textfiles/messages/ALANWESTON/1991/CIS10_05.txt

#: 12438 S1/General Interest
    28-Sep-91  16:58:57
Sb: #12435-#FILE FINDER
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

Joerg,

The cross-library searching will be introduced in all forums, sooner or later.
Forums rotate as to which ones are test forums for new stuff, and we're just
not on that list right now :-)  So hang on, shouldn't be long before all forums
have that feature.

PS: speaking of keywords, have you ever tried this: just typing "key" in a
library?  It lists all the keywords people have used.  Sometimes handy.

kev

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#: 12455 S1/General Interest
    30-Sep-91  17:59:03
Sb: #12438-FILE FINDER
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

using KEY did not qccour to me. Thanks

#: 12443 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-91  10:15:07
Sb: #12435-FILE FINDER
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

Joerg,

Latest on the across library search software is that it hits the general forums
mid to late October. As a result of the testing you've run across in the UNIX
forum (and a few other beta sites) a few more performance issues are being fine
tuned.

Hang in there!

Steve

#: 12450 S1/General Interest
    30-Sep-91  01:56:07
Sb: #12435-#FILE FINDER
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

Adding to what Steve said....

 In other words, it ain't ready, yet.  But they're working on it.

Just FYI, Joerg, all of the forums run the same software, in general.  There
are some forums that are beta testing upcoming software features/bugs, so what
happens in one forum will generally propagate to all of the forums in due time.

Wayne

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#: 12456 S1/General Interest
    30-Sep-91  18:01:33
Sb: #12450-FILE FINDER
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)

Thanks. Still and all this is still the best source of INFO. that I have found
so far. I thank you for your encouraging words.       Joerg

#: 12439 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Sep-91  19:11:43
Sb: #12436-File Structure
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete,

I followed the info that James gave me and it took care of the problem! Now
according to DCHECK everything is fine and "intact".

Thank you for your input!

Bob



#: 12440 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    28-Sep-91  21:12:56
Sb: #12417-Intercept
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Roy Dacus 70721,1113 (X)

Thanks Roy. I'm not sure exactly what the code is doing -- I'll have to print
it out and study. Yes, I was the one wanting to do the longjmp() out of the
intercept (well, I don't nesc. *want* to do it, I was trying to find out if I
could and don't forget that this started with just wanting to do I/O in the
intercept which I guess is okay now). But with all the problems being created
it might be better to forget the longjmp() stuff and just do an exec() or
whatever and restart the program. It seems to me that this would ensure a
cleanup. Guess that one could pass some params to the 'new' program telling
that this is a re-start -- might even use a data module for intitialized
variables.

#: 12441 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Sep-91  23:09:16
Sb: #HardDrive_Hlp
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: All

Dear Friends:

Recently, I was given a Harddrive packaged by the Integra Company. It contains
a Seagate 178N HD and power supply. While it is originally for the MAC the
internal cable mate up with the cable from my DISTO 4-in-1. It is possible that
there may be a sector problem on the HD, but I was able to get it to lowlevel
format under RSDOS. Here begins, the problems. I have had the SC-2 and 4-in-1
hooked to my COCO3 with 512k and a model 26_3124 Multipak for almost two years.
The only part of the 4-in-1 that I have used so far is the RTC. This did not
require the nine volt power supply to work. I plugged in the nine volt adapter,
supplied by DISTO and I could no longer get a directory under RSDOS or OS9. If
I turned the power supply off, then I could get it. Next I booted up OS9. I
loaded in the following modules and CMDS from the DISTO disk:
cchdisk_SCSI_LII.dr, h0_4in1SCSI.dd, and HMODE. I then did an mdir and got:

   Module Directory at 21:08:17 REL       Boot      OS9p1     OS9p2     Init
IOMan    RBF CC3Disk   D0 D1        DD        SCF       CC3IO     WindInt  
Term     W   W1        W2 W3        W4        W5        W6        W7        W8
W9  W10       W11 W12       PRINTER   P         SIO       T2        ACIAPAK  T1
CC3Go     Clock GrfDrv    Shell     Copy      Date      DeIniz    Del      Dir
Display   Echo Iniz      Link      List      Load      MDir      Merge    Mfree
Procs Rename    Setime    Tmode     Unlink    gshell    vi       CCHDisk      
H0 dmode

Next I did Hmode/h0 and got /h0 cyls=615 hds=4 step=0 sectrk=32 sectrk0=32
alloc=1 ilv=5 initcmd=00 inittbl=026704008000400b000000000000000000000000

I loaded format, and made sure it was then, I typed Format /h0 r
"OS9_HardDrive" as per the instruction in the docs by Brian Lantz and received
a 208 Illegal service request error. It makes no difference if the nine volt
adapter is on or off. In case it matters

