textfiles/messages/ALANWESTON/1991/CIS08_12.txt

#: 11633 S3/Languages
    05-Aug-91  20:41:48
Sb: #11620-#Help with C compiler
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Hello Pete: I am using cgfx ver 7 of the lib.

The SRC de i The SRC dir is on the hard drive

The cc that I am using is the one from tandy.

Also the cstart.r

The only thing that I modifided with the cc was for it to look at /dd instead
of /d0 (/dd = 40 Meg hard drive)

Keith

P.S. It did work a while  (while] back.

:>

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#: 11636 S3/Languages
    06-Aug-91  00:59:14
Sb: #11633-#Help with C compiler
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)

There's the problem.. I believe c.prep and possibly c.link also have hard
references  to /d0.... Browse the DL3 area for a definitive listing of patches.

Pete

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#: 11647 S3/Languages
    06-Aug-91  15:27:38
Sb: #11636-#Help with C compiler
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete: I also changed them too.

Any program I try to compile it says that error.

Keith

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#: 11680 S3/Languages
    08-Aug-91  18:34:33
Sb: #11647-#Help with C compiler
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)

Keith -

Pardon the lag... I'm bopping between San Fransisco, Oakland, and Tampa these
days.

Did you browse the DL3 and DL10 areas for CC1 patches? That's probably the best
way to start this.

Pete

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#: 11687 S3/Languages
    09-Aug-91  04:48:01
Sb: #11680-#Help with C compiler
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete:

I figuered it out, I THINK.

I had rma and rlink renamed as c.asm and c.link on the hard drive /dd but not
the module. I THOUGH I DID THAT THOUGH.

I used EZGEN to do the following: ezgen /dd/cmds/c.asm l rma r c.asm v q

Any how it works now, as before this error. I must have copyed the NEW asm ,
rma to the hard disk after I got it and forgot to rename it interenally.

Thanks for the HELP.

Another question, How do you set up a graphics screen under C?

As far as I have gotten is, I can clear the screen and write my name there.

THANKS AGAIN.

Keith

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#: 11729 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  06:50:41
Sb: #11687-Help with C compiler
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413

Keith -

While I'm a long time C fan, I haven't done much graphics work with it... you'd
be better off tweaking either Kevin or Mike Haaland...

Pete

#: 11733 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  18:19:40
Sb: #11687-Help with C compiler
Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413

Keith,
     Here's my standard code for opening up a graphics window from within a C
program:

 #define PATH fileno(wout)

 main() {
      FILE *win,*wout;

      win=fopen("/w","r+");
      wout=fdopen(fileno(win),"w");
      DWSet(PATH,8,0,0,40,24,15,0,0);
      Select(PATH);
 }

This should get you up and going.  If you have any other questions about the
graphics library give a yell.

#: 11634 S15/Hot Topics
    05-Aug-91  21:22:34
Sb: #11586-#MM/1 delivery
Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Hi Paul... This was a long weekend in B.C. and I was gone fishing. Try me this
week sometime - best would be at 7 AM my time - probably 10 AM your time.
That's when I'm just getting started (COFFEE!), etc.

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#: 11650 S15/Hot Topics
    06-Aug-91  21:14:35
Sb: #11634-#MM/1 delivery
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)

Hi Glen. Noticed in your message to Paul that you are a fellow BCer. Nice to
know that I'm not the only OS9er in the whole province! Whereabouts are you?

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#: 11651 S15/Hot Topics
    06-Aug-91  22:39:50
Sb: #11650-#MM/1 delivery
Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Hi Bob... I live in Richmond, right next door to Vancouver. Where are you?
Heard of your program, VED. You're working on a MM/1 version, right? How much?
When available, etc.?

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#: 11655 S15/Hot Topics
    07-Aug-91  00:42:41
Sb: #11651-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)

Hi Glen.  Just thought I would give you a chance to see a message from my new
toy (TC70) Boy is it a good thing that I got this running - this afternoon the
COCO died. Will run happily and run rom games but cannot receive data from the
disks. I can control them - do dirs etc - but just get no data.  Sounds like
that famous replace the 68b09 bug has bit. This comes courtesy STERM 1.51 on
the  TC70 where it runs like a champ - not even recompiled.  Funny thing is it
runs from the screen fine but fails from the /TERM terminal whereas the comms
program supplied with the machine runs from /TERM but dies from the screen
(labelled VT70).  Time to download the source and try to figure things out.



#: 11672 S15/Hot Topics
    07-Aug-91  20:56:52
Sb: #11651-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)

Glen,

Guess we're not exactly neighbours! I live just north of Creston, way over in
the kootenays where the lake is cold, the sun shines a lot and the air is
fresh! I do get out to the coast from time to time -- next time I'll try to
give you call before I come out. Maybe our schedules will mesh and we can get
together.

VED/68000 is available right now! It is $39.95 plus the usual $3.00 s/h. For
folks who've purchased the 6809 version from me in the past there is a small
discount available.

#: 11665 S15/Hot Topics
    07-Aug-91  16:42:46
Sb: #11634-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)

Hope your fishing was great! I have confirmed your order conversion to a kit
and put on high up on the schedule -- we are still shipping out in the order
that they MM/1's were reserved with a deposit, so you're right up there!

