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MARGIN IS 80
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STATUS: ENTER ONLY
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NUMBER OF LINES: 560
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ******************* REMOVED: 3 AUG 84 **********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 to A. User: The reason you got so much flack, was because of the
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21 50 or so lines of 'this is a test'. BWMS has limitted disk space,
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22 and that is a waste of that space. The testing itself is not a
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23 problem, even I use BWMS for that purpose now and then. As long as
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24 the on line times are held to a minimum, since BWMS is also a
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25 very busy system with lots of users. tying the line for hours,
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26 and or wasting 50 lines of the disk is not considered to be very
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27 polite. To use you own analogy of ham radio, it is in the relm
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28 of throwing a dead carrier on a very busy frequency. Sure you
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29 can do it, but you are ruining it for others. There are more
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30 users out there then just you, so please consider them as well
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31 when you make use of any public system.
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32 So, please clean up after yourself, it is considered to be polite
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33 to do so. If you don't, then expect to get a lot of flack for
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34 making a nusance of yourself. End of lecture.
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35 Thank you
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36 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY **************************
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37 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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38 Mikey - out of curiosity, how come you didn't leave Drive A on 'til
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39 morning? You condensed it sometime between 12:30 and 3:30; the 80 blank
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40 lines probably wouldn't have been totally filled. Now you have a short
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41 file on Drive B. Oh well.
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42 Prometheus Hawthorne - Your entries are getting to be as exciting to read
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43 as MiG's. What new wonders will your stray control characters do to my
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44 poor terminal program? Tell me, if you would--what do YOU see when you use
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45 the control-Q's for your internal borders? All those XON's keep trying to
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46 dump my buffer, which makes for interesting happenings on the CRT.
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47 It's no major problem (I'm not going to shout vulgarities at you), I can
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48 bypass the problem with a few tweaks to my program. Just curious.
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49 The reason you haven't seen me here lately is that I haven't come across anything
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50 interesting to upload. Quizmaster seems slightly more appropriate for the
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51 current state of BackWater than my other personnas now, though.
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52 It's interesting how much we get from appearances. Your short experiment with
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53 lower case gave me a substantially different impression than your usual
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54 upper case. How shallow I am, huh?
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55 ????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ?????????????????????????????????
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56 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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57 Deborah -- nice to hear from you again. Sorry, I missed the concert
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58 in the park... I would have liked to have been able to attend. (Grammarians!
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59 was that a conditional subjunctive??) I am not presently a member of any
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60 pipe and drum band ... if time were to permit I would consider joining
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61 one. The problem that I now face is that the jobs required overflow the
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62 time available to accomplish them. I am now learning Smalltalk-80 on the
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63 new Tektronix AI machine, as well as my way around the operating system and
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64 other pieces of it. (It's a super little machine, by the way. I'd really
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65 like to see a bbs on one -- one megabyte of RAM and a 20mb hard disk give
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66 a lot of room to play!) After Xmas, I may have some time available to
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67 devote to other things.
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68 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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69 Bowing to the lovely lady, the piper (somewhat clumsily, since the
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70 beast still has no repeat function on the keys) leaped aboard his winged
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71 steed to be carried off into a misty and still unexplored realm.
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72 (Yes, this has come to you off a Pegasus -- AKA Tektronix 4404 )
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73 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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74 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ }
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75 A forum, such as this one, is no more or no less than the sum of the opinions
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76 and expressions entered. The person operating the system formulates the
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77 general boundaries and sets the tone. In the case of the Backwater Inn, Cistop
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78 Mikey provides quite a vast latitude. All of this is obvious. Given such a
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79 golden opportunity, it would seem one should feel an obligation to make the
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80 best of it. Very few other places can people exchange diverse ideas and
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81 debate issues, with complete impunity. Perhaps one of the best self tests of
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82 an entry is to ask "Is that something I'd like to read here?". Consideration
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83 for others and a little thought before 'shootis from the lip' is bound to
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84 improve the content and quality.
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85
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86 Laissez-faire - The issue being addressed was in relation to techniques of
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87 understanding rather than acquisition of power. That is indeed another
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88 matter. Knowledge can certainly be used as power but that is perhaps one
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89 of the very minor uses. Someone with *real* strength probably finds little
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90 need to exercise power. Techniques of interaction which result in other
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91 than sum-zero games usually produce more human oriented situations. You
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92 appear to be a person who has given a great deal of consideration to
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93 the process of understanding. Some say that the answer is contained in
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94 the question one asks. If that is *true*, it would seen that the focus of
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95 attention should be on the questions rather than on the answers!
