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#: 12701 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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26-Oct-91 12:17:18
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Sb: #G Windows
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Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
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To: 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin:
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Can you give me the latest info on G Windows?
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Keith
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#: 12704 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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26-Oct-91 12:56:35
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Sb: #12701-#G Windows
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)
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Keith - info on G-Windows? What do you need to know? Ed Gresick can probably
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tell you anything you wish... he had it running on his System IV at the fest.
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Looked pretty neat!
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kev
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#: 12715 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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27-Oct-91 10:15:29
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Sb: #12704-G Windows
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Kev,
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I, for one, would also like to hear about some of the accomplishments of the
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two other OSK box distributors. Far and away, Paul has posted more information
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regarding the MM/1 than have Ed or Frank relative to their boxes.
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Give 'em a nudge if you 'see' them!
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Steve
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#: 12702 S15/Hot Topics
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26-Oct-91 12:19:26
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Sb: I/O Boards - MM/1
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Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
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To: 73477,2004
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Paul:
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I would like to order the i/o board, but I need some more infomation on it. Is
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it avaibable?
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Keith
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#: 12703 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Oct-91 12:55:11
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Sb: #12696-#multivue
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X)
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Ev - I think others have mentioned how to get gshell 1.24.
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Umm... memory utils... do you have mmap and pmap? Do a "bro util*" in Lib 10
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and download the three files you find. They're some tools to help see what's
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going on.
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cheers - kev
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#: 12714 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Oct-91 09:04:49
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Sb: #12703-multivue
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin,
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Might Everett's lockup problems while using Gshell and his BBS simultaneously
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be caused by the fact that Gshell shuts off interupts when the menu bar is
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rolled over from menu to program and back to menu? Also, doesn't the Hi-Res
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Mouse adaptor cause CC3IO to shut down interupts while it's calculating the
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"pointer" position? Seems like you mentioned these to me some time ago, when I
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was having trouble keeping my GShell and my terminal program going at the same
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time.
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Lee
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#: 12752 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 22:14:01
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Sb: #12689-#multivue
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Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Can you explane how to read mmap and pmap?
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#: 12757 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Oct-91 00:13:03
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Sb: #12752-#multivue
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
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MMap is pretty straight forward. It shows the use of the 64 (or more, if you
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have a fixed mmap and more than 512K) 8K blocks in your system. Example:
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0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
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# = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
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0 U M M M M U M U M M U U M M U M <-- boot modules and commands
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1 M M U M M M M M M M M M M M M _
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2 M _ _ _ M M _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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3 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ U U M <-- video mem and kernel
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They're arranged in hex layout. The upper left is block $00, the bottom
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rightmost is block $3F (63). "M" means the block is being used for modules(s).
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"U" means it's just used for data/graphics. "." means you don't have any
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memory there, and "_" means the block is free.
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OS-9 loads the bootfile and commands into the lowest free block numbers. On the
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CoCo-3, the uppermost blocks are allocated downward for video memory, because
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graphics memory must be contiguous.
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You can use the output of "dirm" or sometimes "mdir e" to check and see what
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modules are in what block numbers. The main use for "mmap" is to get a better
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visual feel of where your memory blocks are going to :-)
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BTW, your mmap output will probably bogusly show "U" where mine has "M"s in the
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first few blocks... that's because the original CoCo L-II had to do some tricks
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to allocate bootfile memory.
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#: 12758 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Oct-91 00:13:32
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Sb: #12757-multivue
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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<cont'd>
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PMap is far more informative. It shows which block numbers are allocated (and
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where they will be mapped) for each process. It visually demonstrates that
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data memory is mapped in at the bottom of each process' 64K map, and that
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modules are mapped in a the top. It also lets you diagnose problems where you
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run out of process map memory (error 207).