Best,

Paul

IMS

#: 11662 S15/Hot Topics
    07-Aug-91  16:38:54
Sb: #11588-#MM/1 delivery
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

<scratch head> I thought RDUMP was on the distribution disks! I'll look. If
not, it will surely be on the disk update we're putting together, with some
new, additional stuff.

Best,

Paul IMS

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#: 11675 S15/Hot Topics
    07-Aug-91  22:03:04
Sb: #11662-#MM/1 delivery
Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul,

Got my MM/1 today.  Had a little trouble getting the drives hooked up, but
after I figured that out it went smoothly.  Still trying everything out!  It
looks good so far, though.

  --Colin

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#: 11742 S15/Hot Topics
    12-Aug-91  22:05:14
Sb: #11675-MM/1 delivery
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360

Colin,

Let me know if you need anything at all. In fact, if you can call me sometime
this week, I'd like to take notes on your reactions.

Best,

Paul

IMS

#: 11635 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    05-Aug-91  23:37:11
Sb: #11632-#COCO in 1 box
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: thomas aubin 70540,1666 (X)

Tom - I'd pick up a copy of Computer Shopper magazine from a newstand or most
bookstores... there are tons of PC cases for sale in there.

You might also check locally for clone sellers...

best - kev

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#: 11649 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Aug-91  21:13:22
Sb: #11635-#COCO in 1 box
Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Thanks Kev,

I'll pick up a copy and check it out.

TOM

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#: 11653 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Aug-91  23:13:45
Sb: #11649-#COCO in 1 box
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: thomas aubin 70540,1666 (X)

Tom - also see MPIMOD.AR, ATCOCO.TXT, and ATCOCO.ADD here in Library 10, if you
don't already have them.  They're files about sticking coco's into XT and AT
cases.

Have fun! - kev

PS: I tried it once in an old Tandy 2000 case.  Tips: be sure to hook up at
least one old floppy to the power supply for testing... those switching
supplies may not turn on enuf juice with just the coco board in there. Second:
some supplies may require a large filter capacitor placed on your 5 volt
connection to the coco.  I think the files may mention this tho.

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#: 11670 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Aug-91  20:22:36
Sb: #11653-COCO in 1 box
Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev,

Thanks for the info on the power supplys. I have already read all but 1 of the
files you mentioned , I'll check that one out next.

FUN, I'll have a ball <grin>

TOM

#: 11637 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Aug-91  03:52:23
Sb: #11631-#telecom parameters
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul,

I believe that Deskmate strips the high order bit (the 8th bit) out of what is
being sent to the display so that loging in at 8N1 makes it appear that
everything is kosher.

If I remember right (and if I don't you can be sure that someone will be here
to set me straight) OS-9's drivers don't have the capability to switch from 7E1
to 8N1 on the fly, once connection has been made.  Thus, switching is a process
of closing the previously open path, changing the parameters, and then
reopening the path.... quite a lot to get done.  Like I said.. if I'm wrong,
someone'll hit me upside the head with the correct info (and I do sometimes get
confused about which computer I'm using at the time).

Wayne

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#: 11639 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Aug-91  06:27:47
Sb: #11637-#telecom parameters
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)

Wayne,

A stat call was added with OS9 LII that allows changing baud rate, word length
and parity on the fly. You are correct, though, about what had to be done with
ACIAPAK under OS9 LI on the CoCo. Even now, some terminal programs do it the
hard way, either because nobody ever changed them, or wanted to keep
compatability with LI.

Bill

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#: 11648 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Aug-91  16:47:17
Sb: #11639-telecom parameters
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,

Thanks...  I never did work with the L2 drivers closely enough to know that
they were different.

Wayne

#: 11638 S1/General Interest
    06-Aug-91  06:17:39
Sb: #11630-Sterm1.5
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

This sounds like a baud rate mismatch. Sterm uses the baud rate set in the
descriptor (T2). Do you get any response from the modem after connecting? Do
you see the timeout message from CompuServe?

Try setting the baud rate in T2, like this:

 xmode /t2 baud=4

This will set the baud rate to 2400 baud. Also, its important _not_ to INIZ T2,
since that will lock in the initial baud rate. Also, do the xmode before
starting Sterm, as long as Sterm is running, and the path to T2 opened, xmode
will not have any effect.

Bill

#: 11641 S1/General Interest
    06-Aug-91  07:31:40
Sb: #11630-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Bill's offered my first choice in answers... baud rate mismatch. Give that a
try and see what gives.

What's happening with the modem lights? Is CD lit all the time? How about TR?
What happens to TX and RX (maybe called SD/RD) when you bang on the keyboard
while in sterm?

Steve

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#: 11646 S1/General Interest
    06-Aug-91  09:54:54
Sb: #11641-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Whelp, there was definitely a baud rate mismatch:  modem didn't throttle down
to 300 or 1200 from 2400 where it powers up (HS & MR are lit). As soon as sterm
boots, TR lights; SD & RD blink when keyboard is hit, but CD never lights.

So I tried booting sterm from xmode /t2 baud=4  with the same results.

Then I tried some null modem sterm xmodem transfers to a  floppy, then the same
file to a ramdisk.  The file was over 100kbytes. A stopwatch showed a savings
of 25% when using the ramdisk!  But I also notice how it is that all the time
computers save me, I spend learning more about computers! 

