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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 25 21 June 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
| _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] |
| / \ | June Publication: 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
| | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
| |__U__| / \// | Editor Pro Tem (June 99) |
| _//|| _\ / | Douglas Myers 1:270/720 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: Douglas Myers 1:270/720 |
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| submissions for June: doug@mdtnbbs.com |
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Candidate Evaluations .................................... 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 3
Moderator Rights - The Super-Bitches ..................... 3
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
Small Article - Ray Brown, R14C .......................... 5
Zone 1 Coordinator, Election Information ................. 5
4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 7
God Speaks in one-liners ................................. 7
5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 8
Cows in the Election ..................................... 8
6. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 9
Editor Pro Tem Special ................................... 9
7. NOTICES .................................................. 10
Future History ........................................... 10
Change in FILE_ID.DIZ .................................... 10
8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 11
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EDITORIAL
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Z1C Candidate Evaluations
Douglas Myers
This is an attempt at an objective evaluation of the candidates for
Zone 1 Coordinator in the election currently in progress. Readers
may question the objectivity of one of the candidates offering
evaluations of himself and others. Offhand, I'd say this is a
healthy suspicion... you be the judge. Candidates are discussed in
the order the Election Coordinator processed their nomination.
Douglas Myers - Doug was initially nominated by a group discontent
with the closed elections by the RCs in the past. This issue,
however, has become less prominent because of the willingness of the
RCs to conduct this election in an open format. He is the only
candidate who is not currently an NC or RC with Fidonet, but offers
ZC experience with a small FTSC network. Doug's suitability was
questioned early in the campaign by suspicions that he was directing
a mudslinging campaign employing some contraversial supporters, the
SUPER-BITCHES. At this point, however, those suspicions seem to be
discredited and there is no noticable effect on his candidacy. The
theme of Doug's campaign is to open the zone political process to
all sysops.
Dallas Hinton - Dallas is the candidate most identified as an
insider in political circles, and suffered early criticism based on
this perception. However, he has handled such criticism with grace
and charm, and has been responsive to questions asked of the
candidates. His campaign is helped considerably by the fading of RC
resentment over closed elections, and it appears that his insider
image will not be the detriment some had predicted. Dallas campaign
emphasizes his experience as RC.
David Moufarrege - David, though a sitting RC, seems to have avoided
the insider image. In fact, David's campaign is characterized by a
lack of contraversy. He has been personable and eloquent in his
interaction with sysops throughout the zone. David emphasizes his
accomplishments in integrating Internet nodes with the more
traditional Fido nodes, and points to the tranquilly of his region
as a harbinger of a non-contraversial term as Z1C.
Todd Cochrane - As much as David repels contraversy like a duck's
back repels water, Todd seems to attract it. He came out of the
nomination gate promising a fight, and immediatly drew attacks from
several quarters. However, the contraversy seems to have died down.
Todd's campaign emphasizes strong, authorative leadership with an
agressive approach to technology growth in Fido.
Bobby Queen - Bobby was the last candidate to be nominated, and is
still establishing his campaign. He has been responsive to all
questions and appears to be a credible candidate. His campaign
emphasizes his personal time available to serve as Z1C.
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It's difficult to rank the candidates at this point due to the
representative nature of the voting. Probably, there will be no
definitive perception of the front runners until all the regions
have reported in. It's clear that no one candidate has established
himself as front runner, and no candidate is definately out of the
race.
Another difficulty in ranking the candidates is a lack of
distinguishing issues. So far, all candidates have favored further
integration of Internet nodes into Fidonet, and all candidates have
indicated a need for Policy 4 revisions.
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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MODERATOR RIGHTS, SUPER-BITCHES AND THE ZONE ONE ELECTION
Lesley-Dee Dylan, Lynn Gipson, and Ruth Argust
Last week, Joe Jared published an article in Fidonews which
described what he feels is a political conspiracy in the SUPER-BITCH
echo. As moderator of the Z1_POLITICAL echo, he further issued
warnings to all the participants of SUPER-BITCH and requested a zone
level feed cut of Ruth Argust based on posts in SUPER-BITCH.