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96 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ }
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97 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?o
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98 To the person commenting on the difference between my spelling and my hardware.
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99 do you not realise the fact that a homebrew modem which throws random control letters and such
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100 is a pain to work with? rather then spend a half hour editing my stuff every day I leave the
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101 line open for others to use. I might mention that you are about 2.5 times older then I am and
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102 have had time to learn the proper spellings for words which you use, I usualy communicate by
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103 talking with people, not typing to them.
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104 A.User:in the course of building my system I used BW quite frequently, but never left 50+ lines
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105 of garbage, niether has Prometheus in testing his new lower case mods.
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106 Quizmaster:I too was shocked at the lower case difference, perhaps I am also shallow in my
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107 ways. Who has the Duophone and when do I get my chance at it? or, shudder, does it WORK?
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108 lets see, x-on dumps buffer so should open it.
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109 MiG
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110 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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111 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ *+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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112 To all the people of this primitive planet-Earth, I salute
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113 you, for your efforts in the Olympic Games!
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114 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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115 YEA QUIZMASTER YOU ARE RELY SHALOW. JUST BECUASE SOME OF
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116 US DONT HAVE LOWER CASE MODIFICATONS, YOU MAKE FUN OF US.
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117 WHY ARE YOU SUCH A JERK. CANT YOU HAVE PATIENTS FOR OTHERS
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118 PROBLEMS. IF YOU SPENT MORE TIME TAKING CARE OF YOUR OWN
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119 BUSSINESS, AND LESS TIME WORRYING ABOUT TOHERS, THINGS
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120 WOULD BE ALOT BETTER. BY THE WAY YOU'RE QUIZES ARE DUMM.
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121 you sure are long winded, sysop!
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122
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123 This is Deloy Graham from Beaverton High School. Sue me.
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124 here
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125 Now is the time for all good me, etc.
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126 Another case of raving twitius delecti
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127 ..........................................................................
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128 Cistop Mikey,
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129 All very true, but for one thing. The long streams of 'THIS IS A TEST'
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130 were NOT done by me. I had 3 short messages in three seperate sessions that
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131 accounted for <> 30 lines. At any given time I wasn't on the board for more
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132 then 5-10 minutes per session. I definitely believe in short online times
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133 with a mininum of wasted space. I do not like being called for something
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134 someone else did.
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135 A. User
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136 ...........................................................................
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137 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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138 I seem to have raised a few hackles. Isn't it fun!
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139 MiG - the Duophone has been uncooperative, and so is now inhabiting that
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140 darker corner of my closet reserved for obnoxious and/or rejected hardware.
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141 Since it is doing me no good there, you are more than welcome to try
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142 your persuasive skills on it.
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143 ????????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ????????????????????????????????
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144 Trivia: the current issue of Scientific American is devoted to Software,
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145 including an article by Nichlaus Wirth. For those of you who think you
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146 know programming.
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147 And for those of you who have wondered if you are really as smart as you
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148 think you are, here's your chance to find out.
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149 MENSA self-tests are available for $8 each from Brewster Gillett,
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150 PO Box 3707, Portland OR 97208. Checks payable to Oregon Mensa.
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151 Are YOU in the top 2% of the population? If your CEEB or SAT is 1300 or
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152 better, you are. Otherwise, take the test and see.
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153 ***************************************************************
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154 TO A. USER: SINCE THE 50+ TEST LINES WERE SIGNED BY A. USER, I MADE
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155 THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT IT WAS YOUR PARTICULAR INPUT. IF IT WASN'T
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156 YOU, THEN THERE OBVIOUSLY IS ANOTHER A. USER OUT THERE. HOWEVER, EITHER
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157 WAY, THE PREVIOUS LECTURE STILL HOLDS TO ALL. PLEASE DON'T WASTE SPACE.
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158 THANK YOU.
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159 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ********************************
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160 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
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161 Ah yes, the ol' Mensa tests again. Yes, you too can prove that you
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162 are one of the top 2% in the country that can get high scores on
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163 a Mensa test. Other then that they don't really prove a whole lot.