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#: 11656 S1/General Interest
    07-Aug-91  07:36:49
Sb: #11646-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Rechecked null-modem, xmodem transfers to a floppy & ramdisk;  original
findings stand for Sterm:  25+% savings to a ramdisk over
a floppy.  This seems to be unique to Sterm, and the transfer stats appear to
be in error for the floppy transfer.
Retried the same experiment using Uterm and the transfer times for both floppy
& ramdisk were comparible, only a few % faster for the ram save.

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#: 11660 S1/General Interest
    07-Aug-91  07:52:14
Sb: #11656-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul,

My CD laight is on when I use Sterm. Infact, the RS232 pak requires an active
DCD before it will talk back to you.

If your modem is Hayes compliant, an AT&C should fix you up. Otherwise a quick
jumper across pins 6-8-20 does the sameysame.

Steve

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#: 11671 S1/General Interest
    07-Aug-91  20:24:02
Sb: #11660-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

What is an AT&C?  I'd druther not mess with pin jumpering.  Tried to use YASMOD
this a.m.  Was able to get dial tone, and dial out to CIS but again, couldn't
receive data of any kind.

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#: 11679 S1/General Interest
    08-Aug-91  18:31:58
Sb: #11671-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul -

AT&C{1,0} I believe is used in the advanced modems to force a carrier detect
condition.

Pete

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#: 11682 S1/General Interest
    08-Aug-91  21:24:42
Sb: #11679-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

say what?     -ph-

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#: 11685 S1/General Interest
    09-Aug-91  00:09:10
Sb: #11682-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Sorry - I don't understand what 'say what' means in this context.. If you're
responding  to my last message, I'm on the road and traveling with a laptop,
and and popping from city to city.

Pete

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#: 11686 S1/General Interest
    09-Aug-91  00:19:18
Sb: #11685-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I meant repeat what you said more in layman's terms.    -ph-

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#: 11728 S1/General Interest
    12-Aug-91  06:48:50
Sb: #11686-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul -

I was referring to what 'AT&C1' tells the modem..... I believe it performs the
same function as some other modems' dip switches.. that is to force Carrier
Detect true.

Pete

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#: 11738 S1/General Interest
    12-Aug-91  20:29:37
Sb: #11728-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I tried AT&C and it worked fine;  AT&C1?  What's the dif?

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#: 11745 S1/General Interest
    12-Aug-91  22:19:48
Sb: #11738-Sterm1.5
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403

Per the Hayes 'AT' command set default grammar and syntax, an omission is the
same as a '0'. The supposed result is that you have effectively typed an
'AT&C0'.

Pete

#: 11703 S1/General Interest
    10-Aug-91  10:06:36
Sb: #11671-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

What Pete said!   :-)


Just kidding ...

With the non dip switched Hayes compatable modems that have been shipping for,
say, the last 5 years or so, the AT command set is how one programs the modem.

The &C parameter controls the condition of the DCD (or carrier detect) line. By
typing AT&C you're telling the modem to make that line high at all time. This
would be the same thing as we used to do by jumpering pins 6-8 and 20 together.

The ACIAPAK requires a high signal on DCD before it will respond to you.

Better?

Steve

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#: 11710 S1/General Interest
    10-Aug-91  15:50:55
Sb: #11703-#Sterm1.5
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Speaking of those extended commands...I always got a giggle when I noticed that
my modem had an AT&T command.

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#: 11711 S1/General Interest
    10-Aug-91  18:03:11
Sb: #11710-Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

So what did it do.... automaticall dial the central office?  :-)

#: 11746 S1/General Interest
    12-Aug-91  22:21:50
Sb: #11710-Sterm1.5
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: James Jones 76257,562

JJ -

Who ? (grin)

Pete (now working for GTE)

#: 11713 S1/General Interest
    10-Aug-91  19:29:45
Sb: #11703-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Ok, AT&C got the CD lamp lit.  I got on line and logged on ok.  When
downloading, what option does one choose from the CIS menu?  Is it
Ymodem,  send-ahead, B+, for the quickest, most efficient transfer?

Also, what option is used from Sterm menu? Only xmodem is given.  If you boot
with  sterm -f -l /t2   then you must  ESC-D  to /r0? 

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#: 11714 S1/General Interest
    11-Aug-91  09:03:35
Sb: #11713-#Sterm1.5
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul,

When using Sterm on CIS you're missing the boat if you're not using B protocol.
It's by far the most efficient protocol on this service.

It's built in to STERM ... no commands necessary. Enter the library of choice,
select a file to retrieve and type DOW. The two computers work out the details
by themselves asking you a couple of questions about protocol and transfer type
(ascii, binary, etc).

On the '-f' option you're correct. If you don't have a hard drive, you must be
transfering from a RAM disk.

Not to worry if you pick inadvertantly invoke the 'f' option. B proto is smart
enough to know when it's going up hill and drop down to Classic B when needed.