Mfree showed

 Blk Begin   End   Blks  Size
 --- ------ ------ ---- ------
  17  2E000  75FFF   24   288k
                   ==== ======
            Total:   24   288k

Previously, under a different system master, I received a 237 System ram full
error. What am I doing wrong? Do you think that it is a

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#: 12442 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Sep-91  23:12:50
Sb: #12441-#HardDrive_Hlp
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

(Sorry I got cut off) Do you think that it is a hardware problem or what. I
found that I could not save this message to TSEDIT until I shut off the nine
volt adapter, so that seems to be a problem. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 12481 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  18:55:41
Sb: #12442-HardDrive_Hlp
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Dear Friends: Please see msg. 12441, and msg. 12442 re: my problems with my
hard drive and Disto Super Controller 2. Any help in solving this probelm will
be deeply appreciated. Thank you,

Br. Jeremy, CSJW.

#: 12444 S7/Telecommunications
    29-Sep-91  13:44:29
Sb: #wizpro
Fm: Ben Pischke 73730,1746
To: Bill Brady, 70126,267 (X)

I have tried to download wizpro but cannot find wizpr3.ar. Can you help me to
get this part of the program?

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#: 12477 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-91  16:19:25
Sb: #12444-wizpro
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ben Pischke 73730,1746

I believe that for the update part 3 is not needed. (the latest version is in 2
parts.)

#: 12445 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-91  18:29:01
Sb: SCRED
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: anyone

Recently tried using SCRED in the dev. pack, but came up short.   Seems my
termset file is error; I used the values in the example for the COCO as asked
by MAKETERM which placed termset in  /d0/sys and now scred will boot but
doesn't look or act right (but I'm not sure what 'right' is).   Are there any
tutorials for scred?    -ph- 

#: 12447 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    29-Sep-91  21:18:19
Sb: Intercept
Fm: Roy Dacus 70721,1113
To: Bob van der Poel

Well if you don't want to longjmp, the next program lets you return.  Both
programs keep OSK happy with a F$RTE for each signal caught.  All I do is
change the return address on the stack.

#: 12448 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    29-Sep-91  21:19:50
Sb: Intercept
Fm: Roy Dacus 70721,1113
To: Bob van der Poel

/* sigs.c */
/* a program to show that after you catch a signal you can */
/* do anything */
/* runs best after a "$ Tmode nopause;load date" */
/* control E to end  *   control C to test */

#include <stdio.h>

/* start of stuff for tcept */
unsigned long _afunc1;
unsigned long _afunc2;
unsigned long _afunc3;
/* end of stuff for tcept */

unsigned long count1;

c1check(signum)
int signum;
{
    if (signum != 3)
        exit(signum);
}

c2check()
{
    system("date");
}

c3check(signum)
int signum;
{
}

numpr()
{
    int count;
    long place;
    count = 0;
    place = (long)&count;
    printf("%lu\n",place);
}

main()
{
    int time1;
    count1=0;
    tcept(c1check,c2check,c3check);
    while(1) {
        printf("%lu\n",count1++);
        if (count1%24==0)
            numpr();
        for (time1=0; time1<5000; time1++);
    }
}

#asm
* * * * *
* void tcept(func1,func2,func3)
* int (*func1)()
* int (*func2)()
* int (*func3)()
* tcept (Twin interCEPT)
* A intercept replacement that lets you do anything.
* notes:
* func1 is run just like in intercept().
* Thats means the following:
* 1: you can not call any function that calls F$SigMask,
* F$Sleep or F$Wait as they will unmask.  This is just like
* intercept().
* 2: you can not do a longjmp().  This is just like
* intercept().
* 3: keep it short.  This is just like intercept().
* 
* func2 is run just like any other function.
* Thats means the following:
* 1: anything you can do in any other funtion you
* can do in this one.
* 2: you can longjmp(). But you have to run tcept() again.
* 3: you can exit().
* 4: you can run intercept().
*
* func3 is the intercept function went func2 is running.
* Same conditions as func1.
* (continued)

