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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 47 22 Nov 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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When Practice becomes Policy ............................. 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
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Region 13 Election Schedule .............................. 2
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Quite the Election - Darrell Salter ...................... 3
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 5
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Ol'WDB: Engineering and Humor ............................ 5
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 6
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10
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Ice Cream for the Soul ................................... 10
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Politically Astute ....................................... 10
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 12
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Echcowmail - Fido's Backbone ............................. 12
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6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13
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Masthead ................................................. 13
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EDITORIAL
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When Practice becomes Policy
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Doug Myers
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Elections are in the news this week. News on the Region 12 Election
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winds down with a poignant wish by Darrell Salter, the newly elected
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Regional Coordinator there. The election in Region 13 kicks off
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with the posting of an election schedule by David Califranceso, the
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newly elected Election Coordinator there. The R13 election was
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actually scheduled earlier this year, and nominations made, but the
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region decided to defer the election until after the Z1C election
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since David Moufarrege was a prime candidate in both elections.
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In the Region 13 Sysop echo, there's an interesting thread between
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Carol Shenkenberger (Acting RC13) and Bob Morasvik (noted Fidonet
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"Bad Boy"). Carol refers to the Region 13 Election Guidelines as a
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regional policy, and Bob takes exception to the term "policy" in
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this context. Bob maintains that a policy, such as Fidonet Policy
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4.07, is something enforceable; something which the sysops cannot
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simply ignore. He further maintains that no RC election policy is
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possible under P 4.07 because the position of RC is specifically
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spelled out as an appointment by the Zone Coordinator. Under P
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4.97, the Zone Coordinator could simply ignore the vote within a
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region and appoint whomever he pleases.
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Carol points out that Bob's criteria of unenforceability is unlikely
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to have practical impact because David Moufarrege is a known
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proponent of elections in Fidonet, and is unlikely to reject an
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elected candidate. It doesn't matter, argues Bob. The fact that
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the "local" policy cannot bind the ZC invalidates it as a policy.
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Elections throughout Fidonet are little more than straw polls, and
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the "policies" defining them are little more than wish lists.
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As a tribute to his debating skills, Bob has a point. But I wonder
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if, in making it he hasn't sealed the fate of all policy. Could the
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ZC refuse an elected candidate from a region where elections have
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become a tradition? Certainly printed policy says he can do this,
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but could he actually do this in practice? Would the reaction of
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the sysops in Fidonet be sufficiently strong to enforce the
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application of tradition? Could a ZC effectively withstand such a
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reaction? If not, then the written policy becomes unenforceable, and
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by Bob's definition, P 4.07 ceases to exist as policy. It may be
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that we're already at this point since David actively supports
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elections and will not (in my opinion) reject the outcome of an
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election.
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At what point does practice become policy? At what point does
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written policy become invalid, and cease to exist as policy?
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FIDONEWS 16-47 Page 2 22 Nov 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Region 13 Election Schedule
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David Calafrancesco
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R13 Election Coordinator
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1:2624/306, dave@drakkar.org
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* Forwarded (from: R13SYSOP) by David Calafrancesco
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* Originally from David Calafrancesco (1:2624/306) to all.
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* Original dated: Nov 17 '99, 00:00
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As per the current R13 election guidelines (or as close as we will
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be able to achieve in the spirit of the document given some
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technical problems like different echo names and missed dates etc),
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I would like to announce the start of our selection process to
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determine the next Regional Coordinator for Region 13.
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The schedule below has been modified from the absolute dates listed
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in the original document.
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1. Announcement of the election: -- November 18th through
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November 28th
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2. Declarations of Candidacy: November 29th through December
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12th
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b. Two weeks are allowed for such declarations
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3. Questions to the Candidates: December 13th through January
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9th
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d. Three weeks are allowed for questions and answers
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4. Vote: January 10th through January 19th
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One week is allowed for all members of the region to vote
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The beginning dates are not absolute, however the ending dates are
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firm unless we have some catastrophic network failure (like a two
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week ice storm or something). This means that if someone wishes to
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jump the gun on a nomination it will be OK. Same for questions to
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the candidates or votes. Candidates may decline to respond to
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questions until the question phase starts but are free to respond
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early if they desire.
