606 lines
37 KiB
Plaintext
606 lines
37 KiB
Plaintext
|
|
|||
|
1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
|
|||
|
2 ************************* INSTALLED: 22 SEP 85 *********************
|
|||
|
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
|
|||
|
4 ************************************************************
|
|||
|
5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
|
|||
|
6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
|
|||
|
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
|
|||
|
8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
|
|||
|
9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
|
|||
|
10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
|
|||
|
11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
|
|||
|
12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
|
|||
|
13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
|
|||
|
14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
|
|||
|
15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
|
|||
|
16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
|
|||
|
17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
|
|||
|
18 *****************************************************************
|
|||
|
19
|
|||
|
20 (&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)
|
|||
|
21 Hey! Ahem not being one to gloat... but... AT THE TOP!!!!
|
|||
|
22 (&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&) Dren (&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)(&)
|
|||
|
23 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|
|||
|
24 Tell me no more of minds embracing minds,
|
|||
|
25 And hearts exchanged for hearts;
|
|||
|
26 That spirits spirits meet, as winds do winds,
|
|||
|
27 And mix thier subt'lest parts;
|
|||
|
28 That two unbodied essences may kiss,
|
|||
|
29 And then like angels, twist and feel one bliss.
|
|||
|
30
|
|||
|
31 I was that silly thing that once was wrought
|
|||
|
32 To practise this thin love:
|
|||
|
33 I climbed from sex to soul, to thought;
|
|||
|
34 But thinking there to move,
|
|||
|
35 Headlong I rolled from thought to soul, and then
|
|||
|
36 From soul I lighted at the sex again.
|
|||
|
37
|
|||
|
38 As some strict down-looked men pretend to fast,
|
|||
|
39 Who yet in closets eat;
|
|||
|
40 So lovers who profess they spirits taste,
|
|||
|
41 Feed yet on grosser meat;
|
|||
|
42 I know they boast they souls to souls convey,
|
|||
|
43 Howe'er they meet, the body is the way.
|
|||
|
44
|
|||
|
45 Come, I will undeceive thee, they that tread
|
|||
|
46 Those vain aerial ways,
|
|||
|
47 Are like young heirs and alchemists misled
|
|||
|
48 To waste their wealth and days,
|
|||
|
49 For searching thus to be forever rich,
|
|||
|
50 They only find a medicine for the itch.
|
|||
|
51 William Cartwright
|
|||
|
52
|
|||
|
53 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|
|||
|
54
|
|||
|
55 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
|
|||
|
56 WHERE ARE MY MESSAGES?PUDMAN-MUD ON THE MACHINES.
|
|||
|
57
|
|||
|
58 --------------------------------
|
|||
|
59 Okay, is tere any user out there that has heard of a program called 'Tekterm'?
|
|||
|
60 If so, please leave a message for Mark here in the near furture. If you
|
|||
|
61 haven't heard of Tekterm, ask a friend, THEN leave me a message about it.
|
|||
|
62 --------------------------------
|
|||
|
63 {O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}
|
|||
|
64 A cold lifeless form lies amid the clothes. Laying quiet-
|
|||
|
65 ly, it is as if there were no life to motivate the body at all.
|
|||
|
66 But as the grey light of the morning creeps in the window, it
|
|||
|
67 finally begins to stir. A hand streaches out...grasping,
|
|||
|
68 searching for something. Finally it finds its prize, a pillow.
|
|||
|
69 Drawing it back, the form becomes silent once again, holding
|
|||
|
70 the pillow closly to its bossom.
|
|||
|
71 I lay in that state between wakefulness and sleep. The
|
|||
|
72 world drifts in shadow and change. A longing I cannot describe
|
|||
|
73 or understand overcomes me, and I reach out for what is not
|
|||
|
74 there. My hand touches something solid, I grasp at it, and
|
|||
|
75 pull it near. My senses fill with a delightful smell. The
|
|||
|
76 touch, it is silken smooth, and my ears echo her silent sigh
|
|||
|
77 as I hold her in my arms once again.
|
|||
|
78 Her head next to mine, each breath intermingling. I touch
|
|||
|
79 her sweet soft lips with mine. And the world dissolves into
|
|||
|
80 dream. Am I still holding her? Is this form real? The head
|
|||
|
81 that rests on my shoulder breathing soft warm air, is it really
|
|||
|
82 there? Does the soft sigh I hear really come from her lips?
|
|||
|
83 How long has it been since there was even an inkling of such
|
|||
|
84 feelings? To feel at peace with the world, to feel as one, to
|
|||
|
85 know no sorrow, to feel no pain. Is this the true meaning to
|
|||
|
86 life? Is this what I truly strive for, this feeling of content-
|
|||
|
87 ment, of eternal peace?
|
|||
|
88 How long have I denied this feeling? How long has it lain
|
|||
|
89 hidden in the depths of my mind? And who is this shadow that
|
|||
|
90 wakens it from the long dark rest, to cause me to think such
|
|||
|
91 things again? Old doors are opened, and the delicous sweet
|
|||
|
92 smell of perfume fills the corridors of my mind, displacing the
|
|||
|
93 musty stale metalic air of forgetfulness. One touch, and I am
|
|||
|
94 quivering to my very soul. A look from those cool green eyes,
|
|||
|
95 and I melt into a small helpless child. One smile from her,
|
|||
|
96 and it is eternally spring.
