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Public Message
Message # 13 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : STEPHEN SENEKER
From : DAVID GRAHAM
Subject : Re: 8meg upgrade
Date : 94/10/10 08:31:00
Stephen Seneker,
In a message on 5 October, to Warren Hrach, wrote :
SS> Well how can I get one? %-)
SS>
SS> --- QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-5)
SS> * Origin: The Byte Board Bristol, Tn QuickBBS Gamma-5 (1:3642/501)
SS>
Stephen, call me at 405-234-2347. We need to talk anyway.
Thanks!
...
* ATP/OSK 1.40 * What grammar is to speech, logic is to reason
--- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v0.3g
* Origin: The Sierra Hotel! BBS ~ Enid, Oklahoma (405) 242-5332 (1:19/47)
Public Message
Message # 14 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : ALL
From : DAVID GRAHAM
Subject : KWindows Documentation
Date : 94/10/14 15:05:00
I am presently engaged in writing official documentation for the
KWindows system. Users are encouraged to submit notes on their
--- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v0.3g
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Public Message
Message # 15 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : ALL
From : DAVID GRAHAM
Subject : KWindows Docs & comments
Date : 94/10/14 15:11:00
I am presently engaged in writing documentation for KWindows. Users
are encouraged to send comments, bug reports, and notes on what you
have found while playing with KWindows. Please be clear, and note
what version of KWindows you are using , as well as what circumstances
you were working under at the time you made any discoveries you may
have made. This does not guarantee that I'll include any
'undocumented features' you may have found, but will help me to
document more clearly, and to clear up any misunderstandings that may
exist due to the present lack of documentation. Suggestions for
additions are also welcome, and will be submitted to the new Team
KWindows, headed by Boisy Pitre. Thank you !
--- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v0.3g
* Origin: The Sierra Hotel! BBS ~ Enid, Oklahoma (405) 242-5332 (1:19/47)
Public Message
Message # 16 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : ALL
From : DAVID GRAHAM
Subject : MM/1 8 meg upgrades SHIP
Date : 94/10/14 16:47:00
Zack Sessions and David Keefe's 8 meg upgrades shipped today.
A special thanks to these two guys, who supported BHE and the MM/1 by
putting up cash in advance, months ago! 3 more ship within the next 4
days. So for those who haven't ordered yet, when should I ship yours??
;)
--- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v0.3g
* Origin: The Sierra Hotel! BBS ~ Enid, Oklahoma (405) 242-5332 (1:19/47)
Public Message
Message # 17 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : Alan Dages
Subject : Roland MT-32 for sale
Date : 94/10/17 09:21:00
I have a spare Roland MT-32 Multi Timbre Sound Module with manuals
and power supply just sitting around here not getting much use.
I'd like to see it get a good home where it will ge more use.
I'll let it go to the best offer over $200.00 + shipping.
Leave messages here or call me at (404)469-5111 0700 to 2300 Eastern
Time Zone.
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: ACS Inc. BBS 404-636-2991 (1:133/510)
Public Message (Rec)
Message # 19 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Warren Hrach
From : Tim Jones
Subject : dead echo? Nope, alive and well.
Date : 94/10/20 21:55:00
Hello Warren,
Replying to a message of Warren Hrach to Tim Jones:
WH> On Sunday, October 16th, 1994 - Tim Jones WH> Tim,
WH> With the privatization of the MM/1 developers list and cessation
WH> of the cross posting it has been slow. Much is going on however with
WH> the update beta release of windio53 and a new keydrv. Look for a
WH> general release soon. I have a few new files, klogos.lzh (sample
WH> kwindows logos by Joel Hegberg) and the update for UUCP
WH> 'uubb21p1.lzh' which fixes the renews bugs and a few others. BTW
WH> RiBBS_OSK should be in alpha-beta release by weeks end. John A
WH> Donaldson is just about to hatch it. When ready for beta release he
WH> will have available like RiBBS To Go, but on 2 1.44 floppys. I will
WH> probably distribute to those volunteering to beta test. Haven't
WH> decided how I will handle but maybe simplest if a person just sends
WH> 2 formatted floppies in mailer with a few $ for S/H and I will copy
WH> and return. -!- RiBBS v2.10 ! Origin: Ocean Beach BBS
WH> 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Warren, I still follow the privatized news groups and it's great to see things
moving for the MM/1. I'll send you a few disks soon, however I might be able
to get it from John easier, so we'll see <concerning RiBBS-OSK>.