Steve

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#: 11717 S1/General Interest
    11-Aug-91  15:17:10
Sb: #11714-Sterm1.5
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to working on-line within MV's
windows.    -ph-

#: 11640 S1/General Interest
    06-Aug-91  07:24:20
Sb: #11629-Sterm1.5
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)

Paul,

'fraid I'm not up on LINPUT.AR . Perhaps another member will spot your
question.

Steve

#: 11642 S4/MIDI and Music
    06-Aug-91  08:15:46
Sb: #11600-UltiMuse3
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

Hi! They changed their minds (or lost them <g>) - we're getting HP 9000/700
workstations instead. All these things compile so much faster than my MVME147
running OSK that I won't notice too many differences except for not getting
coffee after I type "make"!
 Mark

#: 11643 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Aug-91  09:32:55
Sb: #11612-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

I checked it out and the LED's are active.  I also tried out xcom9 with the
help of the docs i found.  It won't work with /t2 either.  When on CIS, I lose
the first 4 characters of every displayed line.  I was hoping to use xcom9 to
just get another term program but I can't get it into command mode to start the
download.  At least CIS timed out in one minute rather than the usual five.

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#: 11657 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Aug-91  07:44:36
Sb: #11643-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,

With the LED active and you're actually getting online I'm begining to suspect
an interupt problem. Dropping characters sounds too much like the old IRQ
issue. Have you performed the IRQ hack? I perfer this method over that of the
diode hack approach. Haven't heard of one of those working correctly yet!

Steve

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#: 11689 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Aug-91  21:24:15
Sb: #11657-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

I am not familiar with any IRQ mods for the CoCo3.  Could you perhaps fill me
in on what is going on (if this is indeed the problem) and what I need to do to
fix it?

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#: 11706 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-91  10:17:34
Sb: #11689-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Stock OS9 software has problems with missed interupts. THe hardware solution is
the imfamous IRQHHAK as described by Pete in LIB 10's IRQHAK.TXT.

Others have suggested a diode approach. While it's theory is sound, I've not
seen it work here or elsewhere. Apparently the choice of diode is critical.

Another thought crossed my mind on your dropped chharacter problems. What type
of window are you trying to run sterm in? If it's a Graphic window, then that
may be contributing to your problems. Screen updates on a graphic type window
are too slow to keep up at 2400 baud.

Without the IRQ hack and perhaps on a graphic window, things would look like
heck!

Steve

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#: 11726 S7/Telecommunications
    11-Aug-91  22:58:39
Sb: #11706-sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255

It is a 80*24 text window that I've been having these problems in.  I finally
tried out sterm on a local board so I can download a 180K(!) GIF at 1200bps.
Same problems but better than I'd ever seen it.  They don't have CIS B protocol
so I tried esc-S to shell out to XYDOWN and get it by YMODEM.  They timed out
with 0 bytes transferred.  I immediately got a message that sterm was back
online as soon as the disk drive stopped.  No other indication of problems.

#: 11644 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Aug-91  09:35:52
Sb: #11613-#sterm w/o Modem Pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

I do complete the logon process.  As far as I know I am not going into command
mode since CIS still responds to OFF. But as soon as CIS is supposed to display
my custom logon menu, I just get a lot of garbage.  The right characters for
the most part get here but only a few show up on each line; ;and usually only
every other line has anything on it.  And the text scrolls by me very fast.

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#: 11658 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Aug-91  07:45:39
Sb: #11644-#sterm w/o Modem Pak
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

An easy way to confirm the IRQ issue would be to slow things down to 1200 or
300 baud. If you don't see any missing characters then we've found your
problem.

Steve

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#: 11690 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Aug-91  21:24:53
Sb: #11658-sterm w/o Modem Pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

I'll check that out.  Never did think of cutting the baud rate....

#: 11645 S1/General Interest
    06-Aug-91  09:39:13
Sb: #DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: SYSOP (X)

With the help of a OS9 RAMdisk, I have been able to download some programs here
with DECB Ulterm and use DOSOR9 to get them to OS-9.  But DOSOR9 seems to choke
if I have more than about 48K on a disk.  Since 2 things I want to download are
over 48K, would it be possible to un'ar them and e-mail each file to me?

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#: 11659 S1/General Interest
    07-Aug-91  07:47:41
Sb: #11645-#DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,

Given the trouble you're having, I wouldn't mind helping you out. But let's ot
give up on getting you set up properly.

What are the two file names and which library?

Steve

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#: 11691 S1/General Interest
    09-Aug-91  21:28:01
Sb: #11659-#DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

One is the famous DED.AR which I believe is in Lib 10.  The other is SWAVE.AR
which I believe is in Lib 6.  I may be getting the GCS File Transfer Utilities
as advertised in Rainbow.  They say that will handle both DECB and PC disks-a
plus for me.  So I could then GCS OS-9 files to OS-9 and properly de-Ar them. 
I wrote to them to ask for some more info about the program.

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#: 11705 S1/General Interest
    10-Aug-91  10:10:56
Sb: #11691-DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,

Be watching your mail box.