|
|||
|
97 I move to kiss her forhead, to stroke her warm brown hair,
|
|||
|
98 but I find in my arms only a pillow, and the shadow of a memory
|
|||
|
99 never seen. And in the cold morning light softly I cry for
|
|||
|
100 that which is not there.
|
|||
|
101 {O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}X{O}
|
|||
|
102
|
|||
|
103 HELP I am going to be on the rad for an interview about Bulletin Boards
|
|||
|
104 and the dreaded "HACKERS" the press defination
|
|||
|
105 you know the outlaws...people who wish to break into systems regularly...the interview can be by
|
|||
|
106 phone if you wish and first names only will be used
|
|||
|
107 iof you are one or know of one PLEASE call me at 288 xxxx...thanks
|
|||
|
108 Bill Marx CBBS/NW Sysop
|
|||
|
109
|
|||
|
110 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|||
|
111 Is there something wrong with my leaving a message for Pudman on your BBS?
|
|||
|
112 Pudman is his video signature, and the only name I know him by. He ask me to
|
|||
|
113 leave him some messages here, but they seem to keep dissapearing.
|
|||
|
114 DEAR MR. SYSOP, PLEASE REPLY
|
|||
|
115 Sincerely,
|
|||
|
116 RHD inc.
|
|||
|
117 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|||
|
118 -+- 117/605 -JUGGLER- -+-
|
|||
|
119 !!!!!! Pudman !!!!!!
|
|||
|
120 Just a quick note to let you know that I saw your earlier message. Let me know
|
|||
|
121 if this gets through to you or not. I escaped from Phantasia, by the by,
|
|||
|
122 and I gave Doug a Royal hint as to how he might also do it. I also made a
|
|||
|
123 suggestion as to how he might get the water rhune. Well, adios for now.
|
|||
|
124 True as they come,
|
|||
|
125 RHD inc.
|
|||
|
126 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|||
|
127 [/]
|
|||
|
128 *******************************************************************
|
|||
|
129 good romantic stuff, sometimes i wish i could think in such modes.
|
|||
|
130 *****************************kathyd********************************
|
|||
|
131 -+- -+- And sometimes I wish I wouldn't.. Beat to the punch. -+- -+-
|
|||
|
132 -+- -+- Why isn't the phone answered? -+- -JUGGLER- -+- -+-
|
|||
|
133
|
|||
|
134 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
|
|||
|
135
|
|||
|
136 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
|
|||
|
137 Perhaps the subtlest reality of all is that bone-encased reality that
|
|||
|
138 nestles within the skull. Here, the subtle drift of chemicals in minute
|
|||
|
139 amounts mixes with nearly imperceptable electrical charges, weaving its
|
|||
|
140 net that includes (for us) not only the universe, but all imaginable
|
|||
|
141 universes. Just as a craftsman in software for silicon-based systems
|
|||
|
142 works at various levels of abstraction in his work, we who write for the
|
|||
|
143 wetware of the living systems work in levels and levels of abstraction.
|
|||
|
144 We can tell the truth by lying, and dissemble by telling only truths.
|
|||
|
145 How then can judgements be made? When the ground supporting the transit
|
|||
|
146 quivers and shakes, and the surveyor's chain stretches and shrinks, how
|
|||
|
147 can we chart these realms with accuracy? We have only reports of the
|
|||
|
148 explorers in these lands; their tales are wonderous and strange. We cannot
|
|||
|
149 know with certaintude just how to reconcile the differences, but must
|
|||
|
150 remember that the internal vocabulary is likely different, one from the
|
|||
|
151 other. We can assume a common basic organization, but details assuredly
|
|||
|
152 will change.
|
|||
|
153 To a sensitive perception the use of many of the "mental energys" is
|
|||
|
154 obvious. To most, it appears as a subtle play of colors; to some, a
|
|||
|
155 sound or smell. Within the pell-mell, in a small chamber devoid of
|
|||
|
156 most of the decorations that had amused the party for so long, lay two
|
|||
|
157 bodies. Two young women, similar in age and size, shared an uneasy
|
|||
|
158 unconciousness, one physically strong and healthy through choice, the
|
|||
|
159 other near death. To a sensitive observer, the play of mental color, the
|
|||
|
160 scent of the chase, the symphony of still-untrained energies would be
|
|||
|
161 extremely unsettling; to the unsensitive, all was quiet and still.
|
|||
|
162 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
|
|||
|
163 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
|
|||
|
164 Shaken by a final convulsion, the piper's body accepted at last the
|
|||
|
165 necessity to go on living. Exhausted by the struggle, the piper slipped
|
|||
|
166 from the exhausting convulsive coma into a resting, natural sleep.