#: 12449 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    29-Sep-91  21:21:08
Sb: Intercept
Fm: Roy Dacus 70721,1113
To: Bob van der Poel

tcept: move.l a0,-(a7) save a0
 move.l d0,a0 temp save of -> one
 beq.b _tcept1 if zero jump and tell os9 to turn off intercept
 move.l a0,_afunc1(a6) real save of -> one
 move.l 8(a7),a0 get -> to three
 move.l a0,_afunc3(a6) save of -> three
 move.l d1,_afunc2(a6) save of -> two
 lea.l _tcept2(pc),a0 get -> to inside me
_tcept1 os9 F$Icpt tell os9
 move.l (a7)+,a0 restore a0
 rts
*
_tcept2 move.l d1,d0 put signal in right place
 move.l _afunc1(a6),a0 -> to func1
 jsr (a0) run func1
 lea.l _tcept3(pc),a0 new intercept function to use for func2
 os9 F$Icpt tell os9
 pea _tcept2(pc) old intercept ->
 pea _tcept4(pc) return address to me
 move.l _afunc2(a6),a0 -> to func2
 move.l a0,-(a7) return address for F$RTE
 move.w 76(a7),a0 get old sr (base=64 plus a 3 long push)
 move.w a0,-(a7) sr
 move.l a7,a0 get a7
 addq.l #6,a0 adjust address
 move.l a0,-(a7) a7
 move.l a6,-(a7) a6
 clr.l d0
 move.l a5,-(a7) a5
 move.l a4,-(a7) a4
 move.l a3,-(a7) a3
 move.l a2,-(a7) a2
 move.l a1,-(a7) a1
 move.l d0,-(a7) a0
 move.l d7,-(a7) d7
 move.l d6,-(a7) d6
 move.l d5,-(a7) d5
 move.l d4,-(a7) d4
 move.l d3,-(a7) d3
 move.l d2,-(a7) d2
 move.l d0,-(a7) d1
 move.l d0,-(a7) d0
 os9 F$RTE run func2 with func3 as the intercept function
*
_tcept3 move.l d1,d0 put signal in right place
 move.l _afunc3(a6),a0 -> to func3
 jsr (a0) run func3
 os9 F$RTE this is a real F$RTE
*
_tcept4 move.l (a7)+,a0 old intercept ->
 os9 F$Icpt tell os9
 movem.l (a7)+,d0-d7/a0-a7 restore all regs
 rtr return with cc
#endasm

#: 12452 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Sep-91  06:07:01
Sb: #12421-#Case-sensitive sterm
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Hi,

Yes, you're right!  I never used uppercase options so I never saw that.  An
oversight on my part.  I'll fix it and reupload the package.

Thanks, Mark

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#: 12453 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Sep-91  10:12:46
Sb: #12452-Case-sensitive sterm
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

The only reason why I pointed this out is because my local Tymnet node seems to
prefer that I use ALL CAPS when I call to logon to Delphi. When I go to log on
there, I normally set all caps first and then start the term program.  Since
fixing the problem is, I don't believe, a major change, perhaps a small IPatch
would be more appropos than a big reupload.

#: 12486 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-91  20:30:41
Sb: #12421-#Case-sensitive sterm
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,

There are many OS9 programs that have case sensitive arguments. This is even
more prevalent with OSK, the "ls" command distributed with the MM/1 has
arguments that _must_ be specified as upper case. I know of several programs
for which arguments with the same letter mean totally different things as upper
or lower case.

I see that in this case :), Mark has elected to change Sterm to be case
insensitive, which, as the program author, is his choice.

Bill

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#: 12489 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-91  23:16:09
Sb: #12486-Case-sensitive sterm
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Normally, case sensitivity in a program does not bother me.  It's just that
with a terminal program, I was hoping for insensitivity because a service I use
a lot "prefers" all-caps for my logons.  Since Ultimaterm always puts me in
all-caps as soon as I drop into terminal mode, I wanted to continue along this
line by being in all-caps as soon as STerm has me in terminal mode.  I've found
that under Ulterm, if I call CIS before them, I usually forget to restore all
caps and am not reminded until Tymnet refuses to get me through.  And Tymnet
won't let me through to the service unless my full logon procedure is
absolutely flawless.  One lowercase or mistyped character and I have to hang up
and redial.  I did complain to their customer service. They acknowledged the
situation but said there is nothing they can do about it.  My sole intention of
starting the thread was for purposes of easier OS-9 logon to that service, not
to stir up trouble.

#: 12454 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Sep-91  10:26:04
Sb: #12413-#Sterm 1.5
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 (X)

Bob,

Good news! One other thing that has driven me nuts before, CIS keeps a
different set of options for each baud rate. This can come in handy, but is
usually just one more thing to have to remember.

Bill

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#: 12517 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Oct-91  12:47:29
Sb: #12454-Sterm 1.5
Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523

But of course - and now you have just explained how the fool thing got to be
different!  I just switched to a 2400 baud modem.  Wonder though why the 300
baud did the same because I have occasionally used that rate for mail browsing
(cheap you know).  Probably some scheme to "encourage" use of CIS's own
software ignoring the fact that at least on here it is of no consequence to
probably the majority of the users.  Oh well.