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164 Certainly not that you are 'smarter' then the other guy, (unless
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165 you decide to measure smartness as being able to get high scores on
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166 the test.) I have seen high scorers who I wouldn't trust to figure
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167 out how to unscrew a lid, while at the same time, I have seen average
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168 type scorers who could design a better lid to unscrew. There is far
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169 more to life then knowing the answers to a bunch of neat logical
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170 questions. Of course the Mensa people don't particularly feel this
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171 way since they have a vested interest in trumpet blowing.
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172 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) George A. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
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173 .........................................................................
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174 Actually the etiquette required on this and other bulletin boards might
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175 be an interesting topic for discussion. Anyone care to speculate on the
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176 mos that may develop as our culture uses electronic augmentation more and
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177 more? Will we become more physically isolated and less inclined to do
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178 anything about it ( a la 'The Machine Stops')?
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180 A. User
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182 Graham: You are a 'high'school student? Gee, I never would have guessed!. A USER: OK OK ENOUGH ENOUGH
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183 let it pass. OK? You use up more line space rapping about using line space than you used line space.
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184 Sheesh. George A.: right on pal. Mensans are nothing but a bunch of pompous arrogant know-it-all's.
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185 And I'm not saying that just because I failed the tst, either. I'ts true. Just because I failed does
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186 not mean I'm bitter or anything. They really are all snobs. I could have passed, but I was tired when I
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187 took the test, and besides that I have hypoglycemia which makes it hard for me to concentrate---.
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188 Quizmaster: Stop picking on my pal Migguy, or I'll turn you into a toad. (Which species do you prefer?).(yukyuk)
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189 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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190 Would some kind soul that has a valid password on Whispering Pines please
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191 transfer a message for me?
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192
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193 To: Dave Gerton
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194 The information that you are looking for can be found in very ease to
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195 understand form in two books by Don Lancaster. These are 'The Micro
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196 Cookbooks I & II'. They both have a ton of good information on 6502
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197 ML and I certianly recommend them to anyone that is going into ML &
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198 hardware interface.
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199 C. Payton
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200
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201 I do not have a valid password & I need someone to get the message to Dave.
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202 Thanks,
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203 CP
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204 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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205 Mig: Forgive me but I altered your msg slightly. ^S halts the display
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206 on this furshlugginer terminal (luckily there were some ^Q s a bit later)
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207 ________________________________________________________________________________
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208 <+|+> {211} 08310029
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209 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/blather/blather? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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210 ARG! those X-OFF's were for quizmaster! oh well, sorry if they coused any trouble.
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211 Cletus!! How goes the programming at GP?
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212 MiG
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213 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? / /? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ ? ?/ /? ?Rrh567
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217 From Prometheus:The Promethean
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219 Good Morning, EveryOne.
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220 Quizmaster is first; I don't wish for you to haTweak' your terminal. Just give me another invisible character
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221 and I will then switch.
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222 The Control Q's are for a long or short delay; Depending on how confusing I'm feeling that day...
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223 I did not understand from your message how your opinion had changed about me since the first lower case exiriments.
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224 Mayhaps, for the better?
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225
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226 MENSA DETRACTORS; I KNOW TWO OR SO MENSA MEMBERS AND THEY ARE NOT JERKS. IN FACT I ADMIRE ALL THE MENSA MEMBERS I KNOW.
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227 ABOUT MENSA ITSELF; EVERY ONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT IT HAS AGREED THAT A CLUB THAT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE FOUNDED ON THE
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228 SUPERIORITY (ESP. INTELLECTUALLY ) OF IT'S MEMBERS IS GOING TO BE RATHER NARCISSISTIC TO SAY THE LEAST.
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230 A. USER DETRACTORS; FROM WHAT I REMEMBER OF A. USER'S LATEST FULL MESSAGES THEY WERE BETTER AND MORE INTERESTING THAN WHAT
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231 I'VE SEEN OF YOURS.
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233 IGNORED PORSFIS ATTENDEE; DID YOU GO TO THE LEFT FRONT CORNER OF THE ROOM AS YOU COME IN? IF SO THEN MIG SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN
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234 AT LEAST A BOTTLE FROM YOU.
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235 HE HAS A TENDENCY TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW...