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ID 01 23 45 67 89 AB CD EF Program
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*--- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -------
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1 00 .. 05 01 02 03 04 3F SYSTEM (kernel)
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2 07 .. .. .. .. .. 08 09 shell
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3 0A .. .. .. .. .. .. 0D PMap
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4 0B .. .. .. .. .. 08 09 shell
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5 12 .. .. .. .. .. 08 09 shell
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Here, we see that the kernel itself has allocated blocks 0,5,1,2,3,4 and $3F.
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Combined with SMap, we can know exactly how much memory the system can still
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allocate for the kernel (for proc descriptors, etc), and we see one empty spot
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where another 8K block (or module) could be mapped/linked in.
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The shell module is obviously merged in with other modules, in blocks 8,9...
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because we can see it mapped in all shell procs. But each shell has a
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different data block (on the leftmost of its line).
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The ID is the process id number. The numbers across the top are useful for
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people heavy into debugging/etc... they give the logical address within the 64K
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maps. That is, the first 8K block is from $0000-$1FFF. The second 8K block is
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from $2000-$3FFF, and so on.
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PMap is pretty handy with Basic09 stuff... because you can see your basic09 map
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getting filled up as subroutines are linked in (like gfx2, etc). Ask again
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about anything that seems unclear. - kev
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26-Oct-91 14:16:47
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Sb: #End of files
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Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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To: all
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How do I use the "eof" syntax in basic09 to find the end of file on a diskfile?
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Do I have to read the entire file to get the end pointer? This is using random
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access by the way I want to set up a checking account file. when I update I
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want to add to the end of the file I am familar with disk basic files and know
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how to use "eof" there. I am trying to learn basic09 because it looks very
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inviting and "Fast". Thanks, Denise
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#: 12711 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Oct-91 22:21:55
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Sb: #12705-End of files
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)
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The best way to do what you're after is to use a getstat call to determine the
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current length of the file. Check out the syscall procedure, along with page
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8-113 in the CoCo 3 OS-9 Technical Manual.
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27-Oct-91 00:26:11
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Sb: #12705-#End of files
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)
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Denise,
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Basic09 is neat. Great for writing quick little tools and packing them into
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new commands. One way to seek to the end, is to use the Syscall subroutine
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to access a low-level OS-9 status call, to get the filesize. Then seek
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to that spot and start adding on from there.
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WARNING: seeking to a higher
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number will always expand the file to that size. Do NOT do something like
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a "seek #path,4000000" because it'll try to grab 4 megabytes from your
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disk... and all you can do is wait until it gets it or errors out <grin>.
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Anyway, here's a sample you can run on a small ascii test file you've made:
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PROCEDURE filesize
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TYPE stack=CC,A,B,DP:BYTE; X,Y,U:INTEGER
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INPUT "file ",f$ \ (* get a test file name that exists
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regs.A=path
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PRINT "filesize=",filesize \ (* print the filesize
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CLOSE #path
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28-Oct-91 18:38:38
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Sb: #12713-End of files
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Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanks Kevin, I'll try that and experiment Huggs, Denise
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#: 12706 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Oct-91 17:38:21
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Sb: #gshell
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Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
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To: all
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I have done the Gshell upgrades and all that happends is it ask for Gshell in
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/d0!! How do I remove this?(make it /hd)
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27-Oct-91 00:25:21
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Sb: #12706-#gshell
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X)
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Ummm. Asks for gshell in /d0? I'm not sure what you mean. Hmm. Try this:
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make sure you don't have the "autoex" command in your CMDS dir. Boot up
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27-Oct-91 10:56:23
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Sb: #12712-gshell
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Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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After the mod is done it asks for gshell in /d0 not /hd. What do I do now?
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26-Oct-91 19:07:57
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Sb: #12697-#OS9 Assembly
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)
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One of my favorite passages of scripture. -Br. Jeremy, CSJW
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#: 12709 S3/Languages
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26-Oct-91 20:43:17
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Sb: #12707-#OS9 Assembly
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)
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I knew there was something I liked about bears.
