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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 31 3 August 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 |
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"This edition published under duress."
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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Fidonet over IP, Part 3 of 4: ............................ 2
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Join the Maurice Kinal Official Fan Club ................. 8
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4. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 10
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Announcing the WRESTLING_CHAT Echo ....................... 10
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 11
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Future History ........................................... 11
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6. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 12
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 12
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7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 13
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Fidonet Via Internet hubs ................................ 13
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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Once more...
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An interesting turn of events...I suppose that I'll have to actually
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go back and read the messages leading up to the various threats being
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made about myself while pretty much blind the past week.
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How so very odd...
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I never knew that FidoNet had become such an elitist group that it
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had to pass judgment over individuals based on what they post.
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But wait...wasn't that what _I_ have been accused of doing?
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How so very odd.
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ARTICLES
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Fidonet over IP, Part 3 of 4:
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Proposals for integration of IP-nodes in the nodelist
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Copyright 1998 by Lothar Behet
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Part 1 and 2 in last weeks FidoNews issue contained a definition
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of Fidonet-over-IP and the available software.
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As the internet can be used as additional carrier for FidoNet data
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exchange, there are several ways of using its addressing
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capabilities for direct connections between fido-nodes.
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1. IP numbers (dotted quad like 194.231.142.17)
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2. Fully Qualified Domain Names (like fido.nrh.de)
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3. Address resolution by node number in a dedicated domain
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(like f301.n2446.z2.<domain_name>)
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Lets take a look at each of them:
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1. IP numbers
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The direct use of ip numbers looks like a direct replacement for
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a phone number in the conventional environment. Furthermore it
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just contains numbers, which is in accordance to the possible
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format for a phone number in the St.Louis nodelist format.
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The dashes in the nodelist may be translated by an actual nodelist
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compiler without further complications, as soon as the program has
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an information about the real contents of the phone number field in
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the nodelist, which may be signified by a flag or eventually just
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by a special country code.
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This already shows the major problem for conventional nodes:
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There is a high risk for calling an ip number as direct phone
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number, if the system in question is not aware of it.
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As any system uses a dial translation table, the special country
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code for ip numbers is required anyway for safe dial suppression
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in that case.
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Furthermore this is only usable for nodes with an static ip number,
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but this does not imply a permanent connection.
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2. Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN)
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The FQDN uses a special service in the internet, the Domain Name
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Service (DNS), which translates a name (i.e. fido.nrh.de) to
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(normally) an static ip number (194.231.142.17). Furthermore
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the FQDN may be resolved to a dynamic ip number, if such a
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service is used (i.e. dyn.ml.org, dynip.com), so that even
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nodes with a normal dialin connection may utilize this system.
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But there is no possibility for publishing a FQDN in the phone
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field, according to FTS-5, on which any conventional fidonet
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system is based for the dialing part.
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The FQDN has to be published in another field, i.e. system name,
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location or flag space in the nodelist.
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As ip numbers and FQDNs are not geographically organised, this
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(sometimes quite interesting) information should still be kept
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in the nodelist.
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Some programs just examine a part of the flag space, so this
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field might not be the optimal choice, as we need some of it
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for additional flags.
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So the system name seems to be the most appropriate, based on
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technical reasons.
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3. Address resolution by node number in a dedicated domain
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(like f301.n2446.z2.<domain_name>)
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This schedule is already used in the domain "fidonet.org" (run by
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George Peace, Pennsylvania Online) for the addressing of gateways
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between fidonet and internet. "fidonet.net" (run by Ustinov Fyodor,
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Prospect Investment) uses the same schedule for addressing normal
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nodes, which have an MX-entry (mail exchange) pointing to their
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FQDN or static ip number in that domain.
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As domain names are not free of charge, these rely on a good willing
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sponsor or the community has to share the costs of it.
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The publication of an entry in this schedule may be done by any
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node, that fulfills the requirements of the domain administrator.
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In practice, the publication is easy, but mostly the information
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about stopping a certain service is forgotten by individual nodes.
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Normally, a network coordinator (NC) is quite informed about his
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networks status, but not all of them have internet connectivity
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for servicing this system and therefore the maintenance may fall
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out of the responsible *C-class within the FidoNet.
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Based on this considerations, i wrote a proposal for the
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integration of ip nodes in the nodelist after examining
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the results of my "ip-query-sheet" in IP_CONNECT
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(version 2.0, dated Jan. 4th, 1998):
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>-8------------------------ byte here ------------------------8-<
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Proposal for integration of IP-Nodes into the Nodelist
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by Lothar Behet, v. 2.0
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1. The phone_field is used for the ip-number.