The SUPER-BITCH echo is moderated by the Super-Bitches (Lynn Gipson,
Ruth Argust and Lesley-Dee Dylan). Any attempt to moderate this
message echo, by moderators of other echoes in their echoes, is an
infringement of our rights and unacceptable to us.
From some of the comments in other areas about us, it would seem
that the lurkers/visiting moderators have not read back far enough
in the echo to get a true picture of our activities. If they had,
they would have seen that we started off the election campaign with
speculating about how interesting it could be if Tom Cole were
nominated. Then Todd Cochrane stuck his foot in it - again and
again and again.
As for any "conspiracy" of "henchmen" working to support the Douglas
Myers campaign by attacking Todd Cochrane - Todd Cochrane is NOT
Douglas's main competition. If you were reading this echo, you
would know that we do not even consider Todd to have a viable
campaign. Douglas's competition is from David Moufarrege and Dallas
Hinton. There is very little interest in harrassing Dallas, and
absolutely none in harrassing David.
Despite Joe Jared's claim that we "intended" to disrupt the Official
Election Echo, there is not a single post where one person tells
another to say anything in the Election Echo. There are discussions
in the nature of "look at what idiocy Todd posted this time - what a
dolt."
Our actions have taken place in the open. We are not "backroom"
conspirators. Our echotag description tells everyone what we are up
to. Our echo is backboned and available to anyone except Net 163,
whose NEC refuses to carry it.
Joe has also placed all participants in the SUPER-BITCH echo on
notice just because they associated with the so-called "guilty"
parties.
Super-Bitch is a fun echo. We play in there. PLAY, not plot.
Playing leads to a bonding, a friendship, a caring for each other,
and an understanding of each other. We are not trying to overpower
the democratic process. We do support Douglas Myer in his
candidacy, because we have grown to like and understand him, despite
his blue balls. If we were plotting and conspiring to do something
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unethical, we would have been doing so by mailing lists or crashed
netmail.
Also, there is one other problem with the goings on in this
election. Actions have been taken and warnings given, and one
suspension, based on an anonymous accusation. It is a basic
principle of British justice (on which the American justice system
is based) that defendants have a right to face their accuser(s). We
have not seen the accusation. We do not know, fully, what was in
the accusation against us, or who accused us. We also know that the
accusation was doctored up in such a way as to make it look like
Jack Yates had said words that I had typed. The initials LD> were
on the message Jack posted showing where he quoted me. These
initials seem to have been deleted when these lines were put into
the complaint. It also appears, from the small bits of the message
that were cross-posted, that Jack's response to me was deleted,
totally changing the perception of Jack's behaviour, and the
perception of the nature of the entire echo. And Jack never said
anything about Joe being Ross's puppet. I don't think anyone did,
except the accuser.
I think Joe is looking in the wrong place for the conspiracies and
dirty politics. He should be looking at whoever doctored up Jack's
message and sent in the complaint. He should be looking at whoever
it was who lied to him about Jack saying that Joe was Ross Cassell's
puppet.
The rules allowing moderators unfettered rights to toss someone from
their echos should be different for moderators of echos used for
official FidoNet business, whether at the level of a net, region, or
zone. Perhaps now is the time to start discussions of placing
limits on the moderatorship of these official FidoNet echos.
Feed cuts on these official echos should never be issued unless the
offender refuses to cooperate on read-only status. Even when a feed
cut is issued, there should be no objection to a volunteer
forwarding all posts in the echo to netmail so the offender can
still read the echo.
When there are objections to the actions against an offender in an
official echo, then there should be a review. Perhaps all
moderators of backboned echos who are active participants in the
echo could be asked to consult and make a decision on the validity
of the action. This would be a one-warm-body, one vote review,
rather than weighted by number of conferences moderated - i.e. Bob
Moravsik would not get 350 votes to my one-third vote.
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ARTICLES
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Small Article
Ray Brown, 1:286/1701
A brief introduction...
