar traces were
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383 caused b hrmal inversions, despite absence of proper weather
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384 conditions ntenights in question.
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385
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386 Little Leagu aeball coach films two objects streaking across sky
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387 na n AFB. Original explanation was that objects were F-100s on
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388 approach to AFB, but photo-anlsssosobjects to be travelling much
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389 too fast.
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390
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391
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8. "Trent Photo", McMinnville, OR 1950 S5/P4
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392 Actually two photos taken by farmer with Polaroid camera, depict
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393 classic domed saucer. Foerudojects provide good references for
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394 analysis, which shows object to be around 30 ft. diamtr n t least
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395 1/4 mile distant. Shadows on foreground structure may be icnitn
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396 with time of day provided by photographer; hwver, that is immaterial
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397 to analysis of the imagessz and distance.
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398
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399 9. Santiago, Chile, 18 S4/P5
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400 Large object a igh altitude sighted by over 3 million Chileans,
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401 includin ie television audience. Slim possibility that object
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402 was a weather balloon that had passed over two days earlier, but
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403 newspaprpblished photos of both for comparison. Objects were
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404 very dissmlr
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405
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406 1. Kanazawa, Japan, 1989 S5/P4
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407 Home video by Japanese businessman shows Saturn-shaped object
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408 cruising around, stopping short rping, then taking off, all in
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409 clear daylight. Foreground objects provide decent reference. Video
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410 has "look" and "feel" of reality - several attempts at focusing,
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411 unsteady camerawor,ec bject gives definite impression of great
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412 dsace, although it is impossible to get an accurate measurement
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413 with video. Still under analysis.
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414
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415 696969696969696969
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028=Usr:4 Milchar 10/24/90 01:36 Msg:5583 Call:31650 Lines:4
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416 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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417 Is the PCS social still on the first Thursday? Same place, same time as
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418 usual? Perhaps I'll break my de-tendance streak this next month...
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419 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++
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029=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/26/90 00:32 Msg:5584 Call:31708 Lines:6
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420 $(!@$()_)(#%$^())__)!(@_)@(^_)(_)($+_#!@)$+_@#(_(%+_$)+!_$+!_$)@_^(_)^#$@+_^(
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421 Astral: I will bring your tape back before tomorrow night. I have an
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422 important question to ask you about the episode I borrowed. Talk to you
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423 tomorrow before I drive downtown...
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424 _%(#@%)(_%(_)%^*_)($_()%_%^*@%(@# L'homme sans parity *%_)#%*_)(_)@(#_)%(_@#(
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425
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030=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/26/90 18:02 Msg:5585 Call:31714 Lines:3
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426 Milch: Yup, it is still there, first thursday of every month at Stark Street
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427 Pizza. 92nd and Stark. All are welcome.
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428 ******************************* CM ****************************************
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031=Usr:316 scott wirth 10/26/90 20:22 Msg:5586 Call:31717 Lines:7
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429 ***************************Sir Osis*************************************
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430 Phoenix Polymorph:
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431 Roger your last. Have been in shiftwork, thus little time to post.
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432 I will post on my end soon. Say hello to JD, and see if you can get him to
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433 post on the echo. I haven't heard from him in about a zillion....
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434 Roger and OUT!
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435 ***************************Sir Osis**************************************
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032=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/27/90 08:26 Msg:5587 Call:31727 Lines:8
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436 &*&*&*&*'s
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437 Last Nights twin peaks episode was very good. Last weeks had been sort of
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438 weak, so I was hoping for something better, and they certainly delivered.
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439 I can't wait till next week.
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440
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441 An Astral Dreamer(Awake enough to use my local alias today.)
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442 &*&*&*&*'s
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443
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033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/29/90 09:36 Msg:5589 Call:31765 Lines:6
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444 &*&*&*&*'s
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445 Place marker.