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236
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238 ARCHIVISTS NEXT; HOW MUCH OF WHAT DO I BRING TO PORSFIS? I NEED TO KNOW SOON, SO I CAN GET WHATEVER IT IS I AM SUPPOSED TO
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239 BRING.
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241 I THINK I'LL GO WAKE EVERYONE BY SINGING IN THE SHOWER NOW.
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242
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243 PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE SD8408.3
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244 FROM THE DENTHIER... MT0521.0
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247 Time for my ritual apology for tthis message; I am sorry for the alternating UPPER/lower case but I had some difficultie as I
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248
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249 got closer to the end. Prometheus
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250
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251 ##########################################################################################################################
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252 MANY PEOPLE ASSOCIATE SURVIVAL WITH THE ABILITY TO FIND FOOD AND WATER
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253 . THESE,OF CORSE ARE ESSENTIAL TO SUSTAIN LIFE.
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255 RICHARD GRAVES
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256 ############################################################################
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257 Rather a pointless endeavor, no?
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258 "#!$!"#*!$!"#!$!danny darms"#!!$"#!$
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259
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260 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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261 Archivers - I am interested in making a CPM copy. I have a copy
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262 of RDCPM on 8" disks. (Incidentally, I have access
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263 to, not ownership of, 3 Gazelles.) How many disks
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264 will it take ? How much do I pay ? To whom ?
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265
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266 M.M. - True power, as I see it, is the power to know your own
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267 abilities. We are not limiited by anything other than our
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268 own minds. If we can convince ourselves that we have the
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269 right and responsibility to use our minds for whatever
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270 purpose that would further the condition of man as a whole,
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271 we can. The power must not be used in a negative manner,
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272 however, as that unleashes the power of the oppressed in
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273 equal measure. (e.g. Afghanistan under the Russians.)
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274 (I am curious, what is your profession ? If you do not
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275 want to keep it a secret, I would like to know.)
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276
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277 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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278
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279 gggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzllllllllyyyyyyyy
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280 Does anybody have docs to 'Cranston Manor' or 'Ulysses and the Golden Fleece'?
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281 If so I would really appreciate it if I could have them. Just leave them on
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282 the system. I don't think anyone would mind because they would only take up the
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283 space of one of the Ninja's stories(no offence intended just an example).
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284 ggrriizzzzllyy
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285 The Grizzly carefully entered his den. Something didn't smell right. He
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286 went into the large sleeping area expecting the unexpected. The unexpected was
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287 just what he found. In the corner covered with blood stained blankets was what
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288 was left of a small framed man dressed in hiking gear. There was apparent sign
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289 of a struggle. The Grizlies only intentions now were to get the mess cleaned
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290 up and find the other intruder. In the other room he saw the shadow of another
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291 man. This man was much bigger and was clearly injured. Without much thought
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292 The Grizzly raced into the other room only to find himself staring down the
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293 barrel of a gun.
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294 gggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzlllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy
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295 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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296 ddjjbb
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297
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298 Did anybody Know that Hitlers grandmother was a jew?
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299 Boy, talking about bad empresions!
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300 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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301 Prometheus: I don't think you can AFFORD the archives! Aside from about
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302 $5 to cover time & trouble in making the copies, you also have to
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303 supply enough disks for your copy. It currently looks like about
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304 50 Model III disks, so I'd guess about 55-60 CoCo disks!
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305 Mig: I did leave ONE XOFF in the msg....
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306 _____________________________________Leonard__________________________________
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307 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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308 But please!!! How many 8" CPM disks ?
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309 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laz $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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310
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311 %#_%*!#_)*%!_#)*%_(%+_(%+_!(+%#_)*%_)#*%@#)_*@#_)*%@)_#*%@)_%%!)_*%_)@*_)@#*%
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312 Laz: After next Thursday, you will need 36 8" disks. Your cost will be $24.
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313 If you wish to come to the next PCS meeting (check CBBS PCS for details)
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314 you can meet a few of the other archivers there. The 8 inchers go back
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315 to Aaron, so you will have to arrange getting the disks from him.
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316 Leonard: I must talk to you about REAL breaks on a Model 100 used to talk
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317 to a Univac in Denver Co. Please give me a call when you can.
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318 Prom. : If you want hard copy, don't hold your breath. Arrangements need to
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319 be made with Alex for getting hard copies of the archives. The cost
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320 would most likely be somewhere around $20. I don't know if any
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321 additional money will be required for those who want hardcopy. I will
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322 keep you posted as progress is made.
