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90420 23-OCT 15:00 General Information
     4 X the typo's
     From: MRUPGRADE    To: BOISY

  Well,, Boisy,, here I am at 9600  (thanks to you of course).
 Now I can leave typo's & mispelled woids <G> 4 times as fast.

  Terry Simons  UPGRADE Editor

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90422 23-OCT 17:49 General Information
     RE: 4 X the typo's (Re: Msg 90420)
     From: BOISY        To: MRUPGRADE

 > Well,, Boisy,, here I am at 9600  (thanks to you of course).
 > Now I can leave typo's & mispelled woids <G> 4 times as fast.
 >
 > Terry Simons  UPGRADE Editor
 >

That's ok, Terry.  So long as you don't leave 4 times the typos, we'll
be ok. :-)
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90421 23-OCT 17:15 General Information
     RE: Shell+ 2.2a bug (Re: Msg 90418)
     From: MMCCLELLAND  To: 01GEN40 (NR)

   My version of Shellplus 2.2a doesn't leave a '.' anywhere when using <ESC>.
Rather, it gives 'ERROR #246'es repeatedly. The only way to break is with a
<CTRL> <ESC> and then a <SHIFT> <ESC> following it. This causes an EOF. Are
you using the SCF that came with Shell+? This seems to be what is causing the
problem in my machine, but using the old SCF is even worse. The new SCF doesn't
let one click the mouse button to unpause text output to a window either, and
the new Shell+ doesn't support logging functions. Someone should inform the
author of these problems.

-=Mark=-

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90423 23-OCT 18:20 General Information
     RE: CD-i (Re: Msg 90416)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: JEJONES

What I really want is a front-loader with the FMV. Is it still made?
Would look nice with my Kenwood stereo system then!

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90440 24-OCT 07:01 General Information
     RE: CD-i (Re: Msg 90423)
     From: JEJONES      To: DSRTFOX (NR)

 > What I really want is a front-loader with the FMV. Is it still made?

You can still get the front-loader and then get the optional FMV cartridge;
I don't know of a front-loader with FMV built in yet...though the GoldStar
player, from what I've read in the magazines, is supposed to have FMV built
in.  (Now, do I remember whether it's front or top loading?  No, I don't.)

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

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90424 23-OCT 18:37 General Information
     Quality Software
     From: MREGC        To: ALL

    If any MM/1 owners, and particularly programmers, haven't downloaded Boisy
Pitre's program LinkUp yet, please do so immediately. This is *exactly* how
MM/1 programs should have been looking over the last 4 years!

    This program has been released as freeware, and yet it puts most other MM/1
programs, including most commercial releases (and, I'm ashamed to admit, the
utilities I've written), to shame.

    This program has set a new standard. Can we match it?

    EXCELLENT work Boisy!

..Eric...

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90425 23-OCT 18:39 General Information
     Help with 1.2MB 5.25"
     From: BOISY        To: ALL

Hi all,

I just purchased a TEAC FD-55GFR 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive for my
MM/1.  I cannot seem to read CoCo OS-9 formatted disks with the
following dmode parameters:

name=c1
 drv=1 stp=3 typ=$24 dns=$01 cyl=40 sid=2 vfy=1 (off) sct=18 t0s=18
 sas=8 ilv=3 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=1 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=0 lun=0
 wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$10
 scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535

When I attempt to read, I get an error #247.  The light comes on and
the drive is apparently trying to read the disk.

I recall hearing discussion that some 5.25" drives use a different
spin rate to read hi-density while others use a different data rate.
While I'm not trying to read a hi-density disk in this case, I wonder
if this drive will work as a 1.2 meg floppy?

Does anyone have any experience with this drive on the MM/1?  I would
appreciate any answers.  If I can't use the drive, I'm taking it back.
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Boisy G. Pitre__    __  __              Delphi:  BOISY
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90432 23-OCT 23:02 General Information
     RE: Help with 1.2MB 5.25" (Re: Msg 90425)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: BOISY


   Boisy,

> I just purchased a TEAC FD-55GFR 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive for my
> MM/1.  I cannot seem to read CoCo OS-9 formatted disks with the
> following dmode parameters:
>
> name=c1
> drv=1 stp=3 typ=$24 dns=$01 cyl=40 sid=2 vfy=1 (off) sct=18 t0s=18
> sas=8 ilv=3 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=1 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=0 lun=0
> wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$10
> scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535
>
> When I attempt to read, I get an error #247.  The light comes on and
> the drive is apparently trying to read the disk.