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446
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447 An Astral Dreamer
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448 &*&*&*&*'s
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449
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034=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/29/90 14:06 Msg:5590 Call:31768 Lines:14
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450@
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451@}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}
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452@
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453@Last year I abstained
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454@this year I devour
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455@
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456@without guilt
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457@which is also an art
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458@
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459@ Margaret Atwood,
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460@ From CIRCE/MUD POEMS
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461@
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462@**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{} ... and there's MORE (e.g. MORE & MORE)
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463@
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035=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/29/90 14:13 Msg:5591 Call:31769 Lines:21
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464@
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465@Your flowed body, sickle
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466@scars on the chest, moonmarks, the botched knee
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467@that nevertheless bends when you will it to
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468@
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469@Your body, broken and put together
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470@not perfectly, marred
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471@by war but moving
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472@despite that with such ease and leisure
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473@
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474@Your body that includes everything
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475@you have done, you have had done
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476@to you and goes beyond it
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477@
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478@This is not what I want
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479@but I want this also.
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480@
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481@ From same as above
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482@
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483@(This is not the MORE)
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484@
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036=Usr:165 Bart Simpson 10/30/90 07:11 Msg:5592 Call:31781 Lines:142
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485 696969696969
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486 INSIGHT FEATURES (NFD) 9:06 pm Sep 4, 1990
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487
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488 A Brief History of the Gulf and the Arabian Peninsula
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489
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490 By Steve Goldfield Insight Features
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491
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492 In its precolonial period, the Arab shore of the Gulf had small seaports
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493 which frequently moved from place to place. Many of these ports housed people
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494 engaged in shipping, often called pirates by their rivals, such as the
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495 British.
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496
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497 Iran had a large textile industry and also a large shepherd population.
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498 Oman had a large shipping empire, with about 2,000 ships traveling about the
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499 Indian Ocean from what is now Indonesia to Zanzibar (which was an Omani colony
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500 until 1962--another story for another time).
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501
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502 The people of the rest of the peninsula were mainly engaged in subsistence
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503 agriculture, largely Bedouin grazing of camels and other animals in the north
|
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504 and some settled farming, especially of cereals and dates, in the south,
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505 especially in the mountains of northern Yemen and southern Oman (Dhofar),
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506 where there are significant Monsoon rains. In Yemen, this agriculture was
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507 largely based on share cropping.
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508
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509 The Colonial period
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510
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511 The British entered the region in the early nineteenth century on their way
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512 to India, the prize of the British colonial empire. The British had machine-
|
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513 produced textiles, which undermined and destroyed the Iranian textile
|
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514 industry, and later steamships, which did the same to the Omani shipping
|
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515 industry.
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516 The British were bothered by the pirates, their competitors. So they
|
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517 imposed agreements by military force with the families ruling the Gulf coastal
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518 tribes (up to that point they had been chosen fairly democratically) whereby
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519 the British would maintain these families in power in return for British
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520 military and protection and, of course, a stop to the raiding of their ships.
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521
|
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522 The economy in the Gulf, particularly Bahrain, was also based on pearl
|
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523 diving, mostly done by slaves. The Gulf was then ruled by a British resident.
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524 The small states near the outlet of the Gulf were known as the Trucial States
|
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525 because of the truces they signed with Britain between 1819 and 1853. Bahrain
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526 signed its treaty in 1892, Kuwait in 1899 (in opposition to the claims of the
|
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527 Ottoman Empire), and Qatar in 1916. More recently, the Trucial States became
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528 nominally independent as the United Arab Emirates.
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529
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530 In Saudi Arabia, Muhammad Ali, the Albanian serving as the Ottoman governor
|
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531 of Egypt (later to rebel himself), put down a rebellion by the new Wahhabi
|
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532 religious sect of Islam in 1817. The Wahhabis are significant because the
|
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533 Saudi family belongs to this sect.
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534
|
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535 After World War I, the British had promised independence to the Arabs
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536 (Hussein-McMahon Treaty) in return for their support against the Ottoman
|
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537 Turks. But they had also signed the Sykes-Picot Treaty with the French,
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538 dividing it up among themselves. That treaty was supposed to secret, but when
|
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539 the Bolsheviks came to power, they found it in the czar's archives and
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540 published it. Instead, as a token, they gave Jordan and Iraq to two branches
|
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541 of the Hashemite family which had ruled Mecca.