Later,
Tim
tjones@ima.infomail.com
--- FleetStreet 0.95wb
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Public Message
Message # 20 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Tim Jones
From : Warren Hrach
Subject : Re: dead echo? Nope, alive and w
Date : 94/10/22 08:58:49
On Thursday, October 20th, 1994 - Tim Jones wrote:
TJ> Hello Warren,
TJ> Replying to a message of Warren Hrach to Tim Jones:
TJ> Warren, I still follow the privatized news groups and it's great to
TJ> see things moving for the MM/1. I'll send you a few disks soon,
TJ> however I might be able to get it from John easier, so we'll see
TJ> <concerning RiBBS-OSK>.
Tim,
Are you on the MM/1 developers list ?. That is the one closed to
non developers/dealers/programmers.
RE RiBBS_OSK, John got sidetracked a bit when the rains came and
then the river fire. In fact his plant is 1/2 mile from river where a
barge was on fire and his Co. closed down and sent everybody home.
When he does get a working release I don't know if he wants the
bother of sending out disks, keeping track of who has what etc so I have
volunteered to help that way. Also I can adapt the RiBBS docs for the
OSK version and may do that.
Yes thanks to David Graham and a bunch of dedicated developers for
not giving up on the MM/1. David has pulled it together and is now
getting the 9meg upgrade boards out and also new systems.
-Warren Hrach, RiBBS, RiBBS_OSK beta sysop, MM/1 Sales Rep., MM1_TECH
moderator. (warren@ocnbeach.jd.com)
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Public Message (Rec)
Message # 21 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : John A Donaldson
From : William Chapple
Subject : SysCall
Date : 94/10/22 12:49:12
Bill,
^^^^
What I am looking for is the correcceader for the registers used by
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
syscall. What I have is:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TYPE=address D(8),A(8),PC:INTEGER
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
John,
Here is how I setup to call syscall from Microware BASIC:
TYPE registers=d0,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,a0,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,cc:INTEGER
DIM regs:registers
DIM callcode:INTEGER
Notice there are eight data registers and seven address registers, and
following is the CC register. All are integers.
You can check the CC register after you call syscall. I sometimes check
it for any possible errors that may occur during the call...
As for the PC register, its not passed to/from basic and syscall in any
way that the basic program can check it?? Now if you changed PC to CC
in your example above, that would look more like it...
The above is from BASIC's point of view. If you are working on an
assembly language program and want to access the passed registers,
there is a listing of the syscall program in the Microware BASIC version
2.3 user's manual, end of appendix A on page A-19. It should help give
you an idea of how to check for them...
Its something I haven't tried yet on OS9/68k <G>.
Also it says the register pack must be at least 48 bytes in size, for
registers D0 thru A4,but this is incorrect... It would be 52 bytes for
registers d0 thru A4 plus the CC register, or, 8 data registers + 4
address
registers + the CC register Times 4 bytes for each register = 52 bytes.
The Microware BASIC release notes for version 2.3 tellss the above error
and says it should be 52 bytes.
I hope this helps clear things up a little <G>!
The way I check the CD and handle the DTR for now. In the MM/1 tech
manual
it describes how to check the cd and other things for the ports, but not
all info is given! For now all I can do is check the CD and handle DTR
on
port /T0. The MC68901 IC on the processor board provides control
functions
for devices on the board. The following table shows the functions
handled
by the MC68901 and the MC68901 GPDR (General Purpose Data Register) bits
that you can access to get at them:
________________________________________________________________
| 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| KeyBd | Modem | Floppy| Motor | Master|Carrier| Drive | debug |
| IRQ | DTR | IRQ | ON | Slave |Detect | Ready | |
-----------------------------------------------------------------
o Keyboard IRQs can be turned off by masking bit 7, floppy drive IRQs
can
be turned off by setting bit 5 to zero, etc, etc...
o Modem control lines are handled in the same way: You can toggle the
DTR
on port /t0 by setting/resetting bit 6. You can also 'read' the GPDR
to get the status of the above. To check for the CD you would read
the MC68901 GPDR and mask to detect only bit 2. A ZERO means the CD
is high (Got CD). The address of the GPDR on the processor board is
$09ffc01.