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323 Quizmaster : Your such a controversial fellow. Maybe you would mellow a bit
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324 if you had to spend hours a day working on a Commode 64. I think
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325 I am being punished for some unknown crime. Otherwise why should
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326 I be put through such an ordeal?
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327 )%#@*)_%*@%*)_*^)_@*^)_@*)^_*@#) L'homme sans parity *%#@*_%@)_%#*_)%@_#)%@)#
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328 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*
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329 MiG-
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330 Give me a hint.
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331 CP
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332 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@*@@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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333 ARCHIVISTS; I CAN'T HANDLE DISKS! IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE ON A DISKLESS SYSTEM! I
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334 WON'T HOLD MY BREATH BUT I AM INTERESTED IN ARCHIVES. I WILL WAIT UNTIL A PRINT
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335 -ER IS AVAILABLE, UNTIL THEN I WILL GO SIT IN A CORNER AND ROT OR SOMETHING.
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336 PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE 1984
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337
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338 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/blather/blather/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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339 CP:A hint?!? Oh, well I can't think of any that would not give me away. But I
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340 can remember people doing this to me so I will give a few.
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341 1)R.S. with A.R. presiding.
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342 2)A tree structured BBS system.
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343 Enough?
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344 MiG
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345 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/blather/blather/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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346 1234567890<>ddnm,/>><><>>;;;;;.,/;+++\\\***^^^^/ghhg/gihytuy7ttfttgyuyyyuii
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347 THIS IS A GOVERNMENT COMPUTER. WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU HAVE BENE USING THIS
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348 SYSTEM FOR ILLEGAL DROG SMUGELING.WE WILL BE SENDING GOVERNMENT AGENTS TO
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349 YOUR HOUSE TO ARREST YOU! BYE HAVE A NICE DAY
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350
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351 Drog???
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352 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>>
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353 Migguy- how long one has lived has little to do with their ability to speal
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354 korrektlee. No excuse, Mig! (hyuck hyuck)
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355 Dreamyoucher: If you are out there, please call Lysias. Unknownguy.
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356 COLOECO VISION FOR SALE
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357 PLUS FIVE CARTRIDGES-ZAXXON,DONKEY KONG,DONKEY KONG JR
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358 VENTURE ANF TURBO WITH STEERING WHEEL-$200.00 OR BEST OFFER (WILLING TO BAR
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359 GAIN. CONTACT JASON AT 503-285-xxxx.
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360 THANKS, AND PLEASE TELL HIM WHERE YOU SAW THIS ADD.
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361
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362
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363 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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364 I'm enjoying the exchange between Laissez-faire and the Mesolithic Mathemeti-
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365 cian. It's literate and gentlemanly and they are discussing, not arguing.
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366 M.M.--Your remark about those with real strength not needing to exercise
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367 power reminded me of this quote on a friend's answering machine. "In complete
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368 gentleness there is great strength. In complete strength there is great
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369 gentleness." Boy, it sounds even better when it's not mixed in with "Have a
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370 nice day," and "At the sound of the beep...."
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371 Laz--The comment about power being used in a negative manner unleashing the
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372 power of the oppressed is excellent. Its current exemplar for me is Poland.
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373 The simple stolid part of Polish character that is the germ of cloddish
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374 ethnic jokes is also the quality that resists the most sophisticated propa-
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375 ganda. Again the issue of knowledge and power. Polish jokes notwithstanding,
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376 Poles have a romantic attachment to the intellect. Jan Paderewski, the pianist
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377 and composer was elected prime minister of Poland primarily, it is said,
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378 because the people were grateful for his music in the dark days of WWI. How
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379 much nicer than electing military heroes. How much more effective for har-
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380 nessing intellect to the state than the soviet method.
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381
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382 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ unknown quantity ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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383 P.S. L'Homme---No need to look for unknown crimes. Your known offenses
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384 will probably suffice. The god of computer heaven (that's like dog
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385 heaven where they tell you your pets go when you're little and your
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386 dog gets run over and you feel miseable and helplessand are too dumb
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387 yet to ask shy dogs don't get to go to REAL heaven) the god of computer
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388 heaven has heard what you've said about Commodore 64 and even apples
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389 (not to be confused with eve 'n apples) and is making sure that your life
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390 is going to be one long dog heaven on earth. Hah.