|
|||
|
167 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
|
|||
|
168 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|||
|
169 Cragmore had mind-sent "Piper seems to be-" just before my fatigue caught up
|
|||
|
170 to me. The dust I had so painfully collected and held drifted into a neat
|
|||
|
171 little pile, to be collected by a small cleaning robot who soon vanished into
|
|||
|
172 a panel. I tried feebly to signal Cragmore. I could not hold, so let go.
|
|||
|
173 Again vertigo, but exhaustion dulled it to something that could be dealt with.
|
|||
|
174 Suddenly, blackness engulfs me. Not even the little points of light that
|
|||
|
175 were my companions on the outgoing trip ventured here- I was alone. And just
|
|||
|
176 as suddenly, I HURT - my hands especially - as if I had been plunged into a
|
|||
|
177 kettle of molten iron. Nature is kind to those so hurt. I passed out.
|
|||
|
178 ++++++++++++++++++
|
|||
|
179 "Will he be okay?" Grann asked.
|
|||
|
180 "Yah, I think he will. At least he don't have that 'twilight zone' look to
|
|||
|
181 him anymore. He's just sleeping." the Doctor tried to make his voice sound
|
|||
|
182 confident. He wasn't managing it very well.
|
|||
|
183 "I'll go up to the control room and study. Can you watch him?"
|
|||
|
184 "Sure, Grann."
|
|||
|
185 Grann wound his way through the nearly endless corridors that was the TARDIS
|
|||
|
186 with an uncanny ability to find his destination by the most direct route.
|
|||
|
187 He emerged, of course, in the control room. Making sure the Doctor was not
|
|||
|
188 watching via one of the several dozen closed-circuit cameras, Grann started
|
|||
|
189 on a spell of his own.
|
|||
|
190 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++ 23 Sept 85, 9:56am +++++++++
|
|||
|
191 ########################################
|
|||
|
192 *** To: OLDSPICE ***
|
|||
|
193 I have heard of your soon recent tripto The Land Of The Morning Calm, and
|
|||
|
194 think it best to warn you of the dangers of the terrible Sang-ang
|
|||
|
195 contaminated Po-gee. I know of the attacks upon your personage from before,
|
|||
|
196 and feel that I must warn you that the damage from these attacks is
|
|||
|
197 accumulitive. I think it well advised that you take precaution, by wearing
|
|||
|
198 the protective rubber outer-garmet that you are provided with. Another good
|
|||
|
199 solution is to settle down to a more nearly mundain lifestyle, and Yo-bo
|
|||
|
200 yourself out. Beware of the deadly Sang-ang, and know this... It got
|
|||
|
201 Stilly where he lived. Enjoy life safely, by taking minor precaution.
|
|||
|
202 As ever,
|
|||
|
203 **** RHD inc. ****
|
|||
|
204 ########################################
|
|||
|
205 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
|||
|
206 *** To: Dwarf Chight ***
|
|||
|
207 SHAME<, OH SHAME, ON YOU. Keeping your mommy awake 'til so very late last
|
|||
|
208 night, with out so much as a telephone call. Friends to were worried, but
|
|||
|
209 with nodding heads and knowing smiles, we understand completely. You
|
|||
|
210 have stopped thinking with your head with a brain, and have chosen to think
|
|||
|
211 not at all. Ah, LOVE.
|
|||
|
212 Ain't love grand,
|
|||
|
213 **** RHD inc. ****
|
|||
|
214
|
|||
|
215 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
|||
|
216 I NOTE WITH INTREST THE VARIED ATTEMPTS AT ART. SOME ARE GOOD SOME ARE LESS
|
|||
|
217 THAN GOOD. WOWEVER ONE THOUGHT CONTINUES TO CROSS MY MIND
|
|||
|
218 CONNOT THESE PEOPLE AFFORD TO
|
|||
|
219 RUB OFF THE SERIAL NUMBERS WHEN THEY STEAL SOMEONE ELSES WORK? OR AM I THE
|
|||
|
220 ONLY ONE WHO NOTES STRANGE SIMULARITIES TO PUBLISHED WORKS?
|
|||
|
221
|
|||
|
222 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\marker\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
|
|||
|
223
|
|||
|
224 no.....you aren't alone.......David...
|
|||
|
225 ................>................>..
|
|||
|
226
|
|||
|
227 .......................................
|
|||
|
228 darn it...I knew once I got in this
|
|||
|
229 separate reality it would be extremely
|
|||
|
230 difficult to find the door out I had
|
|||
|
231 enter in. And on this adventure there
|
|||
|
232 was no Guru...No Bagwhan Shree Rajanyone to help traverse this trail.