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542
|
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543 Meanwhile, the Saudi family was conquering most of the Arabian Peninsula.
|
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544 They used brutal military force (1902-1935), confiscating even flocks of sheep
|
|||
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545 and goats which were the livelihood of people in the areas they took over.
|
|||
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546 They killed many adult men; the Saudis took no male prisoners.
|
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547
|
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548 This conquest, which is still fresh in the memories of those who were
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549 conquered, naturally has engendered a lot of hatred for the Saudi family. Ibn
|
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550 Saud's many marriages into the various tribes was not enough to dispel it.
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551 Further, there is religious dissatisfaction with the Saudis since they are not
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552 the traditional rulers of Mecca. (Particular irony, therefore, in King Fahd's
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553 new self-proclaimed title of Keeper of Mecca and Medina.)
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554
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555 The Role of Oil
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556
|
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557 Massive oil deposits were discovered in Iran. The British set up a company
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558 to exploit the oil, now known as British Petroleum. In the 1930s, oil was
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559 discovered on the other side of the Gulf, first in Bahrain (1932; production
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560 began in 1934), which had relatively small deposits which are now all pumped
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561 out, and much larger deposits elsewhere.
|
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562
|
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563 The British felt they had plenty of oil in Iran and didn't want to develop
|
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564 other deposits which might increase the supply too high and lower the price.
|
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565 So US companies managed to gain control over the oil in the Gulf states. Ibn
|
|||
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566 Saud, for example, had large expenses and little sources of revenue; he sold
|
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567 his oil rights for a pittance in 1933 to Standard Oil of California (now
|
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568 Chevron), which later formed Aramco with Exxon, Texaco, and Mobil. Oil
|
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569 production began in Saudi Arabia in 1938. In 1953 Ibn Saud died. His son Saud
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570 tried to break the agreement with Aramco in favor of Greek shipping magnate
|
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571 Aristotle Onassis. In 1958 Saud was removed from authority.
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572
|
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573 After World War II, Iran had a democratic government led by Mohammed
|
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574 Mossadegh, which wanted to nationalize oil. He was overthrown by a CIA-
|
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575 organized coup, and the Shah was installed in power. In 1958, Iraqis overthrew
|
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576 the king. Later, the Ba'ath Party came to power; it still rules there. In the
|
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577 same period (1957-59), there was a revolution in northern Oman. The Saudis
|
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578 withdrew their support in 1958, and the rebellion was crushed. The Omanis
|
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579 started a second revolt in 1965 in the southern province of Dhofar. That
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580 revolt was crushed ten years later when the Shah of Iran sent 30,000 troops
|
|||
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581 into Oman.
|
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582
|
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583 Neocolonialism was instituted when the colonial powers came up with the
|
|||
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584 idea of having the colonies pay their own administrative expenses in response
|
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585 to the nationalization of oil by Algeria. In the Gulf, this took the form of
|
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586 the participation agreements where legal ownership over the oil-producing
|
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587 facilities was gradually turned over to the local governments, who had to pay
|
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588 production costs instead of the oil companies. Saudi Arabia, for example, was
|
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589 given 25 percent control in 1972, 30 percent in 1979, and 51 percent in 1983.
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590
|
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591 This control, however, was financial, not control over production itself.
|
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592 The price of oil was low (about $3 per barrel), and the oil companies profits
|
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593 dropped to as low as 9 percent on their invested capital. In 1973, they staged
|
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594 the phony embargo, and oil company profits rose back to about 15 percent.
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595
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596 In 1961, the new Iraqi regime announced its impending annexation of Kuwait.
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597 The British airlifted troops into Kuwait, and Iraq did not annex the country.
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598 (The borders in that area have an interesting history. Few were interested in
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599 the hinterland, for instance, of Kuwait. The British drew circles around the
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600 cities as borders. In the areas between the circles, nobody claimed ownership.
