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21-Mar-92 23:33:12
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Sb: #14680-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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Agreed, Delphi will have the very same interactive mode--but at the price, I
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can deal with it there.
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I've been looking at PRICEFORUM, and a fair number of people seem to be saying
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they'd like at least some forums (those who don't say all forums propose that
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each user choose up to n for some small n to be billed at a flat rate) included
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in a flat rate package. I've said that, too, on PRICEFORUM and via FEEDBACK.
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We'll see what happens, I guess.
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#: 14684 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 07:14:05
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Sb: #14680-#HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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Wayne,
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I have to say I agree in part with what James says. CIS is not making any
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points with members who do not own a Mac or IBM clone by not releasing the
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specs to develop an interactive program. They could at least give some sort of
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license or get a non-disclosure agreement to one or two people in each of the
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forums to develop such a product.
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I've also noticed the membership here getting smaller and smaller over the
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years while Delphi continues to flourish, mostly because of the pricing
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schemes. Delphi's interface is slow, cumbersome, difficult to use, and
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whatever other phrases one cares to make up. It stinks, but you get what you
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pay for eh? On the other hand, most of the new uploads are appearing there.
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Looking through our data libraries is dissapointing compared to Delphi's OS9
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section.
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I guess what I'm saying and what James is saying too it unless CIS starts doing
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some more to try and intice new members and keep old ones, the exodus to Delphi
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will continue until this forum is dead. I realize that they might only care
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about the hundreds of thousands of members in the Mac and IBM forums, but we
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also help pay the bills too. A tiny little crumb thrown our way once in a
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while would do much to help.
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Mark
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PS I also have a Delphi account.
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#: 14687 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 10:49:50
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Sb: #14684-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Mark,
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Yup... I agree with a lot of what you say, and have used those same points in
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disucssions (I hesitate to call them arguements!<g>) with Compufolks in the
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past, and probably will do so again in the future.
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Owell... we'll see what happens in the future.
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Wayne
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#: 14689 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 19:18:08
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Sb: #14680-#HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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Wiz,
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I can recall when HMI was released, it came with the announcement of CompuServe
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wanting developers to make use of the protocol ... and even went as far as
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saying C routines were being developed to make it easier.
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I suppose opinions have changed over time, eh?
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Is Sandy Trevor still with CompuServe? I wonder if a note dropped his direction
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might be of some help? Or have you already covered this ground?
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Sandy was helpful to the CoCo crowd once ... perhap he would be interested in
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reprising his role?
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Steve
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#: 14693 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 21:37:40
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Sb: #14689-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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As far as I know, Sandy is still with CompuServe - I've not heard otherwise.
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At this point, though, I'd just recommend that anyone who is seriously wanting
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to develop an HMI platform on the CoCo contact CompuServe's software support
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folks and explore the possibilities of working with them on it.
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Note, though, that from what I'm gathering this kinda deal is NOT what James is
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talking about - he wants it released ala publicly available but still
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copyrighted, as was the GIF standards.
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Wayne
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#: 14685 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 07:38:03
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Sb: #14679-#HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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I, like you, have had no success in prying even the simplest of specs on HMI
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out of CIS. I have to admit that I haven't exactly bombarded them with
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requests. They are really pushing CIM, I get irritated every time I see it
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mentioned. They are effectivley locking non-PC/non-MAC users out, and it isn't
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fair. Its particularly frustrating when I see what CIM can do, and is not
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available to us "outsiders". To be able to download a file in one window, while
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reading messages in another and having a one on one conference with another
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user all at the same time, on the same screen, is really something to see.
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Hopefully they will eventually release something, like they finally did with B
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protocol. Meanwhile I've toyed with the idea of hanging a data scope on a CIM
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connection and try to decipher the packets, of course they may have already
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thought of that and have encrypted the packets, or compressed them, which would
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make it just as difficult to figure out.