This method can be used to check ports /T0 and /T2, but the /T3 and
/T4 ports use the MC68681 DUART, and I don't know the address of the
6-bit input and 8-bit output control ports. I just got a /t3 port and
will be checking it out soon.
I haven't tried port /T2 because its my mouse port, but it should work
by
checking address $0e00381, but bit 0 = CD, bit 1 = DTR, the other bits
control sound mode, SCSI, etc..
/T1 doesn't support CD and DTR.
I have in mind to make a cd watchdog type program that uses the SS_DCoff
and SS_DCon I$Setstt calls, but haven't decided exacly how I want to
handle
it yet. Seems a lot like the ML program you mentioned...
Well, I guess I've talked (typed) enough tech-talk for now <G>. I hope
at least some of this will help you out somewhere!
Now for a quick question - I am trying my hand at C, and it would help
a lot if I had a book on K&R C. Where can I find such a book?
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Public Message (Rec)
Message # 25 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Warren Hrach
From : Brian Steward
Subject : Test Message
Date : 94/10/23 21:54:00
Hi Warren, this is just a test to message to see if I'm getting out. Since
the echo has been turned on, I haven't seen anything come in, so I thought I'd
post a message to see if I can get it kicked in the pants to get it going.
--- FMail/386 0.98a
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Public Message (Rec)
Message # 57 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Warren Hrach
From : Tim Jones
Subject : Re: dead echo? Nope, alive and w
Date : 94/10/24 19:01:00
Hello Warren,
Replying to a message of Warren Hrach to Tim Jones:
WH> Are you on the MM/1 developers list ?. That is the one closed to
WH> non developers/dealers/programmers. RE RiBBS_OSK, John got
Yes, read it. I don't make waves there nor do I distribute any of the info
from it. I do like reading about what is going on with the MM/1.
WH> sidetracked a bit when the rains came and then the river fire.
Yep Houston was a mess. Not that I wish it on anyone, but I'm gald it didn't
get that bad here. I'd have to say that RiBBS_OSK would have to be a real LOW
priority these days...
WH> Yes thanks to David Graham and a bunch of
WH> dedicated developers for not giving up on the MM/1. David has pulled
WH> it together and is now getting the 9meg upgrade boards out and also
Agreed, David seems to have done a great job sparking the forward development
of the MM/1. It's especially nice to see such cooperative efforts among the
"super OSK programmers" in the advancement of K-windows.
Later,
Tim
tjones@ima.infomail.com
--- FleetStreet 0.95wb
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Public Message
Message # 58 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : Tim Jones
Subject : New files in group OSK
Date : 94/10/24 21:16:00
New file arrival on Oct 24, 1994 at 09:16PM:
Area: OSK_TEL
RZSZ3OSK.LZH 69848 RZSZ Zmodem 3.2 for OSK
Received from: 1:382/107
Files are available on these fine OS9CN volunteer BBS':
Golden Coco - Houston, Tx (1:106/941) Terry Goode 713-941-1542
Coco Workshop - Jksnville, Fl (1:112/148) Brian Steward 904-771-4779
ACS BBS Inc - Atlanta, Ga (1:133/510) Newton White 404-636-2991
The Data Stash - Whitelaw, Wi (1:154/888) Kerry Kowalski 414-684-4115
The Coco Exchange - San Diego, Ca (1:202/744) John Reece 619-272-3643
M.T.A.C. BBS - Toronto, On (1:250/610) Ken Patience 416-469-0611
The Coco Library - Honalulu, Hi (1:345/200) John Wight 808-735-3776
The Data Warehouse- Spokane, Wa (1:346/9) Dennis Mott 509-325-6787
Pot O' Gold - Price Geo, Bc (1:359/251) Ken Flanagan 604-564-8869
the Trial Run - Austin, Tx (1:382/107) Tim Jones 512-280-6578
