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25 GOLLY, A NEW DISK?=========================================
26 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
27 YEP! ANOTHER BLANK EXPANSE STARING AT US. HOPE WE CAN USE IT TO GOOD 
28 ADVANTAGE. NEED SOME REALLY CONTRAVERSIAL STUFF FOR A CHANGE.
29 HOW ABOUT THE "DEBATE-GATE" ISSUE? REAGAN CLAIMS THSAT HE HAD NO IDEA THAT
30 THE NOTES HE HAD WERE FROM CARTER, I WONDER WHAT THE HELL HE THOUGHT THEY 
31 WERE AND IF TRULY HE DIDN'T KNOW, THEN WHAT THE HELL IS A STUPID MAN LIKE
32 THAT DOING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ANYWAY: GUESS THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE
33 OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEING DUPED BY THOSE WITH THE MEGA-BUCKS TO BELIEVE
34 ANYTHING AND EVEN VOTING FOR IT. WE COULD SURE USE SOME GOOD-OL-FASHIONED 
35 HONESTY BACK THERE IN D.C., TO SAY NOTHING OF RIGHT HERE AT HOME.
36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
37 7/3/83-08:02:10
38 THINK ABOUT IT THOUGH..."JUST ANOTHER DUMMY" COULD HAVE BEEN 4
39 Y DOODY!!!
40 *****************PHANTOM REPUBLICAN
41 ---------
42 If it took filching some notes to keep us from another four years of
43 Carter, FINE!  Do it with my complements!
44 ---------
45 JUST THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF GREAT INFLATION
46 AND SUCH...ONLY ONE PROBLEM THOUGH WE STILL GOT THE STUPID
47 UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM....BUT THAT WOULD HAVE COME ALONG ANYWAY
48 WITH CARTER BUDDY.....I THINK REAGAN'S PEOPLE DID ALRIGHT...
49 THEY SAVED US FROM CARTER...AND I COULDN'T VOTE IN 80...GEE...
50 --------------PHANTOM REPUBLICAN
51 ----------
52 Who above dares to use my 10 "-"'s for header and footer! That
53 is a trademark of TRON, not someone else!
54 
55 
56                   Tron
57 ----------
58 *************************************************
59 To the Bruiser: your hypothesis on the good and evil of
60 the nefarious playboy Buddy Rose has some merit of credibility
61 when juxtapositioned with the likes of Darth Vader, and the
62 evil emperor (boo hiss). Perhaps even with the leader of
63 our country. (but all politicians are wiked). It only
64 proves tthat all the world really needs is not love, but
65 BILLIONS and BILLIONS of Carl Sagans...
66 bye for now...