|
|||
|
233 What does one do when Sheela's gone?
|
|||
|
234
|
|||
|
235
|
|||
|
236 //OFF
|
|||
|
237
|
|||
|
238 /off
|
|||
|
239 don't you wish I could remember the magic incantation that would remove
|
|||
|
240 POINT-COUNTERPOINT
|
|||
|
241
|
|||
|
242 Point:The alarming rise in affairs of young women with older men.
|
|||
|
243
|
|||
|
244 What is this scourge that is crossing the nation's singles hangouts,
|
|||
|
245 bars, and bedrooms? We have all seen the sight. The young, attractive,
|
|||
|
246 vibrant woman accompanied, no possessed, by a Svengali-like old man of
|
|||
|
247 uestionable merit and honor. What induces these women to fall for such
|
|||
|
248 human fossils? Is this phenomenon indicative of our society? Are these
|
|||
|
249 young women seeking irregular relationships because they are unfull-
|
|||
|
250 filled with conventional dating and interpersonal patterns? Let's take
|
|||
|
251 a closer look at some of the ingredients to this sickening cornucopia
|
|||
|
252 we have cooked up for ourselves, and examine some of the common reasons
|
|||
|
253 given for these actions.
|
|||
|
254
|
|||
|
255 "It is purely physical." Of course, and as we all know the male of the
|
|||
|
256 species is at his sexual peak in his late teens-very early twenties.
|
|||
|
257 It is a law of nature that from beyond that time frame the physical
|
|||
|
258 sexual performance will never be considered, for lack of a better
|
|||
|
259 term, as adept. Experience must remain as the sole rationalization,
|
|||
|
260 and even that criteria must be examined carefully in order not to
|
|||
|
261 over-emphasize its importance.
|
|||
|
262
|
|||
|
263 "He's much more well-to-do that men my age." We see here the importance
|
|||
|
264 of financial means over physical and emotional designs. In one word,
|
|||
|
265 Money. Dollars and cents over-ride common sense, and men are chosen
|
|||
|
266 based on the amount of material wealth they possess, regardless of
|
|||
|
267 their other negative attributes. This bodes well for the conventional
|
|||
|
268 SugerDaddy-seeking young woman who places social stature and worldly
|
|||
|
269 goods above all else.
|
|||
|
270
|
|||
|
271 "He can teach me so much about life." Life is not some classroom to
|
|||
|
272 be set in and lectured about. Life is the extreme form of one-the-
|
|||
|
273 job training. It must be experienced for one's self, not taught
|
|||
|
274 like a subject next to Biology 101 and Algebra. If these women
|
|||
|
275 seek teachers of Life rather than partners to experience Life with
|
|||
|
276 perhaps the path they have chosen is the correct one. It seems a
|
|||
|
277 terrible waste to atrophy the Life experience by depending on
|
|||
|
278 another person's interpretation of the world.
|
|||
|
279
|
|||
|
280 "He reminds me of my Father." Apparently males are not alone with their
|
|||
|
281 alleged mother-complexes. Females have a complementary complex with their
|
|||
|
282 fathers. Of course this is the only conclusion that could be reached
|
|||
|
283 after hearing a great deal of testimony on the subject. Young women are
|
|||
|
284 seeking replacements for their fathers, who are always the first big
|
|||
|
285 love of a young girl. These older lovers are merely playing a part
|
|||
|
286 for a young woman who always wondered "What it would be like."
|
|||
|
287
|
|||
|
288 The evidence is overwhelming. The proof is very clear. The causes
|
|||
|
289 of this growing practice is apparent. The big question remains, What
|
|||
|
290 can be done about it? Is there any hope for the future with such a
|
|||
|
291 downward spiral of evolutionary relationships?
|
|||
|
292
|
|||
|
293 POINT-COUNTERPOINT
|
|||
|
294
|
|||
|
295
|
|||
|
296
|
|||
|
297 :::::=====:::::=====
|
|||
|
298 What was that all about?
|
|||
|
299 :::::=====:::::
|
|||
|
300 Darbon: I was hurried off the system last night by parents needing to use
|
|||
|
301 phone. I shall now try to rwrite what I had intended....
|
|||
|
302 :::::=====:::::
|
|||
|
303 Suddenly, the door creaked open and a sxaft of light fell upon me. My
|
|||
|
304 sleepy eyes made the picture before me very fuzzy, but soon it was clear.
|
|||
|
305 A man it was, tall and slim. He was wearing a seeming cross between
|
|||
|
306 Roman and modern garb, and on his shirt (tunic/shirt, actually) was the
|
|||
|
307 symbol: DARBON. In his hand was a small feather/pen and a scroll, and ,
|
|||
|
308 even as he entered, he was writing on it. The people seemed to know him, so
|
|||
|
309 I guessed that he had been there before. He sat down near my table and
|
|||
|
310 asked another person something, though I couldn't make it out. Then he gave
|
|||
|
311 the scroll to the other person who began to read it. He smiled and handed
|
|||
|
312 it back. It was then that Darbon noticed the small bunny rabbit that
|
|||
|
313 was eyeing his scroll curiously (me)....