Norm's Place - Mobile, Al (1:3625/464) Norman Rheaume 205-661-5298
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Public Message
Message # 59 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : Tim Jones
Subject : New files in group OSK
Date : 94/10/24 21:18:00
New file arrival on Oct 24, 1994 at 09:18PM:
Area: OSK_UTI
CCHECK.LZH 14707 C code checker for OSK
Received from: 1:382/107
Files are available on these fine OS9CN volunteer BBS':
Golden Coco - Houston, Tx (1:106/941) Terry Goode 713-941-1542
Coco Workshop - Jksnville, Fl (1:112/148) Brian Steward 904-771-4779
ACS BBS Inc - Atlanta, Ga (1:133/510) Newton White 404-636-2991
The Data Stash - Whitelaw, Wi (1:154/888) Kerry Kowalski 414-684-4115
The Coco Exchange - San Diego, Ca (1:202/744) John Reece 619-272-3643
M.T.A.C. BBS - Toronto, On (1:250/610) Ken Patience 416-469-0611
The Coco Library - Honalulu, Hi (1:345/200) John Wight 808-735-3776
The Data Warehouse- Spokane, Wa (1:346/9) Dennis Mott 509-325-6787
Pot O' Gold - Price Geo, Bc (1:359/251) Ken Flanagan 604-564-8869
the Trial Run - Austin, Tx (1:382/107) Tim Jones 512-280-6578
Norm's Place - Mobile, Al (1:3625/464) Norman Rheaume 205-661-5298
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Public Message
Message # 60 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : Tim Jones
Subject : New files in group OSK
Date : 94/10/24 21:18:00
New file arrival on Oct 24, 1994 at 09:18PM:
Area: OSK_UTI
SPEEDISK.LZH 40163 Demo of Brian Whites Speedisk (disk defragmenter)
Received from: 1:382/107
Files are available on these fine OS9CN volunteer BBS':
Golden Coco - Houston, Tx (1:106/941) Terry Goode 713-941-1542
Coco Workshop - Jksnville, Fl (1:112/148) Brian Steward 904-771-4779
ACS BBS Inc - Atlanta, Ga (1:133/510) Newton White 404-636-2991
The Data Stash - Whitelaw, Wi (1:154/888) Kerry Kowalski 414-684-4115
The Coco Exchange - San Diego, Ca (1:202/744) John Reece 619-272-3643
M.T.A.C. BBS - Toronto, On (1:250/610) Ken Patience 416-469-0611
The Coco Library - Honalulu, Hi (1:345/200) John Wight 808-735-3776
The Data Warehouse- Spokane, Wa (1:346/9) Dennis Mott 509-325-6787
Pot O' Gold - Price Geo, Bc (1:359/251) Ken Flanagan 604-564-8869
the Trial Run - Austin, Tx (1:382/107) Tim Jones 512-280-6578
Norm's Place - Mobile, Al (1:3625/464) Norman Rheaume 205-661-5298
--- JunkTick 1.14
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Public Message
Message # 66 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Brian Steward
From : Warren Hrach
Subject : Re: Test Message
Date : 94/10/26 11:07:56
On Sunday, October 23rd, 1994 - Brian Steward wrote:
BS> Hi Warren, this is just a test to message to see if I'm getting out.
BS> Since the echo has been turned on, I haven't seen anything come in,
BS> so I thought I'd post a message to see if I can get it kicked in the
BS> pants to get it going.
Brian,
Are you now solidly located ? I have had go arounds with Brenda
about FD 2.20. She claims there is no new release fixing the timeout
bug. You mentioned it was available a while back, what gives ??
I just tried freq'ng the new osk files from Tim Jones's system and
it hung up before mine could send the xxxxxx.req. Dont know if he
supports freq for OCN OSK files or not. Anyway keep on keying !
BTW The RiBBS_OSK is getting closer and closer.
-Warren
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Public Message
Message # 67 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Tim Jones
From : Warren Hrach
Subject : Re: dead echo? Nope, alive and w
Date : 94/10/26 11:13:09
Tim,
I tried this am to freq the new OSK files you posted where
available. But your system hung up on me. Do I need a session password
or pkt password ?