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On a lighter note, I'm in the final stages of testing out a TAPCIS-like set of
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programs that I have been working on for the last year or more. I intend to
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upload the CoCo version here, possibly as shareware. As soon as I get the I/O
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board installed on my MM/1 (waiting for SIMMs and a cable) I will start working
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on a version for OSK. (Now you know why I'm interested in HMI :-)
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Bill
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#: 14688 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-Mar-92 13:40:48
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Sb: #14685-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Well...like I said in a message on another forum, Lauren Weinstein is said to
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have puzzled out UUCP protocol by experimentation; it should be possible to
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figure out HMI similarly, though it would be hard work.
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23-Mar-92 21:58:36
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Sb: #14679-#HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: BILL HEALTON 73367,357
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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James, CIS's PC & Mac packages are not the only automated
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packages/platforms to improve CIS accessability(affordability). Jim Ness
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74415,1727 has written and is constantly updating a very good package for
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the Atari ST called QuickCIS. Jim's package is freeware, uses the CIS
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abbreviated commands (available I believe in a FOR-SALE manual) and it is
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extremely functional. I am using it now. I have the program setup to read
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the new messages in selected forums,check my e-mail,get new upload listings
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for selected forums and save any announcements. I just downloaded >250
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messages in <15 minutes (2400 baud). I then scan them off-line and reply as
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necessary. I mark new programs for auto download, and request QuickCIS to
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post the replies and download the files all with mouse clicks.
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The point of all this is HMI many not be the only option, or is available
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online or in guides. You can contact Jim Ness through e-mail or in the
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AtariPro forum section 14. Note this section is specifically for QuickCIS.
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CIS supports other efforts because it keeps people like you and me online.
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Also be aware that Jim is usually busy tweaking QCIS or traveling, but he
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is always helpful.
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Best Wishes in finding your information.
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Bill Healton (not associated with CIS just very satisfied with QuickCIS)
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24-Mar-92 06:51:54
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Sb: #14694-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: BILL HEALTON 73367,357 (X)
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Thanks for the pointer. Is source code available for QuickCIS? I don't have
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an ST. (Shucks, I'll GO ATARIPRO and ask. Never mind.)
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29-Mar-92 14:49:52
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Sb: #14679-HMI, CIS, and all that
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Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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There is also a similar package for the Amiga called "Whap!" that I use for
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accessing Compuserve. This is available in the AMIGAVENDOR forum here and is a
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commercial program that you can try. If you purchase the program, they E-Mail
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you an electronic 'key' that unlocks all of the features of the program, pretty
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slick in my opinion.
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The Icon for the Whap! program shows a terminal that reads "CI$" with a large
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weight overhead. When you double-click the icon to run the Whap! program, the
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weight crushes the terminal, "Whapping" your CI$ charges down to more palatible
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levels. I think that this is why the program is called "Whap!", in any event it
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works even with its (in my opinion) quirks. -J
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#: 14691 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Mar-92 21:34:45
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Sb: #14672-MM/1 advice
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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I strongly suspect there is a buffering problem in the 901 driver. I looked at
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a listing and it looks ok. I will have to get some hardware and check it out,
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I think.
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#: 14696 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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25-Mar-92 18:44:12
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Sb: #LZH.HLP
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: All
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Dear Friends:
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I have been trying to use the UNLZH (Versions 3 and 5) programs to unarc some
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files that I transfers from some MS-DOS disks using PC-DOS. I have not had any
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success. They appear to be in LZH-1 format. In any case the program aborts with
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CRC and Header sum errors. Is there any way to extract these files under Level
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2/OS9?
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Thank you, With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW
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#: 14703 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 14:26:29
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Sb: #14696-#LZH.HLP
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Fm: Norman Rheaume 71630,3476
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To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)
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Did you also get the latest UNLZHUF? I and several others have been using
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Edition #5 without problems. Are these very large files? Edition #5 was
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supposed to fix a problem with files >500k. I'll check back in Sunday.
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Since I wrote the port I may be able to help<grin>. I haven't been calling in
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CI$ much, my wife paid last months bill.
