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#: 5473 S6/Applications
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22-Jul-90 22:54:24
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Sb: #5454-#Question on PhantomGraph
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Fm: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack, Could you check that modpatch script again. When I used it the third
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line:
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c 02c3 0c 0d
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gave a "byte does not match" message.
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I tried to run phantomgraph anyway, but it locked up when I tried to print.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5491 S6/Applications
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23-Jul-90 21:25:20
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Sb: #5473-Question on PhantomGraph
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670
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As Mark mentions, I have a typo in my message. It should be $02ce. Sorry.
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Zack
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#: 5477 S6/Applications
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23-Jul-90 05:42:25
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Sb: #5454-Question on PhantomGraph
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack,
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That should be $02ce in the third line of your patch for DMPTANDY.DRV.
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Mark
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#: 5476 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 04:44:17
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Sb: GFX Speed Comparison
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: all
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Just for fun, I've run a speed comparison test... what I did was to GET an
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80x40 block of gfx, and then PUT it across the screen in a matrix (the actual
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count of PUTs is close to 1400). All programs were in Basic.
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The results were:
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15Mhz 68070 (MM/1) at 640x208x16-color - 6 seconds (prelim ver)
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2Mhz 6809 (Coco3) at 640x192x 4-color - 490 seconds (old grfdrv)
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2Mhz 6809 (Coco3) at 640x192x 4-color - 34 seconds (fast grfdrv)
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2Mhz 6809 (Coco3) at 640x192x 4-color - 55 seconds (RSDOS Basic)
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Previous tests drawing lines and circles had also shown the same ratio between
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the 68K and L-II fast grfdrv... about 5:1.
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Now note that the MM/1 was moving twice as much data, because it was in
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16-color mode vs 4-color on the CoCo. So I reran the fast grfdrv L-II test
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using 16-color mode (same number of PUTs) to be more fair...
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2Mhz 6809 (Coco3) at 320x192x16-color - 54 seconds (fast grfdrv)
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Now the 68070 shows up as almost 10 times as fast. Starting both tests at the
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same time really shows this speed diff up... the MM/1 goes splat! splat! splat!
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onto the screen and finishes, while the coco continues for what seems like an
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eternity. And I had been so proud of my fast grfdrv Puts <wry grin>.
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#: 5479 S9/Utilities
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23-Jul-90 08:41:56
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Sb: #5466-#Reading OS9 Directorys
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 (X)
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Right - the FD sector has all the info ABOUT the file (owner, size, dates,
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attributes).
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Best approach has been found to open two paths. One to the directory you're
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reading, and one to the whole RAW disk (i.e. /DD@). This way, when you read the
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LSN # from the directory, you can seek to the LSN * 256 on the RAW disk path
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and get right to the file's info. This is much faster than opening each file
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and doing an SS.FD getstat on it.
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Pete]
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#: 5483 S9/Utilities
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23-Jul-90 12:15:51
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Sb: #5479-Reading OS9 Directorys
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Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Oh I see..thanks for the help. I'll get right on it. Than I hope to make this
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program a good one.
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#: 5480 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 10:04:57
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Sb: CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 (X)
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Hi Mike!
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Read your comments on Basic on the MM/1. Did not seem to jive with my
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experiences so I duplicated your tests. My CoCo is model 3 with 512k memory -
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basically a 'vanilla' machine. For the 68k tests, I have a PT68 model K4 which
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uses a 68000 chip, has 4 megs of memory and runs at 16 MHz. OS is version 2.3,
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Basic is version 2.1.
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I also had the tests run two 'VME' machines. One machine was a 68010 running
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at 12 MHZ. The operating system for this machine is Version 2.2 and the
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version of basic is 1.2. No other tasks were running.
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The second machine was a 68030 running at 25 MHz. The operating system for
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this machine is Version 2.3 and the version of basic is 2.3. This machine has
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a math coprocessor and an indeterminate number of other tasks were active.
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These are the results (in seconds)
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(I included your results on the MM/1 for comparison purposes.)
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CoCo MM/1 PT68K4 68010 68030 Conditions
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4 3 1 3 1 As written (k=1000)
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40 12 26 8 k=10000
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78 59 23 52 14 k=20000
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10 13 8 8 2 k=1000 (Changed integers to real)
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Note that in all cases the PT68 was faster than the CoCo. Marginally when
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using real numbers and substantially when using integers.