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I have extended dates around the holidays to accomodate people's
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travel plans etc. There was no way to have the election end before
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the holidays so I set the dates to have things end well after New
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Years. We certainly don't need to have major chaos in the nodelist
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during the Y2K transition so having the election ending mid January
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is preferred. I also expect a one or two week transition period
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after the final results are posted. Note that the ending date for
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this term for the RC should stay on the October schedule (October
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2001).
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FIDONEWS 16-47 Page 3 22 Nov 1999
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For the duration of this election, the valid echos for
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announcements, nominations, questions etc... will be R13SYSOP and
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R13_ELECTION. Announcements will be made in both, discussion can
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take place in either. Candidates are instructed to monitor both
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echos equally and to cross post any platforms or other mass
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announcements into R13SYSOP.
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Votes will be accepted by almost any method that will get them to
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me. I plan to use a vote counting robot that will have a flexible
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format for sending in the votes. Netmail (routed or otherwise) or
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internet email will both have the same result as they end up in the
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exact same *.msg netmail folder. Votes will be the usual format,
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identify yourself (name and nodenumber), who you are voting for, and
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a keyword. The results will be tallied and reported by use of the
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keyword so choose something that will likely be unique. The
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relationship between you and your keyword is as private as you wish
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to make it. A list of nodes that have voted will also be published
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allowing people to track who is or is not voting.
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The robot will hopefully be instructed to post nightly lists of the
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nodes that have voted so everyone can check to ensure that their
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vote has been counted.
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The robot also has an interesting feature in that it allows a voter
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to change their mind. Only the last vote received for any node is
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accepted. It also has the ability to deal with slight mispellings of
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a candidates name.
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Should anyone have any questions, I can be reached at any of the
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following methods:
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1:2624/306 (preferred) or any of my other AKAs including the 1:13/2
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that should be in the nodelist next week. All correspondance can
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also be sent via email to r13electmod@drakkar.org
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Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2, Region 13 Election
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coordinator/moderator. dave@drakkar.org
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Quite the Election
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Darrell Salter, R12C
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1:12/0
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Nice 'snooze'.
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Yeah, it was quite the election, and one that I thought would never
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end. Anyone that has followed Region 12 elections in the past
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usually finds them quite entertaining, but this one was really
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different. For me, this was the second time I had thrown my hat in
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the ring, while I believe it was Steve's first. Steve and I ran
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good, clean campaigns. No backbiting, slander, namecalling, and no
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real campaigning. It seems we were both content to just let the
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chips fall where they may. Steve would have made a fine R12C, and I
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hope he'll be around for the next one. My "win" was dubious at best,
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and Steve suffered being screwed over twice actually, once by Shawn,
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and finally by Mike. Immediately following Mike's declaration of me
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a the new R12C, I asked the Region if they wanted to do it again to
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get it right, but the general concensus was, nah, let it be, carry
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on. Even Steve didn't want to contest it, although he certainly had
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every right to. He was a class-act all the way, and my hat goes off
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to him.
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So here I sit, learning a new job, and hoping things get back to
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normal (whatever that is). :-)
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Regards,
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Darrell
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COLUMNS
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Engineering and Humor
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by Ol'WDB
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Creative engineers are using an old tool in a new way to reengineer
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the organizational functions and father development of old Entities.
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I think Fidonet falls into that category as technology is fast
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eliminating the need for it, and the usefulness of Fido to the
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masses is declining.
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Development and implementation of a new framework is necessary for
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Fido to survive in the next millennium. So let us look at the new
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innovative possibilities to resurrect and reconstruct a great hobby
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that served a great public need the past decade or so.
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My limited engineering knowledge was in the Video and Sound fields,
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a very narrow area in the total engineering spectrum. All
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engineering fields are built upon a frame work of knowledge about
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the behavior of materials of every known medium and application.
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Organizations large and small depend on team work to accomplish the
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development of the product, the marketing and sales of their
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efforts.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Fidonet is no different then Mother Bell or
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her big sister AT&T. In fact, all three have a lot in common,
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(chuckle) and there in lies the basic frame work needed for a happy
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successful use of a hobby to enhance our enjoyment of life and help
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the whole world.