  Try playing with the `dns' bits above.. like dns=$02 or 3 and
see if that works.  I don't have a 5.25 on the MM/1, just use
the 3.5 to read my old coco 3.5 inch disk...  Hope that helps.

--
   John
        johnbaer@delphi.com    < Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 >
       jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us    "Clipper Chip - Big Brother Inside !"



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90435 24-OCT 01:45 General Information
     RE: Help with 1.2MB 5.25" (Re: Msg 90425)
     From: AJMLFCO      To: BOISY

I can't speak specifically to any OS9 aspects of the 1.2M
5-1/4" drives but I can report that they are nothing but
trouble in MS-DOS systems.  They work fine for reading and
writing in the high density mode (360 RPM, 500 kHz data).
Nothing but trouble, though when trying to be compatable with
the 40 track, 360k disks.  If you can get your hands on a copy of
"Upgrading and Repairing PC's", take a look at chapter 8, where
the author devotes about three pages to explaining the problems.
I don't know what additional problems you may encounter dur
opps - due- to the pecularities of OS9.  I use a 3.5" hd on my
Kix\30 and can transfer easily, in 720k mode, between the Kix
and the CoCo and from the CoCo to MS-Dos using "PCdos".  I
believe the 3.5" is the way to go!

Allen Morgan

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90438 24-OCT 05:42 General Information
     RE: Help with 1.2MB 5.25" (Re: Msg 90425)
     From: EDELMAR      To: BOISY

 Boisy,

 Hi density 5 1/4" drives run at 360 RPM.  To read CoCo disks (or universal
 format disks), you need to change the drive speed to 300 RPM.  So far as
 I know, the only way of doing this is to find the jumpers on the drive and
 strap them - not all drives have jumpers.  The other alternative is to
 find a 360K (or 720k) drive.

 Hi density 3 1/2" drives look for the second hold in the disk to determine
 and set the speed.  Therefore, much easier to write a descriptor for them.

 Ed

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90426 23-OCT 20:00 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90391)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: BOISY

 > Burn:Cycle is not about racing; it's a common misconception.
 >
 > Burn:Cycle is a first person perspective game (like Doom) but with
 > all sorts of mini-movies and a good plot.  You get/put things just
 > like in an adventure game.
 >
 > The game is set in the future where you are a humanoid named Sol Cutter,
 > who has a computer implanted in your brain.  While stealing data from
 > Softech, a software company, a virus gets implanted into your neural
 > computer.  You have two hours to get it out, or your brain will turn
 > to mush.
 >
 > I have to say, it's really cool...  A warning though: this game contains
 > some offensive language, quite a bit of blood and graphic violent scenes,
 > as well as some mild nudity.  I don't think I would recommend it for
 > young kids.
 >
 > That said, it has to be one of the best games of its kind for CD-i.
 >

     Sounds great, I'll be on the lookout for it.


   Dave

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90427 23-OCT 20:00 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90393)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: MITHELEN

 > I LOVE Litil Divil! I'm up to the fourth level now...it is really an
 > entertaining game... I'd like to find a nice fast action shoot 'em up

    What's that one about?

      Dave


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90428 23-OCT 20:00 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90396)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: JOHNREED

 > > Is it like Road Rash? If you don't know what Road Rash is, it's a game
 > > of racing on scenic public highways for A> Big bucks, or B> Big
 > > brusies.
 >
 > ahhhh, memories
 >
 > ----- there I was, sometime in the middle 60's, hustling back from
 > Albequerque NM to San Angelo TX (trying to get back before the
 > First Sergeant at Goodfellow AFB found out I was gone) ---
 >
 > I hit a patch of oil on a curve and the motorcycle squirted out from
 > under me like a watermellon seed.  I found myself travelling down the
 > asphalt on the seat of my pants at about 55mph -- hands out in front,
 > still gripping the missing handlebars -- wondering what happened.
 >
 > THAT, my friend, is ROAD RASH.