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601 These areas are now neutral zones.
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602
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603 British Withdrawal
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604
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605 In the 1960s, the British, the dominant military power in the region, went
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606 into an economic slump. At the same time, a strong revolution was underway in
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607 South Yemen. (North Yemen had overthrown the Imam who ruled it in 1962 and
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608 then fought a five-year civil war with Egypt supporting the Republic and Saudi
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609 Arabia supporting the Imam's son. Egypt gave in after the 1967 war, though the
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610 Imam was not reinstated.) In 1971, Britain partially withdrew militarily from
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611 the region, despite the US attempts to get them to stay. In 1969, South Yemen
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612 won its independence, though its economy was crippled because the Suez Canal
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613 had closed during the 1967 war.
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614
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615 At the same time, the United States was engaged in massive intervention in
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616 Vietnam. The Nixon Doctrine of strength, partnership, and negotiations, was
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617 developed to let Asians fight Asians. In the Gulf, it meant that Iranians and
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618 Israelis fight Arabs.
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619
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620 The overthrow of the Shah of Iran came in 1979, the same year there were
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621 two uprisings in widely separated parts of Saudi Arabia: the oil regions and
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622 Mecca. Partnership was a failure, so the United States was forced to fall back
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623 on strength. Since that time, the United States has been desperate to obtain
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624 military bases in the region to protect its economic control over the oil
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625 reserves. The only base the US had was the tiny al-Jufair naval base with two
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626 small and ineffective ships in Bahrain.
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627 In 1970, Omani Sultan Said bin Taimur was deposed in favor of his son
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628 Qaboos because an indigenous revolution was gaining ground strongly in the
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629 South. Qaboos turned to the Shah of Iran for help in 1973. That same year
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630 brought the October War. Some of the Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia,
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631 declared an embargo which was supposed to stop their oil going to the United
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632 States. Still, more oil came into the United States than before the embargo.
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633 Oil prices, however, and oil profits rose dramatically.
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634
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635 President Jimmy Carter pledged to use US troops to keep the Saudi royal
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636 family in power. There was no threat to them from either Iraq or Iran at the
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637 time (Iran historically claimed Bahrain and did take some Arab islands in the
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638 Gulf under the Shah [greater and lesser Tunb Islands, which belonged to Ras
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639 al-Khaimah], so it was clear that the US government was pledged to protect the
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640 Saudi royal family from overthrow by its own citizens. Carter also pledged to
|
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641 intervene if U.S. oil companies were threatened with loss of control over oil
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642 production in the Gulf.
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643
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644 Some Recommended Reading:
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645
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646 A House Built on Sand: A Political Economy of Saudi Arabia, Helen Lackner,
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647 Ithaca Press, 1978.
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648
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649 Arabia without Sultans, Fred Halliday, Penguin (Vintage), 1974.
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650
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651 Oil and World Power: A Geographical Interpretation, Peter R. Odell,
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652 Penguin, 1970.
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653
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654 Power Play: Oil in the Middle East, Leonard Mosely, Penguin, 1973.
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655
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656 World Crisis in Oil, Harvey O'Connor, Monthly Review Press, 1962.
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657
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658 Empire of Oil, Harvey O'Connor, Monthly Review Press, 1962.
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659
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660 Middle East Oil and the Energy Crisis, Joe Stork, Monthly Review Press,
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661 1975.
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662
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663 Modern History of the Arab Countries, V. Lutsky, Progress Publishers, 1969.
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664
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665 Modern Yemen: 1918-1966, Manfred W. Wenner, Johns Hopkins Press, 1967.
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666
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667 Oman since 1856, Robert G. Landen, Princeton University Press, 1967.
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668
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669 Steve Goldfield, Ph.D., is editor of Palestine Focus, the national
|
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670 newspaper of the Palestine Solidarity Committee.
