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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 30 27 July 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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"This edition published under duress."
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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FidoNet over IP, Part 1 of 4 ............................. 2
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FidoNet over IP, Part 2: What do I need for it? .......... 5
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Cosmology predestines yogurt ............................. 8
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 10
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Future History ........................................... 10
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5. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 11
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 11
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6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
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FIDONEWS 15-30 Page 1 27 Jul 1998
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EDITORIAL
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With all else going on, the eye surgery seems to have taken a turn
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for the worse, so this one will be mostly brief.
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Lothar Behet has submitted the start of a series of articles on the
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ideas and concepts of FidoNet over IP addressing that are worthy of
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review and merit. The first two of a projected four parts are in
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this issue.
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I've also been advised of something forthcoming from one of the FTSC
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working groups, which has not yet arrived in the Editor's inbound.
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As to the vagaries of Zone 1, always keep in mind that not all sides
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have been heard from.
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ARTICLES
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FidoNet over IP, Part 1 of 4
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Copyright by Lothar Behet
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Part 1:
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What is Fidonet over IP?
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Fidonet-over-IP (later called "FIP" in this article) tries to
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integrate another medium as carrier-service beside the conventional
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telephony connectivity.
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The most basic technical specification of Fidonet (FTS-1, version 15,
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dated Aug. 30 1990) describes the handshake procedure, as it can be
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used within conventional pstn environments.
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Foreseeing the technical development, Chapter H leaves room for
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future extensions:
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| H. Physical Layer : the Actual Connection of Two FidoNet Systems
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| Will one of the more hardware-oriented comm types give me some
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| idea of what's needed here? Can we leave it open enough to allow
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| implementation over a non-dial net? Thanks.
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The internet is just one more possible physical layer in place of a
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direct (sometimes quite expensive) connection between two nodes.
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It may be discussed, if FTS-1 handshake specification is required for
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a fidolike connection via the internet, but in any case the nodelist
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based data should be directly used for the dial attempt and the
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(possible) authentication of a direct session using another carrier.
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So the transfer of data via FTP (direct connection, but completely
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independant of any nodelist data) or Email based methods (just
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delivering something to a mailbox) are not fido-like in the direct
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sense of FIP.
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The Nodelist:
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For this connection one data is required in any case:
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The replacement for the phone-number is the ip-nummber,
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i.e. 194.231.142.17. Furthermore the internet utilizes the DNS
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(Domain Name Service) for a more mnemonic presentation (FQDN,
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Fully Qualified Domain Name) of the same system, i.e. fido.nrh.de.
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The use of DNS gives additional advantages:
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- load balancing between several computers for the same service
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- backup against system failure
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But DNS has one real shortcoming:
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It does not fit in any way in the nowadays used nodelist format,
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based on FTS-5 (released 5. February 1989).
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This so called St.Louis-format has only one entry for a
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"connection point", which is basically defined as sequence
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of numbers, seperated by dashes. Other characters may not be
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used in this field, as several (older) programs can not handle
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other contents.
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The ip-number normally contains points in place of dashes, but
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that conversion would only be a small problem for actual suppor-
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ted software.
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Older programs cannot see the difference between a phone number
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and an ip-number in this field, so they have to examine the flag
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field for this differentiation.
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This leaves room for any twit-sysop, to dial an ip-number with
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his modem, which is at least annoying for the opponent side of
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the connection and may cost some bucks of dollar for the
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unexperienced sysop.
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But there is a solution:
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Not one system using the nodelist can dial a number without
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a dial translation table, as the data in the nodelist is
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normally undiable by itself. So the utilization of an unused
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country code gives room for suppression of dial attempts on
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ip-numbers by conventional pstn users.
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The selection of the country code "000" in Z2 was taken after
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some discussion, as this prefix is an emergency code in some
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countries. But any other prefix is or may be used for legal
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country codes at a given time and only under very rare circum-
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stances (the sysop twit with a dial translation enabling this
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number) a call would by made by a modem.
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Another solution is defining another field for the ip-address,
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which is possible by itself, as older software would in no case
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use it for a connection.
