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The Lawles Society
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Issue #11
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12/1/92
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The Fallout of #10
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As expected, I caught hell for TLS10.TXT . Yes, even I must admit,
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the ansi header was quiet nasty, so back to the original. Anyway, I caught
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hell from the people I expected, but I also caught it from those I didn't
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expect it from. This will be an ANSWER to the questions that have popped
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up. Some to show the rest of society things that should have been said,
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things that shouldn't have, and things that should have been said
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differently. It is also to express my SOLE feelings on the matters that
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have transpired in the day since its release. Maybe the rest of society
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will change their opinions after this. Am I the fool that has crushed the
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innocent people? Maybe....You decide.
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To start off, I would like to apologize to the aforementioned
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sysop of TextLand. He took some minor offense to some of the things
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mentioned, we discussed them, and I hope we cleared alot of things up. I
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should have made it more clear that TextLand and its files are to no way
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be considered equal to the actions or considered involved with the term I
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loosley used - DERF FILE. TextLand has much more to offer, and in
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actuality DERF is of the smallest involvement in TextLand. I think I said
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something like "One of the activities of TextLand is the DERF FILE". I
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should have made it more clear how small of a part that DERF actually is
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to TextLand. I am also friends with this person, and in all honesty, I
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should have expressed my thought on it in person long ago (as should the
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rest of this group-every single one of us) but didn't. I do not know what
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stopped me, or the rest of us, from doing so. The sysop of TextLand really
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has NO INVOLVEMENT with other peoples activities, and I think I was trying
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to keep him uninvolved in it (although to make people understand why I did
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this,it was needed to tell some sort of history). I have been told, and
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agree I went about it wrong in his case. I am sorry.
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To "Veg"- In all honesty, I do not understand why you are angry
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with me. EVERYTHING I said, has been said publically by many others, on a
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lot of occaisions, to which you did nothing but laugh it off. Why you
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chose this file to single out, I don't know. You and 12 O'Clock think of
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me as a hypocrit. Why I do not know. Yes, I stated in the 10 that I agree
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with SELECTIVE AUTHORS JUDGEMENT. That in no way means total censorship.
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You think me as a Hypocrit for releasing an un-associated file called the
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Zac Chat. I do not understand why you think me hypocratic, because you are
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the one who pestered me until I released it. The Zac chat involved
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embarrasing things people did not mean to become public, so I did censor
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some parts I felt appropriate. This is different. This is something that
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has bothered many people for a long time. No one did a thing about it
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until the day that I and Subroc stated our feelings on the abuse issue.
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After I did, I was given the attitude that I am silly, too hard on them,
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too serious, and I was even whispered "You must be Sexually frustrated."
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So, in the abuse case, all knew my stance on it, and no one chose to
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listen. I am not going to sit by, and watch a friend of mine's great system
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be wasted, or ruined. You were to be no way associated with the Sheep, but
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you have exploded several times on ChatLand. Even a friend of yours said
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"[Veg] should be monitored, to make sure he doesn't blow up again!" or
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something not in those exact words. I accept what you do perfectly well
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until it starts hurting me or my friends. You forced me to release the Zac
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Chat, and now you say what I said is inappropriate? Who's the hypocrit? I
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am not sure you are pissed at that, I must assume though since you refuse
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to talk to me about it.
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To "12 O'Clock" - You said this night sarchasticly (sp) that You
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were the sheep herder. I did not intend it to be taken that way. I meant
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it to be taken as the following.....A smart, nice person, who helps people
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learn things they desire and that I think you don't realize what these
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people are making you look like and how much damage they are doing to
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ChatLand. You also stated you thought I was a hypocrit. As I said, your
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beliefs are fine. I accept them perfectly well. As for you reading things
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into the file that were not intended, that was not my intention and
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whatever you think becsue of things not expressed, is not my fault. I
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meant to actually compliment you, but obviously it has been taken
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differently. I apologize.
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Thats the end of the apologies people. Now, for the good stuff.
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I have noticed that since the release of this file dozens of
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people no longer backing me. Essentially, they felt the pressure, and
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backed out, and jumped on the "Bash Powerslave" bandwagon. Even 2 VERY
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CLOSE FRIENDS. Yes, I was the sole writer of TLS10, but it has been
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discussed for many months with other people. Many other people. The
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information in it is not heresay, or half-truths.....it is 100% true. Keep
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in mind, some of the judgement things are my opinions only. I refuse to
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speak for others, but there were at least 30 people on ChatLand
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encouraging me to write this, and expressing their anger to it. Now, I can
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only find 1. To those people (You ALL know who you are) you will not have
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my trust again. Fuck me once, Shame on you. Fuck me twice, Shame on me.