67 +=+=+=+=Shibumi=+=+=+=+
68 ***************************************
69 Don't overlook the logic problem on DB, line 573......What is the BEST
70 answer?  Come back, B.A.D.          			Dave
71 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
72 TO PHANTOM REPUBLICAN: WISH THERE WERE MORE OF YOU OUT THERE, "PHANTOMS" NOT
73 REBULICANS: IF YOU THINK RONNY'S SO GREAT WHYT, I SUGGEST THAT THE LEVEL OF 
74 THIS COUNTRY'S VOTING PUBLIC ARE VERY ILL INNFORMED. BUT THEN WHAT CAN ONE 
75 EXPECT WITH ALL THE INFO WE GET COMING OUT OF MULTINATIONAL CORPS, THAT E
76 EVADE PAYING THEIR TAXESS WHILE HIDING THEIR OBSENE PROFITS IN SWISS BANKS!!
77 
78 **********************************************************************
79 ##########################################################################
80 IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE SAME BASIC PROBLEM WHEN WE START DISCUSSING
81 THE POLITICAL STRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTRY.YOU HAVE SO MANY SPECIAL
82 INTEREST GROUPS PUSHING AND PULLING FOR THEIR CAUSE THAT THE HOLE
83 POINT OF "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE THE GOVERNMENT-EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET
84 SCREWED IN THE END EXCEPT THE ONES WITH ENOUGH MONEY TO INSULATE THEM-
85 SELFS FROM THE HOLE MESS.WHEN THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION STAND UP AND
86 START USING SOME OF THE SENSE THEY WHERE BORN WITH AND THROW ALL THE
87 STUFF THEY SEE ON T.V. AND THE NEWSPAPER OUT THE WINDOW-WE CAN ALL BE
88 INVOLVED OR LET THE SMALL PERCENTAGE MAKE THE DICISIONS FOR US-I SEE
89 IT JUST LIKE A CARD GAME AT THIS POINT-THE HAND IS GOING TO BE CALLED
90 WE ALL SIT AROUND AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE B.S.-WILL LETS GET THE
91 BALL ROLLING REAL F
AST AND TO HECK WITH REAGAN AND HIS STUPID DEBATE
92 PAPERS-THE DEBATE WAS B.S. ANYWAY-IT DIDN'T CHANGE A THING EXCEPT
93 WASTE T.V. PROGRAMING WHEN WE COULD OF HAD A EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAN
94 A BUNCH OF POLITICAL HYPE-THE SMALL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PRESIDENTS
95 THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY LIFE TIME HASN'T BEEN GREAT-JUST A FEW MORE LINES
96 OF BULL TO SATISFY THE MASSES-THEY SEEM TO EAT IT ALL UP-THE BIG NEW
97 ONE THAT'S BEING USED IS----WILL THIS IS THE MESS "WE" THIS ADMINSTRATION
98 CAME INTO OFFICE WITH AND USE IT TO SIDE STEP THE REAL PROBLEMS AT HAND
99  
100 
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102 OFF
103 HI AT......ART I SD.......STILL CAN'T TYPE  BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF
104 I COULD SEND A MESSAGE................
105 
106 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
107     A man swathed in black robes confidently approaches
108 the Inn. As he grows near he is puzzled by the 
109     growing din from within. He cautiously peers through
110  the portal to see why this would be so. In dismay 
111   he finds no one of familar voice from within. As
112   he continues his survey of the patrons within,
113  he finaly spies the Innkeeper in the back at a
114     small table in the corner, his head in his arms,
115  fast asleep despite the din. 
116      The man in the black robes sadly turns away, for
117      the Inn has changed and it is no longer companionable
118    to him. As he slowly trudges back down the road to
119     his abode. A single glistening tear falls to the
120     ground in rememberance of that which once was.
121  For as always, he is
122 +++++++++ the believer ++++ 4 July 1983 ++++ 11:00 AM +++++
123 
124 -----
125 Mayhaps one with soothing tones shall comfort him?
126 -----
127 ----------
128 Reagan's idea about the MX missile (densepac
129 I thought was a stupid idea. TThere is absolutely no way to win
130 a nuclear war. In effect, he was saying that if they fired missiles
131 at us, we'd fire them right back. So, the only alternative is to
132 totally inihalate ourselves, which in turn, screws us up from
133 living any longer. Why don't we just deploy all of our missiles
134 into space and forget about it?
135 
136 
137               Tron
138 ----------
139 ----------
140 Perhaps they don't believe that destroying the enemy
141 is suicide!
142 ----------
143 ---------- Max Grody
144 ---------
145 Tron, I'm only using nine "-"s.  Count'em, nine!!!  Heh heh.
146 ---------
147 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
148    does the Dragon Lady reside here?