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#: 12728 S3/Languages
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27-Oct-91 22:45:12
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Sb: #12709-OS9 Assembly
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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Dear John: When I was in seminary, and more worried about hair loss, I
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remembered reading
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about an Old Folk cure of massaging Vicks Vap-O-Rub into the scalp. I can't
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say that it did anything for the hair, but my sinuses were great. Well I guess
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this Forum Thread is wearing thin, (at least my hair is)... With all best
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wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW
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#: 12710 S3/Languages
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26-Oct-91 20:50:55
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Sb: #12693-OS9 Assembly
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)
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Whew! Just checked. Two bears and they were she-bears yet. Gonna have to show
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that one to a couple nephews.
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28-Oct-91 20:10:44
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Sb: #12660-OS9 Assembly
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Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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You can also call Motorola and ask for their free 6809 software book!
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26-Oct-91 19:55:12
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Sb: #Hard Ware
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Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
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To: David Betz, 76704,47 (X)
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Dear David: Good luck of a sort. I believe that Howard Medical (312-278-1440)
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might be of some help. I see that they had a supply of Disto 3-in-1
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boards. I have also managed to locate a SC-II and a 4-in-1, but the owner said
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know what this means, but I will try and find out. He wants $30.00 for the
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so if you do not have an account there, let me know and I will contact him.
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I am inclined to tell him to send them to me C.O.D. and then wait for your
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decision. Boards needing repair may be our only option, I don't know. I will
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Slightly defective but repairable, eh? Well, I'm not a hardware engineer, so I
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don't think I'm in a position to repair them. I wonder if he knows what sort
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of repair is required? Anyway, I appreciate your work in locating the SC-II
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and 4-in-1. I'll give Howard Medical a call to see what they've got. Thanks
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again!
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27-Oct-91 10:27:03
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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Ed,
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Long time no talk!
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I was just observing to Kev that we haven't seen any updates from Delmar in
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some time. How about posting something on your windowing alternatives .... or
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perhaps just a update?
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Anything we can do to help?
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28-Oct-91 03:45:43
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Sb: #12716-#updates?
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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Hi Steve,
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Yes, it has been a while.
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We've just been quietly selling and shipping machines. There are some
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new things in the works and we'll announce them when we're ready.
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But, we are getting ready to announce G-Windows. I see Frank (FHL) has
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already posted the 'sales pitch' for G-Windows. And he's done a good
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job of describing it. We do have one advantage with the SYSTEM IV over
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the TC-70, better resolution - up to 1024 x 768 x 256 if you want it.
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I'll post details soon. We are also looking at another GUI/Windowing
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system. Quite a bit different. Can't say whether it's better or not -
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this is a very subjective thing. Also, we have an in-house project for
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a TUI/Windowing system for text only systems in the works. Be very
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similiar to a GUI except it's designed for all but the dumbest text
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terminals.
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Re K-Windows for the SYSTEM IV, you might want to 'observe' to Kev to
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'get on the ball' <g>.
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#: 12740 S15/Hot Topics
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28-Oct-91 07:46:18
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Sb: #12733-#updates?
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed,
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Just trying for some balanced coverage here in the forum. Keep us posted on
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the developments as you're ready.
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Steve
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#: 12746 S15/Hot Topics
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28-Oct-91 15:38:19
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Sb: #12740-#updates?
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Hi Steve,
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Yes, it's me again - twice in one day. Perhaps your request for updates
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was transmitted to the 'powers to be' re G-Windows via mental telepathy.
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At any rate, some good news. We reached an agreement this afternoon.
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All that needs to be done is sign the paper work. In the meantime, a
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Port-Pak should be in my hands in about two weeks and we can do the formal
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port. Shouldn't take too long. A demo package will be available shortly.
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Additionally, we will be offering a separate package for programmers who
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wish to write software to run under G-Windows. This will provide hardware
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independence!