#: 11674 S1/General Interest
    07-Aug-91  21:19:46
Sb: #11645-#DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

 Erich-
 Just an idle question- if you have OS9, and want an OS9 file, why used DECB?
If using the 'banger' port,  I know there's drives for Lvl2 and I *think* even
a Lvl1 version,thou I might have seen that one elsewere. Couldn't help but
wonder, since DOSOR9 sounds like extra work anyway.
                                              -Rick

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#: 11692 S1/General Interest
    09-Aug-91  21:30:37
Sb: #11674-DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305 (X)

The Telecom section has a couple of threads I started where Steve Wegert and I
are trying to figure out why I am having so many difficulties with sterm and
xcom9.  The only way I can presently directly download to OS-9 is to use sterm
and the infamous modem pak.  OK for a small file here but no good on BBS'es or
for a big file.

#: 11678 S1/General Interest
    08-Aug-91  16:02:10
Sb: #11645-DOSOR9 on big files
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

I've been able to download large files directly with Deskmate-3's telecom but
also have used dosor9 upto nearly 100kb. 

In dosor9 try adding this line:
2326 IF NN>32767 THEN NN=NN-32768:GOTO 2326

I'm not sure if I RENUMmed any lines so the above should follow this:

2325 IF NUM>32767 THEN NN=NUM-32768

These lines are near the end of DOSOR9.    -ph- 

#: 11652 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Aug-91  22:52:21
Sb: #11623-@???
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

    Thanks alot Kevin. Just got a hard drive for my coco. Am kinda excited
about it. Have been setting up a lot of MS-DOS machines for friends and I still
find the coco under OS9 to be a lot more flexible.

                                Paul

#: 11654 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Aug-91  23:21:26
Sb: #11626-#flakey port
Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve, Thanks for the info.GShell is patched, so I'll try mouse position. Not
really to sure if I did the Diode hack right (RomPaks don't work,should they?)
But since I fried my multi-pak in an errant attemp at Robotics, using a
scratched to gether Y-cable with the $5.00 RS modem. Works OK for DeskMate3,
but the buss may be a little strained,since she's got some sparklies now. Guess
I should really clean up my act before plopping to much odeferosity on the
board. Thanks again for de help, off to get wmode!
                                           Best- Rick

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#: 11661 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Aug-91  07:56:10
Sb: #11654-#flakey port
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305 (X)

Rick,

Either IRQ hack should have no ill effect upon the proper operation of your
system ... rompaks included. Something's amiss.

Personally, I've not had much success (nor have I heard of others) with the
diode approach. Might want to look into the 'classic' solution. It isn't pretty
.... but it's working fine here!

Steve

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#: 11673 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Aug-91  21:04:20
Sb: #11661-#flakey port
Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 Steve, Where might one find the 'classic' solution? I assume this forces
interrupts past or to the GIME? SIince I7m using a Y-board,the IRQ's are
already tied together, so what's next?
                           At least she still runs,
                                                Rick

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#: 11704 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Aug-91  10:09:33
Sb: #11673-flakey port
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305

Pete's done a dandy write up that can be found in LIB 10. Look for IRQHAK.TXT.

Infact, if you'll type BRO IRQ*, two files should pop up. The first will be
Pete's, the second will be a file on hhow to 'pretty up' Pete's appoach.

Steve

#: 11663 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Aug-91  16:40:19
Sb: #11602-UMUSE3
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

Mike,

They played with the loaner and loved it! Do you think you can part with the
prototype MIDI board for about ten days? They would like to get a sneak preview
of the MIDI stuff for the upcoming MM/1 review.

If you want to know what they thought of the MM/1, call up Cray at rainbow.

Best,

Paul

IMS

#: 11664 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Aug-91  16:41:36
Sb: #11604-#UMUSE3
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

The thing I didn't like about the MT-32 was its graininess in some of its
sounds. I like the new Roland boards, though!

Best,

Paul IMS

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#: 11677 S4/MIDI and Music
    08-Aug-91  07:13:59
Sb: #11664-#UMUSE3
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

A guy I know at a local keyboard store is currently going on at great length
about how neat a Roland sound box called something like Sound Canvas is. (Alas,
they took the one they had to the other store, so I'd have to go there to see
it--which I may do, just on the basis of how much this guy liked it. More
likely I'll see whether it's at their booth at the State Fair's Varied
Industries building.)

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#: 11697 S4/MIDI and Music
    09-Aug-91  22:41:51
Sb: #11677-#UMUSE3
Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

James-
 Heard you mention a state fair. WHAT STATE? I'm hoping WI, since I watch their
fireworks every night.
                          -Rick

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#: 11702 S4/MIDI and Music
    10-Aug-91  07:21:03
Sb: #11697-UMUSE3
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305

The state?  Iowa.  Quite an event--come check it out if you have a chance.

#: 11666 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Aug-91  17:22:31
Sb: #11553-Sterm
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

I tried using ctrl-break with STerm to no avail....will wait for my TC70 and
then download Sterm, and then all should work fine.  (TC70 should be here
within about 2 weeks)

Thanks for the info!!

jim



#: 11667 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    07-Aug-91  17:42:01
Sb: #11607-PCoid keyboards & CTRL
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

Yes, it's time for everybody to subscribe to the OSKer - especially when the
next issue may be twice as big if I don't get out a real big hatchet.

And I would, of course, appreciate any articles you could send me.  We're never
going to be big enough to not need another quality article.  BTW, don't tell
anybody, but the deal where you get 6 months free of the magazine for having
your article printed is still on...