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391 U.Q.
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392 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
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393 MiG-
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394 OK, but the reference to GP is what is confusing .... but wait ...
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395 maybe ....
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396 CP
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397 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*
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398 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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399
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400 A MAGI, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE SEVEN, MAKES AN OBSCENE GESTURE AT YOU AND
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401 SUGGESTS AN ALTERNATE PLACE TO PARK YOUR DAZZLINGLY PINK WHEELBARROW!
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402 YOUR ARE NOT PLEASED !!!!!
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403
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404 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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405 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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406 (I'm carmming in meassages before leaving for the weekend. The other good
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407 topic was the MENSA qualifications. The purpose of using the SAT scores
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408 is supposed to be that although the SAT is an achievement (acquired know-
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409 ledge and skills)test, you would need a certain amount of intelligence
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410 (the capacity measured by INTELLIGENCE test) to get a certain score. (The
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411 SAT people are cautious about making such assertions because they don't
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412 want to be drawn into the race-intelligence fray. They only say there are
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413 correlations.) Anyway, you could have plenty of intelligence and fall
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414 short on the SAT because you lack academic skills (like MiG). So MENSA
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415 accepts lots of other proof & puts out brain teasers and puzzles to test you.
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416 There's a set in this mont's GAMES (the magazine for people who really should
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417 be doing something more constructive with their time.)
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418 But then last term my friend used me as a guinea pig for a course in how to
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419 give INTELLIGENCE tests and the last question on the test was "Who wrote
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420 Faust?" Although I don't remember exactly how I learned the answer (Goethe)
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421 I'm fairly certain it wasn't innate knowledge. So how does this differ
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422 from an achievement test? And how come I do so much better on tests than I
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423 do in real life? As my friend Gray(not MiG) once mournfully remarked as he
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424 surveyed his domicile, a rented garage, "Intelligence isn't necessarily a
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425 survival trait."
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426 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Unknown QuantityZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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427 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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428 This is for the one or two of you who haven't seen it yet:
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429 An Engineer is a man who knows a great deal about very little and
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430 goes along learning more and more about less and less until he knows
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431 practically everything about nothing.
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432 A salesman on the other hand is a man who knows very little about many
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433 things and keeps learning less and less about more and more until he knows
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434 nothing about everything.
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435 A superintendent starts out knowing everything about everything but
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436 ends up knowing nothing about anything due to his association with
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437 engineers and salesmen.
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438
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439 Re: intelligence - intelligence per se is worthless. It's what you
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440 do with it that counts. Most people I know have gone farther with their
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441 average IQs than I have with my exalted 99%ile. It's great for taking tests
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442 (I rarely suffer from test anxiety), but does little to prepare one for
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443 interaction with other human beings. In fact, it sometimes tends to be
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444 a detriment. Unfortunately, it is rare that a person can get to a goal by
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445 test alone. Usually one needs to deal with other people. That's when the
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446 lack of social skills (etc.) becomes apparent.
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447 oops, gotta go... to be continued...
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448 ??????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ????????????????????????????????
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449 <+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>
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450 ELRIC,
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451 WEAR ARE YOU?
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452 ASP
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453 <+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+
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454 The apprentice sighed, ANOTHER new plant! He got up from where he had been
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455 weeding and trudged back to the cottage to find it in the lore books.
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456 Weeding the garden would not be so bad if there were not so MANY different
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457 herbs. If he pulled just ONE plant that BELONGED in the garden...
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458 ..................................the apprentice................................
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459 Bard strode into the room. Seeing the piper he called, "Well met old friend!"
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460 "I've been out gathering new songs"
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461 He ordered a drink and sat for a while talking with piper and other old friends.
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462 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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463 Maids of The Dales (words: Anne Wilson, tune: Roddy McCorley)
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464 Oh see the maids in bridal garb
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465 Who ride with faces wan.
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466 From castle and from Holder's hall
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467 Together, twelve and one.
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468 They ride into a strange new life
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469 But no hope, no hope have they.
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470 For the maids of the Dales go to keep the pact
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471 With the Were Riders today.
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472
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473 At the time of the war against Alizon
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474 A bargain there was made
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475 If the Dalesmen would find thirteen brides
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476 They'd gain the Riders' aid.