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#: 5481 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 10:06:18
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Sb: #CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 (X)
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(continued from preceeding message)
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I have no explanation for the poor performance of the 68010 machine except that
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the version of basic09 was an old one. Have no idea as to its relative
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performace. But, it is interesting that it handled the case of real numbers as
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well as the PT68.
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The CoCo had no background tasks running. The PT68 had a 'cron-like' program
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running as a background task. I don't think this process influenced the tests
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significantly. And, I think the 1 MHz difference in clock speeds between the
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MM/1 and PT68 is insignificant when compared to the overall results.
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To be sure we're running the same tests, I used the basic09 'benchmark' program
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on page 196 of 'The Complete Rainbow Guide to OS-9'. On the 680x0 machines the
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line 'SHELL "date,t"' was changed to 'SHELL "date"'.
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It would be interesting to see a similar test run on Frank Hogg's machines;
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i.e., the 'tomcat', 'tc70', 'QT', etc.
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I curious as to the speed differences. I had 'heard' the 68070 is not as fast
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as the 68000 because of internal architectural differences. Do you know if this
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is true? Or, is the speed difference due to the version of OSK and Basic used?
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It might be interesting to continue this testing; i.e., running ML programs on
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the MM/1 and PT68K. If you'd like to devise some tests and send them to me,
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I'd be happy to run them. And, if you're nearby (I'm in Delaware) and would
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like to come by, I'd be happy to let you run any programs and tests you'd like
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(maybe bring your machine down and run side-by-side tests).
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#: 5485 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 15:42:45
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Sb: #5481-CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed The version of Basic that Mike is using is pretty old. Also the MM/1 will
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have the same speed as the TC70 in the MM/1 minimum configuration. The memory
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on the minimum MM/1 is shared with the video display and is much slower than if
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it were private. The memory is accesed every 533 ns instead of being accesed
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every 266 ns if there were no wait states. When the MM/1 is upgraded with the
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I/O board the speeds will improve significantly. I ran the drystone benchmark
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on my old PT68k and got around 950 drystones /second with a 12.5 MHz clock. The
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MM/1 with fast memory on the I/O board gets around 950 drystones -
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The MM/1 like make has will get around 600 drystones/second. The 68070
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processor is definitly slower then the 68000. A 68070 at 15 MHz is the same
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general speed as a 68000 at 12.5 MHz. The TC70 should show verry close to the
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same speed. although I don't know much about memory speed on that board.
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Kevin Pease
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#: 5488 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 19:41:30
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Sb: #5481-#CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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I added a test on a 3-meg MM/1 (2-megs fast RAM for program, 1-meg shared RAM
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for video) and got these times in seconds (slowest to fastest):
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1000 10000 20000 1000
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CPU ints ints ints real Computer Basic
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=========== ==== ==== ==== ==== =========== =====
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2Mhz 6809 - 4 40 78 10 CoCo
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15Mhz 68070 - 3 30 59 19 MM/1 (1meg) 2.1
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12Mhz 68010 - 3 26 52 8 VMEbus ? 1.2
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15Mhz 68070 - 2 20 39 13 MM/1 (3meg) 2.1
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16Mhz 68000 - 1 12 23 8 PT68K 2.1
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25Mhz 68030 - 1 8 14 2 VMEbus ? 2.3
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This shows the speed increase when not running out of video RAM on the MM/1.
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It also seems to show up an anomaly. Why did the 68010 do so well using REAL
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variables? Does the earlier Basic version use smaller data or is just a
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mistake in your chart? - kev
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#: 5503 S15/Hot Topics
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24-Jul-90 02:59:39
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Sb: #5488-#CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Hi Kevin!
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We don't know the reason for the 68010 being so slow. The tests were run
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several times and we got the same results each time. We *suspect* the problem
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has to do with the version of basic used. We intend to retry with a later
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version of basic.
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#: 5504 S15/Hot Topics
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24-Jul-90 03:25:28
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Sb: #5503-CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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Ed - it wasn't that it was slow.... it was that the 68010 was so FAST on the
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REALs test. That is, not in line with its other results.
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As to why it was slow overall otherwise, I'd suspect slow memory?