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This implies a special country code for ip-nodes, which might
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result in 000-aaa-bbb-ccc-ddd for an ip-address. The prefix
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"000-" may not be shortened or modified in any way by existing
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or future software, as a mixup with conventional phone numbers
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will lead to an annoying misbehaviour.
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Without dial-translation this prefix will normally result in
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undiable numbers. In special cases (pbx) a dial-translation is
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implemented in the nodelistcompiler or the mailer, so that no
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erronious dials can occure.
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The mostly character-based FQDN will result in an undiable
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number by most modems (analog and ISDN), but the usage is
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limited until any existing nodelist software has proven its
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compatibility with these entries.
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In the meantime the FQDN may be published in the system_name_field
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and nodelist compilers (or utilities) should optionally use that
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field for exaggeration of the FQDN.
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2.1 Individual flags for ip-based handshaking protocols
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As there are existing flags on a wide range of leading characters
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(sometimes forming groups like H(st) or Z(yxel)), a special
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lead-in character seems reasonable for ip-flags, especially
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for human readability and easy utility construction.
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The genaral format is
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<basic_transport>:<port>:<handshake_specification>
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Basic transport is required.
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As many setups use the default ports, this part may be omitted.
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Handshake specification is another optional field.
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The construction of the flag-set is designed for nowadays available
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software and allows in most cases a seamless implementation on many
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systems.
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2.1.1 basic transport
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The proposed flags for transport layer (includes some hansshake
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protocols) are:
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IBN BinkP (default port 24554)
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IFC ifcico (default port 60179)
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ITN telnet (default port 23)
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IVM Vmodem (default port 3141)
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IP raw tcp (anything else, which is not
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specified by other transport flag)
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These are mainly focused on the nowadays available programs
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and subject to expansion in the future.
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As intermediate option the general flag "IP" is proposed for
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new technologies, to allow rapid distribution until exact
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protocol specifications are published. Until then, the
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interested nodes may define their capabilities usinf the
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full format (2.1.1 to 2.1.3).
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2.1.2 port specification (optional)
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Non-standard ports use a colon as delimiter behind the
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basic transport flag, i.e.:
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ITN:60177 ifcico with additonal telnet-patch (port 60177)
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2.1.3 handshake session specification (optional)
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These follow the specifications for conventional mailers.
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1 FTS-0001
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Y Yohoo
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E EMSI
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B BinkP
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Multi-protocol capable mailers should listen to the specific
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default ports or use the optional port specification.
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Sample:
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IP:24555:1YEB uses raw ip on port 24555 and supports
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sessions according to FTS-1, Yohoo, EMSI
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and BinkP
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Additional protocols may be developed in the future and added to
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this list, if the specification is publicly available.
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2.2 Flags for other ip-based protocols and other capabilities
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IEM Email-based (generally)
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IFT File Tranfer Protocol (FTP)
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ITX Transx
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IUC Uuencoded packet (one per message)
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This list may be extended in the future, too.
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2.3 Additional flags/special purpose
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IFQ This flags advises the nodelist-compiler to use the
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system_name_field as "fully qualified domain name" in
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place of the ip-address in the phone_field
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3. At least one flag of group 2.1 (including optional non-standrad
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ports) is required for an ip-node. Additional publication of
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non-handshaking-potocols (group 2.2) is allowed.
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4. The minimum online-time is either CM or clearly stated through
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a T-flag according the known specification in the (Zone2)
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nodelist. ZMH-only ip-nodes are not excluded from the nodelist.
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>-8------------------------ byte here ------------------------8-<
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In return, Marco d'Itri created his own one :), which differs in
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some aspects:
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1. He uses the "IP" as a general flag for exclusion of
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ip-node-dialing by conventional nodes.
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2. Usage of other flag names (based on the usage in Z2 at this
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moment)
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Handshaking protocols:
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IBN --> BNP BinkP
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IFC --> RAW ifcico
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ITN --> TELN Telnet
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IVM --> VMP Vmodem
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Additional protocols:
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IEM --> IEM generally Email based
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IFT --> FTP FTP based
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ITX --> TRX TransX based
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IUC --> UUE uuencoded packet (one per message)
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In his FTA-proposal, Marco decided to prefer the location field
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in place of the system name as place to publish the FQDN.