149 
150                          Aaron
151 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
152 
153 *******************************************************
154 Yes, Indeed the Lady of Dragons does often pass through
155 this Inn. Perhaps if you call gently and wait patiently
156 she will answer. Have a stought heart for she is a kind
157 and gentle being and will speak with those of like mind
158 fear not! But you must speak or she can't hear you call
159 ***** CISTOP MIKEY ***** 9:33PM **** 4 JULY 83 ********
160 P.S. HAPPY FOURTH!
161 *******************************************************
162 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
163    Dragon Lady:
164         I have read of your plight on
165  CBBS/NW,and I sympathize with you;I
166  too would like to enter the mystical
167  world of pseudonymology.I had seen 
168  references of "fantasy" in your dialog
169  ,do you travese the planes of AD+D,or
170  perchance the SCA? Note that this is 
171  my second trek into BWMS,please forgive
172  my clumsiness.I am, (really!) Aaron
173 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
174 TO ALL THOSE DEMOCRATS...HERE'S WHAT I THINK OF YOU....  IF IT
175 WASN'T FOR ALL THE SOCAIL SPENDING THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE...
176     1) SOCAIL SECURITY TO THOSE NOT OVER 65 (LIKE PAYING KIDS
177        TO GO TO COLLEGE ON SS)
178     2) WELFARE TO THOSE WHO ARE SO STUPID THEY CONTINUOUSLY GET
179        PREGNANT (WOMEN ONLY).  THIS I SEE AS THE ONLY REASON
180        FOR PUBLIC PAID ABORTIONS AND/OR HYSTERECTOMIES
181     3) MONEY FOR PET PROGRAMS (LIKE THE STUDY OF WILD TASMANIAN
182        WOMBAT MATING HABITS).
183     4) MONIES ALLOCATED FOR CONGRESSIONAL PAY RAISES (MOSTLY
184        DEMOCRATIC SPONSERED MEASURES), AND FOR NIFTY LITTLE
185        TRIPS TO FAR OUT OF THE WAY PLACES LIKE EL SALVADOR AND
186        OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU COULD GET YOUR 'BALLS' BLOWN OFF.
187 
188 IN GENERAL YOU GUYS NEED YOUR HEADS WASHED OUT WITH TIDE!
189 ----------PHANTOM REPUBLICAN
190 ^^^^^^^^^^NOTE THE 10 '-'S!  WHO CARES WHOSE TRADEMARK THEY ARE!
191 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 05 Jul 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
192   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   02:06   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
193    The gates open abruptly; the girl, in startled reaction, hastens into
194 their shadow to let the boisterous crowd pass.  One spies her, and with a
195 hoot of derisive laughter, makes a mock bow and continues on his way,
196 roaring.  Flushed with anger at this discourtesy, she does not favor him
197 with a 	word.  She takes a resolute step away from the still-open doorway,
198 but a voice calls her name, spoken mildly and respectfully, and extends an
199 invitation.  A hesitant smile crosses her face, and she opens her mouth as
200 if to speak to the stranger...but she seems inexplictably unsure of how to
201 respond.  He pauses, watching her, melding amiably with the crowd when she
202 does not answer.  So she lingers, a hand gingerly resting on the open door,
203 to observe distant figures make their approach.  A black-berobed gentleman
204 looks somewhat familiar, and the girl shades her eyes the more intently to
205 peer at him.  "Could it be...?"  she murmers, noting his aghast reaction to
206 the speech floating out so loudly from the Inn.  She unconsciously takes
207 another step from behind the door, upon which a livery boy from the Inn
208 notices her.  The child comes running, to breathlessly report:  "A fellow
209 named Aaron has been seeking you, my Lady.  Shall I bring a message back
210 to him?"  At this she smiles, and tousles the child's hair.  "You may..."
211 she replies slowly.  "It seems my friends are indeed here!  Tell the Keeper
212 of the Inn, and Aaron, that I come to sup here this evening.  And would
213 you be so gracious as to tell the Believer that he is missed in the quiet
214 corners of the Inn?"  "I will, my Lady!"  he cried out as he tore off to
215 the Backwater Inn...upon which the girl loosened her cloak, and followed.
216 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     d     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
217 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
218    as I try to identify my wampeter(s),
219   and seek out members of my karass,
220      I am reminded that the hidden
221        is oft in plain sight,
222      and the subtle oft the most
223                   significant.
224 
225  Therefore,I would suggest the hidden
226      and subtle.            Aaron
227 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
228 Possibly the report on wild Tasmanian
229 wombat mating habits was to be applied
230 to low-income federaly supported
231 birth control.              Aa
232 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
233 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++TO PHANTOM REPUBLICAN AND OTHERS OF 