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#: 5482 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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23-Jul-90 10:14:40
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Sb: #5302-Serial Without Tears
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Fm: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Sir,
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It probably just seems to work. All hardware, like all software, has at
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least one bug. i.e. The first bugfree program has yet to be written.
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You've heard the old saw: Every program has at least one bug, and every
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program can be shortened by one line. Therefore by regression every program
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can be reduced to one line of code.....that doesn't work.
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23-Jul-90 15:41:57
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Sb: #5450-MM/1 Conference
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I plan on attending (but, that is past my bedtime - yawn)
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#: 5486 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 18:02:24
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Sb: #5450-MM/1 Conference
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Fm: Ron Lammardo 75706,336
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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Will Try to make it!!
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#: 5494 S15/Hot Topics
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23-Jul-90 23:07:58
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Sb: #5450-MM/1 Conference
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve;
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Count me in... at least for a while... Wed. is bowling league nite.
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..Jim O_o AACK!
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=( )=
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#: 5513 S15/Hot Topics
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24-Jul-90 14:40:10
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Sb: #5450-MM/1 Conference
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Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I will try to make it but i work nights so i may be unable to attend. i may be
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able to jump in later on but its likely not at all.. so please somebody capture
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it for me??? thanks
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#: 5515 S15/Hot Topics
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24-Jul-90 16:11:55
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Sb: #5450-MM/1 Conference
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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I'll be there.
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23-Jul-90 19:38:29
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Sb: #Speller
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Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Here's a comparison of your spell program and the User's Group Spell that I
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sent you:
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File Length Poel Spell User's Spell
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77 bytes 54 seconds 6 seconds
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675 57 18
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The User's Group program was faster for files with less then 12k bytes. Your
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program was faster with files larger than 12K.
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Wendell
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#: 5501 S6/Applications
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24-Jul-90 01:20:54
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Sb: #5487-Speller
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
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Wendell, thanks for the info. I've been doing some more playing with the spell
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program and have incorporated some of the features form the program you sent me
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into it. I've managed to double the speed on a 3K and 8K file. I'll post it
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later this week.
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#: 5489 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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23-Jul-90 20:53:01
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Sb: BBS
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Fm: judd terrell 72217,714
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To: 73617,3042
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Wayne, just an update on Thermal Fusion BBS... Now running On-Line Games...
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OS-9 and limited non-OS-9 support for CoCo 1/2/3... Look forward to new bbs
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list when available... Current number for Thermal Fusion, (803) 862-7544...
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Fountain Inn, SC.... Thanx... Judd...
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#: 5490 S3/Languages
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23-Jul-90 21:22:36
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Sb: CLIB Docs
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: 76070,41 (X)
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Mark,
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Was the popen() and pclose() functions intended to be included in your recent
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upload of the Krieder Lib docs? If so, then they are missing. Otherwise, NICE
|
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job!
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Zack
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#: 5492 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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23-Jul-90 21:29:09
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Sb: APBBS Editor question
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: 76576,2715
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Mike,
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I am taking a second look ar APBBS. Well, actually my first look, since when I
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first downloaded it a year ago, I never really looked at it. I have it about
|
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ready to come up, but am running into a minor glitch. You have some low level
|
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IO routines which you only include as a merged packed file. One of these
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routines, datin, I think, is used by the editor to input each line. Apparently,
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that routine don't like commas, cuz when I enter a message line which contains
|
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a comma (or commas), everything after the first comma is ignored. Is there a
|
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fix available for this?
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Zack
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#: 5493 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
|
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23-Jul-90 22:10:23
|
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Sb: Art BBS wanted
|
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Fm: Bob Gale 71211,2616
|
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To: All
|
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Does anyone know of any art oriented BBS? Any genre/media will do.
|
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|
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Doesn't have to be an OS-9 system. Please send me E-Mail.
|
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|
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Thanks in advance, ArtBase
|
||
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#: 5495 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
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23-Jul-90 23:08:05
|
||
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Sb: #5467-#erased file
|
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
|
||
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
|
||
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|
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Kev;
|
||
|
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|
||
|
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Many thanks. I was so close to the forest, the trees were blocking the view!
|
||
|
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:->
|
||
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|
||
|
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In my endeavors to fix up the file, I had completely overlooked the FD.SIZ
|
||
|
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bytes and was concentrating on the FD.SEG bytes.