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>-8------------------------ byte here ------------------------8-<
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Both actually filed complete proposals in "IP_CONNECT" try to
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integrate the ip nodes in the nodelist and leave room for combined
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entries, as the FQDN (or an ip number) is announced in another field
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beside the phone number.
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The responsibility for these entries is inside the normal *C-class
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within FidoNet.
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There were some more ideas on certain parts and additionally the
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proposal of "fidonet.net"-domain-service, which puts responsibilities
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outside the *C-class.
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Part 4 (next week :) will contain my considerations about policy
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requirements for ip-nodes, possibilities with these proposals and
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some additional comments.
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Sources and availability:
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For an actual compilation of sources, download and other
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information, just take a look on
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FIDONEWS 15-31 Page 7 3 Aug 1998
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http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido/
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(The site is tri-lingual (english/german/partly esperanto) at
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this moment, but volunteer translators are already busy :)
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Testing FIP all around the world:
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Beside connections to the authors system (fido.nrh.de at
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194.231.142.17) with BinkP:24554, Telnet:23 and Vmodem:3141,
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the above mentioned website offers an ip nodelist, which is
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continuously growing :)
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Legal information:
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Copyright 1998 by Lothar Behet
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This series of articles may be distributed freely within
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the fidonet community.
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The distribution (partially or complete) on digital or printed media
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without explicit authorization of the author is prohibited.
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Dear Editorbeing,
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This column is submitted by Doc Logger(163/110) who was
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shocked and dismayed and amused and surprised that in
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addition to his many other deficiencies, Ward Dossche owns
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ABBA records. If ever his legions of detractors needed proof
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of his strange intent towards Fidonet, his musical tastes
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must surely be proof positive. As the good and decent people
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that we are, I suggest that someone offer to hem his
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bell-bottoms so that rampant democracy doesn't get out of
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hand and cross the Atlantic to North America.
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Roll da flic, Zorch....
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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It has been another slow week in Fidoland. If it weren't
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for the fact that my annual zucchini crop was about to
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undergo its logarithmic expansion, I'd have almost no
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serious issues to confront. Mercifully, Darryl Gregorash has
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kept the ZIC echo alive with his endless requoting of a John
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F. Kennedy piece of fluff. The fact that Kennedy neither
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wrote it, nor believed in it, doesn't seem to faze Darryl in
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the least. The essence of the debate is whether the
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elflords, by virtue of enough fartcatching to have been
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appointed to sit at Satti's feet, have the Divine right to
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override majority opinion and vote according to what they
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presume to be the best interests of Fidopeasants.
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Unfortunately, Satti remains cowering in his bunker and
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hasn't emerged for months. Our prayers and our edible
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underwear should go out to him in his many hours of
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narcosis.
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As I mentioned last week, I've been beavering over a program
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to simulate a number of events which occurred in the early
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life of the universe. The program is being written in
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Italian, which is to say that it is some of the worst
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spaghetti code ever written if you discount the efforts of
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the patients of the Head Injury Re-Learning Centre who
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invented COBOL. Actually, the core of the program is written
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in PROLOG which is touted as an "artificial intelligence"
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language. (What this really means is that you have to be an
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acid crazed dwarf to understand PROLOG's syntax.) The reason
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that I chose to torture myself by using PROLOG is that I
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needed something with the bizarre ability to rewrite the
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executable program on the fly to foreshorten some of the 100
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million iterative steps. The results which slowly emerge
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from the program are quite amusing. For example, had the Big
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Bang generated just a tiny fraction less mass, the world
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would have been spared the abomination of yogurt. (The world
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also would have been spared of life, but that is a minor
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price to pay for a yogurt free universe.)
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This would be an ideal place to segue into the gestalt of
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programming, and from there into a discussion of what makes
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a medium like Fidonet. Judging from the first sentence in
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this paragraph, all six readers of the Snooz will already
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know that there are some hairpin turns involved in the
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thought processes necessary to connect these concepts. To
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start with, I've been intrigued by the way people write
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computer programs which is analogous to the way people write
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novels or paint pictures. Some people start with a clear
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vision of what the finished product should be and map the
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outlines of the intervening steps. Others, see a goal and
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launch into the process without clear definition of how to
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get there. The former type of programmers are generally more
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reliable, but the latter are often the beneficiaries of
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serendipitous discoveries along the way. In the interval
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between the two styles are those who get lost in the
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process. It is getting lost in the process that brings this
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around to the issue of Fidonet.