234 THAT "MIND?"
235 
236 YOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT THE BIGGEST ABBUSERS OF THE SYSTEM ARE THE BIG BU
237 BUSINESS CONCERNS. EXXON, MOBIL, DOW, CHASE MANHATTAN & CITICORP,
238 TO NAME JUST A FEW THAT PAY NO TAXES AT ALL AND STILL EXPECT ALL THE PRO
239 PROTECTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR OPPERATIONS ON FOREIGN SOIL, WHILE 
240 THEY ARE EXPORTING JOBS AND BANK ACCOUNTS OVERSEAS. 
241 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THE TAXES I PAY SHOULD STAY HERE AND HELP OUR OWN 
242 BEFORE WE SPEND BILLIONS TO SUPPORT SLAVE LABOR IN CENTRAL AMERICA OR ANY
243 PLACE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. PERHAPS YOU CAN ANSWER A SMALL QUESTION, WHY DO 
244 WE NOT SEE BREAD LINES WHEN THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN? SEEMS EVERY TIME WE ELECT 
245 A REPUBLICAN WE GO INTO RECESSION (DEPRESSION)IE HOOVER,   EISENHOWER,NIXON,
246 FAND NOW "RONNY BABY".
247 I'D 
248 I'D SURE   RATHER HAVE SOME INFLATION WITH A JOB THAN STARVATION AND
249 NO JOBS!!! BUT THEN ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS YOUR OWN   TO HECK
250 WITH EVERYONE ELSE!!
251 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++A DE+
252 A ROOSEVELT DEMOCRAT AND PROUD OF IT
253 
254 ----------
255 To max,
256   Okay, I apologize for coming down so hard on you. Just like
257 to keep my gounds.....
258 To Phantom Republican (Democrat),
259   I wasn't talking to you. You put your name after the 10 dashes
260 which signifies that you are NOT Tron.
261 
262                     Tron
263 -----------
264 Dave? Dave Morgan? I thought you never called this system!!!!
265 -----------
266 To My Roosevelt Democrat Friend....
267    Sure old FDR did a few good things, but all those good things
268 did not bring the US economy out of the depression of the 30's,
269 it was World War II.  Sure we got out of the depression, the
270 hard way.....  Just think, if MRonny didn't start the current
271 troubles...they started in 77 &78.  Give the Republicans 30
272 years control of house/senate and then we can make a judgement.
273 
274    Sure criticize Nixon for Watergate, and Reagan for Debate-
275 gate...I personally think that we should lock Nixon up and
276 throw away the key....but not for Watergate, but for STUPIDITY!!
277 Nixon will still go down as one of our best presidents...
278  
279 Oh well, mutter...mutter..., you'll see if a democrat gets
280 elected in 84!
281 ----------The Phantom Repubblican    5-jul-83
282 MOONY LIVES!
283 ---
284 THE GOOB WANTS THE DARK SIDE!!!
285 ---
286 
287 
288 MY NAME IS MARTY I LIKE TO PARTY AND ILIKE 
289 ??????????????????????????????????????
290 As for poitics:
291 If all the hot air blown by the poiticians over economics was used, we
292 could put Woops back on line, with windmils, but the sad truth is they
293 have almost no control over the economy. They can hurt it, but help it?
294 The record sholws otherwise (and this goes for both D____ and R____.)
295 I must agree with the comment about "give --- 30 years" because it is
296 possible that any "economic policy" would work in time: or, in other
297 words, given time we could work around it. One of the killers of the 
298 economy is uncertainty, and we get plenty of this, every time we seem to
299 have a little trouble, change something. How can a person, or a company
300 plan for the future if he cant't know what it will be? Not that any
301 change, whatever it is will help somebody, but hurt some one else; the
302 game is to try to help your friends. The US would probably run better if
303 we shot every politician after 5 years of politics, and everyone involved
304 supporting him (a lot of power is never seen publicly, it's in the back.)
305 However, the US isn't alone, and the rest of the world would step in when
306 we were headless, and that means you-know-who. We need professional
307 ploiticians. 
308 Now, how do we make government more useful to us, the citizens? Don't say
309 get more political, that is what we are trying to get away from!
310 1. Require totally carrying out of all campaign promises.
311 2. Make this part of his pay: anything not done is not payed for.
312 3. Subtract from his pay twice what he makes outside of government, in 
313 any form, including trusts, increase in value of his property, lecture
314 payments, etc.