|
|||
|
314 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::
|
|||
|
315 .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
|
|||
|
316 To ///Marker/// and David: Innuendo is unbecoming. If you truly see a rela-
|
|||
|
317 tionship, please specify the individual responsible and the work to which you
|
|||
|
318 refer. Otherwise we must conclude you don't know what you're talking about.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
319 To Point-Counterpoint: Well, we see your point. Where's the counterpoint? An
|
|||
|
320 article with that sort of designation should include both sides of a specifc
|
|||
|
321 argument. By the way, you might start by realizing that those older men also
|
|||
|
322 probably don't spend great amounts of time pawing, grabbing, poking, ogling,
|
|||
|
323 and manipulating the women. Sometimes it nice to be with someone that just
|
|||
|
324 wants to enjoy your company rather than looking for a way to relieve sexual and
|
|||
|
325 hormonal pressures. Besides, you
|
|||
|
326 shouldn't assume that every time you see a young woman with an older man that
|
|||
|
327 this is a May/December romance. Unless that's the way your mind works.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
328 .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.Shana Alexander.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
|
|||
|
329 Point-Counterpoint: You mentioned something about be the men being more
|
|||
|
330 sexually experienced. I'll put in another little bit about sex drive.
|
|||
|
331 A man's sex drive tends to start going down after 18, not real rapidly,
|
|||
|
332 but by the time they are forty or what not many (now don't jump on me,
|
|||
|
333 I didn't say ALL) don't have as much left. Getting around sixty, many
|
|||
|
334 don't have anything but talk. Nevertheless, whether or not they do have
|
|||
|
335 a considerable one or not, it is usually far less than they did in their
|
|||
|
336 late teens. Women often don't reach their sexual peek until they are thirty,
|
|||
|
337 maybe even forty. You can see, how a young woman might be better suited
|
|||
|
338 for an older man on just that basis. Now why are so many young men out
|
|||
|
339 with older women? Is that suppose to be an Edipus-complex or the reverse
|
|||
|
340 of this theory?
|
|||
|
341 (((*)))(((*)))((( RIPPLE )))(((*)))(((*)))
|
|||
|
342
|
|||
|
343
|
|||
|
344 Point-CounterPoint: a waste of space
|
|||
|
345
|
|||
|
346 above: ditto to you
|
|||
|
347 Zepher: you don't understand? Should you
|
|||
|
348 understand? Heck, what do rabits know an
|
|||
|
349 yway?
|
|||
|
350 exit
|
|||
|
351 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|||
|
352 Have you ever considered that the one thing that an older man can offer
|
|||
|
353 is love? Not physical love, but love in total, caring about the woman as
|
|||
|
354 something other than a sexual object to be conquered. Perhaps this is
|
|||
|
355 what draws them, something they don't receive from the typical minuteman jock.
|
|||
|
356 Then again, who really knows, probably there is no one reason, but rather many.
|
|||
|
357 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| fred ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|||
|
358
|
|||
|
359 Could it simply be that the young jocks are just jealous?
|
|||
|
360 =================================================================
|
|||
|
361 ***** tTo: Dr. Stew *****
|
|||
|
362 The number that you gave me is in error. All that I get is a NO CARRIER
|
|||
|
363 If I go dirrect, I get a YOU HAVE REACHED A NUMBER THAT IS NO LONGER IN S
|
|||
|
364 SERVICE, PLEASE CONSULT YOUR DIRRECTORY message. What gives? I need the
|
|||
|
365 real poop right away.
|
|||
|
366 ***** From: RHD inc. *****
|
|||
|
367 ********************************************************************************
|
|||
|
368 point-counterpoint: sounds like a personal problem to me, don't you
|
|||
|
369 want a nice young gal hanging around your shoulders when your 60? Start
|
|||
|
370 working on what you can do to attract them.
|
|||
|
371 ****************************************kathyd**********************************
|
|||
|
372 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|||
|
373 I agree with Kathy, and like her spirit!
|
|||
|
374 *** RHD inc. ***
|
|||
|
375 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|||
|
376 [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/]
|
|||
|
377 every person had requirement that they want the relationships in their
|
|||
|
378 life to meet. whether they be spiritual, physical, monetary, social, sexual
|
|||
|
379 of whatever else my appeal to them, it is their own business. the only real
|
|||
|
380 motive for POINT's little monologue seems to be jealousy. why anyone would
|
|||
|
381 restrict themselves to any one age group is beyond me, but that is, after all
|
|||
|
382 their own business. i can't expect them to think like me.
|
|||
|
383 things seem to be pretty much equal, at least to me. i see like numbers of
|
|||
|
384 younger men with older women, even more so now that popular thinking seems to
|
|||
|
385 be less critical of it. i have on a number of occasions BEEN the younger man,
|
|||
|
386 i know of what i speak. mose of the women i have found to be attractive have
|
|||
|
387 (at least in recent years) been ten to fifteen years older that my own twenty-
|
|||
|
388 five years. social pressures are lessoning, but are still VERY real in these
|
|||
|
389 situations. the opposite situation is much more axcepted in the eyes of the
|
|||
|
390 public, something that POINT observed himself, if memory serves me.
|
|||
|
391 [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] [/] THE TIN MAN [/] [/]
|
|||
|
392 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+-
|
|||
|
393 On the ground before me lies a small masterpiece. The media used to
|
|||
|
394 create this display was a mere patch of sand at the bank of a quietly flow-
|
|||
|
395 ing current. The imagery was drawn with a small fallen limb of a near-by
|
|||
|
396 tree. Sand is usually a pretty good media for those that wish to just draw
|
|||
|
397 for drawing's sake. In this case I would look at it and wish that it could
|
|||
|
398 have been oil and canvas. Maybe someday that chance shall come.