|
||
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|
||
|
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One thing that I wouldn't have gotten tho, is the fact that I needed to copy
|
||
|
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the repaired file and re-delete the entry.
|
||
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|
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|
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If I get some time this week, I'll write up a procedure file for repairing
|
||
|
|
deleted files and upload it to you for proofreading (and corrections!). The
|
||
|
|
best way for me to learn anything is to try and explain it to someone else!
|
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|
||
|
|
Gracias!
|
||
|
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..Jim O_o AACK!
|
||
|
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=( )=
|
||
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U
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 5497 S10/Tandy CoCo
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24-Jul-90 00:15:09
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Sb: #5495-erased file
|
||
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
|
||
|
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
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Great! Someone has needed to do that for quite some time (file on undeleting
|
||
|
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files - grin). It's the same way with me: if I can get to the point that I can
|
||
|
|
explain something to someone, then I'll remember it better myself.
|
||
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||
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#: 5498 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
||
|
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24-Jul-90 00:15:45
|
||
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Sb: #5495-erased file
|
||
|
|
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
|
||
|
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
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PS: y'know, for small files you could almost write a program to automate a lot
|
||
|
|
of this. Care to try? ;-)
|
||
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|
||
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#: 5496 S15/Hot Topics
|
||
|
|
23-Jul-90 23:08:13
|
||
|
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Sb: #5470-#Keyboard/trackball
|
||
|
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
|
||
|
|
To: Jim Williams 72157,3524 (X)
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Jim;
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
re: $79 keyboard/trackball
|
||
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|
||
|
|
Forget it! It's chintzy... too light, didn't like the keyboard layout/feel,
|
||
|
|
and the trackball is too close to the keypad and edge of the board. No room
|
||
|
|
for ham-hands like mine.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I did play with one trackball for a while tho, and I really liked it. It was
|
||
|
|
a 3 button that had buttons #1 and #2 wrapping around the ball dlmost the full
|
||
|
|
length of the pad, and button #3, the drag-lock centered at the top.
|
||
|
|
Very easy to use and well designed ergonomically. Good control too, using
|
||
|
|
variable cpi. It looked as though the faster yousmoved the ball, the more cpi
|
||
|
|
that is fed to the driver - coarse control; and the slower you moved it, the
|
||
|
|
less cpi. If I remember, it was something like 50-360 cpi.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
..Jim O_o AACK!
|
||
|
|
=( )=0 U
|
||
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There is 1 Reply.
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||
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#: 5517 S15/Hot Topics
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 22:51:00
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5496-Keyboard/trackball
|
||
|
|
Fm: Jim Williams 72157,3524
|
||
|
|
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
Thanks for the info, I'll consider alternatives to that keyboard, then <grin>.
|
||
|
|
--Eet--
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
|
Director of Mayhem
|
||
|
|
Extra Terrestrial Imports, Ltd.
|
||
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||
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|
||
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|
||
|
|
#: 5499 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 00:28:40
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5439-Reading OS9 directorys
|
||
|
|
Fm: Don Kircher 76346,3475
|
||
|
|
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Thanks for the reply Kevin, I'll give it a whirl and see how she flys
|
||
|
|
dlk
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5500 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 01:18:04
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5464-words
|
||
|
|
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
|
||
|
|
To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Phil, I just had a look at the source for "words" and it looked fine. So I
|
||
|
|
tried the program, and I too got a 216. What happened is that the compiled
|
||
|
|
program in the archive (as well as the one on my hard drive) is an earlier
|
||
|
|
version of words. All you need to do is either recompile the program, or use
|
||
|
|
the version you have but do a "chd /dd/sys/spell" first. The version you have
|
||
|
|
is looking for the file "dictionary", not "/dd/sys/spell/dictionary".
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
BTW, I will be uploading a new version of "spell" later this week (as soon as
|
||
|
|
my 2400 baud modem arrives). It is twice as fast again as the one you now have.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5502 S3/Languages
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 01:21:14
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5347-Clib docs
|
||
|
|
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
|
||
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Mark, There really are some too-long lines in the docs. I'm using an 80 column
|
||
|
|
printer in pica. If you are too then something is really strange.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Regarding the numbers at the top of the pages, I should have figured out the
|
||
|
|
Unix connection myself. After all (I'm learning bit by bit) if there is
|
||
|
|
something cryptic relating to OS9 then is usually a Unix influence. Just what
|
||
|
|
was the mother-tongue of the folks who created Unix anyway??? <grin>
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Oh, and thanks for the reminder about the index--I guess I can just print out
|
||
|
|
the man.hlp file and stick it in the back of my new manual. Should work fine.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I'll leave defdrive() for now--I'm not sure why anyone would ever use that
|
||
|
|
command anyway? Guess it is a hold-over from before /dd conventions?