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671 696969696969696969
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672 696969696969
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673 INSIGHT FEATURES (NFD) 9:10 pm Sep 4, 1990
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674
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675 Bush Has Put Us On The Wrong Side Of Arab History
|
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676
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677 By John Rossen
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678 Insight Features
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679
|
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680 The current jingoist hysteria over Iraq, shamefully echoed by much of the
|
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681 media and even by knowledgeable and liberal members of Congress who know
|
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682 better, presents a deadly danger to our country and to world peace.
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683
|
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684 Look how easy it is now for the Bush administration and its closely linked
|
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685 oil and military interests! They are able to manipulate and exploit the anger
|
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686 of middle class and working class Americans, the millions of people suddenly
|
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687 forced to pay 20 cents to 45 cents a gallon more for gasoline, big increases
|
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688 in air fares, and rising costs of all products derived from petroleum.
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689
|
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690 The danger arises from widespread public ignorance of the history of the
|
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691 Arab peoples and especially of the legacy of World War I, an ignorance which
|
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692 makes it easy for jingoes to spread their poison.
|
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693
|
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694 With the decline of the Ottoman empire more than a century ago, the
|
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695 European imperial powers started to take over substantial parts of its domains
|
|||
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696 in what was then called Arabia. The French ruled Algeria from 1830 until 1962;
|
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697 the British occupied Egypt in the 1880s. The Arab peoples suffered greatly
|
|||
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698 under foreign rule.
|
|||
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699
|
|||
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700 When World War I began, the British sent T.E. Lawrence ( the renowned
|
|||
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701 "Lawrence of Arabia") to Egypt to head their military intelligence section.
|
|||
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702 Shortly after, as a colonel in the British Army, he helped organize the Arab
|
|||
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703 revolt against Turkey, an ally of Germany in World War I. Lawrence's
|
|||
|
704 diplomatic and military genius and his close relationship with and passionate
|
|||
|
705 sympathy for the Arab cause was an importance factor in the defeat of the
|
|||
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706 Turks and the reconquest of Syria by the Arabs.
|
|||
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707
|
|||
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708 In 1919 at the Versailles Conference, Lawrence, hailed by many Arabs as the
|
|||
|
709 "uncrowned King of Arabia," pleaded the cause of Arab nationalism and the
|
|||
|
710 right of self-determination, but to no avail. In 1921 he became adviser to
|
|||
|
711 the British Colonial Office, but resigned when the British sent in troops to
|
|||
|
712 organize a rebellion against Iraq and installed a sheik as the King of Kuwait.
|
|||
|
713 Thus the "nation" of Kuwait was little more than a creature of British
|
|||
|
714 imperialism.
|
|||
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715
|
|||
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716 Little wonder that the first Western powers with troops on Arab soil today
|
|||
|
717 are the United States and England.
|
|||
|
718
|
|||
|
719 The tragic consequences of Bush's threatened military bombing or all-out
|
|||
|
720 invasion of Iraq are so easily perceivable that even conservative political
|
|||
|
721 commentators are warning him of the danger of uniting the Arab world in a
|
|||
|
722 jihad against the U.S.
|
|||
|
723
|
|||
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724 Iraq would not be another Panama or Grenada. It could result in a
|
|||
|
725 catastrophe for our country many times worse than Vietnam--not only for our
|
|||
|
726 country, but also for the Arabs, for Israel and its people, and possibly for
|
|||
|
727 the entire world.
|
|||
|
728
|
|||
|
729 Bush and his advisers have hidden from the American people Iraq's
|
|||
|
730 confidential proposals made through diplomatic channels, for a bilateral
|
|||
|
731 conference without preconditions, to search for a just and peaceful resolution
|
|||
|
732 of the conflict. Bush may believe he is making political hay by beating the
|
|||
|
733 drums of jingoism. He may even count on making Hussein and Iraq the
|
|||
|
734 scapegoats, as some conservatives have suggested, for the great depression of
|
|||
|
735 1990.