|
|||
|
399 "What about that part over there?" I ask. I know she'd seen me as I
|
|||
|
400 approached for she motioned me to come closer. She didn't quite understand
|
|||
|
401 what I had asked.
|
|||
|
402 "Yes? What part? Oh, I see." As she had finished a portion of an-
|
|||
|
403 other section of the drawing she had accidentally brushed away some signif-
|
|||
|
404 icant detail made elsewhere. "That should do it. Does that make it look
|
|||
|
405 any better?"
|
|||
|
406 "Oh yes, very much so. That's really a... unique drawing you've made
|
|||
|
407 for yourself," I add. "Is that figure in the center to be a knight?"
|
|||
|
408 "A knight I guess. Or maybe just the empty shell of a suit of armor.
|
|||
|
409 It all depends on what you want it to be... But the drawing isn't just for
|
|||
|
410 me to look at. They're for anybody that wants them."
|
|||
|
411 "Anybody? Then why do you wipe them away when you are finished?
|
|||
|
412 Wouldn't you care for others to see them? They are good you know, I find
|
|||
|
413 this one quite interesting personally." She heard what I had said but only
|
|||
|
414 smiled. She then looked back at the sand, I continued. "You have saved
|
|||
|
415 some of what you've done, haven't you? On parchment, or maybe even paper?"
|
|||
|
416 "Saved? On parchment?" She giggled. "Don't be silly, that's for
|
|||
|
417 people that are really good at it." Then she had a sparkle in her eye.
|
|||
|
418 "Why, do you know that I've seen a drawing of a Dragon once? It was mar-
|
|||
|
419 velous! But I only try to draw that well. I know my limits. I'm not that
|
|||
|
420 good yet... But I will be!" Slowly my head began to nod in agreement.
|
|||
|
421 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+-
|
|||
|
422 Ripple: What we've discussed about writing was only a small portion. Do
|
|||
|
423 not do as I have done, don't knock what you've done. Only by build-
|
|||
|
424 ing may the individual reach the final construction. Some skills are
|
|||
|
425 slow to develop, but do they ever make you feel good once you have
|
|||
|
426 developed! (I'll have more on the morrow.) (Call.)
|
|||
|
427 (Counter)Point: Yes, what about something that Ripple pointed out? Some-
|
|||
|
428 thing about us younger(?) men seeking/saught by older(?) women?
|
|||
|
429
|
|||
|
One should be cautious with there definitions of older and younger though.
|
|||
|
430 Ratios seem to stick in some people's minds, and a couple of years can make
|
|||
|
431 all the difference in the world! (Yowza!)
|
|||
|
432 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -JUGGLER- -+- -+-
|
|||
|
433
|
|||
|
434 *********************************************************************************
|
|||
|
435 The old woman sat at her table, her eyes held a glazed look as her mind s
|
|||
|
436 searched the universe for Alex. Alex, Leo and Ontho had left headquarters
|
|||
|
437 months ago to aid in the pinpointing of radio transmissions that seemed to
|
|||
|
438 be orginating near the planet Pluto. Since then communications ceased and
|
|||
|
439 several spaceships had mysteriously fanished, among them "the great guaran".
|
|||
|
440 A strange name for a ship the old woman had once remarked. Leo in her
|
|||
|
441 boundless energy explained that "Guaran" was a shortened version of
|
|||
|
442 "Guarantee" A seal of quality, great courage and faith. With spunk like
|
|||
|
443 that nothing could hold her back muzed the old woman as Leo inspected the
|
|||
|
444 ship.
|
|||
|
445 Many of the elders worried little for the trio, knowing Alex's talents
|
|||
|
446 would ensure their safty dispite how much Ontho got in the way. The old
|
|||
|
447 was not among those, as leader she liked to know what her troups were up
|
|||
|
448 to. So long and no reports makes any sargent uneasy. She closed her eyes
|
|||
|
449 and leaned back on her chair. "Oh where, oh where has my little Alex gone,
|
|||
|
450 Oh where, oh where can he be"
|
|||
|
451 ***************************kathyd***********************************************
|
|||
|
452 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
|
|||
|
453 Let's consider, for a moment, what is known of the young woman laying
|
|||
|
454 wounded within a compartment of the pell-mell. She had been on the strange
|
|||
|
455 black plain when the piper arrived there, and seemed to have some knowlege
|
|||
|
456 of both the properties of the area and how she had arrived there. She
|
|||
|
457 told the piper "you can call me ZEB", betraying some knowlege of the
|
|||
|
458 pell-mell, if not its owner. Even stranger, she claimed to be an inhabitant
|
|||
|
459 of a reality of reversed entropy -- one in which the arrow of time moves
|
|||
|
460 in the opposite direction.