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Oh, I just noticed that the description for RAND() is still wrong. Unless I am
|
||
|
|
missing something in the way the function works it does not use a scale factor.
|
||
|
|
It would be nice if it did! Could this be a difference between clib.l and
|
||
|
|
clibt.l?
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
#: 5505 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 11:37:19
|
||
|
|
Sb: #readmac.pak
|
||
|
|
Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
|
||
|
|
To: sysop (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Sorry, it happened again. I uploaded readmac.pak into lib 10 and forgot to say
|
||
|
|
that it requires KD's enhanced GFX2. Could you *Please?* include it in my
|
||
|
|
description? Thank you very much . . .
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
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|
||
|
|
#: 5506 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 12:28:57
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5505-readmac.pak
|
||
|
|
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
|
||
|
|
To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
Yep.. we'll take care of it, Joseph.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Wayne
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5507 S9/Utilities
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 12:32:01
|
||
|
|
Sb: #Reading Directorys
|
||
|
|
Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
|
||
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I've been working on my utility and got it to read the directory and print the
|
||
|
|
filenames and the LSN numbers. I set it up to read the directory using TYPE.
|
||
|
|
Here is how I did it. 'TYPE direntry=name:STRING[29]; lsn0,lsn1,lsn2:BYTE' When
|
||
|
|
I tell it to print each filename, after resetting the last character of the
|
||
|
|
filename, and print the LSN's 0-2, this is what it looks like. e.g. FILENAME
|
||
|
|
LSN0=0 LSN1=119 LSN2=203 Which one of those do I use to 'SEEK' to the filenames
|
||
|
|
FD sector and get my info? Do I have to multiply the lsn's together to get that
|
||
|
|
sector number? And if so, what's the formula? (I'm getting closer! This is
|
||
|
|
fun!) OS9 has opened all new doors to me...amazing stuff!
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5508 S9/Utilities
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 13:58:47
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5507-Reading Directorys
|
||
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
||
|
|
To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
George -
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Yep - you're on the trail.... here's the scoop:
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
The LSN is a 3 byte number. Basically, the breakdown is -
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
MSB * 256 * 256
|
||
|
|
+ NSB * 256
|
||
|
|
+ LSB
|
||
|
|
========================
|
||
|
|
LSN #
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
In C, there are functions for taking these three bytes and making a LONG
|
||
|
|
INTEGER out of them (and back). Under B09, you may have to use a type REAL,
|
||
|
|
since the result is greater than +/- 32767.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Pete
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5509 S15/Hot Topics
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 14:30:53
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5402-Is Basic out of date?
|
||
|
|
Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
|
||
|
|
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
~ Well my BBS in Basic09 does need a PEEK for carrier since ACIAPAK has no way
|
||
|
|
to tell it for me. but its not hard-coded so the user may use a pak thats
|
||
|
|
addressed differently then the standard pak. Even though this isn't "clean"
|
||
|
|
code I never have a problem multi-tasking or anything like that. The modem kill
|
||
|
|
switch (type=20) is ucreliable and is a shock to the system. so i let my BBS
|
||
|
|
handle it.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Mike
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
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|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5510 S15/Hot Topics
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 14:31:08
|
||
|
|
Sb: #5409-Is Basic out of date?
|
||
|
|
Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715
|
||
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
~ Well I too take the stand against "bad programs" and my BBS is clean as it
|
||
|
|
can get with the exception of peeking for carrier.. thats all! I allow users to
|
||
|
|
imbed the base address in a file so he may use other paks and other ports but I
|
||
|
|
had no choice but to do it that way. sure if I toyed with it i could do other
|
||
|
|
features but ii would be nothing less then dirty. Alot of Alpha's BBS owners
|
||
|
|
complained about it... sure he has some slick features I don't have but the
|
||
|
|
cost is system ram, crashes, and other erratic operations... which would you
|
||
|
|
rather have???