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The same issues that continually arise with respect to the
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Snooz have recently emerged in the FN_SYSOP echo. Legions of
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sysops express opinions about "what should not be." In the
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|
case of the Snooz, the objections trend towards whichever
|
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sacred moose isn't being given preferential reportage. What
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most of the critics seem to ignore is that *they* are the
|
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reporters who could submit whatever it is that would satisfy
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their notions of "what should be." Unfortunately, the energy
|
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required to make those submissions is redirected towards
|
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advocating what should be excluded. The FN_SYSOP echo is a
|
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sort of microcosm of the Fidonet world and we have been
|
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blessed by the musings of Maurice Kinal who believes that a
|
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moderator should impose some sort of vision on the echo. The
|
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desire has been expressed in phrases such as "higher ideals"
|
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etc. Sadly, raising the ideals seems to involve removing
|
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|
anything deemed to contrary to that goal. In my opinion
|
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|
(entirely devoid of any speck of humility), the key to
|
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raising the tenor of any echo is by positive contribution as
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opposed to negative sanctions.
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I must go Visage, Ron Mitchell has caused many sleepless
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nights by informing me that my entire stuffed armadillo
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collection may be infected with leprosy. If he's right, I'll
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have to start losing more bets.
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Regards,
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Doc Logger
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Furlang Island,
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South Pacific
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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
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Announcing the WRESTLING_CHAT Echo
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Emanuel Edwards
|
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1:348/963
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emanuel@escape.ca
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Hello all Fidonet Sysops:
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Where else can you find a great echo that will increase the users on
|
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your BBS? Well here is the answer to your question.
|
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|
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The WRESTLING_CHAT echo can be classified as one of the best echo on
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Fidonet today. If you don't have internet access and want to read
|
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all the latest news in the wrestling world this echo will provide you
|
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with all the valuable information. In the last 6 months the echo
|
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been getting well over 200 messages a week. Once you request the
|
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WRESTLING_CHAT on your BBS you will see a great increase in news
|
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users on your BBS.
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Make that important decision today and request this great and
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interesting echo on your BBS. If you need more information about the
|
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echo you can contact me by email at emanuel@escape.ca
|
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|
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The Areatag for the echo is WRESTLING_CHAT
|
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Moderator for the echo is Emanuel Edwards
|
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Co_Moderator for the echo is Barry Laws JR
|
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Volume of Mail in one months 1000 to 1200
|
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|
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|
WRESTLING_CHAT one of the best echo on fidonet today.
|
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|
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|
Emanuel
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Internet emanuel@escape.ca
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Fidonet 1:348/963
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NOTICES
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Future History
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5 Oct 1998
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29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus".
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14 Sep 1998
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Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
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22 Sep 1998
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First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
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23 Nov 1998
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35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
|
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|
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16 Feb 1999
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13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.
|
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|
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12 May 1999
|
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12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
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10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
|
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|
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24 Jul 1999
|
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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9 Jun 1999
|
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Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
|
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|
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31 Dec 1999
|
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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|
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1 Jan 2000
|
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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|
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1 Jun 2000
|
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|
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
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|
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15 Sep 2000
|
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|
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
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|
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1 Jan 2001
|
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
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|
|
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|
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] or download it from
|
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|
IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 anytime Zone 1 ZMH at 300-9600+ V34.
|
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The FidoNews key is also available on the FidoNews homepage listed
|
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in the Masthead information.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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|
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|
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|
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
|
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|
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
|
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
|
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|
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
|
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1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo.
|
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1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
|
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1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
|
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1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
|
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1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr.
|
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1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
|
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1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
|
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1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo.
|
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1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
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1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
|
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1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
|
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1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
|
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1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
|
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1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
|
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1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
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1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
|
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2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
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2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
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2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
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2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
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2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
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2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
|
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5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
|
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|
--
|
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+ VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
|||
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+ F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
|
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+ UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
|
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compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
|
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Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
|
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|
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|
___
|
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|
! Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
|||
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FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
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|
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|
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|
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FidoNet:
|
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|
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FIDONEWS 15-31 Page 14 3 Aug 1998
|
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|
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|
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
|||
|
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
|
|||
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FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
|
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Echomail [pending]
|
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WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
|
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General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
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http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
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Region 25:
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http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (Swiss?)
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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4
|
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Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
|
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Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
|
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
|
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
|
|||
|
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
|
|||
|
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
|
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should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
|
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Zorch Frezberg
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker
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zorch@kumr.lns.com
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
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ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
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ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
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You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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