|
|||
|
461 Her wound is self-inflicted. She and the piper had agreed that the
|
|||
|
462 destruction caused by their continued existence made it necessary to
|
|||
|
463 terminate that existence. She had attempted to plunge a small knife,
|
|||
|
464 taken from a sheath in the top of one of the piper's stockings, into her
|
|||
|
465 heart. She had been deflected in this aim by the piper, who (through
|
|||
|
466 cowardace? compassion? hunch?) intercepted her deadly aim and recieved
|
|||
|
467 a freely-bleeding wound on one arm. The mingled blood from the two caused
|
|||
|
468 some strange breach in the reality plane beneath them and rescue was
|
|||
|
469 soon accomplished by the piper's companions.
|
|||
|
470 But what of the person behind these actions? How did this young woman
|
|||
|
471 gain the knowlege that she obviously had, if not about Trainor, at least
|
|||
|
472 about his terminology? What kind of person is this woman, and who is
|
|||
|
473 she? How did she get where she was, and how long had she been there?
|
|||
|
474 These are all vital questions to the adventurers, questions that only
|
|||
|
475 one person can answer, and she cannot be asked. Even the lesser choice,
|
|||
|
476 qestioning the piper, is not possible as he is slumped unconcious while
|
|||
|
477 the events go on around the pell-mell. Only the lady Tayree has the
|
|||
|
478 necessary combination of skills and gender to make the perilous voyage
|
|||
|
479 into the unkown inner world of this strange person.
|
|||
|
480 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
|
|||
|
481 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\marker II\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
|
|||
|
482 Shana Alexander: While the marker was mine, the words above were not. When I
|
|||
|
483 have something to say, I use two (2) borders. Okay?
|
|||
|
484 \\\\\\\\\\\\\innocent marker, saying nothing...\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
|
|||
|
485
|
|||
|
486 I am shocked by the lack of considerate thought this experiment
|
|||
|
487 received here. While some of the written material was constructive
|
|||
|
488 criticism, there was also a great deal of personal attacks and
|
|||
|
489 insults. If this is how kathy and others respond to an attempt
|
|||
|
490 at a debate, no wonder this board has been so devoid of clear
|
|||
|
491 non-combative discussion for so long.
|
|||
|
492
|
|||
|
493
|
|||
|
494 COUNTERPOINT-POINT
|
|||
|
495
|
|||
|
496 As was nicely pointed out by Ripple, Tin Man, and others, society
|
|||
|
497 seems much more suspect of the Older woman-younger man relationship. This
|
|||
|
498 appears to be another case of inequity and lack of understanding in our
|
|||
|
499 society. An older man-young woman is considered normal, and in some cases,
|
|||
|
500 very macho, while the older woman with a younger man is accused of
|
|||
|
501 robbing the cradle and the younger man is accused of weakness for his
|
|||
|
502 lack in finding someone his own age. Why must we always impress our
|
|||
|
503 own moral and ethical standards on others that see fit not to follow
|
|||
|
504 our examples? Why is such a stigma attached to the older woman-younger
|
|||
|
505 man couple but not the converse? Why should age be such a determinant
|
|||
|
506 factor at all?
|
|||
|
507 The biological facts previously mentioned are quite true. Males
|
|||
|
508 reach their sexual peak in their late teens and early twenties. For
|
|||
|
509 females, this peak comes much later in life. As far as physical grouping
|
|||
|
510 goes, it seems only natural that the peaking males and females be
|
|||
|
511 matched up. In a biological sense, this is true, but what about the
|
|||
|
512 more important emotional sense. There is more to a relationship than
|
|||
|
513 physical involvement. In the ideal relationship, sex should not play
|
|||
|
514 the leading role, but it should not be ignored either.
|
|||
|
515 Our society has been based on the teacher-student model of learning.
|
|||
|
516 My opponent pointed out that life should not be taught, it should be
|
|||
|
517 experienced. While in essence this may be true, experience can also
|
|||
|
518 be transferred from the teacher, in this case an older experienced mature
|
|||
|
519 woman, to the student, a willing, able learner who seeks the knowledge
|
|||
|
520 and joy the other can give. Older generations will always pass on what
|
|||
|
521 they have learned to younger generations. There is no natural law that
|
|||
|
522 says this passing can not involve emotional and sexual ties. The
|
|||
|
523 bond between two lovers is the strongest and most complete bond that
|
|||
|
524 exists for the transfer of information. The minds and hearts of two
|
|||
|
525 people in love are on one plain, and this singularity of purpose
|
|||
|
526 induces teaching and learning of far more lasting effect than any
|
|||
|
527 other method.
|
|||
|
528 The most important thing for us to learn is that judgmental
|
|||
|
529 characters are a constant thorn in the side of society. In as much
|
|||
|
530 as we are all adept at jumping to conclusions and flying off the
|
|||
|
531 handle, we should really find other modes of exercise.
|
|||
|
532
|
|||
|
533 COUNTER POINT-POINT
|
|||
|
534 ###############
|
|||
|
535 ###############
|
|||
|
536 And the peanut fell from the loftiness of the cloud.
|
|||
|
537 It whooshed through the air heading straight down. Through
|
|||
|
538 the storms and pollution and smog. It left the white of clouds
|
|||
|
539 and the pollution of the city. It sank faster than an elevator
|
|||
|
540 towards the depths of the horizon.