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I'll have a formal announcement up in a couple of days.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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302-378-2555
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#: 12750 S15/Hot Topics
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28-Oct-91 20:44:41
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Sb: #12746-updates?
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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Well Ed .... glad we could be of help! :-)
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Looking forward to the offical announcement!
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Steve
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#: 12717 S15/Hot Topics
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27-Oct-91 10:29:06
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Sb: #updates
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Frank 70310,317 (X)
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Frank,
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As you can tell from a couple other messages, updates from FHL have been
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missed. Any chance of you bringing us up to date on the state of things with
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your offerings?
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Anything we can do to help ....
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Steve
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 12725 S15/Hot Topics
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27-Oct-91 21:00:24
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Sb: #12717-#updates
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Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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OK will do. As a matter of fact I just uploaded 3 messages to DELPHI forum.
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Number 48827, 48828, and 48829. If your in a hurry. I'll upload those same
|
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|
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messages here right now!
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Thanks for asking!
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Frank
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 12736 S15/Hot Topics
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28-Oct-91 07:39:24
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Sb: #12725-updates
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)
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|
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Thanks Frank. Any new information on your systems is welcome ... as always.
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Steve
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#: 12719 S7/Telecommunications
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27-Oct-91 14:15:48
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Sb: #12541-Help w/ Sterm
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Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
|
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
|
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|
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Thanks!!! I would have NEVER EVER have figured that one out! I have a good CRC,
|
||
|
|
etc. on the module, so if I just transfer those two files to that dir it looks
|
||
|
|
like it just might work, after all. I'll let you know.
|
||
|
|
Thanks again,
|
||
|
|
Bruce Baker
|
||
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#: 12721 S7/Telecommunications
|
||
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27-Oct-91 18:27:19
|
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|
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Sb: #12546-#Help w/ Sterm
|
||
|
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Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
|
||
|
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
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I did have all the files. When I put the termcap and ttytype files in my
|
||
|
|
/dd/sys dir the program finally executed (once I got the xmode to /t2 set
|
||
|
|
correctly - that is, xmode /t2 baud=03 type=10. That sets up for 1200 baud [for
|
||
|
|
my modem] and modem kill switch on [again, for my modem]) In fact, I'm using
|
||
|
|
sterm right now! But... NOW I have another problem.
|
||
|
|
The opening screen for sterm has several different functions, all of which
|
||
|
|
could be desirable options at one time or another, but HOW does one access
|
||
|
|
them? For example- [Esc. D - change directory] I can't seem to generate the
|
||
|
|
Escape character. I've tried <ESC>, <SHIFT><ESC>,<CLEAR><ESC> etc. and nothing
|
||
|
|
seems to work. Any ideas?
|
||
|
|
Bruce
|
||
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|
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 12722 S7/Telecommunications
|
||
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27-Oct-91 19:31:00
|
||
|
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Sb: #12721-Help w/ Sterm
|
||
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
|
||
|
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To: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
|
||
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|
||
|
|
It took me a while to figure it out for I had no docs at all when I first got
|
||
|
|
sterm, albeit an older version. Both my original 1.2 and the new 1.5 work the
|
||
|
|
same way. First hit a ctrl-break to generate the ESC character. Release the
|
||
|
|
keys. Then press the letter. Example (to change directory): Press and hold
|
||
|
|
CTRL, then press BREAK. Release both. Press and release D. sterm now asks for
|
||
|
|
the new directory, which is where your downloads will be put until you change
|
||
|
|
again. Do this Ctrl-Break twice in succession if you need to send an ESC
|
||
|
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character over the modem.
|
||
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#: 12745 S7/Telecommunications
|
||
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28-Oct-91 11:36:11
|
||
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Sb: #12721-Help w/ Sterm
|
||
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
||
|
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To: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
|
||
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|
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|
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Bruce -
|
||
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|
|
Glad it's all rolling now. I'm sure you've had a response, but you generate ESC
|
||
|
|
by using CTRL+BREAK.