#: 12457 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    30-Sep-91  23:02:32
Sb: Upload Problem
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Mike Ward, 76703,2013 (X)

I think that my upload should be called Threed.ar. I am afraid that if someone
doesn't notice that it is Ar'd, they might have trouble
 when it comes time to unarc it.--Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 12458 S1/General Interest
    30-Sep-91  23:42:54
Sb: #12374-OS/2
Fm: GENE TURNBOW 72457,220
To: Art Doyle 71565,262

Unfortunately, there is a widening chasm of opinion as to which product will be
supported as the OS of the 90's, OS/2 or Microsoft's new contender which pretty
much uses WINDOWS as the primary interface.

Microsoft isn't doing OS/2 anymore, they've completely pulled away from it. The
beta version of OS/2 v2.0 is the only version of it there will ever be. IBM is
continuing without the support of Microsoft, but you can imagine how far that's
going to go.  IBM hopelessly screwed up the two tries at DOS they wrote all by
themselves.  I have no faith in their ability to keep the OS/2 ball rolling,
especially considering that it had hardly gotten started.

#: 12460 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    01-Oct-91  10:27:05
Sb: #Logo
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: All

 Ever since I got my CoCo3 and OS9 Level II and CM-8 monitor, I have been
disappointed by not being able to use my D.L. Logo the way I could on my CoCo2
with Level 1. So many things don't work anymore, especially the color, but also
the SSC and the SAY primitive. I got around the problem with the SAY primitive
by booting Level I again, but I still would like to get color back with my
CM-8. I'm pretty fair at assembler, though I don't have an assembler for OS9.
The various tricks around for changing the use of artifact colors haven't
seemed to work on D.L. Logo, so I'm wondering if I could somehow disassemble
the program code and find a way to use the newer color modes. I realize this is
a long shot, but I miss my turtle so much. I want to teach my kids Logo, but I
don't want them to have to go through the hastle of unplugging the CM-8 and
plugging in a TV whenever they want to push the turtle around. Any thoughts?
 Rex




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#: 12505 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    03-Oct-91  22:21:05
Sb: #12460-#Logo
Fm: Steve Ostrom 74730,345
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

Not knowing enuff to help you reprogram logo for thr cm8 , I will offer a
suggestion about the tv/monitor. Why unplug the cm8? do you have to move the
monitor or the computer? The computer should be able to handle both screens
easily.

I have run a mono monitor and the cm8 sucessfully.


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#: 12510 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    04-Oct-91  18:45:17
Sb: #12505-Logo
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: Steve Ostrom 74730,345

Steve,
 I may be wrong, but the last time I had a CM-8 and a TV plugged in
simultaneously, the TV showed black and white. It seems that the CoCo knows if
it has something plugged in the CM-8 port and can't do the artifacting when it
does.
 Rex



#: 12461 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Oct-91  10:27:15
Sb: #Age old deskmate problem
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: All

 I know this is a tired old question, but my 6809 on my CoCo3 went bad and I
couldn't get my disk drive to work. I finally bought a new CoCo3 while waiting
for a 68B09 chip to arrive from JDR Microdevices. So now, back to the subjects
I was working on before everything came to a screeching halt. I have a CoCo3,
128K, MPI and FD502 disk drive. I have the Modem Pak and Deskmate. What do I
have to do to get Deskmate to use the Modem Pak?
 Rex



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#: 12462 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Oct-91  11:42:11
Sb: #12461-#Age old deskmate problem
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

Rex -

I think you need to specify that /M1 is the communications device, instead of
/T1 or /T2.

I think we just went through this with another user... perhaps Steve Wegert's
memory is a touch sharper than mine... Steve?

Pete

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#: 12501 S7/Telecommunications
    03-Oct-91  11:48:34
Sb: #12462-#Age old deskmate problem
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete,
 OK, I went and specified /M1, which, of course, didn't work since my Deskmate
boot disk doesn't load that driver, neither does it load /T1. I do have the
DCM-6 modem that hooks into the bit banger. I assume this is /T1.
 What is the best way to add /M1 to my Deskmate configuration?
  Rex



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#: 12508 S7/Telecommunications
    04-Oct-91  15:50:02
Sb: #12501-#Age old deskmate problem
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

Ugh...

Essentially you'll need to build a new bootfile using your favorite tool (i.e.
either OS9GEN, COBBLER, or CONFIG).

I believe that M1's associated driver is ACIAPAK. If that is true (you can do a
'dump M1' on the M1 device descriptor module on your disk and verify that it
says ACIAPAK), if your standard kernel already has ACIAPAK in it, you're not
too far off.... You can put the disk with M1 on it in the drive and type
something like:

   load /d1/modules/M1.dd

to get it into memory, and then insert your deskmate disk into a drive and type
something like:

  cobbler /d? (where ? is the target drive)

If none of this looks like it will work, you'll need to 'hand build' a new
kernel. That involves taking your current bootfile, splitting it into modules
(get the bootsplit utility in DL9 or DL10), making a list of them, and then
adding the M1 to both the list and the group of modules. Then you'd use OS9Gen
to glue them all together again, uisng the list to drive OS9Gen's input.