|
|||
|
541 It came down towards the green of squared off plains.
|
|||
|
542 A slowly meandering river wound its way through the gently
|
|||
|
543 rolling hills off to one side. As it sped toward the ground,
|
|||
|
544 the river fell further away. The peanut saw the ground
|
|||
|
545 and fell through. A small hole marked the remains of the flight.
|
|||
|
546 ##########################################################Palor######
|
|||
|
547 ;';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';
|
|||
|
548 POINT-COUNTERPOINT: AGE ALL TOO OFTEN HAS LITTLE TO WITH THE SITUATION.
|
|||
|
549 I SPEAK FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. I AM 27 WHILE MY LADY FRIEND IS 36.
|
|||
|
550 WHAT IT IS REALLY ABOUT IS FRIENDSHIP. I FOUND IN MANY CASES, A PERSON
|
|||
|
551 OF THE FEMALE PERSUASION WHO ALSO MATCHED MY AGE ALL TOO OFTEN WAS MORE
|
|||
|
552 CONCERNED ABOUT HER MAKEUP, MY CAR OR MY BANK BALANCE. I ALSO, AT TIMES
|
|||
|
553 FEEL A LITTLE MORE MATURE THAN MY AGE WOULD HAVE ME BE. SUCH IS LIFE.
|
|||
|
554 I THEREFORE FEEL THAT THE CONCERN OVER AGE GROUPS IS UNWARRANTED. IT'S
|
|||
|
555 WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY AND COMFORTABLE THAT COUNTS, NOT WHAT OTHERS WANT
|
|||
|
556 FOR YOU. AND BY THE BY, MY MOM DOESN'T THINK THE CRADLE HAS BEEN, AHEM!
|
|||
|
557 ROBBED. BEST WISHES AND CONTINUED LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH.
|
|||
|
558 ;';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';FINI FIN;';';';';;';';';';';';';';';';
|
|||
|
559 :-]Max[-:
|
|||
|
560 ((( RIPPLE )))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))
|
|||
|
561
|
|||
|
562 We learn something from everything we do. Even if what we learn is
|
|||
|
563 that we never want to do it again. I have many male friends and many
|
|||
|
564 of them are younger than me. But I believe that the friendship you
|
|||
|
565 build with them is more important than anything else. The physical
|
|||
|
566 part of a relationship will come if it is supposed to, but it is not
|
|||
|
567 really something I impatiently wait for. It will come maybe but if
|
|||
|
568 not I still know I have a strong relationship that I can count on.
|
|||
|
569 Having someone close that talk to, laugh with, and if need be I know
|
|||
|
570 I can ask for that hug that everyone needs once and a while. TIN MAN
|
|||
|
571 I think you know what I mean.....
|
|||
|
572
|
|||
|
573 (((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))((( RIPPLE )))
|
|||
|
574 :::::=====:::::=====:::::
|
|||
|
575 The small scroll was on the table next to mine. It I tried to paw at
|
|||
|
576 (ch:It I tried/I tried to paw at) it but it was just beyond my reach. DThe
|
|||
|
577 man, Darbon, eyed me curiously. Here, before him, was a small grey and whit
|
|||
|
578 (ch whit/white) rabbit, pawing at his most recently written scroll.
|
|||
|
579 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::
|
|||
|
580 WHhereas there have been dozens of reasons of why age is not important,
|
|||
|
581 (all which I think are valid), there are others that lean the other
|
|||
|
582 way. Such is a power-play in a relationship. Many times things can work
|
|||
|
583 out just fine. Often times they don't. Particularly in those relationships
|
|||
|
584 in which the younger party is considered "very" yuong in the eyes of
|
|||
|
585 society. (Say, up to 25). The older person generally has more "life"
|
|||
|
586 experience than the other and often has more control and power over the
|
|||
|
587 relationship. another point .
|
|||
|
588 *%_$*_)@*%_)!*#%)_!*%_)!*%_)!&%_)!&*%)_!&^)_@#^@_)*^@)_*!_)*%@_#)^&@)_*^@)_*
|
|||
|
589 Mikey: Did you upload copylink to CIS yet? I hope my information was useful in your quest for country-wide
|
|||
|
590 distribution. As of today, the adventures had been downloaded 130 times in the two boards (IBM and Tandy).
|
|||
|
591 The money should be rolling in any day now (sigh)
|
|||
|
592 *$_*$*%_)#@%*&#%(&%_!&%!_%&)@_#&%$$$ L'homme sans Parity $$$*$)#*$**@#%*)_@*%)_*^*)_%*@)_%**)_$!*$_)*_)$*!#*$@*$@
|
|||
|
593 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
|
|||
|
594 Anyone present played "Hacker" by Activision? 64, 128, Apple, and Atari
|
|||
|
595 computer owners can now break into their very own private computer system,
|
|||
|
596 and cause absolutely no harm to anyone/thing else. Certain parts resemble
|
|||
|
597 an adventure, others are more like puzzles. Now if I can just remember that
|
|||
|
598 level 4 security clearance code...
|
|||
|
599 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ UNDERGROUND [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 599
|