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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 22 1 June 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Blows Against What Empire?
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
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Loggerhead is borirrrrrring .............................. 3
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 4
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Pass The Mashed Bananas .................................. 4
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4. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 9
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Crossposted in FTSC ...................................... 9
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 10
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Future History ........................................... 10
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6. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 11
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 11
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7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 14
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FIDONEWS 15-22 Page 1 1 Jun 1998
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EDITORIAL
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A bit of international news, and then nothing...? Hmmm...I would
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have suspected much more going on worlwide in FidoNet than just one
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issue's worth of news.
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As it is, enough mail has trickled through in the FidoNet Technical
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Standards Committee to generate the need for a decision, and under
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the rules of the FTSC, public input is requested, as presented below,
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and taken from the FTSC_PUBLIC echo. No formal notice was sent to
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the FidoNews...which seems odd for an intent of soliciting public
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input.
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Doc Logger appears yet again, along with an interesting observation
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of his writing and prose.
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In general news and information, it appears that more and more people
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seem to feel that trying matters in the 'court of public opinion' has
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more weight and value than trying to resolve matters through the very
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simple process established within FidoNet Policy.
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Moreso when claims of legal action are bandied about by those with
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little or no legal experience to assess the validity of these claims.
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If nothing else, this should be amusing to watch.
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On another note, the message I received from a node in the former
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Soviet Union has not been followed up by the writer. It would be
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most interesting to hear from the "Quiet Giant" in Zone 2 and get a
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perspective that many in the West do not have available to them.
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If nothing else, it would be an interesting forum for the discussion
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of the formation of "Zone 7", and offering both a true and earnest
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representation of those who had no voice before.
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Also, it would seem that more people are discovering Adrian Walker's
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"so long and thanks for all the fish" message, posted on his website.
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It's interesting to see so many cast blame and accusations over this,
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but so far only see two people actually propose to do anything about
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the loss of the EchoList management of tags.
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For those of you who don't know, Adrian has apparently decided to
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shut it down without offering the code to run it. Certainly, that is
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his perogative...after all, it _is_ his code.
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But my feeble attempt to recall the past remembers that his
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predecessor, Mike Fuchs, offered to make _his_ code available at the
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least to his successor, but the offer was refused...am I incorrect in
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my recollection of this?
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And, on a last note...
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I receive a number of commercial E-Mails from various companies and
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FIDONEWS 15-22 Page 2 1 Jun 1998
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corporations around the world, offering 'free trial' software or
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equipment, or offering 'discounts' on the same...
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Should I post these in the FidoNews each week, or not?
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Your input is welcome on the idea...these are not paid advertising,
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nor is there usually any graphics attached. These are generally
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press releases from these companies.
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However, I'm not at all certain if these would be appropriate to
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include. On the one hand, they are commercial; on the other hand,
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these often include materials of general interest to sysops.
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Feel free to contact me at 1:1/23, or at editor@fidonews.org.
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ARTICLES
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Loggerhead is borirrrrrring
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by Bob "Bobo I" Moravsik
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Each week the nodes that read Fidonews must mechanically
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skip over the drival written by Doc (doctor of buffoonery)
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Loggerhead. Its the same old stuff:
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Dear Rev Whatever....
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Then some bellowing about Satti...Zorch and Kohl.
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This is followed by a paragraph on "peefour"
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a document that has words larger then 5 letters.
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Loggerhead shows he hasn't yet gotten to section
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8. Doc...to modify Fidonet's policy one
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must restate it then get 50%+1 of the RC's
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to present it to the IC for a *C vote. Sorry
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but any other way ya got a document that shares
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one property with you...being a phony,
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Hey...Satti ain't perfect but he's the IC and ZC1.
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Kohl ain't perfect but he's the RC10. Loggerhead
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ain't perfect and he's a buffoon. What these
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guys do is a lot more constructive then the
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repititious ravings that Loggerhead stuffs into
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Fidonews. Maybe we should have two additions:
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Fidonews I for the regular nodes and Fidonews II
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with Doc Buffoon's column that will someday
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line the cages of electronic birds.
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Give it up Loggerhead....you are like a fire
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dectector...all noise...no substance. You waste
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bandwith in the echo and seem to have attracted
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no allies. I guess when one is a doctor of buffoonery
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and stuff white powder your his nose all day...your
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keyboard is your only outlet.