|
|||
|
736
|
|||
|
737 The Middle East crisis is the result of imperial policies that have
|
|||
|
738 exploited and oppressed a great and powerful Arab world for a long time. The
|
|||
|
739 radical founders of our nation would be spinning in their graves at this
|
|||
|
740 latter-day Tory threat to waste American lives and treasure (at the current
|
|||
|
741 rate of more than $30 million a day!) to restore to power a puppet-dictator
|
|||
|
742 monarch.
|
|||
|
743 As one of the richest men in the world, the King of Kuwait will hardly
|
|||
|
744 suffer in exile. He has bought up more than a billion dollars worth of U.S.
|
|||
|
745 real estate and has secret bank accounts and hoards of gold around the world.
|
|||
|
746 Even spread out among his 55 wives and many offspring, he and his entire
|
|||
|
747 family are all multimillionaires.
|
|||
|
748
|
|||
|
749 A pillar of the American revolution was the denial of the divine right of
|
|||
|
750 kings and dictatorial tyrants. The Bush policy is thus a blatant violation of
|
|||
|
751 a cardinal principle of our nation.
|
|||
|
752
|
|||
|
753 The American people must demand that the White House accept the Iraqi offer
|
|||
|
754 to begin negotiations, without preconditions, for a non-military resolution of
|
|||
|
755 this conflict within the Arab world, for recognition of the right of self-
|
|||
|
756 determination for Arabs. That message must be sent loud and clear to both the
|
|||
|
757 President and the Congress.
|
|||
|
758
|
|||
|
759 -- 30 --
|
|||
|
760
|
|||
|
761 John Rossen, a veteran of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade and of World War II,
|
|||
|
762 is a Chicago peace activist and editor of the New Patriot.
|
|||
|
763 696969696969696969
|
|||
|
764
|
|||
|
765 "And it's one, two three, what are we fightin' for?
|
|||
|
766 Don't ask me, I don't give a da*n, next stop is Viet Nam....oops I mean
|
|||
|
767 Kuwait...Ain't no need to wonder why, whoopee, we're all gonna die."
|
|||
|
768 (apologizes to Country Joe McDonald)
|
|||
|
769
|
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|
|||
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770@ }**{}**{}**{}**{}***{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}**{}
|
|||
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771@
|
|||
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772@THEY ARE HOSTILE NATIONS
|
|||
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773@
|
|||
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774@i
|
|||
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775@
|
|||
|
776@In view of the fading animals
|
|||
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777@the proliferation of sewers and fears
|
|||
|
778@the sea clogging, the air
|
|||
|
779@nearing extinction
|
|||
|
780@
|
|||
|
781@we should be kind, we should
|
|||
|
782@take warning, we should forgive each other
|
|||
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783@
|
|||
|
784@Instead we are opposite, we
|
|||
|
785@touch as though attacking,
|
|||
|
786@
|
|||
|
787@the gifts we bring
|
|||
|
788@even in good faith maybe
|
|||
|
789@warp in our hands to
|
|||
|
790@implements, to manoeuvres
|
|||
|
791@
|
|||
|
792@ii
|
|||
|
793@
|
|||
|
794@Put down the target of me
|
|||
|
795@you guard inside your binoculars,
|
|||
|
796@in turn I will surrender
|
|||
|
797@
|
|||
|
798@this aerial photograph
|
|||
|
799@(your vulnerable
|
|||
|
800@sections marked in red)
|
|||
|
801@I have found so useful
|
|||
|
802@
|
|||
|
803@See, we are alone in
|
|||
|
804@the dormant field, the snow
|
|||
|
805@that cannot be eaten or captured
|
|||
|
806@
|
|||
|
807@iii
|
|||
|
808@
|
|||
|
809@Here there are no armies
|
|||
|
810@here there is no money
|
|||
|
811@
|
|||
|
812@It is cold and getting colder
|
|||
|
813@
|
|||
|
814@We need each others'
|
|||
|
815@breathing, warmth, surviving
|
|||
|
816@in the only war
|
|||
|
817@we can afford, stay
|
|||
|
818@
|
|||
|
819@walking with me, there is almost
|
|||
|
820@time/ if we can only
|
|||
|
821@make it as far as
|
|||
|
822@
|
|||
|
823@the (possibly) last summer
|
|||
|
824@
|
|||
|
825@ Margaret Atwood, from POWER POLITICS
|
|||
|
826@
|
|||
|
827@
|
|||
|
828@ you fit into me
|
|||
|
829@ like a hook into an eye
|
|||
|
830@
|
|||
|
831@ a fish hook
|
|||
|
832@ an open eye
|
|||
|
833@
|
|||
|
834@
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
835 &*&*&*&*'s
|
|||
|
836 [
|
|||
|
837 Today I have the tower of bable on my mind. I'm sure most of us are more
|
|||
|
838 or less familiar with the story. It goes more or less like this as I
|
|||
|
839 remember.