315 4.  We are now at a point wher we can actually ask the
316 people what they want, by electronic means, and get this to the pols fast
317 enough for them to use the data. We don't need them to take surveys, just
318 tell them directly. Unfortunately, this requires the teller to know what
319 is going on; if the experts (politicians and their staff0 don't know, what
320 is the chance that the man in the street would? Not a lot.
321 5. In that pamphlet that the state sends out, giving each candidates claims,
322 include a section where each one gives 5 issues, and each candidate must
323 answer these, and the same from all others candidates. And include the
324 voting record of each, if he has one. Maybe we could find out who to vote
325 for.
326 6. Make any lies in a campaign automatic disqualification.
327 ///////////////B.A.D.
328 In the question of the jail: If you take all the alluded hint as facts, 
329 then only one combination works, but facts in jails are not usually true,
330 so unless strictly stated, can not be used as such, leaving much open.
331 Therefore, there is no "correct", or even, to his possible rescuer,
332 useful answer, since an error would probably land her there too. Don't
333 ask for the best: of 10 wrong answers, which is best? Easy:none.
334 Logic only applies to data. GIGO.
335 ////////////////////////////////B.A.D.\\\\\\\\\\\\
336 ...............................
337    In his advanced Theory of Knowledge class at the Academy, that
338 good ol' Professor Plato taught that for every material object on the planet
339 (including the planet itself) there existed in a far off heaven-like realm
340 a perfect IDEA of that particular thing that was eternal, incorruptible,
341 immaterial, and (I'm extrapolating here) non-carcinogenic, rust proof, and
342 warranted for life! Furthermore, these IDEAS are somehow more real than thei
343 manifestations on Earth, which are just shadowy reproductions with the quali
344 of a xeroxed Mona Lisa!
345    This concept of a supreme deity being portrayed as THE GREAT XEROX
346 OPERATOR,
347 who not only runs off copies, but imperfect and faded copies at that,
348 caused me considerable personal anguish, not to mention raising some most
349 disturbing cosmological & theological questions:
350    Are the original IDEAS copyrighted? And if they are, by Whom? And for
351 what duration of time ?(eternity?)
352    Who gets the royalty payments for the reproduced material?
353    Who (or what) built the Xerox Machine-in-the-Sky?
354    And, by implication, was it always there ad infinitum, or was it built
355 ex nihilo?
356    Who services the Machine when it breaks down? (Or runs out of fluid?)
357    And, by extension, who pays for these charges, or are they "taken care
358 of"?, and to whom?
359    Does God own the machine outright, or does he lease it?
360 					**** Peter Paycheck ***
361 Ripped of from the May 1982 Creative Computing
362 ..............................................................
363 
364 ----------
365 Ah! that "Dilitantte" doth fear to engage in debate with someone having
366 things to say, preferring to remain engaged in idle chatter and
367 meaninless banalities!
368 ---------
369 ---------     Max Grody
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371   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   19:03   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
372    What would you say to the Dilettante, O Grody?  She finds no pleasure
373 in vicious battle.  What end is there in that, but wounds on both sides?
374    Aaron Riddlespeaker, refresh your throat with good ale--I would hear
375 your tale and meet your friends.  What subtle thing do you wish to reveal?
376 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     d     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
377 (((((((((((((((((((((((07/05/83))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
378 
379 TO: Bob        From:Art
380 
381 Recieved your most important message.  
382 
383 )))))))))))))))))))))))))(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
384 ***************************************************************
385 Idle chatter? Ahh, what is idle chatter? Speaking of things
386 which are in the past and saying how great it would be if 
387 they were different. This I would call idle chatter! Come..
388 speak of the future not of the past. Remember, tomorrow is
389 the first day of the rest of your life. Do not worry about 
390 changing those things you cannot. Instead strive to do 
391 those things you are able. Be true to yourself!
392 *** CISTOP MIKEY JUST A BIT MIFFED *** 5 JUN 83 *** 11:00 PM ***
393 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
394      the ale is good,and my head is 
395   clearing.many questions to ask,many
396 not to,yet some that
397 are pressing theselves to my tongue are:
398       What is the control character in
399  line 376 that acts mercilessly towards
400  my terminal?What is a Cistop,Mikey?Why
401 does everyone think in such a negative
402 fashion whenever "San Fran" is mentioned?(DL?)The place is not entirely
403 populated with subjects for a new 
404 Masters&Johnson monograph.
405                17 and confused
406                        Aaron
407 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
409 $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$
410 Boo! I'm new!  Are thee ready to accept a new tenant to thoust inn?
411 Do thee have any room for a FEMALE??!!
412 LORI $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$
413 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
414     I ALWAYS have room for females,I
415  think it is safe to assume that 90%
416  of the others users feel the same.