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
Mike
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
#: 5514 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
||
|
|
24-Jul-90 15:51:39
|
||
|
|
Sb: Sound.Master Problems
|
||
|
|
Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
|
||
|
|
To: 76370,1366
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
I will need more information to be certain as to the problem you are
|
||
|
|
experiencing. Here are some things to check:
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
- SSC and SSCART should be placed on your boot disk (with Config, Ezgen, etc.)
|
||
|
|
To determine if they are working try this:
|
||
|
|
iniz ssc
|
||
|
|
echo hi >/ssc
|
||
|
|
If you get an error these files are not working properly.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
- Be sure RunB and GFX2 are in memory. Preferably merged together.
|
||
|
|
merge RunB Gfx2 >RunbX
|
||
|
|
attr Runbx e pe
|
||
|
|
load Runbx
|
||
|
|
You can even Runb GFX2 and Sound.Master together..
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
- Be sure to load Sound.Master into memory. It won't always run correctly
|
||
|
|
by just typing in its name.
|
||
|
|
load Sound.Master
|
||
|
|
sound
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
- Be sure XMODE is in memory, although this shouldn't give an error 43 if
|
||
|
|
missing.
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
From your description it sounds like something is missing in memory that needs
|
||
|
|
to be there so check that first. The program should draw more than just three
|
||
|
|
small screens. It begins with 3 in the upper left corner one in the upper right
|
||
|
|
corner one in the lower left and lower right corner and one in the middle. If
|
||
|
|
it fails before completing this then perhaps one of the draw files are missing.
|
||
|
|
Here is a list of the files included in sound.master:
|
||
|
|
|
||
|
|
128 $22 $AEE898 sound
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $7E9959 cursor
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $D6120E menu
|
||
|
|
133 $22 $18D62D filemenu
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $6C0FF1 process
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $C4A015 switch
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $2E6AF4 putregs
|
||
|
|
52 $22 $1E94CB getname
|
||
|
|
53 $22 $09D119 getfile
|
||
|
|
35 $22 $14B9CE tone
|
||
|
|
29 $22 $F7D2B4 slider
|
||
|
|
35 $22 $577141 connect
|
||
|
|
35 $22 $94594E envelope
|
||
|
|
132 $22 $7980D7 env1
|
||
|
|
35 $22 $6FF97D noise
|
||
|
|
129 $22 $469828 ltrbox
|
||
|
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132 $22 $623956 spkr
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35 $22 $729CE6 menubox
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53 $22 $99B7CD pointer
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53 $22 $49E1DC pal
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14 $22 $2E555B alpha
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53 $22 $9EA968 tables
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19 $22 $E8C3A5 registers
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Do an IDENT sound.master -sv to double check this.
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Its a long reply but I hope it helps. Please let me know if you still have any
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problems. If you do put together a file with an MDIR and MFREE and IDENTS for
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sound progs then mail them to me. This with a detailed description will make
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it easier to pinpoint the A(X.
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#: 5518 S4/MIDI and Music
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24-Jul-90 23:01:29
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Sb: #5238-midi help
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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The fact that all the software is included is really amazing. Makes me wonder
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if it is because Microware said "here it is--do what you can with it". Sounds
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like a wonder machine!
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#: 5519 S4/MIDI and Music
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24-Jul-90 23:05:15
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Sb: #5399-midi help
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Tsk, tsk, Mike! Yeah, my dogs are well fed. Incidentally, the dogs are also
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doing a much better job of making my time worth while! Perhaps not as elegant
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as the MM/1 but my AT is supported by a wealth of software. And yes, PC-Lyra
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has been out for almost 8 months now. Hope to get some advertising going soon.
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How come I don't see anything in the latest Rainbow for Second City Software? A
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friend of mine even said that he tried calling them and got a message saying
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that the number was disconnected!
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Are you going full steam on the MM/1? Sounds like a dream machine. I just wish
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that it had been released 5 years ago. Life might be very different now.
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Lester.
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#: 5520 S4/MIDI and Music
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24-Jul-90 23:08:51
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Sb: #5398-midi help
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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No, Mike. The friends who can tell the difference between 96 and 192 ticks per
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beat were doing it with stock synths. But I heartily agree with you, that some
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synths are very sloppy when it comes to responding quickly to MIDI input.
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Press <CR> !>
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