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You people are cowards, and have no backbone whatsoever. To my 2 close
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friends that abandoned me, I will act like nothing happened until you come
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to me. One I know will not. I know them to well, one will and I am
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waiting. Some have told me that it was the way I wrote it. Maybe it is.
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Let the rest be the judge of that. But the content could not be more
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accurate.
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I had a discussion with the one I callsigned "Roach". At first he
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denied everything that was mentioned. When I made it clear I have proof,
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and witnesses, he admitted to a few of them. To this day he refuses to
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admit everything, and every sentence says something like "So now everyone
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hates me. Whoa...big deal. I dont care. You believe what you want to
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believe.". As I told this person, I do not hate him. I think he has a lot
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to learn before he can criticize (sp) anyone. He kept saying that what I
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mentioned was all in the past. As I said in the file, he has been good
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recently (The last few weeks), and he even tried to be helpful to a bad
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situation.......ONCE. To him-I apologize for HOW I said things, not WHAT I
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said. Basically to all 3 of the sheep mentioned. There are at least 2 more
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that I did not mention. DO not believe this is the only 3. There are 3
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more on the border of sheepdom also. Unfortunately, the bash powerslave
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movement might have quickened their pace to become sheep. Hopefully not.
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If they do, the file backfired.
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I have not talked to Einstein or Caidoz yet. I can assume what
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they will do. I will not say anything until they actually talk to me, but
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for Roach and the other 2- You continually deny being abusive to others.
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There is no doubt in mine or anyone elses mind that you are. At least fess
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up to that. I agree, the personal attacks should have been left out, but
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everyone wanted them left in. As many abovely mentioned - I did as the
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people wanted.
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To Einstein specifically - I GREATLY apologize for the FLAG FILE
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comment. That was an opinion, and not all agree. In fact, many people liked
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it. What you do is good (when it comes to writing things like that) and I
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am afraid I took yours and the rest of the sheeps other actions in mind
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when I wrote it. I am sorry for a very bad example of a personal attack.
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Keep writing. Now think how the new users felt when they were verbally
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assaulted for asking questions you guys dubbed as moronic. Don't you guys
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remember being new? You must, it was only months ago. You guys are barely
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out of your modem diapers yet. I shall think how others will feel (before
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I say or write something like this again) if you guys agree to.
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It has proven to me that you people will not let me be like you.
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You people find what I did atrocious. You made fun of people that you
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didn't like, or people you claimed as "Morons". All I did was do the same
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things to people who hurt others, and degrated many. Who is calling the
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kettle black?
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I hope the people reading this think on what I said for awile, and
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not do what they did with TLS10; Bash Powerslave to make us feel better.
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That is the truth, because what I said was honesty, and all mentioned know
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it. I am sorry this cannot be handled more maturely. Granted, I did not
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help much by writing it the WAY I did, but all you did is make it worse.
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You people seem to forget I tried to get you to understand the affects of
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your actions, but you refused, and thought me as stupid. You can think
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what you like. I know better and so do the people. Even the ones who
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changed their minds about the whole thing because they feared what "Other
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people would think". They know the truth, and they will have the sleepness
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nights....not me.
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To Sysop of TextLand, 12 O'Clock, and Veg - I hope you accept my
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apology, and understand where I was and am coming from. If not, I hope you
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simply accept it as my opinion, and not as a personal attack.
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To people who have NO IDEA what this is about-
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I am sorry this is another locally based TLS file. Hopefully
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there will be no more of these, but I had to reach these people somehow.
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What I post or say in public is never heard. The only way to get to them
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is through TextFiles (and boy did it). Lesson to be learned-always think
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about what you say. Honesty can come back and haunt you no matter how
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honest you are. Never take people for granted. Never trust acquaintences
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to back you up when the shit hits the fan, cause they will be gone. Say
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what the public wants, and not what you feel. This may be my last TLS
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Textfile. We will see how things progress in the next few weeks. If it
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is.....I can't say it's been a blast, but at least its been something.
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Even someone doing this for close to 11 years can learn. Unfortunately the
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hard way.
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Bah Hindu, LlamaToes and all the rest!
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The Lawless Society
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-Powerslave
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