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#: 14705 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 21:10:21
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Sb: #14703-LZH.HLP
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: Norman Rheaume 71630,3476 (X)
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I tried with both version 3 and 5. I am using PCDOS to make the transfer. Is
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itt possible that this is causing a problem. I may try transfering the file
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again with some other transfer utility and see what happens. I will let you
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know. --Thank you for your help. With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW
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#: 14704 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 14:29:43
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Sb: #14696-LZH.HLP
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Fm: Norman Rheaume 71630,3476
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To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)
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Opps. I just checked and the latest edition here is #3. Edition #5 fixes a
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problem with LARGE files. I'll try to upload tonight. Sorry for the problem.
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It didn't show up until someone dearced a 250k LZH.
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Norman
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26-Mar-92 02:48:09
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Sb: #14415-#Help
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Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Where can I get the Development package? I just recently bought a 386DX and
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I've got Turbo C++ that I've been tinkering with. I'm starting to get the hang
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of C so I'll probably start writing some stuff for the CoCo in C before you
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know it!
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26-Mar-92 09:28:46
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Sb: #14697-Help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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George -
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Last I heard, you have to order it from the RS special order software catalog.
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A better bet would be to find someone who is selling their coco3/2 and try to
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snag a used one.
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26-Mar-92 02:49:18
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Sb: #14416-PAK utility
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Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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I have that utility. I've used it before. It works pretty good...
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26-Mar-92 22:19:27
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Sb: printer
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Fm: tom farrow 72701,543
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To: all
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please help me get my phantomgraph to print on my epson mx 80 with dots perfect
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or help with another type of graphic program.
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27-Mar-92 12:34:09
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Sb: CD-I/OS-9 Job
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: all
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[edited from usenet]
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Position available: Compact Disc Interactive (CD-I) Title Engineer.
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Immediate opening for a creative engineer with a desire to work on a
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consumer oriented multimedia platform.
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Minimal qualifications:
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3+ years experience in C
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Knowledge of UNIX
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Good communications skills
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Desirable qualifications:
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CD-I experience
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Knowledge of OS-9
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Microcomputer experience
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68000 assembly
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Interactive graphics/animation
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Digital audio
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Responsibilities include:
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Software development of CD-I titles
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Participate in creation of new title concepts
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Develop authoring tools for the CD-I environment
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No phone calls
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Resumes (ascii only please) salary history and requirements via email to:
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>INTERNET:resume@capitol.com
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Or: Mark Thomas, Capitol Disc Interactive
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2121 Wisconsin Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20007
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#: 14706 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 21:21:01
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Sb: #14460-Rogue under Multivue
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Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
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To: Bert Schneider 70244,427
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I don't think shell+ is an issue here. I observed it was font clashes that
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caused my problems.
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Mike
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#: 14707 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 21:25:06
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Sb: #14482-#E.A.R.S.
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Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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My info on the article is haphhazard at best. I did a project for college using
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ears and had obtained the actual sp-1000 manual on it. Gives full technical
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details on it but impossible to understand. This was two years ago. Ill have to
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dig out my stuff from the project. I don't remember where EARS resides I think
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it was FF70-FF74. you could make it anywhere you wish
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I don't know where the author is for the OS9 ears/x10 software. It is Bob Puppo
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and I have no way to contact him. I think he lives in norristown, PA
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Anyone know his #?
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Mike
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14709 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Mar-92 08:19:32
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Sb: #14707-E.A.R.S.
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
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I know how to get in contact with Bob, but I don't know if he'd want his home
|
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phone number posted here in the public message base. I'll get in contact with
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him, and see if he's willing to release the OS9 drivers for E.A.R.S.
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Thanks,
|
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Lee
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#: 14708 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Mar-92 21:29:38
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Sb: #14516-EARS & CoCo 3
|
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Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
|
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To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)
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ears works on a CoCo3 after disabling the CoCo3 commands. What needs to be done
|
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is fixing the ears software to not conflict with basic. I have the source code
|
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to ears (yes i bought a copy before they went out) and it I had tom mix's
|
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assembler i could fix it. Just need to move the tokens higher to not conflict
|
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with coco3 basic.