     Yipes! I would love to own a motorcycle though.

       Dave

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90429 23-OCT 20:41 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90427)
     From: MITHELEN     To: DIGIGRADE

Litil Divil is kinda a dungeon gam. You are a runt Devil called "Mutt" sent
on a mission to retrieve lost souls from the abyss... There are 6 levels
to work up through, each getting harder as you progress. On each level, you
will find pizza, which is used a curency at the shop on each level to buy
necessary items to complete your quest. There are several doorways on each
level, that require you to complete some task (combat, figure out a puzzle
or a skill type thing) after you "solve" the room, the corridor will open
to another part of the level...

The graphics are of course great, and it has a lot of subtle humor in it. It
is pretty difficult to get killed, but some of the doorways are really
a challange to get past...
--
Paul

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90436 24-OCT 05:04 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90396)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: JOHNREED

OUCH!..i know how THAT feels! how about a dog zigging when he should have
zagged! Dog out with Master<$%#$#$> Master is across street<Calls D-O-G>
as I go BY..D-O-g \/ <under wheel> Me zipping along with NO bike! got up
NO dog No Master! did NOT even check to see if I was Ok!Dog had a chunk taken
out of him! he left a chunk of skin and meat behind!<grin>
mind you I was only going 30mph at the time! WET! Seattle weather!
I had a Honda 450 back then<1981>...........
Dennis

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90439 24-OCT 07:01 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90427)
     From: JEJONES      To: DIGIGRADE

 > > I LOVE Litil Divil! I'm up to the fourth level now...it is really an
 > > entertaining game... I'd like to find a nice fast action shoot 'em up
 >
 > What's that one about?

In *Litil Divil*, you play a demon who's in search of the Mystic Pizza of
Plenty.  (*CDi* says that there's a sequel in the works, in which he's made
it into limbo.)

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

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90441 24-OCT 21:08 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90401)
     From: HAWKSOFT     To: JOHNBAER

John:
 > > That said, it has to be one of the best games of its kind for CD-i.
 >
 > Ok - Ok, I'll put this one on my Christmas wish list..
 > You _really_ know how to get to a guy, don't ya <g>.
 >
 > If you don't cut it out, I'm going to start blabing about
 > `7th Guest'.. There!!!  <Big Grin>.
 >

   Go ahead and blab!! I'll join in! 7th is one twisted puzzle!!!! <G>

                                       Chris

   :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :->  Chris "HAWKSoft"  <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:

        Delphi: HAWKSOFT                   Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM

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90442 24-OCT 22:02 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90441)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: HAWKSOFT (NR)


  Chris,

> Go ahead and blab!! I'll join in! 7th is one twisted puzzle!!!! <G>

  (hehehe) - ONE twisted puzzle ?!  Should I tell them, or do you
want to ?  (Very Big Grin)...

   John -


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90443 25-OCT 01:56 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90406)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: JOHNBAER

 > > I saw the FVM cartirdige...
 >
 > I hope your getting this if you already don't have it.  It's a
 > must have for the CD Movies & the newer games.  By using this hardware
 > I feel that there isn't a computer game that comes close to CDi.

     I agree, 7th Guest must really look bad on the DOS machines. It BLEW
ME AWAY on CDI.

     Doom is nice though.


    Dave

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90444 25-OCT 03:51 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90443)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: DIGIGRADE

easy now! I HAVE that on MY  486  .as far as I can see tis OK! No changes
were made,It was just ported over into other formats! All thou! I have not seen
the CD-I version yet,Have a friend whom has CD-I but don,t have T7G....
anyway the NEW version is OUT!...so I hear!<grin> THAT will be something!
T7g was written for the IBM market long before CD-I came out! and was ported
over when CD-I bwas avalible!.........Tis ONLY the software that changes the
Graphics stay the same!<G>
Dennis

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90445 25-OCT 04:29 General Information
     RE: Burn:Cycle for CD-i (Re: Msg 90444)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: COCOKIWI (NR)


     I just don't think the MS-DOS version could have such hires graphics
and 16 million colors. The FMV is so smooth it looks like your'e watching
one of those "The Mind's Eye" tapes. You need to see it for yourself.