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||
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|
Pete
|
||
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#: 12720 S1/General Interest
|
||
|
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27-Oct-91 17:27:17
|
||
|
|
Sb: #Disk format advice
|
||
|
|
Fm: Barry L. Bond 72235,1530
|
||
|
|
To: All
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Long lost greetings!
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
I'm back seeking advice! Disk formats are among my least knowledgeable
|
||
|
|
areas of OS9. I have a TC70 and would like to write some backup data to 5.25"
|
||
|
|
floppy disks in a format (std? stdd? <grin>) which would be best should I
|
||
|
|
ever decide to read these disks on another OSK system (System IV, MM1, or even
|
||
|
|
a VMEbus system).
|
||
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|
||
|
|
What descriptor settings/format should I use to best accomplish this goal?
|
||
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|
||
|
|
I'm still financially unable to be here with the frequency I used to be,
|
||
|
|
but I'll be popping through every now and then! Just a warning! :-)
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Barry
|
||
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 12734 S1/General Interest
|
||
|
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28-Oct-91 03:46:30
|
||
|
|
Sb: #12720-Disk format advice
|
||
|
|
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
|
||
|
|
To: Barry L. Bond 72235,1530
|
||
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|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
Hi Barry,
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Long time no talk - hear you have a UUCP link going? Care to share
|
||
|
|
details?
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
Assuming you have Version 2.4 of OSK, the recommended format (by MW) for
|
||
|
|
media interchange is the Universal Format - 16 sectors/track all tracks,
|
||
|
|
track and sector offsets of 1. If you want to interchange disks with
|
||
|
|
people who don't have 2.4, I suggest using the 'MIZAR' format. This is
|
||
|
|
16 sectors/track all tracks, track and sector offsets of 0.
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Stay in touch.
|
||
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|
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|
|
Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
|
||
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|
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#: 12723 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
||
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27-Oct-91 19:46:28
|
||
|
|
Sb: Pulling MultiVue Apart
|
||
|
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
|
||
|
|
To: ALL
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Exactly what does the Autoexec file in MultiVue do? I would like to be able to
|
||
|
|
use my MultiVue boot disk for all OS-9 boots rather than just for launching
|
||
|
|
MultiVue. If it is not necessary to keep autoex as autoex, I'd like to rename
|
||
|
|
it to StartMV or something like that. Then I can use a utility I found called
|
||
|
|
OptStart so that on bootup I can press the space bar to launch MV or not press
|
||
|
|
it to boot normally. And if I want to use MV later in a session, I can type
|
||
|
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/d0/cmds/StartMV rather than putting the MultiVue boot disk in /d0 and typing
|
||
|
|
reset<CR> to reboot. Also, whenever I quit MultiVue, the screen clears and my
|
||
|
|
pointer is where I last left it. But there's no OS9: and the system is totally
|
||
|
|
locked up. To make the aforementioned more useful, it would help if I can
|
||
|
|
return to OS-9 instead of having to reboot. All this nearly makes MV a 3rd
|
||
|
|
operating system to me. Is there anything I can do? Finally, the manual states
|
||
|
|
a limit of 5 devices may be defined. Is this 5 RBF + 5 SCF devices =10 total
|
||
|
|
or 5 total devices whether RBF or SCF?
|
||
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||
|
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#: 12724 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
|
||
|
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27-Oct-91 20:32:07
|
||
|
|
Sb: #DL 10 file recovery?
|
||
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
||
|
|
To: [F] Mike 76703,2013 (X)
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
I'm embarrassed to say that when I moved my CoCo down to Oklahoma for my niece
|
||
|
|
to use, I did *not* grab certain stuff that would be useful, one part of which
|
||
|
|
is some fonts I edited and uploaded here. Would it be possible to get them
|
||
|
|
back? I browsed for them, and they appear to have vanished from the DLs.