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477 Now the war is won, the year has turned
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478 And their word they've not betrayed.
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479 For the maids of the Dales go to keep the pact
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480 With the Were Riders today.
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481
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482 There is never a one of all the maids
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483 More bravely rides today
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484 Than she whose hair is raven-dark
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485 Who was born so far away.
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486 True to her heart, true to her heart
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487 She chose the unknown way --
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488 Gillan rides with the maids to keep the pact
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489 With the Were Riders today.
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490 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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491 You may have read an account of the events in High Halleck that inspired this
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492 song? "The Year of the Unicorn" by Andre Norton?
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493 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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494 I have just upgraded to 1200 baud and need to sell my 300
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495 baud Hayes Smartmodem. It is the external model and needs a cable to
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496 hook it into your system. I've had it for about 1 year and haven't
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497 had a lick of trouble. Price is $150. Leave a message here or
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498 on CBBS. Thanks, John Snell.
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499 <+|+> {521} 09011405
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500 *************************************************************
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501 Intellegence. Just what IS intellegence? Can we measure it with tests?
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502 Can it be learned? Of course we all like to think we are intellegent,
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503 and in fact for self approval we must feel that we are sufficiently
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504 intellegent to live our everday lives. But, what of this superior
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505 intellegence being claimed? Does it make these people better than you?
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506 Well, that all depends on how you want to view it. If you think they
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507 are better then you, then they are. If you don't then they aren't. It
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508 is as simple as that. Everyone likes to feel that they are somehow
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509 important or better then someone else, and this feeling can be derived
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510 from many different sources. For some, the feeling that they are more
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511 intellegent then everyone else by using tests and such is how they
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512 obtain the gratifying feeling. While for others, the ability to be able
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513 to walk through downtown Portland at 2AM unscathed is a much more
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514 important aspect to life. (intellegence doesn't do you much good
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515 with a knife in your gut.) I doubt that the question will ever be
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516 properly answered, simply because of the near impposibilty to measure
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517 such a thing as intellegence. No matter how you try to test it, there
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518 is going to be improper aspects involved for the individual being
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519 tested. I haven't seen the MENSA test that was indicated above, but
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520 I have seen a similar test. It consisted largely of a test involving
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521 pattern recognition. (I.E. A picture of four balls and a cube; which
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522 one doesn't belong) While that may be OK for someone good at pattern
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523 recognition, what about someone who has not developed that particular
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524 talent? Pattern tests are popular as they supposedly indicate your
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525 ability to learn, and thus your IQ. The problem is that they don't
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526 account for the ability or non-ability to perform pattern analysis, or
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527 worse use patterns that are incomprehensible to the individual. (I.E.
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528 in the sequence 18,5,23,147, ,9 what is the missing number.) Your
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529 assuming the individual has an understanding of math and number theory
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530 which is a learned concept. Maybe we should test on survivablity as
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531 was suggested earlier? OK, your put naked on an alien space craft
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532 plumeting out of control towards the Earth. Save yourself. Or, you are
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533 thrown naked in the middle of the Sahara desert with out food water
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534 or shelter. Save yourself. Or, your are thrown naked on a sidewalk
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535 on west burnside at 2AM. Save yourself? (sorry, couldn't help it.)
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536 I have no idea what my IQ is as determined by the current IQ tests.
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537 Not because I fear to take the tests that it might show me to be an
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538 idiot, but rather simply because I don't care. A good IQ score won't
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539 buy you a cup of coffee. For my own satisfaction I do know that I have
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540 above average intellegence in my specific chosen profession (as
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541 determined by the fact that I was in the top 10% of my class) but
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542 that is only useful in that profession. In school I got a B- average
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543 not because I wasn't as smart as others, but rather because I wanted
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544 to learn. So I took harder courses with the full realization that it
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545 would pull my scores down. I feel that I gained much more as a result.
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546 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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547 What's the big deal about walking through downtown at 2 AM? I've done it
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548 hundreds of times. Literally hundreds, having lived there for 8 years.
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549 Upload test. Sending one line.
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550 1 Test line one.Short.
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552 Sending long line now.
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553 2 Test line two.Long. Four years and some months ago our mentors in Austin broug
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554 try next(med) line.2. Line three. Medium. Whether such a CPU so concieved and so
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555 1 Test line one.Short.
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556 nu y
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