Let me know how (or if) you fare....

Pete



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#: 12511 S7/Telecommunications
    04-Oct-91  18:45:25
Sb: #12508-Age old deskmate problem
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230

Pete,
 You've given me some more things to try. I tried using "config" but it didn't
work. I'll try what you suggest about "load /d1/modues/M1.dd" and the
"cobbler".
 Thanks.
  Rex



#: 12463 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Oct-91  13:14:04
Sb: #12461-Age old deskmate problem
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

There is a help file in the DL's somewhere.  Try Libs 1 and 7, maybe 10. (We
need that new cross-lib forum software!).  Just BRO KEY:DESKMATE and you'll
probably find it.

#: 12464 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    01-Oct-91  18:37:24
Sb: deldir bug
Fm: Marcelo Katzeff 72520,640
To: all

I would like to know if anyone has a patch or new version of the deldir
command. You wonder why I'm asking for such thing if deldir is not bad utility.
OK, the problem is I found a HUGE bug in it. Let say you want to delete a
directory and you didn't realize that the disk is write protect, so you type
deldir /f0 <directory_name> and deldir insted give you an error 242 it keeps
trying for ever. Any help will be appreciate.

Marcelo.



#: 12465 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    01-Oct-91  19:53:57
Sb: #coco iii boot os9
Fm: harold park 72737,3273
To: all

I just purchased level II os-9. I worked with version 1.01 of os-9 several
years ago. I have no "dos" command on my coco III. I remember a simple basic
m/l loader that i used with 1.01 to boot os-9. If anyone has a loader for
someone in my situation or can point me to where I can find one please let me
know. ---Thanks Harry







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#: 12473 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  09:36:49
Sb: #12465-coco iii boot os9
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: harold park 72737,3273 (X)

Harry,
 The same loader works. You can find it in just about any manual that comes
with an OS9 program for the CoCo.
 Rex



#: 12466 S9/Utilities
    01-Oct-91  22:26:09
Sb: #Binary File Editing
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

dEd's D command (<D>iddle with file length) always removes bytes from the end
of a file.  What would be the best way for me to remove a binary file's FIRST
128 bytes?  This is for a non-executable binary file.

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#: 12467 S9/Utilities
    01-Oct-91  23:06:10
Sb: #12466-#Binary File Editing
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

The easiest way would be for someone to write or port the "tail" utility. I
happen to have source for such a thing that a friend of mine wrote some years
back.  I may have already uploaded it.  If I haven't, or it's been offloaded
from the DLs here, let me know and I could upload it (possibly again).

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#: 12475 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  13:04:20
Sb: #12467-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I checked under the key of "tail" as that seemed most likely to "hit" if the
program is there.  I did this in Libs 5, 6, 9, 10, and 11.  I even checked Lib
12 even though I can't support it.  Delphi has something like that for the
68000 only so I thought I might see if your util would be a 68000 thing as
well.  In all the Lib searches I came up empty.  As I do have the catalog files
for most Libs downloaded, I'll make a more exhaustive offline search.

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#: 12491 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  23:57:08
Sb: #12475-Binary File Editing
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

If I uploaded it, it would be in C source form--and it works just as well on
the 6809 as on the 68000.  Let me know what turns up.

#: 12496 S9/Utilities
    03-Oct-91  04:04:41
Sb: #12475-Binary File Editing
Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,

Ask Wayne to upload tail68.ar in Lib 5.

Bob

#: 12498 S9/Utilities
    03-Oct-91  06:19:06
Sb: #12475-Binary File Editing
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich, I'll upload TAIL09.AR and TAIL68.AR to Lib 5 tonight when I get home. I
should have them on my offline archive disks.

#: 12478 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  16:53:35
Sb: #12466-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich -

I wrote a program called "fed" that did this sort of thing. May be in DL5 or
DL9.

Pete

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12490 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  23:23:57
Sb: #12478-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Are you sure the program is still available for download?  I checked Libs 5, 6,
9, 10, and 11 using FED as a filename and as a key.  I then went back to each
and used "edit" as a key.  I turned up nothing.

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12507 S9/Utilities
    04-Oct-91  15:38:03
Sb: #12490-Binary File Editing
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Eric -

If that's the case, then perhaps it's in the great bit bucket. The procedure
Bruce Mackenzie showed you is essentially all you need to do. The same can be
done in BASIC or BASIC09 easily (in fact the original FED was written in B09).

If I still had a C Compiler on an 09 machine, I'd write you a quicky tool.