417  Watch out for black-berobed men,though
418                            Aaron
419 <><><><><><><><>02:40 am,jul 6<><><><><>
420     no insult intended,Believer
421 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
424 mikey mikey i tried to turn lf on and off i tried to turn control char
425 on and off but i still get all this stuff on one line
426 wcum?????
427 howcum??? BIll Marx
428 
429 ][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][LL
430 LET US BRING UP SOME "REAL" ARGUMENTS
431 OTHER THAN THEIS IDLE TALK ABOUT POLITICS
432 LONG PAST.  WHAT DO YOU SAY WE GET INTO
433 SOME REALLY HEAVY DISCUSSION,?
434    HOW ABOUT WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE
435 MANUFACTURERS OF "NEW" COMPUTERS THAT
436 ARE REALLY "GOOD".  ALL WE SEE ON THE
437 MARKET THESE DAYS ARE EITHER COPIES OF
438 MACHINES ALREADY ONBEING SOLD, OR NEWER
439 COMPUTERS THAT ARE JUST JUNK!
440    WHAT ABOUT THE CORPORATIONS WHO USED
441 TO MANUFACTURE GOOD EQUIPTTMENT, BUT
442 HAVE TURNED INTO SELLERS OF GARBAGE.
443    FIRST SINCLAIR MARKETED A COMPUTER
444 THAT WAS VERY LOW COST, THEN THEY LET
445 TIMEX PRODUCE IT EVEN CHEAPER, AND LOOK
446 WHAT IT TURNED OUT AS...JUNK!
447 WHO CAN TYPE ON A KEYBOARD THE SIZE OF
448 A WALLET?  APPLE FIRST CAME OUT WITH
449 A FAIRLY GOOD COMPUTER, BUT THEY REALLY
450 NEVER MADE ANY GOOD IMPROVEMENTS, SO
451 EVENTUALLY THEY CAME OUT WITH THE IIE.
452 WHAT IS THIS COMPUTER BUT A CHEAPER
453 REPLICATION OF THE FIRST WITH ITS CHIPS
454 MOVED AROUND? IT DOESN'T EVEN RUN ALL
455 OF THE ]['S SOFTWARE.
456    I THINK THAT THE COMPUTER MARKET IS
457 GOING DOWN THE DRAIN.  THERE ARE 
458 A FEW COMPANYS THAT REMAIN SOLID
459 HOWEVER. (LUCKY FOR US!)
460 
461 [][][[][][][][][ BIT BYTER [][][][][][][]
462 **********'''````********
463 
464   IN REVIEWING THIS SYSTEM FOR THE PAST MONTH, I HAVE OBSERVED SOME 
465 VERY INTERESTING PHENOMENA CONCERNING THE USERS. (OF COURSE, WHAT OTHER
466 PHENOMENA ARE THERE ?)
467   FIRST, it seems as though there are those who simply try to beat
468 a dead horse. That is, they either dwell in a fantasy world of
469 
470 
471 
472 ####################
473 K.L. ARE YOU STILL TESTING TERMINALS
474 ON BWMS.? IF SO , THEN HI TO YOU .
475 
476 
477 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
478 
479 To: Lori
480 
481    Yes, we Do have LOTS of room for Females here. In fact, the
482 guys are usually more boring that Females are.
483    I'm called TRON. Call me that from now on. What kinda terminal
484 are you using? Just curious.... I met a girl skating once and
485 just wondered if it was you. Her name was Lori also.
486 
487                  14 and miffed....
488                        TRON
489 ----------
490 HAas anyone heard the song "EWOK Celebration" by MECO? If so,
491 waddya think of it?