;->

StG

#: 11669 S6/Applications
    07-Aug-91  19:44:20
Sb: X10 (it lives!)
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To:  76703,4230 (X)

Pete,

Ever sine I told people on Delphi how I've been using your X10 software to run
my X10 computer interface (recently acquired), there has been a great response
and they're asking if you will allow me to post the software on Delphi.  So
what do you say? Can I do it?

-================================================================== Hugo Bueno 
| Delphi: MRGOOD      Compuserve: 71211,3662 Fanwood, NJ
|Internet:hugo%bluehaus@kc2wz.bubble.org CoCo 3 UUCP |   
UUCP:...!uunet!bluehaus!hugo
==================================================================

#: 11681 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Aug-91  20:33:05
Sb: #Where is OSK AR?
Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360
To: All

Could somebody please direct me to the 'AR' utility?  I was told it is in
library 12, but I'll be darned if I can find it.

Thanks,

  --Colin

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#: 11683 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Aug-91  21:40:28
Sb: #11681-#Where is OSK AR?
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X)

Just grabbed it myself a few days ago, Colin. Lib #9 AR68.bin.

JohnW

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#: 11684 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Aug-91  22:20:01
Sb: #11683-#Where is OSK AR?
Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John,

      Thank you!  I appreciate it more than you know.

BTW, kind of weird to be able to format a disk while online (with my MM1!)
Definately not used to it (but getting there quickly!)

  --Colin

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#: 11694 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Aug-91  21:39:18
Sb: #11684-#Where is OSK AR?
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X)

Yeah, "backup #500k" is kind of a time-saver too.  Couldn't figure out how to
do single-drive copies, but I did figure out how to make a huge ramdisk -
almost as good.  The machine wants a hard disk. (Oh, Paul ....)(GRIN).

JohnW

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#: 11696 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Aug-91  22:08:13
Sb: #11694-Where is OSK AR?
Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

Heh, yeah, I could use a hard drive too, but will have to settle for 2 3.5
floppies for now.  Could also use some more RAM!  So much to buy, so little
cash (so little credit left...)!

  --Colin

#: 11701 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Aug-91  07:02:36
Sb: #11694-#Where is OSK AR?
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John - I think for single-drive copying, just do "backup /d0".  Set your write
protect and give it a try.

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#: 11712 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Aug-91  18:39:52
Sb: #11701-Where is OSK AR?
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Single drive BACKUP is no problem, Kev, (Just like you said, but I give it all
the memory available).  What I couldn't find was a single drive option for the
copy command (for individual files).

JohnW

#: 11688 S15/Hot Topics
    09-Aug-91  04:53:04
Sb: #Help and the MM/1
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To: Paul 73477,2004 (X)

Paul: When will the next issue of the INSIDER be mail and

When are the I/O boards going to be shipped?

Are you going to update the XMODE command?

Keith

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#: 11743 S15/Hot Topics
    12-Aug-91  22:07:15
Sb: #11688-Help and the MM/1
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413

Next INSIDER is in production. I have sent down three pages of neat stuff.

I/O boards are shipping. Patience -- we're concentrating on the MM/1 Personal
systems, and we're catching up with I/O boards after that.

Why should we update XMODE? Are you thinking DMODE? Can you provide some
details?

Incidentally, thanks for your disk. Have you recieved it back yet?

Paul

IMS

#: 11693 S6/Applications
    09-Aug-91  21:34:07
Sb: B&B's R.S.B.
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

Is anyone out here using Burke & Burke's RSB?  What exactly does it do? Could I
use it to run DECB programs under a OS-9 window (after DOSOR9ing them)?  Just
how good a program is this anyway; I know *very* little about it but I may very
well find it useful.

#: 11695 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    09-Aug-91  21:58:41
Sb: #X10
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To:  76703,4230 (X)

Pete,

I'm sending you this message a second time, looks like you didn't get it the
first time (maybe I screwed up you ID).  Anyway...

Would it be OK for me to upload your X10 software package on Delphi?  People
are clamoring for it.

Hugo

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#: 11707 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    10-Aug-91  10:19:15
Sb: #11695-X10
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662

Pete got your first request. (You can tell by the (X) by his user id. He's
traveling so his replies have been a bit delayed.

Steve

#: 11727 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    12-Aug-91  06:46:45
Sb: #11695-X10
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662

Hugo...

As long as is distributed in BOTH of its original packages, then I guess
putting it on the 'other' place is alright. I know a number of their authors
have shared things over here.

Pete

#: 11698 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Aug-91  22:53:49
Sb: #large STERM downloads
Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
To: all

 Just another problem- When using STERM, I get exactly 484 blocks,and then the
errors start. ESC A no longer works, in fact nothing works except the power
switch and CLEAR key. I've got RAM and disk space, but after mucho downloado,
I'd like the rest of the file,also. I waited untill 32 errors before hanging up
last time,and tried every ESC sequence in the docs to no avail.Can SOMEBODY
help? (whimper)
                                   Rick

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#: 11700 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-91  03:06:22
Sb: #11698-large STERM downloads
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305

Rick,

What file izzit that you're trying to download?

Wayne

#: 11708 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-91  10:22:13
Sb: #11698-large STERM downloads
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305

Rick,

To what are you downloading? A ram disk, hard drive or floppy?