|
|||
|
840
|
|||
|
841 Once all the people on earth spoke a single language. Everyone understood
|
|||
|
842 each other. Then one day a powerfull king decided to build a very tall
|
|||
|
843 tower. The purpose being to reach heavan, and thus I believe the king felt
|
|||
|
844 he would prove himself better then any other mortal man. Of course, this
|
|||
|
845 being an old testament story I believe God got a little ticked at the king,
|
|||
|
846 and nocked his tower down, and as punishment he made people speak many [D
|
|||
|
847 different languages, so that I would assume they wouldn't be able to so
|
|||
|
848 easily undertake such a massive task.
|
|||
|
849
|
|||
|
850 I may have the finer details wrong, but I'm just using the story as a starting
|
|||
|
851 point. Most if not all of the users of this board speak english fluently.
|
|||
|
852 I am no exception. Most of us converse with others on a regular basis. One
|
|||
|
853 would assume that some sort of exchange is taking place, wether it is an
|
|||
|
854 exchange of ideas, or meerly small talk.
|
|||
|
855
|
|||
|
856 Words are the tools we use to impart knowledge and understanding upon each
|
|||
|
857 other. They greatly facilitate our every day survival and well being. And
|
|||
|
858 yet, I'm slowly coming to the realization that no two people actually speak
|
|||
|
859 the same language.
|
|||
|
860
|
|||
|
861 Few would argue that every single person is a unique individual. We all have
|
|||
|
862 our own personal likes and dislikes. We all have our own opinions, our own
|
|||
|
863 loves and hates. And we all interact in complex and unique ways. Or do
|
|||
|
864 we?
|
|||
|
865
|
|||
|
866 Have you ever had a debate with another person in which you just couldn't
|
|||
|
867 seem to get your point across? Did you ever wonder if they felt the same
|
|||
|
868 way? I'm betting they did. Who was really at fault? Have you ever argued
|
|||
|
869 with somebody for hours, only to realize that they weren't talking about the
|
|||
|
870 same thing that you were?
|
|||
|
871
|
|||
|
872 How does this happen? Why does it happen? Lets assume that both you and
|
|||
|
873 your opponent are both native speakers. How could this misunderstanding
|
|||
|
874 take place?
|
|||
|
875
|
|||
|
876 It seems to me that the only explanation is that with very few exceptions,
|
|||
|
877 no two people really speak the same language when you get beyond the "hello
|
|||
|
878 how are you" stage of conversation. Our biasis kick in, and we start filtering
|
|||
|
879 things through our world picture. Bingo, meaning is lost. Especially when
|
|||
|
880 you realize that the other person is talking to you through their own
|
|||
|
881 world picture. Quite a bit of information gets lost in the translation.
|
|||
|
882
|
|||
|
883 If you want to see this in action, subject somebody to something that is
|
|||
|
884 outside of their world view. Do their eyes cross? Do they momentarily
|
|||
|
885 drool? Don't jump to the conclussion that this only happens to religious
|
|||
|
886 zeoloits. I'm sure you could pull it on almost any liberal minded person
|
|||
|
887 as well.
|
|||
|
888
|
|||
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889 Just something thats been running through my mind? Anybody got any thoughts?