Greetings and salutations! This is Ray Brown, 1:286/1701. I have
been a member (SysOp) of FidoNet for almost 10 years, starting out
as a node in Florida, then for a year in Oklahoma, and for the past
5 years, here in Missouri. For the past year, I have been NC / NEC
of Net 286, and just last week I was elected Regional Coordinator
for Region 14. (Condolences graciously accepted. :-)
I would like to go on record as saying, and I believe my Region
will agree, my vote for the next Z1C will be for somebody that will
start taking a proactive roll in revitalizing FidoNet, including but
not limited to work on a new Policy to replace our 10-year-old
Policy4.
Members of Region 14, get involved NOW. Make your opinions known
NOW. We're already in Phase 2 of the Z1C Election, and I hate
debating in a vacumn. If you don't participate in 14_REC, then
NetMail me and I'll see what we can do.
Thank you!
_Ray_
R14C
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ELECTION INFORMATION
Zone 1 Coordinator
The information below has been summarized from the official posts in
Z1_ELECTION by Ross Cassell, Election Coordinator.
Z1C Candidate Node Number Region *C Position If Any
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Douglas Myers 1:270/720 13
Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 17 RC
David Moufarrege 1:2313/404 13 RC
Todd Cochrane 1:345/2 10 NC
Bobby Queen 1:3667/5 18 NC
Official Election Echoes
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Z1_ELECTION - discussion with candidates
Z1_POLITICAL - side chatter
Election Timetable
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==================
Phase 1: Nomination - completed
Phase 2: Discussion - in progress until 6/26
Sysops discuss issues with the candidates in Z1_ELECTION.
Phase 3: Regional Discussions - 6/27 to 7/3
Sysops vote with their NC who will vote based on their input with
the RC.
Phase 4: Voting By RCC - 7/4 to 7/10
The RCs will vote for the candidates based on input from their
NCs. A candidate is elected with 50% + 1 vote; if no candidate
achieves sufficient votes, a runoff election will be conducted
between the two candidates with the most votes.
Phase 5: Installation of new ZC1 - after orientation
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NET HUMOR
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God Speaks in one-liners
An advertising agency in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida launced this unique
advertising and billboard campaign that even splashed the insides
and outsides of buses, and the bus stop shelters, and which included
a total of 17 different messages from the Big Guy himself, God. This
non-denominational campaign was sponsored by an anonymous client who
forked out literally thousands of dollars.
1. Let's Meet At My House Sunday Before the Game - God
2. C'mon Over And Bring The Kids - God
3. What Part of "Thou Shalt Not..." Didn't You Understand? - God
4. We Need To Talk - God
5. Keep Using My Name in Vain And I'll Make Rush Hour Longer - God
6. Loved The Wedding, Invite Me To The Marriage - God
7. That "Love Thy Neighbor" Thing, I Meant It. - God
8. I Love You...I Love You...I Love You... - God
9. Will The Road You're On Get You To My Place? - God
10. Follow Me. - God
11. Big Bang Theory, You've Got To Be Kidding. - God
12. My Way Is The Highway. - God
13. Need Directions? - God
14. You Think It's Hot Here? - God
15. Tell The Kids I Love Them. - God
16. Need a Marriage Counselor? I'm Available. - God
17. Have You Read My #1 Best Seller? There Will Be A Test. - God
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Cows in the Election
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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
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Editor Pro Tem Special
Maybe you've wanted to publish your own Fidonews article, but
weren't sure how to go about it. Or perhaps you found the
instructions in ARTSPEC.DOC, but they were daunting.
Well, it's time to speak up! During the month of June, I'm running
an "Editor Pro Tem" special. Concentrate on what you have to say
and get it to me in some kind of readable ASCII, and I'll do the
necessary formatting for publication. You can send articles netmail
to Douglas Myers at 1:379/720, or email to doug@mdtnbbs.com.
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NOTICES
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Future History
24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
During the month of June, 1999, the Fidonews Editor is on
vacation. Editor Pro Tem during this period is Douglas Myers,
1:270/720, doug@mdtnbbs.com. Please address correspondence,
article submissions, etc to the above addresses during this time.
Editor: Henk Wolsink
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 5:5/23
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(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 12325
Port Elizabeth,
6006
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