|
||
|
|
Thanks.
|
||
|
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|
||
|
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There is 1 Reply.
|
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#: 12737 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
|
||
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28-Oct-91 07:41:12
|
||
|
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Sb: #12724-#DL 10 file recovery?
|
||
|
|
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
|
||
|
|
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
|
I'll check when I get home and see what I have in the online archive James.
|
||
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 12738 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
|
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28-Oct-91 07:44:28
|
||
|
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Sb: #12737-DL 10 file recovery?
|
||
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
||
|
|
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Thanks--actually, I found it on a BBS where I uploaded it, so you needn't
|
||
|
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bother. I'm using the italics font now, as a matter of fact.
|
||
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|
||
|
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#: 12726 S15/Hot Topics
|
||
|
|
27-Oct-91 21:39:07
|
||
|
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Sb: uploads
|
||
|
|
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
|
||
|
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To: sysop (X)
|
||
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|
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|
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|
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I have uploaded the following files to dl15. FST_TC.70, TC70.INF and G_WIN.INF
|
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|
||
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|
||
|
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I also erred and uploaded to other files that I ask you to delete. That, BTW is
|
||
|
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what the files say.
|
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|
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|
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Thanks
|
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|
||
|
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Frank Hogg
|
||
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|
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|
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#: 12729 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
||
|
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27-Oct-91 23:12:49
|
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|
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Sb: #Disk Controller Needed
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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Does anyone have a DISTO SCII they would like to sell? Mine crapped out after
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years of service and I can't boot my CoCo3 now. If none are available, does
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anyone have a Radio Shack disk controller they would like to sell cheap? At
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least I can boot with that.
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Thanks in advance, Mark
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#: 12742 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 08:23:37
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Sb: #12729-#Disk Controller Needed
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Fm: David Betz 76704,47
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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I've got an extra RS disk controller you can have. Just send me your address
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and I'll mail it out.
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#: 12751 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 22:03:21
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Sb: #12742-Disk Controller Needed
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: David Betz 76704,47
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David,
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Thanks!!!! I sure do need something. Until I can fix the SCII, I'm stuck
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without most of my applications. Although I have the MM/1, I do all my
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financial and word processing on the CoCo3. Sure hurts to be without it for so
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long......I have no idea what my bank balance is right now!!
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My address:
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Mark Grifith
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953 W. Wisconsin Ave.
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DeLand FL 32720
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Let mw know what you want for it.
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Mark
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#: 12731 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 00:33:32
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Sb: #Changing /dd
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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In "The Rainbow Guide To OS-9 Level II:...", the author talks about /dd and
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mentions that it's possible for /dd to point to a RAMdisk since /dd is merely a
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copy of a device descriptor. Since this is a change I want to effect, can I
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make a copy of my /r0_256.dd and patch to name it DD, then insert it into my
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os9boot where I now have /ddd0_40d.dd? If my scheme won't work, what ought I
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do instead?
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#: 12735 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 03:51:53
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Sb: #12731-#Changing /dd
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Yup, that should work fine (patching a copy of R0 to be DD). Of course, make
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sure your startup file doesn't do any /dd references <grin>... unless the
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needed files are already copied out to the ramdisk.
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The only problem I can think of, would happen if your Init or Sysgo modules had
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been patched to look for /dd. Just take a look at them and make sure.
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best - kev
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#: 12743 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 08:59:49
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Sb: #12735-#Changing /dd
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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I've never patched Init. I don't have a SysGo but my CC3Go has never been
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patched either. (Were you thinking of Level 1?(g)). Why would these be
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patched to point to /dd? My guess is for those who have a hard drive and want
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a ddh0_80.dd or whatever, right?
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#: 12747 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Oct-91 18:02:57
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Sb: #12743-Changing /dd
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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GRIN. Right on /dd. And right after I posted, I realized that I was thinking
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of "sysgo" for the 68K systems :-) But I knew you'd know what I meant to say.