|
|||
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890
|
|||
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891 An Astral Dreamer
|
|||
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892 &*&*&*&*'s
|
|||
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893
|
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|
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|
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894
|
|||
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895
|
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|
896 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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897
|
|||
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898 Thoughts To Get You Through Almost Any Crisis
|
|||
|
899
|
|||
|
900 1. Indecision is the key to flexibility.
|
|||
|
901 2. There is always one more son of a bitch than you counted
|
|||
|
902 on.
|
|||
|
903 3. If you ever find something you like, buy a lifetime
|
|||
|
904 supply, because they will stop making it.
|
|||
|
905 4. All things being equal, fat people use more soap.
|
|||
|
906 5. You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the
|
|||
|
907 track.
|
|||
|
908 6. Be kind, everyone you meet is fighting a tough battle.
|
|||
|
909 7. This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it.
|
|||
|
910 8. There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of
|
|||
|
911 preparation.
|
|||
|
912 9. By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends.
|
|||
|
913 10. Happiness is merely the remission of pain.
|
|||
|
914 11. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
|
|||
|
915 12. Sometimes too much drink is not enough.
|
|||
|
916 13. The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant.
|
|||
|
917 14. The world gets a little better every day, and worse in
|
|||
|
918 the evening.
|
|||
|
919 15. The careful application of pain is also a form of
|
|||
|
920 communication.
|
|||
|
921 16. Not one shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea
|
|||
|
922 that life is serious.
|
|||
|
923 17. Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the
|
|||
|
924 real world.
|
|||
|
925 18. Things are more like they are today than they ever have
|
|||
|
926 been before.
|
|||
|
927 19. The other line always moves faster until you get in it.
|
|||
|
928 20. Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
|
|||
|
929 21. Everything should be made as simple as possible but no
|
|||
|
930 simpler.
|
|||
|
931 22. Friends may come and go but enemies accumulate.
|
|||
|
932 23. It's hard to be nostalgic when you can't remember
|
|||
|
933 anything.
|
|||
|
934 24. I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
|
|||
|
935 25. To live forever, acquire a chronic disease and take care
|
|||
|
936 of it.
|
|||
|
937 26. Suicide is the most sincere form of self criticism.
|
|||
|
938 27. If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't
|
|||
|
939 met everybody.
|
|||
|
940 28. If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone
|
|||
|
941 in mind to blame.
|
|||
|
942 29. One seventh of your life is spent on Monday.
|
|||
|
943 30. The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets.
|
|||
|
944 31. Instant gratification takes too long.
|
|||
|
945
|
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|
946@ Q*%ttUkmuttUiimUUtUitjjtjitUtmteUvUZerrUUUQ*jterrreATDT230-1041
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947@
|
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948@li
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949 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+-
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950 I Got A Million Of 'Em
|
|||
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951
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952
|
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953 {+}{+}{+}{+}
|
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954
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955
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958 MORE AND MORE
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959
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960 More and more frequently the edges
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961 of me dissolve and I become
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962 a wish t assimilate the world, including
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963 you, if possible through the skin
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964 like a cool plant's tricks with oxygen
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965 and live by a harmless green burning
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966
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967 I would not consume
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968 you, or ever
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969 finish, you would still be there
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970 surrounding me, complete
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971 as the air.
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972
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973 Unfortunately I don't have leaves.
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974 Instead I have eyes
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975 and teeth and other non-green
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976 things which rule out osmosis.
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977
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978 So be careful, I mean it,
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979 I give you a fair warning:
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980
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981 This kind of hunger draws
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982 everything into its own
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983 space; nor can we
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984 talk it over, have a calm
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985 rational discussion.
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986
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987 There is no reason for this, only
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988 a starved dog's logic about bones.
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989
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990 By Margaret Atwood,
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991 From THE ANIMALS IN THAT COUNTRY, 1968
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992@I WAS READING A SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE
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994@They have photographed the brain
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995@and here is the picture, it is full of
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996@branches as I always suspected,
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997
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998 That's all for now ...
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999@.... HEY MIKEY - What the ???? Where's lines 953-95?????? Can't post copy-r
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