492 ----------
493 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
494 re:Dead Horses
495   if you don't like it,leave it,change
496    it,or ignore it,and if you still
497      feel that some of us are lost in
498        a land of fantasy
499  Take thee a sword of good strength
500    and fine temper,and sever that which
501      fetters thee,thine cord of life
502        of wizard Bell design.
503 
504  No,but seriously,one cannot judge the
505  relative merits of a medium such as
506  BW (nor the mental condition of it's
507  users,for that matter),by examining
508  the content(or apparent lack of it!)
509 of the information exchanged there.
510  In the end,the justification for ANY
511  medium lays in the effect on the 
512 users,and as long information is 
513 exchanged,a mingling of minds,a chance
514 for an insight into the condition of
515 the fellow inhabitants of spaceship
516 earth exists,and in the end,isn't
517 this enough????????
518                        Aaron
519 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
521 -----=====-----
522 HELLO---FIRST TIME ON SYSTEM. JUST TRYING TO ENTER A MEsSAGE WITH NULL
523 NULL TO SAY.  NAME IS DAVE, ALIAS SINGLE GUY (ON COMPUSERVE).  QUESTION
524 QUESTION--HOW DO I LOAD ,OR RATHER DOWNLOAD PROGRAMS INTO
525 MY APPLE.  ANY IDEAS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
526 THANKS---DAVE 
527 NOW HOW DO I GET OUT OF "ENTER"???
528 OFF
529 
530 
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532 TO: ANY VIC USERS (64 OR 20)
533 
534 FROM: ERIK ROGERS  RE:GOOD NEWS!
535 
536 IF ANY OF YOU OUT THERE ARE CURRENTLY
537 USING VIC-20'S OR 64'S THEN I HAVE SOME
538 GOOD NEWS.  I HAVE A TERMINAL PROGRAM
539 THAT I HAVE JUST ABOUT COMPLETED THAT
540 WILL UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD, STORE/RETRIEVE
541 INFORMATION TO/FROM TAPE OR DISK,
542 STREAM MEMORY TO YOUR MODEM, ETC.
543    IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, CHECK OUT THE
544 BIT BUCKET, I HAVE LEFT THREE 
545 CONSECUTIVE MESSAGES ABOUT IT TO VIC
546 USERS WHERE I HAVE DESCRIBED IT IN
547 DETAIL.  IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN 
548 OBTAINING A COPY AFTER IT HAS BEEN
549 TOTALLY TESTED AND REFINED, LEAVE ME
550 A MESSAGE ON THE BIT BUCKET AND I WILL
551 GET A COPY TO YOU WHEN IT IS DONE.
552 
553 PS. I WILL LEAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE
554     BIT BUCKET WHEN IT IS TOTALLY 
555     FINISHED.
556 
557     ===ERIK===
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560 -----
561 Like totally!
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564 The "conversation" in this inn is no debate or real conversation-
565 There is no real presentation of ideas or meeting of minds,
566 only the idle chatter, and manipulative word-play found
567 extensivly in cocktail parties. One could easily find these same
568 words and "conversations" at such a cocktail party.
569 ----------
570 ----------  Max Grody
571 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
572 To Mike Day     Fm Adam Trent      Sj  Deadly Handshake in AMODEM
573 Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try next time I hook the KAYPRO
574 up to the 8 in. system (within a couple weeks).  I'll let you know
575 the results.      I re-read the DOC file on AMODEM and just
576 discovered the CTRL-Y flips me in and out of console logging to the
577 T file.  NEATO!  Didn't know this before--was using MAKE, CLOSE before.
578 What other golden nuggets will time uncover?
579 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$06jul83-2109  -  Adam Trent$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
580 $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$
581 To: Tron      From: Lori      Re:  Skating
582   So, we may have met at a roller rink?  How long ago did this happen?
583 Why are you miffed?  Did the female do something...?!!
584 
585 To:  Aaron     From: Lori     Re:  Black-berobed men
586    May I perhaps ask why to beware?  Glad to know that someone (well, 
587 more than one) willingly accepts me into gracious service of their 
588 gentle abode.                                 LORI
589 $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$ |||| $$$$
590 It's 1:00AM and I just got home I think I'll go crash in my bed....
591 *** 7 JULY 83 *** CISTOP MIKEY ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
592 df