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The hardware part is OK for a CoCo3 (even with the upgraded MPI)
|
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Mike
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#: 14711 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
|
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29-Mar-92 00:39:32
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Sb: #Interface for 3/21
|
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Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
|
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To: All
|
||
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|
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OCN/Member Interface
|
||
|
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Copyright 1992 - Eric Carson
|
||
|
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A Report On The OS9 Community Network Board Of Directors
|
||
|
|
For The Week Ending 03/22/92
|
||
|
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------DISCLAIMER:
|
||
|
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The content of the following text is solely the view of the author. I
|
||
|
|
can only report on what I am able read in the OS9Net (BOD) echo, and
|
||
|
|
may not write or reply to the activities within. Any comments or sug-
|
||
|
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gestions to the BOD, or to me, may be posted in a FidoNet(tm) COCO_CLUB
|
||
|
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or OS9 echo near you.
|
||
|
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------CURRENT
|
||
|
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B.O.D. ACTIVITY:
|
||
|
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Kim Bergman was unanimously voted the new OS9CN Secretary.
|
||
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|
||
|
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Greg Morgan was unanimously voted the new OS9CN Membership Coordinator.
|
||
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|
|
||
|
|
Albert Baldish has been nominated for the position of Region 13 Coordinator.
|
||
|
|
Motion made and seconded. Discussion starts.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
John Donaldson has volunteered for the position of UseNet Gateway Coordinator.
|
||
|
|
Motion made and seconded. Discussion starts.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Erik Seielstad, OS9CN Advisor [I think - EC], has stated that he will work at
|
||
|
|
getting the COCO and COCO_CLUB mailfeeds through to UUCP, BitNet, Internet and
|
||
|
|
CompuServe. He has also offered help to "get simple mail conversion software
|
||
|
|
running between different BBS software." In essence, to be the Network Gateway
|
||
|
|
Coordinator, (kinda like a coordinator of the other net coordinator). Motion
|
||
|
|
made and seconded. Discussion starts. (continued)
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
There are 3 Replies.
|
||
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|
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|
|
#: 14712 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
|
||
|
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29-Mar-92 00:40:58
|
||
|
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Sb: #14711-Interface for 3/21
|
||
|
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Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
|
||
|
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To: John Wight 76370,2100 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Motion made to allow the new Net Coordinators into the OS9CN Net echo and the
|
||
|
|
BOD. Seconded. Discussion starts.
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
John Wight, Int'l Coordinator, has made a motion, that in the event a
|
||
|
|
nomination for a position is made, and the person is the only runner for that
|
||
|
|
position, that he be allowed to appoint that person to that position, without
|
||
|
|
going through the normal voting procedures.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Voting on whether Tom Birt, Region 10 Coordinator, should accept the Delphi
|
||
|
|
offer has commenced.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Tom Birt has stated that he would like to begin offering hard copies of the
|
||
|
|
OS9CN NewsLetter. John Wight wants to vote on it.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Gene Clifton, Int'l Librarian, has compiled an official listing of files
|
||
|
|
currently available from the Regional Libraries. (Filename: OS9CNLST.ZIP)
|
||
|
|
He has also compiled a listing of BBSes which are members of the OS9CN.
|
||
|
|
(Filename: OS9CNNET.ZIP)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Dave Spicer, Region 18 Librarian, has informed the BOD that he will moving to
|
||
|
|
Korea around August of this year. He suggested finding a replacement to wait in
|
||
|
|
the wings until they are needed.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
(continued)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14713 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 00:42:00
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14711-Interface for 3/21
|
||
|
|
Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
|
||
|
|
To: John Wight 76370,2100
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
UPCOMING EVENTS: Unresolved votes-
|
||
|
|
Wes Gale has been nominated for the position of Co-Coordinator.
|
||
|
|
A motion has been made and seconded for a monthly Department-Head meeting.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
OS9 Release update-
|
||
|
|
Nancy Ward, former OS9CN Secretary, related to the BOD her conversation with
|
||
|
|
Bill Nobel concerning "control" of the OS9 source code. It seems that Microware
|
||
|
|
doesn't want to just throw the source to everybody, but wants an organisation
|
||
|
|
to support it. It seems that, while Microware doesn't support the 6809 version
|
||
|
|
of OS9, they don't want OS9's reputation to become sullied, which might result
|
||
|
|
from an indiscriminate release of the code. Actually, the OS9CN was formed, in
|
||
|
|
part, from input by Microware.