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Go away...leave Fidonet to normal people.
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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,
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This article is submitted by Doc Logger(163/110) who was
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awash in mashed bananas which he was gumming in teary-eyed
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nostalgia about the good old days. Of course, for Logger,
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the "good old days" are anything that happened before
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yesterday but that is a minor semantic quibble.
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Roll da flic, Zorch....
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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This may be longer than my usual bird cage liner because it
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represents a sort of milestone in my less than sterling
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pursuit as a Fidonet columnist. There have been
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miscellaneous articles and letters before I started
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sequentially numbering them, but this represents the 50th
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column that I have submitted in the format of letters to
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you. The fact that you are stuck in a Thai bordello with
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opium vacuity in your eyes, large lizards trying to eat your
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spleen, and vicious nightmares involving Henry Kissinger
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tormenting your every waking hour, are all of small
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consequence to me. I've already become independently wealthy
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by selling the future rights to your brain. Surprisingly,
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the Smithsonian Institute was outbid by a small tribe in
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Borneo who claimed that it must represent the largest
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earthly repository of pure Ibogaine.
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I meant to start off with something sentimentally touching
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like "Roll da flic, Zorch, Tom, Thom, Dale, Vince, Tim,
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Sylvia, Donald & Christopher.." In honour of all the
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Fidonews editors who have seen fit to include my weaselings
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in the esteemed Snooz organ. It is a great credit to all the
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people on the list that the Snooz at least withstood the
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slings and arrows of outrageous elflords and remained true
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to its purpose. It is not as if there weren't moments when
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Fidonews was in peril, particularly from elflords like
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Bonine and the occasional whining from Dallas Hinton. I have
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just completed reading all the Fidonews that have ever been
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issued and what a strange and interesting history it
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represents.
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I'd would like to roll back a few pages and talk about the
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Glory Days of Fidonet. (If it isn't too much trouble, you
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may want to cue up some sentimental music...something that
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stirs the heart... y'know, music with tubas and all-nude
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majorette dancing girls.) I have in my study, a faded and
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yellow print-out of a chat I had with Bert Binary in
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December, 1985. He had just set up his BBS and we were
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discussing the concept of creating an echomail conference
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that could be passed between our systems. During the
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conversation, a spider strolled across Bert's monitor. The
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spider became a topic of discussion and somehow got named
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"Spike." The echomail conference became "Spike's Bar" - a
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sort of semi-fiction, roman au clef, circus, roadshow and
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irreverent conversation echo. I subsequently discovered that
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the echomail conference was among the first of what were
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ultimately called "rogue" echos. It propagated outside the
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backbone structure reaching Vienna, Montana and occasionally
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we would get strange and incomprehensible netmail from
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Australians who had somehow linked into the echo.
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What made the echo remarkable was the the messages were
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creative, witty and there were *hundreds* of them every day.
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I do mean messages, and not the quote-'N- grunt vulture shit
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that permeates echomail conferences today. One of the Great
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Themes that emerged in that echo was the delicious pastime
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of satirizing the various presumptive rulers of Fidonet. In
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general, we chose local targets but since that represented
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the era where Tom Kashuba's many personalities reigned, it
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was a rich environment for poking fun at the morons.
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Spike's Bar was where you made your echomail debut with the
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immortal line: "Your lips are like two roses in dung." You
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brought us Lucie LaFlamme whose short-short skirts and whose
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Franglais language was a great amusement. Out of Spike's
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Bar, five full length cheesy electronic novels were spun
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off.
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So, at this moment, I'd like to hoist another glass of
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Ibogaine to Spike, and all his characters and friends who
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gave me years of enjoyment from Fidonet. It is an acute
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embarrassment that I have been reduced to an old troll whose
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message output is almost entirely devoted to poking sticks
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at dumb, confused Fido elflords. If I were honest about it,
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which I'm rarely inclined to be, I'd say that a great deal
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of my disgust with the Fido elflords has to do with the fact
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that their intrusions led all of us to get lost in the
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process and to forget that the medium is capable of magic
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moments.
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The second nostalgic event is of a savage and ugly nature.