Pete

#: 12484 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  19:47:45
Sb: #12466-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,
 If you have access to a C compiler the following should do the trick:

 #include <stdio.h>

 main()
 {
      char c;

      fseek(stdin,129l,0);

      while(fread(&c,1,1,stdin) != 0)
           fwrite(&c,1,1,stdin);
 }

 This would produce a program that would copy a file from standard input to
standard output minus the first 128 bytes.  You'd call the program with i/o
redirection, ie chop <inputfile >outputfile.  By the way, thats an ell in 129l
not a one.  I would imagine you could do the same thing just as easily in
basic09 if you're not into C.

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#: 12488 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  23:06:34
Sb: #12484-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376 (X)

I have been wanting to get a C compiler but I no longer hold out any hope of
getting Tandy's.  Maybe the SmallC on Delphi will suffice.  With the source
code you gave I may be able to translate this into Basic09 as you had said.  So
far I've had little success with doing disk operations in B09 though I am
finally starting to "get the hang of it".  Despite the hassle of two transfers,
I also wonder about the potential of doing this under DECB.  The only binary
editing I've ever done in DECB is with a dEd-like disk zapper utility.

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12513 S9/Utilities
    04-Oct-91  21:25:34
Sb: #12488-#Binary File Editing
Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,
 You could do it in DECB but it would be a hassle.  I had a look at tail09.ar
which someone else suggested and it appears to be line oriented and not really
what you want.  Tell you what I'll hack together a little utility and upload it
here.  Look for trim.ar in LIB 9.  Should show up tomorrow or the next day.

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12514 S9/Utilities
    04-Oct-91  23:02:29
Sb: #12513-Binary File Editing
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376 (X)

Thanks for the upload Bruce. It's in the hopper for the early morning
merge-o-matic.




#: 12485 S9/Utilities
    02-Oct-91  19:51:48
Sb: #12466-Binary File Editing
Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Ah, make that fwrite(&c,1,1,stdout) not fwrite(&c,1,1,stdin).

#: 12499 S9/Utilities
    03-Oct-91  07:04:51
Sb: #12466-Binary File Editing
Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich:

If you have tsed or tsedit, you can edit a binary file with it.  Not really
easy to delete 128 bytes at the beginning, but possible.  Try a series of "8x"
commands (16 of them).  That will remove the 1st 128 bytes.

#: 12468 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    01-Oct-91  23:12:33
Sb: Maudlin Ramblings
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: All

Sigh....I've just packed up and sent off my CoCo 3 to Oklahoma, where I will
set it up for my niece to use, and maybe others in my family, if I can be
persuasive enough.

I have a CoCo 3 sitting in a case, waiting for eventual use, but right now my
main computer is my MM/1, on which I'm typing this message.

It's kind of sad, in a way.  Maybe this weekend in Atlanta I can drink a toast
to my CoCo.  I *will* get a 6809 system back up and going eventually, though;
not to do so just doesn't seem right.

#: 12469 S15/Hot Topics
    02-Oct-91  00:48:26
Sb: #11972-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Soon is like amonth or two, now that the needed OSK device drivers are starting
to appear, and I figured how to do without double-click detection on the mouse.
Yeah, ya can't beta test without really flogging the stuff, tho you could judge
eas-of-learning for new user. Tho you used shareware UME way back when, and the
"real" version too?

As for the DelMar machine, if it had grafix, I mean real grafix and windows, it
would be dangerous.  In fact, Ida bought one last October. But the MM/1 does
what I need, unlike the PT or TC-9.

#: 12470 S15/Hot Topics
    02-Oct-91  00:51:42
Sb: #11977-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166

Well you don't have to finsih every project -- if you just keep on mousing in
the first couple pages of every Keyboard Mag rock transcription, you'd be doing
a valuable service.

Say, I just put a radical fix into the UME timing so the Play routine should
not lose time or mess up the rhythm, even in House music. This is on Coco3
version.  --mike k

#: 12471 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    02-Oct-91  00:53:08
Sb: #11980-PCoid keyboards & CTRL
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335

OK -- well, I shuda kept a list of 68909 to 68K C problems, but didn't -- and
my brain is trying to repress the memories, grin. But I could probably do enuf
from memrory to be worth a few pages. Will you be at the Fest?  Taking
subscriptions?  --mike k PS: I'll be there.