|
||
|
|
This being the case, the BOD is advertising positions for Net Coordinators of
|
||
|
|
the various Networks. The positions are open to those who are willing to put
|
||
|
|
forth the effort in supporting OS9, and who have a reliable means of storing
|
||
|
|
the source code. The Net Coordinator positions are similar to the position of
|
||
|
|
Regional Coordinator, as defined in the OS9CN By-laws. (The current By-Laws can
|
||
|
|
be found in the January '92 issue of the OCNNetnews, and may be downloaded from
|
||
|
|
your nearest Regional Library, filename "OCNN.jan91").
|
||
|
|
What follows is a listing of the various Networks to be represented:
|
||
|
|
STG, RIME, ACBBS, INTERNET, BITNET, CI$, DELPHI, GENIE, WWIV-Link. (There may
|
||
|
|
be others to be announced in the future).
|
||
|
|
For more information, contact John Wight, 814 Bannister St. #4, Honolulu,
|
||
|
|
Hawaii 96819, or (808)845-5299/bbs, or in the COCO, OS9, COCO_CLUB FidoNet
|
||
|
|
echos. (continued)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14714 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 00:43:18
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14711-Interface for 3/21
|
||
|
|
Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
|
||
|
|
To: John Wight 76370,2100
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
EDITORIAL:
|
||
|
|
Bill Nobel, Int'l OS9CN Representative, has been in contact with Microware,
|
||
|
|
discussing the release of the OS9 source code to the OS9CN. Microware
|
||
|
|
apparently does not "own" the windowing system under OS9; Tandy does. Ken
|
||
|
|
Kaplan, President of Microware, has been in contact with Tandy concerning the
|
||
|
|
release of the windowing portion of the code. According to Ken Kaplan, via Bill
|
||
|
|
Nobel, Tandy does not want to release it, but it seems they want to do
|
||
|
|
something with it, yet. [Hmmm, wild guesses, anyone? Does "upgrade" come to
|
||
|
|
mind? We'll see...:-) -EC]
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Eric Carson - OS9 Community Network/Member Interface
|
||
|
|
The Galactic Milieu (916) 893-5412 [FIDO - 1:119/13]
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14715 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 01:44:36
|
||
|
|
Sb: UNLZH
|
||
|
|
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
|
||
|
|
To: Norman Rheame, 71360,3476
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Dear Norman: I saw that you uploaded UNLZH_5. Your note in the description to
|
||
|
|
use the -raw modifier in PCDOS made the difference. I did not realize that this
|
||
|
|
was required. I used pcdos -get -raw /d1 test.lzh >/dd/test.lzh and it worked.
|
||
|
|
Thank you for your help.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14716 S4/MIDI and Music
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 03:56:19
|
||
|
|
Sb: Umuse3 Help
|
||
|
|
Fm: Larry J. Mohr 76120,1642
|
||
|
|
To: 72467,1111
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Mike, I just recieved a copy of Ultimuse-III Ver 4.7.5A. Almost everything
|
||
|
|
works fine, but I can not seem to read any files or directories. When I try
|
||
|
|
I get a message about 'can not malloc enuf' and 'DIRREAD'. I checked RAM and
|
||
|
|
I have 160K or more. I also checked system RAM and smap gives 34 pages.