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I'd read Fido admin echos with detached amusement as the
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elflords battled with serfs, and as tyrants like Bonine
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stamped their jackboots across the noble dream that Tom
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Jennings had created. The only "political" inclinations I
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network could be created with anarchy as its guiding
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premise. The militantly public domain status of some of the
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early software, the lack of commercial domination, and the
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fact that it joined a world - were all things that caused me
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to marvel in wide-eyed amazement.
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The event, which was 10 or 11 years ago, that toppled me
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from complacency was a netmail message from a friendly
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local sysop who advised me that I really ought to attend the
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upcoming Net163 sysop meeting because on the agenda was a
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resolution to remove my nodenumber for "bringing Fidonet
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into disrepute." I did attend the meeting and was stunned
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that the issues involved the International propagation of
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the Spike's Bar echo. This may sound incredible now, but the
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theses of the sysop who proposed the resolution was that
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Fidonet was a medium whereby sysops should be "serious"
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exchanging technical information or talking about computers
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or software. In the proponent's mind, there was no place or
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room for fun in Fidonet and certainly no allowance should be
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given to an echo which featured a spider who worked as a
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bartender.
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Our NC at the time, a fellow named Al Hacker who had all the
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literate skills of a Bob Kohl and half the brains, took the
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resolution seriously. I glanced around the room and it
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occurred to me that the NC, the NEC, and all of the HUBS ran
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Mail Only systems. Not only did they not have human callers,
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but the only messages they ever wrote were self-referential
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commentary of how many kilobytes (it *was* kilobytes in
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those days) of mail they moved through their systems.
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Fidonet to them was all form and no substance. It was a
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mechanism and not a medium.
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When I asked why the other sysops would care about an echo
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which went out on my dime when it left the net, or went by
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non-Hub routed means within the net, their answer was
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equally amazing. They said that only *they* had the right to
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move mail and only *they* had the right to determine whether
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content was appropriate. In fifteen minutes of insane
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discussion I heard enough proprietary declamations to choke
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a whale. It was "their net" or "my nodes", or "my mail Hub"
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etc. etc. on and on. Another social observation became
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obvious as I looked around the room at the various people
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who were laying claim to dominion over various aspects of
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Fidonet. In every case, whatever titles they'd acquired in
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Fidonet were their highest achievements in life. They were
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variously unemployed, low level government clerks, janitors,
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hotel bell hops - but not one of them in real life had
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either the skills or the education to rise to management.
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But there they were, infesting Fidonet, and like any long
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disfranchised class, they were hell-bent on flexing the only
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power they'd ever acquired in life.
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Mercifully, the resolution to hoof me from Fidonet was
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narrowly defeated. The incident caused me to look at the
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Fidonet elflord structure and I realized that there was a
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stunning overpopulation of similar real-life failures
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occupying elflord positions. It is no small wonder that this
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collection of mutants tried to foist Peefour on what they
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hoped would be a somnolent populace. These cretins needed
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rules because they had no shreds of judgment of their own.
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They needed the lash of policy to inflict their totalist
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revenge on everyone and everything that they should have
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recognized was the only prayer for freedom they ever could
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achieve. A generation of swine, to steal Thompson's phase,
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burrowed like maggots into Fidonet's structure and gave
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viability to every sniveling, whining, social misfit who had
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an ax to grind and a keyboard with which to file a policy
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complaint.
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If you have the right music on, and you squint your eyes
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just a tiny bit to catch the contrail, you can see the
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trajectory from Dodell through Bonine and Peace all the way
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to Satti. A lineage of wild peccaries who took as their
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anthem the sanctity of a policy document and who fiddled
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while Rome was burning. We have Kohl whose pathology is
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devouring Region10 and we have Bob "noted" Satti with all
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the management skills of Euglena; telling us that "they are
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bound by policy." It used to be that humanity was bound by
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common sense and the civilizing influence of justice. That,
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I think, was when there were people with the strength of
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character to make decisions.
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The third rumination concerns my first letter to Fidonews. I
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remember sitting at the computer, filled with trepidation
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about whether I should send it. I feared that Tom Jennings
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would never publish something from a fido serf, particularly
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because the tenor of the letter was to swing large broadaxes
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at a collection of Fido elflords. To my joy and amazement,
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Tom not only published the letter but sent me a kind netmail
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suggesting that the whole network could use my kind of
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irreverence. Tom didn't know it then, but his words were
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like giving milk to a stray kitten.