#: 12472 S15/Hot Topics
    02-Oct-91  00:56:57
Sb: #11981-Serial ports?
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335

Don't recall if you're describing a TC-70 or MM/1, but most modern UARTs go to
External clock if software selectsw the 16th baud rate, so you *should* be able
to wire in a MIDI crystal and have the UART run either normal RS232 rates or
MIDI rate from software. No need for a jumper at all, unless I'm missing
something, like half my brain which this time of nite is normal....mike k

#: 12474 S1/General Interest
    02-Oct-91  09:42:38
Sb: JOB!!
Fm: DAVID BROOKS 76207,1301
To: all

There is currently an available Software Engineers position inj Rochester, NY

for an experienced OS9 / C programmer.  The job is permanent employment. E-mail
to David Brooks at 76207,1301 or call (716)624-5821 days or (716)425-4958
evenings.

Dave

#: 12476 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  16:08:03
Sb: Printer Drivers
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: All

Does anyone here have the additional set of printer drivers that were available
for Home Publisher?  If you're willing to let go of them for a reasonable
price, I know someone that's interested in purchasing them. As I understand,
they were available through RS's Express Order Software, but that product has
been discontinued.  The product number was one of those that started with the
900 prefix e.g. 900-???.

Thanks,

Lee



#: 12482 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  18:58:16
Sb: Hard Ware Trouble
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: ALL

Dear Friends: Please see my messages 12441 and 12442 regarding my hard drive
and DISTO Super Controller 2 problems. Any help will be deeply appreciated.
Thank you,

Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 12483 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  19:27:00
Sb: #COCOIII, OS9, BOOT,DOS
Fm: harold park 72737,3273
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

rex,

following is the prog. I'm trying to use.

5 defusr0=&hd66c:s=1:h=&h27 10
poke&hea,2:poke&heb,0:poke&hec,34:poke&hed,s:poke&hee,h:poke&hef,0 15 a=usr(0)
20 s=s+1:h=h+1 25 if s<19 then 10 30 exec&h270c

Everything works fine until the last line where I get an OM error. It seems
that I did have to mod. the original for some reason but can't remember why.
The old software manuals are lost. I always liked OS-9 but realities made me go
ms-dos. Now I work on Unix machines and am going back to OS-9 to practice my
"C" skills.

By the way this program will work fine If I boot 1.01. The more I think about
It the more I believe the mod. was so os-9 would work in a 64 K machine, which
was all I had at the time.

Thanks in advance for the help --Harry

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12500 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    03-Oct-91  09:57:31
Sb: #12483-COCOIII, OS9, BOOT,DOS
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: harold park 72737,3273 (X)

Harry,
 See my reply on CoCo forum.
  Rex



#: 12487 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    02-Oct-91  20:32:49
Sb: No ink for CGP-220
Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
To: all

I have a CGP-220 printer and now found out RS cannot get the ink paks for it I
only have the ones in it now. (I have a set that are empty) I have heard this
is really a Cannon printer so is it possible to get these paks elsewhere?

if not (worst case senerio here) I have the empty paks and 4 needle syringes
are there other types of ink paks with the same ink that i could suck out and
stick them in the empty paks to re-load them? I assume there are many kinds of
ink so i obvoisly want the right kind of ink for it.

Well I know there are many others with CGP-220 printers so what do you do to
keep it running?

I also have a CGP-115 but that was easy. just pull the pen apart and get those
fountain pen cartridges. put about three drops in , re-assemble it and your
set.

Any help is needed and appreciated. I posted this message on the CoCo sig but
got no responce.

Mike Guzzi



#: 12492 S15/Hot Topics
    03-Oct-91  00:05:12
Sb: More woe
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Mark Griffith 76040,41

Mark;

  Got the MM/1 back yesterday, and installed it tonight.  I noticed that you
had added a jumper between R42 and the 2 end video output pins... What is that
for??

  Actually, it's quite an academic question, as the 48 pin VLSI chip nearest
the video port - BT478KPJ?? - blew itself into bits as soon as I powered it up.

  What now?  I'll try calling Paul in the AM, but don't hold much hope of
getting through, being so near the Fest.

..Jim



#: 12493 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-Oct-91  01:08:14
Sb: I've defected!
Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
To: all

Hi all.  I'm back.  I've "defected".  I bought a friend's Atari 520ST just
yesterday.  It already has a second 512k "strip" to bring it up to 1-meg RAM. 
Just tonight I went to a store that is clearing out its Atari stock (yep
another one is going to be 100% IBM compatible just like Tandy did). Right now
as I type this, I'm testing a 16-MHz 68000 "Turbo16" upgrade *with* Instruction
Cache sorta like the pipeline effect in 386 CPUs.  That board was about 2/3rds
the discount price at this store!  I almost bought Dr.T's Tiger Cub MIDI
system, too, since I have grown weary of waiting for Mike Knudsen to
incorporate the functions we need in his Ultimuse-III.

So ... I'd like to know the status of Atari/OS9?  And whether it has the
windowing system available yet?  I'm serious ... someone try talking me into
buying it.  And maybe someone can give me some good reasons to keep my CoCo? 
(like is the Level-II upgrade seeing the light at the end of that proverbial
tunnel yet?)