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I think my brain is rotting away!
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thx - kev
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#: 12732 S7/Telecommunications
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28-Oct-91 00:42:19
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Sb: #Quick-B Problems
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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I've been using STerm 1.5 with the Quick-B option enabled, and whenever I
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download in Quick-B I get a lot of errors, esp. in the beginning of the
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transfer. On a 100K file, STerm's error count increased much faster than the
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block count for the first 15K or so, then slowed down--but I had errors til the
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end. This problem happens with every download in Quick-B and never happens
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with a download in regular B where I may have downloaded files as large as 200K
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with no errors. These downloads are usually at 2400bps though I have tried
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1200. I used esc-d to set the directory to r0 prior to logging on. I am using
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/t2 under ACIAPAK with an expanded buffer though I intend to install SACIA
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soon. The RS-232 pak is the "Marty Goodman pak" sold by CoCoPRO! and the modem
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is a Supra 2400 which does not support compression or error correction. Is
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there anything I can do about this problem?
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#: 12739 S7/Telecommunications
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28-Oct-91 07:45:15
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Sb: #12732-#Quick-B Problems
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich,
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Do you have the IRQ hack installed? If you're missing interupts, you'll see the
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type of problem you describe with B+ protocol.
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Steve
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#: 12754 S7/Telecommunications
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28-Oct-91 22:55:16
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Sb: #12739-#Quick-B Problems
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Along this thread: I installed the newest version of STERM (1.5?) and also
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SACIA and am using a Disto Deluxe RS-232 pak. When downloading with Quick-B to
|
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/r0 I get about 1 error every 10 blocks; not as many as Eric but I used to get
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NO errors. Seems to me this corresponded in time to when CIS changed their
|
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library software again. Any ideas?
|
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Paul R.
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#: 12760 S7/Telecommunications
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29-Oct-91 07:35:49
|
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Sb: #12754-Quick-B Problems
|
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
|
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|
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Interesting Paul!
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|
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While it's easy to pin the blame on the XDL software recently installed, I've
|
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not heard of anyone else (outside our forums) reporting protocol type errors.
|
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|
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And wouldn't have expected to, either. But I'll keep my eyes peeled.
|
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|
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I'd look towards anything that may be different on your setup. Are you running
|
||
|
|
any background process while downloading? Do you get the same errors while
|
||
|
|
uploading?
|
||
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|
||
|
|
What did you use before installing SACIA? Were you using the irqhak at the
|
||
|
|
time, and now have discontinued it's use because of SACIA?
|
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|
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|
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Get the magnifying glass out, and look for the obvious. It's generally the
|
||
|
|
culprit with things like this.
|
||
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|
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|
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(By the way .... I've not experienced any problems with errors after the XDL
|
||
|
|
software came down. But I'm also using the irqhak.)
|
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Steve
|
||
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#: 12744 S9/Utilities
|
||
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28-Oct-91 09:04:05
|
||
|
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Sb: #Undeleting Files
|
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
|
||
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To: ALL
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|
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Is there a reliable Undelete utility for OS-9 available anywhere? Fortunately
|
||
|
|
I've so far never needed one but my day will come.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 12761 S9/Utilities
|
||
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29-Oct-91 07:35:57
|
||
|
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Sb: #12744-Undeleting Files
|
||
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Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
|
||
|
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Erich,
|
||
|
|
I don't know of an "undelete" utility per se, but have used "fsedit" to get me
|
||
|
|
out of a jam or two. It requires a pretty good understanding of the os9 file
|
||
|
|
system and can really mess up a disk if not used carefully. It most definitely
|
||
|
|
*can* be used to "undelete" a file, assuming the blocks freed up by the
|
||
|
|
original delete (unlink()) have not been re-used.
|
||
|
|
You will have to run "dcheck" and let it fix the thing after you "undelete" a
|
||
|
|
file because you will now be using blocks marked as free.
|
||
|
|
I would download it (I *think* it was in the utilities database) and
|
||
|
|
experiment on a floppy disk that you format and "dsave" a few files and
|
||
|
|
directories to so you can trash it and just re-format and start over.
|
||
|
|
Of course, you would want a complete backup before "fixing" anything with
|
||
|
|
"fsedit".
|
||
|
|
Good luck (you'll need it)!