|
||
|
|
I noticed that when I ran pmap that 'FRAN' has a full 64k map. Could this
|
||
|
|
be the problem? The CRC's of the modules I have are as follows:
|
||
|
|
Umuse3 4B30A8
|
||
|
|
FRAN D11CBE
|
||
|
|
Um3disk 7F52C4
|
||
|
|
Um3play D207CA
|
||
|
|
Um3Show D0C9CF
|
||
|
|
Um3Lay 89E612
|
||
|
|
Um3Plco 8B489C
|
||
|
|
Um3Trango ED9F85
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I hope you can help me out. I have been using the shareware version and I
|
||
|
|
was looking forward to the new menu version.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Larry Mohr
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14717 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 06:49:21
|
||
|
|
Sb: #UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
|
||
|
|
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Kevin, please read msg 14716. Can you help Larry? I remember having the
|
||
|
|
"malloc" problem but can't remember the fix. Mike hasn't been around since
|
||
|
|
December. Thanks, Ches.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14718 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 09:25:53
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14717-#UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
|
||
|
|
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Ches - I don't have UMuse, so I'm not of much help. Hopefully someone who does
|
||
|
|
have it can aid Larry in tracking down what's happening.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Oh. Was it something about some util merged in with the shell, or was it a
|
||
|
|
shell+ thingie or ... ? Hoping to jog your memory :-)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14722 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
30-Mar-92 06:16:20
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14718-#UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
|
||
|
|
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I knew you weren't a UMUser, but I thought the malloc error might trigger
|
||
|
|
something. Seems to me it was a merge of some sort but it's been so long I
|
||
|
|
can't recall. Isn't the malloc error a C problem of some sort? Something
|
||
|
|
about memory allocation. Perhaps, as you said, something merged with the
|
||
|
|
shell. I'll check my setup more carefully for unremembered merges. Thanks for
|
||
|
|
feedback. Regards, Ches.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14723 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
30-Mar-92 08:56:27
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14722-#UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
||
|
|
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Ches -
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
A 'malloc()' error simply indicates that there was not enough 'heap' ram left
|
||
|
|
to allocate the amount requested by the program. Heap ram is that which is
|
||
|
|
outside the amount allocated by the initial program fork. Malloc is a C library
|
||
|
|
function that typically grabs a little more than requested, so the next time a
|
||
|
|
malloc is requested, memory can be granted from an already snatched pool of
|
||
|
|
free memory.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Pete
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14725 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
30-Mar-92 17:55:07
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14723-#UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
|
||
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Thanks, Pete. I've gone thru my implementation and see no merges (Kevin's
|
||
|
|
suggestion). I've also gone back thru some copies I kept of correspondance
|
||
|
|
with Mike and find a partial answer by him on the problem. Seems he has
|
||
|
|
written some of his own routines to bypass Shell's memory handling routines and
|
||
|
|
one or more of these was causing the problem earlier (if I'm interpreting his
|
||
|
|
messages correctly). Anyway, I've put through a voice message asking Mike to
|
||
|
|
reappear so we may find out from the "oracle" shortly. Thanks for your
|
||
|
|
response. Regards, Ches.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14731 S6/Applications
|
||
|
|
30-Mar-92 22:20:02
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14725-UMuse Query
|
||
|
|
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
|
||
|
|
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Ches,
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Mike tried to squeeze the absolute maximum amount of memory out of the 64K
|
||
|
|
limit. In doing so, he made some assumptions about how much memory the shell
|
||
|
|
would allocate when forking a process. The standard shell uses a minimum of 1
|
||
|
|
page, shell+ requests a minimum of 31 pages (just under 8K). There is a patch
|
||
|
|
for shell+ that fixes this. Another possible problem is merging modules, other
|
||
|
|
than as specifically specified in the UMuse docs.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Bill
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14719 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 14:47:14
|
||
|
|
Sb: #14262-Ultra-Science Windows
|
||
|
|
Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143
|
||
|
|
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I did get screens to work--- but not on vt70 only on gwindows (the demo). I
|
||
|
|
beleive it will work
|
||
|
|
on a terminal as well. Vt70 nis just too buggy (and is supposed to be in the
|
||
|
|
process of being rewritten)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 14721 S7/Telecommunications
|
||
|
|
29-Mar-92 16:40:25
|
||
|
|
Sb: v.32bis modem working
|
||
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
||
|
|
To: All
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Got the CompuCom Star going with /t0 on my MM/1. Just had to use the at\q1
|
||
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command to tell it to use xon/xoff flow control. Not as fast as it could be,
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but it works. Once I have the paddle board for /t3, I'll move it to /t3.
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30-Mar-92 10:15:10
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Sb: #getkey problem in C
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Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
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Can someone help this poor frustrated fellow. I've been trying to get
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a value returned from my getkey function to my main function, and I
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have tried many ideas starting with using a 'return()' in the getkey.