-- Thx, Paul Seniura.

#: 12494 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    03-Oct-91  03:48:19
Sb: #12391-#A New Copy/Move utility
Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)

Thanks! I have a question..does the utility 'cp' move files also? I have a copy
of 'cp' but that's not one of its options. I may have an old copy...

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12497 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    03-Oct-91  05:55:10
Sb: #12494-A New Copy/Move utility
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003

My version of "cp" only copies files. No move in my version either so mine must
be at least as old as yours. [:-)




#: 12495 S4/MIDI and Music
    03-Oct-91  03:50:08
Sb: #12409-#Bad Download
Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)

Once the 'Tiger' card is added to the TC9, will it still be able to run RSDOS
programs or just OS9/68000 programs?

There is 1 Reply.

#: 12502 S4/MIDI and Music
    03-Oct-91  12:48:23
Sb: #12495-Bad Download
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003

The Tiger card is a memory enhancement card, and will run under either RSDOS or
OS9, according to a discussion I had with Frank on this subject a few months
ago.

It'll speed up programs run on the 6809 by 2-3 times, Frank says
'conservatively' but a friend of mine, who repairs/works on computers for a
living, tell me more likely, according to the architecture, it should speed up
programs by 5 or 6 fold.

jim Sutemeier



#: 12504 S1/General Interest
    03-Oct-91  22:14:01
Sb: #12230-QNX for PC
Fm: Steve Ostrom 74730,345
To: Robert Hines 76137,1362

Qnx is written by Quantum Software , and I beleive their head office is in
Kanata , Ontario near Ottawa. I have seen ads from them in many pc type
magazines, and I beleive there is even a fido echo for them.
I havent checked for areas here or competeing services.
Qnx is a separate OS tho, it is unix-like but not dorectly compatible, or at
least that is what I have picked up from some of the other areas.

Btw I have used an application running under qnx many years ago. I wasnt
impressed, but it was running on a pc with a cassette port on it.


#: 12506 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    04-Oct-91  07:14:48
Sb: Georgia...Georgia...
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: All

Well, folks...I hope I'll see a lot of you in Atlanta!  It was fun last year,
and it should be even more fun this year.

#: 12509 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    04-Oct-91  17:21:15
Sb: Unix news feeds
Fm: Jim Vestal 70372,3651
To: ALL

I heard that Compuserve offers free access to USENET feeds...how do I read the
comp.os.os9 feed and the other feeds that I used to read when I had an account
on a public Unix feed?

Please send me email since I very selden get into the message bases...
thanks...

Jim

#: 12512 S7/Telecommunications
    04-Oct-91  19:21:07
Sb: Aterm problems
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: all

To the author of Aterm -->  Chris ?????

I apologize, but I deleted out your message and file to me before I saved the
number in my personal area (Guess being a recent new member shows...<G>)

Anyway, I tried out the version of Aterm you sent me, and it locked up my
system every time.  (No menu, no nothing....just a freeze up)

I did get Aterm to 'partially' work once using the aterm.ctl file, but I
haven't been able to duplicate my efforts again.  (The 'partial' working means
a menu came up, but nothing would work after that...)

Anyway, if you've some thoughts, maybe we can work on this further.

What type of machine are you using your 'home' version of Aterm on???

jim Sutemeier



#: 12515 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-91  11:03:07
Sb: STERM & MM/1
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Mark Griffith 76040,41

Hi Mark,

 I was playing with the source from STERM 1.5.1 (from lib 12) last night and I
finally got it to compile on my MM/1.  (It even works, using it at this
moment).  My compiled version is a little longer than the one in the archive,
most likely because I had to make my own "getopt.h" and a couple of ".r" - type
files for the linker.  Since I am not real brilliant in "C", this took a while.
Is there an enhanced library for OSK (like the Kreider libs for Level II on the
COCO) that I missed somewhere?

  My purpose for this exercise is mostly just to learn more about "C" and the
MM/1, next I'm gonna try to add ZMODEM to STERM.

John R. Wainwright

#: 12516 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-91  11:15:28
Sb: MM/1 woe
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: All

  Are there any hardware hackers out there this weekend that didn't go to the
Fest??  Kev P. - are you out there?

  Does anybody know what the 48 pin chip marked BT478KPJ66 is on the MM/1 board
nearest the video out port?  Also see msg. #12492.

  If I could find out what it is and what it does, I might consider trying to
find a replacement this weekend and popping it in, as the one in my MM/1 blew
it's little brains out all over the inside of the case when I powered it on.

  I really don't want to be down for ANOTHER month!  H E L P !!

..Jim



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