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Mark
|
||
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|
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#: 12755 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
||
|
|
28-Oct-91 22:57:58
|
||
|
|
Sb: Mystery Lockup
|
||
|
|
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
|
||
|
|
To: Kevin Darling
|
||
|
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|
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|
|
Here's a real wierd problem.
|
||
|
|
I have a Coco3 with 1Meg memory, kernal patch installed to
|
||
|
|
recognize this memory;
|
||
|
|
Disto SCII no halt floppy controller with 3 in 1 board
|
||
|
|
installed. The serial port here is /t3 and is connected to
|
||
|
|
a remote terminal at 9600 baud. CC3Disk.slp is the driver
|
||
|
|
used with the controller. SACIA is the driver for the serial
|
||
|
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ports;
|
||
|
|
Another serial port /t2 which is one of those DCM kit
|
||
|
|
things. This is connected to a printer;
|
||
|
|
Another serial port /t1 which is a Disto Deluxe RS-232 pak.
|
||
|
|
This is connected to a modem;
|
||
|
|
A Burke & Burke CocoXT hard disk adapter connected to a
|
||
|
|
58 Meg MFM hard drive.
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
Here is the problem: Everything worked fine until I hooked
|
||
|
|
up a remote terminal to /t3. If I boot up the system all is
|
||
|
|
well. If I go 'shell i=/t3&' all is still well and I get an
|
||
|
|
OS9 prompt on the remote terminal. If I run any commands from
|
||
|
|
the remote, like mdir which works fine, the next time I go to
|
||
|
|
make a disk access from the host, the system locks up. A disk
|
||
|
|
access from the remote also locks up the system. There are no
|
||
|
|
"sparklies" when it locks up but the keyboard will not respond
|
||
|
|
and I can't change windows with the 'clear' key. As long as I
|
||
|
|
don't send any commands from the remote, the disk accesses work
|
||
|
|
normally. I am using Shell+v2.1 if that matters.
|
||
|
|
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|
||
|
|
Paul R.
|
||
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#: 12756 S3/Languages
|
||
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28-Oct-91 23:03:38
|
||
|
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Sb: Old Computer Books
|
||
|
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
|
||
|
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To: Brother Jeremy
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Caught the thread on 6809 assembler books and someone asked "where do all
|
||
|
|
the old computer books go". I don't usually plug stores but this one is pretty
|
||
|
|
interesting:
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Business & Computer Bookstore
|
||
|
|
BBS: 215-657-6130 2400/1200/300
|
||
|
|
Voice: 215-657-8300 or 800-233-0233
|
||
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|
||
|
|
213 N. Easton Rd.
|
||
|
|
Willow Grove, Pa. 19090
|
||
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|
||
|
|
They show up at the local hamfests out here and have a fairly large
|
||
|
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selection.
|
||
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|
Paul R.
|
||
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#: 12762 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
||
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29-Oct-91 12:40:15
|
||
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Sb: Kwindows for the TC70
|
||
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
|
||
|
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To: Kevin Darling
|
||
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|
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Kevin.... Frank Hogg has indicated that KWindows can be purchased for the TC70.
|
||
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|
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|
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He said you could advise of the cost of KWindows for the TC70.
|
||
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|
||
|
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Please advise me either here, or email, about the cost of these windows.
|
||
|
|
(Please read my private mail to you regarding this....)
|
||
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Thanks.
|
||
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||
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jim Sutemeier
|
||
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Press <CR> !>
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