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a cloak of despair and sycophancy towards the elflords, I
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merely had to look at the netmail responses to my various
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articles. To all of those people who wrote, even the ones
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who wanted to carve out my liver, I thank you. To those
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whose writings in Fidonet I admired most - it is sad that
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most of you are gone, even though there was a consensus
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among you that writing for Fidonews was "proselytizing to
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gas station attendants." I dearly miss the energy and
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literacy that a fair number of people devoted to their
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messages.
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Anyway, those are my flashbacks from an earlier Fidonet era.
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I realize that the last worthy windmill to tilt at is in the
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lack of content of echomail messages. I also know that my
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opinion represents a very tiny minority. It is infinitely
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ironic that in one of Fidonet's echo conferences devoted to
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writing, there are only a couple of people who actually take
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the care to write as opposed to barf back previous messages
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while adding their own minor trail of phlegm to the end.
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I've recently had occasion to read nine doctoral theses of
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people who were recently blessed with the title "PhD" and I
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was appalled that not one of them possessed basic
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communication skills or even knew how to write a coherent
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sentence. It caused me to muse that knowledge without the
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means to use it or convey it is a trivial pursuit. When I
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give business seminars at one of the local high school, I
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give the students a choice of submitting either a ten
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thousand word essay or four paragraphs of cogent and
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original thought. I rarely get students choosing to write
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four paragraphs.
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In a couple of weeks I shall toss the cameras into my
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mid-life crisis car and go on a driving adventure.
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Eventually I'll meet up with a collection of friends who
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convene once a year to embarrass each other about past proud
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assertions that we were going to change the world. For some
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of us, merely surviving in the world is triumph enough.
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We'll talk about the novels we never got around to writing,
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or the fact that our art isn't gracing galleries across the
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country, or the fact that we aren't in politics making some
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sort of difference, or the fact that we gave up acting
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careers for something as pedestrian as wanting to be able to
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pay the rent. As a group, we need to torture ourselves with
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these failures of nerve and spirit. We also want to wish on
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our children the old resolve to go out and make a difference
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in some fashion while suppressing the fear that their
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generation will be riding the downward side of the asymptote
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where dreams and reality are implausible partners.
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I've already written too much. Poor Dallas' lips must be
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horribly bruised and the batteries must be dead on Kohl's
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Speak 'N Spell. I must go Visage, and this has nothing at
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all to do with the fact the car is rumbling ominously with
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tanks full of nitro-methanol, *serious* driving music racked
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up in the dash CD player, and a need to get back out there
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to reset the edge.
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Regards,
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Doc Logger
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Furlang Island,
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South Pacific
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GETTING TECHNICAL
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Hello All.
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We currently have a case of a FTSC Standing Member who has decided to
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become a point instead of staying a node. He is willing to continue
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as member if allowed.
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The problem is that FTA-1001 requires members to be nodes. I don't
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know the background for this requirement, since I was not around when
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the document was originally drafted.
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FTA-1001 is only amendable after public input, so I am asking this on
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behalf of the FTSC: May Standing Members be points as well as nodes?
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Please give your input during the next three weeks, after which I
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will summarize and make a decision based on your input.
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Thank you.
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Odinn
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--- FTSC Administrator 1.0
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* Origin: http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc * e-mail: odinn@goldware.dk
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NOTICES
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Future History
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3 Jul 1998
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FidoNet European Convention (see issue #20 for details).
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14 Sep 1998
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Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
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22 Sep 1998
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First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
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24 Jul 1999
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] or download it from
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IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 anytime Zone 1 ZMH at 300-9600+ V34.
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The FidoNews key is also available on the FidoNews homepage listed
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of this appearance.
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NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
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Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
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InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
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- Ye Editor
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
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WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
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FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
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Echomail [MIA]
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WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Zorch Frezberg
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker
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"FidoNews Editor"
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BBS 1-209-251-7529, 300/1200/2400/9600/V.34/V.90
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more addresses:
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Zorch Frezberg -- 1:205/1701, zorch@repairnet.com
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zorch@qnis.net
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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1:1/23 [1:205/1701] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
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IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X. It
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone
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Coordinators also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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