IF it's neither of the first two, don't use the '-f' option when calling sterm.
Steve

#: 11699 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-91  00:18:49
Sb: #sterm w/o Modem Pak
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Steve Wegert

I am now using sterm at 1200 baud.  It's working pretty much.  But I am still
getting some lost characters and garbage.  I wouldn't trust this program with a
download like this.  I'll try xcom9 next.  I suppose I could try out 300 baud
but if I am going to do that it would be easier to just use the modem pak.

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#: 11709 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-91  10:25:19
Sb: #11699-sterm w/o Modem Pak
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Ok ... this is good news!

With the dropped characters going away as you drop baud rate, it's pretty much
assured it's an IRQ problem.

First step is to immediately install the hack. It's simple, and reversible _if_
you're careful.

Steve

#: 11716 S3/Languages
    11-Aug-91  13:00:47
Sb: #C
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: ALL

Does anyone know how to generate a tab in C using the Microware 6809 compiler?
Also is there a statement that works like Basic09 inkey. getchar requires a CR!

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#: 11719 S3/Languages
    11-Aug-91  15:45:22
Sb: #11716-#C
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545 (X)

To output a tab: putchar('\t'); However, it will not display on a CoCo window
because code 9, normally used for tabs, is instead cursor up.  There is no
'tab' on CoCo windows.

To get a key, try the following routine:

inkey() {
  char c;

  read(0,&c,1);
  return(c); }

That reads one character from STDIN direct, places it in c, and returns tha
value to the caller.

StG

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#: 11720 S3/Languages
    11-Aug-91  15:54:10
Sb: #11719-C
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)

Thanks Scott -- I'll try that routine.

#: 11722 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Aug-91  18:50:41
Sb: #Cobbler for OSK
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To: All

Does someone have, or would like to write a file called COBBLER.C

I would like to use it on my MM/1 68K machine.

Also how can I send/receive CIS mail to/from the internet/uucp networks?

Is their a UUCP to Internet gateway here in the usa?

Keith

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#: 11747 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Aug-91  22:30:32
Sb: #11722-Cobbler for OSK
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413

Keith -

You can send mail to a CIS account from the Internet by mailing to:
USERID@compuserve.com, where USERID is the desired individual. In my case,
that'd be:

   76703.4230@compuserve.com

NOTE: use a PERIOD to separate the numbers... not a comma.

I believe to SEND to the Internet, you have to preface the address with
something like:

INTERNET>{address}

Try GO EASY, and then ask for HELP.

Pete

#: 11723 S3/Languages
    11-Aug-91  18:51:15
Sb: C function
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: Scott T. Griepentrog

Thanks Scott -- the inkey function does just what I need it to!

#: 11724 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Aug-91  19:23:40
Sb: #Atari ST Harddisk
Fm: Andreas Greulich 100014,1033
To: ALL

Hi all, I'm new in this forum, so I don't know if I got the right section
number... My problem is the following: I got an Atari-ST with Cumana OS-9 Level
II, Version 2.1 (I heard it's not the newest one, but I don't know what newer
releases offer). Until now I used a normal 20M SH205 harddisk with a 9M OS-9
partition. Now, since a week, I got an additional drive, actually a removable
cartridge with 44M disks and prepared a cartridge for OS-9. But, as it's a
second drive on the Atari DMA, I have to run it on host adapter address 1
instead of 0, which still is used by the SH205. I tried just to add h1 to
OS9Boot, but I was never able to access the second drive under OS-9. The only
thing I could do was to put the host adapter of the second drive to 0 and turn
off the SH205, this way I was able to install OS-9 and use it, but this way I
can't access my "old" OS-9 partition. But at least to transfer files from the
old partition to the new one, I'd be very happy to be able to access both
drives at the same time - does anybody know how to reach it, or where I can get
a driver that can manage to install a drive on another host adapter address
than 0? I know that this question probably sounds a bit stupid, but maybe
somebody has just an easy answer.... who knows ;) Thanks in advance, and sorry
for my bad English (actually I'm Swiss, that's why), greetings,
            Andy



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#: 11732 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Aug-91  12:03:43
Sb: #11724-Atari ST Harddisk
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Andreas Greulich 100014,1033 (X)

Greetings, Andy!

I suspect that you're the only Cumana port owner here, altho several people use
the US version on the ST.

In fact, there was a very recent question about using two SCSI devices on the
US version, and apparently it doesn't handle more than one, either.

I'll ask around elsewhere for you.  But until someone (I might try) works on a
HD driver which uses the SCSI ID byte, I think people are stuck with only one
device.

best - kevin

#: 11725 S7/Telecommunications
    11-Aug-91  21:43:50
Sb: #FTP
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: All

Does anyone know if INTERNET ftpmail is available via CIS mail? Or is the ascii
only restriction a deadlock?

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#: 11731 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Aug-91  10:35:15
Sb: #11725-#FTP
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob - my *guess* is that binary is a restriction to CIS mail, altho I think one
of us should test that.

If the internet ftpmail site can uuencode the data first tho, wouldn't that
work?  Assuming they will, of course.