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- Flag field: any content may be possible here, but some programs
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only take care of the first 32-64 characters of it (and we need
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this room later, as you will see :).
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- Location field: it normaly gives information about the geo-
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graphical position of the individual node, which is redundant
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to the phone number. But ip-numbers are not geographically
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oriented and and the fqdn may be any sequence of characters.
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- System name field: it serves sometimes as an additional
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"human readable flag extension" and sometimes shows the
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"hidden ego" of the sysop.
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The usage of any of these three fields leaves room for
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another intention:
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Definition of a "combined entry", which includes one ip
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connectivity and one conventional in a single entry in
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the nodelist. Furthermore all may carry either characters
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or numbers, so ip numbers or FQDN may be used to the actual
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sysops intention. Just the locally used nodelist compiler
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has to know, which field to use for the preparation of ip
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connections.
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As shown above, the system name field would be the logical
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decision under technical aspects, as it serves the least
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significant part of information of these three, while on
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the other hand the FQDN may be defined in a wide range
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(something like "mybbs.mydomain.org").
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There surely are other solutions for the nodelist problem:
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1. Define a completely new nodelist structure, which contains
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any valuable information about all connectivity variants of a
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given node.
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This might be a future project, but when will this future
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become reality?
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2. utilize pure internet techniques for ip-connectivity, i.e.
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fidonet.net in eastern europe. This method is nearly completely
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independant from nodelist data, except that the address presen-
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tation f3000.n2.z2.fidonet.net looks like the addressing
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schedule for gateways in the fidonet.org domain.
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After 5 months of discussion in IP_CONNECT several proposals were
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defined (part 3).
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The next part will contain an exerpt about actual used protocols
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for FIP.
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The author:
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Netmail : 2:2446/301 aka 2:2/3000
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Email : lbehet@nrh.de
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Apr. 1991: gets member of FidoNet
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May 1993: Hub for the area of Kleve, Germany (near the dutch border)
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Jan. 1997: Host for Net 2:2446
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Jun. 1997: utilization of ip-connections for Fidonet
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Sep. 1997: First ip-node 2:2/3000 in Z2
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Jul. 1998: FIP-site: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido/ ,
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includes ip-nodelist, information, software
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Legal information:
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Copyright 1998 by Lothar Behet
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This series of articles may be distributed freely within the
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fidonet community.
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The distribution (partially or complete) on digital or printed
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media without explicit authorization of the author is prohibited.
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FIDONEWS 15-30 Page 5 27 Jul 1998
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FidoNet over IP, Part 2: What do I need for it?
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Copyright 1998 by Lothar Behet
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FidoNet over IP - What's that?
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Beside the direct transfer of any data via FTP (File Transfer
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Protocol) or Email, the internet supports the tunneling of
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protocol data, based on other structures, in ip-packets.
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This is used by FIP to establish a direct, password-secured
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connection between any two nodes with the internet as alter-
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native carrier. Only for the time of this connection both nodes
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need to be hooked up to the internet.
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Depending on the actual implementation, the data may be transfered
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by a normal mailer or an especially for ip-transfer designed program,
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whereas (in future) nodelist contents will be used directly for
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dialing and authentication purposes.
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Available Programs
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1. BinkD
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BinkD is a pure ip-mailer, which uses the known Binkley style out-
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bound and expands conventional systems by an internet based access.
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BinkP is the publicly available protocol specification (default
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port 24554), which is implemented in other programs (i.e. Argus,
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BBBS) in the meantime.
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BinkD is at this moment of writing available for FreeBSD, Linux,
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OS/2, Windows 95 and Windows NT as well as sourcecode.
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2. Vmodem and other device drivers
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Vmodem is a "Virtual MODEM" (comparable to cfos for ISDN cards),
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which emulates a comport for conventional programs. It is part of
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Ray Gwinn's SIO device driver package for OS/2. Beside its own
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Vmodem protocol (default port 3141), telnet sessions (default
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port 23) are possible.
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RL-Fossil represents a similar implementation for DOS or single
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DOS-tasks running in another multi-tasking environment.
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3. ifcico
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ifcico is a fidonet mailer for *nix operating systems (default
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port 60179).