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I am getting the correct value from the 'printf' statement within the
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getkey function, but when I print the value from the main function, I
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consistently get some number like 19802 for both 'j' and 'vlu'. So
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it seems that nothing is getting back up, unless the new value is a
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pointer to the returned value - just a wild guess. The following
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is a listing of what I have ended up after many trials. What do
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you suggest?
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** program name 'hello/c' **
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#include <stdio/h>
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#option INLIB
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int j, vlu;
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main()
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{
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int i;
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int getkey();
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void clearsc();
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void gotoxy();
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clearsc();
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printf("Enter a key when you are ready\n\n");
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getkey(vlu);
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j = vlu;
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printf("vlu answer is %d, j answer is %d \n\n",vlu,j);
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/* for(i = 0; i < j; i++)
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{
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gotoxy(i*2,i);
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printf("This is my first program\n");
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} */
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}
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void clearsc()
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{
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fputs("\x1c\x1f",stdout);
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}
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void gotoxy(col,row)
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int col,row;
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cursor(col,row);
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}
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int getkey(vlu)
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{
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while (TRUE)
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{
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vlu = inkey();
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if (vlu != 0)
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break;
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}
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printf(" the answer here is %d \n\n", vlu);
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This program is being programmed on a Model IV computer, so if
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there are any peculiarities, I have tried to avoid them. If I
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seem to be making some silly code, please forgive me, since its
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been three years since I last wrote in C.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14729 S3/Languages
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30-Mar-92 21:36:00
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Sb: #14724-getkey problem in C
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
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Bob,
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Change the call to getkey() from getkey(vlu) to vlu=getkey(). Then change
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getkey() to:
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int getkey()
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{
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int v;
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while ((v=inkey())==0);
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return v;
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} Hope this helps.
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#: 14726 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Mar-92 19:43:31
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Sb: #c on the coco
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 71431,3466
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To: all
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C programmers, I have a question:
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How do you pass a function address to another function and have the second
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function execute it? Example:
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I have a function foo()
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int foo()
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{
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... }
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that I want to have another function dofunc() execute. I call dofunc() in
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some manner like
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dofunc(foo);
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so that dofunc() executes foo(). How do I code this? Your help is
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appreciated.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14727 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Mar-92 21:21:16
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Sb: #14726-#c on the coco
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Joseph Cheek 71431,3466 (X)
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That's exactly what you want to do when you call dofunc. Now, the interesting
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part is the declaration of dofunc():
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dofunc(fp)
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int (*fp)();
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{
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/* blah blah blah */
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(*fp)();
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}
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Give it a try and let us know how it comes out, OK?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14732 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Mar-92 22:29:35
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Sb: #14727-c on the coco
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 71431,3466
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To: James Jones 76257,562
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thanks, james, I will give it a try.
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#: 14730 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Mar-92 21:57:23
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Sb: Of Mice and Monks
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: All
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Dear Friends: Once again I am playing with my boot disk. I replaced CC3io with
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the version from SMOUSE, and patched Windint with patches from KBCOM and the
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"rollover" patch, (stops the title bar from showing when changing windows. I
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also wanted to add the clock from SMOUSE, but I don't want to give up my DISTO
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RTC on the 4-in-1. I tried using DSETIME but I could not properly get the time
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from the RTC. I would hate to have to go back to using SETIME each time I start
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up. Can a clock module which allows for IRQ's read the RTC as well? I thought
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that my system seemed faster when using the clock from SMOUSE. FInally, I
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booted up with my new disk, still using the DISTO clock module, and called up
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OSTERM from MV, I run it in a type 2 80 x 24 window. Much sto my surprise, it
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ran in a graphics window. I know this for a fact because the fonts I use with
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MV are from the MAC, Mike Haaland uploaded them with some window parts. My /w7
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was still using the normal text fonts... After logging off, and quitting OSTERM
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I restarted it, this time in its normal type window. What do you think
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happened?
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--Br. Jeremy, CSJW
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Press <CR> !>
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