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One of the many tools used in engineering is the languages of the
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entire world to one degree or another as applicable to the location
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and project. Language in the form of text is the primary tool of
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Fidonet. It can be used in many ways and is quite flexible in most
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general applications. It conveys powerful images, sounds and
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feelings. Those who are real engineers in the use of it are
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Journalists by degree, and those of us that try to utilize it are
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not always successful.
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Now to the question: Why, as it relates to Fidonet's troubles?
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To find the answer to that question, a team of engineers would be
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assigned specific fields according to talent and degree, to
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assimilate every word, dotting all "i's" and crossing all "t's" in
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both cases, applying all known rules of the languages that make up
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the network of Fido.
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Then they would run the result through their individual programs and
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post their findings on the units "scratch board" for final
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collective analyses. Then all of the individual papers would be
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developed and the resulting algorithm <+AP4-h+SS-T/pB2 > was
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compiled , the answer was determined in these words in succession of
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degree:
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FIDONEWS 16-47 Page 6 22 Nov 1999
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+Antiquated P4, -humorB2, +Sh*t stirrers, -Truth, / Procrastination
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is the answer.
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To effect an increase in teamwork, empower each sysop/node with a
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positive sense of humor, a warm body vote in all elections,
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dramatically increasing their creative abilities to recruit others;
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and by the disposition of the negative procrastination propensities.
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In a friendlier Fido, all fights would be avoided voluntarily,
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leaders would be anxious to extend a helping hand to beginners again
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without making the puppies feel like ignorant idiots. That was the
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way Fido grew and the only way it will grow again.
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! = New entries this week
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: Nov 13, 1999
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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List server: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-47 Page 8 22 Nov 1999
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL | n/c
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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270/101 @ George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-47 Page 9 22 Nov 1999
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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--
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Fidonet oriented news servers
|
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|
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|
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news.osirusoft.com (US west coast)
|
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|
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agnese.fidoitalia.net (Italy)
|
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|
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|
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
|
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|
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|
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
|
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|
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irc.isonline.com
|
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|
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irc.killaz-r-us.com
|
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irc.korombos.org
|
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
|
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|
|
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
|
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|
|
complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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NET HUMOR
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Ice Cream for the Soul
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Thanks to Ol'WDB
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Last week I took my children to a restaurant. My six-year old son
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asked if he could say grace. As we bowed our heads, he said, "God is
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great, God is good. Thank you for the food and I would even thank
|
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|
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you more if Mom gets us ice cream for dessert. And liberty and
|
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|
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justice for all! Amen."
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Along with laughter from the other customers nearby, I heard a woman
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remark, "That's what's wrong with this country. Kids today don't
|
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even know how to pray. Asking God for ice cream! Why, I never!"
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|
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Hearing this, my son burst into tears and asked me, "Did I do it
|
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wrong? Is God mad at me?" As I held him and assured him that he had
|
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done a terrific job and God was certainly not mad at him, an elderly
|
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gentleman approached the table.
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He winked at my son and said, "I happen to know that God thought
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that was a great prayer."
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"Really?" my son asked.
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"Cross my heart."
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|
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woman whose remark had started this whole thing), "Too bad she never
|
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asks God for ice cream. A little ice cream is good for the soul
|
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sometimes."
|
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|
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Naturally, I bought my kids ice cream at the end of the meal. My son
|
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stared at his for a moment and then did something I will remember
|
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the rest of my life.
|
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He picked up his sundae and, without a word, walked over and placed
|
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it in front of the woman. With a big smile he told her, "Here, this
|
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Politically Astute
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Thanks to Roy Reed
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rcreedv@juno.com
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A little boy goes to his dad and asks, "What's politics?" Dad says,
|
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"Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I'm the breadwinner of
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the family, so let's call me Capitalism. Your Mom, she's the
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administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're
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here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you the People. The
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nanny, we'll consider her the Working Class. Now your baby brother,
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we'll call him the Future. Now, think about that and see if that
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makes sense."
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check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his
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diaper. So the little boy goes to his parents' room and finds his
|
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mother sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's
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room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his
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father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed. The
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next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I
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understand the concept of politics now." The father says, "Good son,
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tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about."
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Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being
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| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
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