       Dave

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90430 23-OCT 22:02 OSK Applications
     Palm
     From: MRGOOD       To: BOISY

Boisy,

Tried to compile Palm V2.2 today.  I'm having trouble with the termio.c
file.  It gives me lots of errors which appear to be the result
of redundant #includes or #defines.  I'm not much of a C person, so it's
hard to figure out how to fix it.

Also, I had to change #include <string.h> to strings.h.

Suggestions?

Hugo

PS.  This is on an MM1 BTW.


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90433 24-OCT 00:25 OSK Applications
     RE: Palm (Re: Msg 90430)
     From: BOISY        To: MRGOOD

 > Boisy,
 >
 > Tried to compile Palm V2.2 today.  I'm having trouble with the termio.c
 > file.  It gives me lots of errors which appear to be the result
 > of redundant #includes or #defines.  I'm not much of a C person, so it's
 > hard to figure out how to fix it.
 >
 > Also, I had to change #include <string.h> to strings.h.
 >
 > Suggestions?
 >
 > Hugo
 >
 > PS.  This is on an MM1 BTW.
 >

Can you capture the errors to a file? (i.e. make>>>compile.errors) and
mail the file to me?
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Boisy G. Pitre__    __  __              Delphi:  BOISY
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90431 23-OCT 22:30 General Information
     OS-9 Late Night:Reminder
     From: THETAURUS    To: ALL

                       ***OS-9 Late Night***
                         Topic: Open Forum
                       Monday October 24 at 10:00pm Est

        Bring your q's,comments, and ideas. This is free for any OS-
   9/Coco or whatever discussion. I might not be able to make it, because
   I have to work Tuesday morning(covering someones vacation hours), and
   have to be up rather early. I'll try and make for the first half hour
   or so, but if I can't make it, it shouldn't be any big deal. Just
   'talk amongst yourselves'<Linda Rothman mode off<grin>> :-)

        >Chris<

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90434 24-OCT 01:27 OSK Applications
     OS9000
     From: DPHILIPSEN   To: ALL

Any OS9000 users out there? I am working on an OS9000 project that needs
some utilities for it. If you have a port of RSZ for OS9000 or if you
would like to make a few bucks porting RSZ to OS9000 leave me a message.
I could possibly even use a Ymodem program for OS9000. I'm too busy
writing other stuff to work on the communications programs.

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90437 24-OCT 05:42 General Information
     RE: IFF/SND files (Re: Msg 90414)
     From: EDELMAR      To: BOISY

 Boisy,

 > There's a new OSK machine that is really affordable now, BTW. ...

 I believe that announcement may be somewhat incomplete and misleading.

 Bill Wittman has committed to Kreider to sell his boards.  We (Delmar)
 have also been talking to Kreider re his board but are waiting to receive
 the first board for evaluation.  We will be offering it if -

    1) it works properly.
    2) we think there is a market for it.

 > You can then add a graphics card in one of the PC slots to run an
 > OS-9 windowing system.

 Maybe.  It will depend on the gfx card.  Kreider intends to have MGR
 ported to it.  MGR will be the public domain, unsupported version.
 Bringing MGR into the personal market place will simply add another windowing
 system.  What software, etc. will be written and made available for it?

 According to the last conversation I had with him, they hadn't made a
 final selection of the gfx card.  I will probably do a port of G-WINDOWS for
 it regardless of whether I sell the machine or not.  But, it will be
 only for cards using the TSENG LABS ET-4000(xx) chip set.  Also, I don't
 know whether he will write a driver for a video card to permit it to
 run in the native mode (without a windowing package).  I understand a
 port of K-Windows is also planned but this will be a major effort.  I
 suspect availability will fall into the same category as the ports of
 K-Windows for the SYSTEMs IV & V.

 Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO

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90446 25-OCT 15:50 General Information
     RE: Gopher Problems here. (Re: Msg 90415)
     From: GREGL        To: DBREEDING (NR)

For the time being, download binary files with the real FTP software in the
Internet SIG. Presumably Delphi is working on the Gopher problem, but I haven't
heard any response yet. I hope either the problem gets fixed (and soon)
or we get an FTP client in the SIGs.

        -- Greg

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