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#: 11740 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Aug-91  21:43:24
Sb: #11731-FTP
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227

Don't know if the problem is the ascii restriction or not. I sent a 'help
request' to ftpmail@decwrl.com and instead of the help file I got the following
error message returned:

    -- Ftpmail Submission Transcript --
  <<< to: >INTERNET:ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
  >>> COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED, TRY 'help'.
  >>> `connect' COMMAND IS NONOPTIONAL, TRY `help'
  >>> checking security of host `'
  >>> HOST NAME MUST BE DOMAIN-QUALIFIED
    -- End Of Ftpmail Transcript -"help". Maybe this makes more sense to some of the net-gurus than to me--if so,
please explain...

#: 11734 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  18:31:07
Sb: #inkey
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: Scott t Griepentrog

Hi Scott--I started using the function inkey and it does the job buttttt. The
program will not execute the previous printf statement until the function
returns.
     printf("this will not print");
     ch=inkey();
     printf("next statement");

If I enter the letter 'x' then what I will get is: xthis will not print next
statement

It will sit and wait down in the inkey function and after an entry, it will
execute the previous printf and immediately the next printf ??????

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#: 11739 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  21:08:11
Sb: #11734-inkey
Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545

Phil,
     I think I can help you out here.  First, all FILE I/O is buffered. C
doesn't send anything to the screen until either a charage return is
encountered or until its buffer is full ( 256 characters by default). If you
want your first string to be sent to the screen before the inkey you either
have to put a /n at the end of it or fflush(stdout). Second, the program hangs
in inkey because it does its read system call without checking for data
available.  The os9 read call sits around waiting for a keypress if there is no
data in the device driver buffer to send.  You need to do something like:

 If(getstat(1,fileno(stdin))==0)
      read(fileno(stdin),&ch,1);

Hope this makes sense.  Buffering does make keyboard/screen I/O a bit clumsy at
times.

#: 11735 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  18:46:54
Sb: #11471-#C Compiler Problem
Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I'm just getting back to this C Compiler problem that I mentioned a couple of
weeks ago, I've been pretty busy lately.

Anyway, it appears that it is a compiler bug.  Great.  I've got this good sized
structure that I need to initialize and I REALLY don't want to retype several
hundred lines of initialization if I don't have to.  Is there anyway to get
around this problem?  Something that I could do with a global change in an
editor?  I'll mess around with this myself a bit but I B no C guru....

I suppose that there no chance of getting Tandy to fix this?

Grumble grumble...

-J

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#: 11744 S3/Languages
    12-Aug-91  22:15:52
Sb: #11735-C Compiler Problem
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565

I'd say there's minimal chance of getting Tandy to fix it.  About the best one
could do, at some expense in data space, is separately declare some pointers to
the strings you have in the structure initializers, and--no, that wouldn't do
it.  Unfortunately, there's not a good way to do it, and even the least bad way
would double the storage requirements for the strings.

#: 11737 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    12-Aug-91  19:13:42
Sb: Disto SCSI Interface
Fm: james pottage 71750,2012
To: All

Attion all Disto Super Controller Users. I have recently solved a rather
lengthy problem with my hard drive. Over the past year I have had 4 SCSI drives
crash on my machine. All of them were completely destroyed by my system. After
a great deal of trial and error I finally found that my 2 in 1 board was
defective and was blowing the drives. Three of the four drives were never even
formatted because they died on the initial format. I had the interface (2 in 1)
tested by CRC and after they destroyed one of their drives they confirmed that
the card was indeed the problem. Sunsequently I have had a report from Jim
Snider (who I believe is a technician for COCO Pro???) report that he has heard
of this also happening with a few four in one boards. I do not believe this is
a wide spread problem, but it is something to keep in mind if your hard drive
crashes. Moreover, CRC stated that they had never encountered this problem
before, so it will probably never affect most users. If you have had a similar
problem please leave a message on the board and check your controller. As well,
it may be of some interest that the drives that I blew were Seagate St125N's
and ST157N'S and the ones reported by Jime Snider were ST157N's.

                                               Jim Pottage

#: 11741 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    12-Aug-91  21:57:08
Sb: MV/GFX2/BASIC09
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: All

Some questions: 1. Under Multivue, certain applications allow you to size a
window by dragging the mouse from one point to another (CALC and CLOCK). Pg
2-17 of the Tandy MV Manual.

2. On pg 2-16 of the Manual it states that you can have two or more
applications running on the same screen at one time.

Can the first be done under BASIC09 and if so does anyone have some code to
share that shows how?

How do you open multiple windows on one screen under BASIC09. In my startup
file I do this with display codes, based on a script by Rick Adams that I got
on Delphi. (I hope I spelled his name correctly.)

Finally I use the patched versions of GSHELL. One thing I have wondered, is
there anyway to change the icons used for the disk drives? If I was to 
disasemble Gshell, using the Disasembler available on CIS, where would I be
looking for to find the "icons"? If I could do it, I would like to  then
develope a Hard Disk icons. If I can do it, I will be happy to upload the
patches?

I haven't been able to get as much programming work done as I would like to,
what with my obligations at the Monastery and outside work, but I hope to soon
have my dialog box maker ready to upload. I may just upload what I have at the
end of the month as a fixer-upper," if it is not completed.

With all best wishes,

Br. Jeremy, CSJW



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