-Warren
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Public Message
Message # 82 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Brian Steward
From : Tim Jones
Subject : Test Message
Date : 94/10/25 21:26:00
Hello Brian,
Replying to a message of Brian Steward to Warren Hrach:
BS> Hi Warren, this is just a test to message to see if I'm getting
BS> out. Since the echo has been turned on, I haven't seen anything come
BS> in, so I thought I'd post a message to see if I can get it kicked in
BS> the pants to get it going.
You made it at least half way to Warren. I asked about the slowness of this
echo a while back and Warren pointed out the some of the internet message
areas about the MM/1 are not being crossposted here any more.
Later,
Tim
tjones@ima.infomail.com
--- FleetStreet 0.95wb
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Public Message
Message # 110 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Tim Jones
From : John Reece
Subject : Re: New files in group OSK
Date : 94/10/27 08:01:00
We need to make some sort of correction to your distribution notice. I
do not have the OSK files on the Coco Exchange. Since Warren Hrach is
maitaining a library of OSK files on his BBS, and we are in the same
area of the country (San Diego), and I have a limited amount of storage
space (the Coco Exchange is and will stay on a Coco), Warren and I
agreed to this split.
<<< John >>>
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Coco Exchange, San Diego, Ca 619 272-3643 (1:202/617)
Public Message
Message # 131 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : William Chapple
From : Dave Kelly
Subject : SysCall
Date : 94/10/24 17:57:00
WC> Now for a quick question - I am trying my hand at C, and it would
WC> help
WC> a lot if I had a book on K&R C. Where can I find such a book?
The C Programming Language by Kernighan and Ritchie is published by
Prentice-Hall ISBN 0-13-110362-8 (pbk)
ISBN 0-13-110370-9 (hc)
I ordered my through a local book store such as Waltons.
If you don't have it, try to obtain a copy of:
The OS9 Guru by Paul S. Dayan
ISBN 0-9519228-0-7
Publisher Galactic Industrial Limited
Unit 3B
Mountjoy Research Centre
Stockton Road
Durham
DH1 3UR
United Kingdom
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Public Message
Message # 157 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : George Hine
Subject : MM-1 PRINTER P1
Date : 94/10/26 17:17:00
Hi all:
I am looking for information on using both p and p1 ports at the same
time to connect two printers. I have been read that the two ports
will not work together and that only one can be connected at a time.
If anyone has current information or has used this configuration I would
like to know.
I have tried the system with both p and p1 connected and when I try to
use p1 the system locks and must be rebooted. Thanks in advance.
George Hine
--- FLAME v1.1
* Origin: The King's Market BBS (1:104/115)
Public Message
Message # 182 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : All
From : Warren Hrach
Subject : new files
Date : 94/10/29 11:30:08
I just received 3 new files for downloading or freq.
RZSZ3OSK.LZH 69,848 size, New 3.2 version, in the OSK_TEL section.
CCHECK.LZH 14,707 size, C Lan. code checker.
SPEEDISK.LZH 40,163 size, Demo of a disk defragmenter.
Warren-
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
Public Message
Message # 183 *MM1 TECH Echo*
To : Brian Steward
From : Warren Hrach
Subject : RiBBS sources
Date : 94/10/29 11:39:58
Brian,
Thanks for setting up the new files I was looking for. Hope you get
your RiBBS system up again and can check on why my freq has been flaky.
Please check on any sources you may have for RiBBS , namely rlist,
cparslst, bundle and unbundle and menushrink and let me know if
available for John A Donaldson to use with the RiBBS_OSK port. We do
have the orginal basic09 sources for bundle and mailimport.
Warren
--- RiBBS v2.10
* Origin: Ocean Beach BBS 619-224-4878 MM1 TECH moderator (1:202/745)
=*= FIDO ECHO MESSAGES MENU =*=
<1> Scan \
<2> Read > OS9 Echo mail
<3> Leave /
<4> Scan \
<5> Read > CoCo Echo mail
<6> Leave /
<7> Scan \
<8> Read > CoCo_Club Echo mail
<9> Leave /
<A> Scan \
<B> Read > MM1_TECH Echo Mail
<C> Leave /
<G>o back to Main Menu
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