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Beside modem connectivity it naturally supports data transfer via
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ip. The default port is 60179, but with an additional TX-patch it
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may utilize Telnet sessions (default port 60177).
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4. Telnet
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Telnet is originally a terminal program, as it may be used for
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internet based access to a mailbox. Via the default port 23,
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FTN-compatible sessions may be handled.
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5. Other possibilities
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FTP and Email-based proceedings are not FIP in direct sense, but
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they can save some money on long distance transfers in any way.
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Features and advantages of FIP
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Basically anybody can utilize FIP, as long as he has any kind of
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access to the internet. The only condition is, that both opponents :)
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are actually hooked up (even as dial-in) to the internet, as long as
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the connection exists. A frequently called system may think of an
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steady connection to the internet.
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The available bandwidth for data transfer can normally not be
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calculated, as it relies on the smallest one in any given part
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of the actual connection.
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With nowadays used multitasking operating systems, FIP may the
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used in parallel to any other utilization of the internet (surfing,
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chatting, ...), without requiring another dial attempt in opposit
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to conventional usage.
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(In-)Compatibilities within FidoNet-over-IP
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- BinkD as pure mailer conforming to the BinkP-specification can
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only connect to opponets with the same protocol. It's main
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usage is as additional task for IP to existing other mailers,
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as it uses the widely spread binkley style outbound structure.
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- Vmodem is unhappily only available as device driver for OS/2,
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but has there the advantage of easy implementation for nearly
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any communication program, including a wide range of conven-
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tional mailers. The installation just requires the selection
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of an appropriate (virtual) comport.
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- ifcico is only available for unix-style operating systems, but
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with the additional TX-patch may connect to any other system
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via the telnet-protocol.
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- Telnet is supported on nearly any platform (including rlfossil
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for DOS), but may raise some problems depending on the individual
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installation.
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- All of these rely on an existing TCP/IP-stack, which is sometimes
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integral part of the operating system (*nix, OS/2 since Warp3
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Connect, Windows 95, Windows NT). For DOS and Windwos 3.x addi-
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tional drivers are available.
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Sources and availability:
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For an actual compilation of sources, downloads and other
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information, just take a look on
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http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido/
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(The site is bi-lingual (english/german) at this moment,
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but volunteer translators are already busy :)
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Testing FIP all around the world:
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Beside connections to the authors system (fido.nrh.de at
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194.231.142.17) with BinkP:24554, Telnet:23 and Vmodem:3141,
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the above mentioned website offers an ip nodelist, which is
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continuously growing :)
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Legal information:
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Copyright 1998 by Lothar Behet
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This series of articles may be distributed freely within the
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fidonet community.
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The distribution (partially or complete) on digital or printed media
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without explicit authorization of the author is prohibited.
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Dear Editorbeing,
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This article is submitted by Doc Logger(163/110) who has
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spent the week remembering why he hates programming. The
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cause of this renewed realization was an attempt to simulate
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the collapse of a galactic cluster.
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Roll da flic, Zorch...
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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This has been a relatively slow week in Fidoland. Bob Kohl
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remained true to type and made his exit as RC10 into a
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singularly petulant and ugly event. In his last gasps, he
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offered to post an archive of messages with Satti to
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demonstrate god knows what. What is amusing about Kohl's
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threat is that he seems to be one of the few labouring under
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the delusion that Satti's incompetence would be a revelation
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Dossche. It is a pity that the threat of democracy causes
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incident, a raft of talking heads were asking the question:
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this week's article and I wouldn't want to disappoint the
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lil' tater-tot. Since you weren't around, I let Walloonetta
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accompany my teenmonsters to the Warped Tour concert in
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Montreal last night. You'll be sooo pleased to know that the
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best song of the night was "Cook Your Father" by a band
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called "Dahmer's Diner."
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Furlang Island,
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with a Subject line of: help
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instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
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www.fidonews.org.
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http://www.fidonews.org
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
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FIDONEWS 15-30 Page 17 27 Jul 1998
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
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email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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1:1/23 [1:205/1701] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
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IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X. It
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is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
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Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone
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Coordinators also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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and are used with permission.
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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